date:20120409


Michael Canfield wrote:

MA will not recognize out of state temp tags and have been known to impound
cars over it.


Full faith and credit clause, haul them into federal court and see how they like 
paying a million or so in attorney fees after their final loss at the Supreme 
Court level.


Oh, I forget, government employed criminals never pay anything for violating the 
Constitution, their taxpayers foot the bill. But, just like in Chicago, they 
deserve it for electing the jackasses in the first place.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating BS


Allan Streib wrote:


So if I am a MA resident the state will not recognize another state's
temporary plate on a car I bought.  However if I as an Indiana resident
I buy a car here and have a proper temporary registration then I can
drive it in/through MA legally.


OK, that's not a full faith and credit problem, it's more like an abusive spouse 
not wanting the victim to seek help elsewhere.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Source for electronic rectifier control

50 A 1000 Volt rated should work then.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/110735275271?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_1380wt_702

ebay Item number: 110735275271

I can mount an old computer heat sink to the top of the case.

Now if I can find a couple of panel voltmeters and a DC ammeter, I
should have a linear rectifier as good as the one in the $8000 kit.

On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 22:36:10 -0500 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

What would the specs of the diodes need to be to pass up to 25 amps@
up to 120 V? Each rated for 25 Amp or more?

It just seemed easier to buy a rectifier than to build one. But to
get 25 amp, I may need to build.

Get a pre-packaged bridge rectifier. They usually are square, have four
terminals, and have a metal pad with a hole through it for bolting to a
heat sink.

You should get a bridge with at least a 400 V rating (the capacitor will
store 120*sqrt(2) DC and the reversed diode will see the line go opposite
polarity, for a total of 2*120*sqrt(2) ).

Buy, don't build. If you'd like I can search for a source of the right
kind of thing tomorrow.

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Source for electronic rectifier control

2012-04-09 Thread Craig

On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 08:15:24 -0500 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 50 A 1000 Volt rated should work then.
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/110735275271?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_1380wt_702
> 
> ebay Item number: 110735275271

Yes, that is what I was describing.


> I can mount an old computer heat sink to the top of the case.

It will have to be a fairly big heatsink (or else have a fan for forced
air cooling). You want something that has a thermal resistance of
1 deg.C./Watt or less.


> Now if I can find a couple of panel voltmeters and a DC ammeter, I 
> should have a linear rectifier as good as the one in the $8000 kit.

Only yours won't be regulated. If your line voltage changes, your DC out
will change, too.


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[MBZ] ISO W123 300CD coupe RF fender moulding

Our 1985 300CD coupe is missing its RF moulding, the short piece just
to the rear of the RF wheel well.  Does anyone have a parts car that
might still have this item?  I'd even pay for it!

Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] Rear sub frame mount in 107 SL

2012-04-09 Thread OK Don

The on-line EPC is your friend ---

All the suspension parts I dealt with on the SLC had 115 part numbers, but
I didn't replace the subframe mounts.

On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Q can tell you in the mornin'
>
>
>  Would these be the same thing as those used in the w116?  Sure look the
>> same.  I know the 107 is a blend of 114 and 116 parts, but are the rubber
>> bits completely different?  Bound to be the same thing, just more special
>> part number for when you do show car instead of road car.  This matters
>> not, as I just want it on the road, not looking for ribbons or medals.
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-**to-1981-Rear-Subframe-Mount-**
>> Bushing-Kit-Mercedes-220-230-**240-250-280-450-/370592510563?**
>> hash=item564908f263&item=**370592510563&pt=Motors_Car_**
>> Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=**mtr#ht_668wt_1165
>>
>>
>>
>> clay
>>
>>
>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Source for electronic rectifier control

It just occurred to me that the everything I needed should have been
in the APC 650 UPSs I recently pitched. Including the heat sink.
too bad I can't modify one of them to work.

The hoarders lament: As soon as I DO pitch something, I soon will
need it. Some corollary to Murphy in there... If you keep it you
won't need it, if you pitch it, you will soon have a need for it.

On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 08:15:24 -0500 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

50 A 1000 Volt rated should work then.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/110735275271?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_1380wt_702

ebay Item number: 110735275271

Yes, that is what I was describing.

I can mount an old computer heat sink to the top of the case.

It will have to be a fairly big heatsink (or else have a fan for forced
air cooling). You want something that has a thermal resistance of
1 deg.C./Watt or less.

Now if I can find a couple of panel voltmeters and a DC ammeter, I
should have a linear rectifier as good as the one in the $8000 kit.

Only yours won't be regulated. If your line voltage changes, your DC out
will change, too.

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating BS

2012-04-09 Thread Brian Toscano

In Louisiana you pay the sales tax whenever you bring a vehicle into the
state.  The check is made to the name of the current county sheriff :-)

Brian


On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:08 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Probably trying to avoid missing out on tax revenue. This sounds much like
> the WI and FL laws that require you to pay sales tax on cars purchased out
> of state if you establish residency within six months of the purchase.
>
> Dan
>
> On Apr 9, 2012, at 12:23 AM, Brian Toscano 
> wrote:
>
> > So what are they trying to do here?  "Encourage" MA residents to buy
> > vehicles within MA?
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Allan Streib 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Michael Canfield  writes:
> >>
> >>> MA will not recognize out of state temp tags and have been known to
> >>> impound cars over it.
> >>
> >> OK this seems like too much to believe so I did 2 minutes of research
> >> (so I may be wrong, but what I found at least sounds believable):
> >>
> >>   "Massachusetts does not recognize out of state temporary plates
> >>issued to a Massachusetts resident as legal.
> >>
> >>   "Massachusetts does not issue temporary plates for its own residents
> >>but it does recognize legally issued temporary plates on out of
> >>state vehicles.
> >>
> >> So if I am a MA resident the state will not recognize another state's
> >> temporary plate on a car I bought.  However if I as an Indiana resident
> >> I buy a car here and have a proper temporary registration then I can
> >> drive it in/through MA legally.
> >>
> >> Allan
> >> --
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> >> 1979 300SD
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Who wanted a TD?


On 06/04/2012 8:37 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Randy - How many miles can you document on your 76 300D?




Unfortunately not all that many.

I have the original manual etc and it indicates the car was sold here 
new by the local dealer.
There are some entries to indicate that it was serviced at the dealer 
when it was new.
If my memory serves to be correct it looks like it was driven year round 
when it was new.


