Re: [MBZ] Roof Racks for 124?
Has anyone bought any type of roof rack? Experiences, please. Trailer? -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] AC Conversion??
That's a pretty normal Thing for autofrost etc. I tried that on one car and it froze me out...for a week when it all leaked out.I then switched it to r134 and without any new seals etc, it went over a year before needing to be topped off with a can of 134. --Robert Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well for instance, the 420 was recharged twice with autofrost, and after about a month is gets to where it doesnt cool very well. Its still a virgin r12 system and has not beeen converted to 134 Jim Cathey wrote: Everytime I have used the blends, be it hydrocarbon, or the latest autofrost. They seem to work ok at first but not for long, I think part of it seems to leak off faster, where a charge of 134 doesnt. How long is 'long'? Most of my R12 stable, which has lost the R12 due to slow leaks, now leaks at a rate that requires an annual recharge. I don't know how long it'd last in a pristine system. Fortunately it's only $7 worth of juice, in my case. And I have all the tools. It doesn't take too long. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Roof Racks for 124?
Well, mine's a wagon, but I have Yakima clamps and bars that attach to the roof rack; I absolutely love them! I picked up my clamps and canoe attachments from these folks: www.rackattack.com Last weekend I had the 17' canoe on the roof and three bikes on the hitch-mount bike rack. We looked like real rugged adventure thrill seekers--fooled everyone. On 7/22/06, John Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am going to take a vacation with my wife and newly born son and parents in law. Needless to say, we won't all fit in the 300D with carriages, suitcases etc. Has anyone bought any type of roof rack? Experiences, please. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (216k) '84 300D (214k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] Bye bye Sonics
Bob Rentfro wrote: Sowhat are they going to be called? The Oklahoma City Super Sonics...that won't fit on a jersey you'd be able to sell to Okie kids. How 'bout the Okie Dokies? Or The Team That's (from) OK? Since they already have the Sooners, these clowns could be the Laters The SoonerSonics. ;)
Re: [MBZ] Roof Racks for 124?
John Peterson wrote: OK, so there is a Thule that fits the Mercedes? I thought for sure I was going to need to buy a dealer part. Both Thule and Yakima make racks that will fit. It's just a matter of ordering the right pieces. Both are high-quality products, so which to buy is mostly a matter of preference.
Re: [MBZ] Bye bye Sonics
Prairie Dogs? Cyclones? Ok City Natives. On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 01:22:10 -0500, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Rentfro wrote: Sowhat are they going to be called? The Oklahoma City Super Sonics...that won't fit on a jersey you'd be able to sell to Okie kids. How 'bout the Okie Dokies? Or The Team That's (from) OK? Since they already have the Sooners, these clowns could be the Laters The SoonerSonics. ;) -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] F1 tracks
As I said...
Re: [MBZ] Bye bye Sonics
Okisonics? Okiesonics? Okasonics? Oklasonics? Oklacitics? Oklahomics? - Original Message - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 3:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bye bye Sonics Prairie Dogs? Cyclones? Ok City Natives. On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 01:22:10 -0500, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Rentfro wrote: Sowhat are they going to be called? The Oklahoma City Super Sonics...that won't fit on a jersey you'd be able to sell to Okie kids. How 'bout the Okie Dokies? Or The Team That's (from) OK? Since they already have the Sooners, these clowns could be the Laters The SoonerSonics. ;) -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006
Re: [MBZ] Bye bye Sonics
Maybe it's a moot point. I checked out the NBA web site and they said the team wouldn't be moving. Barry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of archer Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 1:08 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bye bye Sonics Okisonics? Okiesonics? Okasonics? Oklasonics? Oklacitics? Oklahomics? - Original Message - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 3:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bye bye Sonics Prairie Dogs? Cyclones? Ok City Natives. On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 01:22:10 -0500, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Rentfro wrote: Sowhat are they going to be called? The Oklahoma City Super Sonics...that won't fit on a jersey you'd be able to sell to Okie kids. How 'bout the Okie Dokies? Or The Team That's (from) OK? Since they already have the Sooners, these clowns could be the Laters The SoonerSonics. ;)
Re: [MBZ] FIAT vs Ferrari vs Schumacher
