Re: [MBZ] Not Iran

[Allan Streib]

Craig  writes:

> GM recalling Chevrolet Sonics to check brake pads
> http://www.sacbee.com/2011/12/30/4152861/gm-recalling-chevrolet-sonics.html
>
>
> General Motors Co. said on Friday that it is recalling more than 4,000 of
> its 2012 Chevrolet Sonic subcompact cars to check for missing brake pads.

MISSING?!?  Good grief.

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[MBZ] Not Iran

[Craig]

GM recalling Chevrolet Sonics to check brake pads
http://www.sacbee.com/2011/12/30/4152861/gm-recalling-chevrolet-sonics.html


General Motors Co. said on Friday that it is recalling more than 4,000 of
its 2012 Chevrolet Sonic subcompact cars to check for missing brake pads.

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Re: [MBZ] early W126

[Dieselhead]

Well it is the end of the 126 series 1

Looks nice.  Unusual color combination.  looks like gray/light gray. 
Might be nice.  doesn't look beaten.




I least i think this would be an early W126, no?

Looks like it might be nice.

http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/2770604739.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Dieselhead]

Rich Thomas  writes:


 He was somewhat intolerant of anyone pilfering around the homestead,
 especially if it was after dark, and said person was likely to end up
 with a load of bird shot in their person.  I do believe he let off a
 few rounds at various times for the benefit of those who did not have
 the benefit of understanding about such bidness.


Reminds me of a parody I heard of the song "Signs"...

"and the sign said anybody caught trespassing would be shot on sight. So
 I jumped the fence and I yelled at the house 'Hey! What gives you
 the...' " BANG!!!

Allan
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LOL  That is great.  I might change it to:



"and the sign said anybody caught trespassing would be shot on sight. So
 I jumped the fence and I yelled at the house 'Hey! What gives you

 the...' " BA-BOOM!

(as in 2 barrels of a 12 Ga side by side going off in close sequence.)

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Iran?

[Dieselhead]

Excellent use for neuÝ  ron we@pon ry 
Eliminates the problem, but leaves the 
infrastructure.  I think  Reagan had this figured 
out.


I still believe that if we had such an option, 
much sand in that part of the world should have 
been glass on Sept 12, 20 01


The the USA should had stood up and ok!  Next?

Those guys have a thing about the 12th imam or 
some such, who will only arrive when the world 
is in an armageddon type of situation, and they 
aim to hasten the arrival of the situation.  I 
gather they are somewhat whacked out over the 
possibility.


It is kinda hard to negotiate with someone who has a death wish of that sort.

--R

On 12/30/11 10:51 PM, G Mann wrote:

Only if we deliver it to them on a use immediately upon delivery plan.
Iran has after all declared war up the USA since Carter was President.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Allan Streib]

Rich Thomas  writes:

> He was somewhat intolerant of anyone pilfering around the homestead,
> especially if it was after dark, and said person was likely to end up
> with a load of bird shot in their person.  I do believe he let off a
> few rounds at various times for the benefit of those who did not have
> the benefit of understanding about such bidness.

Reminds me of a parody I heard of the song "Signs"...

"and the sign said anybody caught trespassing would be shot on sight. So
 I jumped the fence and I yelled at the house 'Hey! What gives you
 the...' " BANG!!!

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Iran?

[Rich Thomas]

Those guys have a thing about the 12th imam or some such, who will only 
arrive when the world is in an armageddon type of situation, and they 
aim to hasten the arrival of the situation.  I gather they are somewhat 
whacked out over the possibility.


It is kinda hard to negotiate with someone who has a death wish of that 
sort.


--R

On 12/30/11 10:51 PM, G Mann wrote:

Only if we deliver it to them on a use immediately upon delivery plan.
Iran has after all declared war up the USA since Carter was President.

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 8:28 PM, andrew strasfogelwrote:


And you're OK with Iran having a nuclear bomb?

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Mountain Man
wrote:


I did not hear the story on the radio, but I heard the headline just
before supper this evening.
War with Iran?
Someone is crazy, and it ain't Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
I think we need to get our house in good order before we decide to put
our mitts on the grip of that sabre.
However, I fully expect engagement in January - fools that this
country has become.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] early W126

[Rich Thomas]

That looks nice, and it has a gray interior!

--R

On 12/30/11 10:19 PM, Allan Streib wrote:

I least i think this would be an early W126, no?

Looks like it might be nice.

http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/2770604739.html

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Rich Thomas]

My granddaddy kept a loaded 12g twice barrel behind the bedroom door, 
and if any of us grandkids as much as looked at it sideways he would tan 
our hides and if his kids (our parents) said something he would threaten 
to tan theirs too.  We understood that shotgun was for taking care of 
bidness, and it was not our bidness.  He was somewhat intolerant of 
anyone pilfering around the homestead, especially if it was after dark, 
and said person was likely to end up with a load of bird shot in their 
person.  I do believe he let off a few rounds at various times for the 
benefit of those who did not have the benefit of understanding about 
such bidness.


--R

On 12/30/11 8:34 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
Also, when seconds count, locked up guns do not good.  Some may think 
I am wrong, but I do not believe in gun locks and keeping guns locked 
up around the house.  I used to have loaded guns in about every room, 
but I have scaled it back with 3 year old in the house and only keep 
a loaded .357 magnum hidden by my bed.  I believe in education about 
guns, not gun locks.  The other 2 kids were taught about guns when 
they were about 4-6 years old, not how to use them, but what they 
will do and not to touch them.  They never did try to mess with them 
or show any interest in trying to play with them.  I think its when 
you keep them a mystery kids try to mess with them. In another year 
will start showing the young one about guns.




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Re: [MBZ] Rusty and the web - was: Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? DieselKleenworks- maybe?

[Rich Thomas]

Rusty's prices are insaane

--R

On 12/30/11 8:49 PM, Michael Canfield wrote:

Current posted prices are for reference only.  Actual prices vary by
demand.  Please call for the best possible price.  We will meet or beat any
competitor's advertized price.

Sound good?  Competitors advertize a price, so should you.  I get
frustrated and close websites with no prices listed.  I know where I can
get the part, I need the price, that is why I look it up.

Mike
On Dec 30, 2011 4:47 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:


I would vote to leave them on.  If not for anything else, they provide a
point of reference, so if I am looking something up, I have a ballpark of
what it costs.

Do what you can to promote the "call for best price" angle, but leave the
prices there.

Dan


On Dec 30, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Fmiser wrote:


Rusty Cullens wrote:
I am seriously thinking of removing prices from the web site
and just saying that I will beat anyone's advertised price.
What do ya'll think? Especially since I carry so much that
isn't even on the site. The web actually only does about 10%
of my total volume anyway. Suggestions?

Well, I seem to often go looking for parts after hours.  When
the website has the part, I sure like having a general idea of
what the price is.

When I order, it's always on the 'phone though...

--   Philip


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Iran?

[G Mann]

Only if we deliver it to them on a use immediately upon delivery plan.
Iran has after all declared war up the USA since Carter was President.

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 8:28 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

> And you're OK with Iran having a nuclear bomb?
>
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Mountain Man 
> wrote:
>
> > I did not hear the story on the radio, but I heard the headline just
> > before supper this evening.
> > War with Iran?
> > Someone is crazy, and it ain't Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
> > I think we need to get our house in good order before we decide to put
> > our mitts on the grip of that sabre.
> > However, I fully expect engagement in January - fools that this
> > country has become.
> > mao
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Iran?

[andrew strasfogel]

And you're OK with Iran having a nuclear bomb?

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> I did not hear the story on the radio, but I heard the headline just
> before supper this evening.
> War with Iran?
> Someone is crazy, and it ain't Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
> I think we need to get our house in good order before we decide to put
> our mitts on the grip of that sabre.
> However, I fully expect engagement in January - fools that this
> country has become.
> mao
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[MBZ] early W126

[Allan Streib]

I least i think this would be an early W126, no?

Looks like it might be nice.

http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/2770604739.html

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[MBZ] 190E 5-speed

[Allan Streib]

http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/2775077847.html

Lots of little issues suggest that maintenance hasn't been kept up.

Not mine, etc.

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[MBZ] OT - Iran?

[Mountain Man]

I did not hear the story on the radio, but I heard the headline just
before supper this evening.
War with Iran?
Someone is crazy, and it ain't Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
I think we need to get our house in good order before we decide to put
our mitts on the grip of that sabre.
However, I fully expect engagement in January - fools that this
country has become.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Rusty and the web - was: Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? DieselKleenworks- maybe?

[Michael Canfield]

Current posted prices are for reference only.  Actual prices vary by
demand.  Please call for the best possible price.  We will meet or beat any
competitor's advertized price.

Sound good?  Competitors advertize a price, so should you.  I get
frustrated and close websites with no prices listed.  I know where I can
get the part, I need the price, that is why I look it up.

Mike
On Dec 30, 2011 4:47 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> I would vote to leave them on.  If not for anything else, they provide a
> point of reference, so if I am looking something up, I have a ballpark of
> what it costs.
>
> Do what you can to promote the "call for best price" angle, but leave the
> prices there.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Dec 30, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Fmiser wrote:
>
> >> Rusty Cullens wrote:
> >
> >> I am seriously thinking of removing prices from the web site
> >> and just saying that I will beat anyone's advertised price.
> >> What do ya'll think? Especially since I carry so much that
> >> isn't even on the site. The web actually only does about 10%
> >> of my total volume anyway. Suggestions?
> >
> > Well, I seem to often go looking for parts after hours.  When
> > the website has the part, I sure like having a general idea of
> > what the price is.
> >
> > When I order, it's always on the 'phone though...
> >
> > --   Philip
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Dieselhead]

I am sure it is very hard on the families when they lose a loved one to a
citizen defending himself or his home.  That is very sad.  But life is all
about making the right or the wrong choice.


I am more concerned about the families who have someone shot or 
otherwise killed by a repeat offender.  That especially stinks when 
the offender walks out of court and thumbs his nose (so to speak) at 
the family.


Equally sick is having someone killed by an illegal alien, and the 
illegal walks, or is sent out of the country and is back inside 
before the "escorts" get home.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Dieselhead]

Also, when seconds count, locked up guns do not good.  Some may 
think I am wrong, but I do not believe in gun locks and keeping guns 
locked up around the house.  I used to have loaded guns in about 
every room, but I have scaled it back with 3 year old in the house 
and only keep a loaded .357 magnum hidden by my bed.  I believe in 
education about guns, not gun locks.  The other 2 kids were taught 
about guns when they were about 4-6 years old, not how to use them, 
but what they will do and not to touch them.  They never did try to 
mess with them or show any interest in trying to play with them.  I 
think its when you keep them a mystery kids try to mess with them. 
In another year will start showing the young one about guns.




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was loaded and ready on top of the wardrobe.  My grandpa kept his 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Allan Streib]

"Kaleb C. Striplin"  writes:

> Well it was actually a pretty big surprise the guy even got thrown in
> jail here at all.  Usually people can go ahead and shoot other people
> around here who are in the middle of robbing them no problem.  For
> some reason they decided to make an example out of this guy.  People
> are really pissed about it around here for sure.

Probably had to do with emptying two clips into the guy.  "Abuse of a
corpse" or some such crime?

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Well it was actually a pretty big surprise the guy even got thrown in 
jail here at all.  Usually people can go ahead and shoot other people 
around here who are in the middle of robbing them no problem.  For some 
reason they decided to make an example out of this guy.  People are 
really pissed about it around here for sure.


