Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo.com Outage and general maintenance - 10/20/2012 16:00 UTC for 8 hours.

2012-10-25 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Hello Nnaemeka. MeeGo is alive and continues currently under the Mer
project: http://www.merproject.org/ and is used by companies like
Jolla: https://twitter.com/JollaMobile

Also, the infrastructure at MeeGo.com is in good use for example in
the form of the public OBS: https://build.pub.meego.com/

-Timo

2012/10/25 Nnaemeka David nnaemeka.da...@gmail.com:
 Hello. Please, forgive me if I transgress. But i heard the meego
 development has been discontinued so i decided to look elsewhere. is
 this true?
 thaks

 On 10/18/12, adam.gretzin...@linux.intel.com
 adam.gretzin...@linux.intel.com wrote:

 MeeGo General Backend Maintenance Announcement for 10/20/2012 at 16:00 UTC

 Some general maintenance activities will be taking place on the
 MeeGo.com and MeeGo related sites on Saturday, October 20, 2012 at 16:00
 UTC.  (Saturday October, 20, 2012 09:00 PDT) for a duration of 8 hours.

 During this time multiple Patching, Firmware updates, Virtual Machine
 Migrations will be in progress. While the window is 8 hours long most
 services will be interrupted once or twice.

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 Adam Gretzinger
 adam.r.gretzin...@intel.com
 adam.gretzin...@linux.intel.com
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Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-05 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/10/5 Jeremiah Foster jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com:
 Distrowatch are server and dektop disties. The special thing in MeeGo was
 that
 the focus was on emerging devices.

 And how exactly did it do that? By using Connman? By using an embedded
 Linux kernel? Btrfs? By being small? What exactly makes MeeGo different
 from other desktop distros? Or was it just a little bit of marketing?

I agree with Jeremiah here. MeeGo really was a lot more pain to get
slimmed down with its actually desktop distro legacy and for example
package dependencies than with Debian. Maemo was the actual embedded
OS, but MeeGo never got to reach it.

That said, I do believe there is a lot of room and need for Mer, and
potentially Tizen (hopefully fully usable by Mer and others) when it
actually materializes, simply because it tries to continue MeeGo as is
but fixing the problems mostly everyone agrees with - MeeGo was not
lean core at any point, and the community, decision and communication
aspects sucked in many ways. Doing so gets the existing MeeGo
community people to continue, while any other one choice like Debian
(advertised by me among else), openSUSE (advertised by Jon among
else), Yocto or other would not get all the same people on-board. With
individuals it can be about simple things like familiriaty with tools,
and OBS does rock. The important thing is to do something that matters
(to you), and if possible do it in a way that everyone can benefit.

The lesson with MeeGo here should be not to put all eggs into one
basket. I'm a multi-distro person myself, and see strong value in
distro-previously-called-MeeGo, Ubuntu, Yocto etc. in addition to
Debian which I think rules the most broadly in its operation and
scope.

-Timo
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Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread Timo Jyrinki
ma, 2011-10-03 kello 19:09 +0100, Si Howard kirjoitti:
 I'm for that! Wasn't the Mer project part of the Maemo 5.0 porting to
 the Nokia N8X0 platform?

That's one way of putting it, but it was indeed about reconstructing
Maemo so that it worked as a whole distribution. That then made possible
to try to get newer Maemo components working on older tablets purely as
a community effort.

So more like Maemo 5.0 porting to the Nokia N8X0 platform was a part of
the Mer project, not the other way around :)

-Timo


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Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] invitation... and a second one

2011-10-03 Thread Timo Jyrinki
(cc:ing to meego-dev as well since Jos originally wanted to post there,
too)

to, 2011-09-29 kello 21:40 +0200, Jos Poortvliet kirjoitti:
 Dear MeeGo friends!
 
 Many people in your community wonder where to go since the Tizen 
 announcement. At a MeeGo meet in Tampere, many expressed concerns: can 
 we contribute to Tizen? How long will it last *this time*? How will 
 Samsung behave? I know many of you are concerned about loosing the great 
 community you've build.

Thanks Jos for the invitation!

I have now written another invitation from Debian perspective and an
overview of the situation from my point of view at:

http://losca.blogspot.com/2011/10/from-meego-to-tizen-debian.html

In brief: do not fall in agony, there is a wide range of communities out
there. Just answer the Aaron Seigo's question about thinking about
evaluating own motives in contributing to for example MeeGo. Then choose
the communities (plural) you want to work in! Obviously it could be the
future Tizen community as well. But it could be openSUSE, Debian, Qt
project, KDE project, Mer, or any number of other possibilities. All of
them have some similarities with what MeeGo was.

-Timo


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Re: [MeeGo-dev] cross-armv7l-gcc, cross-armv5tel-gcc are not installable

2010-08-03 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/6/28 Jan-Simon Möller jsmoel...@linuxfoundation.org:
 me...@[meego-netbook-sdk]::~$ /opt/cross/bin/armv7l-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc
 -c test.c as: unrecognized option '-meabi=5'

 me...@[meego-netbook-sdk]::~$ /opt/cross/bin/armv7l-meego-linux-gnueabi-gcc
 -print-prog-name=as as

 ok, what happens if you do AS=/opt/cross/bin/armv7l-meego-linux-gnueabi-as
 LD=/opt/cross/bin/armv7l-meego-linux-gnueabi-ld  gcc ..

I have identical output for both commands also when using those extra
variables. And tested both when using cross-armv7-* packages from 1.0
and trunk in Ubuntu 10.04 i386 chroot (helped with alien) and when
installing those packages inside MeeGo SDK chroot with zypper and
trying to compile after that. Just trying hello world. The host system
itself is 64-bit Ubuntu.

 This one is worth a bugreport. Please assign it to me -
 jsmoel...@linuxfoundation.org.

Was this filed? Cannot find in bugs.meego.com but maybe I just don't
what to search for.

-Timo
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Re: [MeeGo-dev] how to start developing on MeeGo?

2010-04-29 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/4/29 David Greaves da...@dgreaves.com:
  http://wiki.meego.com/Packaging/Deb_conversion_example

 More to follow - we'd appreciate constructive feedback both from those
 knowledgeable about rpms and those trying to gain that knowledge.

Yes, feedback and changes welcome. Like I noted on the discussion
page, I learned rpm:s myself during the writing of the page, so
definitely there is room for improvement and expansion.

-Timo
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