Re: [MBZ] Pron on youtube....

2012-04-27 Thread Rich Thomas
Sumpin wrong wif mah compooter -- the sound is all backards or sumpin.  
I caint unnerstan it!


Whut do ah do?

--R

On 4/27/12 11:17 PM, Rolf wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=4XMlLgl79ek 



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[MBZ] Pron on youtube....

2012-04-27 Thread Rolf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=4XMlLgl79ek 



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Re: [MBZ] CVT of yore

2012-04-27 Thread RELNGSON
> ...Both snowmobiles and bulldozers have had CVTs for years and years..
> 
Plus the 1959 DAF 600. SeveraI years ago I took a Mazda CVT (MB service 
rental) home for a few days before they were providing new C Classes for 
service customers. I did not like it.

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in Mass

2012-04-27 Thread Dan Penoff
Tablet clock hadn't synced the time yet.

Dan back to the future


Craig  wrote:

>> >On Apr 27, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
>  ^^
>
>
>On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:15:20 -0400 Dan Penoff  wrote:
>^^
>   ?
>
>> Florida is the same way. To evict a tenant, no matter what the reason,
>> is nearly impossible.
>
>Either Dan is in a serious time warp or his computer clock is a month off.
>
>
>Craig
>
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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in Mass

2012-04-27 Thread Craig
> >On Apr 27, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
  ^^


On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:15:20 -0400 Dan Penoff  wrote:
^^
   ?

> Florida is the same way. To evict a tenant, no matter what the reason,
> is nearly impossible.

Either Dan is in a serious time warp or his computer clock is a month off.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in Mass

2012-04-27 Thread Dan Penoff
Florida is the same way. To evict a tenant, no matter what the reason, is 
nearly impossible.

Dan

Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:

>The leftist sway of the state has really only impacted me (potentially) as a 
>landlord. You know that in MA landlords have no rights! 
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Apr 27, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Rich Thomas 
> wrote:
>
>Given the left->far left leanings of most of the state, an R really cannot be 
>too "R" or hardly anyone would vote for him or her.  Massachusetts has had an 
>interesting history of electing nominally R gubnas, who sorta agitate things a 
>bit (or provide a bit of fiscal discipline, which is mostly the reason they 
>get elected as far as I could tell, sort of a pendulum swing), but since 
>everything else is run by D hacks (except the ones indicted or convicted, but 
>even then the ones being investigated keep it going...), including the 
>legislature, it is hard to do much that would be classified as conservative 
>(which, for this example, I equate to an R).  Mittens was elected I would 
>guess to sorta come in and do his Bain consultant thing, get the place sorted 
>out a bit, and leave most of the shenanigans alone (not that he could have 
>done much about it anyway).  The health care thing, he did what he had to do 
>to get it to work in the context of the Ds basically
> running the legislature, so he worked with them, made the sausage and sent it 
> over to them.  My guess is, if left to them to do (which they probably would 
> not have done on their own as they would have to take full responsibility for 
> the disaster) it would have been even worse even more quickly.  Just how it 
> is.  There were quite a few R gubnas in the past, most of them were sorta 
> fiscal conservatives, as much as can be there, relatively, or 
> go-along-get-along, and did not rock the boat much.
>
>(Oh, tangentially and aside, the old-time Dixiecrats here in SC, like ol Fritz 
>and Strom et al, are probably more like most of the Rs today, and in some ways 
>more extreme, things have swung that far.  Miss Lindsey Graham was a protege 
>of Ol Fritz, who is still quite active in the local doings, so that is a 
>reference point.  Even those old guys were not a Kennedy type D, and had 
>considerable distrust of that kind of D.)
>
>The thing is, most people in Mass (or at least the Boston area) either 
>actively vote for that situation (and I had friends who did for reasons 
>completely unclear to me, just habit I guess), or at least acquiesce to it, so 
>you just need to understand that is how it is.  I found it distressing when I 
>lived there, but I lived there for 20yr and sorta enjoyed the area at the 
>time, but have also learned that it did not suit me well now that I have found 
>things that suit me better.  I was told very clearly by an elderly poll worker 
>that the old mechanical voting machines would always show up with the D 
>candidate (or the preferred D) votes pre-loaded in the machine, but they 
>learned to go in and reset them so that at least in Melrose the vote was an 
>accurate reflection of the actual polling, and it usually was for the R 
>candidate.
>
>Interestingly enough my wife and I had brunch yesterday with an old friend who 
>was down this way visiting, and we talked a bit about that whole thing.  My 
>wife opined that of all the places we have lived, even here in the Deep South, 
>and in Texas, Mass was by far the most racist and exclusionary place we had 
>experienced.  Maybe racist is not the proper term, as it was more exclusionary 
>based on your ethnic history, which was tempered by the fact that Mass was 
>settled to a large degree, after the Mayflowerites and Puritans and such, buy 
>waves of immigrants from all over, who each started at the bottom of the heap, 
>and thus had the shoulder chips that they and their families carried with them 
>as they clawed their ways up.  So if you were not of their "clan" you were not 
>really accepted.  A "mixed marriage" was seriously defined as an Irish and 
>Italian getting married, even if they were both Catholic (gwawd fahbid one 
>might be an Irish Protestant! [cross
> yourself here!]), and could be the source of much familial consternation, on 
> both sides.
>
>I suppose all that is political, but it is more of a description of how things 
>are/were there as a societal sort of thing.  If you want some entertaining 
>assessment of the situation, read Howie Carr in the Boston Herald, who daily 
>blasts the "hackerama" that the state has become on his radio show, and 
>2-3x/wk in the Herald.  He could probably write volumes every week and still 
>just scratch the surface.
>
>But YMMV, and that is what makes our country great.  I might poke fun at it, 
>but whatevvah floats yah boat if it wooks fah yah...  it's wicket pissa!
>
>--R
>
>On 4/27/12 6:31 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
>Rich Thomas wrote:
>
>There are a few Rs in the state, but given the relative positions of the Ds, 
>an R is probably more like a D anywhere

Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in Mass

2012-04-27 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
The leftist sway of the state has really only impacted me (potentially) as a 
landlord. You know that in MA landlords have no rights! 

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 27, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Rich Thomas  
wrote:

Given the left->far left leanings of most of the state, an R really cannot be 
too "R" or hardly anyone would vote for him or her.  Massachusetts has had an 
interesting history of electing nominally R gubnas, who sorta agitate things a 
bit (or provide a bit of fiscal discipline, which is mostly the reason they get 
elected as far as I could tell, sort of a pendulum swing), but since everything 
else is run by D hacks (except the ones indicted or convicted, but even then 
the ones being investigated keep it going...), including the legislature, it is 
hard to do much that would be classified as conservative (which, for this 
example, I equate to an R).  Mittens was elected I would guess to sorta come in 
and do his Bain consultant thing, get the place sorted out a bit, and leave 
most of the shenanigans alone (not that he could have done much about it 
anyway).  The health care thing, he did what he had to do to get it to work in 
the context of the Ds basically
 running the legislature, so he worked with them, made the sausage and sent it 
over to them.  My guess is, if left to them to do (which they probably would 
not have done on their own as they would have to take full responsibility for 
the disaster) it would have been even worse even more quickly.  Just how it is. 
 There were quite a few R gubnas in the past, most of them were sorta fiscal 
conservatives, as much as can be there, relatively, or go-along-get-along, and 
did not rock the boat much.

(Oh, tangentially and aside, the old-time Dixiecrats here in SC, like ol Fritz 
and Strom et al, are probably more like most of the Rs today, and in some ways 
more extreme, things have swung that far.  Miss Lindsey Graham was a protege of 
Ol Fritz, who is still quite active in the local doings, so that is a reference 
point.  Even those old guys were not a Kennedy type D, and had considerable 
distrust of that kind of D.)