Then the history becomes somewhat anecdotal.

The fellow that I bought it from told me that he got if from a fellow 
who was a barber.

The barber had it quite a long while.
He apparently got it from the origiinal owner who was a local Doctor.
The Doctor apparently kept it a long while but stopped driving it in winter.
The barbar lived in a highrise apartment building and had access to 
underground parking that he was not using.

He began to store the car there in the winters for the Doctor.
He ultimately go tthe car from the Doctor and later sold it to the 
fellow that I got it from.
I got it in July 2005. The fellow I got it from had not had it too many 
years. He had it painted but did not do much else to it.

When I got it, it showed 990 miles.
Your guess is as good as mine as to whether that is the 2nd time around 
or 3rd or ???
I don't think the car looks like it has huge miles on it so maybe it is 
only 100,990.0 but who really knows?


I have managed to put about 12,000 miles on it in the past few summers. 
I did about 3,000 miles per summer for the first 2 or 3 years that I had it.
I hardly drove it last summer as it has a few issues that need to be 
sorted out and I did not get to them.

I hope to do better this year.
It needs, at the least to solve the vacuum issue as It will not shut off 
unless I open the hood and push the stop lever. That gets old in a hurry.
The driver's seat back is falling apart. I fixed the base with the 
online suggestions but the back is more of an issue. The horse hair pad 
is worn out and expensive. I intend to talk to some local upholstery 
shops to see if they think they can duplicate it with some stiff foam. I 
know I can get the horsehair and maybe I should but I understand the 
horsehair is not available for the rear seat and it will need it too 
sooner or later so I wonder if I should try to move to foam.


Apart from that, there are some things I should do like adjust the 
valves and change the coolant and the trans fluid but those would be 
easy compared to the silly seat issue.


Then, there is the AC. The compressor appears to have a valve issue as 
there is refrigerant but it will not compress it. The pressures are 
equal if I recall what happened the last time we worked on it.


Of course, there are always other issues lurking. Like the battery which 
I suspect needs to be replaced and the tires being of unknown age.


I hope to drive it to the cottage on the May long weekend here - May 
19-21 here in Canada. That is a 325 mile round trip so I need to get 
busy and do some of the list before then.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Rear sub frame mount in 107 SL

Speaking of SLCs, will they ever be valuable?  Certainly the supply is
shrinking radically due to rust and the indifference of the buying
public.  Still, the time will come when a good example of this model
will fetch a pretty penny (although perhaps not in our lifetime).

Anyone been checking prices lately for these cars?

Andrew
Former owner, 1978 450 SL C, over-restored and eventually totaled.


On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 12:21 PM, OK Don  wrote:
> The on-line EPC is your friend ---
>
> All the suspension parts I dealt with on the SLC had 115 part numbers, but
> I didn't replace the subframe mounts.
>
> On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Q can tell you in the mornin'
>>
>>
>>  Would these be the same thing as those used in the w116?  Sure look the
>>> same.  I know the 107 is a blend of 114 and 116 parts, but are the rubber
>>> bits completely different?  Bound to be the same thing, just more special
>>> part number for when you do show car instead of road car.  This matters
>>> not, as I just want it on the road, not looking for ribbons or medals.
>>>
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-**to-1981-Rear-Subframe-Mount-**
>>> Bushing-Kit-Mercedes-220-230-**240-250-280-450-/370592510563?**
>>> hash=item564908f263&item=**370592510563&pt=Motors_Car_**
>>> Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=**mtr#ht_668wt_1165
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> clay
>>>
>>>
>>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>>> 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran
>>> 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
>>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] ISO W123 300CD coupe RF fender moulding

You should have told me the other day when I went to the yard to get 
Wilton's lid.  There is/are a coupe or two there.  I presume this is a 
standard 123 part -- should not be anything special about the coupe version?


Is it the lower bit?

--R

On 4/9/12 12:00 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Our 1985 300CD coupe is missing its RF moulding, the short piece just
to the rear of the RF wheel well.  Does anyone have a parts car that
might still have this item?  I'd even pay for it!

Andrew
1983 and 1985 300TD wagons
1985 300CD (hers)

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Re: [MBZ] Who wanted a TD?

Run about 6ft of vac hose into the cabin from the shutoff and when you 
want to shut the car off just suck on it.


--R

On 4/9/12 12:33 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
It needs, at the least to solve the vacuum issue as It will not shut 
off unless I open the hood and push the stop lever. That gets old in a 
hurry. 


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Re: [MBZ] ISO W123 300CD coupe RF fender moulding

Yep.  It may be common to all 123 models, in which case will be easy
to find.  I''ll compare the CD and TD when I get home onight.

On 4/9/12, Rich Thomas  wrote:
> You should have told me the other day when I went to the yard to get
> Wilton's lid.  There is/are a coupe or two there.  I presume this is a
> standard 123 part -- should not be anything special about the coupe version?
>
> Is it the lower bit?
>
> --R
>
> On 4/9/12 12:00 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
>> Our 1985 300CD coupe is missing its RF moulding, the short piece just
>> to the rear of the RF wheel well.  Does anyone have a parts car that
>> might still have this item?  I'd even pay for it!
>>
>> Andrew
>> 1983 and 1985 300TD wagons
>> 1985 300CD (hers)
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating BS

2012-04-09 Thread Curt Raymond

I think you are under the mistaken impression that any of it is related in any 
way to sense...

-Curt

Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 22:23:52 -0600
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So what are they trying to do here?  "Encourage" MA residents to buy
vehicles within MA?


