Re: [MBZ] Router and Firewall

2007-03-18 Thread LarryT

Thanks Tom!!
  I'll drop my Firewall - what about AV?

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Re: [MBZ] Rebuild (was OM 617 badly sick)

2007-03-18 Thread Hans Neureiter

I pretty much nailed it down to what Kaleb suggests: Bad #1 rod
bearing, collapsed #1 rings. It all supports the symptoms: Hammering
at 1/2 RPM, blue smoke out the tail pipe and oil coming out around #1
prechamber.

On 3/17/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hans,  Did you pull the sump pan to verify there is a bad rod?

The prechamber ball is a good suggestion also, but in my experience, in
that case there is variation in the knocking as the ball bounces around and
it sounds more from the head than from the crank area.

At 12:35 AM 3/17/2007, you wrote:
Thanks for all the input, fellows.
Once I have the motor on the ground, I will investigate and report.
Thanks again,
On 3/15/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I would plan on pistons and sleeves -- there is absolutely no chance
  that they are good.  Crank probably only needs polishing, but if you
  have had oil starvation, have it magnifluxed for cracks, they CAN break
  (not fun).
 
  If the bearing has spun, the block is toast.
 
  Peter
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Router and Firewall

2007-03-18 Thread Tom Hargrave
You've got to have anti-virus!

Thanks,
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Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 6:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Router and Firewall

Thanks Tom!!
   I'll drop my Firewall - what about AV?

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Re: [MBZ] Router and Firewall

2007-03-18 Thread Levi Smith

Not with Linux...

On 3/18/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


You've got to have anti-virus!

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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-Original Message-
From: LarryT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 6:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Router and Firewall

Thanks Tom!!
   I'll drop my Firewall - what about AV?

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Re: [MBZ] Router and Firewall

2007-03-18 Thread Tom Hargrave
Viruses attack Windows only because Windows is 80% of the installed base.
It's not worth the effort to write viruses for the rest (Linux  Apple)
because the installed base is too small to spread effectively. If Linux 
Windows were to swap places, or if Linux grows to more than 30% of the
installed base, then Linux will have a very serious virus issue.


Major organizations like UAB who are running Linux are experiencing serious
issues now. Their Novel server farm is under constant attack  they have
hade to resort to double firewalls, IP filtering and very expensive software
to keep the bad guys out. Clients running Windows Server 2003 just need a
firewall and good anti-virus software.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

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Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 8:30 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Router and Firewall

Not with Linux...

On 3/18/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You've got to have anti-virus!

 Thanks,
 Tom Hargrave
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 256-656-1924


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 Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 6:20 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: Router and Firewall

 Thanks Tom!!
I'll drop my Firewall - what about AV?

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Re: [MBZ] Rebuild (was OM 617 badly sick)vacuum pump again

2007-03-18 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 3/17/2007 5:11:59 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I pretty  much nailed it down to what Kaleb suggests: Bad #1 rod
bearing, collapsed  #1 rings. It all supports the symptoms: Hammering
at 1/2 RPM, blue smoke  out the tail pipe and oil coming out around  #1
prechamber.



ONE last check you could do.  Remove the line from the vacuum pump to  the 
intake and check for copious amounts of oil being pumped into the intake  
manifold from a damaged vacuum pump.  I know you said it still makes vacuum  
but it 
could still be your problem.  the oil would pre ignite and give  off with a 
knocking sound and blue smoke.  
 
Good luck,  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 264 K miles 
98 ML 320, 147 K  miles




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Re: [MBZ] Router and Firewall

2007-03-18 Thread Loren Faeth
That's what everybody with a mac said until 1993 or 4.  Linux viruses are 
already here.  If linux does not need av software, how come there are 
commercial av companies selling it?  they don't write software unless there 
is a market.  If there is a market, there IS a need.


The chinese and others are busy trying to figure out how to end the 
computer economy if and when they want to.  they are working on linux too.



At 08:29 AM 3/18/2007, you wrote:

Not with Linux...