The thing is, most people in Mass (or at least the Boston area) either actively 
vote for that situation (and I had friends who did for reasons completely 
unclear to me, just habit I guess), or at least acquiesce to it, so you just 
need to understand that is how it is.  I found it distressing when I lived 
there, but I lived there for 20yr and sorta enjoyed the area at the time, but 
have also learned that it did not suit me well now that I have found things 
that suit me better.  I was told very clearly by an elderly poll worker that 
the old mechanical voting machines would always show up with the D candidate 
(or the preferred D) votes pre-loaded in the machine, but they learned to go in 
and reset them so that at least in Melrose the vote was an accurate reflection 
of the actual polling, and it usually was for the R candidate.

Interestingly enough my wife and I had brunch yesterday with an old friend who 
was down this way visiting, and we talked a bit about that whole thing.  My 
wife opined that of all the places we have lived, even here in the Deep South, 
and in Texas, Mass was by far the most racist and exclusionary place we had 
experienced.  Maybe racist is not the proper term, as it was more exclusionary 
based on your ethnic history, which was tempered by the fact that Mass was 
settled to a large degree, after the Mayflowerites and Puritans and such, buy 
waves of immigrants from all over, who each started at the bottom of the heap, 
and thus had the shoulder chips that they and their families carried with them 
as they clawed their ways up.  So if you were not of their "clan" you were not 
really accepted.  A "mixed marriage" was seriously defined as an Irish and 
Italian getting married, even if they were both Catholic (gwawd fahbid one 
might be an Irish Protestant! [cross
 yourself here!]), and could be the source of much familial consternation, on 
both sides.

I suppose all that is political, but it is more of a description of how things 
are/were there as a societal sort of thing.  If you want some entertaining 
assessment of the situation, read Howie Carr in the Boston Herald, who daily 
blasts the "hackerama" that the state has become on his radio show, and 2-3x/wk 
in the Herald.  He could probably write volumes every week and still just 
scratch the surface.

But YMMV, and that is what makes our country great.  I might poke fun at it, 
but whatevvah floats yah boat if it wooks fah yah...  it's wicket pissa!

--R

On 4/27/12 6:31 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
Rich Thomas wrote:

There are a few Rs in the state, but given the relative positions of the Ds, an 
R is probably more like a D anywhere else than an R.  I did live in Melrose, 
the only town that voted majority R (even when the voting machines came 
preloaded with the "winner" as was the procedure not that long ago).

Things are getting a little poli

Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in Mass

2012-04-27 Thread Rich Thomas
Given the left->far left leanings of most of the state, an R really 
cannot be too "R" or hardly anyone would vote for him or her.  
Massachusetts has had an interesting history of electing nominally R 
gubnas, who sorta agitate things a bit (or provide a bit of fiscal 
discipline, which is mostly the reason they get elected as far as I 
could tell, sort of a pendulum swing), but since everything else is run 
by D hacks (except the ones indicted or convicted, but even then the 
ones being investigated keep it going...), including the legislature, it 
is hard to do much that would be classified as conservative (which, for 
this example, I equate to an R).  Mittens was elected I would guess to 
sorta come in and do his Bain consultant thing, get the place sorted out 
a bit, and leave most of the shenanigans alone (not that he could have 
done much about it anyway).  The health care thing, he did what he had 
to do to get it to work in the context of the Ds basically running the 
legislature, so he worked with them, made the sausage and sent it over 
to them.  My guess is, if left to them to do (which they probably would 
not have done on their own as they would have to take full 
responsibility for the disaster) it would have been even worse even more 
quickly.  Just how it is.  There were quite a few R gubnas in the past, 
most of them were sorta fiscal conservatives, as much as can be there, 
relatively, or go-along-get-along, and did not rock the boat much.


(Oh, tangentially and aside, the old-time Dixiecrats here in SC, like ol 
Fritz and Strom et al, are probably more like most of the Rs today, and 
in some ways more extreme, things have swung that far.  Miss Lindsey 
Graham was a protege of Ol Fritz, who is still quite active in the local 
doings, so that is a reference point.  Even those old guys were not a 
Kennedy type D, and had considerable distrust of that kind of D.)