On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:

> Michael Canfield  writes:
>
> > MA will not recognize out of state temp tags and have been known to
> > impound cars over it.
>
> OK this seems like too much to believe so I did 2 minutes of research
> (so I may be wrong, but what I found at least sounds believable):
>
>"Massachusetts does not recognize out of state temporary plates
> issued to a Massachusetts resident as legal.
>
>"Massachusetts does not issue temporary plates for its own residents
> but it does recognize legally issued temporary plates on out of
> state vehicles.
>
> So if I am a MA resident the state will not recognize another state's
> temporary plate on a car I bought.  However if I as an Indiana resident
> I buy a car here and have a proper temporary registration then I can
> drive it in/through MA legally.
>
> Allan
> --
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> 1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating BS

2012-04-09 Thread Russ Williams


Not quite true.
Sales tax is paid to the State thru the Local Sheriff Dept who is the 
tax collector

for the state and Parish.
If you buy a vech. in Miss or Ark and paid taxes there you only pay the 
difference

in taxes if your local taxes is more.
If you buy a vech in Texas and tell them you are going to Reg it in 
another state

They will let you skip paying the sales tax. I've done this twice.
You can go to the DMV and get a La Temp tag if you are going to buy a 
car out of state.
Only need the VIN and Sellers Name and Proof of Ins card. But there is a 
caveat to doing that.
It's good for 30 days only. Normally Temp tags from a dealer is good for 
90 days.
When you move to La you have 30 days to Reg your vechs and obtain an La 
Drivers License.
You pay taxes according the Blue Book value. Reg fee is 75 bucks tag fee 
vary depending on

how old the vech is. The fee for my 84 300D is 20 bucks for 2 years.

Russ W.


On 4/9/2012 11:31 AM, Brian Toscano wrote:

In Louisiana you pay the sales tax whenever you bring a vehicle into the
state.  The check is made to the name of the current county sheriff :-)

Brian


On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:08 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:


Probably trying to avoid missing out on tax revenue. This sounds much like
the WI and FL laws that require you to pay sales tax on cars purchased out
of state if you establish residency within six months of the purchase.

Dan

On Apr 9, 2012, at 12:23 AM, Brian Toscano
wrote:


So what are they trying to do here?  "Encourage" MA residents to buy
vehicles within MA?


On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Allan Streib

wrote:

Michael Canfield  writes:


MA will not recognize out of state temp tags and have been known to
impound cars over it.

OK this seems like too much to believe so I did 2 minutes of research
(so I may be wrong, but what I found at least sounds believable):

   "Massachusetts does not recognize out of state temporary plates
issued to a Massachusetts resident as legal.

   "Massachusetts does not issue temporary plates for its own residents
but it does recognize legally issued temporary plates on out of
state vehicles.

So if I am a MA resident the state will not recognize another state's
temporary plate on a car I bought.  However if I as an Indiana resident
I buy a car here and have a proper temporary registration then I can
drive it in/through MA legally.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Who wanted a TD?


Or, plug the little hand operated vacuum pump doodad into it.

Randy

On 09/04/2012 11:58 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:
Run about 6ft of vac hose into the cabin from the shutoff and when you 
want to shut the car off just suck on it.


--R

On 4/9/12 12:33 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
It needs, at the least to solve the vacuum issue as It will not shut 
off unless I open the hood and push the stop lever. That gets old in 
a hurry. 


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Re: [MBZ] Who wanted a TD?

This is a good way to meet new people and educate the general public
when you're shoppng at the mall.  After parking, pop the hood and ask
an innocent passerby to shut off the engine for you!

On 4/9/12, Randy Bennell  wrote:
> Or, plug the little hand operated vacuum pump doodad into it.
>
> Randy
>
> On 09/04/2012 11:58 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:
>> Run about 6ft of vac hose into the cabin from the shutoff and when you
>> want to shut the car off just suck on it.
>>
>> --R
>>
>> On 4/9/12 12:33 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
>>> It needs, at the least to solve the vacuum issue as It will not shut
>>> off unless I open the hood and push the stop lever. That gets old in
>>> a hurry.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Who wanted a TD?


On 09/04/2012 2:44 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

This is a good way to meet new people and educate the general public
when you're shoppng at the mall.  After parking, pop the hood and ask
an innocent passerby to shut off the engine for you!




The last time I had it out at the lake, I went out to the Trading Post 
and there was a lady that I know watching me open the hood and push the 
lever down.
When the engine had stopped, she said - "boy, that thing does not sound 
good. It's got a knock."


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Who wanted a TD?

LOL!

On 4/9/12, Randy Bennell  wrote:
> On 09/04/2012 2:44 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
>> This is a good way to meet new people and educate the general public
>> when you're shoppng at the mall.  After parking, pop the hood and ask
>> an innocent passerby to shut off the engine for you!
>>
>>
>
> The last time I had it out at the lake, I went out to the Trading Post
> and there was a lady that I know watching me open the hood and push the
> lever down.
> When the engine had stopped, she said - "boy, that thing does not sound
> good. It's got a knock."
>
> Randy
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Re: [MBZ] OT: John Cleese's analysis of how different countries handle recent terror threats.

2012-04-09 Thread Don Wills

Very entertaining.

On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:58 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

> ALERTS TO THREATS IN 2012 EUROPE: BY JOHN CLEESE
>
>
> The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent events in Syria and
>
> have therefore raised their security level from "Miffed" to "Peeved." Soon,
>
> though, security levels may be raised yet again to "Irritated" or even "A
>
> Bit Cross." The English have not been "A Bit Cross" since the blitz in 1940
>
> when tea supplies nearly ran out. Terrorists have been re-categorized from
>
> "Tiresome" to "A Bloody Nuisance." The last time the British issued a
>
> "Bloody Nuisance" warning level was in 1588, when threatened by the Spanish
>
> Armada.
>
>
> The Scots have raised their threat level from "Pissed Off" to "Let's get
>
> the Bastards." They don't have any other levels. This is the reason they
>
> have been used on the front line of the British army for the last 300
> years..
>
>
> The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror
>
> alert level from "Run" to "Hide." The only two higher levels in France are
>
> "Collaborate" and "Surrender." The rise was precipitated by a recent fire
>
> that destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively paralyzing the
>
> country's military capability.
>
>
> Italy has increased the alert level from "Shout Loudly and Excitedly" to
>
> "Elaborate Military Posturing." Two more levels remain: "Ineffective Combat
>
> Operations" and "Change Sides."
>
>
> The Germans have increased their alert state from "Disdainful Arrogance" to
>
> "Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs." They also have two higher
>
> levels: "Invade a Neighbor" and "Lose."
>
>
> Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual; the only threat
>
> they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels.
>
>
> The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy.
>
> These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy
>
> can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.
>
>
> Australia, meanwhile, has raised its security level from "No worries" to
>
> "She'll be alright, Mate." Two more escalation levels remain: "Crikey! I
>
> think we'll need to cancel the barbie this weekend!" and "The barbie is
>
> cancelled." So far no situation has ever warranted use of the last final
>
> escalation level.
>
>
> John Cleese - British writer, actor and tall person
>
> A final thought -" Greece is collapsing, the Iranians are getting
>
> aggressive, and Rome is in disarray. Welcome back to 430 BC."
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Re: [MBZ] OT: John Cleese's analysis of how different countries handle recent terror threats.


