[MBZ] Detroit CL finds

[Mitch Haley]

420SEL with records $1600:
http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/2620080799.html
Same car, different price???
http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/2610483214.html

$1000 W108:
http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/2582070193.html

$4000 190D barn find (crackhead?)
http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/2583713158.html

This better be a very nice 123 coupe for $7500:
http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/2596289743.html

1996 E300D $4k:
http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/2618274039.html

Is a CLK55AMG worth $9500 with a branded title?
http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/2618714693.html

An AMG ML?
http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/2604840107.html

$1400 '94 E320:
http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/ctd/2621065380.html

350SDL, all diesels burn oil...especially those with a bent rod...
http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/2563974647.html

Cheap SEC, I wish I had a rusty 300SDL to go with it...
http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/2613717300.html

Oh, my. Is that a red 16v? 1985, fenders and back bumper don't look right...
http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/2611366493.html

Would Dan's boy want a clean late W124 gasser?
http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/cto/2572921732.html

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Re: [MBZ] Daughter's new car

[Jim Cathey]

How common is wiring problems in the older cars?  From what I've seen 
wiring

usually lasts the life of the car in older models.  In newer models its
about as good as the wiring harness.


I've never had a wire problem.  1991 is the newest.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Daughter's new car

[Brian Toscano]

How common is wiring problems in the older cars?  From what I've seen wiring
usually lasts the life of the car in older models.  In newer models its
about as good as the wiring harness.


On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

> Don't forget that broken wires in the door accordion joints can also cause
> this problem with a window.
> --
> Max,
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Clutch rod update

[Mountain Man]

Curt wrote:
> You may remember some time ago when I replaced the clutch MC in my '78 240D 
> and the pedal feel got real high and short. So yesterday I converted a 
> new-type clutch rod to an old type by grinding the beanie off the end. 
> Tonight I installed it and it made no difference...
>

My experience with 240D clutch MC is from 2 years ago.  My son and I
spent 6 hours trying to get the MC in so we could bleed and adjust per
instructions.  The critical item lacking was the ability to get the
piston high enough in the cylinder to bleed.  At the time, my son
scolded me for wasting his time - on a lift at the shop where he
works, and said I would do the next install if I did not get an MC
from the dealer.  I got the MC from the dealer and my son did the
work... again.  We installed the MC, pedal movement got us to bleed
port and adjusted like the instructions indicated.  Of course, we did
the MC only and last year did the slave - it was recommended that we
do both at the same time, but...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT: Chicago

[Mountain Man]

--Jim wrote:
> I'll try, but I've never yet been there.  Was through Chitown
> once and stopped to visit, this was before he moved to Oak Park.
> Was moving an (ex-) girlfriend across the country.  Well... that
> was a long time ago...

You older than me?
I'm older than you, I'm sure.
I moved away from Oak Park in 1970 when I started college - that is my vintage.
My vintage is my biggest detraction for employment - still unemployed
and not quite figuring out what civil engineering CAD transfers
toward.  No thanks - I don't want to sell insurance.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Daughter's new car

[Max Dillon]

Don't forget that broken wires in the door accordion joints can also cause this 
problem with a window.
-- 
Max, 
Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] Daughter's new car

[w123wagon]

Still good to take an emory cloth to the contacts. I like to mix and match the 
parts to get the best possible switch. If it's not disconnected for some 
reason, I'm betting the left rear window switch in the center console is the 
culprit. Those center switches are always gross when cars come to me.

Dave

On Sep 27, 2011, at 2:24 PM, MG wrote:

> Yeah but since I have 2 other switches and they both look better then the one 
> that's in there, why bother.
> 
> Manfred
> 
> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:02:07 -0700
> From: Jim Cathey 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re:  Daughter's new car
> 
> 
> > I have a newer switch that we will be trying to see about that.
> 
> The switches are easily disassembled and cleaned.
> 
> -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Daughter's new car

[MG]

Yeah but since I have 2 other switches and they both look better 
then the one that's in there, why bother.


