Re: [MBZ] MORE 6 speed manual trans for 300D

2011-06-02 Thread Fmiser
   Alex Chamberlain wrote:
  
   Hmm, interesting.  Then what I want is a 5-speed where the
   top and bottom ratios are the same as the automatic's, with
   the gears in between spaced appropriately closer together.
    Mitch?

  Mitch wrote:
 
  Didn't I post the ratios on the 2.3-16 5sp? 4.08 first, 1.00
  5th IIRC.

 Alex Chamberlain wrote:
 
 Yeah, that would do it, but how likely am I to find one of
 those used? I want another $200 unbreakable GM tranny. ;)


Can't say it will help you find a $200 transmission, but I have a fun toy. 

A spreadsheet for comparing transmission ratios, differential
ratios, tire sizes, roadspeed, and engine RPM 

Filename:
transmission+speed_1.1.ods - OpenOffice native
transmission+speed_1.1.xls.zip - Microsoft export 

site:
http://www.host-a.net/fmiser

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] MORE 6 speed manual trans for 300D

2011-06-02 Thread Jim Cathey

Perhaps you need to change the diff gears ---


Yup!  But I don't have the 'right' one.  I have the original
from the '84 2.2 donor car, but that's not the ratio that MB
used for the real 2.5 manuals.  So, do I want to do all that
work for a potentially sub-optimal result, or wait/pay for the
right one?  Dilemma!

...or drop in a turbo engine. I'm sure a 2.5 turbo has enough torque 
at 2500rpm to push a W201 down the road at 70mph.


The 2.5 has enough torque.  It's just that every gear feels
'wrong' somehow.  I can drive a stick, reasonably well as
I have been doing so since about age 12, but this thing
still has me bucking and snorting, surging, etc. like my
wife, who resents having had to learn a stickshift (because
of our truck) and never fails to point that out to me.  (How
good can you ever get at something you hate?)

It finally sank in that the rear end ratio is wrong so I've
been envisioning a shorter gearing, which to my mind seems
to fix everything I don't like.  'Diesel' torque (this car
drives like a puny gasser), shift points at slower road speeds,
and a need to use fifth gear on the highway.  Yeah, baby!

-- Jim



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[MBZ] I messed up

2011-06-02 Thread Hans Neureiter
When jacking up the 300SD lifting at the center of the crossmember behind
the oil pan, the jack slipped and the wood bolster rocked and hit the bottom
of the oil pan causing it to buckle.
It is bent upward about 1/2 inch at the drain plug but didn't crack.
I am concerned how close the oil pump suction is to the bottom. Oil pressure
reads normal.
-- 
Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX
'82 300SD
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) I messed up

2011-06-02 Thread Jim Cathey

It is bent upward about 1/2 inch at the drain plug but didn't crack.
I am concerned how close the oil pump suction is to the bottom. Oil 
pressure

reads normal.


Isn't the pickup a bit on the forward side?
You probably got away with it, but don't let
it happen again!

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) I messed up

2011-06-02 Thread Walt Zarnoch
I'd say you got away with it as well.
There's a 1/2 rubber sucker foot on the bottom of the pickup that
holds the screen in.
I'd replace the pan though, just to be sure.

Walt

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:
 It is bent upward about 1/2 inch at the drain plug but didn't crack.
 I am concerned how close the oil pump suction is to the bottom. Oil
 pressure
 reads normal.

 Isn't the pickup a bit on the forward side?
 You probably got away with it, but don't let
 it happen again!

 -- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] what's with this ad?

2011-06-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
I am frankly surprised that anyone would make such a generalization in this
day and age.

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 I was more concerned about having an Asian as a chauffeur, given my
 anecdotal observations on Asian drivers.  I guess if it was an American kid,
 it would be OK, but if the parents were off the boat, watch out.

 --R


 On 6/1/2011 7:36 PM, Gerry Archer wrote:


 Poppa gives junior his old luxury car to drive in college and buys
 a new one for himself.  Junior puts car up for sale when he graduates.
 Lots of Asians in American colleges.  Might be a very good deal if
 junior had it serviced and repaired regularly.  Bought one  of my Mercedes
 from such a seller.  Of course, that's just a guess about this one.
 Gerry 
 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

 Uh, Asian driver... --R

 On 6/1/2011 11:23 AM, Allan Streib wrote:

 the car comes with a chauffeur?
 http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2379217820.html



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Re: [MBZ] what's with this ad?

2011-06-02 Thread Mitch Haley

andrew strasfogel wrote:

I am frankly surprised that anyone would make such a generalization in this
day and age.