On 3/18/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You've got to have anti-virus!




Loren Faeth 





Re: [MBZ] Rebuild (was OM 617 badly sick)vacuum pump again

2007-03-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The vacuum pump on his car wont pump oil into the intake, only the older 
diaphram versions vent to the intake.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
In a message dated 3/17/2007 5:11:59 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I pretty  much nailed it down to what Kaleb suggests: Bad #1 rod
bearing, collapsed  #1 rings. It all supports the symptoms: Hammering
at 1/2 RPM, blue smoke  out the tail pipe and oil coming out around  #1
prechamber.



ONE last check you could do.  Remove the line from the vacuum pump to  the 
intake and check for copious amounts of oil being pumped into the intake  
manifold from a damaged vacuum pump.  I know you said it still makes vacuum  but it 
could still be your problem.  the oil would pre ignite and give  off with a 
knocking sound and blue smoke.  
 
Good luck,  


Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 264 K miles 
98 ML 320, 147 K  miles





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Re: [MBZ] Router and Firewall

2007-03-18 Thread Lee Einer
OK, first of all viruses vs hacker exploits are apples and oranges. Any
system can be hacked, but a Linux system is typically secure against
damage from viruses. In fact, of the few viruses which have been written
for Linux, most have relied on social engineering to trick the user into
doing something dumb while signed on as root.

Lee

Tom Hargrave wrote:
 Viruses attack Windows only because Windows is 80% of the installed base.
 It's not worth the effort to write viruses for the rest (Linux  Apple)
 because the installed base is too small to spread effectively. If Linux 
 Windows were to swap places, or if Linux grows to more than 30% of the
 installed base, then Linux will have a very serious virus issue.
 
 
 Major organizations like UAB who are running Linux are experiencing serious
 issues now. Their Novel server farm is under constant attack  they have
 hade to resort to double firewalls, IP filtering and very expensive software
 to keep the bad guys out. Clients running Windows Server 2003 just need a
 firewall and good anti-virus software.
 
 Thanks,
 Tom Hargrave
 www.kegkits.com
 256-656-1924
  
 
 -Original Message-
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 On Behalf Of Levi Smith
 Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 8:30 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Router and Firewall
 
 Not with Linux...
 
 On 3/18/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You've got to have anti-virus!

 Thanks,
 Tom Hargrave
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 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 6:20 PM
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 Thanks Tom!!
I'll drop my Firewall - what about AV?

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Re: [MBZ] Router and Firewall

2007-03-18 Thread Tom Hargrave
Over  over again, I've seen very intelligent people  well respected
companies make the same claims you are making and over  over again, they
were proven wrong, usually by a 17 year old cranking out code from home.

There is no such thing as a system that can't be hacked and there is no such
thing as a system that can't be attacked by a virus. If it has not been done
yet then they just haven't figured out how (yet). Give the right people the
right motivation  there will be rampant Linux viruses bouncing around the
net!

By the way, I've been a UNIX developer, a forth developer, a C  c++
developer, a Windows developer, a Novel server Manager and a Windows network
manager  I've seen computers grow from the UNIX work stations to today's
hardware.

Thanks,
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Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 10:07 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Router and Firewall

OK, first of all viruses vs hacker exploits are apples and oranges. Any
system can be hacked, but a Linux system is typically secure against
damage from viruses. In fact, of the few viruses which have been written
for Linux, most have relied on social engineering to trick the user into
doing something dumb while signed on as root.

Lee

Tom Hargrave wrote:
 Viruses attack Windows only because Windows is 80% of the installed base.
 It's not worth the effort to write viruses for the rest (Linux  Apple)
 because the installed base is too small to spread effectively. If Linux 
 Windows were to swap places, or if Linux grows to more than 30% of the
 installed base, then Linux will have a very serious virus issue.
 
 
 Major organizations like UAB who are running Linux are experiencing
serious
 issues now. Their Novel server farm is under constant attack  they have
 hade to resort to double firewalls, IP filtering and very expensive
software
 to keep the bad guys out. Clients running Windows Server 2003 just need a
 firewall and good anti-virus software.
 
