[MBZ] SL weather

[Jim Cathey]

It's SL time again here!  I've been driving the for-sale 450 SL
again this last week.  The saga:

Saturday, March 31, 2007

Dug the car out of storage in its deep hole in the back of the garage.
(Four cars shoehorned into a three-car garage.)  Uneventful, though I
can never seem to back it out as easily as it went into the far
corner, and it started right up.  Washed it.  We used it as a
datemobile, though with the top on.

The door lock vacuum system is leaking down in only a few hours, I
think I'll have to dive into that again.

Sunday, April 1, 2007

Made new stick-ons for the for-sale signs.  The link had changed, as
had the asking price!  Family had a nice drive to church, the booster
seat also works well in the rear bucket with the auxiliary seat belt.

Divide and conquer.  I teed off the rear two vacuum elements in the
trunk, we'll see if the doors hold vacuum.  The MityVac indicated that
the rear might have a tear somewhere (a variable leakdown rate, it
actually seemed worse at low vacuum levels), but it's not entirely
reliable.  (Its release valve leaks sometimes.)  The golf tee will
give me some good information, in time.

Monday, April 2, 2007

No, even with the trunk capped off it still leaks down quickly.  Will
need to do a more involved diagnosis.  Car is running well otherwise,
though.

Wednesday, April 4, 2007

When I went out into the garage this morning I smelled raw gasoline.
My wife had filled up the car last night, so I checked and found that
she had again put the gas cap on backwards.  (For whatever reason, it
only seals properly one of the two ways you can install it.  The
gasket is good, and a different cap also leaked.  I suspect that the
filler neck is slightly deformed.)  Gas will leak out on corners if
it's on the wrong way.  The black orientation arrow I'd drawn on it
with a Sharpie had again worn off.  So this morning I cut out an arrow
shape in a piece of masking tape and painted the arrow on the cap.
Two coats of primer, two of black paint.  I put the cap in the shop
oven to dry between coats.  We'll see if that arrow lasts longer, and
we'll see if she remembers/notices how it's supposed to point.

I dug out the foam 'football' vacuum pump I use for cruise control
testing.  (This is a lot quicker to deploy than the main shop vacuum
pump.)  I rigged a tee, vacuum gauge, and check valve to the line that
goes to the car's vacuum reservoir and pumped it down to 13" Hg.  It
held rock-solid at that level while I puttered around for awhile, so
I buttoned up the car.  We'll see how it reads tomorrow, I suspect that
(of course) the leaking is not in the tank but it'll be good to 
formally eliminate it as a suspect.  I'd feel pretty stupid tearing 
into the car

only to find that it was the tank all along!

...After work I checked and the vacuum was still solidly at 13" Hg.  I
think I can safely say that there are no leaks there.  Will check
again in the morning to be sure.

Aargh!  I found a shiny bit of plastic in the rear footwell, some
examination shows it to be the remains of the bezel from around the
seatback latch handle.  How the heck did that get broken?  I suspect
my wife, who drove the car yesterday evening.  She can be a bit
ham-handed when she gets frustrated, even more so than myself, and
that does machinery no favors.  Can't repair it since it's not all
there.  It's a dealer item, assuming I can still get one.  Crap.  She
claims to know nothing about it, I guess it's going to be one of the
great mysteries of life.

Thursday, April 5, 2007

No, no perceptible loss of vacuum in 24 hours.  The check valve also
seemed good and passed the hang-from-my-tongue test.  Got to dive into
the doors next, I guess.

I bought another for-sale sign for the side window today.  Cheap at
twice the price if it has any positive effect!  I tuck it between the
inner wipe strip and the glass, this will even work with the top off
and the window down.

Friday, April 6, 2007

I removed the glovebox liner to expose the vacuum hoses.  The
splitters behind the dash are too deeply buried in the corner to
access except by fingertip, so I cut the lines where they cross the
glovebox opening.  The vacuum test rig, when applied to the downstream
(door, filler, and trunk) lines showed them to be clear of leaking.
The upstream lines, when capped off, still showed leakage from the
main feed.  This points clearly towards the vacuum switch in the
driver's door.  (Which was brand new a few years ago.)  I now have
many junkyard valves to play with, so that will be the next step.
There's also an adjustment that may be out of whack.  Out of time, I
put everything back together with two 'new' rubber joints where I cut
the lines.

I also readjusted the trunk latch to make it operate better with the
locking system.  A washer under the latch plate at the bottom screw
did wonders for relieving some rubbing that made the button stick
sometimes.

Saturday, April 7, 2007

Yesterday I dropped my fuel/vacuum gauge while pu

Re: [MBZ] IP Troubles

[Jim Cathey]

lines when the primer pump is pushed, but there is nothing whatsoever 
coming out of the IP when the motor is cranked.  No amount of cranking


Could the vacuum fuel shutoff be stuck?  Unhook it and blow (by mouth)
into the line, then repeat the experiment with it still unhooked.
You can use the manual shutoff to kill the motor should you get it
started, or hook the brown line back up.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] More W124 gaser questions??

[E M]

Thanks John,

I"m still not 100% clear on the oil drain thing?  So the oil isn't drained
through a drain plug in the bottom of the crank?

