Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) '77 300D Window

[Max]

Fmiser  wrote:

 >
>Hmm, did you "copy" before clicking reply?  If you do it after,
>maybe it will have the ">" characters applied already.
>
Before.  This email I made the cut/paste after hitting reply.

K9 does a thing or two that I need for work email, I'm sure there are better 
clients out there.  Typing on a touch screen is still pretty new, so that's 
part of the issue.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] Holy Hard Drives, Batman!

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Nov 20, 2011 7:26 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah, I could buy a new video card,
> but then I have to buy a flat screen
> monitor.   I had a whole truckload of
> Trinitron 17" to 19" CRT monitors.

Surely there are still low-end video cards with VGA outputs?  If not,
DVI-to-VGA adapters are readily available.

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) '77 300D Window

[Craig]

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 22:20:53 -0500 Michael Canfield 
wrote:

> Why do you prefer bottom posting?

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?


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Re: [MBZ] Making progress on the W109

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

It's amazing how much can get done when the wife and kids are gone

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 20, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:

> Hi Guys,
> 
> I've been living a bachelor's life the last few days since my wife and son
> are away visiting family, so I was able to get a lot of work done on my '67
> 300SEL.  The engine is now running!
> 
> I documented the work on my website:
> http://www.jaimekop.com/
> 
> Enjoy,
> Jaime
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Re: [MBZ] Holy Hard Drives, Batman!

[Dieselhead]

You noticed that too huh?  I did the exercise about a week ago. 
Everything seemed to be double the prices in March or so.However 
by carefully searching the macsales .com OWC site, I did find 1 or 2 
decent prices for 2.5" drives mixed among the high ones.


My drive upgrade project will wait.

Does anyone know if seagate still is installing a 10 year automatic 
detonate?  In 2000, I built 2 identical boxes and used seagate 
drives, pretty big for the day (maybe 40 gig?) and 2 years ago, both 
went titsup within days, with none of the usual dying hard drive 
symptoms.  Fine one day, dead the next.  almost exactly 10 years from 
purchase.


I really liked seagates until then.  I still have some older 20Gb 
seagates that are still working, well after 10 years.  I figured that 
Seagate installed a 10 year self destruct "feature."


BTW,   one of those 2 machines is the one I got POd about Server 2003 
having to phone home on a few days ago.  Different drive, obviously. 
I had swapped out the original seagate after a few years.  The other 
machine still had the Seagate in it when the drive croaked.  That was 
my main daily use machine until then.  I'd still be using that 
machine if I had not gone to Macs.


Maybe in January I can buy a 1Tb drive cheap on fleabay or 
crazedlist.  I bought a SATA card last spring to do a drive upgrade 
to one of my IDE vintage machines last spring, but never got around 
to buying a drive  and putting them in.


I tried buying an old dell (SX?)270 with a SATA in it, but dell was 
nice enough to disable the video to 640x480 16 color if you had the 
audacity to install server on a "workstation."  So that is another 
dead end.  Yeah, I could buy a new video card, but then I have to buy 
a flat screen monitor.   I had a whole truckload of Trinitron 17" to 
19" CRT monitors.  So it makes no sense other than space saving to 
buy flat monitors.   I need the money saved to fix up old MBs and to 
help keep Q in business. (and to keep buying new macbooks for family 
members.)


So as long as my pile of 586 type stuff keeps functioning or until I 
find better junk for free or dirt cheap, I will keep using it for any 
non-mac needs


Some year I will buy a newer mac desktop when the used core2 stuff 
gets really cheap.  Last time I looked the surplus sales were still 
selling G4s for the low end prices.




Got a Core2Duo CPU to replace the CoreDuo in my 20" iMac on the way 
this week, so I figured I would look at swapping out the original 
250GB hard drive while I have the thing apart. (Didn't know the 
processors were socketed on these, did you?)


Just got done looking at CompUSA's site for a cheap hard drive and 
nearly had a coronary!


I can recall seeing 1GB SATA hard drives earlier this year for under 
$50.  Now you can barely find them for $100!


Ouch!

Guess I'll see what I have in the Xserve box 'o' parts I keep for 
server spares.  I think I put two 500GB drives in my primary server 
for around $40/each this summer.


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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) '77 300D Window

[Michael Canfield]

Seams to make reading mail a bit more difficult with my Android app for
Gmail.  If I don't recall what the person is quoting I simply click the
show quoted text box and it appears.

Mike
On Nov 20, 2011 10:20 PM, "Michael Canfield"  wrote:

> Why do you prefer bottom posting?
>
> Mike
> On Nov 20, 2011 5:18 PM, "Rick Knoble"  wrote:
>
>> >> Some email clients let you select the text you want to keep in the
>> >> original post, then click "reply" and only the selected text is quoted.
>> >>
>> >> Mine doesn't (K9 for Android), but you and Craig have given me an idea
>> >> for a variation on that theme.  I copied the selected quote, deleted
>> >> most of the rest, then pasted the quote back in.
>> >
>> > Attaboy, Max!
>>
>>
>> YES!
>> On my iPhone, if I hold my thumb over a character for a few seconds, a
>> text box opens with the choices " Select, Select All, Cut, Copy, and Paste
>> after I have copied something. I cut and paste the text I am quoting, then
>> select and backspace to delete any unwanted text. I can select large chunks
>> of text by dragging the highlighted text using my finger, as you would use
>> a mouse on a computer.
>>
>> Rick
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) '77 300D Window

[Michael Canfield]

Why do you prefer bottom posting?

