Re: [MBZ] Europa

[Craig]

On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 18:57:51 -0700 Alex Chamberlain
 wrote:

> As is loss of ability to detect humor.  I'm sure I'm not the only one
> for whom, even in a Mercedes context, the word "Europa" conjures up
> images of befinned Becker radios second and the bug-eyed bread-truck
> abomination from Coventry first.

Actually, the bug-eyed bread-truck abomination was not the Europa. It was
the Elite (or Esprite, or something like that).


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Virus attack on the Information minister

[Craig]

On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 18:15:19 -0700 (PDT) LWB250  wrote:

> Just replaced a bum hard drive in a classroom computer.
> 
> Using Altiris Deployment Solutions and an image of a "golden" machine
> the workstation was back up and running as original in about 20 minutes.

After you do a fresh install of Windows and update it, connect the disk
to your handy-dandy linux system (with a disk larger than the one with
Windows on it) and execute:

dd if=/dev/windows-disk of=windows-disk.iso

Shut the Linux system down, and put the Windows disk in its computer.

Then when Windows barfs, you can quickly get back to where you were by
reattaching the Windows disk to the Linux system and executing,

dd if=windows-disk.iso of=/dev/windows-disk .

At work, I made 13 identical systems this way and only had to suffer
through the abominable Windows install once.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] W123 stuck fuel sending unit

[Craig]

On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:02:33 -0400 andrew strasfogel
 wrote:

> For awhile I could boast that the car had a fuel economy
> approaching infinity mpg.

Until it ran out of diesel ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Europa

[Craig]

On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 06:41:03 -0700 Alex Chamberlain
 wrote:

> Your 911 came with an OE Lotus Europa?  Shouldn't that have been the
> other way around---every Europa came with a free Porsche so you'd have
> something to drive while the Lotus is in the shop?

I had a '69 Lotus Europa. Nice little car, but delicate.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] diesel coupe

[OK Don]

Let's hope so, anyway ---

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

>
> Considering that the W123 300CD was conceived for, and sold by, MBNA
> exclusively, I think somewhere down the road you just might be eating
> your hat, Roger.
>
> Alex



OK Don
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1992 300D 2.5T
1990 300D 2.5T
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Re: [MBZ] mediocrity or worse

[RELNGSON]

> As is loss of ability to detect humor.  I'm sure I'm not the only one
> for whom, even in a Mercedes context, the word "Europa" conjures up
> images of befinned Becker radios second and the bug-eyed bread-truck
> abomination from Coventry first..
> 
So noted and agreed.

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Re: [MBZ] diesel coupe

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:02 PM,   wrote:
>> SWMBO wants to buy a new Mercedes diesel coupe.  Will one be on the
>> market
>> for 2011?...
>>
> Not in North America. Ever.
>

Considering that the W123 300CD was conceived for, and sold by, MBNA
exclusively, I think somewhere down the road you just might be eating
your hat, Roger.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Europa

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:26 PM,   wrote:
>> .Your 911 came with an OE Lotus Europa?  Shouldn't that have been the
>> other way around---every Europa came with a free Porsche so you'd have
>> something to drive while the Lotus is in the shop?...
>>
> Poor short term memory is one of the early signs.
>

As is loss of ability to detect humor.  I'm sure I'm not the only one
for whom, even in a Mercedes context, the word "Europa" conjures up
images of befinned Becker radios second and the bug-eyed bread-truck
abomination from Coventry first.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Virus attack on the Information minister

[Walt Zarnoch]

I hate the windows registry. Enough said.

Walt

On Sep 7, 2010 9:15 PM, "LWB250"  wrote:

Just replaced a bum hard drive in a classroom computer.

Using Altiris Deployment Solutions and an image of a "golden" machine the
workstation was back up and running as original in about 20 minutes.

We have used Altiris since 2005 for managing workstations and servers.
 Between it and group policies/Active Directory we can pretty much control
things right down to the desktop.

Dan


--- On Tue, 9/7/10, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> From: Curt Raymond 

> Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Virus attack on the Information minister
> To: "Diesel List" 
> Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 2:21 PM

> There is a positive side to the
> reinstall, you know you're on a good clean OS so it'll run
> fas...
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Virus attack on the Information minister

[LWB250]

Just replaced a bum hard drive in a classroom computer.

Using Altiris Deployment Solutions and an image of a "golden" machine the 
workstation was back up and running as original in about 20 minutes.

We have used Altiris since 2005 for managing workstations and servers.  Between 
it and group policies/Active Directory we can pretty much control things right 
down to the desktop.

Dan


--- On Tue, 9/7/10, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> From: Curt Raymond 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Virus attack on the Information minister
> To: "Diesel List" 
> Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 2:21 PM
> There is a positive side to the
> reinstall, you know you're on a good clean OS so it'll run
> fast and act nice for awhile.
> 
> In the classroom I need to reinstall Windows about twice a
> year, the systems slow down massively. I *think* it has to
> do with constantly uninstalling and reinstalling software.
> Thats on a weekly basis in there. My guess is the
> uninstallers don't always do a fantastic job and the
> registry ends up with errors. The machine can correct for
> that for some time but eventually it hits a tipping point
> and things slow down.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:09:49 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Van Knutson 
> To: mercedes okiebenz 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Virus attack on the Information
> minister
> Message-ID: <330544.91956...@web35804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> "Jim Cathey" 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To: 
> "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> 
> 
> > Any [antivirus] suggestions out there?
> 
> Linux.? Mac OS X.? No Microsoft anything on your machine.
> 
> -- Jim
> 
> *
> I
>  am an old Mac man.? My marriage to Windows is strictly of
> the shotgun 
> variety.? Too many things not ported to apple anymore.? My
> Strato-Matic 
> baseball game dropping Mac about 5 or 6 yrs ago was the
> last straw.? 
> Can't be w/o my Strat baseball game, can I?
> ?
> DBV, information minister
> ?
> ?
> PS--thanks
>  to ALL listers for feedback re: virus attack.? I guess
> reformatting was
>  a bit hamfisted. Should have let a cooler head prevail not
> hit panic 
> button and tried to eliminate it by alternate AV means.??
> Live + learn, 
> eh?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 2 quick questions ??