Here is the story

http://abcnews.go.com/US/oklahoma-pharmacist-dead-robbers-accomplices-life-prison/story?id=14053802

And video of the crime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHshsgpsxFg

On 12/30/2011 6:41 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

If he was in Florida, he would probably have walked.  The "right to defend" 
laws here are pretty clear about one's ability to defend themselves against harm.

Sadly, there was a situation a year or two ago where an angry old man got 
pissed about some kids skateboarding in a public area in his neighborhood.  He 
went out, waving a gun to threaten them.  Another neighborhood resident, who 
was in the same area with his young daughter, confronted him about hassling the 
kids and the old guy shot and killed the man right in front of his daughter.

This is probably one of the times the right to defend law got stretched, as the 
judge just threw the case out on those grounds, as the old dude claimed he felt 
threatened by the guy.  I don't think the judge was happy about it, but the 
case law was pretty clear, so I don't think he had a choice.

Nothing is perfect, folks...

Dan

On Dec 30, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


We had a pharmacist here who got prison time, some punks came in to rob his 
store, he emptied his clip into one of them, the others ran away.  He then was 
so freaked out he went behind the counter, got another gun and emptied that one 
into the guy as well.  I think the guy should have got a medal.

On 12/30/2011 12:08 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Thankfully, this is now legal in Florida.

I'm not a pro-gun or no-gun advocate, but I have often had an issue with one's 
ability to defend one's home and personal space.

After reading the article, it's clear the perps were career scumbags and 
deserved what they got.  At least the one they targeted.  The one that got away 
will probably be on the street shortly (after they catch him.)

Dan


On Dec 30, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Scott and Gwen Ritchey wrote:


Got a haircut today and my barber seemed somewhat preoccupied.  Turns out
that an hour earlier, his grand nephew shot and killed one of several
intruders.  The grand nephew (age 14) and his sister (who was taking a
shower at the time) were home alone when they were startled by several armed
intruders who burst into the house.  The kid shot the one but the others
ran; the sheriff was searching for them last I heard.  I hope the kid
doesn't have any long-term psychological damage from this but otherwise I
consider it a very satisfactory solution to a bad situation.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Dieselhead]

It must be very difficult for the parents if one of their kids turns out

to be a criminal or an addict.

A guy I know had a 40ish son who was both.  He tried and tried to get 
his son to go to work, keep a job, and fly right.  The last time the 
son was out, he worked a few days, peddled drugs, took a rap for 
stealing guns (not sure if he was really involved or was just used as 
the patsy.  That time he got sent up to the fed pen and won't be out 
anytime soon.  That just about broke his dad's heart.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I always tell myself if I had a kid who did so and so I would have no 
issue just cutting them off and not having anything to do with them.  In 
reality, maybe is not so easy?


On 12/30/2011 6:16 PM, Allan Streib wrote:

Good parenting is unquestionably important, but I think Rich is right,
some people are just bad apples, just as some are born with physical
defects.  Likewise sometimes the most caring, unselfish people come out
of very difficult or unhappy childhoods.

It must be very difficult for the parents if one of their kids turns out
to be a criminal or an addict.  I think if such a son or daughter is to
have any chance of changing or at least reigning in his/her criminal or
self-destructive tendencies it's important that the parents do not
enable that behavior out of sympathy, and it's important for their own
sanity to find a way to accept that adult children make their own
choices and that as adults they have to live with the consequences.


"WILTON"  writes:


It saddens me deeply, too.  It all starts on Mammy and Daddy's laps
and at their knees and, in too many cases, lack thereof.

Wilton

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Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender



I have a cousin who grew older to become a basic dumbass, thief and
such, spent some time in the Big House, but his brother is an
upstanding guy. Given the same parents and upbringing, I have been
struggling to determine what causes such differences.  I think a lot
of it is the culture a kid grows up in (includes the family and
community culture) but I think genetics (and maybe illnesses one
gets growing up) plays a strong role too. Some get dealt some genes
that disposes them to behaviors or addictions through mental and
physical (which also includes the organic aspect of mental)
differences from others who do not do such things.  And some of it
is just they decide to be the way they are in spite of knowing
better.

But mostly I think the kinds of guys we have been discussing are
basically a product of a culture that does not see such behavior as
being particularly bad, or good productive behavior as being, well,
good and productive.  Parents have a lot to do with that, but their
peers and community shape it a lot too.

In some ways I feel justice is done when a perp gets immediate
punishment, but I am also saddened by the loss of someone who could
have been better if family, friends, or community could have steered
him better.

But, Darwin lives...

--R

On 12/30/11 4:36 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:

I have to say this is a sad commentary in many ways.

We have to feel sorry for the folks who were invaded by hoodlums
and feel sorry for the poor kid who felt he had to shoot someone to
protect himself but no one has yet commented on the kid who was
killed or his family etc.

One has to wonder why someone ends up in a scenario like this. Most
of us are not born to a life of crime. Some may be trained by
parents who are as bad or worse than the kids end up but sometimes
the parents are law abiding citizens who must be wondering how and
where they went wrong.

Illegal Drugs are a likely issue in something like this. One
wonders why some people fall victim to this sort of thing and
others do not. I have to wonder and be thankful that my kids have
not fallen into this trap. I have a niece (or at least my good wife
has a niece, if we follow blood lines and the legal definition of
niece ) who has fallen into the drug world. She periodically dusts
herself off and tries to come back but it does not appear to be
possible. She ha sno self esteem  and seems to lack the mental
capacity of a normal adult. I have to think that she has fried
enough brain cells to make it impossible for her to ever be
normal. A sad thing as she is a pretty girl and could have had the
world by the tail if she had just stayed away from the crack. We
assume one day we will hear that she is dead. I assume it will not
be because she was shot during a home invasion but assume it will
either be an overdose or that she was beaten to death by some of
the scumbags she hangs out with whenever she falls off the wagon.

I have watched her grow up since she was born and cannot fault her
mother. Her father has not been in the picture since she was an
toddler. He was a hopeless alcoholic the last time I saw him which
is a long while back.

When she ends up dead, her mother is going to be very upset. I
suggest it is likely that the young man shot in this incident has a
mother somewhere who may well feel the same.

Randy



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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Knowing Kroger, he will probably be fired.

On 12/30/2011 6:06 PM, Allan Streib wrote:

Dieselhead<126die...@gmail.com>  writes:


Too bad he didn't get a mortal shot off at a second one.  But Hooray!
It is nice when Justice is swift.  And, the nephew can't be
persecuted, because he is a minor.   Most jurisdictions would haul in
the nephew and treat him like a criminal.

Earlier this week, in Indianapolis, a Kroger manager shot and killed a
man who was in the process of robbing the store and holding another
employee at gunpoint.

According to news reports, there are no plans to charge the manager with
any crime, though it's uncertain whether he will face any consequences
from Kroger for violating their weapons policy.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

The cops around here will tell you if you shoot somebody on your 
property and they are on your front porch, just please drag them inside 
before calling the cops.


On 12/30/2011 5:45 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
Too bad he didn't get a mortal shot off at a second one.  But Hooray! 
It is nice when Justice is swift.  And, the nephew can't be 
persecuted, because he is a minor.   Most jurisdictions would haul in 
the nephew and treat him like a criminal.



Got a haircut today and my barber seemed somewhat preoccupied.  Turns 
out

that an hour earlier, his grand nephew shot and killed one of several
intruders.  The grand nephew (age 14) and his sister (who was taking a
shower at the time) were home alone when they were startled by 
several armed

intruders who burst into the house.  The kid shot the one but the others
ran; the sheriff was searching for them last I heard.  I hope the kid
doesn't have any long-term psychological damage from this but 
otherwise I

consider it a very satisfactory solution to a bad situation.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Also, when seconds count, locked up guns do not good.  Some may think I 
am wrong, but I do not believe in gun locks and keeping guns locked up 
around the house.  I used to have loaded guns in about every room, but I 
have scaled it back with 3 year old in the house and only keep a loaded 
.357 magnum hidden by my bed.  I believe in education about guns, not 
gun locks.  The other 2 kids were taught about guns when they were about 
4-6 years old, not how to use them, but what they will do and not to 
touch them.  They never did try to mess with them or show any interest 
in trying to play with them.  I think its when you keep them a mystery 
kids try to mess with them.  In another year will start showing the 
young one about guns.


On 12/30/2011 4:47 PM, G Mann wrote:

As for the young man who defended himself and protected his sister. When
seconds count, the police are only minutes away.  Live is about making
choices, he choose to live and have his sister live. All choices we make
are not easy ones. He made a hard one.

As for the young men who invaded the home, armed, with intent to do harm.
They also had the ability to make both good and bad choices, all the way to
the end. They made the choices they did and reaped the rewards of them.
Unfortunately, when an individual makes bad choices it often impacts
others. In this case, their own families. Those families now have to make
choices about how to deal with the bad choices the young men made.  In this
case, it involves a funeral rather than how to visit them in jail, however,
actions always have results.

Contrary to present "feel good" "self esteem" teaching, in the real world
you are held accountable for your actions.

Grant...
AZ

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:


I have to say this is a sad commentary in many ways.

We have to feel sorry for the folks who were invaded by hoodlums and feel
sorry for the poor kid who felt he had to shoot someone to protect himself
but no one has yet commented on the kid who was killed or his family etc.

One has to wonder why someone ends up in a scenario like this. Most of us
are not born to a life of crime. Some may be trained by parents who are as
bad or worse than the kids end up but sometimes the parents are law abiding
citizens who must be wondering how and where they went wrong.

Illegal Drugs are a likely issue in something like this. One wonders why
some people fall victim to this sort of thing and others do not. I have to
wonder and be thankful that my kids have not fallen into this trap. I have
a niece (or at least my good wife has a niece, if we follow blood lines and
the legal definition of niece ) who has fallen into the drug world. She
periodically dusts herself off and tries to come back but it does not
appear to be possible. She ha sno self esteem  and seems to lack the mental
capacity of a normal adult. I have to think that she has fried enough brain
cells to make it impossible for her to ever be normal. A sad thing as she
is a pretty girl and could have had the world by the tail if she had just
stayed away from the crack. We assume one day we will hear that she is
dead. I assume it will not be because she was shot during a home invasion
but assume it will either be an overdose or that she was beaten to death by
some of the scumbags she hangs out with whenever she falls off the wagon.

I have watched her grow up since she was born and cannot fault her mother.
Her father has not been in the picture since she was an toddler. He was a
hopeless alcoholic the last time I saw him which is a long while back.

When she ends up dead, her mother is going to be very upset. I suggest it
is likely that the young man shot in this incident has a mother somewhere
who may well feel the same.

Randy



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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Dan Penoff]

East side of town, I'll bet.  Everybody on the Southside (and Westside) 
packs.  I grew up on the Southside, and it was understood that a lot of people 
carried guns.  Even when I was living there a couple of years ago it was not 
uncommon to see people 
wearing sidearms in public, like at Wallyworld and restaurants.  Just think of 
the ones who have concealed carry permits

I'll bet that Kroger gets rid of him.  Too bad - more people like him and there 
would be a lot fewer crimes like this, I'll bet.

Some urban dweller robbed a small convenience store in St. Petersburg a couple 
of nights ago and blew the counter person away, as I understand it.  Downtown 
St. Pete is probably one of the rougher places around here.

Dan no longer in Indy and glad


On Dec 30, 2011, at 7:06 PM, Allan Streib wrote:

> Earlier this week, in Indianapolis, a Kroger manager shot and killed a
> man who was in the process of robbing the store and holding another
> employee at gunpoint.
> 
> According to news reports, there are no plans to charge the manager with
> any crime, though it's uncertain whether he will face any consequences
> from Kroger for violating their weapons policy.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Dan Penoff]

If he was in Florida, he would probably have walked.  The "right to defend" 
laws here are pretty clear about one's ability to defend themselves against 
harm.