Mike
On Nov 20, 2011 5:18 PM, "Rick Knoble"  wrote:

> >> Some email clients let you select the text you want to keep in the
> >> original post, then click "reply" and only the selected text is quoted.
> >>
> >> Mine doesn't (K9 for Android), but you and Craig have given me an idea
> >> for a variation on that theme.  I copied the selected quote, deleted
> >> most of the rest, then pasted the quote back in.
> >
> > Attaboy, Max!
>
>
> YES!
> On my iPhone, if I hold my thumb over a character for a few seconds, a
> text box opens with the choices " Select, Select All, Cut, Copy, and Paste
> after I have copied something. I cut and paste the text I am quoting, then
> select and backspace to delete any unwanted text. I can select large chunks
> of text by dragging the highlighted text using my finger, as you would use
> a mouse on a computer.
>
> Rick
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) '77 300D Window

[Fmiser]

> Walt Zarnoch wrote:

> Vi/vim is acceptable.
> 
> Had to use Emacs by accident for the first time last night...
> Nearly upchucked... :p

The opposite is just as true.  Not long ago I found myself in
vim.  All I wanted to do was change one line, save, and exit.
Navigate.
Switch modes.
Edit
Switch modes
Exit
Or something like that.  And each step requiring looking up how
in a reference manual.

That doesn't mean I think vi is evil or bad - just I'm not
familiar with the tools and they don't seem to fit my keyboard
very well.

You are quite welcome to use vi and even like it - just please
don't make me! *smiles*

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Re: [MBZ] Holy Hard Drives, Batman!

[Fmiser]

> LWB250 wrote:

> Just got done looking at CompUSA's site for a cheap hard drive
> and nearly had a coronary!
> 
> I can recall seeing 1GB SATA hard drives earlier this year for
> under $50.  Now you can barely find them for $100!

The factories in Thailand are underwater.  Prices are way up! 

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Re: [MBZ] Editor wars - was: (SPAM?) '77 300D Window

[Fmiser]

> > On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:16:48 -0600 Fmiser 
> >
> > The more I use a real editor the harder it is to use anything
> > else.

> Craig wrote:
> 
> You mean a real editor like vi?  :-)

Naw, I quit that habit years ago! *grin*

All waring aside, I can see real value in vi except the
keystrokes seem dependent on the keyboard layout, so when
using a dvorak layout it gets pretty clumsy.  On the otherhand,
Emacs ties it to an english mnemonic.   Which is better?  Let
the fights begin!! heh.

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[MBZ] Making progress on the W109

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Hi Guys,

I've been living a bachelor's life the last few days since my wife and son
are away visiting family, so I was able to get a lot of work done on my '67
300SEL.  The engine is now running!

I documented the work on my website:
http://www.jaimekop.com/

Enjoy,
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Re: [MBZ] Secret message for LWBDan

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
>> '87 300D.  Jim C. resoldered this one for me about five years ago, but
>
> Did it ever work well after I worked on it?
>

Yes, it worked great for five years!  I had never had a Mercedes with
working ACC before and didn't know what I was missing.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Certified?

[Fred Moir]

They are only certifying that is used?

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred


On 11/20/2011 6:54 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Doesn't one need to be a MBZ dealer to sell Certified Pre-Owned?
Can you certify a ten year old car?

http://search.ebay.com/170732142566



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[MBZ] Holy Hard Drives, Batman!

[LWB250]

Got a Core2Duo CPU to replace the CoreDuo in my 20" iMac on the way this week, 
so I figured I would look at swapping out the original 250GB hard drive while I 
have the thing apart. (Didn't know the processors were socketed on these, did 
you?)

Just got done looking at CompUSA's site for a cheap hard drive and nearly had a 
coronary!

I can recall seeing 1GB SATA hard drives earlier this year for under $50.  Now 
you can barely find them for $100!

Ouch!

Guess I'll see what I have in the Xserve box 'o' parts I keep for server 
spares.  I think I put two 500GB drives in my primary server for around 
$40/each this summer.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Certified?

[Allan Streib]

Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> writes:

> In the case of a brand CPO, I am guessing that many dealers and most
> of the grease monkeys are not interested in being sure the inspection
> was done completely and thoroughly.  They save money and add profit by
> taking shortcuts.  If an inspected item fails in the warranted period,
> they have to fix it.  Thus they postpone the expense.