Manfred

Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:02:07 -0700
From: Jim Cathey 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re:  Daughter's new car


> I have a newer switch that we will be trying to see about that.

The switches are easily disassembled and cleaned.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12" PB

[Mitch Haley]

Allan Streib wrote:

I think SSDs are still a component where YGWYPF.  If you cheap out you get slow 
performance and lower reliability.


There aren't that many controller and memory chip makers out there, and firmware 
differences are usually pretty minor. I think the important part is whether the 
firmware is user serviceable, and whether the manufacturer stays on top of 
finding flaws and rewriting the firmware to correct them.


OCZ got a bad rep a year or two ago when their firmware was giving more speed 
and less reliability than other makers using the same Sandforce controller, and 
that particular Sandforce controller chip had its own problems. I suspect Intel 
and Samsung SSDs are still near the top of the heap for reliability.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12" PB

[Allan Streib]

I think SSDs are still a component where YGWYPF.  If you cheap out you get slow 
performance and lower reliability.  The OWC drive had a good review here:

  http://www.storagereview.com/owc_mercury_extreme_pro_ssd_review_120gb

... though I don't know how much a review like that can evaluate longevity.

Allan


On Tuesday, September 27, 2011 11:17 AM, "Greg Fiorentino" 
 wrote:
> Reading the reviews (NewEgg) of SSDs I see a fairly high failure rate.  I
> use a solid state cache with speedboost to get fast reads/writes on my
> ThinkPad, but I still have a conventional HD for storage.  A newer, larger
> HD would probably give you improved speed on your PB.
> 
> Greg

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Re: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12" PB

[Greg Fiorentino]

Reading the reviews (NewEgg) of SSDs I see a fairly high failure rate.  I
use a solid state cache with speedboost to get fast reads/writes on my
ThinkPad, but I still have a conventional HD for storage.  A newer, larger
HD would probably give you improved speed on your PB.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12" PB

Thinking of replacing the hard drive in my 12" PowerBook with an SSD.
Should give me better performance and hopefully longer battery life.

Is this feasible?  Anyone know if SSDs are made with a compatible interface?
Most I've seen are SATA.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12" PB

[Dan Penoff]

I used to be a fan of MacAlly, but after a couple of their external drive 
housings I bought had their interfaces fail, I have gone elsewhere.

Even though they were out of warranty, I went to them to make them aware that I 
had several related failures.

They didn't seem the slightest bit interested in my experiences with their 
products.

Dan

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On Sep 27, 2011, at 12:39 PM, w123wa...@gmail.com wrote:

> 
> 
> Many ways to skin this cat. The solution I used isn't as pretty and offers no 
> protection for the attached drive. If this is only to facilitate the swap I 
> wouldn't worry about speed too much. If you are thinking of having permanent 
> external storage, the Macally (or similar) might be a better choice. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12" PB

[w123wagon]

On Sep 27, 2011, at 9:10 AM, Allan Streib wrote:
> 
>> When I swapped my mini's optical drive for an SSD I used an earlier
>> version of this: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/U3NVSPATA/
> 
> Thanks.  OWS sales support was pointing me towards
> http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Macally/PHR250CC/ which would work, but
> it costs a bit more and doesn't seem as flexible.  On the other hand
> it's Firewire which would be better with the old PB as its USB is
> likely not fast.
> 
> Allan

Many ways to skin this cat. The solution I used isn't as pretty and offers no 
protection for the attached drive. If this is only to facilitate the swap I 
wouldn't worry about speed too much. If you are thinking of having permanent 
external storage, the Macally (or similar) might be a better choice. 

Dave
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Dad's Retirement Hobby?

[Michael Canfield]

Maybe you could spray it with oil or armor all to make the mud come off
easier.

Mike
On Sep 27, 2011 11:35 AM, "Randy Bennell"  wrote:
> On 26/09/2011 6:58 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
>> For the (wo) man who has everything. A very interesting sculpture.
>> Yes, MB content. Sent to me by #2 daughter.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
http://www.giganten-aus-stahl.de/en/vehicles/mercedes-300-slr.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Cool, huh?
>> ___
> I think I will pass on that.
> Would be a devil of a thing to wash after you drove it through some mud!
>
> Randy
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Re: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12" PB

[Dan Penoff]

Carbon Copy Cloner, as someone else already suggested.