Sadly, there was a situation a year or two ago where an angry old man got 
pissed about some kids skateboarding in a public area in his neighborhood.  He 
went out, waving a gun to threaten them.  Another neighborhood resident, who 
was in the same area with his young daughter, confronted him about hassling the 
kids and the old guy shot and killed the man right in front of his daughter.

This is probably one of the times the right to defend law got stretched, as the 
judge just threw the case out on those grounds, as the old dude claimed he felt 
threatened by the guy.  I don't think the judge was happy about it, but the 
case law was pretty clear, so I don't think he had a choice.

Nothing is perfect, folks...

Dan

On Dec 30, 2011, at 7:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> We had a pharmacist here who got prison time, some punks came in to rob his 
> store, he emptied his clip into one of them, the others ran away.  He then 
> was so freaked out he went behind the counter, got another gun and emptied 
> that one into the guy as well.  I think the guy should have got a medal.
> 
> On 12/30/2011 12:08 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
>> Thankfully, this is now legal in Florida.
>> 
>> I'm not a pro-gun or no-gun advocate, but I have often had an issue with 
>> one's ability to defend one's home and personal space.
>> 
>> After reading the article, it's clear the perps were career scumbags and 
>> deserved what they got.  At least the one they targeted.  The one that got 
>> away will probably be on the street shortly (after they catch him.)
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 30, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Scott and Gwen Ritchey wrote:
>> 
>>> Got a haircut today and my barber seemed somewhat preoccupied.  Turns out
>>> that an hour earlier, his grand nephew shot and killed one of several
>>> intruders.  The grand nephew (age 14) and his sister (who was taking a
>>> shower at the time) were home alone when they were startled by several armed
>>> intruders who burst into the house.  The kid shot the one but the others
>>> ran; the sheriff was searching for them last I heard.  I hope the kid
>>> doesn't have any long-term psychological damage from this but otherwise I
>>> consider it a very satisfactory solution to a bad situation.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Well take me for example, I am a fine upstanding person, in management 
for my employer, take care of my kids, dont drink, smoke, etc.  My 
brother on the other hand is a drunk, smokes pot, sucks all the money he 
can out of my parents, my father being a disabled vet.  He has 3 kids 
from 2 different women who he does not pay child support for.  Has not 
done any hard time but has had several DUI and that sort of thing.  He 
moved down here from Alaska, last year, year before something like 
that.  Lived with my dad for a year and a half, never paid a dime to 
him, was sucking unemployement even though he quit his job.  Still cant 
figure out that one.  Did pay for food, any of the bills, nothing.  My 
mother paid to fly his kids down here for a visit from alaska, and while 
they were here he got my dad to pay for them a little mini vacation for 
several days in OKC.  All that time living for free, getting money he 
did not earn etc.  Only difference in our raising is he went to live 
with mom when he was 8 and I was 12 at the time and went to live with my 
dad.


On 12/30/2011 4:47 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
I have a cousin who grew older to become a basic dumbass, thief and 
such, spent some time in the Big House, but his brother is an 
upstanding guy.  Given the same parents and upbringing, I have been 
struggling to determine what causes such differences.  I think a lot 
of it is the culture a kid grows up in (includes the family and 
community culture) but I think genetics (and maybe illnesses one gets 
growing up) plays a strong role too.  Some get dealt some genes that 
disposes them to behaviors or addictions through mental and physical 
(which also includes the organic aspect of mental) differences from 
others who do not do such things.  And some of it is just they decide 
to be the way they are in spite of knowing better.


But mostly I think the kinds of guys we have been discussing are 
basically a product of a culture that does not see such behavior as 
being particularly bad, or good productive behavior as being, well, 
good and productive.  Parents have a lot to do with that, but their 
peers and community shape it a lot too.


In some ways I feel justice is done when a perp gets immediate 
punishment, but I am also saddened by the loss of someone who could 
have been better if family, friends, or community could have steered 
him better.


But, Darwin lives...

--R

On 12/30/11 4:36 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:

I have to say this is a sad commentary in many ways.

We have to feel sorry for the folks who were invaded by hoodlums and 
feel sorry for the poor kid who felt he had to shoot someone to 
protect himself but no one has yet commented on the kid who was 
killed or his family etc.


One has to wonder why someone ends up in a scenario like this. Most 
of us are not born to a life of crime. Some may be trained by parents 
who are as bad or worse than the kids end up but sometimes the 
parents are law abiding citizens who must be wondering how and where 
they went wrong.


Illegal Drugs are a likely issue in something like this. One wonders 
why some people fall victim to this sort of thing and others do not. 
I have to wonder and be thankful that my kids have not fallen into 
this trap. I have a niece (or at least my good wife has a niece, if 
we follow blood lines and the legal definition of niece ) who has 
fallen into the drug world. She periodically dusts herself off and 
tries to come back but it does not appear to be possible. She ha sno 
self esteem  and seems to lack the mental capacity of a normal adult. 
I have to think that she has fried enough brain cells to make it 
impossible for her to ever be normal. A sad thing as she is a pretty 
girl and could have had the world by the tail if she had just stayed 
away from the crack. We assume one day we will hear that she is dead. 
I assume it will not be because she was shot during a home invasion 
but assume it will either be an overdose or that she was beaten to 
death by some of the scumbags she hangs out with whenever she falls 
off the wagon.


I have watched her grow up since she was born and cannot fault her 
mother. Her father has not been in the picture since she was an 
toddler. He was a hopeless alcoholic the last time I saw him which is 
a long while back.


When she ends up dead, her mother is going to be very upset. I 
suggest it is likely that the young man shot in this incident has a 
mother somewhere who may well feel the same.


Randy



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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Greg Fiorentino]

Sure we have all made our mistakes and might say "There but for the grace of
God..." People should be ready to give a second and third chance when
someone transgresses.  However, when someone sets out to commit a violent
crime or break in to someone's home it's time to put a stop to that real
quick.  Obviously our legal system the way things are today is not very
effective at doing that.

I am sure it is very hard on the families when they lose a loved one to a
citizen defending himself or his home.  That is very sad.  But life is all
about making the right or the wrong choice.  Often people make the wrong
choice and create a very poor outcome for those close to them.  Ultimately
the responsibility for that poor outcome rests on the shoulders of the one
who made the wrong choice.

Ultimately no matter what the genetics, environment, family life, illnesses,
bad luck etc, it is all about arriving at a decision point and making a very
wrong choice.  That is the nature of being a human.

Greg

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On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

I have a cousin who grew older to become a basic dumbass, thief and 
such, spent some time in the Big House, but his brother is an upstanding 
guy.  Given the same parents and upbringing, I have been struggling to 
determine what causes such differences.  I think a lot of it is the 
culture a kid grows up in (includes the family and community culture) 
but I think genetics (and maybe illnesses one gets growing up) plays a 
strong role too.  Some get dealt some genes that disposes them to 
behaviors or addictions through mental and physical (which also includes 
the organic aspect of mental) differences from others who do not do such 
things.  And some of it is just they decide to be the way they are in 
spite of knowing better.

But mostly I think the kinds of guys we have been discussing are 
basically a product of a culture that does not see such behavior as 
being particularly bad, or good productive behavior as being, well, good 
and productive.  Parents have a lot to do with that, but their peers and 
community shape it a lot too.

In some ways I feel justice is done when a perp gets immediate 
punishment, but I am also saddened by the loss of someone who could have 
been better if family, friends, or community could have steered him better.

But, Darwin lives...

--R

On 12/30/11 4:36 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
> I have to say this is a sad commentary in many ways.
>
> We have to feel sorry for the folks who were invaded by hoodlums and 
> feel sorry for the poor kid who felt he had to shoot someone to 
> protect himself but no one has yet commented on the kid who was killed 
> or his family etc.
>
> One has to wonder why someone ends up in a scenario like this. Most of 
> us are not born to a life of crime. Some may be trained by parents who 
> are as bad or worse than the kids end up but sometimes the parents are 
> law abiding citizens who must be wondering how and where they went wrong.
>
> Illegal Drugs are a likely issue in something like this. One wonders 
> why some people fall victim to this sort of thing and others do not. I 
> have to wonder and be thankful that my kids have not fallen into this 
> trap. I have a niece (or at least my good wife has a niece, if we 
> follow blood lines and the legal definition of niece ) who has fallen 
> into the drug world. She periodically dusts herself off and tries to 
> come back but it does not appear to be possible. She ha sno self 
> esteem  and seems to lack the mental capacity of a normal adult. I 
> have to think that she has fried enough brain cells to make it 
> impossible for her to ever be normal. A sad thing as she is a pretty 
> girl and could have had the world by the tail if she had just stayed 
> away from the crack. We assume one day we will hear that she is dead. 
> I assume it will not be because she was shot during a home invasion 
> but assume it will either be an overdose or that she was beaten to 
> death by some of the scumbags she hangs out with whenever she falls 
> off the wagon.
>
> I have watched her grow up since she was born and cannot fault her 
> mother. Her father has not been in the picture since she was an 
> toddler. He was a hopeless alcoholic the last time I saw him which is 
> a long while back.
>
> When she ends up dead, her mother is going to be very upset. I suggest 
> it is likely that the young man shot in this incident has a mother 
> somewhere who may well feel the same.
>
> Randy
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

We had a pharmacist here who got prison time, some punks came in to rob 
his store, he emptied his clip into one of them, the others ran away.  
He then was so freaked out he went behind the counter, got another gun 
and emptied that one into the guy as well.  I think the guy should have 
got a medal.


On 12/30/2011 12:08 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Thankfully, this is now legal in Florida.

I'm not a pro-gun or no-gun advocate, but I have often had an issue with one's 
ability to defend one's home and personal space.

After reading the article, it's clear the perps were career scumbags and 
deserved what they got.  At least the one they targeted.  The one that got away 
will probably be on the street shortly (after they catch him.)

Dan


On Dec 30, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Scott and Gwen Ritchey wrote:


Got a haircut today and my barber seemed somewhat preoccupied.  Turns out
that an hour earlier, his grand nephew shot and killed one of several
intruders.  The grand nephew (age 14) and his sister (who was taking a
shower at the time) were home alone when they were startled by several armed
intruders who burst into the house.  The kid shot the one but the others
ran; the sheriff was searching for them last I heard.  I hope the kid
doesn't have any long-term psychological damage from this but otherwise I
consider it a very satisfactory solution to a bad situation.



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Re: [MBZ] Door locks

[Curt Raymond]

Used up and then sold ;)

When I sold the locks to Loren I didn't realize I had this problem. The other 
day I locked the car in the current cold snap and realized it ought to be 
cleaned and properly lubricated and then noticed the lack of the little door...

-Curt

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:20:23 -0500
From: "WILTON" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Door locks
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Oh, so you sold or used up those I sent to you?   ;<)))

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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Allan Streib]

Good parenting is unquestionably important, but I think Rich is right,
some people are just bad apples, just as some are born with physical
defects.  Likewise sometimes the most caring, unselfish people come out
of very difficult or unhappy childhoods.

It must be very difficult for the parents if one of their kids turns out
to be a criminal or an addict.  I think if such a son or daughter is to
have any chance of changing or at least reigning in his/her criminal or
self-destructive tendencies it's important that the parents do not
enable that behavior out of sympathy, and it's important for their own
sanity to find a way to accept that adult children make their own
choices and that as adults they have to live with the consequences.