The thing is, most people in Mass (or at least the Boston area) either 
actively vote for that situation (and I had friends who did for reasons 
completely unclear to me, just habit I guess), or at least acquiesce to 
it, so you just need to understand that is how it is.  I found it 
distressing when I lived there, but I lived there for 20yr and sorta 
enjoyed the area at the time, but have also learned that it did not suit 
me well now that I have found things that suit me better.  I was told 
very clearly by an elderly poll worker that the old mechanical voting 
machines would always show up with the D candidate (or the preferred D) 
votes pre-loaded in the machine, but they learned to go in and reset 
them so that at least in Melrose the vote was an accurate reflection of 
the actual polling, and it usually was for the R candidate.


Interestingly enough my wife and I had brunch yesterday with an old 
friend who was down this way visiting, and we talked a bit about that 
whole thing.  My wife opined that of all the places we have lived, even 
here in the Deep South, and in Texas, Mass was by far the most racist 
and exclusionary place we had experienced.  Maybe racist is not the 
proper term, as it was more exclusionary based on your ethnic history, 
which was tempered by the fact that Mass was settled to a large degree, 
after the Mayflowerites and Puritans and such, buy waves of immigrants 
from all over, who each started at the bottom of the heap, and thus had 
the shoulder chips that they and their families carried with them as 
they clawed their ways up.  So if you were not of their "clan" you were 
not really accepted.  A "mixed marriage" was seriously defined as an 
Irish and Italian getting married, even if they were both Catholic 
(gwawd fahbid one might be an Irish Protestant! [cross yourself here!]), 
and could be the source of much familial consternation, on both sides.


I suppose all that is political, but it is more of a description of how 
things are/were there as a societal sort of thing.  If you want some 
entertaining assessment of the situation, read Howie Carr in the Boston 
Herald, who daily blasts the "hackerama" that the state has become on 
his radio show, and 2-3x/wk in the Herald.  He could probably write 
volumes every week and still just scratch the surface.


But YMMV, and that is what makes our country great.  I might poke fun at 
it, but whatevvah floats yah boat if it wooks fah yah...  it's wicket pissa!


--R

On 4/27/12 6:31 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Rich Thomas wrote:

There are a few Rs in the state, but given the relative positions of 
the Ds, an R is probably more like a D anywhere else than an R.  I 
did live in Melrose, the only town that voted majority R (even when 
the voting machines came preloaded with the "winner" as was the 
procedure not that long ago).


Things are getting a little political, but I've just got to respond to 
that.
Are you talking about Willard M. Romney, or just saying that every 
electable Republican in MA is similar to him?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-27 Thread Mitch Haley

Rich Thomas wrote:

There are a few Rs in the state, but given the relative positions of the 
Ds, an R is probably more like a D anywhere else than an R.  I did live 
in Melrose, the only town that voted majority R (even when the voting 
machines came preloaded with the "winner" as was the procedure not that 
long ago).


Things are getting a little political, but I've just got to respond to that.
Are you talking about Willard M. Romney, or just saying that every electable 
Republican in MA is similar to him?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread WILTON

My 3 Skidoo (Bombardier) snowmobiles ('71/'72)had CVT's.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond" 

To: "Diesel List" 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?



CVT - Constantly (or continuously) variable transmission.

Infinitely variable infers you'll have infinite ratios.

Both snowmobiles and bulldozers have had CVTs for years and years 
(snowmobiles started using them in the late '50s) recently people are 
acting like its an amazing new idea. Sure its a new application and there 
are lots of issues to overcome in heavy trucks but the idea isn't new.


-Curt

Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:02:39 -0700
From: G Mann 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?
Message-ID:
   
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One of my projects is working with a gentleman in Oz. who has invented a
very ingenious IVT  [Infinitely Variable Transmission] which is capable of
being developed for use in high load/high horsepower applications.

Most interesting in using the IVT in long haul trucks would be the ability
to set the engine at peak efficiency RPM and then "drive the transmission"
to adjust for change in load, road conditions and speed. The truck [or 
bus]

would always be "in the right gear".

There would be a clutch or a torque converter to uncouple the engine /
transmission and for start, however the transmission will shift under load
into any ratio without "normal gear clash".  In fact, by the current
design, it would be possible to go from the highest ratio to full reverse
at speed. Obviously, in application, that "feature" will be locked out...
;)).