WOW!  He speaks!

Welcome back Lt. Don!We have been MonoDon for quite a while!

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[MBZ] Fwd: Snap on euro check multi system reset tool - $350 (Boston )

2012-04-09 Thread Fred Moir


Not mine, etc.

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred



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Re: [MBZ] Who wanted a TD?

2012-04-09 Thread Kevin Kraly


It's got a knock."
Yeah, 5 of them!  It uses Diesel!

Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
1977 240D 315Kmi, Liesel

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[MBZ] Stick 124

2012-04-09 Thread Alex Chamberlain

Mercedes 300e 5 SPEED manual
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/2939997484.html

I'm quite tempted...

Alex
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[MBZ] CL Idiot


http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/2948928981.html

And this thing is tempting, just because   
http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/2918413962.html


--R

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Re: [MBZ] CL Idiot


Rich Thomas wrote:

And this thing is tempting, just because   
http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/2918413962.html


Davide could use one of those, but it would cost a fortune to get it home.

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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-09 Thread j...@windwireless.net

>That's how they caught Timothy McVey - he was driving without plates 
(also
>without a license, with a loaded hand gun beside him on the seat with no
>permit). It was the next day before they linked him ti the bombing ---

State laws vary.  Once upon a time (and probably no longer), on the front
seat next to you was the _only_ way to carry a handgun in WA.  
_Concealing_
it was the crime, not the having of it...

-- Jim

 
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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

2012-04-09 Thread Peter Hertzing

I'll have to look it up but I think it was more then 1day.

Peter

Sent from my iPhone

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>> That's how they caught Timothy McVey - he was driving without plates 
> (also
>> without a license, with a loaded hand gun beside him on the seat with no
>> permit). It was the next day before they linked him ti the bombing ---
> 
> State laws vary.  Once upon a time (and probably no longer), on the front
> seat next to you was the _only_ way to carry a handgun in WA.  
> _Concealing_
> it was the crime, not the having of it...
> 
> -- Jim
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[MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-09 Thread Craig

A few years ago, we had a discussion of what it was like to live in
various parts of the United States, with listers chiming in with what they
liked about various areas.

With my application to John Brown University having fallen through and
having no response from my other college applications, I've begun to
consider what other parts of the country might be like. I have found a
job posting in Hanover, New Hampshire (not Dartmouth College). What's New
Hampshire like? I know Don Wills thinks Iowa is great, but don't recall
what others said about other areas of the country.

Can we have that conversation again, please?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-09 Thread Don Wills

Most parts of New Hampshire are stunningly beautiful. It would probably be
very nice.

On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Craig  wrote:

> A few years ago, we had a discussion of what it was like to live in
> various parts of the United States, with listers chiming in with what they
> liked about various areas.
>
> With my application to John Brown University having fallen through and
> having no response from my other college applications, I've begun to
> consider what other parts of the country might be like. I have found a
> job posting in Hanover, New Hampshire (not Dartmouth College). What's New
> Hampshire like? I know Don Wills thinks Iowa is great, but don't recall
> what others said about other areas of the country.
>
> Can we have that conversation again, please?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

My good wife has an uncle and aunt living in NH. Cannot, off the top of 
my head recall the name of the town and I have not been there.
However, during his working life they seemed to move from NH to VT and 
back a few times but now that he is retired, they are in NH. Sounds like 
they like it fine there.


Randy

On 09/04/2012 4:34 PM, Craig wrote:

A few years ago, we had a discussion of what it was like to live in
various parts of the United States, with listers chiming in with what they
liked about various areas.

With my application to John Brown University having fallen through and
having no response from my other college applications, I've begun to
consider what other parts of the country might be like. I have found a
job posting in Hanover, New Hampshire (not Dartmouth College). What's New
Hampshire like? I know Don Wills thinks Iowa is great, but don't recall
what others said about other areas of the country.

Can we have that conversation again, please?

Thanks,


Craig





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[MBZ] Stick 124


White paint clear coat is peeling off


Means the car is repainted because a 1986 with 147 arctic white has NO 
clearcoat from the factory.


Fredd



Mercedes 300e 5 SPEED manual
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/2939997484.html
I'm quite tempted...
Alex



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Re: [MBZ] Stick 124

2012-04-09 Thread WILTON


'Zackly my thought, too.

Wilton

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Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:18 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Stick 124



White paint clear coat is peeling off


Means the car is repainted because a 1986 with 147 arctic white has NO 
clearcoat from the factory.


Fredd



Mercedes 300e 5 SPEED manual
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/2939997484.html
I'm quite tempted...
Alex



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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-09 Thread Dan Penoff

I looked at relocating to Nashua back in the early 90s for a job in Boston 
(Woburn). Went as far as shopping for houses.

More details in a bit.

Dan

On Apr 9, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Craig  wrote:

> A few years ago, we had a discussion of what it was like to live in
> various parts of the United States, with listers chiming in with what they
> liked about various areas.
> 
> With my application to John Brown University having fallen through and
> having no response from my other college applications, I've begun to
> consider what other parts of the country might be like. I have found a
> job posting in Hanover, New Hampshire (not Dartmouth College). What's New
> Hampshire like? I know Don Wills thinks Iowa is great, but don't recall
> what others said about other areas of the country.
> 
> Can we have that conversation again, please?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Craig
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Subject:Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country
Date:   Mon, 09 Apr 2012 18:37:52 -0400
From:   Rich Thomas 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 



Live Free and Die.  Within sight of the southern border the population
is mostly Massholes who moved there to get away from the Mass taxes, but
brought all their "good" ideas with them, and are in the process of
trying to impose them on the rest of the state.  That is not being
well-received from what I understand.  The rest of the state is pretty
rural, and somewhat/mostly undeveloped.  My wife did a rotation at the
Manchester VA hospital ("The Manch") some years ago, and observed then
that the tattoo/tooth ratio was pretty high -- sorta northern Appalachia
with similar social behavior.  Further north the mountains have some
decent eastern skiing and are very pretty in the summer too for hiking
and such.  There is no state sales tax (made up with property taxes I
think) and liquor is a lot cheaper at the state packies than across the
Mass border (and they are open on Sundays).  The winters can be long and
miserable.