"WILTON"  writes:

> It saddens me deeply, too.  It all starts on Mammy and Daddy's laps
> and at their knees and, in too many cases, lack thereof.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Rich Thomas" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 5:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender
>
>
>> I have a cousin who grew older to become a basic dumbass, thief and
>> such, spent some time in the Big House, but his brother is an
>> upstanding guy. Given the same parents and upbringing, I have been
>> struggling to determine what causes such differences.  I think a lot
>> of it is the culture a kid grows up in (includes the family and
>> community culture) but I think genetics (and maybe illnesses one
>> gets growing up) plays a strong role too. Some get dealt some genes
>> that disposes them to behaviors or addictions through mental and
>> physical (which also includes the organic aspect of mental)
>> differences from others who do not do such things.  And some of it
>> is just they decide to be the way they are in spite of knowing
>> better.
>>
>> But mostly I think the kinds of guys we have been discussing are
>> basically a product of a culture that does not see such behavior as
>> being particularly bad, or good productive behavior as being, well,
>> good and productive.  Parents have a lot to do with that, but their
>> peers and community shape it a lot too.
>>
>> In some ways I feel justice is done when a perp gets immediate
>> punishment, but I am also saddened by the loss of someone who could
>> have been better if family, friends, or community could have steered
>> him better.
>>
>> But, Darwin lives...
>>
>> --R
>>
>> On 12/30/11 4:36 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
>>> I have to say this is a sad commentary in many ways.
>>>
>>> We have to feel sorry for the folks who were invaded by hoodlums
>>> and feel sorry for the poor kid who felt he had to shoot someone to
>>> protect himself but no one has yet commented on the kid who was
>>> killed or his family etc.
>>>
>>> One has to wonder why someone ends up in a scenario like this. Most
>>> of us are not born to a life of crime. Some may be trained by
>>> parents who are as bad or worse than the kids end up but sometimes
>>> the parents are law abiding citizens who must be wondering how and
>>> where they went wrong.
>>>
>>> Illegal Drugs are a likely issue in something like this. One
>>> wonders why some people fall victim to this sort of thing and
>>> others do not. I have to wonder and be thankful that my kids have
>>> not fallen into this trap. I have a niece (or at least my good wife
>>> has a niece, if we follow blood lines and the legal definition of
>>> niece ) who has fallen into the drug world. She periodically dusts
>>> herself off and tries to come back but it does not appear to be
>>> possible. She ha sno self esteem  and seems to lack the mental
>>> capacity of a normal adult. I have to think that she has fried
>>> enough brain cells to make it impossible for her to ever be
>>> normal. A sad thing as she is a pretty girl and could have had the
>>> world by the tail if she had just stayed away from the crack. We
>>> assume one day we will hear that she is dead. I assume it will not
>>> be because she was shot during a home invasion but assume it will
>>> either be an overdose or that she was beaten to death by some of
>>> the scumbags she hangs out with whenever she falls off the wagon.
>>>
>>> I have watched her grow up since she was born and cannot fault her
>>> mother. Her father has not been in the picture since she was an
>>> toddler. He was a hopeless alcoholic the last time I saw him which
>>> is a long while back.
>>>
>>> When she ends up dead, her mother is going to be very upset. I
>>> suggest it is likely that the young man shot in this incident has a
>>> mother somewhere who may well feel the same.
>>>
>>> Randy
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Allan Streib]

Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> writes:

> Too bad he didn't get a mortal shot off at a second one.  But Hooray!
> It is nice when Justice is swift.  And, the nephew can't be
> persecuted, because he is a minor.   Most jurisdictions would haul in
> the nephew and treat him like a criminal.

Earlier this week, in Indianapolis, a Kroger manager shot and killed a
man who was in the process of robbing the store and holding another
employee at gunpoint.

According to news reports, there are no plans to charge the manager with
any crime, though it's uncertain whether he will face any consequences
from Kroger for violating their weapons policy.

Allan

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1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] Door locks

[Dieselhead]

Curt,

I can try to get the new ones installed, then send you my old ones. 
Can you wait a week or 10 days?   Figgers,, it is nice now while I am 
gone, and supposed to get cold and nasty as soon as I get home 
Tuesday.




Anybody got some old 123 door locks hanging around they want to get 
rid of? Specifically the lock cylinders with the little flap that 
closes so water doesn't get in. My 240D has one where the door is 
stuck which seems pretty common on the driver's door.


Q says to get a replacement we need to replace the whole door handle 
which is apparently pretty pricey.


Also if I had a couple extra sets of wafers I could probably re-key 
my ignition lock so it matched the doors. Thats pretty easy if you 
have a bunch of extra wafers. Sadly I foolishly sold all my extra 
locks to Loren last fall.


-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[WILTON]

It saddens me deeply, too.  It all starts on Mammy and Daddy's laps and at 
their knees and, in too many cases, lack thereof.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender


I have a cousin who grew older to become a basic dumbass, thief and such, 
spent some time in the Big House, but his brother is an upstanding guy. 
Given the same parents and upbringing, I have been struggling to determine 
what causes such differences.  I think a lot of it is the culture a kid 
grows up in (includes the family and community culture) but I think 
genetics (and maybe illnesses one gets growing up) plays a strong role too. 
Some get dealt some genes that disposes them to behaviors or addictions 
through mental and physical (which also includes the organic aspect of 
mental) differences from others who do not do such things.  And some of it 
is just they decide to be the way they are in spite of knowing better.


But mostly I think the kinds of guys we have been discussing are basically 
a product of a culture that does not see such behavior as being 
particularly bad, or good productive behavior as being, well, good and 
productive.  Parents have a lot to do with that, but their peers and 
community shape it a lot too.


In some ways I feel justice is done when a perp gets immediate punishment, 
but I am also saddened by the loss of someone who could have been better 
if family, friends, or community could have steered him better.


But, Darwin lives...

--R

On 12/30/11 4:36 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:

I have to say this is a sad commentary in many ways.

We have to feel sorry for the folks who were invaded by hoodlums and feel 
sorry for the poor kid who felt he had to shoot someone to protect 
himself but no one has yet commented on the kid who was killed or his 
family etc.


One has to wonder why someone ends up in a scenario like this. Most of us 
are not born to a life of crime. Some may be trained by parents who are 
as bad or worse than the kids end up but sometimes the parents are law 
abiding citizens who must be wondering how and where they went wrong.


Illegal Drugs are a likely issue in something like this. One wonders why 
some people fall victim to this sort of thing and others do not. I have 
to wonder and be thankful that my kids have not fallen into this trap. I 
have a niece (or at least my good wife has a niece, if we follow blood 
lines and the legal definition of niece ) who has fallen into the drug 
world. She periodically dusts herself off and tries to come back but it 
does not appear to be possible. She ha sno self esteem  and seems to lack 
the mental capacity of a normal adult. I have to think that she has fried 
enough brain cells to make it impossible for her to ever be normal. A sad 
thing as she is a pretty girl and could have had the world by the tail if 
she had just stayed away from the crack. We assume one day we will hear 
that she is dead. I assume it will not be because she was shot during a 
home invasion but assume it will either be an overdose or that she was 
beaten to death by some of the scumbags she hangs out with whenever she 
falls off the wagon.


I have watched her grow up since she was born and cannot fault her 
mother. Her father has not been in the picture since she was an toddler. 
He was a hopeless alcoholic the last time I saw him which is a long while 
back.


When she ends up dead, her mother is going to be very upset. I suggest it 
is likely that the young man shot in this incident has a mother somewhere 
who may well feel the same.


Randy



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Re: [MBZ] Door locks

[WILTON]

Oh, so you sold or used up those I sent to you?   ;<)))

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond" 

To: "Diesel List" 
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 3:44 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Door locks


Anybody got some old 123 door locks hanging around they want to get rid 
of? Specifically the lock cylinders with the little flap that closes so 
water doesn't get in. My 240D has one where the door is stuck which seems 
pretty common on the driver's door.


Q says to get a replacement we need to replace the whole door handle which 
is apparently pretty pricey.


Also if I had a couple extra sets of wafers I could probably re-key my 
ignition lock so it matched the doors. Thats pretty easy if you have a 
bunch of extra wafers. Sadly I foolishly sold all my extra locks to Loren 
last fall.


-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? DieselKleenworks- maybe?

[Dieselhead]

I think it is good to have them as a reference.  As Craig said, we 
know it won't cost us more than the web price...




I am seriously thinking of removing prices from the web site and 
just saying that I will beat anyone's advertised price. What do 
ya'll think? Especially since I carry so much that isn't even on the 
site. The web actually only does about 10% of my total volume 
anyway. Suggestions?



Rusty Cullens
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www.buyMBparts.biz
www.buyEUROparts.biz
www.buyASIANparts.biz
Tel/ 1-800-741-5252
Fax/ 770-454-9745
ICQ 427542441
AIM BuyMBparts

- Original Message - From: "Larry" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? 
DieselKleenworks- maybe?


Rusty carries everything - and I didn't order anything from PP - 
but I did spend around $1800 for a AT from Rusty not long ago - and 
the only reason I went with Rusty was his record of service both on 
the phone and on the ist  -- but still, you gotta know what the 
competition is doing -


sorry - maybe I shouldn't have mentioned PP.

Larry

-Original Message- From: Curt Raymond
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:27 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? Diesel 
Kleenworks- maybe?


Besides which, who is Pelican parts? What have they ever done for 
you? How often do they post on the list with help? How often do 
they look stuff up when you post it on the list as a general query?


For $10 you'll walk away from Rusty? Remind me to price other oil labs...
Sorry for hitting below the belt but I can't believe Larry even 
went down this road. Especially for $10. If we were talking $100 or 
if it were something Rusty didn't carry then maybe...


-Curt

Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 16:56:09 -0600
From: Rick Knoble 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? Diesel
   Kleenworks- maybe?
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Dec 29, 2011, at 4:49 PM, "Larry"  wrote:

Close, but no cigar - Pelican Parts (www.pelicanparts.com)  has 
them for $73.75 ea plus Core.   Rusty has them for $75.97 plus 
$11.90 core.



He quoted me a better price on the phone. Ya gotta call for the 
best deals. Rusty was NOT BS'ing when he said he would match or 
beat anyone's price.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[G Mann]

As for the young man who defended himself and protected his sister. When
seconds count, the police are only minutes away.  Live is about making
choices, he choose to live and have his sister live. All choices we make
are not easy ones. He made a hard one.

As for the young men who invaded the home, armed, with intent to do harm.
They also had the ability to make both good and bad choices, all the way to
the end. They made the choices they did and reaped the rewards of them.
Unfortunately, when an individual makes bad choices it often impacts
others. In this case, their own families. Those families now have to make
choices about how to deal with the bad choices the young men made.  In this
case, it involves a funeral rather than how to visit them in jail, however,
actions always have results.

Contrary to present "feel good" "self esteem" teaching, in the real world
you are held accountable for your actions.