 Thanks,
 Tom Hargrave
 www.kegkits.com
 256-656-1924
  
 
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 Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 8:30 AM
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Router and Firewall
 
 Not with Linux...
 
 On 3/18/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You've got to have anti-virus!

 Thanks,
 Tom Hargrave
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 Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 6:20 PM
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Re: [MBZ] Router and Firewall

2007-03-18 Thread Russ Williams

Larry,

For a Good Free Anti virus I recommend AVG Free 
http://free.grisoft.com/doc/1

I use PC-Cillin from Trend Micro for my Laptop Computer.
The Retail Versions of McAfee and Norton are Junk. Both are BIG Memory Hogs.
The Corporate Ver. of Norton is Good if you have access to it.
We use it at our Computer Club for our systems. That's what's installed 
on My Desktop

systems.

Russ W.
Past President
Cajun Clickers Computer Club
http://www.clickers.org/
'83 240D x2


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   I'll drop my Firewall - what about AV?

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Re: [MBZ] texas cars for kids

2007-03-18 Thread Rich Thomas
Call them up and ask them how it works.  I don't know about the auction 
part.  The deal is run by this CAN Academy thing which is some sort of 
charter school for kids who have not done well in school but this outfit 
somehow helps them out.  When they had auctions here in Houston it 
seemed pretty well organized and the people knew what they were doing, 
more or less.  Some of the kids worked in the office, learning some 
skills I suppose.


You might also want to look at Insurance Auto Auctions -- I found out 
that the local PBS TV station runs their donated cars through IAA.  IAA 
is a big outfit and they have locations all over, and auctions of their 
stuff (a lot of wrecks) every now and again.  I think you need a salvage 
license but in TX it is cheap to get, probably same in OK.  I looked at 
their web site once, they had listings of the stuff for sale in each 
location.


--R

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
so I went ahead and decided to try bidding on a couple of cars online. 
So how does this work, people bid sort of like ebay before the real 
auction then people at the real auction can outbid those that already 
bid online or do none of the bids start going in till the real auction? 
  Reason I ask is that it says I am current high bidder.  That seems 
like there is online bidding going on right now.
  





[MBZ] my latest haul, a contest

2007-03-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
80 240D, stick shift, runs and drives, body good, interior good, brand 
new battery, even has the original becker.  Guess how much I paid. 
Winner gets free shipping on their next used parts purchase.

--
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 (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] my latest haul, a contest

2007-03-18 Thread Loren Faeth

0?  You were negotiating to get paid for hauling it off?

At 03:31 PM 3/18/2007, you wrote:

80 240D, stick shift, runs and drives, body good, interior good, brand
new battery, even has the original becker.  Guess how much I paid.
Winner gets free shipping on their next used parts purchase.
--
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  (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
  87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

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Re: [MBZ] my latest haul, a contest

2007-03-18 Thread Kevin Kraly

$250?

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula



Re: [MBZ] my latest haul, a contest

2007-03-18 Thread Rick Knoble

$275

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT
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80 240D, stick shift, runs and drives, body good, interior good, brand
new battery, even has the original becker.  Guess how much I paid.
Winner gets free shipping on their next used parts purchase.
--
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 (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

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Re: [MBZ] my latest haul, a contest

2007-03-18 Thread BillR
I'll put in for your standard $500.
BilR

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Subject: [MBZ] my latest haul, a contest

80 240D, stick shift, runs and drives, body good, interior good, brand 
new battery, even has the original becker.  Guess how much I paid. 
Winner gets free shipping on their next used parts purchase.
-- 
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  (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
  87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

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Re: [MBZ] my latest haul, a contest

2007-03-18 Thread Tom Hargrave
$500.00?