I'm inclined to agree.  If they can sell a car for an exta $2,000 --
$3,000 or more by calling it "Certified" they will.  Unless it has
glaringly obvious problems, it's probably worth it to just pencil-whip a
cosmetically good car through the inspection.  They are risking that
something goes wrong before the new owner sells it, wrecks it, AND
that all their fine print exclusions won't give them an out on honoring
the repair.

Allan

-- 
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) '77 300D Window

[Walt Zarnoch]

I use nano and Scite. nano more often now that I got syntax highlighting to
work nice for C and such.

Vi/vim is acceptable.

Had to use Emacs by accident for the first time last night... Nearly
upchucked... :p

Walt
On Nov 20, 2011 8:33 PM, "Craig"  wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:16:48 -0600 Fmiser  wrote:
>
> > The more I use a real editor the harder it is to use anything
> > else.
>
> You mean a real editor like vi?  :-)
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) '77 300D Window

[Craig]

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:16:48 -0600 Fmiser  wrote:

> The more I use a real editor the harder it is to use anything
> else.

You mean a real editor like vi?  :-)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Certified?

[Dieselhead]

"Certified" means nothing unless it is preceded by or followed by 
something that is a recognized certification.That is ALL the ad 
in question says.  It is achieved by being able to manipulate a pull 
down on the fleabay listing page.


"certified Pre-owned " with no other words means the seller is 
certifying that the car was owned by someone else.


"Mercedes Benz Certified Pre-owned" is supposed to mean that the 
dealer has checked out the car in many areas and either found them to 
be serviceable or replaced them.  Whether or not that was actually 
done, and done properly is anybody's guess.


All the major car companies have their own standard.

We can create a ""Okiebenz Certified Pre-owned" certification and 
define what it means.  I would guess it would mean that we are 
certifying that the car had a previous owner (PO).


In the case of a brand CPO, I am guessing that many dealers and most 
of the grease monkeys are not interested in being sure the inspection 
was done completely and thoroughly.  They save money and add profit 
by taking shortcuts.  If an inspected item fails in the warranted 
period, they have to fix it.  Thus they postpone the expense.


CPO or not, buyer beware.




"Certified" can have so many meanings.. ie. "certified insane" or
"certified worthless"...
Even when taken in context, the scope is so broad as to be nearly useless,
IMHO.

However, "Certified, with documents" would have some credit.

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:


 Doesn't one need to be a MBZ dealer to sell Certified Pre-Owned?
 Can you certify a ten year old car?

 http://search.ebay.com/**170732142566

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) '77 300D Window

[Fmiser]

> > Fmiser  writes:
> > 
> > I often launch emacs (well, just a frame, it's already
> > running) just to write a reply because it is just a good
> > editor.

> Allan Streib wrote:
> 
> If you're an emacs user, there are several options for reading
> and managing your email all from within emacs.  I use Gnus.

Yup.  

But how emacs (gnus or uhm, some other one I tried) handles
IMAP is not so good.  I have an extensive POP3 > IMAP that is
then server here on my LAN.  So I use Sylpheed which allows a
one-button export to emacs for editing.  That way I get the
power of emacs for the text editing part and the mail
managment of Sylpheed.  'Good unix-style system where each
does what it's good at and makes it easy to link in with other
tools.

The more I use a real editor the harder it is to use anything
else.

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Re: [MBZ] 300d glow plug circuit

[Fmiser]

> Douglas Jones wrote:

> Thanks for the suggestions about my glow plug light. Why was
> my question suspected spam?

Nothing to do with you. :)

Jim's ISP seems to often think messages from this list are
spam.  Not always though.  However, there is nothing you can do
to change it - and it seems even Jim hasn't managed to outsmart
the ISP - yet. :)

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Re: [MBZ] Certifiable?

[Mitch Haley]

G Mann wrote:
> "Certified" can have so many meanings..

Certified by Autocheck to have been rear-ended while under lease to somebody who 
didn't intend to keep it very long?


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Re: [MBZ] Certified?

[G Mann]

"Certified" can have so many meanings.. ie. "certified insane" or
"certified worthless"...
Even when taken in context, the scope is so broad as to be nearly useless,
IMHO.

However, "Certified, with documents" would have some credit.

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Doesn't one need to be a MBZ dealer to sell Certified Pre-Owned?
> Can you certify a ten year old car?
>
> http://search.ebay.com/**170732142566
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Re: [MBZ] bite or ignore

[Craig]

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 15:56:25 -0800 (PST) Dimitri Seretakis
 wrote:

> Get a 123 in a funky color and you'll have all the charisma in the
> world.

Or paint it camouflage so she can't see it. :-)


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Re: [MBZ] bite or ignore

[Jim Cathey]

123.  Just seems to lack all charisma.


Kinda does, true.  But it is a nice ride.


maybe a CD could up the appeal.


