Re: [Meego-handset] Naming of Community Edition - community discussion
On 10/11/2011 07:40 PM, Foster, Dawn M wrote: On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Ruediger Gad wrote: Hi, On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:13:32 -0700 Quim Gilquim@nokia.com wrote: On 10/10/2011 11:59 PM, ext Carsten Munk wrote: We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas on what to call the Community Edition in the future. Mermate A good mate of Mer. Sounds like mermaid and you can even have one as logo if you wish. Mer design traditionally had underwater references. +1 I think Mermate is pretty cool. Also the logo idea is great imho. Why not go the whole way and call it Mermaid? Mer vs. Meer is not distinct enough in my opinion and could be easily confused. If the double 'e' needs to be kept one could think about Meermate or even Meermaid or is the sounding still too close to mere? I like the variants of Mermaid. I'd avoid Mermaid itself because you want something unique that doesn't get lost in Google amongst Little Mermaid discussions. You want people to be able to find it easily in a search. My favorite is Quim's original Mermate, but with Meermate as close second. Naming is hard :) Yep, ...What do you think about Mermade - Jeremias Dawn ___ MeeGo-handset mailing list MeeGo-handset@lists.meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-handset -- Diplom Inf. (FH) Jeremias Bosch Junior Project Manager Darmstadt basysKom GmbH Robert-Bosch-Str. 7 | 64293 Darmstadt | Germany Tel: +49 6151 870589-107 | Fax: -736 | jeremias.bo...@basyskom.de | www.basyskom.de Handelsregister: Darmstadt HRB 9352 Geschaeftsfuehrung: Eva Brucherseifer Diese E-Mail enthaelt vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschuetzte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese E-Mail irrtuemlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und loeschen Sie diese Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser Mail ist nicht gestattet. This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. ___ MeeGo-handset mailing list MeeGo-handset@lists.meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-handset
Re: [Meego-handset] [N900] Fennec pre-starting
Hi
i do NOT recommend to do prestarting at all. It leads to all kind of
trouble and issues.
The issues
* device start taking longer,
* constant memory consumption ending in question
* how to avoid that fennec shows ui when prestarting
* what happens when user actually close fennec.
* constant usetime / cpu usage from fennec
We tried to adjust an extension we made once to work on meego. This
extension was able to handle all this -
but we found that its not that simple with avoiding relations to
libmeegotouch and so we did not
follow this path.
Again, i recommend you to NOT do prestarting.
Jeremias
On 04/20/2011 09:16 AM, vesa-matti.hartikai...@nokia.com wrote:
Hi,
Carsten, was this with old fennec?
Jeremias, is this still possible with new (current) fennec? Also, do we have
enough memory in N900 to prestart fennec or are will the device be running low
on memory if we do so? Any other issues in prestarting?
BR,
Vesku
On 20.4.2011, at 9:49, ext Carsten Munk wrote:
Hi,
I had an item on my todo to describe how to do faststart/prestarting
in Fennec. My old package is broken so can't just as easily make a
patch but here's steps for someone to implement:
Add to mozconfig.(x86, arm):
ac_add_options --enable-faststart
Add file fennec-faststart.desktop to package:
[Desktop Entry]
Name=Fennec faststart
Exec=/usr/bin/fennec -faststart-hidden
Terminal=False
Type=Application
In %install phase, SOURCE6 should be whatever SOURCEX
fennec-faststart.desktop is.
mkdir -p %{buildroot}/etc/xdg/autostart
cp %{SOURCE6} %{buildroot}/etc/xdg/autostart/fennec-faststart.desktop
and then in %files add:
/etc/xdg/autostart/fennec-faststart.desktop
.. and that's prestarting of Fennec, back in the version I had.
/Carsten
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Re: [Meego-handset] [N900] Fennec pre-starting
On 04/20/2011 10:48 AM, jukka.ekl...@nokia.com wrote:
Hi,
Is there still work to be done regarding bug,
https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8664?