Many Asian immigrants drive like shit.
Some of their offspring drive like shit.
I knew a fairly intelligent college freshman, Caucasian, born and raised in USA, 
who flunked driver's ed twice and then gave up. She would have driven like shit 
if she had a license.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Starts and dies - why?

2011-06-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
Actually, it may have been much more basic than that.  I noticed fuel
pooling in the well on top of the main fuel filter canister.  The 24MM bolt
was in dire need of tightening.  Hopefully this wil lsolve the problem.

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

   meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote:
  
   Rack damper bolt too tight?

  andrew strasfogel wrote:
 
  What's the theory behind this, Max?

 Well, it's the classic symptom of a rack damper bolt that's too
 far in. Why - I don't know.  But any good set of instructions on
 adjusting the bolt will list that symptom as a caution.

 -- Philip


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[MBZ] Rotella in OM-617

2011-06-02 Thread Allan Streib
I have had a long-standing personal policy to not buy Shell fuel or products, 
due to an incident with one of their retail dealers back in 1998.  I recently 
changed oil in my '83 300D and was looking to buy Chevron Delo but the store I 
stopped in didn't have any in stock.  Because I was rather pressed for time and 
didn't want to go running all over town, I bought what they had which was 
Rotella T 15w40 (non-synthetic).

Last winter I was using Mobil-1 for easier low-temp starting, but had noted 
that it needed to be topped up every couple of tankfuls (level falling below 
the ADD mark) which never used to happen with M1.  Also for the past few years, 
with both M1 and Delo, I've had some drips which I believe are from the rear 
seal.

With the Rotella, I have not had to add ANY oil in over 1,500 miles so far, and 
the drips have all but stopped.  I'm fairly pleased despite it being a Shell 
product.

Any other opinions on this oil?

Allan
--
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] what's with this ad?

2011-06-02 Thread Allan Streib
On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 10:51 -0400, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Many Asian immigrants drive like shit. Some of their offspring drive
 like shit. I knew a fairly intelligent college freshman, Caucasian,
 born and raised in USA, who flunked driver's ed twice and then gave
 up. She would have driven like shit if she had a license.

In my experience most people on the road drive like shit, more or less.
Add in conducting phone conversations, texting, laptop-ing, iPad-ing,
eating, shaving, applying makeup, reading the paper are among the things
I've witnessed people doing while operating their car.

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Re: [MBZ] what's with this ad?

2011-06-02 Thread Rich Thomas
Well, as I said it was due to anecdotal observations, honed to a fine 
edge in Houston where we had many types of recent immigrants, whose 
antics were on display for all to see.  My kids went to high schools in 
the Sharpstown area, which is adjacent to the new Chinatown of Houston 
(street signs in Chinese, some in Vietnamese), and I drove through there 
every day, sometimes 2 or 3 times, for 8 years.  One learns.  One day, 
the first day of school, I watched 2 Asian women drop off their kids 
then proceed to get into 3 collisions in the parking lot (one woman had 
2 collisions) in the space of 2 minutes.  My daughter told me that after 
the events, the daughters were going on about how bad their mothers 
drove and were warning the other girls to stay away from Chinese drivers.


I also had a friend whose parents were off-the-boat Chinese, grew up in 
NYC with no car, rarely rode in one, she did not learn to drive until 
after college, at which point I think one's reflexes and general 
awareness of traffic and car behavior and such are too far gone to 
develop successfully.  We talked about that at different times, she was 
even more adamant about the view that Asians (including herself) are bad 
drivers and to be avoided, for those reasons and others, like growing up 
in cultures in which cars were not too prevalent and there was not a 
car mode of behavior or awareness.  (That same thing seemed to apply 
to a lot of the trabajadores in Houston too).


Is it a generalization?  Absolutely.  Is it borne out by anecdotal 
observation?  Absolutely.  Are there valid sociological and cultural 
reasons for it?  Absolutely.  Am I bad for pointing them out?  You decide.


--R

On 6/2/2011 10:20 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

I am frankly surprised that anyone would make such a generalization in this
day and age.

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net  wrote:


I was more concerned about having an Asian as a chauffeur, given my
anecdotal observations on Asian drivers.  I guess if it was an American kid,
it would be OK, but if the parents were off the boat, watch out.