Perhaps.  I have one, would make massive wife points if I
sold it.  I thought I'd be into it and driving it by now,
but I somehow doubt that'll happen anytime soon, perhaps
never, and the poor thing has been completely neglected.
My wife drove it here from Olympia.  The next day I drove
it maybe 100 yards to its current resting place, that's
the sum total of time I've spent on it in six (!) years.
Site:

http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mb300cd.html

It doesn't look that good anymore, but should clean up
fine.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] CPO

[RELNGSON]

> Doesn't one need to be a MBZ dealer to sell Certified Pre-Owned?
> Can you certify a ten year old car?..
> 
CPO is certainly a dealer thing. And when I traded my accursed 2001 C320 
in, the limit for CPO was seven years or 70K miles. The inspection process for 
this is extensive to avoid later warranty claims.

RLE
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Diesels for sale

[Dieselhead]

http://westernmass.craigslist.org/cto/2710621407.html   87 300D
$2500Urp!


And there are those in MA who think folks there are so much more 
enlightened than the rest of the country.  This car is a case in 
point.



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Re: [MBZ] Certified?

[Dieselhead]

In this case, to qualify as "Certified Pre-owned,"  whoever does the 
listing has to be able to open the ebay pull down menu and click on 
"Certified Pre-owned"   Shazam, you have a "Certified Pre-owned car.


Tough criteria, but somebody figured out how to meet the criteria.




Doesn't one need to be a MBZ dealer to sell Certified Pre-Owned?
Can you certify a ten year old car?

http://search.ebay.com/170732142566


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Re: [MBZ] Certified?

[Walt Zarnoch]

He's certifying there was a previous owner, no misdirection there... :p

Walt
On Nov 20, 2011 6:54 PM, "Mitch Haley"  wrote:

> Doesn't one need to be a MBZ dealer to sell Certified Pre-Owned?
> Can you certify a ten year old car?
>
> http://search.ebay.com/**170732142566
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Re: [MBZ] Certified?

[Allan Streib]

Maybe it was certified pre-owned when he bought it.

Seller had no history either.  I'd be wary.

Mitch Haley  writes:

> Doesn't one need to be a MBZ dealer to sell Certified Pre-Owned?
> Can you certify a ten year old car?
>
> http://search.ebay.com/170732142566

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Re: [MBZ] bite or ignore

[Dimitri Seretakis]

Get a 123 in a funky color and you'll have all the charisma in the world.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 20, 2011, at 6:27 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

clay monroe wrote:
Still on the fence about a 123.  Just seems to lack all charisma.  maybe a CD 
could up the appeal.
SWMBA is not appeased by anything I am doing this year

Heck, why not get a w116 6.9?
12mpg and tons of fun.
Better looking than a 123 too.
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[MBZ] Certified?

[Mitch Haley]

Doesn't one need to be a MBZ dealer to sell Certified Pre-Owned?
Can you certify a ten year old car?

http://search.ebay.com/170732142566

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Re: [MBZ] S-Class recomended to replace towncar

[Walt Zarnoch]

That made my night, can't stop laughing now.

Walt
On Nov 20, 2011 12:45 PM, "Peter Hertzing"  wrote:

> mine too. when people call asking for them I always say I don't have
> one, but I do have a school bus.  loooks the same rides the same
>
> On 11/20/11, Allan Streib  wrote:
> > Peter Hertzing  writes:
> >
> >> this was for black cars or sedans no necesarily streches.  most have
> >> gone with monster suvs as of late.
> >
> > Yeah I've seen the stretch Hummers.  Absurd, if you want my opinion.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] bite or ignore

[Mitch Haley]

clay monroe wrote:

Still on the fence about a 123.  Just seems to lack all charisma.  maybe a CD 
could up the appeal.
SWMBA is not appeased by anything I am doing this year


Heck, why not get a w116 6.9?
12mpg and tons of fun.
Better looking than a 123 too.
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Re: [MBZ] card-op

[clay monroe]

yes

On Nov 19, 2011, at 7:51 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

>> ...The card-op I go to has really good turn over of product.  Never see a 
>> tanker there, but the pumps seem to be THE place to be for diesel cars in 
>> the area.  Main business of the place is actually home heating, but four 
>> pumps each for petrol and diesel..
>> 
> Sounds like Laurelhurst Oil on Union Bay Place.
> 
> RLE
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Re: [MBZ] bite or ignore

[clay monroe]

Still on the fence about a 123.  Just seems to lack all charisma.  maybe a CD 
could up the appeal.
SWMBA is not appeased by anything I am doing this year



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On Nov 19, 2011, at 6:32 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:

>> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2709425649.html
> 
> What he said.  Needs turbo to make up for slushbox.
> Our Chicken Wagon ('83) continues to be a surprisingly
> decent vehicle.  Vastly more comfortable than the
> Frankenheap, though there's something about the heap
> that just plain appeals to me.  The CW is what my
> wife's driving this season, I get the heap.
> 
> Will SWMBA be appeased by the shininess?
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 300d glow plug circuit

[Allan Streib]

Douglas Jones  writes:

> Thanks for the suggestions about my glow plug light. Why was my
> question suspected spam?

Several folks on the list seem to have spam filters that tag list
email.  They then forget to trim the SPAM tag from the subject when
replying.