From a user point of view the issue is not only startup time, but the
delay between UI appearing and being able to actually input URL. The
whole process still takes way too much time, and led me to not demoing
Fennec in MeeGo Summit for example even though I really wanted since
there has been good progress lately.
Jukka
Hi,
no even on much much more powerful devices startup takes still up to 10
seconds in worstcase. Its a systematical issue. Within android firefox
bestcase startup time is around 3-5 seconds iirc.
- Jeremias
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*Subject:* Re: [Meego-handset] [N900] Fennec pre-starting
Hi
i do NOT recommend to do prestarting at all. It leads to all kind of
trouble and issues.
The issues
* device start taking longer,
* constant memory consumption ending in question
* how to avoid that fennec shows ui when prestarting
* what happens when user actually close fennec.
* constant usetime / cpu usage from fennec
We tried to adjust an extension we made once to work on meego. This
extension was able to handle all this -
but we found that its not that simple with avoiding relations to
libmeegotouch and so we did not
follow this path.
Again, i recommend you to NOT do prestarting.
Jeremias
On 04/20/2011 09:16 AM, vesa-matti.hartikai...@nokia.com
mailto:vesa-matti.hartikai...@nokia.com wrote:
Hi,
Carsten, was this with old fennec?
Jeremias, is this still possible with new (current) fennec? Also, do we have enough memory in N900 to prestart fennec or are will the device be running low on memory if we do so? Any other issues in prestarting?
BR,
Vesku
On 20.4.2011, at 9:49, ext Carsten Munk wrote:
Hi,
I had an item on my todo to describe how to do faststart/prestarting
in Fennec. My old package is broken so can't just as easily make a
patch but here's steps for someone to implement:
Add to mozconfig.(x86, arm):
ac_add_options --enable-faststart
Add file fennec-faststart.desktop to package:
[Desktop Entry]
Name=Fennec faststart
Exec=/usr/bin/fennec -faststart-hidden
Terminal=False
Type=Application
In %install phase, SOURCE6 should be whatever SOURCEX
fennec-faststart.desktop is.
mkdir -p %{buildroot}/etc/xdg/autostart
cp %{SOURCE6} %{buildroot}/etc/xdg/autostart/fennec-faststart.desktop
and then in %files add:
/etc/xdg/autostart/fennec-faststart.desktop
.. and that's prestarting of Fennec, back in the version I had.
/Carsten
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Re: [Meego-handset] [N900] Fennec pre-starting
Hi I would be really excited to have improvements there. There was a huge team working on startup improvement for some time but without real success. So if you get something feel welcome to contact. Jeremias Am 20.04.2011 19:42, schrieb casey.schauf...@nokia.com: An idea with merit. I want to see if I can get to a point where I can talk about the issues coherently first. From: ext Robert Kaiser [ka...@kairo.at] Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 10:21 AM To: Schaufler Casey (Nokia-SD/SiliconValley) Cc: jeremias.bo...@basyskom.de; Eklund Jukka (Nokia-SD/Tampere); meego-handset@lists.meego.com; nokia_browser...@basyskom.de Subject: Re: [Meego-handset] [N900] Fennec pre-starting casey.schauf...@nokia.com schrieb: I am working on getting some performance improvement in fennec, especially on startup. It's honking big, massively generalized, and a royal pain to build. There is not likely to be a quick fix. Are you in some form of contact with our mobile team at Mozilla, i.e. the Fennec upstream? I know that some work went into improving general Firefox and esp. Fennec startup recently, though Mike Hommey, who did some startup improvement work, told me that on the N900, startup is pretty much CPU-bound (while on desktop I/O plays a large role). Perhaps on working together, there might be a chance of helping each other and make Fennec faster to launch on all devices. :) Robert Kaiser ___ MeeGo-handset mailing list MeeGo-handset@lists.meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-handset