Or you could do the target disk mode if you have another Mac and just make a 
disk image of it

MacDan

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On Sep 27, 2011, at 10:44 AM, "Allan Streib"  wrote:

> On Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:38 AM, "Mitch Haley"  
> wrote:
> 
>> How in the world are you supposed to get speeds approaching the limits of 
>> SATA-2
>> through an IDE-PATA interface?
>> Is your PB so old that it's IDE?
> 
> Yeah it's pretty old, a G4 processor.
> 
> Still does what I need it to do though.  Thought an SSD might give it a bit 
> of new life.
> 
> Has an 80GB (upgraded from original 40GB by the PO) hard drive in it.  What 
> I'm not sure about is how I'd go about transferring the contents of the 
> current hard drive to the new one.  I don't have install media for the OS or 
> most of the applications.  If I could get both drives connected I could use 
> dd(1) to clone the hard drive to the SSD
> 
> Allan
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Dad's Retirement Hobby?

[Dan Penoff]

I am wondering how they will get TUV approval...

Dan

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On Sep 27, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

> On 26/09/2011 6:58 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
>> For the (wo) man who has everything.   A very interesting sculpture. Yes, MB 
>> content.  Sent to me by #2 daughter.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.giganten-aus-stahl.de/en/vehicles/mercedes-300-slr.html
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Cool, huh?
>> ___
> I think I will pass on that.
> Would be a devil of a thing to wash after you drove it through some mud!
> 
> Randy
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Re: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12" PB

[Allan Streib]

On Tuesday, September 27, 2011 8:53 AM, w123wa...@gmail.com wrote:

> When I swapped my mini's optical drive for an SSD I used an earlier
> version of this: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/U3NVSPATA/

Thanks.  OWS sales support was pointing me towards
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Macally/PHR250CC/ which would work, but
it costs a bit more and doesn't seem as flexible.  On the other hand
it's Firewire which would be better with the old PB as its USB is
likely not fast.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12" PB

[w123wagon]

When I swapped my mini's optical drive for an SSD I used an earlier version of 
this:
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/U3NVSPATA/

There are cheaper versions from other manufacturer's which do the same thing, I 
believe. I've used it more than I thought I would. Good for testing old drives 
(why do I hang on to so many old drives?), temp. storage, troubleshooting… I'm 
a big fan of Carbon Copy Cloner.

Dave
SoCal

On Sep 27, 2011, at 7:44 AM, Allan Streib wrote:
> ...What I'm not sure about is how I'd go about transferring the contents of 
> the current hard drive to the new one.  I don't have install media for the OS 
> or most of the applications.  If I could get both drives connected I could 
> use dd(1) to clone the hard drive to the SSD
> 
> Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Aligning my new trunk lid.

[Randy Bennell]

On 27/09/2011 3:14 AM, Rolf wrote:

W124.

On 09/26/2011 06:51 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
Is this your 123 or 124?  I don't know about the former, but I have 
put a

junkyard trunklid on a 300E and it took a lot of fiddling with the hinge
bolts to get to sit straight and seal right.

Alex
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The 2X4 spreads out the force of the blow so you don't damage the paint 
or dent it etc.
Tighten the bolts to the point where it does not move all that readily 
and bump it into place. Then tighten the bolts some more.

Faster than trial and error adjustments.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Dad's Retirement Hobby?

[Randy Bennell]

On 26/09/2011 6:58 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
For the (wo) man who has everything.   A very interesting sculpture. 
Yes, MB content.  Sent to me by #2 daughter.





http://www.giganten-aus-stahl.de/en/vehicles/mercedes-300-slr.html 



Cool, huh?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12" PB

[Dan Penoff]

I was going to suggest OWC

You will definitely benefit from longer battery life, however, you have a 
bottleneck with the PATA/EIDE bus in your hardware that will negate some (not 
all) of the speed gains.