[E M]

Thanks Peter, quite a list of things to watch out for!

Ed
300E

On 7 September 2010 13:22, Peter Frederick  wrote:

> Battery should be the same size.
>
> As for what to look out for, the usual:  Bad AC, worn out links in the
> rear, worn out steering (pretty much a given above 170k miles), bad tranny.
>  Inspect the upper spring mounts for rust, will require using a lift.  If
> any present, pass.  Having a spring mount fail on the highway is not a fun
> thing to do.
>
> I believe this is a serious issue in Canada and the Salt Belt, less of a
> problem elsewhere, but look.
>
> Peter
>
>
> -Original Message-
> >From: E M 
> >Sent: Sep 7, 2010 1:15 PM
> >To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >Subject: [MBZ]  2 quick questions ??
> >
> >Hi Everyone,
> >
> >Two quick questions.
> >
> >Does anyone know offhand the case size for the battery in an '88 300E ?
> >Popped into a parts store, and they only had listings for the S Class.  I
> >know the 3.0 litre engine is the same size, but I wasn't sure if the
> >battery, and battery shelf in both cars are the same?  Their files showed
> a
> >case size #48 for the S Class.  Same for the E Class ?
> >
> >Anyone know of anything to watch out for with the previous generation of E
> >Class sedans?  Can't remember the code name.  From 2000 or something, to
> >2009.  I know rust was an issue with many.  Any other design faults you
> guys
> >know about?  Are they best avoided all together?
> >
> >Thanks everyone.
> >
> >Ed
> >300E
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[MBZ] I'm selling my 1982 Mercedes Benz 300 TD wagon.

[Keith Converse]

I am selling my parents 300 TD wagon because I need money for school (yes,
they know I'm selling it).

It is a 1982 Mercedes Benz 300TD diesel wagon. The car has around 350,000
miles (the odometer broke around 300,000).

It has a few issues;

- The rear leveling system does not work
- The a/c does not work
- The dash has some cracks in it
- It has small surface rust spots fro rocks hitting it. The paint is
original, but it's not flaking.

If you have more questions about the car, please call me, text me, or send
me an email.

The car is located in Grayson, GA (a suburb on the NE side of Atlanta)

Like I said, I am selling this car for money to go to college. So, I need to
sell this car in the next week or two.

-Keith 678-480-8437
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Re: [MBZ] W211

[E M]

Thanks for the info and what to watch out for.

I really enjoy cars, but more of my pleasure these days is derived from
messing about cleaning them, than laying under them and fixing them.  I
enjoying "tinkering", but the days of spending the weekends working on a
car, so that I can drive it during the week are quickly passing.

I've always wanted one nice daily drive, one hobby car, and I would allow
myself one motorcycle.  I have reliable daily transport, but I would like to
make that a Mercedes.  I have the hobby car covered.  As for the bike, it's
something I think about, but the reality of it is, I will probably allow it
to remain a fantasy.  When I do dream, it's now usually about something
that's old and British, that leaks oil, rather than the latest Ducati. Mind
you, a nice BMW would look nice next to the hobby car. :-)

Thanks again.

Ed
300E

On 7 September 2010 17:51,  wrote:

> > ...Anyone know of anything to watch out for with the previous generation
> > of E Class sedans?  Can't remember the code name.  From 2000 or
> something,
> > to 2009.  I know rust was an issue with many.  Any other design faults
> you
> > guys know about?  Are they best avoided all together?
> >
> The W211 hit the US market in 2003 and along with the W203 destroyed MB's
> worldwide engineering reputation, killing sales but providing a good income
> for the dealer techs on warranty work. My friend SJB bought a 2003 E500
> Sport
> (metallic blue, gray leather, etc.) and it was a lovely car when it was not
> in the shop or dead in the garage. He is still driving the car at about 70K
> miles now and it's all better after countless service visits, the last one
> being a bearing replacement up front someplace, not exactly unknown on this
> V-8. Covered by the extended warranty. On the other hand, my friend AC has
> an '07 E320 V-6 Bluetec diesel that has been absolutely reliable.
>
> So, after spending who knows how much on warranty claims, MB fixed the W211
> 9and the W203) around 2006 and it became an excellent car. Probably almost
> as reliable as my W204. Anyone who spends any time hanging around any MB
> dealer knows that what with the W212, W204 and W221, warranty shop orders
> have
> cut so far back that one of the big California dealers laid off their
> entire
> second shift.
>
> So, buying a late W211 would be safe but could be frustrating to a car
> hobbyist since there just isn't much to do except keep it clean and drive
> it.
> Which might be a new concept for some.
>
>
> RLE
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Re: [MBZ] diesel coupe

[RELNGSON]

> SWMBO wants to buy a new Mercedes diesel coupe.  Will one be on the 
> market
> for 2011?...
> 
Not in North America. Ever.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] defensive

[RELNGSON]

> ...Oh boy... its no surprise to hear a comment like this from you.
> 
> Have you bothered comparing them to anything else built in the 1960s?
> 
> Jaime..
> 
You took the bait, as I knew you would since I threw in that last sentence 
just to see if you were awake. Sure, in car radios their competition was 
Blaupunkt and I owned a few of those. In fact I still have a Blaupunkt Derby 
which needs repair.

RLE
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Blue

[RELNGSON]

> ...> 05 is the last year of the straight 6 and doesn't have a chemical
> > plant under it.
> 
> Chemical plant?  You mean the AdBlue system?..
> 
MB sells no sedans with urea injection here as yet. And the 2011 W212 
diesel has been delayed once again because of this, now to be available in 
December, so they say.