20W-50 seems heavy to me too.  But the book seems to call for that.  Funny
thing is, if I'm reading it right, if the temp is consistantly hot, you can
run a (15W-40 I think, don't have the book here).  Why run thin when cold,
then switch to thicker as it gets hot, then if it remains really hot, switch
to a thinner grade?  Did I miss something or not read the manual correctly?

Thanks again,
Ed
300E

On 07/04/07, John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Apr 7, 2007, at 2:49 PM, E M wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> Want to do an oil change soon. Still freezing here, so won't get to
> the
> change for a few days.  The gas engine has 320,000 kms on it, and
> from what
> I can make out, when used in hot weather, it calls for a 20W-50
> dino oil.
> Is this the right grade for non synthetic stuff?  also, do you have
> to pull
> that bottom tray off to get to the drain bolt?  I haven't rolled on
> the
> ground yet to really look for it due to the cold.  Where do I find
> the oil
> filter?

well I just buy Mobil Devac 1 5w40 in 20 quart pails and use it in
everything, keeps
life more simple, diesel, gas, lawnmower,generator, etc.

20w50 seems heavy, but I ran 15w50 in my 300TE when in california

The engine is designed to pump he oil out of and then not mess with
removal and stripping of oil plug, and loosing screws for lower
engine shield.
See for example
http://www.amazon.com/Northern-Tool-and-Equipment-Liquivac/dp/BAXBO5
The place to buy such equipment is a boating store since that usually
is the target market.


Rusty will sell you filters
http://www.buymbparts.com/

otherwise your local auto-supply house should be able to order up a
Mahle, a K&N, or bosch filter for you


I recall there is a puller/clamp thing to use to pull the boots off
the plugs, otherwise you damage the wires.
something like http://www.samstagsales.com/images/hz1849-1.jpg



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Re: [MBZ] More W124 gaser questions??

[John M McIntosh]

On Apr 7, 2007, at 2:49 PM, E M wrote:


Hi Everyone,

Want to do an oil change soon. Still freezing here, so won't get to  
the
change for a few days.  The gas engine has 320,000 kms on it, and  
from what
I can make out, when used in hot weather, it calls for a 20W-50  
dino oil.
Is this the right grade for non synthetic stuff?  also, do you have  
to pull
that bottom tray off to get to the drain bolt?  I haven't rolled on  
the
ground yet to really look for it due to the cold.  Where do I find  
the oil

filter?


well I just buy Mobil Devac 1 5w40 in 20 quart pails and use it in  
everything, keeps

life more simple, diesel, gas, lawnmower,generator, etc.

20w50 seems heavy, but I ran 15w50 in my 300TE when in california

The engine is designed to pump he oil out of and then not mess with  
removal and stripping of oil plug, and loosing screws for lower  
engine shield.

See for example
http://www.amazon.com/Northern-Tool-and-Equipment-Liquivac/dp/BAXBO5
The place to buy such equipment is a boating store since that usually  
is the target market.



Rusty will sell you filters
http://www.buymbparts.com/

otherwise your local auto-supply house should be able to order up a  
Mahle, a K&N, or bosch filter for you



I recall there is a puller/clamp thing to use to pull the boots off  
the plugs, otherwise you damage the wires.

something like http://www.samstagsales.com/images/hz1849-1.jpg

[MBZ] W124 front windshielf??

[E M]

Has anyone changed the windshielf on a W124?  If do, does it go in from the
inside, or outside.  Looks like a lot of stuff has to come off before the
old one comes out?  Can anyone walk me through it.  Don't worry, I'm not
holding you to it, I'm not doing it myself, just curious about the process.
:-)

Thanks,
Ed
300E
320,000 kms

[MBZ] More W124 gaser questions??

[E M]

Hi Everyone,

Want to do an oil change soon. Still freezing here, so won't get to the
change for a few days.  The gas engine has 320,000 kms on it, and from what
I can make out, when used in hot weather, it calls for a 20W-50 dino oil.
Is this the right grade for non synthetic stuff?  also, do you have to pull
that bottom tray off to get to the drain bolt?  I haven't rolled on the
ground yet to really look for it due to the cold.  Where do I find the oil
filter?  I know, all pretty basic questions, but this is the first one on a
benz. hee hee.  Any other pointers when changing the oil and plugs?  I have
the plugs too.  Do I just pop the over off the wires to inspect them all?  I
can see a small chip in the cover, so didn't know if someone used a screw
driver to pop it off when, as in typical German fashion, there is a complex
series of steps to take first? :-)

Had the rear control armes changed the other day.  Guy said it was a job
getting them out, but the car rides very nice now.  Was fine before too, but
I could feel some sideways motion when cornering harder, which ofcourse is
the only way to go around corners. :-)

First nice day, the 300E, 911 and wagon are all getting oil changes, along
with the mowers. I"m going to try the synth stuff in one mower Larry, just
for fun.  I have two pro Toro mowers, so maybe I'll run synth in one and
dino in the other.  I think they will make a good test lab as if I alternate
using both this summer, they are easy to break down in the fall and see if
there are any differences between the two.

Hope everyone is enjoying the long weekend and Happy Easter to those who
celebrate.

Ed
300E
320,000 kms.

Re: [MBZ] Manual battery boost

[Zoltan Finks]

I ask questions I want to ask even in person. It does tend to make people
uncomfortable I've noticed though.