--R


On 6/1/2011 7:36 PM, Gerry Archer wrote:


Poppa gives junior his old luxury car to drive in college and buys
a new one for himself.  Junior puts car up for sale when he graduates.
Lots of Asians in American colleges.  Might be a very good deal if
junior had it serviced and repaired regularly.  Bought one  of my Mercedes
from such a seller.  Of course, that's just a guess about this one.
Gerry 
From: Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net


Uh, Asian driver... --R

On 6/1/2011 11:23 AM, Allan Streib wrote:


the car comes with a chauffeur?
http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2379217820.html


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Re: [MBZ] Rotella in OM-617

2011-06-02 Thread Randy Bennell


I have used it in my 76 300D since I got it. No problems so far.

I did read - and wish I had kept a copy - a review of various oils a 
while back and they were not very enthused with the Rotella. I think 
they suggested that most of the others were better including the no-name 
or house brand at WalMart.


So far I have resisted buying Mobil 1 for the car. I use it in my truck 
but the car is not used at all in the winter and I change oil once each 
year which amounts to about every 3K miles. Not sure there would be any 
significant advantage to a better oil.


Randy

On 02/06/2011 10:40 AM, Allan Streib wrote:

I have had a long-standing personal policy to not buy Shell fuel or products, 
due to an incident with one of their retail dealers back in 1998.  I recently 
changed oil in my '83 300D and was looking to buy Chevron Delo but the store I 
stopped in didn't have any in stock.  Because I was rather pressed for time and 
didn't want to go running all over town, I bought what they had which was 
Rotella T 15w40 (non-synthetic).

Last winter I was using Mobil-1 for easier low-temp starting, but had noted 
that it needed to be topped up every couple of tankfuls (level falling below 
the ADD mark) which never used to happen with M1.  Also for the past few years, 
with both M1 and Delo, I've had some drips which I believe are from the rear 
seal.

With the Rotella, I have not had to add ANY oil in over 1,500 miles so far, and 
the drips have all but stopped.  I'm fairly pleased despite it being a Shell 
product.

Any other opinions on this oil?

Allan
--
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Rotella in OM-617

2011-06-02 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
 With the Rotella, I have not had to add ANY oil in over 1,500 miles so far, 
 and the drips have all but stopped.
 I'm fairly pleased despite it being a Shell product.


IIRC Marshall always recommended Rotella T or Delo 400 for OM61x and
OM60x engines, if you weren't going to run synthetic.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] what's with this ad?

2011-06-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
Your observations, despite being based on personal experience, can be used
as a convenient excuse for scapegoating by others who are less sophisticated
in their views.

About a decade ago I was carpooling with a Korean-born woman who happened to
be a not very good driver but not a bad one, either.  She was driving alone
when an ambulance clipped her while passing.  She claimed there was no
siren, and in any case was in her lane when the collision occurred.  The
policeman who arrived on the scene immediately found her at fault based on
his stereotypes of Asian drivers.  He said we don't drive like that in this
country.  I thought that was a racist statement and urged her to file a
complaint..  which I doubt she did.

BTW, she was a U.S. citizen.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Well, as I said it was due to anecdotal observations, honed to a fine edge
 in Houston where we had many types of recent immigrants, whose antics were
 on display for all to see.  My kids went to high schools in the Sharpstown
 area, which is adjacent to the new Chinatown of Houston (street signs in
 Chinese, some in Vietnamese), and I drove through there every day, sometimes
 2 or 3 times, for 8 years.  One learns.  One day, the first day of school, I
 watched 2 Asian women drop off their kids then proceed to get into 3
 collisions in the parking lot (one woman had 2 collisions) in the space of 2
 minutes.  My daughter told me that after the events, the daughters were
 going on about how bad their mothers drove and were warning the other
 girls to stay away from Chinese drivers.

 I also had a friend whose parents were off-the-boat Chinese, grew up in NYC
 with no car, rarely rode in one, she did not learn to drive until after
 college, at which point I think one's reflexes and general awareness of
 traffic and car behavior and such are too far gone to develop successfully.
  We talked about that at different times, she was even more adamant about
 the view that Asians (including herself) are bad drivers and to be avoided,
 for those reasons and others, like growing up in cultures in which cars were
 not too prevalent and there was not a car mode of behavior or awareness.
  (That same thing seemed to apply to a lot of the trabajadores in Houston
 too).

 Is it a generalization?  Absolutely.  Is it borne out by anecdotal
 observation?  Absolutely.  Are there valid sociological and cultural reasons
 for it?  Absolutely.  Am I bad for pointing them out?  You decide.

 --R

 On 6/2/2011 10:20 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

 I am frankly surprised that anyone would make such a generalization in
 this
 day and age.