 
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Sent: 03/18/07 02:31 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] my latest haul, a contest
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
80 240D, stick shift, runs and drives, body good, interior good, brand 
new battery, even has the original becker.  Guess how much I paid. 
Winner gets free shipping on their next used parts purchase.
-- 
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  (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
  87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

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Re: [MBZ] Router and Firewall

2007-03-18 Thread Allan Streib
Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 That's what everybody with a mac said until 1993 or 4.  Linux
 viruses are already here.  If linux does not need av software, how
 come there are commercial av companies selling it?  they don't write
 software unless there is a market.  If there is a market, there IS a
 need.

There have been viruses as long as there have been personal/home
computers.  Way back before there were IBM PCs, there were viruses
for the Apple II, Commodore, and others -- they spread by sharing
floppy disks between users, which was the predominant mode of sharing
files and programs in the pre-internet days.  Another attack vector
was bulletin board sites that had offered file and program
downloads.

If you're running unixy server stuff on the internet, have a close
look at OpenBSD.  A bit different from Linux (actually closer to OS X
but without the glossy UI) but all the mainstream server software
(Apache, sendmail, databases, etc) has been ported and many
desktop-oriented apps as well.  Security is the top priority of the
OpenBSD team, and it's pretty bare-bones in the default install, but
that's what you want for a server (run only what you need).  If you
try it and like it, buy a CD set to support the cause.

Speaking of Anti-Virus, anyone have experiece with or opinion of
http://www.clamwin.com/ ??

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1966 230



Re: [MBZ] texas cars for kids

2007-03-18 Thread Allan Streib
Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You might also want to look at Insurance Auto Auctions -- I found
 out that the local PBS TV station runs their donated cars through
 IAA.  IAA is a big outfit and they have locations all over, and
 auctions of their stuff (a lot of wrecks) every now and again.  I
 think you need a salvage license but in TX it is cheap to get,
 probably same in OK.  I looked at their web site once, they had
 listings of the stuff for sale in each location.

IAA is the group that took away my totaled F150 last year.  I think
they are pretty much all wrecks and salvage stuff -- didn't know that
they took the charity cars too, I figured those went for scrap if they
were basket cases, or were sold as used if they had clear title and
were in reasonable shape.

Allan

-- 
1983 300D
1966 230



Re: [MBZ] Router and Firewall

2007-03-18 Thread LarryT

Hi Russ,
Thanks for the note.  I used AVG for almost a year.  Then I got a email 
saying it was time to renew.  I followed the links but could not find a link 
to the free version of AVG. I also followed the link you provided and was 
unable to locate the free version also.


Am I just not seeing it?

Thx -

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Router and Firewall



Larry,

For a Good Free Anti virus I recommend AVG Free
http://free.grisoft.com/doc/1
I use PC-Cillin from Trend Micro for my Laptop Computer.
The Retail Versions of McAfee and Norton are Junk. Both are BIG Memory 
Hogs.

The Corporate Ver. of Norton is Good if you have access to it.
We use it at our Computer Club for our systems. That's what's installed
on My Desktop
systems.

Russ W.
Past President
Cajun Clickers Computer Club
http://www.clickers.org/
'83 240D x2


LarryT wrote:

Thanks Tom!!
   I'll drop my Firewall - what about AV?

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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Re: [MBZ] my latest haul, a contest

2007-03-18 Thread Hendrik Riessen

Two cartons of beer.
Does the freebie offer extend to overseas customers?

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Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 7:01 AM
Subject: [MBZ] my latest haul, a contest



80 240D, stick shift, runs and drives, body good, interior good, brand
new battery, even has the original becker.  Guess how much I paid.
Winner gets free shipping on their next used parts purchase.
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

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Re: [MBZ] Vista hitstherecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement

2007-03-18 Thread LarryT

Thanks Tom,
   I appreciate the help.  I will probably disable my Firewall Monday - 
giving me another day to think about it.  ;-)


Sincerely,
Larry T
.
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From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com

Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista 
hitstherecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement




Larry,

I should have noted that you are feeding your desk top  lap top
computers. This means that your router is set up correctly. It would not
be providing an IP address for each machine if it were not.

Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com

Original Message
From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03/17/07 03:58 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits
therecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Tom wrote:a properly configured hardware router is the best firewall
you
can buy

Hi Tom,
I need a little more explanation please - I have a ethernet router
feeding
my desktop and laptop.  The Belkin router was configured by Comcast -
aalthough we used it straight out of the box for the most part -

What more should have been done to be a a properly configured router ?

Since I shouldn't need a firewall, do I need an Anti-virus?  Can a virus
get
thru?   Eliminating those 2 programs would speed up my systems quite a
bit
IMO.

I kinda understand what you're saying about a router - but if the
broadband
gets thru why not a hacker?

Thanks -

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/
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From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com; 'Mercedes
Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the
recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement



Bill,

I recommend uninstalling the application. If uninstalliing resolves

the

issue then I'd push for a full refund or a solution.

One real issue with Windows is the continued poor quality of some
software vendors.

Another real issue with Windows is computer owners installing multiple
anti-virus  firewall programs.

Neither of these issues are Mocrosoft or Windows fault.

By the way, if you have a router installed then you don't need a
firewall, not even Windows firewall because a properly configured
hardware router is the best firewall you can buy. Why? Because the bad
guys can't reach through the box to your machine. Plus, the firewall

is

away from your machine. With a software firewall, the bad guys are
already inside your machine and you are depending on the firewall to
keep them from going further.

But Symantec  the other software jockeys won't tell you this because
they would sell less worthless software.

Anti-virus software is a different story.

By the way, Windows is attacked so frequently because it's 80% of the
install base. Apple is just as vulnerable and Lynux is more vulnerable
but the virus writers don't bother. They are much happier attacking

the

80% install base. If the roles were reversed and Lunux or Apple were

on

top then everyone would be bashing that OS for its vulnerabilities.

Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com

Original Message
From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03/16/07 01:41 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers
-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Tom - I don't believe it is a hardware or memory problem as everything
worked perfectly for the 2 years prior to installing XP Repair Pro
2007.
I have little doubt that program is the problem.  The continuing

problem

is
that neither I nor the tech folks at XP Repair Pro 2007 can figure out
how
to get Outlook to download and send email.  I check for spyware
regularly,
though I don't expect that is the problem.
It remains a mystery, but one that is merely annoying, not a show
stopper.
BillR

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To: 'BillR' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List'
mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers -
hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement



Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your perspective), I work

on

a lot of Windows boxes.

And over 90 percent of the issues I resolve can be attributed to one

of

three causes.

1. Hardware not up the task, usually not enough memory.

2. Poorly written or incorrectly configured aftermarket application.

For

example, aftermarket firewall and Windows firewall turned on.

3. A rogue application (spyware, etc) running, usually downloaded

from

a

porn or 

Re: [MBZ] my latest haul, a contest

2007-03-18 Thread Sunil Hari

$150, only because of the new battery.

On 3/18/07, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Two cartons of beer.
Does the freebie offer extend to overseas customers?

- Original Message -
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mercedes Mailing List
mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 7:01 AM
Subject: [MBZ] my latest haul, a contest


 80 240D, stick shift, runs and drives, body good, interior good, brand
 new battery, even has the original becker.  Guess how much I paid.
 Winner gets free shipping on their next used parts purchase.
 --
 Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
  (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
  87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
 http://www.okiebenz.com

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Re: [MBZ] my latest haul, a contest

2007-03-18 Thread Chuck Landenberger

Seller paid you $100.

Chuck
On Mar 18, 2007, at 2:53 PM, Sunil Hari wrote:


$150, only because of the new battery.

On 3/18/07, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Two cartons of beer.
Does the freebie offer extend to overseas customers?

- Original Message -
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mercedes Mailing List
mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 7:01 AM
Subject: [MBZ] my latest haul, a contest


80 240D, stick shift, runs and drives, body good, interior good,  
brand

new battery, even has the original becker.  Guess how much I paid.
Winner gets free shipping on their next used parts purchase.
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

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