If you have a good job I think the cost of living is relatively low (cut
your wood for the winter heating season), and rural lifestyle abounds.

--R
On 4/9/12 5:34 PM, Craig wrote:

 A few years ago, we had a discussion of what it was like to live in
 various parts of the United States, with listers chiming in with what they
 liked about various areas.

 With my application to John Brown University having fallen through and
 having no response from my other college applications, I've begun to
 consider what other parts of the country might be like. I have found a
 job posting in Hanover, New Hampshire (not Dartmouth College). What's New
 Hampshire like? I know Don Wills thinks Iowa is great, but don't recall
 what others said about other areas of the country.

 Can we have that conversation again, please?

 Thanks,


 Craig

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[MBZ] OT Joe Biden

...just left about 20min ago and buggered up the roads again.  My wife 
was coming home and got caught up in it, 12-14 motorcycles, several cop 
cars, an ambulance, several black Suburbans, and a helicopter was flying 
around.  Next time we should use a catapult or a helo with a big bungee 
to get him extracted.


He was staying at a Kiawah beach house (I think one of the small ones, 
only about 10k ft2) with the 0.1%ers.  I'm sure he put the touch on some 
of them while he was there.  Can you say, "hypocrisy?"  Go on, I know 
you can, "hypocrisy."  There you go!


Come on, stand up for Joe!

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Stick 124

2012-04-09 Thread Peter Frederick


Every other color has a clear coat, why would the white be exempted?

Peter

On Apr 9, 2012, at 5:20 PM, WILTON wrote:


'Zackly my thought, too.

Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:18 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Stick 124



White paint clear coat is peeling off
Means the car is repainted because a 1986 with 147 arctic white  
has NO clearcoat from the factory.

Fredd

Mercedes 300e 5 SPEED manual
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/2939997484.html
I'm quite tempted...
Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Sticky 124

2012-04-09 Thread Hendrik & Fay


'Zackly my thought too.
Unless this was some sort of budget model but am thinking that clear 
coat would be a standard procedure on all cars, regardless of colour. 
Perhaps it's a racist thing?
Also I would be interested in how exactly the valves in a M103 (and most 
other engines from 85 on) would be adjusted, seeing that they are 
hydraulic self adjusting. You do have to set the clearance with shims or 
some such thing, after redoing the rockers.
If that engine was rebuilt I am guessing that the clearances where not 
set properly, hence the belief that a valve adjustment is needed.
My 103 has been ticking on start up for ever but seems to have not got 
worse or better, well it's generally better with fresh oil and I reckon 
the ticking is there to remind me to service it.
Anyway back to the manny 300E, pretty sure that the reason the engine 
was overhauled was cause of the headgasket but it would be a gamble if 
you don't know who rebuilt the engine and what parts where used but it 
is a cheapish car and if rust free should be worth a punt.


Hendrik
whose 124 has peeling clear coat, here and there but is a family truck

On 10/04/12 09:55, Peter Frederick wrote:

Every other color has a clear coat, why would the white be exempted?

Peter

On Apr 9, 2012, at 5:20 PM, WILTON wrote:


'Zackly my thought, too.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Fredd" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:18 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Stick 124



White paint clear coat is peeling off
Means the car is repainted because a 1986 with 147 arctic white has 
NO clearcoat from the factory.

Fredd

Mercedes 300e 5 SPEED manual
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/2939997484.html
I'm quite tempted...
Alex







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Re: [MBZ] Stick 124

2012-04-09 Thread WILTON

Neither my white '87 124 nor my black '91 126 has clear coat; nor did my 
cactus green '80 123 and '81 ivory 123.

None of my four MBs has had clear coat.

Wilton

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Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stick 124



Every other color has a clear coat, why would the white be exempted?

Peter

On Apr 9, 2012, at 5:20 PM, WILTON wrote:


'Zackly my thought, too.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Fredd" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:18 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Stick 124



White paint clear coat is peeling off
Means the car is repainted because a 1986 with 147 arctic white  has NO 
clearcoat from the factory.

Fredd

Mercedes 300e 5 SPEED manual
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/2939997484.html
I'm quite tempted...
Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Stick 124

2012-04-09 Thread Peter Frederick


How could you tell if it wasn't peeling off?

I believe MB started using clear coat with the W126 chassis,  
certainly by 1986.  I've seen several W123's with peeling clearcoat  
as well.  I cannot imagine they would run one color with clearcoat  
and others without.


Peter
On Apr 9, 2012, at 8:15 PM, WILTON wrote:

Neither my white '87 124 nor my black '91 126 has clear coat; nor  
did my cactus green '80 123 and '81 ivory 123.

None of my four MBs has had clear coat.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Peter Frederick"  


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stick 124



Every other color has a clear coat, why would the white be exempted?

Peter

On Apr 9, 2012, at 5:20 PM, WILTON wrote:


'Zackly my thought, too.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Fredd" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:18 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Stick 124



White paint clear coat is peeling off
Means the car is repainted because a 1986 with 147 arctic white   
has NO clearcoat from the factory.

Fredd

Mercedes 300e 5 SPEED manual
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/2939997484.html
I'm quite tempted...
Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Rear sub frame mount in 107 SL

Based on number made, there is no probable value in them.  They do not have the 
cachet of a convertible, are more GT than babe mobile, and as you state, just 
not that in demand, so are being allowed to rust away.   I would think that if 
it were a really rare model, such as the 5 liter 1979 450slc, it might fetch a 
good fee in twenty years.  Or AMG.

Even the 107 drop top is over represented with the 280/380/420/500/560 and 18 
years of production.  I would expect a gray market euro to be more valuable 
than DOT models.  For some reason there is a flood of 380sl on the local 
market.  Did they really import that many more proportionally than the 450 or 
560?  