And as for the pop-starting thing: It would take a ton more pushing to
actually get a start than to do what I was asking about.

Brian

On 4/7/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I love the internet because people will float ideas like this. The
relative anonymity keeps them from worrying about getting laughed at.

Unless you lived on a hill I don't think the small amount you could push
the car would amount to much. Keep a good battery and keep the car in good
shape and you should be fine...

-Curt

Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 04:54:17 -0500
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Was wondering if anyone has ever tried this: In cold weather,
attempting to
start a manual tranny diesel: Before doing anything else: pushing the
vehicle a few feet and then popping the clutch out in first gear (or
reverse
might be geared lower?), thus hopefully achieving some engine rotation
(and
thereby relieving the starter of the task of lurching the near-frozen
engine
into motion)? Then proceeding with the appropriate starting procedure?

I used to do this with my motorcycle, thinking I was helping the
battery not
have work so hard to get the engine turning on cold mornings.

Brian
83 240D that has been starting well in 15 degree F lately


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Re: [MBZ] IP Troubles

[John M McIntosh]

So what about the fuel pump? Should you not get fuel out of the  
return line if the fuel pump is working, that would be excess fuel  
the IP isn't using.



On Apr 7, 2007, at 12:59 PM, B Dike wrote:


Dieselvolk,

We're having IP troubles with the 82 300CD.  Daughter reported that  
it was losing power and parked it at a local gas station.  I put in  
5 gal of diesel and it limped home sounding like the proverbial can  
of marbles with barely any power.  I figured it to be a plugged  
fuel filter due to lots of biodiesel and being driven on a  
chronically near-empty fuel tank.


After a new fuel filter and bleeding at the filter housing, no  
firing whatsoever the next morning.  I aired out the fuel line from  
the tank and checked out the shutoff valve, no problems.  Fuel  
weeps out of the injection lines when the primer pump is pushed,  
but there is nothing whatsoever coming out of the IP when the motor  
is cranked.  No amount of cranking will make the IP push fuel out  
the injection lines.  I removed the No. 1 line and nothing comes  
out of the little exit hole on the IP unless I push the primer pump.


I'm hoping that problem is merely some air in the IP waiting to be  
bled out.  Is there an air bleed screw on the IP for that purpose?   
My real concern is that the IP is damaged due to a slug of water or  
something from the bottom of the tank.  Ideas, anyone?


Thanks,

Re: [MBZ] FTP experiment

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 15:29:38 -0500 "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Works just as it should under XP.

That's because M$'s browsers substitute the standard "/" for the
non-standard "\" whenever they see it.


Craig

Re: [MBZ] FTP experiment

[LT Don]

It's down at the moment. Shifted OS from PCLinuxOS to Mepis SOHO server. Am
setting things back up right now.

On 4/7/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Works just as it should under XP. Ended up with 50 - 60 kbps today.

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[MBZ] IP Troubles

[B Dike]

Dieselvolk,

We're having IP troubles with the 82 300CD.  Daughter reported that it was 
losing power and parked it at a local gas station.  I put in 5 gal of diesel 
and it limped home sounding like the proverbial can of marbles with barely any 
power.  I figured it to be a plugged fuel filter due to lots of biodiesel and 
being driven on a chronically near-empty fuel tank.  

After a new fuel filter and bleeding at the filter housing, no firing 
whatsoever the next morning.  I aired out the fuel line from the tank and 
checked out the shutoff valve, no problems.  Fuel weeps out of the injection 
lines when the primer pump is pushed, but there is nothing whatsoever coming 
out of the IP when the motor is cranked.  No amount of cranking will make the 
IP push fuel out the injection lines.  I removed the No. 1 line and nothing 
comes out of the little exit hole on the IP unless I push the primer pump.

I'm hoping that problem is merely some air in the IP waiting to be bled out.  
Is there an air bleed screw on the IP for that purpose?  My real concern is 
that the IP is damaged due to a slug of water or something from the bottom of 
the tank.  Ideas, anyone?

Thanks,


Bruce
82 300CD 348kmi 'His'
85 300CD 253kmi 'Hers'
75 240D 202kmi 'Donner'
77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' gone to a better place
74 240D 79kmi 'Orangewagen'
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Re: [MBZ] Mrs. Kaleb will hate me for this

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

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Re: [MBZ] Cars in New England

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

actually, the 350 diesel was not all that bad.  They got a bad rep 
mainly because GM didnt support the dealers very well in training on how 
to work on them.  They did have some problems at first but there were 
fixed for that and after straightened out, they were fine.  Not MB 
caliber but decent.


Curt Raymond wrote:

Couple good ones on the Boston Craigs list I saw today
As usual no affiliation, use the delete key as you see fit.

http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/307621332.html Interesting ArcticQ 
project, rather than a 240D engine I'd be interested in a 300D...

http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/307619516.html 5 124 diesel wagons from a suspicions 
"failed biodiesel scheme".

http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/307615901.html Diesel Oldsmobile, been on 
since last summer. I'm close to at least going and seeing it. I don't want the 
car but a 350ci diesel thats still running must be a good one. Get one of the 
kits to put it in an S10 and you'd have something very interesting...