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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) '77 300D Window

[Allan Streib]

Fmiser  writes:

> It's really sad that there is an email client that doesn't make
> it easy to edit.  Seems to be that's a big part of what email is
> about!  I often launch emacs (well, just a frame, it's already
> running) just to write a reply because it is just a good editor.

If you're an emacs user, there are several options for reading and
managing your email all from within emacs.  I use Gnus.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) '77 300D Window

[Rick Knoble]

>> Some email clients let you select the text you want to keep in the
>> original post, then click "reply" and only the selected text is quoted.
>> 
>> Mine doesn't (K9 for Android), but you and Craig have given me an idea
>> for a variation on that theme.  I copied the selected quote, deleted
>> most of the rest, then pasted the quote back in.
> 
> Attaboy, Max!


YES! 
On my iPhone, if I hold my thumb over a character for a few seconds, a text box 
opens with the choices " Select, Select All, Cut, Copy, and Paste after I have 
copied something. I cut and paste the text I am quoting, then select and 
backspace to delete any unwanted text. I can select large chunks of text by 
dragging the highlighted text using my finger, as you would use a mouse on a 
computer. 

Rick
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[MBZ] Diesels for sale

[Fred Moir]

http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/2711357631.html  85 300TD  
$1250Bust Rucket.
http://albany.craigslist.org/cto/2711713661.html 97 E300D  
$3000Diff. needed.
http://westernmass.craigslist.org/cto/2710621407.html   87 300D 
$2500Urp!
http://westernmass.craigslist.org/cto/2709626548.html82/83 240/300D 
 $1500   Diesel trio.
http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/2703052344.html72 220D 
$1000   Tasty!

Not mine, etc.

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred


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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) '77 300D Window

[Fmiser]

> > Fmiser  wrote:
> > 
> > Some email clients let you select the text you want to keep
> > in the original post, then click "reply" and only the selected
> > text is quoted.

> Max wrote:
> 
> Mine doesn't (K9 for Android), but you and Craig have given me
> an idea for a variation on that theme.  I copied the selected
> quote, deleted most of the rest, then pasted the quote back in.

It's really sad that there is an email client that doesn't make
it easy to edit.  Seems to be that's a big part of what email is
about!  I often launch emacs (well, just a frame, it's already
running) just to write a reply because it is just a good editor.

Does K9 show text different when the line begins with ">"
characters?  All of the clients I use the greater-than character
to display the different levels of replies.  That is one
shortcoming of the copy/paste method you just did.

Hmm, did you "copy" before clicking reply?  If you do it after,
maybe it will have the ">" characters applied already.

Or maybe K9 doesn't even make that easy to do...

--   Philip, who gets annoyed with programs that mess with
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[MBZ] 300d glow plug circuit

[Douglas Jones]

Thanks for the suggestions about my glow plug light. Why was my question 
suspected spam?

240d
300d
300sd
e320 wagon
420sel

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) '77 300D Window

[Craig]

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 15:05:54 -0500 Max  wrote:

> Fmiser  wrote:
> 
>  Some email clients let you select the text you want to keep in the
> original post, then click "reply" and only the selected text is quoted.
> 
> Mine doesn't (K9 for Android), but you and Craig have given me an idea
> for a variation on that theme.  I copied the selected quote, deleted
> most of the rest, then pasted the quote back in.

Attaboy, Max!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) '77 300D Window

[Max]

Allan Streib  wrote:

 >Try highlighting the bit you want to quote before you click "Reply."


Doesn't work for my email client, but you've inspired a different way that may 
be easier for me.
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Re: [MBZ] Secret message for LWBDan

[Jim Cathey]

'87 300D.  Jim C. resoldered this one for me about five years ago, but


August 17, 2006.


its behavior strongly suggests typical heat-related intermittent
electronics failure---works fine when the car is cold, then goes
bonkers after a while once it warms up.


Did it ever work well after I worked on it?

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Re: [MBZ] car-part.com?

[Brian Toscano]

I've never used it for big, expensive things.  But its worked well for
finding NLA control arms for my '90 Dodge diesel, among other things.


On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Allan Streib wrote:

> Allan Streib  writes:
>
> > Mitch and I were discussing how the throttle inputs to the tranny are
> > different on the W116 vs. W126, most likely they are also different on
>  ^^^
> meant to write 123
>
> > the W126.  Would make for something at least a bit more complicated
> > than a direct swap.
>
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Re: [MBZ] glow plug light won't go out 300d

[Max]

Allan Streib  wrote:

 >Isn't the usual indicator of bad plugs that the lamp doesn't come on,
>not that it doesn't go off?
>
I think that there are at least two different ways the light can flash to 
communicate a problem, not su

e which cars/relays use which signal, but if the light comes on or flashes 
after the car is running that means the pre-glow system needs attention.
-- 
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) '77 300D Window

[Max]

Fmiser  wrote:

 Some email clients let you select the text you want to keep in the original 
post, then click "reply" and only the selected text is quoted.