 On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Rich Thomas
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net  wrote:

 I was more concerned about having an Asian as a chauffeur, given my
 anecdotal observations on Asian drivers.  I guess if it was an American
 kid,
 it would be OK, but if the parents were off the boat, watch out.

 --R


 On 6/1/2011 7:36 PM, Gerry Archer wrote:

 Poppa gives junior his old luxury car to drive in college and buys
 a new one for himself.  Junior puts car up for sale when he graduates.
 Lots of Asians in American colleges.  Might be a very good deal if
 junior had it serviced and repaired regularly.  Bought one  of my
 Mercedes
 from such a seller.  Of course, that's just a guess about this one.
 Gerry 
 From: Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net

 Uh, Asian driver... --R

 On 6/1/2011 11:23 AM, Allan Streib wrote:

 the car comes with a chauffeur?
 http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2379217820.html

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Re: [MBZ] Rotella in OM-617

2011-06-02 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Its all I used in all my cars that use dino oil, including my 450SLC 5.0.

Its an excellent oil... and the gallons are really nice to work with!

Jaime


On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 I have had a long-standing personal policy to not buy Shell fuel or
 products, due to an incident with one of their retail dealers back in 1998.
  I recently changed oil in my '83 300D and was looking to buy Chevron Delo
 but the store I stopped in didn't have any in stock.  Because I was rather
 pressed for time and didn't want to go running all over town, I bought what
 they had which was Rotella T 15w40 (non-synthetic).

 Last winter I was using Mobil-1 for easier low-temp starting, but had noted
 that it needed to be topped up every couple of tankfuls (level falling below
 the ADD mark) which never used to happen with M1.  Also for the past few
 years, with both M1 and Delo, I've had some drips which I believe are from
 the rear seal.

 With the Rotella, I have not had to add ANY oil in over 1,500 miles so far,
 and the drips have all but stopped.  I'm fairly pleased despite it being a
 Shell product.

 Any other opinions on this oil?

 Allan
 --
 1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Rotella in OM-617

2011-06-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
Rotella rocks.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
 wrote:
  With the Rotella, I have not had to add ANY oil in over 1,500 miles so
 far, and the drips have all but stopped.
  I'm fairly pleased despite it being a Shell product.
 

 IIRC Marshall always recommended Rotella T or Delo 400 for OM61x and
 OM60x engines, if you weren't going to run synthetic.

 Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Rotella in OM-617

2011-06-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
But how do I measure a quart of oil in the gallon containers that lack the
clear plastic measuring strip on the side of the jug?

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:03 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Rotella rocks.

 On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com
  wrote:

  On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
 wrote:
  With the Rotella, I have not had to add ANY oil in over 1,500 miles so
 far, and the drips have all but stopped.
  I'm fairly pleased despite it being a Shell product.
 

 IIRC Marshall always recommended Rotella T or Delo 400 for OM61x and
 OM60x engines, if you weren't going to run synthetic.

 Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Rotella in OM-617

2011-06-02 Thread Mitch Haley

andrew strasfogel wrote:

But how do I measure a quart of oil in the gallon containers that lack the
clear plastic measuring strip on the side of the jug?


With the car's dipstick? (start adding at the add mark and stop midway between 
add and full)


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Re: [MBZ] Rotella in OM-617

2011-06-02 Thread Allan Streib
Keep an empty quart bottle in the trunk?

Though the Rotella bottles that I bought have such a strip.  As do the
gallon bottles of Chevron Delo 400.

Allan


On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 13:42 -0400, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 But how do I measure a quart of oil in the gallon containers that lack
 the clear plastic measuring strip on the side of the jug?


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Re: [MBZ] what's with this ad?

2011-06-02 Thread Rich Thomas
I have been thinking about this a bit since I wrote that email.  I got 
to thinking about statements such as, Germans like their beer and 
sausage, or Asians like to eat rice, or Redneck goobers like big 
pickup trucks with big tires, or Mexicans like low-riders.  All of 
those statements are generally true based on anecdotal observations, and 
most folks would probably agree with them.  None of them are 
particularly offensive in any regard, so is the criterion whether the 
statement/observation has potential to be offensive, or is it that even 
if offensive it has potential to be used as a convenient excuse for 
scapegoating by others who are less sophisticated in their views (and 
who is to determine who and what is a sophisticated view?)?


I enjoy an enlightening educational discussion.  We might have an 
opportunity or two to have some over beers soon, my boy is moving to DC 
to go to Georgetown School of Medicine and will probably be living 
somewhere near your hood.  Alas he is leaving the SD here.