Grant...
AZ

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

> I have to say this is a sad commentary in many ways.
>
> We have to feel sorry for the folks who were invaded by hoodlums and feel
> sorry for the poor kid who felt he had to shoot someone to protect himself
> but no one has yet commented on the kid who was killed or his family etc.
>
> One has to wonder why someone ends up in a scenario like this. Most of us
> are not born to a life of crime. Some may be trained by parents who are as
> bad or worse than the kids end up but sometimes the parents are law abiding
> citizens who must be wondering how and where they went wrong.
>
> Illegal Drugs are a likely issue in something like this. One wonders why
> some people fall victim to this sort of thing and others do not. I have to
> wonder and be thankful that my kids have not fallen into this trap. I have
> a niece (or at least my good wife has a niece, if we follow blood lines and
> the legal definition of niece ) who has fallen into the drug world. She
> periodically dusts herself off and tries to come back but it does not
> appear to be possible. She ha sno self esteem  and seems to lack the mental
> capacity of a normal adult. I have to think that she has fried enough brain
> cells to make it impossible for her to ever be normal. A sad thing as she
> is a pretty girl and could have had the world by the tail if she had just
> stayed away from the crack. We assume one day we will hear that she is
> dead. I assume it will not be because she was shot during a home invasion
> but assume it will either be an overdose or that she was beaten to death by
> some of the scumbags she hangs out with whenever she falls off the wagon.
>
> I have watched her grow up since she was born and cannot fault her mother.
> Her father has not been in the picture since she was an toddler. He was a
> hopeless alcoholic the last time I saw him which is a long while back.
>
> When she ends up dead, her mother is going to be very upset. I suggest it
> is likely that the young man shot in this incident has a mother somewhere
> who may well feel the same.
>
> Randy
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Rich Thomas]

I have a cousin who grew older to become a basic dumbass, thief and 
such, spent some time in the Big House, but his brother is an upstanding 
guy.  Given the same parents and upbringing, I have been struggling to 
determine what causes such differences.  I think a lot of it is the 
culture a kid grows up in (includes the family and community culture) 
but I think genetics (and maybe illnesses one gets growing up) plays a 
strong role too.  Some get dealt some genes that disposes them to 
behaviors or addictions through mental and physical (which also includes 
the organic aspect of mental) differences from others who do not do such 
things.  And some of it is just they decide to be the way they are in 
spite of knowing better.


But mostly I think the kinds of guys we have been discussing are 
basically a product of a culture that does not see such behavior as 
being particularly bad, or good productive behavior as being, well, good 
and productive.  Parents have a lot to do with that, but their peers and 
community shape it a lot too.


In some ways I feel justice is done when a perp gets immediate 
punishment, but I am also saddened by the loss of someone who could have 
been better if family, friends, or community could have steered him better.


But, Darwin lives...

--R

On 12/30/11 4:36 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:

I have to say this is a sad commentary in many ways.

We have to feel sorry for the folks who were invaded by hoodlums and 
feel sorry for the poor kid who felt he had to shoot someone to 
protect himself but no one has yet commented on the kid who was killed 
or his family etc.


One has to wonder why someone ends up in a scenario like this. Most of 
us are not born to a life of crime. Some may be trained by parents who 
are as bad or worse than the kids end up but sometimes the parents are 
law abiding citizens who must be wondering how and where they went wrong.


Illegal Drugs are a likely issue in something like this. One wonders 
why some people fall victim to this sort of thing and others do not. I 
have to wonder and be thankful that my kids have not fallen into this 
trap. I have a niece (or at least my good wife has a niece, if we 
follow blood lines and the legal definition of niece ) who has fallen 
into the drug world. She periodically dusts herself off and tries to 
come back but it does not appear to be possible. She ha sno self 
esteem  and seems to lack the mental capacity of a normal adult. I 
have to think that she has fried enough brain cells to make it 
impossible for her to ever be normal. A sad thing as she is a pretty 
girl and could have had the world by the tail if she had just stayed 
away from the crack. We assume one day we will hear that she is dead. 
I assume it will not be because she was shot during a home invasion 
but assume it will either be an overdose or that she was beaten to 
death by some of the scumbags she hangs out with whenever she falls 
off the wagon.


I have watched her grow up since she was born and cannot fault her 
mother. Her father has not been in the picture since she was an 
toddler. He was a hopeless alcoholic the last time I saw him which is 
a long while back.


When she ends up dead, her mother is going to be very upset. I suggest 
it is likely that the young man shot in this incident has a mother 
somewhere who may well feel the same.


Randy



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Re: [MBZ] Rusty and the web - was: Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? DieselKleenworks- maybe?

[Dan Penoff]

I would vote to leave them on.  If not for anything else, they provide a point 
of reference, so if I am looking something up, I have a ballpark of what it 
costs.

Do what you can to promote the "call for best price" angle, but leave the 
prices there.

Dan


On Dec 30, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Fmiser wrote:

>> Rusty Cullens wrote:
> 
>> I am seriously thinking of removing prices from the web site
>> and just saying that I will beat anyone's advertised price.
>> What do ya'll think? Especially since I carry so much that
>> isn't even on the site. The web actually only does about 10%
>> of my total volume anyway. Suggestions?
> 
> Well, I seem to often go looking for parts after hours.  When
> the website has the part, I sure like having a general idea of
> what the price is.
> 
> When I order, it's always on the 'phone though...
> 
> --   Philip
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Rusty and the web - was: Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? DieselKleenworks- maybe?

[Randy Bennell]

I like to be able to check prices too.

I guess I would suggest that you ought not to take the prices off if 
your competitors show their prices.
It may not be true, but I suggest that taking the prices off will make 
people assume you are more expensive than others who post prices.


My opinion anyway. I always think that someone who advertises a used car 
or somesuch item without listing a price, is hoping to sell it for  a 
big price.


Randy

On 30/12/2011 3:33 PM, Fmiser wrote:

Rusty Cullens wrote:
I am seriously thinking of removing prices from the web site
and just saying that I will beat anyone's advertised price.
What do ya'll think? Especially since I carry so much that
isn't even on the site. The web actually only does about 10%
of my total volume anyway. Suggestions?

Well, I seem to often go looking for parts after hours.  When
the website has the part, I sure like having a general idea of
what the price is.

When I order, it's always on the 'phone though...

--   Philip


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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Randy Bennell]

I have to say this is a sad commentary in many ways.

We have to feel sorry for the folks who were invaded by hoodlums and 
feel sorry for the poor kid who felt he had to shoot someone to protect 
himself but no one has yet commented on the kid who was killed or his 
family etc.


One has to wonder why someone ends up in a scenario like this. Most of 
us are not born to a life of crime. Some may be trained by parents who 
are as bad or worse than the kids end up but sometimes the parents are 
law abiding citizens who must be wondering how and where they went wrong.


Illegal Drugs are a likely issue in something like this. One wonders why 
some people fall victim to this sort of thing and others do not. I have 
to wonder and be thankful that my kids have not fallen into this trap. I 
have a niece (or at least my good wife has a niece, if we follow blood 
lines and the legal definition of niece ) who has fallen into the drug 
world. She periodically dusts herself off and tries to come back but it 
does not appear to be possible. She ha sno self esteem  and seems to 
lack the mental capacity of a normal adult. I have to think that she has 
fried enough brain cells to make it impossible for her to ever be 
normal. A sad thing as she is a pretty girl and could have had the world 
by the tail if she had just stayed away from the crack. We assume one 
day we will hear that she is dead. I assume it will not be because she 
was shot during a home invasion but assume it will either be an overdose 
or that she was beaten to death by some of the scumbags she hangs out 
with whenever she falls off the wagon.


I have watched her grow up since she was born and cannot fault her 
mother. Her father has not been in the picture since she was an toddler. 
He was a hopeless alcoholic the last time I saw him which is a long 
while back.


When she ends up dead, her mother is going to be very upset. I suggest 
it is likely that the young man shot in this incident has a mother 
somewhere who may well feel the same.


Randy



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Re: [MBZ] Rusty and the web - was: Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? DieselKleenworks- maybe?

[Fmiser]

> Rusty Cullens wrote:

> I am seriously thinking of removing prices from the web site
> and just saying that I will beat anyone's advertised price.
> What do ya'll think? Especially since I carry so much that
> isn't even on the site. The web actually only does about 10%
> of my total volume anyway. Suggestions?

Well, I seem to often go looking for parts after hours.  When
the website has the part, I sure like having a general idea of
what the price is.

When I order, it's always on the 'phone though...

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Re: [MBZ] Door locks

[Fred Moir]

Curt.
I have a single orphan 123 door handle that you can have. Handle has 
both numbers on it :- 123 760 01 59 Recht and 123 760 02 59 Links.
Dual-purpose handle, with key, gasket and fwd. holding screw. Do not 
have the two rear screws.


Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred


On 12/30/2011 3:44 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Anybody got some old 123 door locks hanging around they want to get rid of? 
Specifically the lock cylinders with the little flap that closes so water 
doesn't get in. My 240D has one where the door is stuck which seems pretty 
common on the driver's door.

Q says to get a replacement we need to replace the whole door handle which is 
apparently pretty pricey.

Also if I had a couple extra sets of wafers I could probably re-key my ignition 
lock so it matched the doors. Thats pretty easy if you have a bunch of extra 
wafers. Sadly I foolishly sold all my extra locks to Loren last fall.

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Greg Fiorentino]

<< The one that got away will probably be on the street shortly (after they
catch him.)>>

Perhaps not.  I believe that in most (if not all) US jurisdictions the cause
of death is criminally charged against the other perps in the case.  So the
other felon will likely be charged with a homicide.  Not likely to be a
revolving door case.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Penoff
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 10:09 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

Thankfully, this is now legal in Florida.

I'm not a pro-gun or no-gun advocate, but I have often had an issue with
one's ability to defend one's home and personal space.

After reading the article, it's clear the perps were career scumbags and
deserved what they got.  At least the one they targeted.  The one that got
away will probably be on the street shortly (after they catch him.)

Dan


On Dec 30, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Scott and Gwen Ritchey wrote:

> Got a haircut today and my barber seemed somewhat preoccupied.  Turns out
> that an hour earlier, his grand nephew shot and killed one of several
> intruders.  The grand nephew (age 14) and his sister (who was taking a
> shower at the time) were home alone when they were startled by several
armed
> intruders who burst into the house.  The kid shot the one but the others
> ran; the sheriff was searching for them last I heard.  I hope the kid
> doesn't have any long-term psychological damage from this but otherwise I
> consider it a very satisfactory solution to a bad situation.
> 
> 
> 
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[MBZ] removing prices from Rustys website (was: Re: Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting?...)

[ernest breakfield]

don't do it.

(granted, 2 out of 3 times i've tried to get something from you you 
haven't had what i needed, but) having *less* info available on the 
website is not going to make me more likely to try to buy.



cheers!
e

On 30/Dec/11 06:56, Rusty Cullens wrote:
I am seriously thinking of removing prices from the web site and just 
saying that I will beat anyone's advertised price. What do ya'll 
think? Especially since I carry so much that isn't even on the site. 
The web actually only does about 10% of my total volume anyway. 
Suggestions?



Rusty Cullens
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www.buyASIANparts.biz
Tel/ 1-800-741-5252
Fax/ 770-454-9745
ICQ 427542441
AIM BuyMBparts

- Original Message - From: "Larry" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? 
DieselKleenworks- maybe?



Rusty carries everything - and I didn't order anything from PP - but 
I did spend around $1800 for a AT from Rusty not long ago - and the 
only reason I went with Rusty was his record of service both on the 
phone and on the ist  -- but still, you gotta know what the 
competition is doing -


sorry - maybe I shouldn't have mentioned PP.

Larry

-Original Message- From: Curt Raymond
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:27 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? Diesel 
Kleenworks- maybe?


Besides which, who is Pelican parts? What have they ever done for 
you? How often do they post on the list with help? How often do they 
look stuff up when you post it on the list as a general query?


For $10 you'll walk away from Rusty? Remind me to price other oil 
labs...
Sorry for hitting below the belt but I can't believe Larry even went 
down this road. Especially for $10. If we were talking $100 or if it 
were something Rusty didn't carry then maybe...


-Curt

Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 16:56:09 -0600
From: Rick Knoble 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? Diesel
   Kleenworks- maybe?
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Dec 29, 2011, at 4:49 PM, "Larry"  wrote:

Close, but no cigar - Pelican Parts (www.pelicanparts.com)  has them 
for $73.75 ea plus Core.   Rusty has them for $75.97 plus $11.90 core.