If the project works out, the IVT will select ratio based on a combination
of wheel speed and load, controlled by the "foot feed", so the driver 
would
actually be controlling the transmission ratio rather than the engine 
speed
to adjust for change in terrain or traffic demand, while the engine runs 
at

peak efficiency for maximum fuel economy.

Since the trucking industry is second only to the airline industry in
billions of gallons of fuel used, the savings could be "large" worldwide.

Grant...

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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-27 Thread WILTON

Tea has ice with/in it, too.  ;<)

Wilton
Also an NCSU grad, BSCE '71; (also class of '56, ME/Aero, 3 years)

- Original Message - 
From: "Tim C" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country



On Apr 26, 2012 7:42 PM, "Craig"  wrote:


I also take it that those on the list don't really like Massachusetts.


In my experience it's the people, not the place, and yes they seem to be
all over. :)

I didn't respond before, but we've been really happy in the RTP area of
NC.  It's a few hours to mountain, a few hours to beach, decent 
temperature

ranges, far enough inland that hurricanes only rarely cause problems, far
enough south that there's rarely snow, lots of city parks and trees and 
the

boonies are only 15 minutes from anywhere.  Nice enough people, especially
in the surrounding little towns.  "Bad traffic" only means it takes 50%
more travel time.

I'm in old Durham (city proper) so local crime rates are closer to the
Northeast, but in the genteel areas of the Triangle crime is almost
nonexistent (though you have to have an appreciation for conformity to
survive there).  Where I am there's a mix of liberal, libertarian, working
class, crazy rich, high school dropouts, drug dealers, drug chemists, drug
pushers, M.D.s, and Ph.D.s, though there are plenty of other areas that
trend to one demographic or another.  In all I prefer the oddball
population so I put up with the petty theft, but there are definitely 
areas
(Cary) where that's not an issue. (For my part I am happy that my kids 
know

and respect all kinds of people, but I seem to recall your kids are older
anyway.)

There is a local 4% unemployment in the tech sector, not sure how that
translates to academics.  There is a respectable nuke eng program at NC
State, and of course Shearon Harris is nearby and always planning to
expand, if you're considering industry.  Aside from the research
universities, there are a number of second tier colleges/universities that
are surprisingly well funded and cooperate with the big three for research
and coursework.  Cost of living and of land is relatively low, weather is
survivable on both ends, the tea has sugar in it, and barbecue is made 
from

pigs and vinegar.

I'm not sure we'll live here forever, but it is a great place to settle;
there are a lot of people who moved around for work and then came back to
retire, even though their families are nowhere near.  Every time we've
considered moving we've talked about putting the house for rent so we 
could

come back to it.

Anyway, if you could land a job at one of the unis it is a nice place to
be.  In any case I suspect  wherever you end up you'll be happy with it!

Best,

-Tim

NCSU graduate, married to NCCU/UNC student, lives less than a mile from
Duke property
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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-27 Thread Rich Thomas
I think the spawn of one of the idiot nephews (this does not narrow 
things down much, I know, but... maybe Patches's boy?  Oh, wait, Patches 
is the drunk, right?  Not that that narrows things down much either...) 
is running for Bwawney's, uh, seat.  (Sorry, I didn't mean that, it's 
just a phrase...)


You could name your dog Kennedy and put him on the ballot for anything 
and he would probably get elected.  But why would you do that to your dog?


There are a few Rs in the state, but given the relative positions of the 
Ds, an R is probably more like a D anywhere else than an R.  I did live 
in Melrose, the only town that voted majority R (even when the voting 
machines came preloaded with the "winner" as was the procedure not that 
long ago).



Ah, the fond memories from many miles away...  And BTW, Teddy K has been 
sober for going on 4 years now!


--R

On 4/27/12 2:49 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Which is why I wanted to point out that theres more to the state than Boston 
and the Cape...

We don't have ANY Kennedys in office right now at all which is kind of weird.