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Re: [MBZ] OT: cities with the safest drivers

[Allan Streib]

"Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>  I would guess that the Volvo drivers that are so crummy are the
> young folk whose parents have bestowed upon them their Swedish
> safety mobile.  Unless you are talking about drivers of newer
> high-end Volvos which drive about the same as those who pilot newer
> Audis (in an entitled and irresponsible fashion).

That's it, exactly.

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Re: [MBZ] Manual battery boost

[OK Don]

The starters in the MBs I've owned usually last at least 200,000
miles, and then it's either the electrical contacts in the solenoid or
the armature/brushes burning - not any mechanical issue due to extra
load. Jusy use it - don't worry about it.


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[MBZ] columbus CL 420SEL

[Sunil Hari]

http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/307628225.html

no interest, etc.

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Re: [MBZ] Leaking fuel line

[LT Don]

I used line that was rated for fuel injection (higher pressure than gravity
flow).

On 4/7/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


BTW, what was that highest grade of fuel line that you found?

I have in years past been enthralled with steel-braided line (like Earl's,
or that other more famous brand) but I began to wonder what the inside was
made of underneath the cool looking wrap.

My brother who works on city buses tells me of a steel-braided fuel line
that has some sort of liner inside. I don't know if it's available for
retail sale?

Brian
83 240D


On 4/6/07, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I concur. I had to replace some line on the VW, and I simply cut the
steel
> fuel line at a convenient place and used the highest grade of rubber
line
> that I could find.
>
> On 4/6/07, Scott Ritchey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > '85 300D?  Unless it looks like more failures are imminent, I'd be
> > inclined
> > to use a piece of fuel hose and hose clamps.  But what caused the leak
> in
> > the first place?
> >
> > Scott Ritchey
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 17:34
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> > Subject: [MBZ] Leaking fuel line
> >
> > My son's '85 300D has a leak in the fuel line located under the car,
> right
> > below the drivers seat.
> > It is the largest of the three lines routed through that area.  The
> small
> > diameter line is a brake line, and I think the medium sized one is for
> > fuel
> > return.  So the leaking one is probably fuel supply.
> > I clamped a piece of bicycle inner tube around it to solve the problem
> > temporarily.  But what are my options for replacing it?  I don't see
> fuel
> > lines on Rusty's site.  Does the dealer suppy them?  Or do I have to
buy
> > some kind of tubing and make a new line myself?
> >
> > Ned Kleinhenz
> > '95 E300D x2
> > '85 300D
> > 80 300TD
> > and now BMW Z3 2.8
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel Line Leak

[Jim Cathey]

The holes are likely a result of friction where the rubber mount got
hard and let grit in,


And/or rust where water was trapped there.


I've had the tranny cooler line bust that way.
Brazed it, as the W115 lines (not the hose, the steel line) is NA.


I've done that on the air lines on the Unimog.  I love welders!
Fire good!

-- Jim

[MBZ] Cars in New England

[Curt Raymond]

Couple good ones on the Boston Craigs list I saw today
As usual no affiliation, use the delete key as you see fit.

http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/307621332.html Interesting ArcticQ 
project, rather than a 240D engine I'd be interested in a 300D...

http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/307619516.html 5 124 diesel wagons from a 
suspicions "failed biodiesel scheme".

http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/307615901.html Diesel Oldsmobile, been on 
since last summer. I'm close to at least going and seeing it. I don't want the 
car but a 350ci diesel thats still running must be a good one. Get one of the 
kits to put it in an S10 and you'd have something very interesting...

-Curt

 
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Wash them with a nice slug of ammonia added in the washer -- this 
usually get the oil out.  Another option is to add a goodly dose of 
Oxyclean.

Worst case they make nice fire starters.

The holes are likely a result of friction where the rubber mount got 
hard and let grit in, I've had the tranny cooler line bust that way.  
Brazed it, as the W115 lines (not the hose, the steel line) is NA.

Peter

Re: [MBZ] OT VW Rabbit

[Gary Hurst]

would do nearly 100 all day long

i had one of those and really loved that car


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Yep, that is a german made Rabbit and from what I know they are good for
300,000 to 400,000 miles with no major engine work needed. I think they made
about 67hp, but they're pretty snappy with the 4 speed. Can't go wrong for
free...
Harry
69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles
72 350SL   118,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata


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Hello fellow MB-ers.  I have an opportunity to pick one up for nothing
since
the owner and his father want it gone from the driveway.  I believe it's a
'78 which would mean that it's a German-made Rabbit not the US or Mexican
models since it has round headlights and the horizontally slotted grill.
The story is that the alt gave out and it wasn't thought of as being worth
fixing.  The car has been sitting for 2 or three years, so the plan is to
set it up with a known good battery, fresh fuel and filters, and see what
happens.  I'm not sure if it needs oil put into the cylinders for added
lubrication for the first few revs before oil pressure can be established,
but it's easy enough to do.  It's straight and has an OK interior, but it
needs a MAJOR MAJOR cleanup.  If it works out, it will be Papa's run
around
town car.  I believe it has a 4 speed manny tranny which could be quite
fun.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula
1978 VW Rabbit, FNU, LNU.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Fuel economy, was VW Rabbit

[Curt Raymond]

My vehicles usually beat EPA estimates too. I think in my case its because I'm 
largely a highway driver...

-Curt

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andrew strasfogel wrote:
> 
> But the 1992 vs. today comparisons on fuel economy may not be 
comparable
> since EPA changed their formula for calculating the mileage.