He quoted me a better price on the phone. Ya gotta call for the best 
deals. Rusty was NOT BS'ing when he said he would match or beat 
anyone's price.

Rick
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[MBZ] Door locks

[Curt Raymond]

Anybody got some old 123 door locks hanging around they want to get rid of? 
Specifically the lock cylinders with the little flap that closes so water 
doesn't get in. My 240D has one where the door is stuck which seems pretty 
common on the driver's door.

Q says to get a replacement we need to replace the whole door handle which is 
apparently pretty pricey.

Also if I had a couple extra sets of wafers I could probably re-key my ignition 
lock so it matched the doors. Thats pretty easy if you have a bunch of extra 
wafers. Sadly I foolishly sold all my extra locks to Loren last fall.

-Curt

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[MBZ] Seeking 126 HVAC Info

[Scott Ritchey]

The floor heat in my 1982 300SD doesn't work right.  The floor heat outlet
"doors" independently swing free (as if totally unconnected from any sort of
linkage) and blow shut whenever the blower is on.  The vacuum motor and bell
crank (visible behind the radio) work correctly but somehow the linkage that
operates the doors is broken.  I can't really get a good look inside the
ductwork and I don't want to do an exploratory because everything else works
down there.  Finally, the 126 HVAC service manual is no help in explaining
or illustrating the linkages inside the ductwork.

 

So my question is: can anyone describe or provide photos of the linkages for
the 126 floor heat ducts?  I suspect I might be able to fix this if I had a
clue what was supposed to be there.  

 

Thanks for any clues you folks might provide.

 

Scott

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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Mitch Haley]

G Mann wrote:


 Survival of the attack will out weigh what ever psychological effect comes
from defending yourself and the lives of others.


I'm sure whatever trauma he might suffer from exercising good target selection 
and shot placement will be less than the trauma of being tied up and watching 
two creeps haul his 17 year old sister out of the shower and rape her.


Mitch.

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[MBZ] Secret Message for Alex

[Dan Penoff]

Your reflow is on the way.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Allan Streib]

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011, at 01:08 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

> After reading the article, it's clear the perps were career scumbags
> and deserved what they got.  At least the one they targeted.  The one
> that got away will probably be on the street shortly (after they
> catch him.)

Though maybe he'll think twice about breaking into someone's house again...  

Allan
--
1983 300D
1979 300SD


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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? DieselKleenworks- maybe?

[Curt Raymond]

Especially useful when pondering a "new" car that has known issues.

I like the ability to buy standard commodity stuff, like filters, when I think 
of it, at night or on the weekends. I regularly say "Oh I ought to ask Rusty 
about (which reminds me)" and then forget to call for weeks at a time.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 11:03:30 -0600
From: OK Don 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting?
DieselKleenworks- maybe?
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

I find the prices useful for getting an idea of what I'm getting into,
epecially as you aren't usually open for business when I'm looking - late
evenings and weekends.

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Rusty Cullens  wrote:

> I am seriously thinking of removing prices from the web site and just
> saying that I will beat anyone's advertised price. What do ya'll think?
> Especially since I carry so much that isn't even on the site. The web
> actually only does about 10% of my total volume anyway. Suggestions?
>
>
> Rusty Cullens
> BuyMBparts, Inc.
> www.buyMBparts.biz
> www.buyEUROparts.biz
> www.buyASIANparts.biz
> Tel/ 1-800-741-5252
> Fax/ 770-454-9745
> ICQ 427542441
> AIM BuyMBparts

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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Curt Raymond]

One more serial loser off the streets.

Nobody will mess with that kid, thats for sure. Hope he gets some time with a 
counselor.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 11:54:04 -0500
From: "Scott and Gwen Ritchey" 
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Subject: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender
Message-ID: <18F8883F01D24A48940863BF6931FA2F@ScottPC>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii"

Got a haircut today and my barber seemed somewhat preoccupied.  Turns out
that an hour earlier, his grand nephew shot and killed one of several
intruders.  The grand nephew (age 14) and his sister (who was taking a
shower at the time) were home alone when they were startled by several armed
intruders who burst into the house.  The kid shot the one but the others
ran; the sheriff was searching for them last I heard.  I hope the kid
doesn't have any long-term psychological damage from this but otherwise I
consider it a very satisfactory solution to a bad situation.



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Re: [MBZ] Glowing 91 350SDL

[WILTON]

Yes, maybe so, but I can't imagine what.
Removed and reinstalled #1 plug; 'had already looked closely to make sure 
wires to it and others were not shorted.  'Hope whatever I "fixed" stays 
fixed.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Craig" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glowing 91 350SDL



On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:14:43 -0500 "WILTON"  wrote:


37F yesterday morning, 34F this morning; quick, easy, smooth starts
with 7 and 8 second glows.  'Don't know what I did, if anything, but I
like it and I'll take it.  (BTW, no fiddling with accelerator during
all of this - everything at idle settings.)


Maybe you bumped something during your troubleshooting.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Scott Ritchey]

>> The article implies there were only two, but why did they post a picture
>> of the house and give the address and names of the owners?

The article named two.  About the rest, I guess the paper (this is a
struggling small-town paper) prints what they get from the Sheriff.  As we
all know, the cops don't tell everything they know and the papers don't
always get it right. So this is more like an "initial contact" report than a
"final after action" report in my view.

>> I wonder where the shotgun was positioned so the lad could get access to
>> it without getting shot by the intruders. 

My barber suspected the boy was upstairs in a media room with the front door
facing the foot of the stairs.  So he probably had time and space to react.

>> From the comments to the article, it seems that Vance County has had a
>> problem with this type of thing for quite a while.

Vance County has high unemployment (like 14% last I recall) and high crime.
But I suspect it's more a matter of a few repeat offenders vs many
criminals.  I recall one arrest that closed 17 cases.  The Sheriff, who
often addresses our community watch group, says his main limiting factor is
lack of jail space; he has a list of people he'll arrest as soon as he gets
an open cell.  One ADA (who also addressed our group) said her main problem
is lack of court time; specifically, she pleads out many lesser cases
because she knows she'll never get them scheduled into a courtroom.  So
community watch groups have really gained traction here, primarily to
provide eyes and ears for the police.  Although last week, when my neighbors
alarm system went off at midnight (turns out they were out of town) three
other neighbors arrived (all armed) in minutes.

Scott



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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? DieselKleenworks- maybe?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

When I order parts from jabba he comes out the next day and installs them

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On Dec 30, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Peter Hertzing  wrote:

> Yea - I think most people are looking for pricing - An idea may be - ad a
> coupon that says call with xyz coupon code and recieve a discount for phone
> orders.  The for people who dont' care and jsut want to deal with the
> internet.
> 
> On this subject - I will always use Rusty althogh I may check to see what I
> should be paying for a part from time to time, because he understand
> customer service.  You call Rusty - he has your CC on file, he doesn't need
> your address everytime, it is no bother to get a part and on top of that it
> is normally the best price.
> 
> Calling rusty makes me feel like the man.  He knows who you are, treats you
> like a king, and then gets you the parts.
> 
> What else could you ask for except a little elf who comes in the box and
> puts the parts on the car for you.
> 
> Peter
> 
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Dimitri Seretakis 
> wrote:
> 
>> I think you should keep the prices. You might discourage non list members
>> if they can't find a price.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 30, 2011, at 10:52 AM, Craig  wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:56:04 -0500 "Rusty Cullens" 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am seriously thinking of removing prices from the web site and just
>> saying that I will beat anyone's advertised price. What do ya'll think?
>> Especially since I carry so much that isn't even on the site. The web
>> actually only does about 10% of my total volume anyway. Suggestions?
>> 
>> I find them somewhat helpful, as in finding an upper bound of what parts
>> will cost.
>> 
>> How about posting a conspicuous note (maybe on each page next to the
>> prices) saying, "I will be these and anyone else's advertised prices if
>> you call me at (800) 741-5252!" ?
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[G Mann]

Death by armed assailant has not been found to be permanent.

 Survival of the attack will out weigh what ever psychological effect comes
from defending yourself and the lives of others.


On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Craig  wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 11:54:04 -0500 "Scott and Gwen Ritchey"
>  wrote:
>
> > Got a haircut today and my barber seemed somewhat preoccupied.  Turns
> > out that an hour earlier, his grand nephew shot and killed one of
> > several intruders.  The grand nephew (age 14) and his sister (who was
> > taking a shower at the time) were home alone when they were startled by
> > several armed intruders who burst into the house.  The kid shot the one
> > but the others ran; the sheriff was searching for them last I heard.
>
> The article implies there were only two, but why did they post a picture
> of the house and give the address and names of the owners?
>
>
> > I hope the kid doesn't have any long-term psychological damage from this
> > but otherwise I consider it a very satisfactory solution to a bad
> > situation.
>
> I wonder where the shotgun was positioned so the lad could get access to
> it without getting shot by the intruders. Yes, it was a very satisfactory
> solution. The fellow's rap sheet shows that he was indeed a repeat
> offender. I pray the lad doesn't have any long-term psychological damage
> from this as well.
>
>
> > http://tinyurl.com/ck2rx5m
>
> From the comments to the article, it seems that Vance County has had a
> problem with this type of thing for quite a while.
>
>
> Craig
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Dan Penoff]

Thankfully, this is now legal in Florida.

I'm not a pro-gun or no-gun advocate, but I have often had an issue with one's 
ability to defend one's home and personal space.

After reading the article, it's clear the perps were career scumbags and 
deserved what they got.  At least the one they targeted.  The one that got away 
will probably be on the street shortly (after they catch him.)

Dan


On Dec 30, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Scott and Gwen Ritchey wrote:

> Got a haircut today and my barber seemed somewhat preoccupied.  Turns out
> that an hour earlier, his grand nephew shot and killed one of several
> intruders.  The grand nephew (age 14) and his sister (who was taking a
> shower at the time) were home alone when they were startled by several armed
> intruders who burst into the house.  The kid shot the one but the others
> ran; the sheriff was searching for them last I heard.  I hope the kid
> doesn't have any long-term psychological damage from this but otherwise I
> consider it a very satisfactory solution to a bad situation.
> 
> 
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/ck2rx5m
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? DieselKleenworks- maybe?

[Dan Penoff]

Is that the same little glue sniffing elf that gets your daughter pregnant?

Dan (Tommy Boy)

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 30, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Peter Hertzing  wrote:

> Yea - I think most people are looking for pricing - An idea may be - ad a
> coupon that says call with xyz coupon code and recieve a discount for phone
> orders.  The for people who dont' care and jsut want to deal with the
> internet.
> 
> On this subject - I will always use Rusty althogh I may check to see what I
> should be paying for a part from time to time, because he understand
> customer service.  You call Rusty - he has your CC on file, he doesn't need
> your address everytime, it is no bother to get a part and on top of that it
> is normally the best price.
> 
> Calling rusty makes me feel like the man.  He knows who you are, treats you
> like a king, and then gets you the parts.
> 
> What else could you ask for except a little elf who comes in the box and
> puts the parts on the car for you.
> 
> Peter
> 
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Dimitri Seretakis 
> wrote:
> 
>> I think you should keep the prices. You might discourage non list members
>> if they can't find a price.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 30, 2011, at 10:52 AM, Craig  wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:56:04 -0500 "Rusty Cullens" 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am seriously thinking of removing prices from the web site and just
>> saying that I will beat anyone's advertised price. What do ya'll think?
>> Especially since I carry so much that isn't even on the site. The web
>> actually only does about 10% of my total volume anyway. Suggestions?
>> 
>> I find them somewhat helpful, as in finding an upper bound of what parts
>> will cost.
>> 
>> How about posting a conspicuous note (maybe on each page next to the
>> prices) saying, "I will be these and anyone else's advertised prices if
>> you call me at (800) 741-5252!" ?
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

[Craig]

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 11:54:04 -0500 "Scott and Gwen Ritchey"
 wrote:

> Got a haircut today and my barber seemed somewhat preoccupied.  Turns
> out that an hour earlier, his grand nephew shot and killed one of
> several intruders.  The grand nephew (age 14) and his sister (who was
> taking a shower at the time) were home alone when they were startled by
> several armed intruders who burst into the house.  The kid shot the one
> but the others ran; the sheriff was searching for them last I heard.