RLE
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W211

[RELNGSON]

> ...Anyone know of anything to watch out for with the previous generation 
> of E Class sedans?  Can't remember the code name.  From 2000 or something, 
> to 2009.  I know rust was an issue with many.  Any other design faults you 
> guys know about?  Are they best avoided all together?
> 
The W211 hit the US market in 2003 and along with the W203 destroyed MB's 
worldwide engineering reputation, killing sales but providing a good income 
for the dealer techs on warranty work. My friend SJB bought a 2003 E500 Sport 
(metallic blue, gray leather, etc.) and it was a lovely car when it was not 
in the shop or dead in the garage. He is still driving the car at about 70K 
miles now and it's all better after countless service visits, the last one 
being a bearing replacement up front someplace, not exactly unknown on this 
V-8. Covered by the extended warranty. On the other hand, my friend AC has 
an '07 E320 V-6 Bluetec diesel that has been absolutely reliable. 

So, after spending who knows how much on warranty claims, MB fixed the W211 
9and the W203) around 2006 and it became an excellent car. Probably almost 
as reliable as my W204. Anyone who spends any time hanging around any MB 
dealer knows that what with the W212, W204 and W221, warranty shop orders have 
cut so far back that one of the big California dealers laid off their entire 
second shift.

So, buying a late W211 would be safe but could be frustrating to a car 
hobbyist since there just isn't much to do except keep it clean and drive it. 
Which might be a new concept for some.


RLE
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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

[Mitch Haley]

John Freer wrote:

I just read where all MB chassis' will have the Bluetec option except
the C class and the SL and SLK. Didn't specify coupe vs. sedan but I
kind of doubt it.


#dmunds doesn't have any info on a E-classe diesel yet:
http://www.edmunds.com/mercedesbenz/eclass/2011/index.html

You sure Donna doesn't want a nice R-wagen instead?
2010s are already available.

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Re: [MBZ] Europa

[RELNGSON]

> .Your 911 came with an OE Lotus Europa?  Shouldn't that have been the
> other way around---every Europa came with a free Porsche so you'd have
> something to drive while the Lotus is in the shop?...
> 
Poor short term memory is one of the early signs.

The discussion was in re: Becker Europa, a mediocre but expensive model. As 
to the Lotus Europa, a close friend born in London has said, "Give an 
Englishman some fiberglass and he will do something stupid with it."

RLE
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

[John Freer]

I just read where all MB chassis' will have the Bluetec option except
the C class and the SL and SLK. Didn't specify coupe vs. sedan but I
kind of doubt it.

John

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:07 PM, andrew strasfogel  wrote:
> SWMBO wants to buy a new Mercedes diesel coupe.  Will one be on the market
> for 2011?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:10 PM, John Freer  wrote:
>
>> Yep. I was just taking poetic license as I heard an MB salesman use that
>> term!
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Alex Chamberlain
>>  wrote:
>> > On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:42 PM, John Freer  wrote:
>> >> Have an 05 with 52K miles. 35 mpg road, 25 town and 0-60 in 6.7
>> >> seconds...best diesel MB ever made!
>> >>
>> >> 05 is the last year of the straight 6 and doesn't have a chemical
>> >> plant under it.
>> >
>> > Chemical plant?  You mean the AdBlue system?
>> >
>> > Alex
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

[Mitch Haley]

andrew strasfogel wrote:

SWMBO wants to buy a new Mercedes diesel coupe.  Will one be on the market
for 2011?


They never sold the ForTwo diesel here, did they?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

[andrew strasfogel]

SWMBO wants to buy a new Mercedes diesel coupe.  Will one be on the market
for 2011?



On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:10 PM, John Freer  wrote:

> Yep. I was just taking poetic license as I heard an MB salesman use that
> term!
>
> John
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Alex Chamberlain
>  wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:42 PM, John Freer  wrote:
> >> Have an 05 with 52K miles. 35 mpg road, 25 town and 0-60 in 6.7
> >> seconds...best diesel MB ever made!
> >>
> >> 05 is the last year of the straight 6 and doesn't have a chemical
> >> plant under it.
> >
> > Chemical plant?  You mean the AdBlue system?
> >
> > Alex
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Today' Crack Smoker

[andrew strasfogel]

ROTFLBAO!

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> He's a looser.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 9/7/10 2:18 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
>
>> I'd like to believe that he is a passionate adherent of wacky homonyms:
>>
>> "I did this for a car that is getting ready too sell and wanted too set
>> off
>> the car from the heard."
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Van Knutson
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Alex Chamberlain"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To:
>>> "Mercedes Discussion List"
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Russ Williams
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
 Becker Europa Radio



>>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260660626655&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123
>>>
>>>



>>> I'd really like to believe that the guy entered a zero too many while
>>> posting his auction and didn't notice.
>>>
>>> On the other hand there are plenty of people who think that any used
>>> part is worth its weight in gold if it came out of a Mercedes.  I see
>>> this all the time on Craigslist with people trying to sell battered
>>> sets of 300E pancake wheels for $500.
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> 
>>> The price would be about right if the Becker came in a handsome W123
>>> carrying case.
>>>
>>> DBV, information minister
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT electrical connection for outboard motor

[WILTON]

Careful with all that nautical talk; soon you be trying to get us to go to 
port or starboard

or looking for a line instead of a rope.  ;<

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT electrical connection for outboard motor



Motor pretty much required at the busy launch that we typically use,
which has a fairly tight little quay and sometimes a line of boats
waiting to be recovered.  Once I have a fathometer installed, I want to
try the launch at the back of our neighborhood, which is on a shallow
creek with narrow channel.

I ended up getting some proper marine grade 6 gauge cable at West
Marine, and then made a crude junction block just inside the hull.
Looks very clean, but will take a little more time to take the motor off
now.  6 gauge really is too heavy, I will replace with 8 gauge next
time.

This boat had been in outside storage for about four years, and it was
filthy inside and out, but several days of cleaning fixed that.  I also
replaced both the main halyard and the jib halyard, playing bosun' mate
for a day, whipping the ends of the lines with needle and heavy carpet
thread.  Never did put the boat in the water as entire family came up on
the binnacle list (sick list for you land lubbers) Monday so we just
took it easy around the house.  I blame my daughter - she brought home
some new bugs from her pre-school which started last week (take note
Donald, more joys of parenthood to look forward to :) ).

-Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 8:17 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT electrical connection for outboard motor

Sailboat? Why have a motor? Mine don't.  But then again, mine are only
16'
and 17'  

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310  wrote:


I'm getting our sailboat ship-shape after four years of outdoor
storage, and the battery cable that runs from the battery (inside the
hull) to the outboard motor needs to be replaced.



--
OK Don
2001 ML320
1992 300D 2.5T
1990 300D 2.5T
1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager
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Re: [MBZ] Virus attack on the Information minister

[Fmiser]

> Van Knutson wrote:
> Any suggestions out there?

Linux with a proper root account separate from the one you use.

Or, try WinPatrol.  It's is _not_ an virus scanner. Rather it
watches the system files and directories (folders) and alerts
you to changes.   Thus it is often trigged when installing new
software.  But if you are _not_ installing software and it pops
up and says 
."The program FooBar wants to be run as a startup. Do
. you wish to allow this?"
you can say "no".

--  Philip

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Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux, and browser control

[Fmiser]

> Tim C wrote:
> If you don't use flash you should get rid of it.  That's where
> all my recent spikes and hangs have come from.  Noscript at
> least has helped block anything I don't specifically approve
> but it takes a lot of patience to train.

I find it's quite easy to train.  Have it set to "none", then as
if I encounter a site that requires it, two clicks and I'm done.

I also use FlashBlock that requires a click to run each flash
object.  So on those sites that have a dozen "side" flash things
in addition to the one I want to see I don't have to wait for
the dozen.

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Today' Crack Smoker

[Rich Thomas]

He's a looser.

--R

On 9/7/10 2:18 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

I'd like to believe that he is a passionate adherent of wacky homonyms:

"I did this for a car that is getting ready too sell and wanted too set off
the car from the heard."

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Van Knutson  wrote:

   

"Alex Chamberlain"




To:
"Mercedes Discussion List"


On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Russ Williams  wrote:
 

Becker Europa Radio

   

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260660626655&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123
 


   

I'd really like to believe that the guy entered a zero too many while
posting his auction and didn't notice.

On the other hand there are plenty of people who think that any used
part is worth its weight in gold if it came out of a Mercedes.  I see
this all the time on Craigslist with people trying to sell battered
sets of 300E pancake wheels for $500.

Alex


The price would be about right if the Becker came in a handsome W123
carrying case.

DBV, information minister






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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump

[Peter Frederick]

If you think that one is tight, try the W124 300D -- about half the space 
between rad and bolt

Peter

-Original Message-
>From: WILTON 
>Sent: Sep 7, 2010 2:19 PM
>To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump
>
>'Been concerned 'bout that; thanks for the cardboard tip.
>
>Wilton
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Alex Chamberlain" 
>To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:45 PM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump
>
>
>On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Peter Frederick  
>wrote:
>> On my 300D, there is a pair of raised ridges on the bearing housing. Bend 
>> a
>> stiff wire that fits into the holes in the fan housing and use those two
>> ridges to hold the wire while unscrewing the 8mm bolt from the hub. Should
>> be fairly easy with a short piece of pipe over the 8mm Allen key, which is
>> the way I do it. You will have to use both hands to unscrew the bolt.
>>
>
>I'd go a step further than Peter and make a ratcheting tight-clearance
>Allen wrench by cutting an inch off the 8mm key and holding it in a
>GearWrench.  Otherwise you are sure to bang the radiator at some point
>while repositioning the wrench for the next rotation.  Damage can be
>mitigated by putting a couple of sheets of cardboard between you and
>the radiator, but why take the chance?
>
>Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Europa

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Oh boy... its no surprise to hear a comment like this from you.

Have you bothered comparing them to anything else built in the 1960s?

Jaime


On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 5:53 PM,   wrote:
> I sold a working Europa that was OE in a '68 911 to a friend in the
> restoration business in PA a while back for a hundred bucks. Original papers 
> etc.
> Just the ticket for a resto.
>
> Those old Beckers are nothing special.
>
> RLE
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Virus attack on the Information minister

[Curt Raymond]

There is a positive side to the reinstall, you know you're on a good clean OS 
so it'll run fast and act nice for awhile.

In the classroom I need to reinstall Windows about twice a year, the systems 
slow down massively. I *think* it has to do with constantly uninstalling and 
reinstalling software. Thats on a weekly basis in there. My guess is the 
uninstallers don't always do a fantastic job and the registry ends up with 
errors. The machine can correct for that for some time but eventually it hits a 
tipping point and things slow down.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:09:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Van Knutson 
To: mercedes okiebenz 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Virus attack on the Information minister
Message-ID: <330544.91956...@web35804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

"Jim Cathey" 




To: 
"Mercedes Discussion List" 


> Any [antivirus] suggestions out there?

Linux.? Mac OS X.? No Microsoft anything on your machine.

-- Jim

*
I
 am an old Mac man.? My marriage to Windows is strictly of the shotgun 
variety.? Too many things not ported to apple anymore.? My Strato-Matic 
baseball game dropping Mac about 5 or 6 yrs ago was the last straw.? 
Can't be w/o my Strat baseball game, can I?
?
DBV, information minister
?
?
PS--thanks
 to ALL listers for feedback re: virus attack.? I guess reformatting was
 a bit hamfisted. Should have let a cooler head prevail not hit panic 
button and tried to eliminate it by alternate AV means.?? Live + learn, 
eh?



  
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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump

[WILTON]

'Been concerned 'bout that; thanks for the cardboard tip.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Chamberlain" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump


On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Peter Frederick  
wrote:
On my 300D, there is a pair of raised ridges on the bearing housing. Bend 
a

stiff wire that fits into the holes in the fan housing and use those two
ridges to hold the wire while unscrewing the 8mm bolt from the hub. Should
be fairly easy with a short piece of pipe over the 8mm Allen key, which is
the way I do it. You will have to use both hands to unscrew the bolt.