Not sure how the forumla changed over the years, but certain little
changed cars lost about 10-15% during the mid 1980's. My 1989 Horizon, 
1980 citation, and 1979 300SD all beat their ratings. I got 35-37mpg
delivering pizza in the Horizon when it was new, EPA rated 24-34. 
I don't remember the EPA on the Citation, but it got 38mpg commuting
at 55mph, and I didn't own it until it had 145,000 miles on it. 

Mitch.

 
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Who people? Me people? No way man, I gots a penguin...

Anyway upgrading any OS is asking for trouble. Even on the Mac in OS 9 it was 
smart to do a "clean install" which made a new system folder and reduced the 
incidence of issues...
Upgrading an OS is for chumps, doesn't matter which OS.

Besides who thinks "I've got an 11am appointment, I'll just upgrade my OS"? It 
ALWAYS takes longer than anticipated.

-Curt

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my mother has wanted to go to DC for years, so here i am.  we are 
supposed
to meet my cousin david at 11 am, but at 11:30 there is no david.  he 
is not
one to be late.  i call and learn that he has been trying to upgrade to
vista all morning and he has been on the phone with microsoft all 
morning as
everything has become non-functional.

they finally all concurred that the problem is that upgrading is 
basically
bad and he should have done a clean install instead.

they are just laughing at us over in seattle.  first starbucks 
convinces all
of america to pay 4 bucks for a 65 cent cup of coffee.  now microsoft 
foists
this vista garbage on us and then blames us for not doing a clean 
install.

bill gates is laughing as hard at you people as i laughed at borat.




 
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Re: [MBZ] Manual battery boost

[Jim Cathey]

I used to do this with my motorcycle, thinking I was helping the 
battery not

have work so hard to get the engine turning on cold mornings.


I always found the kick-starter to be more congenial for such
purposes.  Most of our bikes were a bit cold-blooded, so a good
round of stomps did wonders for getting them going at first.
Bikes of that era didn't tend to have very big electrical
systems.  They were also carbureted, so tended to be a bit
fussier about that whole 'running' thing.

No kick starter?  Not a real bike then!  :-)

For the Benz?  I just start 'em per the owner's manual.
If I want to make it easier on everything I just plug in
the block heater for a bit.  (Which on the Winternheap
also runs a battery charger.)

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] OT VW Rabbit

[mykd1]

Thats sort of odd cause I've seen anything from 62 to 64 and some even say as 
high as 67hp. 
Oh well, even if its a gasser it'll still be as good as some of the newer cars. 
As I said for free you can't go wrong no matter what. 
Harry
69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles
72 350SL   118,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
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It's a gasser "Bunny".  I know that the 1.6L diesel only makes about 52hp. 
I was hoping that it was a diesel as I pulled off the fuel cap, but oh well. 
It's still more than worth the $0.00 price tag, a fun little project. 
Hopefully, I'll have her hoppin' down the bunny trail in no time, after all, 
it's almost easter.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursla
1978 Rabbit gasser, mileage unknown, FNU,LNU 


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Re: [MBZ] Manual battery boost

[Levi Smith]

Uhhh...  If you were going to go to that much trouble, why not just pop
start it entirely?

I suppose technically if you timed everything perfectly it could potentially
be a little less strain on the starter, but I'd never do it.  I'm just going
to start the car normally, OR I'm going to pop start it.  And I'm only going
to pop start it if for some reason I don't think it's going to start
normally...  Same as whether that's my car or my bike...

Levi

On 4/7/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Was wondering if anyone has ever tried this: In cold weather, attempting
to
start a manual tranny diesel: Before doing anything else: pushing the
vehicle a few feet and then popping the clutch out in first gear (or
reverse
might be geared lower?), thus hopefully achieving some engine rotation
(and
thereby relieving the starter of the task of lurching the near-frozen
engine
into motion)? Then proceeding with the appropriate starting procedure?

I used to do this with my motorcycle, thinking I was helping the battery
not
have work so hard to get the engine turning on cold mornings.

Brian
83 240D that has been starting well in 15 degree F lately
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[MBZ] Manual battery boost

[Zoltan Finks]

Was wondering if anyone has ever tried this: In cold weather, attempting to
start a manual tranny diesel: Before doing anything else: pushing the
vehicle a few feet and then popping the clutch out in first gear (or reverse
might be geared lower?), thus hopefully achieving some engine rotation (and
thereby relieving the starter of the task of lurching the near-frozen engine
into motion)? Then proceeding with the appropriate starting procedure?

I used to do this with my motorcycle, thinking I was helping the battery not
have work so hard to get the engine turning on cold mornings.

Brian
83 240D that has been starting well in 15 degree F lately

Re: [MBZ] OT: cities with the safest drivers

[Zoltan Finks]

I would guess that the Volvo drivers that are so crummy are the young folk
whose parents have bestowed upon them their Swedish safety mobile. Unless
you are talking about drivers of newer high-end Volvos which drive about the
same as those who pilot newer Audis (in an entitled and irresponsible
fashion).

I find that here in Southeastern Minnesota, the worst drivers tend to be
behind the wheel of Pontiac Grand something-or-others, Saturns and newer
Monte Carlos and Luminas. (in other words, young white trash). This is not
to mention the road-owning operators of full-sized 4x4s.