--R

On 6/2/2011 12:53 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Your observations, despite being based on personal experience, can be used
as a convenient excuse for scapegoating by others who are less sophisticated
in their views.



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Re: [MBZ] Rotella in OM-617

2011-06-02 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
They do have the clear plastic measuring strip on the side!

Jaime



On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:42 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote:

 But how do I measure a quart of oil in the gallon containers that lack the
 clear plastic measuring strip on the side of the jug?

 On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:03 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Rotella rocks.
 
  On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Alex Chamberlain 
 apchamberl...@gmail.com
   wrote:
 
   On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
  wrote:
   With the Rotella, I have not had to add ANY oil in over 1,500 miles so
  far, and the drips have all but stopped.
   I'm fairly pleased despite it being a Shell product.
  
 
  IIRC Marshall always recommended Rotella T or Delo 400 for OM61x and
  OM60x engines, if you weren't going to run synthetic.
 
  Alex
 
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Re: [MBZ] what's with this ad?

2011-06-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
 Sounds like fun- love to meet you both.  We have lots of cheap diesels
around here, besides mine.  I'd be happy to find him one.

BTW, we live near American University (AU), not GU.  Our housing may be
slightly less pricey than Georgetown but not much.  What is he going to do
for living space?

ALS
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 I have been thinking about this a bit since I wrote that email.  I got to
 thinking about statements such as, Germans like their beer and sausage, or
 Asians like to eat rice, or Redneck goobers like big pickup trucks with
 big tires, or Mexicans like low-riders.  All of those statements are
 generally true based on anecdotal observations, and most folks would
 probably agree with them.  None of them are particularly offensive in any
 regard, so is the criterion whether the statement/observation has potential
 to be offensive, or is it that even if offensive it has potential to be used
 as a convenient excuse for scapegoating by others who are less sophisticated
 in their views (and who is to determine who and what is a sophisticated
 view?)?

 I enjoy an enlightening educational discussion.  We might have an
 opportunity or two to have some over beers soon, my boy is moving to DC to
 go to Georgetown School of Medicine and will probably be living somewhere
 near your hood.  Alas he is leaving the SD here.

 --R


 On 6/2/2011 12:53 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

 Your observations, despite being based on personal experience, can be used
 as a convenient excuse for scapegoating by others who are less
 sophisticated
 in their views.


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Re: [MBZ] Rotella in OM-617

2011-06-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
I could swear that mine didn't.  Will double check.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:

 They do have the clear plastic measuring strip on the side!

 Jaime



 On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:42 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  But how do I measure a quart of oil in the gallon containers that lack
 the
  clear plastic measuring strip on the side of the jug?
 
  On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:03 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Rotella rocks.
  
   On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Alex Chamberlain 
  apchamberl...@gmail.com
wrote:
  
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
   wrote:
With the Rotella, I have not had to add ANY oil in over 1,500 miles
 so
   far, and the drips have all but stopped.
I'm fairly pleased despite it being a Shell product.
   
  
   IIRC Marshall always recommended Rotella T or Delo 400 for OM61x and
   OM60x engines, if you weren't going to run synthetic.
  
   Alex
   
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[MBZ] Way OT at this point, Re: what's with this ad?

2011-06-02 Thread Tim C
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 big tires, or Mexicans like low-riders.  All of those statements are
 generally true based on anecdotal observations, and most folks would
 probably agree with them.  None of them are particularly offensive in any

Repeated only because I found it funny and at the same time slightly
relevant. :)

http://mungowitzend.blogspot.com/2011/06/you-are-canadien-not-you-are.html

-Tim
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT at this point, Re: what's with this ad?

2011-06-02 Thread Randy Bennell

At the risk of exposing my red neck, I intend to chime in here.

We are getting a lot of immigrants in our province/city over the past 
few years.


I live near the University of Manitoba, and that appears to attract many 
of them.


Most of them are lousy drivers. I am guessing that many of them have 
never driven before.


They have come from countries where either cars are not owned by the 
common folk or the wealthy have drivers or something because they really 
have no idea how to drive.


Unfortunately, the powers that be are afraid of appearing to be racist 
so they grant driver's licences to people who really are in need of more 
training etc.


They tend to go very slowly, stop when the should not etc. We are 
getting a lot of burka (sp?) clad ladies driving mini-vans and one has 
to wonder how they manage to shoulder check with that outfit on.


I don't think this is racial profiling because it tends to be true 
accross several ethnic groups. They just have no experience driving and 
there appears to be a slow learning curve. They are not kids, but adults 
and they cannot help it but it is dangerous for the rest of us.