I'd go a step further than Peter and make a ratcheting tight-clearance
Allen wrench by cutting an inch off the 8mm key and holding it in a
GearWrench.  Otherwise you are sure to bang the radiator at some point
while repositioning the wrench for the next rotation.  Damage can be
mitigated by putting a couple of sheets of cardboard between you and
the radiator, but why take the chance?

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Today' Crack Smoker

[andrew strasfogel]

I'd like to believe that he is a passionate adherent of wacky homonyms:

"I did this for a car that is getting ready too sell and wanted too set off
the car from the heard."

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Van Knutson  wrote:

> "Alex Chamberlain" 
>
>
>
>
> To:
> "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Russ Williams  wrote:
> > Becker Europa Radio
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260660626655&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123
> >
> >
>
> I'd really like to believe that the guy entered a zero too many while
> posting his auction and didn't notice.
>
> On the other hand there are plenty of people who think that any used
> part is worth its weight in gold if it came out of a Mercedes.  I see
> this all the time on Craigslist with people trying to sell battered
> sets of 300E pancake wheels for $500.
>
> Alex
>
> 
> The price would be about right if the Becker came in a handsome W123
> carrying case.
>
> DBV, information minister
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

[John Freer]

Yep. I was just taking poetic license as I heard an MB salesman use that term!

John

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Alex Chamberlain
 wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:42 PM, John Freer  wrote:
>> Have an 05 with 52K miles. 35 mpg road, 25 town and 0-60 in 6.7
>> seconds...best diesel MB ever made!
>>
>> 05 is the last year of the straight 6 and doesn't have a chemical
>> plant under it.
>
> Chemical plant?  You mean the AdBlue system?
>
> Alex
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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:42 PM, John Freer  wrote:
> Have an 05 with 52K miles. 35 mpg road, 25 town and 0-60 in 6.7
> seconds...best diesel MB ever made!
>
> 05 is the last year of the straight 6 and doesn't have a chemical
> plant under it.

Chemical plant?  You mean the AdBlue system?

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Peter Frederick  wrote:
> On my 300D, there is a pair of raised ridges on the bearing housing.  Bend a
> stiff wire that fits into the holes in the fan housing and use those two
> ridges to hold the wire while unscrewing the 8mm bolt from the hub.  Should
> be fairly easy with a short piece of pipe over the 8mm Allen key, which is
> the way I do it.  You will have to use both hands to unscrew the bolt.
>

I'd go a step further than Peter and make a ratcheting tight-clearance
Allen wrench by cutting an inch off the 8mm key and holding it in a
GearWrench.  Otherwise you are sure to bang the radiator at some point
while repositioning the wrench for the next rotation.  Damage can be
mitigated by putting a couple of sheets of cardboard between you and
the radiator, but why take the chance?

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

[Van Knutson]

"Craig McCluskey" 




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On Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:44:41 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:

>   I wonder what is wrong with it.

The listing says, "AC works great blows ice cold air ..."

No wonder.


Craig


Must be talking about my car, except the only time my AC blows "ice cold air" 
is in January.
 
DBV, also heater blows "oven hot air" in August information minister



  
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Re: [MBZ] Today' Crack Smoker

[Van Knutson]

"Alex Chamberlain" 




To: 
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On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Russ Williams  wrote:
> Becker Europa Radio
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260660626655&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123
>
>

I'd really like to believe that the guy entered a zero too many while
posting his auction and didn't notice.

On the other hand there are plenty of people who think that any used
part is worth its weight in gold if it came out of a Mercedes.  I see
this all the time on Craigslist with people trying to sell battered
sets of 300E pancake wheels for $500.

Alex
 

The price would be about right if the Becker came in a handsome W123 carrying 
case.
 
DBV, information minister





  
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Re: [MBZ] 2 quick questions ??

[Peter Frederick]

Battery should be the same size. 

As for what to look out for, the usual:  Bad AC, worn out links in the rear, 
worn out steering (pretty much a given above 170k miles), bad tranny.  Inspect 
the upper spring mounts for rust, will require using a lift.  If any present, 
pass.  Having a spring mount fail on the highway is not a fun thing to do.  

I believe this is a serious issue in Canada and the Salt Belt, less of a 
problem elsewhere, but look.

Peter


-Original Message-
>From: E M 
>Sent: Sep 7, 2010 1:15 PM
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>Subject: [MBZ]  2 quick questions ??
>
>Hi Everyone,
>
>Two quick questions.
>
>Does anyone know offhand the case size for the battery in an '88 300E ?
>Popped into a parts store, and they only had listings for the S Class.  I
>know the 3.0 litre engine is the same size, but I wasn't sure if the
>battery, and battery shelf in both cars are the same?  Their files showed a
>case size #48 for the S Class.  Same for the E Class ?
>
>Anyone know of anything to watch out for with the previous generation of E
>Class sedans?  Can't remember the code name.  From 2000 or something, to
>2009.  I know rust was an issue with many.  Any other design faults you guys
>know about?  Are they best avoided all together?
>
>Thanks everyone.
>
>Ed
>300E
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[MBZ] 2 quick questions ??

[E M]

Hi Everyone,

Two quick questions.

Does anyone know offhand the case size for the battery in an '88 300E ?
Popped into a parts store, and they only had listings for the S Class.  I
know the 3.0 litre engine is the same size, but I wasn't sure if the
battery, and battery shelf in both cars are the same?  Their files showed a
case size #48 for the S Class.  Same for the E Class ?

Anyone know of anything to watch out for with the previous generation of E
Class sedans?  Can't remember the code name.  From 2000 or something, to
2009.  I know rust was an issue with many.  Any other design faults you guys
know about?  Are they best avoided all together?

Thanks everyone.

Ed
300E
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[MBZ] 2 quick questions ??

[E M]

Hi Everyone,

Two quick questions.

Does anyone know offhand the case size for the battery in an '88 300E ?
Popped into a parts store, and they only had listings for the S Class.  I
know the 3.0 litre engine is the same size, but I wasn't sure if the
battery, and battery shelf in both cars are the same?  Their files showed a
case size #48 for the S Class.  Same for the E Class ?