On the other end of the spectrum, you have the drivers in a certain town I
pass through on my commute, where the overwhelming vehicle of choice is the
Buick. I know I'm going to be late when one of these slowly enters the
roadway in front of me from a side street.

As far as "safe" drivers: as long as laziness and selfishness rule (which
will be always), driving will continue to be a losing proposition. Accidents
are when - not if. Makes caring about your vehicle a losing proposition as
well.

Brian
Who analyzes this, did you notice?

Alan wrote:


I've always found Volvo drivers to be among the worst...at least in
my locality.

>
> But the cities that follow on the list from Men's Health Magazine may
> be somewhat puzzling. After Des Moines are Jersey City, New Jersey;
> New York City; Yonkers, New York, and San Francisco.
>
> And where are the worst drivers?
>
> Columbia, South Carolina,leads the list, followed by St. Louis;
> Greensboro, North Carolina; Jackson, Mississippi, and Cheyenne,
> Wyoming.
>
> The survey used data from National Highway Traffic Safety
> Administration, Allstate Insurance and the Governors Highway Safety
> Association to rank 100 cities.
>
> The key factors in deciding the rankings include the total number of
> fatal accidents and fatal crashes caused by speeding."
>
> --
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> Norman, OK
> "Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
> sit there."
> Will Rogers
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Re: [MBZ] Leaking fuel line

[Zoltan Finks]

BTW, what was that highest grade of fuel line that you found?

I have in years past been enthralled with steel-braided line (like Earl's,
or that other more famous brand) but I began to wonder what the inside was
made of underneath the cool looking wrap.

My brother who works on city buses tells me of a steel-braided fuel line
that has some sort of liner inside. I don't know if it's available for
retail sale?

Brian
83 240D


On 4/6/07, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I concur. I had to replace some line on the VW, and I simply cut the steel
fuel line at a convenient place and used the highest grade of rubber line
that I could find.

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>
> '85 300D?  Unless it looks like more failures are imminent, I'd be
> inclined
> to use a piece of fuel hose and hose clamps.  But what caused the leak
in
> the first place?
>
> Scott Ritchey
>
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>
> My son's '85 300D has a leak in the fuel line located under the car,
right
> below the drivers seat.
> It is the largest of the three lines routed through that area.  The
small
> diameter line is a brake line, and I think the medium sized one is for
> fuel
> return.  So the leaking one is probably fuel supply.
> I clamped a piece of bicycle inner tube around it to solve the problem
> temporarily.  But what are my options for replacing it?  I don't see
fuel
> lines on Rusty's site.  Does the dealer suppy them?  Or do I have to buy
> some kind of tubing and make a new line myself?
>
> Ned Kleinhenz
> '95 E300D x2
> '85 300D
> 80 300TD
> and now BMW Z3 2.8
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Re: [MBZ] FTP experiment

[Jim Cathey]

Your experiment fails in a number of places because of M$'s use of
backslashes instead of slashes for directory level separators.


For those of you running Mac OSX, you can use this little script
I wrote for my HD installations.  You just run it in the right
directory and it makes long names that include backslashes (which
in Unix are just another character; in fact, the only 'special'
characters of the 256 in Unix are '/' and NULL).  I called it
'fixlinks'.  After you run it the stuff all just works.

-- Jim

#!/bin/sh

# Because the Flash garbage on the Mac butchers pathnames
# (uses backslashes instead of slashes in URL's) we can patch
# around this by making hard links to messed-up names for all
# the files that are properly found in subdirectories.

TMP=/tmp/$$
cd program || { echo "Required directory 'program' not found in '.'"; 
exit 1; }

find . -name \*.pdf -print | sed -e [EMAIL PROTECTED]/@@ >$TMP
<$TMP perl \
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rm $TMP

[MBZ] vista blows up another machine!

[Gary Hurst]

my mother has wanted to go to DC for years, so here i am.  we are supposed
to meet my cousin david at 11 am, but at 11:30 there is no david.  he is not
one to be late.  i call and learn that he has been trying to upgrade to
vista all morning and he has been on the phone with microsoft all morning as
everything has become non-functional.

they finally all concurred that the problem is that upgrading is basically
bad and he should have done a clean install instead.

they are just laughing at us over in seattle.  first starbucks convinces all
of america to pay 4 bucks for a 65 cent cup of coffee.  now microsoft foists
this vista garbage on us and then blames us for not doing a clean install.

bill gates is laughing as hard at you people as i laughed at borat.

Re: [MBZ] FTP experiment

[LT Don]

Naw, the flash (matrix6) is just the smoke and mirrors for the front end.
Easily bypassed.

On 4/6/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 22:33:44 -0500 Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Welcome to browsing the CD's in Linux.

If they used text files, I would say one could copy everything to one's
disk and then correct the paths called, but with Flash, which I presume is
binary, that probably won't work.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] FTP experiment

[Luther]

if I had flash creater, I'd recreate the flash file with Linux/web ok file 
paths.

Luther

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> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 22:33:44 -0500 Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Welcome to browsing the CD's in Linux.
>
> If they used text files, I would say one could copy everything to one's
> disk and then correct the paths called, but with Flash, which I presume is
> binary, that probably won't work.
>
>
> Craig
>


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'83 300SD (242 kmi) for sale
'82 300CD (163 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine
'85 300D (280,176) parts car

Re: [MBZ] FTP experiment

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 22:33:44 -0500 Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Welcome to browsing the CD's in Linux.