The article implies there were only two, but why did they post a picture
of the house and give the address and names of the owners?


> I hope the kid doesn't have any long-term psychological damage from this
> but otherwise I consider it a very satisfactory solution to a bad
> situation.

I wonder where the shotgun was positioned so the lad could get access to
it without getting shot by the intruders. Yes, it was a very satisfactory
solution. The fellow's rap sheet shows that he was indeed a repeat
offender. I pray the lad doesn't have any long-term psychological damage
from this as well.


> http://tinyurl.com/ck2rx5m

>From the comments to the article, it seems that Vance County has had a
problem with this type of thing for quite a while.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] injector rebuilding

[OK Don]

I just found a set of five used injectors for an OM617.910 ('76 300D) that
I have no use for now. Anyone interested in them? I think I replaced them
due to un-even idle and smoking, so these do need to be rebuilt.

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Rick Hawkins Java  wrote:

>
> Here's a message i sent to the list about a year ago about injector
> rebuilding services
>
> i have a pop tester and ultrasonic cleaner
>
> i can get new german Monark nozzles for about $100/set of 5
>
> Folks
>
> someone asked what i'd charge to rebuild injectors
>
> i guess for listmembers, $20 each plus parts and return shipping
>
> i'd love to do some more
>
> new nozzles cost about $20 and shims cost about $1
>
> this would be ultrasonic cleaning, assembling and adjusting pressures
> within 50 lbs and spray testing
>
> i can also build some out of your supplied used parts if you have a couple
> of sets of old injectors
>
> 706 540-3285 if you want to discuss  i'm a 1 pm to 3 am sort of
> operation
>
> thanks,
>
> xx rick
> Rick Hawkins
>
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? DieselKleenworks- maybe?

[Peter Hertzing]

Yea - I think most people are looking for pricing - An idea may be - ad a
coupon that says call with xyz coupon code and recieve a discount for phone
orders.  The for people who dont' care and jsut want to deal with the
internet.

On this subject - I will always use Rusty althogh I may check to see what I
should be paying for a part from time to time, because he understand
customer service.  You call Rusty - he has your CC on file, he doesn't need
your address everytime, it is no bother to get a part and on top of that it
is normally the best price.

Calling rusty makes me feel like the man.  He knows who you are, treats you
like a king, and then gets you the parts.

What else could you ask for except a little elf who comes in the box and
puts the parts on the car for you.

Peter

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

> I think you should keep the prices. You might discourage non list members
> if they can't find a price.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 30, 2011, at 10:52 AM, Craig  wrote:
>
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:56:04 -0500 "Rusty Cullens" 
> wrote:
>
> I am seriously thinking of removing prices from the web site and just
> saying that I will beat anyone's advertised price. What do ya'll think?
> Especially since I carry so much that isn't even on the site. The web
> actually only does about 10% of my total volume anyway. Suggestions?
>
> I find them somewhat helpful, as in finding an upper bound of what parts
> will cost.
>
> How about posting a conspicuous note (maybe on each page next to the
> prices) saying, "I will be these and anyone else's advertised prices if
> you call me at (800) 741-5252!" ?
>
>
> Craig
>
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[MBZ] injector rebuilding

[Rick Hawkins Java]

Here's a message i sent to the list about a year ago about injector  
rebuilding services


i have a pop tester and ultrasonic cleaner

i can get new german Monark nozzles for about $100/set of 5

Folks

someone asked what i'd charge to rebuild injectors

i guess for listmembers, $20 each plus parts and return shipping

i'd love to do some more

new nozzles cost about $20 and shims cost about $1

this would be ultrasonic cleaning, assembling and adjusting pressures  
within 50 lbs and spray testing


i can also build some out of your supplied used parts if you have a  
couple of sets of old injectors


706 540-3285 if you want to discuss  i'm a 1 pm to 3 am sort of  
operation


thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

www.javaphoto.com
www.javacycles.com
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Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD starts and dies

[Mountain Man]

Mike wrote:
> Mao's tank vent is plugged, not Andrew's.

Yep - thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? DieselKleenworks- maybe?

[OK Don]

I find the prices useful for getting an idea of what I'm getting into,
epecially as you aren't usually open for business when I'm looking - late
evenings and weekends.

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Rusty Cullens  wrote:

> I am seriously thinking of removing prices from the web site and just
> saying that I will beat anyone's advertised price. What do ya'll think?
> Especially since I carry so much that isn't even on the site. The web
> actually only does about 10% of my total volume anyway. Suggestions?
>
>
> Rusty Cullens
> BuyMBparts, Inc.
> www.buyMBparts.biz
> www.buyEUROparts.biz
> www.buyASIANparts.biz
> Tel/ 1-800-741-5252
> Fax/ 770-454-9745
> ICQ 427542441
> AIM BuyMBparts
>
> - Original Message - From: "Larry" 
>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 8:21 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting?
> DieselKleenworks- maybe?
>
>
>  Rusty carries everything - and I didn't order anything from PP - but I
>> did spend around $1800 for a AT from Rusty not long ago - and the only
>> reason I went with Rusty was his record of service both on the phone and on
>> the ist  -- but still, you gotta know what the competition is doing -
>>
>> sorry - maybe I shouldn’t have mentioned PP.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond
>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:27 PM
>> To: Diesel List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? Diesel
>> Kleenworks- maybe?
>>
>> Besides which, who is Pelican parts? What have they ever done for you?
>> How often do they post on the list with help? How often do they look stuff
>> up when you post it on the list as a general query?
>>
>> For $10 you'll walk away from Rusty? Remind me to price other oil labs...
>> Sorry for hitting below the belt but I can't believe Larry even went down
>> this road. Especially for $10. If we were talking $100 or if it were
>> something Rusty didn't carry then maybe...
>>
>> -Curt
>>
>> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 16:56:09 -0600
>> From: Rick Knoble 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? Diesel
>>   Kleenworks- maybe?
>> Message-ID: 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> On Dec 29, 2011, at 4:49 PM, "Larry"  wrote:
>>
>>  Close, but no cigar - Pelican Parts (www.pelicanparts.com)  has them
>>> for $73.75 ea plus Core.   Rusty has them for $75.97 plus $11.90 core.
>>>
>>
>>
>> He quoted me a better price on the phone. Ya gotta call for the best
>> deals. Rusty was NOT BS'ing when he said he would match or beat anyone's
>> price.
>> Rick
>> Sent from my AT&T rotary phone
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Bosch W123 euro headlights for dale

[Mountain Man]

Dieselhead wrote:
> Um, Yeah!   They would be nice, but probably more $ than I want to spend
> right now.

Prolly shoulda let you drive off with them 7 months ago.
I'm setting up a meet with Rick at the moment.
mao

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[MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

[Jerry Herrman]

Thanks, Dan for the reference to Autolite. I'll check that.

Jerry
82 240D


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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? Diesel Kleen works- maybe?

[Curt Raymond]

Kaleb?

Dwight and I? or do those count as "For us, by us"?

-Curt

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:10:45 -0600
From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? Diesel
Kleen works- maybe?
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

>After some recent positive experiences with Rusty on front suspension
>parts I came to the realization that's it's probably not worth dealing
>with anyone else. The service he provides cannot be equaled anywhere
>else.
we've been telling y'all that for years, ever since the vets list.
Rusty was the sponsor for the Dickarde lists.  Besides, who else
throws a BBQ for us?

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? Diesel Kleenworks- maybe?

[Curt Raymond]

Ach, no... I have a cold and was just a bit snippy last night. I'm sorry, I 
debated sending that message for a minute and should have waited another minute 
for as soon as I sent it I realized I shouldn't have.

I admitted a couple months ago when I fell down and ordered from another 
source. I got burned and Rusty did a good turn to me. The radiator he sent has 
fixed 90% of the problems with my '84 190D. I suspect a new expansion tank will 
fix the rest...

-Curt

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:21:52 -0500
From: "Larry" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? Diesel
Kleenworks- maybe?
Message-ID: <577894CB97444A57B1446F9CBE495A33@Acer>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
reply-type=original

Rusty carries everything - and I didn't order anything from PP - but I did
spend around $1800 for a AT from Rusty not long ago - and the only reason I
went with Rusty was his record of service both on the phone and on the
ist  -- but still, you gotta know what the competition is doing -

sorry - maybe I shouldn?t have mentioned PP.

Larry


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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? Diesel Kleen works- maybe?

[Dieselhead]

After some recent positive experiences with Rusty on front suspension 
parts I came to the realization that's it's probably not worth dealing 
with anyone else. The service he provides cannot be equaled anywhere

else.
we've been telling y'all that for years, ever since the vets list. 
Rusty was the sponsor for the Dickarde lists.  Besides, who else 
throws a BBQ for us?


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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? DieselKleenworks- maybe?

[Craig]

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:52:04 -0700 Craig  wrote:

> How about posting a conspicuous note (maybe on each page next to the
> prices) saying, "I will be these and anyone else's advertised prices if
> you call me at (800) 741-5252!" ?

That should read, "I will beat these and anyone else's advertised prices
if you call me at (800) 741-5252!"


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? DieselKleenworks- maybe?

[Dimitri Seretakis]

I think you should keep the prices. You might discourage non list members if 
they can't find a price.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 30, 2011, at 10:52 AM, Craig  wrote:

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:56:04 -0500 "Rusty Cullens" 
wrote:

I am seriously thinking of removing prices from the web site and just
saying that I will beat anyone's advertised price. What do ya'll think?
Especially since I carry so much that isn't even on the site. The web
actually only does about 10% of my total volume anyway. Suggestions?

I find them somewhat helpful, as in finding an upper bound of what parts
will cost.

How about posting a conspicuous note (maybe on each page next to the
prices) saying, "I will be these and anyone else's advertised prices if
you call me at (800) 741-5252!" ?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Glowing 91 350SDL

[Craig]

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:14:43 -0500 "WILTON"  wrote:

> 37F yesterday morning, 34F this morning; quick, easy, smooth starts
> with 7 and 8 second glows.  'Don't know what I did, if anything, but I
> like it and I'll take it.  (BTW, no fiddling with accelerator during
> all of this - everything at idle settings.)

Maybe you bumped something during your troubleshooting.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? DieselKleenworks- maybe?

[Craig]

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:56:04 -0500 "Rusty Cullens" 
wrote:

> I am seriously thinking of removing prices from the web site and just
> saying that I will beat anyone's advertised price. What do ya'll think?
> Especially since I carry so much that isn't even on the site. The web
> actually only does about 10% of my total volume anyway. Suggestions?

I find them somewhat helpful, as in finding an upper bound of what parts
will cost.

How about posting a conspicuous note (maybe on each page next to the
prices) saying, "I will be these and anyone else's advertised prices if
you call me at (800) 741-5252!" ?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

[Craig]

On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:53:03 -0500 Dan Penoff  wrote:

> What you describe (stepping on the accelerator at idle and the engine
> dying or stumbling) suggests that the choke is not opening fully or the
> volume of fuel from the accelerator pump is excessive.