Mine doesn't (K9 for Android), but you and Craig have given me an idea for a 
variation on that theme.  I copied the selected quote, deleted most of the 
rest, then pasted the quote back in.
-- 
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Re: [MBZ] Secret message for LWBDan

[Dan Penoff]

Sure.

Send me a note off list and we can take care of it.

Dan

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On Nov 20, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Alex Chamberlain  wrote:

> Dan,I found a thread from a few months ago where you had offered to
> rebuild/resolder ACC PBUs for a small price... still interested?  I
> have ruled out everything else that could be wrong with the ACC on my
> '87 300D.  Jim C. resoldered this one for me about five years ago, but
> its behavior strongly suggests typical heat-related intermittent
> electronics failure---works fine when the car is cold, then goes
> bonkers after a while once it warms up.
> 
> Alex
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[MBZ] Secret message for LWBDan

[Alex Chamberlain]

Dan,I found a thread from a few months ago where you had offered to
rebuild/resolder ACC PBUs for a small price... still interested?  I
have ruled out everything else that could be wrong with the ACC on my
'87 300D.  Jim C. resoldered this one for me about five years ago, but
its behavior strongly suggests typical heat-related intermittent
electronics failure---works fine when the car is cold, then goes
bonkers after a while once it warms up.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) '77 300D Window

[Fmiser]

> >  wrote:
> >
> >  Yes, cringed when I saw my post.  I'm trying, this bottom
> > posting thing is not for the lazy!

Kudos to you Max for even trying!

> Craig wrote:
>
> I don't find if difficult at all, I just position my mouse
> cursor at the end of the last line I want to quote, click the
> button and drag to the bottom of what I want to delete,
> release the button, and press Backspace.

Some email clients let you select the text you want to keep in
the original post, then click "reply" and only the selected text
is quoted.  Sylpheed does, and I think Thunderbird does NOT.

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[MBZ] Bottom posting

[Max]

Craig  wrote:

>On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 08:55:55 -0500 Max 
>wrote:
>
>>  Yes, cringed when I saw my post.  I'm trying, this bottom posting
>> thing is not for the lazy!
>
>I don't find if difficult at all, I just position my mouse cursor at
>the
>end of the last line I want to quote, click the button and drag to the
>bottom of what I want to delete, release the button, and press
>Backspace.
>

No mouse for me, touch screen on the phone.  I've been thinking about a blue 
tooth keyboard though.  Email client I'm using does not lend itself to editing.
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Re: [MBZ] car-part.com?

[Allan Streib]

Allan Streib  writes:

> Mitch and I were discussing how the throttle inputs to the tranny are
> different on the W116 vs. W126, most likely they are also different on
 ^^^
 meant to write 123

> the W126.  Would make for something at least a bit more complicated
> than a direct swap.

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Re: [MBZ] car-part.com?

[Allan Streib]

Mike Esh  writes:

> I am not sure if an 84 would fit in a 79.  Perhaps someone else knows.
> I am in Whitehall, MI an hour northwest of Grand Rapids.  The car is
> driveable.

Mitch and I were discussing how the throttle inputs to the tranny are
different on the W116 vs. W126, most likely they are also different on
the W126.  Would make for something at least a bit more complicated
than a direct swap.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] car-part.com?

[Mike Esh]

I am not sure if an 84 would fit in a 79.  Perhaps someone else knows.  
I am in Whitehall, MI an hour northwest of Grand Rapids.  The car is driveable.

Michael E. Esh


On Nov 20, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:

> Mike Esh  writes:
> 
>> Alan, where are you located.  I have an 84 300SD with a professionally
>> rebuilt tranny.  Less than 50,000 miles on tranny.  250,000 + miles
>> with strong engine.  Complete running car for $1500.00. It has rust
>> issues and typical hvac problems.
> 
> Indiana.  Would that one go in a '79?  I think mine is a 722.120
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] S-Class recomended to replace towncar

[Peter Hertzing]

mine too. when people call asking for them I always say I don't have
one, but I do have a school bus.  loooks the same rides the same

On 11/20/11, Allan Streib  wrote:
> Peter Hertzing  writes:
>
>> this was for black cars or sedans no necesarily streches.  most have
>> gone with monster suvs as of late.
>
> Yeah I've seen the stretch Hummers.  Absurd, if you want my opinion.
>
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[MBZ] OT -- GM -- the gift that keeps on taking

[Rich Thomas]

http://reason.com/blog/2011/11/17/treasury-admits-what-everybody-already-k

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Re: [MBZ] S-Class recomended to replace towncar

[Allan Streib]

Peter Hertzing  writes:

> this was for black cars or sedans no necesarily streches.  most have
> gone with monster suvs as of late.

Yeah I've seen the stretch Hummers.  Absurd, if you want my opinion.

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Re: [MBZ] S-Class recomended to replace towncar

[Peter Hertzing]

this was for black cars or sedans no necesarily streches.  most have
gone with monster suvs as of late.  I still have a good 6 years left
with my towncar strtch fleet

On 11/20/11, Allan Streib  wrote:
> Allan Streib  writes:
>
>> Is Binz still around?
>
> Looks like it http://www.binz-limousines.com/
>
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) '77 300D Window

[Allan Streib]

Max  writes:

> I'm trying, this bottom posting thing is not for the lazy!