One of my college buddies is a state legislator and hes a REPUBLICAN. I give 
him hell daily.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:27:44 -0400
From: Rich Thomas
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the
 country
Message-ID:<4f9ae520.5040...@constructivity.net>
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One word:  Kennedy

( I could throw in a few more, like Bwawney Fwank, Billy Bulger, John
"Do you know who I am?" Kerry, etc.)

--R

On 4/27/12 2:08 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

Really kind of an ideal state if you ask me.

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Re: [MBZ] We Can Replate them!

2012-04-27 Thread clay monroe
I have not gone the official route, since I am trying to do this as 
inexpensively as possible.  Knowing the w116 uses the same reflector is proving 
to be a boon.  I have found a few on fleabay that will come in under $100 for 
the whole assembly.  I take that part I need and flog the assembly back only 
fleabay for the cost of the glass.

clay

On Apr 27, 2012, at 12:02 PM, David Bruckmann wrote:

> Reflector A001 826 12 78 (EPC says it applies only to R/C107; 124 uses a 
> different reflector) lists in Germany for 124 Euro. There appears to be 
> little correlation between German and US prices, and I have often been able 
> to get things here at considerably lower cost than the German list. Have you 
> checked with Tom Hanson at the Classic Center?
> 
> 
> Clay Monroe wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, for $300 each, the buckets can get all made just like new.  So now the 
>> hunt is on for not totally messed up buckets.  If I could get a person to 
>> fab them out of brass, that would make this a much less painful endeavor.  
>> At least it is not some huge headlight, like for a finback.  I should look 
>> into if w124 euro would swap with w107
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-27 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Logan is a dream compared to Kennedy which is more ghetto that the shittiest 
third world country airport.

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On Apr 27, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

What the who now? Boston is one of the dirtiest cities in the developed world. 
Logan is one of the most depressing airports I've ever been to, with the 
exception of Terminal A.

Nothing in the public sector gets cleaned here, EVER. The T is a decent public 
transport but the stations are filthy dirty even when compared to NYC...

-Curt

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I joke around about MA but I think it's a great state. As Curt already 
mentioned it has a lot to offer. Boston is clean, beautiful and manageable. The 
abundance of colleges and universities keep it fun and lively. You have close 
proximity to the Cape, NH, ME and VT and really not all that far from NY. And 
all the high end MB restoration shops are a nice plus. Really kind of an ideal 
state if you ask me. 

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Re: [MBZ] Non-rotating Diesel start

2012-04-27 Thread WILTON

'Zackly.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Craig" 

To: 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Non-rotating Diesel start



On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:01:02 -0400 "WILTON"  wrote:


I think when the key returned to "ON/RUNNING" position (power removed
from starter), more electricity was able to go to glow plugs and got
them hot enough to fire at least one cyl that was was exactly at the
top of the compression stroke and ready to fire. What ya think?  How's
that for non-rotating start.


Interesting. Betcha can't do it again. :-)

At least, though, you didn't need to jump start it to go get a new
battery.


Craig

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[MBZ] We Can Replate them!

2012-04-27 Thread David Bruckmann
Reflector A001 826 12 78 (EPC says it applies only to R/C107; 124 uses a 
different reflector) lists in Germany for 124 Euro. There appears to be little 
correlation between German and US prices, and I have often been able to get 
things here at considerably lower cost than the German list. Have you checked 
with Tom Hanson at the Classic Center?


Clay Monroe wrote:
>
>Yeah, for $300 each, the buckets can get all made just like new.  So now the 
>hunt is on for not totally messed up buckets.  If I could get a person to fab 
>them out of brass, that would make this a much less painful endeavor.  At 
>least it is not some huge headlight, like for a finback.  I should look into 
>if w124 euro would swap with w107



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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-27 Thread Curt Raymond
Which is why I wanted to point out that theres more to the state than Boston 
and the Cape...

We don't have ANY Kennedys in office right now at all which is kind of weird.

One of my college buddies is a state legislator and hes a REPUBLICAN. I give 
him hell daily.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:27:44 -0400
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One word:  Kennedy

( I could throw in a few more, like Bwawney Fwank, Billy Bulger, John 
"Do you know who I am?" Kerry, etc.)