I also am expecting that prices will be very attuned to geography.  If you are 
in Georgia, the car must be made of platinum and valued at market rate for the 
metal.  For some reason Georgia cars on fleabay are stupid prices.

clay


On Apr 9, 2012, at 9:34 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

> Speaking of SLCs, will they ever be valuable?  Certainly the supply is
> shrinking radically due to rust and the indifference of the buying
> public.  Still, the time will come when a good example of this model
> will fetch a pretty penny (although perhaps not in our lifetime).
> 
> Anyone been checking prices lately for these cars?
> 
> Andrew
> Former owner, 1978 450 SL C, over-restored and eventually totaled.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 12:21 PM, OK Don  wrote:
>> The on-line EPC is your friend ---
>> 
>> All the suspension parts I dealt with on the SLC had 115 part numbers, but
>> I didn't replace the subframe mounts.
>> 
>> On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Q can tell you in the mornin'
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Would these be the same thing as those used in the w116?  Sure look the
 same.  I know the 107 is a blend of 114 and 116 parts, but are the rubber
 bits completely different?  Bound to be the same thing, just more special
 part number for when you do show car instead of road car.  This matters
 not, as I just want it on the road, not looking for ribbons or medals.
 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-**to-1981-Rear-Subframe-Mount-**
 Bushing-Kit-Mercedes-220-230-**240-250-280-450-/370592510563?**
 hash=item564908f263&item=**370592510563&pt=Motors_Car_**
 Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=**mtr#ht_668wt_1165
 
 
 
 clay
 
 
 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran
 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
 POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Rear sub frame mount in 107 SL

2012-04-09 Thread Allan Streib

clay monroe  writes:

> For some reason Georgia cars on fleabay are stupid prices.

In general, North Carolina through Georgia is a good place to buy a used
car, they don't salt the roads and the cars are not as likely to be
totally sun-baked as in Florida.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Stick 124

If the engine is any good, I would swoop down and source that for the SL.  As 
it is, the rust removal process is almost through, and we move into upholstery 
for the week.  When all Rusty parts arrive, I will move into "that which lives 
under the air filter housing".   When I get a lid hoist, I can remove the top 
and see what sort of disaster the soft top is in and what needs attention in 
that area.

clay

On Apr 9, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

> Mercedes 300e 5 SPEED manual
> http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/2939997484.html
> 
> I'm quite tempted...
> 
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Re: [MBZ] CL Idiot

that tempting one is a Lincoln Lawyer car.  Maybe a mobile koochie car.  
Delivery service

clay

On Apr 9, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

> http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/2948928981.html
> 
> And this thing is tempting, just because   
> http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/2918413962.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

But what does your bad wife have to say about things?

clay

On Apr 9, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:

> My good wife has an uncle and aunt living in NH. Cannot, off the top of my 
> head recall the name of the town and I have not been there.
> However, during his working life they seemed to move from NH to VT and back a 
> few times but now that he is retired, they are in NH. Sounds like they like 
> it fine there.
> 
> Randy
> 
> On 09/04/2012 4:34 PM, Craig wrote:
>> A few years ago, we had a discussion of what it was like to live in
>> various parts of the United States, with listers chiming in with what they
>> liked about various areas.
>> 
>> With my application to John Brown University having fallen through and
>> having no response from my other college applications, I've begun to
>> consider what other parts of the country might be like. I have found a
>> job posting in Hanover, New Hampshire (not Dartmouth College). What's New
>> Hampshire like? I know Don Wills thinks Iowa is great, but don't recall
>> what others said about other areas of the country.
>> 
>> Can we have that conversation again, please?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Rear sub frame mount in 107 SL

Maybe.  IF it leaks, there is bound to be rust.  I am find that the bay area 
SL, even if it lived in Seattle for a number or years, has horrible rust issue. 
 Maybe having the pads glued down discouraged owners from looking under them 
and this allowed water to pool and feed tin worm.  I would expect the same lack 
of attention to affect the mid atlantic and southern cars equally.

clay

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> clay monroe  writes:
> 
>> For some reason Georgia cars on fleabay are stupid prices.
> 
> In general, North Carolina through Georgia is a good place to buy a used
> car, they don't salt the roads and the cars are not as likely to be
> totally sun-baked as in Florida.
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-09 Thread David & Kristin Gilmore


At 05:34 PM 4/9/2012, Craig wrote:

A few years ago, we had a discussion of what it was like to live in
various parts of the United States, with listers chiming in with what they
liked about various areas.

With my application to John Brown University having fallen through and
having no response from my other college applications, I've begun to
consider what other parts of the country might be like. I have found a
job posting in Hanover, New Hampshire (not Dartmouth College). What's New
Hampshire like? I know Don Wills thinks Iowa is great, but don't recall
what others said about other areas of the country.

Can we have that conversation again, please?


 I really like West Virginia, or at least the part I am familiar 
with, the northern panhandle where the SW corner of  Pennsylvania fits.


 My wife and I escaped our government jobs and the Washington DC 
area in 1981.  We found that six hours from DC the price of rural 
land dropped dramatically.  So we bought an old farm here outside 
Cameron WV. I am technically a hay farmer but mainly we have been 
just taking it easy.


 The people here are friendly.  Wheeling,WV has a high rating 
for small city quality of life according to the experts on such 
things.  No more steel plants.  An hour from me the other way is the 
WV university at Morgantown.  Pittsburgh is 2 hours.The mines are 
under ground.


 Hardwood forest except for the wider ridge tops and valleys, 
where part time farmers do beef cattle cow /calf operations. Far 
enough North that we don't get chiggers, far enough South that we 
don't get black flies.  Forty two inches average.  Mild 
winters.  Property taxes laughably low.  Hunting for deer and turkey 
unequalled.  I call on Tom Savage and Lt Don(!) to testify to all this.


 The big news locally is the Marcellus shale gas boom which is 
bringing in new money, jobs and big trucks on our narrow roads.  Were 
geophysics your specialty you would be in hot demand.   Ah well, you 
are very welcome here for a beer or such like should you be passing 
by in your travels.  You might need 4WD to visit at certain 
times.  Let me know when you are coming and I will send 
directions.   It is complicated.



 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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Re: [MBZ] Stick 124

2012-04-09 Thread WILTON

Well, if you rub on it with cleaner, wax, etc., and immediately get the 
paint color on the polishing cloth, that's not clear coat, is it?  I even 
called MB HQ when I needed to paint hood, left front fender and door after 
deer collision in '96 and asked, "Does my 126 have clear coat?"  Reply was, 
"No, black enamel (040) only, no clear coat."


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Frederick" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stick 124



How could you tell if it wasn't peeling off?

I believe MB started using clear coat with the W126 chassis,  certainly by 
1986.  I've seen several W123's with peeling clearcoat  as well.  I cannot 
imagine they would run one color with clearcoat  and others without.