Hello All, Ever since I was 13 or 14 I've been crazy for F1 - I read the all the books and magazines about the sport, followed the drivers, watched the races and taped them (I have 95% of them going back to 84 or so) so I could watch them again. I loved anything and everything about F1 but I've become less than enthralled with F1 over the last 10 years - probably since Senna's death - and all the technological advances have changed the driving greatly. I miss the days when they had to use one hand to shift and the other to steer for instance. I have video of Senna around Monaco shifting and steering on his way to a pole position - amazing stuff. And the start used to be an amazing experience if sight and sound - now, they never spin their tires (even without traction control so they claim) and the sound of an engine at 18000 rpm is more like an electric motor than a gas engine. Also - the grooved tires, reduced track and all those crazy aerodynamic aids sticking out everywhere leave me wanting the old days. If they really want to slow the cars down all they have to do is limit the bodywork behind the driver -- they;d lose traction and *have* to slow down. Then we could go back to some of the leading edge technology everyone (but me) wants so badly without killing a bunch of drivers. I've started watching Champ Cars Indy cars when they run on road courses - (I still can;t stand ovals -- left turn, left turn, left turn, and on and on and on) seeing them running those wide slicks with the driver shifting - like sports cars are supposed to shift - oh, well - I;m just another old fart wishing for the good old days. I wish everyone a nice Sunday - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] FIAT vs Ferrari vs Schumacher That's the other thing I think is superior about F1. VERY FEW if any of the tracks are flat! Lots of elevation changes, blind corners and off camber stuff to deal with. Not some goofy oval that evryone drives around and around and the last one to get dizzy wins. Jeff Zedic Toronto ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006
Re: [MBZ] FIAT vs Ferrari vs Schumacher
LarryT wrote: Hello All, Ever since I was 13 or 14 I've been crazy for F1 - I read the all the books and magazines about the sport, I was a fan via the pages of RoadTrack. Every month, there would be multipage write-ups of each race, usually written by Innes Ireland or Rob Walker. In the early 1990s, they dropped this excellent coverage and I dropped my subscription. Also, like you, I quit caring after Senna's death, and the lawsuits, criminal charges, etc. Fully automating the initial drag race to turn one made it a contest of programmers, not drivers, and the difficulty of passing made the races much less interesting to watch than IRL, CART, or NASCAR. I wish I had a DVD collection of the old CAN-AM series from the days of Dennis Hume, and F1 races from the days before wings. I still have this matchbox car, got it new when I was four years old (but mine looks like crap in comparison): http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120010331227
[MBZ] Green Tech
July 23, 2006 Green Tech Grease Is the Word: Fill It Up With Fry Oil By JIM NORMAN ON a recent return trip from Massachusetts to my home in New Jersey, a distance of 160 miles, I burned a total of two cups of diesel fuel in my 2001 Volkswagen Jetta TDI. Since that would indicate fuel economy of more than 600 miles per gallon, something didn’t quite compute. The missing part of the equation was this: I was returning from Easthampton, Mass., where Daryl Beck, a mechanic well versed in such matters, had just installed a secondary fuel system in my car. The main fuel I used on the drive home was not diesel, which the Jetta was designed to burn, but straight vegetable oil. I used diesel fuel for only the first 10 miles of the trip. After that, the diesel gauge stayed right where it was while the VW sped happily along on soybean oil — the same stuff that restaurants use for deep frying and salad dressing. I used less than three gallons of oil for the final 150 miles of my trip home, which calculates out to more than 50 miles per gallon. Not bad. The conversion kit that Mr. Beck installed was produced by Greasecar, a manufacturer of vegetable fuel units for diesel cars; gasoline engines cannot be converted to burn vegetable oil. The kit cost about $900, including an optional temperature gauge and audible warning signal, and another $1,000 for the installation, which takes an experienced mechanic about seven hours. Now, after more than 2,000 miles on veggie oil, there seem to be few disadvantages to the transformation. My car seems to get slightly better mileage, it seems to run a little more quietly and it has just as much zip as it does on diesel. According to test results I’ve seen, vegetable oil burns somewhat cleaner in most categories than diesel fuel, and emits absolutely no sulfur. What a veggie car does emit is a smell faintly redolent of the kind of oil being burned — or, in the case of used oil, the scent of whatever it might have cooked previously. Vegetable oil, of course, is a renewable resource that emits no more carbon dioxide than next year’s crop will absorb and requires no drilling for soybeans in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge or anywhere else. The environmentally aware will give you even more points in the game of green for using oil previously used for cooking. You’ll get no points, though, from the federal Environmental