Re: how to replace Unsafe.objectFieldOffset in jdk 11

[Vitaly Davidovich]

VarHandle does provide suitable (and better) replacements for the various
Unsafe.get/putXXX methods.  But, U.objectFieldOffset() is the only (easy?)
Java way to inspect the layout of a class; e.g. say you apply a hacky
class-hierarchy based cacheline padding to a field, and then want to assert
that it got placed at the expected offset.  I suppose Panama may yield a
better solution here, but I'm not aware of any VarHandle APIs to replicate
this usecase.

On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 10:59 AM Gil Tene  wrote:

> Use VarHandle. It is there and it works. It allows you to replace
> Unsafe.objectFildOffset with a better, safer way to do the same thing you
> would be doing with the information that Unsafe.objectFildOffset
> provides, but without ever giving you the (potentially incorrect and unsafe
> to use) information about the "offset" of a field within an object. It
> allows the manipulation field contents in pretty much any useful way that
> having the offset would allow you to do with Unsafe.getX(object, offset) or
> Unsafe.putX(object, offset), but without providing with unsafe means that
> will break things (like e.g. writing a long to a reference field, or
> overflowing an int with a long write).
>
> On Wednesday, June 19, 2019 at 7:04:26 AM UTC-7, xiaobai andrew wrote:
>>
>> thank for you reply，i look for some api just like  VarHandle, which i can
>> replace Unsafe.objectFildOffset without requires jdk.unsupported .
>> any good idea?
>>
>>
>> Gil Tene  于2019年6月18日周二 下午11:43写道：
>>
>>> Out of curiosity: What do you use Unsafe.objectFieldOffset for that
>>> VarHandle is lacking functionality for?
>>>
>>> It is useful to gather use cases not covered by VarHandle so that we can
>>> propose additional capabilities there (preparing for a world with no Unsafe
>>> in it). Can you share an example of code?
>>>
>>> As to your question: I assume it is Unsafe as a whole you are having
>>> issues with, and not just Unsafe.objectFieldOffset, is that correct? You
>>> can find examples of how to use Unsafe in a post-java-8 world e.g. here:
>>> http://gregluck.com/blog/archives/2017/03/using-sun-misc-unsafe-in-java-9/
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 5:48:14 AM UTC-7, xiaobai andrew wrote:

 i usr Unsafe.objectFieldOffset in jdk 8 ,but when i want to update jdk
 to 11, the idea compile error , it cannot  found the symbol Unsafe.
 i have try to find VarHandle api,but it did not
 support Unsafe.objectFieldOffset

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Re: how to replace Unsafe.objectFieldOffset in jdk 11

[Gil Tene]

Use VarHandle. It is there and it works. It allows you to replace 
Unsafe.objectFildOffset with a better, safer way to do the same thing you 
would be doing with the information that Unsafe.objectFildOffset provides, 
but without ever giving you the (potentially incorrect and unsafe to use) 
information about the "offset" of a field within an object. It allows the 
manipulation field contents in pretty much any useful way that having the 
offset would allow you to do with Unsafe.getX(object, offset) or 
Unsafe.putX(object, offset), but without providing with unsafe means that 
will break things (like e.g. writing a long to a reference field, or 
overflowing an int with a long write).

On Wednesday, June 19, 2019 at 7:04:26 AM UTC-7, xiaobai andrew wrote:
>
> thank for you reply，i look for some api just like  VarHandle, which i can 
> replace Unsafe.objectFildOffset without requires jdk.unsupported .
> any good idea?
>
>
> Gil Tene > 于2019年6月18日周二 下午11:43写道：
>
>> Out of curiosity: What do you use Unsafe.objectFieldOffset for that 
>> VarHandle is lacking functionality for?
>>
>> It is useful to gather use cases not covered by VarHandle so that we can 
>> propose additional capabilities there (preparing for a world with no Unsafe 
>> in it). Can you share an example of code?
>>
>> As to your question: I assume it is Unsafe as a whole you are having 
>> issues with, and not just Unsafe.objectFieldOffset, is that correct? You 
>> can find examples of how to use Unsafe in a post-java-8 world e.g. here: 
>> http://gregluck.com/blog/archives/2017/03/using-sun-misc-unsafe-in-java-9/
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 5:48:14 AM UTC-7, xiaobai andrew wrote:
>>>
>>> i usr Unsafe.objectFieldOffset in jdk 8 ,but when i want to update jdk 
>>> to 11, the idea compile error , it cannot  found the symbol Unsafe.
>>> i have try to find VarHandle api,but it did not 
>>> support Unsafe.objectFieldOffset
>>>
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Re: how to replace Unsafe.objectFieldOffset in jdk 11

[xiaobai andrew]

thank for you reply，i look for some api just like  VarHandle, which i can
replace Unsafe.objectFildOffset without requires jdk.unsupported .
any good idea?


Gil Tene  于2019年6月18日周二 下午11:43写道：

> Out of curiosity: What do you use Unsafe.objectFieldOffset for that
> VarHandle is lacking functionality for?
>
> It is useful to gather use cases not covered by VarHandle so that we can
> propose additional capabilities there (preparing for a world with no Unsafe
> in it). Can you share an example of code?
>
> As to your question: I assume it is Unsafe as a whole you are having
> issues with, and not just Unsafe.objectFieldOffset, is that correct? You
> can find examples of how to use Unsafe in a post-java-8 world e.g. here:
> http://gregluck.com/blog/archives/2017/03/using-sun-misc-unsafe-in-java-9/
>
> On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 5:48:14 AM UTC-7, xiaobai andrew wrote:
>>
>> i usr Unsafe.objectFieldOffset in jdk 8 ,but when i want to update jdk to
>> 11, the idea compile error , it cannot  found the symbol Unsafe.
>> i have try to find VarHandle api,but it did not
>> support Unsafe.objectFieldOffset
>>
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Re: how to replace Unsafe.objectFieldOffset in jdk 11

[Gil Tene]

Out of curiosity: What do you use Unsafe.objectFieldOffset for that 
VarHandle is lacking functionality for?

It is useful to gather use cases not covered by VarHandle so that we can 
propose additional capabilities there (preparing for a world with no Unsafe 
in it). Can you share an example of code?

As to your question: I assume it is Unsafe as a whole you are having issues 
with, and not just Unsafe.objectFieldOffset, is that correct? You can find 
examples of how to use Unsafe in a post-java-8 world e.g. 
here: http://gregluck.com/blog/archives/2017/03/using-sun-misc-unsafe-in-java-9/

On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 5:48:14 AM UTC-7, xiaobai andrew wrote:
>
> i usr Unsafe.objectFieldOffset in jdk 8 ,but when i want to update jdk to 
> 11, the idea compile error , it cannot  found the symbol Unsafe.
> i have try to find VarHandle api,but it did not 
> support Unsafe.objectFieldOffset
>

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how to replace Unsafe.objectFieldOffset in jdk 11

[xiaobai andrew]

i usr Unsafe.objectFieldOffset in jdk 8 ,but when i want to update jdk to 
11, the idea compile error , it cannot  found the symbol Unsafe.
i have try to find VarHandle api,but it did not 
support Unsafe.objectFieldOffset

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