Peter
On Apr 9, 2012, at 8:15 PM, WILTON wrote:

Neither my white '87 124 nor my black '91 126 has clear coat; nor  did my 
cactus green '80 123 and '81 ivory 123.

None of my four MBs has had clear coat.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Peter Frederick" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stick 124



Every other color has a clear coat, why would the white be exempted?

Peter

On Apr 9, 2012, at 5:20 PM, WILTON wrote:


'Zackly my thought, too.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Fredd" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:18 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Stick 124



White paint clear coat is peeling off
Means the car is repainted because a 1986 with 147 arctic white   has 
NO clearcoat from the factory.

Fredd

Mercedes 300e 5 SPEED manual
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/2939997484.html
I'm quite tempted...
Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Stick 124

2012-04-09 Thread Peter Frederick


Yeah, that would tell you.

Odd, as all mine of that vintage, and all the ones I have seen so  
far, have clear coat.  My volvo TD from 85 is plain black, though, no  
clear coat.


Peter
On Apr 9, 2012, at 9:00 PM, WILTON wrote:

Well, if you rub on it with cleaner, wax, etc., and immediately get  
the paint color on the polishing cloth, that's not clear coat, is  
it?  I even called MB HQ when I needed to paint hood, left front  
fender and door after deer collision in '96 and asked, "Does my 126  
have clear coat?"  Reply was, "No, black enamel (040) only, no  
clear coat."


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Peter Frederick"  


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stick 124



How could you tell if it wasn't peeling off?

I believe MB started using clear coat with the W126 chassis,   
certainly by 1986.  I've seen several W123's with peeling  
clearcoat  as well.  I cannot imagine they would run one color  
with clearcoat  and others without.


Peter
On Apr 9, 2012, at 8:15 PM, WILTON wrote:

Neither my white '87 124 nor my black '91 126 has clear coat;  
nor  did my cactus green '80 123 and '81 ivory 123.

None of my four MBs has had clear coat.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Peter Frederick"  


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stick 124


Every other color has a clear coat, why would the white be  
exempted?


Peter

On Apr 9, 2012, at 5:20 PM, WILTON wrote:


'Zackly my thought, too.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Fredd" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:18 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Stick 124



White paint clear coat is peeling off
Means the car is repainted because a 1986 with 147 arctic  
white   has NO clearcoat from the factory.

Fredd

Mercedes 300e 5 SPEED manual
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/2939997484.html
I'm quite tempted...
Alex

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[MBZ] S126

2012-04-09 Thread Hendrik & Fay



http://onlycarsandcars.blogspot.com.au/2010/05/mercedes-benz-w126-560-sel-kombi.html
wonder if it has clear coat?

Hendrik
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Re: [MBZ] OT: John Cleese's analysis of how different countries handle recent terror threats.

Where's my finder's fee?

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> WOW!  He speaks!
>
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[MBZ] Stick 124

Because arctic white 147 NEVER had clear coat from the factory until the end 
of MY in 1993.
Starting 1994 MY the color changed to polar white 149 and that color had 
clear coat.


Fredd


Every other color has a clear coat, why would the white be exempted?

Peter

On Apr 9, 2012, at 5:20 PM, WILTON wrote:


'Zackly my thought, too.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Fredd" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:18 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Stick 124



White paint clear coat is peeling off
Means the car is repainted because a 1986 with 147 arctic white  has NO 
clearcoat from the factory.

Fredd

Mercedes 300e 5 SPEED manual
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/2939997484.html
I'm quite tempted...
Alex



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Re: [MBZ] Very Aggravating

I just watched that ultra violent part of Fargo when the psycho
Quebecois killer takes out all the state trooper and the accidental
witnesses.  Brilliantly directed and acted, but totally stomach
wrenching scenes.

On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Peter Hertzing  wrote:
> I'll have to look it up but I think it was more then 1day.
>
> Peter
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 9, 2012, at 4:13 PM, "j...@windwireless.net"  
> wrote:
>
>>> That's how they caught Timothy McVey - he was driving without plates
>> (also
>>> without a license, with a loaded hand gun beside him on the seat with no
>>> permit). It was the next day before they linked him ti the bombing ---
>>
>> State laws vary.  Once upon a time (and probably no longer), on the front
>> seat next to you was the _only_ way to carry a handgun in WA.
>> _Concealing_
>> it was the crime, not the having of it...
>>
>> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT Joe Biden

I love the guy but apologize for any inconvenience.  The world of
motorcade holdups is one I live out every single day so I know how you
feel.

On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Rich Thomas
 wrote:
> ...just left about 20min ago and buggered up the roads again.  My wife was
> coming home and got caught up in it, 12-14 motorcycles, several cop cars, an
> ambulance, several black Suburbans, and a helicopter was flying around.
>  Next time we should use a catapult or a helo with a big bungee to get him
> extracted.
>
> He was staying at a Kiawah beach house (I think one of the small ones, only
> about 10k ft2) with the 0.1%ers.  I'm sure he put the touch on some of them
> while he was there.  Can you say, "hypocrisy?"  Go on, I know you can,
> "hypocrisy."  There you go!
>
> Come on, stand up for Joe!
>
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[MBZ] Stick 124


Solid non metallic colors had no clear coat until the end of MY 1993.
Metallic colors had clear coat starting 1962 or1964 MY, I have to look it up 
to be exact.


Fredd





How could you tell if it wasn't peeling off?

I believe MB started using clear coat with the W126 chassis,  certainly by 
1986.  I've seen several W123's with peeling clearcoat  as well.  I cannot 
imagine they would run one color with clearcoat  and others without.


Peter
On Apr 9, 2012, at 8:15 PM, WILTON wrote:

Neither my white '87 124 nor my black '91 126 has clear coat; nor  did my 
cactus green '80 123 and '81 ivory 123.

None of my four MBs has had clear coat.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Peter Frederick" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stick 124



Every other color has a clear coat, why would the white be exempted?

Peter

On Apr 9, 2012, at 5:20 PM, WILTON wrote:


'Zackly my thought, too.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Fredd" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:18 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Stick 124



White paint clear coat is peeling off
Means the car is repainted because a 1986 with 147 arctic white   has 
NO clearcoat from the factory.

Fredd

Mercedes 300e 5 SPEED manual
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/2939997484.html
I'm quite tempted...
Alex



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Re: [MBZ] CL Idiot

I prefer the Gran Dam myself.  That ranks way up there in CL idiocy.