If they used text files, I would say one could copy everything to one's
disk and then correct the paths called, but with Flash, which I presume is
binary, that probably won't work.


Craig

Re: [MBZ] FTP experiment

[Luther]

Welcome to browsing the CD's in Linux.

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:15:35 -0500, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 14:59:06 -0500 "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> -- again, this is just an experiment.
>
> Your experiment fails in a number of places because of M$'s use of
> backslashes instead of slashes for directory level separators.
>
> The Flash presentations starting at
>
>   ftp://don.homelinux.net/pub/W123-1/matrix6.htm and
>   ftp://don.homelinux.net/pub/W123-2/matrix6.htm
>
> work very nicely, but once you get to selecting something (and don't hit
> your browser's back button because you'll have to re-load the Flash
> presentation), like 300D '81 on W123-2/matrix6.htm and then the
> maintenance manual (which then takes you to
> ftp://don.homelinux.net/pub/W123-2/main_81_3d.htm) and then Maintenance
> System Sheet, you get an error message that says,
>
>   550/pub/W123-2/Maintenance\sheets81.pdf: No such file or directory
>
> That means you have the name of the file, but then you need to open
> another tab and search for the file.
>
>
> Craig
>



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'82 300CD (163 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine
'85 300D (280,176) parts car

Re: [MBZ] FTP experiment

[LT Don]

Sorry, didn't scroll down far enough. Five IPs are there under anonymous.
That explains what you are seeing.

On 4/6/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Averaging about 10kbps - wonder how many users are on your ftp site?


> A wise man would learn what pdf he needs for a particular job and
acquire
> that one.

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Re: [MBZ] FTP experiment

[LT Don]

But, network monitor shows average send speed of 66KB/s, currently 82KB/s.

On 4/6/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Averaging about 10kbps - wonder how many users are on your ftp site?


> A wise man would learn what pdf he needs for a particular job and
acquire
> that one.

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Re: [MBZ] FTP experiment

[LT Don]

Just ran LAST in terminal -- two in anonymous FTP.

On 4/6/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Averaging about 10kbps - wonder how many users are on your ftp site?


> A wise man would learn what pdf he needs for a particular job and
acquire
> that one.

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Re: [MBZ] FTP experiment

[OK Don]

Averaging about 10kbps - wonder how many users are on your ftp site?



A wise man would learn what pdf he needs for a particular job and acquire
that one.


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Re: [MBZ] FTP experiment

[LT Don]

Well, the originals came from eBay and certainly weren't factory.

A wise man would learn what pdf he needs for a particular job and acquire
that one.

On 4/6/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 20:12:11 -0500 "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Craig:
>
> Yea, I know the Flash doesn't come across as clean. But the important
> things, the pdf files, are ripe for the pickin'.
>
> On the CDs, one runs the Matrix6, which gives a nice Benz running across
> the screen.
>
> I guess someone could download everything on the two CDs, burn the CDs
> and have a working W123 library. But that would be a lot of effort - and
> illegal.

Are these the CDs one gets for something like $20, as was mentioned awhile
back? Not worth the effort for that price.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] FTP experiment

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 20:12:11 -0500 "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Craig:
> 
> Yea, I know the Flash doesn't come across as clean. But the important
> things, the pdf files, are ripe for the pickin'.
> 
> On the CDs, one runs the Matrix6, which gives a nice Benz running across
> the screen.
> 
> I guess someone could download everything on the two CDs, burn the CDs
> and have a working W123 library. But that would be a lot of effort - and
> illegal.

Are these the CDs one gets for something like $20, as was mentioned awhile
back? Not worth the effort for that price.


Craig

Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control?

[Mitch Haley]

Oops, meant that one to be offlist.

Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control?

[Mitch Haley]

Frederick Moir wrote:
> 
> Mitch, CRS struck again. What parts of the car were totalled?

Hit RF. Totaled the RF suspension, unobtanium fender, and RF door.
Tweeked the chassis good and broke the windshield too. Dark silver
with burgundy interior. Interior not the best, and worse now after the
door has been open for two winters. Idiot teenage girl just had
to kick it open instead of crawling out the driver's side. No way
it will ever shut again. 

Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] 190E and 300CE on columbus CL

[Mitch Haley]

Sunil Hari wrote:
> 
> this one's not so rare:
> 
> http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/307457763.html

Indeed, it's just a 190E, clearly not a 2.3-16, although it
does appear to be Smoke Silver. 
I might be interested in the CE for $2500 or so, but I'm
saving my pennies to build a new shop, and he's asking 
$5900.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Fuel economy, was VW Rabbit

[Mitch Haley]

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> 
> But the 1992 vs. today comparisons on fuel economy may not be comparable
> since EPA changed their formula for calculating the mileage.

Not sure how the forumla changed over the years, but certain little
changed cars lost about 10-15% during the mid 1980's. My 1989 Horizon, 
1980 citation, and 1979 300SD all beat their ratings. I got 35-37mpg
delivering pizza in the Horizon when it was new, EPA rated 24-34. 
I don't remember the EPA on the Citation, but it got 38mpg commuting
at 55mph, and I didn't own it until it had 145,000 miles on it. 