--R

On 4/27/12 2:08 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
> Really kind of an ideal state if you ask me.

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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-27 Thread Curt Raymond
What the who now? Boston is one of the dirtiest cities in the developed world. 
Logan is one of the most depressing airports I've ever been to, with the 
exception of Terminal A.

Nothing in the public sector gets cleaned here, EVER. The T is a decent public 
transport but the stations are filthy dirty even when compared to NYC...

-Curt

Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:08:26 -0700 (PDT)
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I joke around about MA but I think it's a great state. As Curt already 
mentioned it has a lot to offer. Boston is clean, beautiful and manageable. The 
abundance of colleges and universities keep it fun and lively. You have close 
proximity to the Cape, NH, ME and VT and really not all that far from NY. And 
all the high end MB restoration shops are a nice plus. Really kind of an ideal 
state if you ask me. 

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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-27 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Hey we massholes can't be perfect!

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On Apr 27, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Rich Thomas  
wrote:

One word:  Kennedy

( I could throw in a few more, like Bwawney Fwank, Billy Bulger, John "Do you 
know who I am?" Kerry, etc.)

--R

On 4/27/12 2:08 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
Really kind of an ideal state if you ask me.

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Re: [MBZ] Non-rotating Diesel start

2012-04-27 Thread Craig
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:01:02 -0400 "WILTON"  wrote:

> I think when the key returned to "ON/RUNNING" position (power removed
> from starter), more electricity was able to go to glow plugs and got
> them hot enough to fire at least one cyl that was was exactly at the
> top of the compression stroke and ready to fire. What ya think?  How's
> that for non-rotating start.

Interesting. Betcha can't do it again. :-)

At least, though, you didn't need to jump start it to go get a new
battery.


Craig

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[MBZ] We Can Replate them!

2012-04-27 Thread clay monroe
Yeah, for $300 each, the buckets can get all made just like new.  So now the 
hunt is on for not totally messed up buckets.  If I could get a person to fab 
them out of brass, that would make this a much less painful endeavor.  At least 
it is not some huge headlight, like for a finback.  I should look into if w124 
euro would swap with w107

clay 


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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-27 Thread Rich Thomas

One word:  Kennedy

( I could throw in a few more, like Bwawney Fwank, Billy Bulger, John 
"Do you know who I am?" Kerry, etc.)


--R

On 4/27/12 2:08 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

Really kind of an ideal state if you ask me.


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Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread Curt Raymond
CVT - Constantly (or continuously) variable transmission.

Infinitely variable infers you'll have infinite ratios.

Both snowmobiles and bulldozers have had CVTs for years and years (snowmobiles 
started using them in the late '50s) recently people are acting like its an 
amazing new idea. Sure its a new application and there are lots of issues to 
overcome in heavy trucks but the idea isn't new.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:02:39 -0700
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One of my projects is working with a gentleman in Oz. who has invented a
very ingenious IVT  [Infinitely Variable Transmission] which is capable of
being developed for use in high load/high horsepower applications.

Most interesting in using the IVT in long haul trucks would be the ability
to set the engine at peak efficiency RPM and then "drive the transmission"
to adjust for change in load, road conditions and speed. The truck [or bus]
would always be "in the right gear".

There would be a clutch or a torque converter to uncouple the engine /
transmission and for start, however the transmission will shift under load
into any ratio without "normal gear clash".  In fact, by the current
design, it would be possible to go from the highest ratio to full reverse
at speed. Obviously, in application, that "feature" will be locked out...
;)).

If the project works out, the IVT will select ratio based on a combination
of wheel speed and load, controlled by the "foot feed", so the driver would
actually be controlling the transmission ratio rather than the engine speed
to adjust for change in terrain or traffic demand, while the engine runs at
peak efficiency for maximum fuel economy.

Since the trucking industry is second only to the airline industry in
billions of gallons of fuel used, the savings could be "large" worldwide.

Grant...