On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 9:42 PM, clay monroe  wrote:
> that tempting one is a Lincoln Lawyer car.  Maybe a mobile koochie car.  
> Delivery service
>
> clay
>
> On Apr 9, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
>
>> http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/2948928981.html
>>
>> And this thing is tempting, just because   
>> http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/2918413962.html
>>
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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

No place in W VA is less than complicated to get to.

On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 9:48 PM, David & Kristin Gilmore
 wrote:
> At 05:34 PM 4/9/2012, Craig wrote:
>>
>> A few years ago, we had a discussion of what it was like to live in
>> various parts of the United States, with listers chiming in with what they
>> liked about various areas.
>>
>> With my application to John Brown University having fallen through and
>> having no response from my other college applications, I've begun to
>> consider what other parts of the country might be like. I have found a
>> job posting in Hanover, New Hampshire (not Dartmouth College). What's New
>> Hampshire like? I know Don Wills thinks Iowa is great, but don't recall
>> what others said about other areas of the country.
>>
>> Can we have that conversation again, please?
>
>
>     I really like West Virginia, or at least the part I am familiar with,
> the northern panhandle where the SW corner of  Pennsylvania fits.
>
>     My wife and I escaped our government jobs and the Washington DC area in
> 1981.  We found that six hours from DC the price of rural land dropped
> dramatically.  So we bought an old farm here outside Cameron WV. I am
> technically a hay farmer but mainly we have been just taking it easy.
>
>     The people here are friendly.  Wheeling,WV has a high rating for small
> city quality of life according to the experts on such things.  No more steel
> plants.  An hour from me the other way is the WV university at Morgantown.
>  Pittsburgh is 2 hours.    The mines are under ground.
>
>     Hardwood forest except for the wider ridge tops and valleys, where part
> time farmers do beef cattle cow /calf operations. Far enough North that we
> don't get chiggers, far enough South that we don't get black flies.  Forty
> two inches average.  Mild winters.  Property taxes laughably low.  Hunting
> for deer and turkey unequalled.  I call on Tom Savage and Lt Don(!) to
> testify to all this.
>
>     The big news locally is the Marcellus shale gas boom which is bringing
> in new money, jobs and big trucks on our narrow roads.  Were geophysics your
> specialty you would be in hot demand.   Ah well, you are very welcome here
> for a beer or such like should you be passing by in your travels.  You might
> need 4WD to visit at certain times.  Let me know when you are coming and I
> will send directions.   It is complicated.
>
>
>     Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV
>
>
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[MBZ] S126


Color is blue black metallic 199 and has clear coat.

Fredd


http://onlycarsandcars.blogspot.com.au/2010/05/mercedes-benz-w126-560-sel-kombi.html
wonder if it has clear coat?

Hendrik
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Re: [MBZ] OT Joe Biden

I don't care about the road issue so much, that was my wife who was held 
up.  It's the hypocrisy that I find so distasteful.


My friend lost his son 2 yr ago in South Africa in a freak accident 
while they were there for the World Cup.  Biden was there finding some 
facts or something, and called up my friend to see if there was 
anything, anything at all, he could do to help them.  He was genuinely a 
nice guy to them, and I think called them a second time to see how they 
were doing.  Kinda ironic in that the son who died was a rabid 
up-and-coming Republican (and had started a R club at school) -- he 
would have had quite a laugh to know that Joe Biden was offering to help 
the family.  What a world we live in.


--R

On 4/9/12 10:39 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

I love the guy but apologize for any inconvenience.  The world of
motorcade holdups is one I live out every single day so I know how you
feel.

On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Rich Thomas
  wrote:

...just left about 20min ago and buggered up the roads again.  My wife was
coming home and got caught up in it, 12-14 motorcycles, several cop cars, an
ambulance, several black Suburbans, and a helicopter was flying around.
  Next time we should use a catapult or a helo with a big bungee to get him
extracted.

He was staying at a Kiawah beach house (I think one of the small ones, only
about 10k ft2) with the 0.1%ers.  I'm sure he put the touch on some of them
while he was there.  Can you say, "hypocrisy?"  Go on, I know you can,
"hypocrisy."  There you go!

Come on, stand up for Joe!

--R

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Re: [MBZ] OT: John Cleese's analysis of how different countries handle recent terror threats.

2012-04-09 Thread Max

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Re: [MBZ] OT Joe Biden

Cut im some slack.  He is obummer JR, but has not yet learned to read 
a teleprompter.




...just left about 20min ago and buggered up the roads again.  My 
wife was coming home and got caught up in it, 12-14 motorcycles, 
several cop cars, an ambulance, several black Suburbans, and a 
helicopter was flying around.  Next time we should use a catapult or 
a helo with a big bungee to get him extracted.


He was staying at a Kiawah beach house (I think one of the small 
ones, only about 10k ft2) with the 0.1%ers.  I'm sure he put the 
touch on some of them while he was there.  Can you say, "hypocrisy?" 
Go on, I know you can, "hypocrisy."  There you go!


Come on, stand up for Joe!

--R


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Re: [MBZ] OT: John Cleese's analysis of how different countries handle recent terror threats.


Sure, send me $100 for having to put up with im again!


Where's my finder's fee?

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 WOW!  He speaks!

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Re: [MBZ] Sticky 124

2012-04-09 Thread Alex Chamberlain

On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Hendrik & Fay  wrote:
> it would be a gamble if you don't
> know who rebuilt the engine and what parts where used but it is a cheapish
> car and if rust free should be worth a punt.
>

Pretty much my thought.

Drivable automatic 300Es go for $1000-1500 all day long around here
but a manual one is a rare bird indeed.  Hendrik, you may not know
that in the USA we only got stick 124s in 1986, and then only sedans,
and only a few thousand of them.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] OT: John Cleese's analysis of how different countries handle recent terror threats.


Maybe he has been giggin' with the LT DON BAND!

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Re: [MBZ] Sticky 124


Alex Chamberlain wrote:

Drivable automatic 300Es go for $1000-1500 all day long around here
but a manual one is a rare bird indeed.  Hendrik, you may not know
that in the USA we only got stick 124s in 1986, and then only sedans,
and only a few thousand of them.


We didn't get stick 2.6s in later years?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Sticky 124