It could also be that when he steps on the accelerator the mixture gets
too lean because not enough gasoline is injected into the carburetor. I'm
having that problem with my snow blower and have to run it with the choke
partially on.


> Again, the Internet is your friend. Do some searches and you will find
> a huge amount of information on this carb.

Yup.


Craig

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[MBZ] Glowing 91 350SDL

[WILTON]

37F yesterday morning, 34F this morning; quick, easy, smooth starts with 7 and 
8 second glows.  'Don't know what I did, if anything, but I like it and I'll 
take it.  (BTW, no fiddling with accelerator during all of this - everything at 
idle settings.)

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting?DieselKleenworks- maybe?

[WILTON]

'Don't think I've ever used the site; well, 'never bought anything via the 
site, anyway.  Much rather speak to a knowledgeable person, i. e., Rusty. 
Now, I just need to find those other really low "advertised" prices.   ;<)))


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rusty Cullens" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting?DieselKleenworks- 
maybe?



I am seriously thinking of removing prices from the web site and just 
saying that I will beat anyone's advertised price. What do ya'll think? 
Especially since I carry so much that isn't even on the site. The web 
actually only does about 10% of my total volume anyway. Suggestions?



Rusty Cullens
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www.buyASIANparts.biz
Tel/ 1-800-741-5252
Fax/ 770-454-9745
ICQ 427542441
AIM BuyMBparts

- Original Message - 
From: "Larry" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? 
DieselKleenworks- maybe?



Rusty carries everything - and I didn't order anything from PP - but I 
did spend around $1800 for a AT from Rusty not long ago - and the only 
reason I went with Rusty was his record of service both on the phone and 
on the ist  -- but still, you gotta know what the competition is doing -


sorry - maybe I shouldn’t have mentioned PP.

Larry

-Original Message- 
From: Curt Raymond

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:27 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? Diesel 
Kleenworks- maybe?


Besides which, who is Pelican parts? What have they ever done for you? 
How often do they post on the list with help? How often do they look 
stuff up when you post it on the list as a general query?


For $10 you'll walk away from Rusty? Remind me to price other oil labs...
Sorry for hitting below the belt but I can't believe Larry even went down 
this road. Especially for $10. If we were talking $100 or if it were 
something Rusty didn't carry then maybe...


-Curt

Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 16:56:09 -0600
From: Rick Knoble 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? Diesel
   Kleenworks- maybe?
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Dec 29, 2011, at 4:49 PM, "Larry"  wrote:

Close, but no cigar - Pelican Parts (www.pelicanparts.com)  has them for 
$73.75 ea plus Core.   Rusty has them for $75.97 plus $11.90 core.



He quoted me a better price on the phone. Ya gotta call for the best 
deals. Rusty was NOT BS'ing when he said he would match or beat anyone's 
price.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? DieselKleenworks- maybe?

[Rusty Cullens]

I am seriously thinking of removing prices from the web site and just saying 
that I will beat anyone's advertised price. What do ya'll think? Especially 
since I carry so much that isn't even on the site. The web actually only 
does about 10% of my total volume anyway. Suggestions?



Rusty Cullens
BuyMBparts, Inc.
www.buyMBparts.biz
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www.buyASIANparts.biz
Tel/ 1-800-741-5252
Fax/ 770-454-9745
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AIM BuyMBparts

- Original Message - 
From: "Larry" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? 
DieselKleenworks- maybe?



Rusty carries everything - and I didn't order anything from PP - but I did 
spend around $1800 for a AT from Rusty not long ago - and the only reason 
I went with Rusty was his record of service both on the phone and on the 
ist  -- but still, you gotta know what the competition is doing -


sorry - maybe I shouldn’t have mentioned PP.

Larry

-Original Message- 
From: Curt Raymond

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:27 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? Diesel 
Kleenworks- maybe?


Besides which, who is Pelican parts? What have they ever done for you? How 
often do they post on the list with help? How often do they look stuff up 
when you post it on the list as a general query?


For $10 you'll walk away from Rusty? Remind me to price other oil labs...
Sorry for hitting below the belt but I can't believe Larry even went down 
this road. Especially for $10. If we were talking $100 or if it were 
something Rusty didn't carry then maybe...


-Curt

Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 16:56:09 -0600
From: Rick Knoble 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? Diesel
   Kleenworks- maybe?
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Dec 29, 2011, at 4:49 PM, "Larry"  wrote:

Close, but no cigar - Pelican Parts (www.pelicanparts.com)  has them for 
$73.75 ea plus Core.   Rusty has them for $75.97 plus $11.90 core.



He quoted me a better price on the phone. Ya gotta call for the best 
deals. Rusty was NOT BS'ing when he said he would match or beat anyone's 
price.

Rick
Sent from my AT&T rotary phone


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Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

[Dan Penoff]

Jerry,

If you do a search on Autolite 2100 carb you will find loads of information on 
this carb.

>From what you describe, the choke system is not working properly, as when the 
>engine warms up, the choke should pull off on its own.

The issue of transition from idle to load suggests that the accelerator pump 
and/or the throttle linkage need to be adjusted. What you describe (stepping on 
the accelerator at idle and the engine dying or stumbling) suggests that the 
choke is not opening fully or the volume of fuel from the accelerator pump is 
excessive.

Again, the Internet is your friend. Do some searches and you will find a huge 
amount of information on this carb.

Dan

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 30, 2011, at 2:18 AM, "Jerry Herrman"  wrote:

> Hi Guys,
> 
> Thanks for the feedback. I'll address the issues raised by the three who 
> responded.
> 
> Rick Knoble - Not sure if you were directing me to a specific video. The You 
> Tube reference you gave did not bring me to one about a carburetor. Could you 
> give me that link again, or perhaps the title of a specific one you think 
> might address my issues?
> 
> Dan Penoff  - There is a part of this carb that looks like it might be 
> another pump. Tomorrow, I will take a digital picture of it and submit it for 
> identification. (As I typed that, I wondered if I know the proper way to 
> attach a reference to a photo, something the reader can just "click" on to 
> see it.) Perhaps you might recognize that part and identify it for me,
> As for the choke, it may not be properly adjusted. I do know that the choke 
> closes at least most of the way when cold. I have been in the habit the last 
> couple of years of opening the hood and closing the choke all the way by hand 
> before attempting to start. As soon as I crank the engine, the choke opens 
> just a little, so I guess the choke pull-off is operating "good enough". I do 
> know that the choke assembly has a problem as there are parts not connected 
> to other parts on the passenger side of the carb. (That is one reason I was 
> hoping to see some pictures of this carb with arrows identifying parts and 
> what those parts are called.) Opening the throttle completely does not set 
> the stepped cam. Right now I  put the linkage on a stepped cam by hand.  This 
> requires that I release it by hand later if I do not want it at a fast idle.. 
> However, back to the original issue, now that I have replaced the accelerator 
> pump diaphragm, the engine starts readily. Getting it started is no longer a 
> problem. The problem I am experiencing now is that when I "step on the gas" 
> when partially warmed up, the engine stalls. It does not stall when I drive 
> off just after starting when it is still cold. I need to find out how it 
> performs when fully warmed up. I suspect there is more to this than just an 
> improperly adjusted choke, however I need to get more information about that. 
> Once again, starting the engine is no longer the issue.
> 
> Peter Frederick  - The reason I am fiddling with this carb is that a certain 
> family member wants me to get rid of the truck, and I would like it to run 
> reasonably well before attempting to sell it. I am reluctant to put money 
> into it, as I likely will get little for it.
> 
> You write: 
> "You will always have trouble starting a carbureted engine if it's  
> been sitting any length of time, since the fuel will evaporate out of  
> the carburetor"
> Curiously, despite having it parked for long periods of time over the years 
> without being run (months on end), it has only been in the last couple of 
> years that I have had trouble starting it. I was convinced that the problem 
> was a bad fuel pump, until I disconnected the fuel line and saw gas squirting 
> out freely. Just to repeat, the starting problem was resolved by replacing 
> the accelerator pump diaphragm. 
> As for setting the pump linkage, I just hooked it up the same way I found it.
> What and where is the power valve?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jerry
> 82 240D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? Diesel Kleen works- maybe?

[Dimitri Seretakis]

After some recent positive experiences with Rusty on front suspension  
parts I came to the realization that's it's probably not worth dealing  
with anyone else. The service he provides cannot be equaled anywhere  
else.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 30, 2011, at 7:53 AM, "Larry"  wrote:

> all the  `prices I quoted were website prices - yes I am sure Rusty   
> would beat any valid price we brought to him.  That's why I keep  
> going to him - along with his great help on the list and otherwise
>
> Larry
>
> -Original Message- From: Dieselhead
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:20 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? Diesel  
> Kleen works- maybe?
>
> Is that the website price? or from Q over the phone?  I am sure Q  
> will beat PP.
>
>> Hey Rick -
>   ;-) Close, but no cigar - Pelican Parts (www.pelicanparts.com)
> has them for $73.75 ea plus Core.   Rusty has them for $75.97 plus
> $11.90 core.  Not much difference but Pelican is ~$10 for a set of 5
> for my '91 300D.  Perhaps the ones you priced were for a different
> engine?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? Diesel Kleenworks- maybe?

[Larry]

Rusty carries everything - and I didn't order anything from PP - but I did 
spend around $1800 for a AT from Rusty not long ago - and the only reason I 
went with Rusty was his record of service both on the phone and on the 
ist  -- but still, you gotta know what the competition is doing -


sorry - maybe I shouldn’t have mentioned PP.

Larry

-Original Message- 
From: Curt Raymond

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:27 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? Diesel 
Kleenworks- maybe?


Besides which, who is Pelican parts? What have they ever done for you? How 
often do they post on the list with help? How often do they look stuff up 
when you post it on the list as a general query?


For $10 you'll walk away from Rusty? Remind me to price other oil labs...
Sorry for hitting below the belt but I can't believe Larry even went down 
this road. Especially for $10. If we were talking $100 or if it were 
something Rusty didn't carry then maybe...


-Curt

Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 16:56:09 -0600
From: Rick Knoble 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? Diesel
   Kleenworks- maybe?
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On Dec 29, 2011, at 4:49 PM, "Larry"  wrote:

Close, but no cigar - Pelican Parts (www.pelicanparts.com)  has them for 
$73.75 ea plus Core.   Rusty has them for $75.97 plus $11.90 core.



He quoted me a better price on the phone. Ya gotta call for the best deals. 
Rusty was NOT BS'ing when he said he would match or beat anyone's price.

Rick
Sent from my AT&T rotary phone


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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? Diesel Kleen works- maybe?

[Larry]

all the  `prices I quoted were website prices - yes I am sure Rusty  would 
beat any valid price we brought to him.  That's why I keep going to him - 
along with his great help on the list and otherwise


Larry

-Original Message- 
From: Dieselhead

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:20 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Injectors and Possible adjusting? Diesel Kleen 
works- maybe?


Is that the website price? or from Q over the phone?  I am sure Q will beat 
PP.



Hey Rick -

   ;-) Close, but no cigar - Pelican Parts (www.pelicanparts.com)
has them for $73.75 ea plus Core.   Rusty has them for $75.97 plus
$11.90 core.  Not much difference but Pelican is ~$10 for a set of 5
for my '91 300D.  Perhaps the ones you priced were for a different
engine?

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Bosch W123 euro headlights for dale

[Dieselhead]

Um, Yeah!   They would be nice, but probably more $ than I want to 
spend right now.




Anyone want these?
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mao


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