Randy who has so far avoided catastrophe!


On 02/06/2011 1:25 PM, Tim C wrote:

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net  wrote:

big tires, or Mexicans like low-riders.  All of those statements are
generally true based on anecdotal observations, and most folks would
probably agree with them.  None of them are particularly offensive in any

Repeated only because I found it funny and at the same time slightly
relevant. :)

http://mungowitzend.blogspot.com/2011/06/you-are-canadien-not-you-are.html

-Tim
knows no hockey, but does know a few Canadians




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Re: [MBZ] Rotella in OM-617

2011-06-02 Thread Max Dillon
Allan, which weight of M1? My NA OM617 used a lot of M1, OM603 uses about one 
quart per 2500 miles, OM606 about one quart per 5000 miles.

Max
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[MBZ] oil shelf life

2011-06-02 Thread Jerry Herrman
I've been told that motor oil has a shelf life of about five years. This by 
someone at the auto parts store. I've come to realize over the years that many 
individuals make statements like this without any evidence to back it up. I 
have no way to know if they are knowledgeable. On some occasions, I realize 
they know less about a topic than I do. Lota myths out there about automobile 
stuff.

Anyway, should I turn over my oil containers to allow what settled to the 
bottom to be re-distributed (like a paint can)?
Do the additives go bad, lose effectiveness, or just plain disappear?
I have a number of quarts of (then) diesel rated oil (cc/cd) purchased on sale 
when I believed I would be changing the oil myself for years to come. Most 
purchased between about 8 and 15 years ago. Then I purchased a set of tires 
with the tantalizing promise of free oil changes for life.That was great until 
the company went out of business.
I wouldn't dare use this in a newer car, but what about an older car?  What 
would you do?

Jerry
82 240D


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Re: [MBZ] I messed up

2011-06-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If its not leaking its most likely just fine.  I have seen them 
pretty banged up and are still fine.


On 6/2/2011 8:41 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote:

When jacking up the 300SD lifting at the center of the crossmember behind
the oil pan, the jack slipped and the wood bolster rocked and hit the bottom
of the oil pan causing it to buckle.
It is bent upward about1/2 inch at the drain plug but didn't crack.
I am concerned how close the oil pump suction is to the bottom. Oil pressure
reads normal.


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Re: [MBZ] Rotella in OM-617

2011-06-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

I run delvac 1300 usually

On 6/2/2011 11:34 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu  wrote:

With the Rotella, I have not had to add ANY oil in over 1,500 miles so far, and 
the drips have all but stopped.
I'm fairly pleased despite it being a Shell product.


IIRC Marshall always recommended Rotella T or Delo 400 for OM61x and
OM60x engines, if you weren't going to run synthetic.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Rotella in OM-617

2011-06-02 Thread G Mann
Like yourself, I have boycotted Shell Rotella, but for another reason.
Everything I have is Diesel and I found that with Rotella I had leaks and
oil usage.  Switched to the new Castrol Diesel rated oil [Tection Extra,
15/40] and those problems went away.

I'm in Arizona so don't deal with sub zero winter temps, instead, summer
ambient temps of 110 F + are normal... Shell doesn't seem to hold up under
that crushing extreme as well as the Castrol.

 FWIW,
Grant...
94 Ford 7.3 [International engine]
97 Ford 7.3 [International engine]
85 Ford 6.9 [International engine]
89 Ford 7.3 [International engine]
82 Mercedes 300D
82 Mercedes 300SD
82 GMC RTS  Detroit Diesel 6V92 TA DDEC
81 GMC RTS  Detroit Diesel 6V92 TA MUI
80 GMC RTS  Detroit Diesel 8V71 NA MUI
88 Suzuki Samauri..with Isuzu Imark diesel engine
Other Diesel power equipment

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 I have had a long-standing personal policy to not buy Shell fuel or
 products, due to an incident with one of their retail dealers back in 1998.
  I recently changed oil in my '83 300D and was looking to buy Chevron Delo
 but the store I stopped in didn't have any in stock.  Because I was rather
 pressed for time and didn't want to go running all over town, I bought what
 they had which was Rotella T 15w40 (non-synthetic).

 Last winter I was using Mobil-1 for easier low-temp starting, but had noted
 that it needed to be topped up every couple of tankfuls (level falling below
 the ADD mark) which never used to happen with M1.  Also for the past few
 years, with both M1 and Delo, I've had some drips which I believe are from
 the rear seal.