Try highlighting the bit you want to quote before you click "Reply."
Many mail readers are smart enough to quote just that bit and not the
entire message.

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Re: [MBZ] S-Class recomended to replace towncar

[Allan Streib]

Allan Streib  writes:

> Is Binz still around?

Looks like it http://www.binz-limousines.com/

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Re: [MBZ] S-Class recomended to replace towncar

[Allan Streib]

Peter Hertzing  writes:

> The towncars have always been very good to me, delivering 25MPG
> consistently and having very low maint expense with the exception of fords
> famously poor front ends which you can count on spending about $2000 on
> every 100,000 miles.  Not sure where the s-class is built maybe some one
> here knows, but the towncar was built in Canada and I suspect over the
> years was down to having less American content then a Toyota Camry.

I would guess the "S" class are still built in the Fatherland.  Who does
the stretch work though?  Is Binz still around?

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Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices

[Allan Streib]

Max  writes:

> Yabut, google the title, select the WSJ link, and voila... you are
> behind the wall.

When WSJ sees the referrer header is from Google it lets you in.

If you have a browser plugin that lets you see/tweak referrers you could
probably fool it.

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Re: [MBZ] glow plug light won't go out 300d

[Allan Streib]

Max  writes:

> Douglas Jones  wrote:
>
>>I just went through my 300d glow plugs. Checked them all and found one
>>bad one. Replaced it and now the car starts, but .
>
> I think you've got one or more that are bad; replace them all, or test
> the current draw.

Isn't the usual indicator of bad plugs that the lamp doesn't come on,
not that it doesn't go off?

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Re: [MBZ] car-part.com?

[Allan Streib]

andrew strasfogel  writes:

> And you can have my spare 1985 300D engine with approx. 225 K miles and
> perfect running condition for the same price.  Already out of the car and
> ready for pickup. Build your car here!

My engine seems good now that I fixed the balancer and vacuum pump.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] car-part.com?

[Allan Streib]

Mike Esh  writes:

> Alan, where are you located.  I have an 84 300SD with a professionally
> rebuilt tranny.  Less than 50,000 miles on tranny.  250,000 + miles
> with strong engine.  Complete running car for $1500.00. It has rust
> issues and typical hvac problems.

Indiana.  Would that one go in a '79?  I think mine is a 722.120

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) '77 300D Window

[Craig]

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 08:55:55 -0500 Max  wrote:

>  Yes, cringed when I saw my post.  I'm trying, this bottom posting
> thing is not for the lazy!

I don't find if difficult at all, I just position my mouse cursor at the
end of the last line I want to quote, click the button and drag to the
bottom of what I want to delete, release the button, and press Backspace.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] S-Class recomended to replace towncar

[Peter Frederick]

The Benz will be cheaper to own, probably cheaper to operate, too.

This has been true for at least 40 years -- If I could do things over  
again I'd have bought a used 240D instead of the Audi Fox I bought in  
1980, I'd probably still be driving it.  At least a couple of them  
are still in operation in the local area, I see them at the grocery  
every day!


The longevity of the Benz is greater (although new models are likely  
not as good as the 80's ones) -- a good one will live almost forever  
in "dignified" use, barring accidents, and the initial purchase  
prices amortizes out over time.


Not that the Town car was a bad car by any means -- a friend of ours  
buys them used and keeps them until they start having problems, his  
last one got 27 mpg on the highway and was a VERY comfortable car to  
ride in.  Not sure what driving it was like, it seemed rather "boaty"  
to me (long front overhang), but for regular use that's not a problem.


Peter

On Nov 20, 2011, at 7:53 AM, Peter Hertzing wrote:


Good Morning all:

Just had a chance to sit down with a cup of coffee and read for the  
first
time this week.  In the December issue of Limo Digest (Trade  
magazine for
those of us in Livery Service) an extensive article recommends the  
S Class

3.0V6 to replace the discontinued towncar.  At a tested 33 MPG highway
(remember us livery folks generally stick to the speed limit and  
try not to
upset our passengers with jack rabbit starts), they feel the  
additional
$25,000 sticker price will be offset in reduced maint and fuel cost  
over
the life of the vehicle.  By no means can I afford one but I will  
keep you

posted as they are doing a 500,000 mile analysis of the costs.