MacDan

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On Sep 27, 2011, at 10:34 AM, "Allan Streib"  wrote:

> Hm looks like some googling would have been in order first...
> 
> http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/SSD/OWC/Mercury_Legacy_Pro
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:25 AM, "Allan Streib" 
>  wrote:
>> Thinking of replacing the hard drive in my 12" PowerBook with an SSD.  
>> Should give me better performance and hopefully longer battery life.
>> 
>> Is this feasible?  Anyone know if SSDs are made with a compatible interface? 
>>  Most I've seen are SATA.
>> 
>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12" PB

[Brian Toscano]

I wouldn't dd unless the drives were the same specifications.  You could use
Super Duper or Carbon Copy Cloner to make the copy to an external FireWire
drive.  You can then boot off the FireWire drive to make sure the copy
worked.  Once you know its good, swap the drives.

Brian


On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:

> On Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:38 AM, "Mitch Haley" 
> wrote:
>
> > How in the world are you supposed to get speeds approaching the limits of
> SATA-2
> > through an IDE-PATA interface?
> > Is your PB so old that it's IDE?
>
> Yeah it's pretty old, a G4 processor.
>
> Still does what I need it to do though.  Thought an SSD might give it a bit
> of new life.
>
> Has an 80GB (upgraded from original 40GB by the PO) hard drive in it.  What
> I'm not sure about is how I'd go about transferring the contents of the
> current hard drive to the new one.  I don't have install media for the OS or
> most of the applications.  If I could get both drives connected I could use
> dd(1) to clone the hard drive to the SSD
>
> Allan
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12" PB

[Allan Streib]

On Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:38 AM, "Mitch Haley"  wrote:

> How in the world are you supposed to get speeds approaching the limits of 
> SATA-2
> through an IDE-PATA interface?
> Is your PB so old that it's IDE?

Yeah it's pretty old, a G4 processor.

Still does what I need it to do though.  Thought an SSD might give it a bit of 
new life.

Has an 80GB (upgraded from original 40GB by the PO) hard drive in it.  What I'm 
not sure about is how I'd go about transferring the contents of the current 
hard drive to the new one.  I don't have install media for the OS or most of 
the applications.  If I could get both drives connected I could use dd(1) to 
clone the hard drive to the SSD

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12" PB

[Brian Toscano]

What are your storage needs and what is the transfer speed of the ATA/PATA
interface in the PB.  Max is 133MB/s which is faster than most mechanical
laptop drives.  Upgrading your existing hard drive to another mechanical one
may be the most cost effective.  Depends on what you're using the laptop
for.


On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Allan Streib wrote:
>
>> Thinking of replacing the hard drive in my 12" PowerBook with an SSD.
>>  Should give me better performance and hopefully longer battery life.
>>
>> Is this feasible?  Anyone know if SSDs are made with a compatible
>> interface?  Most I've seen are SATA.
>>
>
> All I've seen were SATA-II or SATA-III. Few of them are faster than the
> SATA-II interface. I guess it mainly depends on whether your PB is SATA or
> SCSI, but I doubt it's SCSI. There is also the distinction between 1.8" and
> 2.5" drives, make sure you get the right size, but most are 2.5".
>
> I've got an extra Corsair Nova 64. It's a refurb'd warranty replacement
> that I never unboxed, having replaced it with a new one before it arrived.
> 64GB are cheap, but not everybody can live with one that small. I was using
> it in a 17" notebook with two drives, booting from the 64GB and storing
> large files on the 640GB HDD.
>
> Whatever you get, take a look at the idle wattage. Some of them can draw
> over a watt at idle, which is as bad as a 5400rpm HDD, while some of them
> draw practically nothing unless you're writing to them.
>
>
> Mitch.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12" PB

[Mitch Haley]

Allan Streib wrote:

Hm looks like some googling would have been in order first...

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/SSD/OWC/Mercury_Legacy_Pro


How in the world are you supposed to get speeds approaching the limits of SATA-2
through an IDE-PATA interface?
Is your PB so old that it's IDE?