 With the Rotella, I have not had to add ANY oil in over 1,500 miles so far,
 and the drips have all but stopped.  I'm fairly pleased despite it being a
 Shell product.

 Any other opinions on this oil?

 Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT at this point, Re: what's with this ad?

2011-06-02 Thread G Mann
I'm to the point where the political correct insult me more than being
called a hillbilly redneck or Birther rightwinger.. stinky diesel
driver. or what ever slang is slung by those flinging such stuff..

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 At the risk of exposing my red neck, I intend to chime in here.

 We are getting a lot of immigrants in our province/city over the past few
 years.

 I live near the University of Manitoba, and that appears to attract many of
 them.

 Most of them are lousy drivers. I am guessing that many of them have never
 driven before.

 They have come from countries where either cars are not owned by the common
 folk or the wealthy have drivers or something because they really have no
 idea how to drive.

 Unfortunately, the powers that be are afraid of appearing to be racist so
 they grant driver's licences to people who really are in need of more
 training etc.

 They tend to go very slowly, stop when the should not etc. We are getting a
 lot of burka (sp?) clad ladies driving mini-vans and one has to wonder how
 they manage to shoulder check with that outfit on.

 I don't think this is racial profiling because it tends to be true accross
 several ethnic groups. They just have no experience driving and there
 appears to be a slow learning curve. They are not kids, but adults and they
 cannot help it but it is dangerous for the rest of us.

 Randy who has so far avoided catastrophe!



 On 02/06/2011 1:25 PM, Tim C wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Rich Thomas
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net  wrote:

 big tires, or Mexicans like low-riders.  All of those statements are
 generally true based on anecdotal observations, and most folks would
 probably agree with them.  None of them are particularly offensive in any

 Repeated only because I found it funny and at the same time slightly
 relevant. :)

 http://mungowitzend.blogspot.com/2011/06/you-are-canadien-not-you-are.html

 -Tim
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT at this point, Re: what's with this ad?

2011-06-02 Thread Mountain Man
Tim C wrote:
 Repeated only because I found it funny and at the same time slightly
 relevant. :)

 http://mungowitzend.blogspot.com/2011/06/you-are-canadien-not-you-are.html

Ya mean the get to the cheddar adv?
I found it funny to look at also.
I couldn't figure it out, but funny.
Everyone else wants to carry on regarding stereotypes, etc.
Oh, well - see the title of the thread, guys - what's with this ad?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Way OT at this point, Re: what's with this ad?

2011-06-02 Thread Mountain Man
I wrote:
 Ya mean the get to the cheddar adv?

...hmmm...
I read the other thread also - my mistake.
I liked the baby face adv off on the side of this link.
Interesting - I don't know what that is a picture of.  A man? A child?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] More info about Air France ocean crash

2011-06-02 Thread Mountain Man
Here are some more articles.

http://www.flyingmag.com/news/air-france-447-was-it-deep-stall

http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1920-full.html

Maybe the re-training against stall is the ticket against this type of faux pas.
My son was saying the real story on the Hudson river airbus was the
computer shut the engines down due to the bird knocking out a sensor
in the engine - not the direct bird hits.  Direct bird hits with
frozen birds is standard testing procedure.
My son also said that boeing test pilots on 777 did not like zero
feedback, and computer cut-out for idiot moves.  I guess the 777 warns
against idiot moves, but lets you do idiot moves, whereas airbus
computer is interface against the pilot and rules against the pilot as
needed.  I think I rather the boeing scheme in glass cockpit scheme.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] More info about Air France ocean crash

2011-06-02 Thread Mountain Man
Peter wrote:
 This report raises another question for me:  Why are we flying commercial
 aircraft carrying passengers with a 9 kph safety margin at altitude?

SNIP

 So much for the computers preventing the pilots from going outside the
 flight envelope, eh?

Evidently, at altitude, there really is less leeway available and
pilots need to be quite careful.  So that might be why the computer
cuts out at that type of margin?

As to computer rules over pilot - I think that is waaay too much
computer control.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] More info about Air France ocean crash

2011-06-02 Thread WILTON

kph?

Wilton

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Peter wrote:

This report raises another question for me: Why are we flying commercial
aircraft carrying passengers with a 9 kph safety margin at altitude?


SNIP


So much for the computers preventing the pilots from going outside the
flight envelope, eh?


Evidently, at altitude, there really is less leeway available and
pilots need to be quite careful.  So that might be why the computer
cuts out at that type of margin?