Protection Agency, which recently issued a statement stating flatly that using vegetable oil as fuel is a violation of the Clean Air Act and that modifying a car for vegetable oil subjects the owner to a $2,750 fine. [Page 2.] Justin Carven, the founder and owner of Greasecar, says his company has started the process of qualifying his conversion kit for E.P.A. certification. Going veggie is not the gas-and-go type of driving Americans are accustomed to. At discount stores like Costco or Sam’s Club, soybean oil costs about $13 for a 35-pound “cubie,” a squarish jug that holds about 4½ gallons. That makes it a few cents less per gallon than the current price of diesel fuel. It’s possible to pay less — or nothing at all. I have also collected 20 cubies of waste oil, just for the asking, from various restaurants and from a generous fellow greaser with an excess of oil. Now that I have my filtration station up and running in a corner of my garage, even visits to the local big-box store will be few and far between. There are a few things I must be attentive to: I have to remember to purge my fuel lines of vegetable oil and switch back to diesel a few minutes before ending a trip. If I forget this on a cold night, the oil could congeal and make starting the next morning impossible without the aid of a hair dryer. I have to remember to use the purge function on my dash-mounted fuel selection switch for no more than 20 seconds or so. If I leave it in purge position, it can allow diesel fuel to flow back into the vegetable oil tank and overfill it until it flows through the air vent, a mess I would rather not experience. Add a few factors to the category of minor inconvenience that accompanies my energy-independence euphoria: I have to carry a spare vegetable oil filter for that inevitable moment when the original says it has had enough. I also have a filter wrench and a pair of oven gloves to let me change filters while the engine is still hot. And I mustn’t forget the turkey baster: that’s to fill the new filter with vegetable oil from the tank, so I don’t introduce an air bubble into the system, causing the engine to stall. My trunk is a little — no, a lot — less spacious than it used to be, because of the spare cubie of oil I carry, along with a big funnel that lets me fill the tank without spills. The spare tire also takes up space inside the trunk now; the veggie oil tank occupies the well that used to contain the spare. Notwithstanding the inconveniences, my wife, Ginger, is as
Re: [MBZ] FIAT vs Ferrari vs Schumacher
Larry, I agree that they REALLY need to do something to improve F1. Mainly, we eed more actual RACING!! The way it is now with the strategy being all about pit stops is crapMany times I've seen the top 10 positions separated by 1.5-2 seconds in qualifying.ok, so why so little overtaking then??? Max Mosley of the FIA is looking to make changes to the formula and limit aero packages Not sure about the shifting thoughthey've had the paddle boxes for ages now, so the gearshift would be a real throwback. I'd like full slicks, less downforce but all the electronics they want..but just give us some racing! Maybe they should go back to having no pit stops.They did it before Jeff Zedic Toronto
[MBZ] I put the enterprise back on the road last night
Finished up the fuel tank swap. When the old tank was out and dry, it sounded like a pound of rust junk sliding back and forth. New tank in, discovered the return line was leaking bad. The part was less than $5 from rust, but spent 38 having it overnighted. That was after spending a couple of hours trying to pull a used one off another car. Good chance it would have leaked anyway. Then charged the AC back up and headed to town to fill her up. Man that car drives nice. The warp drive is working excellent now that the dilithium crystals are properly aligned. Getting ready to head out the door to drive it to work today. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] eBay interpretive photography award of all time
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Re: [MBZ] eBay interpretive photography award of all time
Oh my. He could have at least cropped out the aftermarket toggle switch on the left side of the photo. On 7/23/06, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1984-DODGE-RAM-50-TURBO-DIESEL-POSSIBLE-BIODI ESEL-RUNS_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6783QQihZ018QQitemZ280010412718QQrdZ1 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. BIODIESEL -- no oil war required. 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
Re: [MBZ] F1, CART, Safety, etc (Sorry - kinda long) No Mercedes Content