Anyone know of anything to watch out for with the previous generation of E
Class sedans?  Can't remember the code name.  From 2000 or something, to
2009.  I know rust was an issue with many.  Any other design faults you guys
know about?  Are they best avoided all together?

Thanks everyone.

Ed
300E
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Virus attack on the Information minister

[Van Knutson]

"Jim Cathey" 




To: 
"Mercedes Discussion List" 


> Any [antivirus] suggestions out there?

Linux.  Mac OS X.  No Microsoft anything on your machine.

-- Jim

*
I am an old Mac man.  My marriage to Windows is strictly of the shotgun 
variety.  Too many things not ported to apple anymore.  My Strato-Matic 
baseball game dropping Mac about 5 or 6 yrs ago was the last straw.  Can't be 
w/o my Strat baseball game, can I?
 
DBV, information minister
 
 
PS--thanks to ALL listers for feedback re: virus attack.  I guess reformatting 
was a bit hamfisted. Should have let a cooler head prevail not hit panic button 
and tried to eliminate it by alternate AV means.   Live + learn, eh?



  
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Re: [MBZ] 140 ball joints

[Peter Frederick]

I suspect they are like the W124 ones -- pinch bolt on the shaft in the 
steering knuckle, press into the control arm.

Peter

-Original Message-
>From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>
>Sent: Sep 7, 2010 7:14 AM
>To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] 140 ball joints
>
>The Quantum was like that.  R&R 3 bolts and you had a new ball joint 
>in.  I thought it was GREAT!
>
>>  Am I seeing things or do the ball joints on the 140 just need to be 
>>unbolted to be replaced?  Looks like its just got a big stem that 
>>slides into a hole held on with a big bolt.  If this is true, why 
>>the heck didnt they make all the cars this way??
>>
>>--
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>>  95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic,
>>  91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
>>  85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D,
>>http://www.okiebenz.com
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Parenthood

[R A Bennell]

Formula works fine too. We bought a lot of those pink cans - Enfalac I think.

Randy

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Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 1:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parenthood


Amen -
My wife fed four kids, you sure can tell when they start on solid food
though!

On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> Rolf wrote:
> > YMMV with formula.
>
> That's why I don't remember that smell.
> Mama did all the feeding, from herself.
> Mama's milk is the best - odorless, fattening, etc.
> mao
>
OK Don
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Re: [MBZ] Parenthood

[Walt Zarnoch]

I agree, the point I was trying to make is people should avoid soy
formula in favor of milk based whenever possible, not that you must
avoid all formula.

Walt

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Rolf  wrote:
> Of course. There are instances when mothers need to use formula but in
> general I think everyone agrees its best avoided.
>
> -Rolf
>
> On 09/07/2010 10:42 AM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:
>>
>> Rather have spoiled butter than Tofu and an estrogenized tot...
>>
>> Walt
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Rolf  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>  Mommas milk makes the spoiled butter :D
>>>
>>> -Rolf
>>>
>>> On 9/4/2010 9:49 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
>>>

 Rolf wrote:

>
> YMMV with formula.
>

 That's why I don't remember that smell.
 Mama did all the feeding, from herself.
 Mama's milk is the best - odorless, fattening, etc.
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] 140 ball joints

[Curt Raymond]

First ball joint I ever replaced was on a Rabbit, as you say super easy. Second 
(the only other one) was my '83 240D, it was the upper though so I just 
replaced the UCA which was also relatively easy. I'm sure its harder on a 300D 
because of more stuff in that area on the inside...

-Curt

Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 07:14:24 -0500
From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>
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The Quantum was like that.  R&R 3 bolts and you had a new ball joint 
in.  I thought it was GREAT!

>  Am I seeing things or do the ball joints on the 140 just need to be 
>unbolted to be replaced?  Looks like its just got a big stem that 
>slides into a hole held on with a big bolt.  If this is true, why 
>the heck didnt they make all the cars this way??
>
>--
>Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>  95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic,
>  91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
>  85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D,
>http://www.okiebenz.com


  
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Re: [MBZ] M1 atf $17 for 3 quarts

[Curt Raymond]

In my area Advance Auto is where the employees too dumb to work at Autozone 
go...

Needless to say even with the discount I'll pay extra and shop at my local Car 
Quest where the employees aren't dumber than a box of hammers.

Speaking of which I need to change the motorcycle's oil and finally cure the 
massive leak on the left side cover. Oh and replace the clutch cable that 
snapped yesterday. Fortunately it broke just before we left to come home. We'd 
done 120 miles in a big group and had a party, my wife's bike wouldn't start 
(starter button got cockeyed in its bore and won't make contact) so some guys 
helped me bump start it. I get back to my bike, pull back the clutch lever and 
*TWANG* it snapped right at the lever. If I hadn't had to go through town with 
many stops I might have tried it. Instead we doubled up on my wife's little 
Kawi 454 to go home and get the Ranger.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 22:12:06 -0600
From: Craig 
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] M1 atf $17 for 3 quarts
Message-ID: <20100906221206.71531d92.diese...@pisquared.net>
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On Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:57:35 -0400 Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Buy 3 quarts of M1 ATF for $26.97 at
> http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/
> 
> and enter coupon code BIG10 for $10 off, and select pickup at your
> local store. You could also get $25 off on 7 quarts with BIG25.

Nice discount. We don't have Advance Auto here, unfortunately, only
Autozone.


Craig


  
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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump

[WILTON]

BTW, just found that the belt idler spring has broken and is missing; water 
pump sorta hard to turn, but not as hard as I expected.


Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump



Don't see, yet, how I can easily and "safely" hold the fan


Don't tell anybody, but I padded the jaws of some vise-grips
and clamped to the pulley/belt.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Parenthood

[Rolf]

Of course. There are instances when mothers need to use formula but in 
general I think everyone agrees its best avoided.


-Rolf

On 09/07/2010 10:42 AM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:

Rather have spoiled butter than Tofu and an estrogenized tot...