Mitch.

[MBZ] 190E and 300CE on columbus CL

[Sunil Hari]

looks like a dealer, but it's a rare car:

http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/307466213.html

this one's not so rare:

http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/307457763.html

any interest?
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513-205-7474

Re: [MBZ] Moose eggs

[OK Don]

Down here in Norman, there have been only a few flurries, but nothing
is sticking.
Moose egg hunting begins Sunday AM -

On 4/6/07, Hans Neureiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Slow today. Must be getting Easter Moose Egg coloring time.
Is the snow melting in OK Land?



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"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there."
Will Rogers
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

[MBZ] 91 350SDL transmission

[wilton strickland]

What is fluid capacity of 91 350SDL transmission?
How much to add from near end of stick to top mark?

Wilton

Re: [MBZ] FTP experiment

[LT Don]

Craig:

Yea, I know the Flash doesn't come across as clean. But the important
things, the pdf files, are ripe for the pickin'.

On the CDs, one runs the Matrix6, which gives a nice Benz running across the
screen.

I guess someone could download everything on the two CDs, burn the CDs and
have a working W123 library. But that would be a lot of effort - and
illegal.

;-)>

Don


On 4/6/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 14:59:06 -0500 "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> -- again, this is just an experiment.

Your experiment fails in a number of places because of M$'s use of
backslashes instead of slashes for directory level separators.

The Flash presentations starting at

  ftp://don.homelinux.net/pub/W123-1/matrix6.htm and
  ftp://don.homelinux.net/pub/W123-2/matrix6.htm

work very nicely, but once you get to selecting something (and don't hit
your browser's back button because you'll have to re-load the Flash
presentation), like 300D '81 on W123-2/matrix6.htm and then the
maintenance manual (which then takes you to
ftp://don.homelinux.net/pub/W123-2/main_81_3d.htm) and then Maintenance
System Sheet, you get an error message that says,

  550/pub/W123-2/Maintenance\sheets81.pdf: No such file or directory

That means you have the name of the file, but then you need to open
another tab and search for the file.


Craig

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[MBZ] Freightliner motorhome

[wilton strickland]

I found it on Sprinter site.  I was thinking this engine is a 320 CDI (6
cyl), but no, it's a 2.7L  CDI (5 cyl).

Wilton

Re: [MBZ] FTP experiment

[John M McIntosh]

Well other than Smarts at 15K or so pricing starts at 30K. But what  
is more interesting to most list members
is what pricing will be like 20 years out on these vehicles given the  
average age of benzes on the list.


My 83 wagon was deemed Mercedes-Benz Luxury Automobile, not Joe 6  
pack Hauler...

If I recall pricing was something under $45,000Cdn in 83 for mine.

What would an 83 chevy wagon have been, anyone know?

mmm, ebay claims 1983 Volvo 245DL Wagon $500 ask, $1500 buy it now.   
83 mercedes wagon btn is $4950 (rebuilt engine (one wonders)).




On Apr 6, 2007, at 4:45 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote:

"Mercedes-Benz, Home of Mercedes-Benz Luxury Automobiles."

You can see what market they're aiming for, and it's not people  
like us on

the Mercedes List.


Craig



John
1983 300TDt  368k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990's 300TDt  172k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 180k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)

Re: [MBZ] FTP experiment

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 14:59:06 -0500 "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> -- again, this is just an experiment.

Your experiment fails in a number of places because of M$'s use of
backslashes instead of slashes for directory level separators.

The Flash presentations starting at

  ftp://don.homelinux.net/pub/W123-1/matrix6.htm and
  ftp://don.homelinux.net/pub/W123-2/matrix6.htm

work very nicely, but once you get to selecting something (and don't hit
your browser's back button because you'll have to re-load the Flash
presentation), like 300D '81 on W123-2/matrix6.htm and then the
maintenance manual (which then takes you to
ftp://don.homelinux.net/pub/W123-2/main_81_3d.htm) and then Maintenance
System Sheet, you get an error message that says,

  550/pub/W123-2/Maintenance\sheets81.pdf: No such file or directory

That means you have the name of the file, but then you need to open
another tab and search for the file.


Craig

[MBZ] Moose eggs

[Hans Neureiter]

Slow today. Must be getting Easter Moose Egg coloring time.
Is the snow melting in OK Land?

--
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Re: [MBZ] Leaking fuel line

[Hans Neureiter]

Go to yout local Parts Mc Store and get a piece of steel brake line.
Cut the cracked piece out an splice it in with rubber hose sleeves and
clamps. Your "temp." solution is  most likely to last forever.

On 4/6/07, ned kleinhenz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

My son's '85 300D has a leak in the fuel line located under the car, right
below the drivers seat.
It is the largest of the three lines routed through that area.  The small
diameter line is a brake line, and I think the medium sized one is for fuel
return.  So the leaking one is probably fuel supply.
I clamped a piece of bicycle inner tube around it to solve the problem
temporarily.  But what are my options for replacing it?  I don't see fuel
lines on Rusty's site.  Does the dealer suppy them?  Or do I have to buy
some kind of tubing and make a new line myself?

Ned Kleinhenz
'95 E300D x2
'85 300D
80 300TD
and now BMW Z3 2.8
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