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Re: [MBZ] Daughter's new car

[Jim Cathey]

Why is it that your replies almost always say (spam?) in the subject 
line?


It might be an editorial comment by my ISP.  I forget to
trim it off when I reply.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12" PB

[Mitch Haley]

Allan Streib wrote:

Thinking of replacing the hard drive in my 12" PowerBook with an SSD.  Should 
give me better performance and hopefully longer battery life.

Is this feasible?  Anyone know if SSDs are made with a compatible interface?  
Most I've seen are SATA.


All I've seen were SATA-II or SATA-III. Few of them are faster than the SATA-II 
interface. I guess it mainly depends on whether your PB is SATA or SCSI, but I 
doubt it's SCSI. There is also the distinction between 1.8" and 2.5" drives, 
make sure you get the right size, but most are 2.5".


I've got an extra Corsair Nova 64. It's a refurb'd warranty replacement that I 
never unboxed, having replaced it with a new one before it arrived. 64GB are 
cheap, but not everybody can live with one that small. I was using it in a 17" 
notebook with two drives, booting from the 64GB and storing large files on the 
640GB HDD.


Whatever you get, take a look at the idle wattage. Some of them can draw over a 
watt at idle, which is as bad as a 5400rpm HDD, while some of them draw 
practically nothing unless you're writing to them.



Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12" PB

[Allan Streib]

Hm looks like some googling would have been in order first...

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/SSD/OWC/Mercury_Legacy_Pro



On Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:25 AM, "Allan Streib"  
wrote:
> Thinking of replacing the hard drive in my 12" PowerBook with an SSD.  Should 
> give me better performance and hopefully longer battery life.
> 
> Is this feasible?  Anyone know if SSDs are made with a compatible interface?  
> Most I've seen are SATA.
> 
> Allan
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[MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12" PB

[Allan Streib]

Thinking of replacing the hard drive in my 12" PowerBook with an SSD.  Should 
give me better performance and hopefully longer battery life.

Is this feasible?  Anyone know if SSDs are made with a compatible interface?  
Most I've seen are SATA.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Dad's Retirement Hobby?

[Michael Canfield]

Very cool.

Mike
On Sep 26, 2011 8:01 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For the (wo) man who has everything. A very interesting sculpture.
> Yes, MB content. Sent to me by #2 daughter.
>
>>
>>
>>
http://www.giganten-aus-stahl.de/en/vehicles/mercedes-300-slr.html
>>
>>Cool, huh?
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[MBZ] Daughter's new car

[MG]

Something to think about. Really though where would I find a hill 
steep enough and long enough in Florida. :-)


Road trip!

Manfred


Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:33:08 -0600
From: Brian Toscano 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Daughter's new car

If the car was driven around town towards the end, the turbo 
might have a

lot of lag that can be fixed with an Italian tune-up.

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Daughter's new car

[Michael Canfield]

Jim,
  Why is it that your replies almost always say (spam?) in the subject line?

Mike
On Sep 27, 2011 9:02 AM, "Jim Cathey"  wrote:
>> I have a newer switch that we will be trying to see about that.
>
> The switches are easily disassembled and cleaned.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Daughter's new car

[Jim Cathey]

I have a newer switch that we will be trying to see about that.


The switches are easily disassembled and cleaned.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Latest 190D tranny update

[Jim Cathey]

Ok, so took about 4 hours to completely swap the tranny on the 190D,--

That's fast


"How do you get to Carnegie Hall"  :-)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Latest 190D tranny update

[Jim Cathey]

An engine which is not providing full power is easily mis-diagnosed as 
a transmission problem, because the shifting is wrong.


Yep.  The Albatross had a 'bad tranny'.  Turned out somebody'd
really messed up the throttle linkage, and the full-load stop
screw on the injection pump.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Aligning my new trunk lid.

[Rolf]

W124.

On 09/26/2011 06:51 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

Is this your 123 or 124?  I don't know about the former, but I have put a
junkyard trunklid on a 300E and it took a lot of fiddling with the hinge
bolts to get to sit straight and seal right.

Alex
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