Walt

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Rolf  wrote:
   

  Mommas milk makes the spoiled butter :D

-Rolf

On 9/4/2010 9:49 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
 

Rolf wrote:
   

YMMV with formula.
 

That's why I don't remember that smell.
Mama did all the feeding, from herself.
Mama's milk is the best - odorless, fattening, etc.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump

[WILTON]

'Been thinking 'bout holding the pulley.  That'll do it; thanks.

Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump



Don't see, yet, how I can easily and "safely" hold the fan


Don't tell anybody, but I padded the jaws of some vise-grips
and clamped to the pulley/belt.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Parenthood

[Walt Zarnoch]

Rather have spoiled butter than Tofu and an estrogenized tot...

Walt

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Rolf  wrote:
>  Mommas milk makes the spoiled butter :D
>
> -Rolf
>
> On 9/4/2010 9:49 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
>>
>> Rolf wrote:
>>>
>>> YMMV with formula.
>>
>> That's why I don't remember that smell.
>> Mama did all the feeding, from herself.
>> Mama's milk is the best - odorless, fattening, etc.
>> mao
>>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 stuck fuel sending unit

[andrew strasfogel]

For awhile I could boast that the car had a fuel economy
approaching infinity mpg.



On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:29 PM, OK Don  wrote:

> 3. - Your roads are too smooth to provide the vibration needed to get the
> float to follow the fuel level. You need to drive in Oklahoma once in a
> while :-)
>
> I try to keep track of the miles, and don't trust the gauges on these older
> cars.
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 7:04 PM, andrew strasfogel  >wrote:
>
> > The fuel gauge in my 1985 300TD read "full" for 2 weeks while the miles
> > piled on. For this period, the gauge returned to zero with the  engine
> off
> > and then steadfastly remained pinned at F with nary a flicker as the
> miles
> > accumulated and the days marched by.  Finally, at 353 miles I broke  down
> > and filled up the car with 14.6 gallons of diesel.  That was Saturday.
> >  Today (Monday), with 150 miles having passed without a change in the
> > gauge,
> > bingo! - I noticed that the gauge had moved down to 3/4 full.  Since
> then,
> > the gauge has reflected normal fuel consumption and  now reads < 1/2
> full.
> >  Two questions:
> >
> > 1) Does this erratic behavior reflect a faulty gauge or stuck sending
> unit?
> >
> > 2) if the latter, how do I remove the sending unit to inspect and perhaps
> > unjam or clean it?
>
>
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> 1992 300D 2.5T
> 1990 300D 2.5T
> 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager
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Re: [MBZ] Parenthood

[Rolf]

 Mommas milk makes the spoiled butter :D

-Rolf

On 9/4/2010 9:49 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

Rolf wrote:

YMMV with formula.

That's why I don't remember that smell.
Mama did all the feeding, from herself.
Mama's milk is the best - odorless, fattening, etc.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Today' Crack Smoker

[Rolf]

 If you look at his other auctions he must have typoed.

Check this one 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-240D-300D-300TD-W123-Rim-Wheel-Set-W126-/230518044491?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35abf2374b#ht_500wt_1182 



On 9/6/2010 3:05 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Russ Williams  wrote:

Becker Europa Radio
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260660626655&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123



I'd really like to believe that the guy entered a zero too many while
posting his auction and didn't notice.

On the other hand there are plenty of people who think that any used
part is worth its weight in gold if it came out of a Mercedes.  I see
this all the time on Craigslist with people trying to sell battered
sets of 300E pancake wheels for $500.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Europa

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 2:53 PM,   wrote:
> I sold a working Europa that was OE in a '68 911 to a friend in the
> restoration business in PA a while back for a hundred bucks. Original papers 
> etc.
> Just the ticket for a resto.
>

Your 911 came with an OE Lotus Europa?  Shouldn't that have been the
other way around---every Europa came with a free Porsche so you'd have
something to drive while the Lotus is in the shop?

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL trirsty

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Good idea - Wilton you need to look for the white residue left behind
from the coolant.

A couple years ago I was at local FLAPS one evening, fellow in a late
90's S class limped in with an overheating engine.  After the store
clerk gave up on helping him, I found the broken hose in about 30
seconds by following the traces of white.

-Max 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL trirsty

I had a bad head gasket on an 84 SD which only leaked out of the side of
the engine; the only traces were a couple of faint vertical whitish
yellow "stripes" on the block just above the oil pan (not the sump pan).
I think the stripes were deposits left behind when all the water
evaporated from the coolant.


--
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On Sep 5, 2010, at 16:21, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> My '81 300TD with a bad headgasket didn't make any white smoke at
startup. If you sat with it idling in the cold you'd lose yourself in
the white smokescreen though... That car would even hydro-lock if you
left the radiator cap on when you parked it...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 10:15:58 -0400
> From: "WILTON" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL trirsty
> Message-ID: 
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> reply-type=response
> 
> No white smoke on startup and during warmup.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Peter Frederick" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL trirsty
> 
> 
>> Watch for white smoke on startup -- when cold, the water in the 
>> coolant will make copious white smoke until the engine warms up.
>> 
>> Check for cold pressure in the coolant tank, also traces of oil
>> 
>> And check for coolant in the AC drains -- it's not impossible for the

>> heater core or header to leak.
>> 
>> Check weep hole on the bottom of the water pump (a huge pain on that
>> car) since it may only leak while running down the road.
>> 
>> 
>> Peter
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

That would work.  I bought a cheap strap wrench at HF and it did the job
just fine.  This work is a lot easier once you've gotten the radiator
out of the way.

-Max 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump

> Don't see, yet, how I can easily and "safely" hold the fan

Don't tell anybody, but I padded the jaws of some vise-grips and clamped
to the pulley/belt.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

[Mitch Haley]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 That does not seem like a lot to me but then again I am used to old cars.



25k a year is not a lot of miles for somebody who bought a new diesel, but a not 
quite six year old car with 140k on the clock should go for bottom feeder prices 
(Mitch money?) IMO. The asking price is still more than 1/4 of new.