The towncars have always been very good to me, delivering 25MPG
consistently and having very low maint expense with the exception  
of fords
famously poor front ends which you can count on spending about  
$2000 on
every 100,000 miles.  Not sure where the s-class is built maybe  
some one

here knows, but the towncar was built in Canada and I suspect over the
years was down to having less American content then a Toyota  
Camry.  At

first Glance you get a pain in your gut that the traditional American
luxury is being replaced with Germany Luxury but after the logical  
side of
your brain kicks in using an S-Class for American livery may create  
more

American jobs then the towncar was.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) '77 300D Window

[Max]

Craig  wrote:

>
>It took me a while to find your response, Max. How about trimming out
>the
>lines next time?
>
>
>Craig
>
 

 Yes, cringed when I saw my post.  I'm trying, this bottom posting thing is not 
for the lazy!
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[MBZ] S-Class recomended to replace towncar

[Peter Hertzing]

Good Morning all:

Just had a chance to sit down with a cup of coffee and read for the first
time this week.  In the December issue of Limo Digest (Trade magazine for
those of us in Livery Service) an extensive article recommends the S Class
3.0V6 to replace the discontinued towncar.  At a tested 33 MPG highway
(remember us livery folks generally stick to the speed limit and try not to
upset our passengers with jack rabbit starts), they feel the additional
$25,000 sticker price will be offset in reduced maint and fuel cost over
the life of the vehicle.  By no means can I afford one but I will keep you
posted as they are doing a 500,000 mile analysis of the costs.

The towncars have always been very good to me, delivering 25MPG
consistently and having very low maint expense with the exception of fords
famously poor front ends which you can count on spending about $2000 on
every 100,000 miles.  Not sure where the s-class is built maybe some one
here knows, but the towncar was built in Canada and I suspect over the
years was down to having less American content then a Toyota Camry.  At
first Glance you get a pain in your gut that the traditional American
luxury is being replaced with Germany Luxury but after the logical side of
your brain kicks in using an S-Class for American livery may create more
American jobs then the towncar was.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) '77 300D Window

[Dieselhead]

Car-part.com is your friend.  If they don't list what you need, put 
in a part like door, and start calling the ones that list a door with 
a reasonable price until you find one that will sell the regulator.





You guys were right, there is a key-sized, oblong chunk of regulator broken
out around the dual gear.

New regulator is $422.  How likely is JB weld to last?  Something else?
Even the junkyard cars are newer than this.  I'd love to be able to lower
the window but $400 is just not going to happen.

Thanks,
Tim
 On Nov 10, 2011 2:29 PM, "Rich Thomas" <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:


 You need to remove the whole assembly (the "regulator") and then deal with
 it.  There are 3 or 4 nuts, then you have to wrestle it around to get it
 out, the slides detached from the window, etc.  I can do it in about 5 min
 now but it will take you longer if you have not done it before.  You can
 easily remove the motor once the whole deal is out, it is a PITA to do it
 in the door.

 Don't forget to lift up in the door panel to get the tabs out of the
 slots, and to have some little wedges of some sort to jam in between the
 glass and the rubber sweep at the bottom to hold it up while you get the
 regulator out.

 If the regulator is indeed warped (which it probably is -- those motors
 have a lot of torque and can actually bend them) I had luck with one by
 laying it across a 2x4 or two and carefully stepping/stomping on it to bend
 it back into shape.  It might also be that the big driven arm gear rivet(s)
 ahve sheared off, this too can be fixed with a small bolt and nut (ground
 down to clear the gear).

 If it is too far gone you will need to replace the regulator.  Also take
 the time to lube your slides, motor, etc. and check the plastic slides.

 --R

 On 11/10/11 10:46 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:


 I -think- I just need to pull the bottom of the motor toward the

 interior of the car, since it feels like straightening the motor



 The regulators are made of pot-metal, which is notorious
 for bending and/or breaking.  Nigh-unrepairable, too.  I
 suspect you'll end up needing another one.  Good luck!

 -- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] car-part.com?

[Dieselhead]

I use it frequently when i need a used part rather than something 
from Rusty.  I look at the low price ones and then call some of them. 
No use talking to the high price end.  They "know" because it is MB, 
it is worth the weight in gold   And I don't waste my time on the 
clods that don't list a price.






Anyone ever use this?  Seems to be just a central listing site for
various salvage yards to list what they have.  Any opinion on the
chances of finding a decent transmission for my 300SD there?

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Re: [MBZ] glow plug light won't go out 300d

[Dieselhead]

what year?  Bad relay?  12mm plugs or 13/16?

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Re: [MBZ] car-part.com?

[andrew strasfogel]

And you can have my spare 1985 300D engine with approx. 225 K miles and
perfect running condition for the same price.  Already out of the car and
ready for pickup. Build your car here!


On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Mike Esh  wrote:

> Alan, where are you located.  I have an 84 300SD with a professionally
> rebuilt tranny.   Less than 50,000 miles on tranny.  250,000 + miles with
> strong engine.  Complete running car for $1500.00. It has rust issues and
> typical hvac problems.
>
> Michael E. Esh
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2011, at 10:32 PM, Fred Moir  wrote:
>
> > http://nh.craigslist.org/pts/2687213914.html
> >
> > Fred Moir
> > Lynn MA
> > Diesel preferred
> >
> >
> > On 11/19/2011 7:57 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
> >> Anyone ever use this?  Seems to be just a central listing site for
> >> various salvage yards to list what they have.  Any opinion on the
> >> chances of finding a decent transmission for my 300SD there?
> >>
> >> Allan
> >>
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