[MeeGo-dev] MSSF manifests in RPM

2011-05-02 Thread Alberto Mardegan

Hi all,
  what is the current state of MSSF manifest files in MeeGo? In Maemo 
Harmattan, they are located under the debian/ directory and there are special 
build rules to add the to the package.


What about RPMs? I had a look at the rpm repository [0] (part of the MSSF) and 
it seems that there is a %mssf directive one can specify in the .spec files, 
but I cannot find any documentation or examples for it.


Last but not last, did MSSF v2 make its way into MeeGo 1.2?

Ciao,
  Alberto

[0] https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-platform-security/rpm

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Re: [MeeGo-dev] MSSF manifests in RPM

2011-05-02 Thread Arjan van de Ven

On 5/2/2011 5:39 AM, Alberto Mardegan wrote:

Hi all,
  what is the current state of MSSF manifest files in MeeGo?


the current state is that MSSF is not part of, or integrated into, 
MeeGo... and won't be.


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Re: [MeeGo-dev] MSSF manifests in RPM

2011-05-02 Thread Alberto Mardegan

(moving thread to meego-architecture)

On 05/02/2011 04:53 PM, Arjan van de Ven wrote:

On 5/2/2011 5:39 AM, Alberto Mardegan wrote:

Hi all,
what is the current state of MSSF manifest files in MeeGo?


the current state is that MSSF is not part of, or integrated into, MeeGo... and
won't be.


Mmm... but I think we all agree that a security framework is needed. What will 
it be, then?


In your mail from March 7th, you announced that the long term focus for the 
MeeGo security would be end-user privacy. To me, that also means having the 
means for a process which owns some of the user data to establish the identity 
of another process which requests access to the said data. IMHO, this is 
something that MSSF is doing very well in Harmattan, so I hope that this 
possibility will also come to MeeGo.


Without this, you basically cannot give different access rights to applications 
which are coming from a trusted origin (such as the device manufacturer or an 
approved application store) and applications coming from the community.


Ciao,
  Alberto

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Re: [MeeGo-dev] MSSF manifests in RPM

2011-05-02 Thread Ryan Ware
On 5/2/11 7:12 AM, Alberto Mardegan ma...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:

(moving thread to meego-architecture)

On 05/02/2011 04:53 PM, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
 On 5/2/2011 5:39 AM, Alberto Mardegan wrote:
 Hi all,
 what is the current state of MSSF manifest files in MeeGo?

 the current state is that MSSF is not part of, or integrated into,
MeeGo... and
 won't be.

To be explicit, portions of MSSF were incorporated into the
devel:security:mssf sandbox in OBS.  However, a complete solution never
made it into MeeGo and MeeGo will not be using MSSF as a future solution.
We will be using different Linux technologies to support many of the same
security goals.

Mmm... but I think we all agree that a security framework is needed. What
will 
it be, then?

We will have a broader security framework.  There have been discussions on
different aspects of it on the meego-security-discussion mail list.  A
final framework should be published by the end of May.

In your mail from March 7th, you announced that the long term focus for
the 
MeeGo security would be end-user privacy. To me, that also means having
the 
means for a process which owns some of the user data to establish the
identity 
of another process which requests access to the said data. IMHO, this is
something that MSSF is doing very well in Harmattan, so I hope that this
possibility will also come to MeeGo.

Having this ability is not unique to MSSF.  There are other Linux
technologies that are applicable to this.

Without this, you basically cannot give different access rights to
applications 
which are coming from a trusted origin (such as the device manufacturer
or an 
approved application store) and applications coming from the community.

As I said above, there are other Linux technologies to do this.  For
example, Android does this via uid/gid separation.  I think that is
inadequate in and of itself, but am using it simply to illustrate the
point.  

Ryan

Ciao,
   Alberto

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