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Re: [MBZ] 140 ball joints

[Dieselhead]

The Quantum was like that.  R&R 3 bolts and you had a new ball joint 
in.  I thought it was GREAT!


 Am I seeing things or do the ball joints on the 140 just need to be 
unbolted to be replaced?  Looks like its just got a big stem that 
slides into a hole held on with a big bolt.  If this is true, why 
the heck didnt they make all the cars this way??


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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

 That does not seem like a lot to me but then again I am used to 
old cars.


On 9/6/2010 11:20 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 I wonder what is wrong with it.



140,000 miles might have something to do with it.

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No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3117 - Release Date: 09/06/10 
01:35:00



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Re: [MBZ] Virus attack on the Information minister

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

MS Security Essentials - THAT is what I was trying to recommend!

-Max 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 3:21 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Virus attack on the Information minister

I have been using MS Security Essentials on the Windows machines since
it came out, and have not "caught" anything. It did alert me to the
virus on the okiebenz.com site.
Another good practice to avoid matware if you frequently browse likely
infected sites, is to run a virtual machine for that browsing with a
differencing disk If you get infected, just restart without saving the
changes.

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Rick Knoble 
wrote:

>
> I forgot to add that all of my machines are set up with an Owner 
> account as the administrator, with separate accounts for other users 
> that are NOT administrators, (including my own account). I also set up

> guest accounts for any company that requires the use of a computer. 
> This practice saved me a lot of work on at least one occasion. I was 
> surfing the web and picked up a virus on my account (Avira virus alert

> popped up, ect.). I immediately shut the machine down and re-booted 
> into the administrator account and did a virus and malware scan. I 
> removed the bad stuff and logged back in to my primary 
> (non-administrator) account. For some reason, I had no sound and no 
> internet, so I logged back into the admin account and backed up any 
> important files in my non-admin account. I then deleted the non-admin 
> account and re-booted the computer. I logged in to the admin account 
> again, created a new non-admin account for myself, logged into the 
> newly recreated non-admin account and restored the backups. I took
less time (nearly) than typing this. It took WAY less time than
formatting and rebuild from scratch.
> Just another thought.
>
> Rick



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Re: [MBZ] Virus attack on the Information minister

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I work with folks who do nothing but computers, and they endorse the Microsoft 
versions for computer security (Windows Firewall, Windows Defender) among 
others.  Free, and don't slow down your Windows operating system nearly as much 
as the paid products.

My personal theory is that majority of malware is written by the same folks who 
sell the antivirus software, which maintains full employment in that industry.  
MS, on the other hand, already has your money and distro's the security 
software for free.

-Max

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On 
Behalf Of Van Knutson
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 8:38 AM
To: mercedes okiebenz
Subject: [MBZ] Virus attack on the Information minister

My computer was attacked over the weekend by the most tenacious malware I have 
seen to date. It locks down your computer--you can't open docurment, video, 
IE, nothing--telling you your computer is infected and tries to direct you to a 
fake antivirus site where if you buy their fake antivirus software they will 
"fix" the problem they caused to begin with.  They wanted $49.95!  Just pure 
extortion.
 
  I had to wipe my hard drive and reinstall useless Windows.  I had legit 
antivirus security (Shield Deluxe), but it was obviously defeated.  After 
reinstalling, I now have no internet or sound--have to install drivers.  I am 
typing this from work :).
 
   I will be shlepping my CPU to Todd's house to work on installing drivers so 
I can get my computer back the way it used to be.   grr.
 
Anyway, it is my intent to audition yet another antivirus program.   My first 
program was compromised--Zone Alarm, and now my second one--Shield Deluxe 
Pro--went down as well.
 
Any suggestions out there?  I seem to get 6 months to a year out of a security 
suite before it gets penetrated.  Is this acceptable loss, as they say in the 
military? I understand this version of ransomware is a particularly bad one.  I 
have about   200 days left on my Shield license but I am going to move on.  It 
has already been found wanting.
 
I looked up antivirus reviews on PC mag and CNET and the general consensus is 
BitDefinder and Norton, which--according to them--has repaired its subpar 
reputation in the last two yrs to become a very good system
 
Thoughts? I have no antivirus software on board at the moment which will not be 
an issue until I get my internet connectivity back.
 
DBV, information minister


  
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[MBZ] O/T FLAPS

[pm7088]

I've been using AMAZON to source parts lately with very good results. 

My NEW starter {Made in China} for my PowerChoke was $97 + $12 shipping. That 
was a very good price! The starter works fine, even had a printout of it's 
current draw and other information. 


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Re: [MBZ] OT electrical connection for outboard motor

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Motor pretty much required at the busy launch that we typically use,
which has a fairly tight little quay and sometimes a line of boats
waiting to be recovered.  Once I have a fathometer installed, I want to
try the launch at the back of our neighborhood, which is on a shallow
creek with narrow channel.

I ended up getting some proper marine grade 6 gauge cable at West
Marine, and then made a crude junction block just inside the hull.
Looks very clean, but will take a little more time to take the motor off
now.  6 gauge really is too heavy, I will replace with 8 gauge next
time.

This boat had been in outside storage for about four years, and it was
filthy inside and out, but several days of cleaning fixed that.  I also
replaced both the main halyard and the jib halyard, playing bosun' mate
for a day, whipping the ends of the lines with needle and heavy carpet
thread.  Never did put the boat in the water as entire family came up on
the binnacle list (sick list for you land lubbers) Monday so we just
took it easy around the house.  I blame my daughter - she brought home
some new bugs from her pre-school which started last week (take note
Donald, more joys of parenthood to look forward to :) ).

-Max

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 8:17 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT electrical connection for outboard motor

Sailboat? Why have a motor? Mine don't.  But then again, mine are only
16'
and 17'  

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310  wrote:

> I'm getting our sailboat ship-shape after four years of outdoor 
> storage, and the battery cable that runs from the battery (inside the 
> hull) to the outboard motor needs to be replaced.


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