As to computer rules over pilot - I think that is waaay too much
computer control.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Way OT at this point, Re: what's with this ad?

2011-06-02 Thread Tim C
Baby in army fatigues?  What's not to understand?

I think the sidebar is just decoration, but I can see why the subject would
be confounding out of context.  It was recently revealed that kids prefer
cheese was taken from a kingdom phylum class memory aid.

Munger/Mungowitz/McMunger is chair of the political science department at
Duke; his friend and co-blogger Angus teaches economics at a U in OK.
Munger ran for NC governor a few years ago.  Very funny man, crazy smart,
and also a little crazy.  But really I just brought it up for the stereotype
discussion, since I know we have a number of Canadians, eh. :)

-Tim
On Jun 2, 2011 9:36 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:
 I wrote:
 Ya mean the get to the cheddar adv?

 ...hmmm...
 I read the other thread also - my mistake.
 I liked the baby face adv off on the side of this link.
 Interesting - I don't know what that is a picture of. A man? A child?
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] More info about Air France ocean crash

2011-06-02 Thread Craig
On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:27:03 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 kph?



knots per hour?



 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] More info about Air France ocean crash
 
 
 Peter wrote:
  This report raises another question for me: Why are we flying
  commercial aircraft carrying passengers with a 9 kph safety margin at
  altitude?
 
 SNIP
 
  So much for the computers preventing the pilots from going outside
  the flight envelope, eh?
 
 Evidently, at altitude, there really is less leeway available and
 pilots need to be quite careful.  So that might be why the computer
 cuts out at that type of margin?
 
 As to computer rules over pilot - I think that is waaay too much
 computer control.
 mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] MORE 6 speed manual trans for 300D

2011-06-02 Thread OK Don
Kaleb used to have quite a collection of diff's --- ask him.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:

 Perhaps you need to change the diff gears ---


 Yup!  But I don't have the 'right' one.  I have the original
 from the '84 2.2 donor car, but that's not the ratio that MB
 used for the real 2.5 manuals.  So, do I want to do all that
 work for a potentially sub-optimal result, or wait/pay for the
 right one?  Dilemma!


  ...or drop in a turbo engine. I'm sure a 2.5 turbo has enough torque at
 2500rpm to push a W201 down the road at 70mph.


 The 2.5 has enough torque.  It's just that every gear feels
 'wrong' somehow.  I can drive a stick, reasonably well as
 I have been doing so since about age 12, but this thing
 still has me bucking and snorting, surging, etc. like my
 wife, who resents having had to learn a stickshift (because
 of our truck) and never fails to point that out to me.  (How
 good can you ever get at something you hate?)

 It finally sank in that the rear end ratio is wrong so I've
 been envisioning a shorter gearing, which to my mind seems
 to fix everything I don't like.  'Diesel' torque (this car
 drives like a puny gasser), shift points at slower road speeds,
 and a need to use fifth gear on the highway.  Yeah, baby!

 -- Jim





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1992 300D 2.5T
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1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager
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Re: [MBZ] I messed up

2011-06-02 Thread OK Don
You are lucky - mine was all the way up, the jack slipped when I was letting
it down (jack wheel caught in a crack in the drive), punched a nice big hole
in the bottom of the pan.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote:

 When jacking up the 300SD lifting at the center of the crossmember behind
 the oil pan, the jack slipped and the wood bolster rocked and hit the
 bottom
 of the oil pan causing it to buckle.
 It is bent upward about 1/2 inch at the drain plug but didn't crack.
 I am concerned how close the oil pump suction is to the bottom. Oil
 pressure
 reads normal.
 --
 Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX
 '82 300SD
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[MBZ] OT Two Stroke Oil

2011-06-02 Thread Rick Knoble
I used to use Mobil 1MX2T but it is NLA here in the US. Is there an equivalent 
manufactured by another company? I know there are different standards for air 
cooled vs water-cooled engines...

Rick

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Re: [MBZ] OT Two Stroke Oil

2011-06-02 Thread Mitch Haley

Rick Knoble wrote:

I used to use Mobil 1MX2T but it is NLA here in the US. Is there an equivalent 
manufactured by another company? I know there are different standards for air 
cooled vs water-cooled engines...


Amsoil has a few different 2 stroke oils. I think they run around $8 per quart.
Just don't use the Sabre stuff at 100:1.

If it's for outdoor power equipment, Stihl/Husqvarna/Dolmar/etc synthetic all 
seem fine to me. Most of the Amsoil (except for Sabre) don't have dye in them, 
which is sort of a pain for premix.


Mitch.

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