Hi Mitch Jeff (and others), Yep, I remember well those *great* race reports by Ireland and Walker in RT - and I still have my collection going back to 65 or so. When Senna died I believe they over-reacted and started making lots of changes so they looked like they were doing *something*, While the increased height of the cockpit sides was an effort to prevent future accidents like the one killed Senna when the front a-arm and wheel hit him in the head - but IMHO, that was an unusual kind of incident that's unlikely to happen again. And if it's something common how about something that *really* protects the driver? It was a terrible weekend with another driver killed also and I fear people get used to playing computer racing games and begin to think the real thing can be bloodless - ain't gonna happen - no matter what they do the cars will go faster and the danger will go up. And it will always be dangerous. The dangers are going to be present - drivers with enormous ego's fight to win - and when that happens in *any* sport you create danger - whether it's bicycling or soccer. Each year they mandate changes to reduce speed (especially cornering speed) but each year the lap times go down although perhaps it could be argued they'd have gone even faster without the changes. As I mentioned, remove the bodywork wings behind the driver and cornering speed *will* go down dramatically - one cynic said they'd never do that because it would reduce advertising space. Also, the problem of difficult passing was mentioned and the comment about 1.5-2 sec seperating the 1st 10 positions - *that* is *exactly* why it's so tough to pass - all (most) of the cars are so very nearly equal dictating the pitstop become the only way to pass! I think the *electronic aids* and downforce created by all the wings, winglets, barge boards, etc is what help make the cars equal and causes the drivers ability to be masked by the electronic aids. For instance - just assume launch control for the start is legal (can't remember if it is or not as it seems to have changed) then one driver who is an *ace* at hitting the green light *perfectly*, slips the clutch *perfectly*, spins the wheels the *perfect* amount (Lauda said 5' was the perfect amount) and controls the accelerator *perfectly* so he makes a great start 99% of the time - then there's a guy next to him on the 2nd row who just cannot get the hang of the start - like Michael Andretti when he was with McLaren - without electronic controls the *perfect* driver would shoot ahead leaving the other guy behind - but with electronic launch control they *both* will have perfect starts! Not much competition there - except between the programmers as someone mentioned - which makes all the electronic aids something that makes all drivers equal (to a great extent) and reduces the competition to pitstop tests. You'll note the pitstops are competitive because it's a competition between 2 groups of *people* not computer programs. The thing they did that truly helped to keep drivers healthy was to mandate the HANS device. But when it comes to the cars I believe the rules should be locked in for 4 or 5 years at a time - and *that's* what will generate competition as the designers create cars that have a real advantage over the others. Then the cars will reflect the different abilities of their designers and drivers which will make some cars faster than others - and we'll see competition and passing once again. The fewer rules the better. That's where true innovation will surface and bring advances in technology to the sport once again. While I enjoy watching CART racing on road course, they lack any really great courses - well, Laguna Seca qualifies as a great circuit - but most of the road courses look like airport tracks - dead level with no elevation changes - and that was one thing F1 had going for it - the glitz of romantic circuits - with only Monaco left as Spa gets modified into mediocrity and the other great circuits get safety engineered to death. I still wish the old Nurburgring circuit had not been removed from the season - but the 14 miles of track made it impossible to get help to a driver at all locations. While I would never want to see a driver hurt, the driver must realize they have to slow down when conditions dictate - where as it is now, the driver is going to go as fast as possible without regard to safety IMHO and look to track devices such as used tires, gravel pits, etc to prevent an injury. And for the F1 driver, anything less makes him a loser. But if you I, for example, were on a mountain road with a 3000' drop on one side we'd slow to a speed that made it clear we wouldn't fly (literally) off into empty space where a racing driver in todays ultra competitive formula would drive at 10/10ths regardless if there was a run-off or a 3000' drop! When all cars are equal the
[MBZ] somebody looking for a Diesel Dually ebay item no affiliation
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1997-Ford-F350-Dually-crew-cab-diesel-1to n_W0QQitemZ120010223583QQihZ002QQcategoryZ39416QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Ebay Item # 120010223583 Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me.
[MBZ] 1967 200D on ebay Item # 300010440532 (car is in Wichita no affiliation)
I can't imagine anyone bidding this much for this car. But I guess if you really want a fintail. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-200D-Diesel_W0QQitemZ30001044053 2QQihZ020QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 129K
Re: [MBZ] I put the enterprise back on the road last night
In a message dated 7/23/2006 10:05:24 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Getting ready to head out the door to drive it to work today Kaleb, WARP SPEED, aye aye, Captain Have fun Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 143 K miles