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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-27 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I joke around about MA but I think it's a great state. As Curt already 
mentioned it has a lot to offer. Boston is clean, beautiful and manageable. The 
abundance of colleges and universities keep it fun and lively. You have close 
proximity to the Cape, NH, ME and VT and really not all that far from NY. And 
all the high end MB restoration shops are a nice plus. Really kind of an ideal 
state if you ask me. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 27, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Tim C  wrote:

On Apr 26, 2012 7:42 PM, "Craig"  wrote:

I also take it that those on the list don't really like Massachusetts.

In my experience it's the people, not the place, and yes they seem to be
all over. :)

I didn't respond before, but we've been really happy in the RTP area of
NC.  It's a few hours to mountain, a few hours to beach, decent temperature
ranges, far enough inland that hurricanes only rarely cause problems, far
enough south that there's rarely snow, lots of city parks and trees and the
boonies are only 15 minutes from anywhere.  Nice enough people, especially
in the surrounding little towns.  "Bad traffic" only means it takes 50%
more travel time.

I'm in old Durham (city proper) so local crime rates are closer to the
Northeast, but in the genteel areas of the Triangle crime is almost
nonexistent (though you have to have an appreciation for conformity to
survive there).  Where I am there's a mix of liberal, libertarian, working
class, crazy rich, high school dropouts, drug dealers, drug chemists, drug
pushers, M.D.s, and Ph.D.s, though there are plenty of other areas that
trend to one demographic or another.  In all I prefer the oddball
population so I put up with the petty theft, but there are definitely areas
(Cary) where that's not an issue. (For my part I am happy that my kids know
and respect all kinds of people, but I seem to recall your kids are older
anyway.)

There is a local 4% unemployment in the tech sector, not sure how that
translates to academics.  There is a respectable nuke eng program at NC
State, and of course Shearon Harris is nearby and always planning to
expand, if you're considering industry.  Aside from the research
universities, there are a number of second tier colleges/universities that
are surprisingly well funded and cooperate with the big three for research
and coursework.  Cost of living and of land is relatively low, weather is
survivable on both ends, the tea has sugar in it, and barbecue is made from
pigs and vinegar.

I'm not sure we'll live here forever, but it is a great place to settle;
there are a lot of people who moved around for work and then came back to
retire, even though their families are nowhere near.  Every time we've
considered moving we've talked about putting the house for rent so we could
come back to it.

Anyway, if you could land a job at one of the unis it is a nice place to
be.  In any case I suspect  wherever you end up you'll be happy with it!

Best,

-Tim

NCSU graduate, married to NCCU/UNC student, lives less than a mile from
Duke property
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Medical Records: was Light Reading of crash data

2012-04-27 Thread Curt Raymond
Betamax was a higher RESOLUTION  solution but the tapes were too short to 
record most movies, thus it was not a BETTER solution.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:11:22 -0400
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Sounds like Betamax: a better solution but the "market" (in this case the
Gvt) went a different way.

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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-27 Thread Curt Raymond
Actually I'm not that big a fan of MA, I live here because you can't make any 
money doing what I do in ME which is where I'm from.

I've never understood how NH could be part of the original 13 and MA got 
Maine...

-Curt

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Someone here's a big MA fan:) You forgot to mention Maine which was part of 
Massachusetts. Bowdoin College which was technically located in MA when it was 
founded in 1794 was named after the then governor of Massachusetts, James 
Bowdoin. And what about New Hampshire? I'm not sure if that was part of MA. 

Sent from my iPhon

On Apr 27, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

Theres a lot more to Massachusetts than greater Boston although I think many 
(most?) people here don't realize that.
Theres actually 3 states here (maybe 4), greater Boston is one and extends at 
least to 495, maybe all the way to Worcester. Then theres central MA which is 
arguably north central MA which includes a lot of the old mill cities like 
Lowell and Fitchburg (Fitchburg State University (was Fitchburg State College 
when I was there) is quite a good and affordable school, especially for nursing 
and video/film production))

Western MA is a whole different place too and extends north and west from 
Springfield more or less and includes some real hippie hangouts like Amherst 
(another college town) and Northampton.

It could be argued the Cape is yet another region and I might argue for the 
strip around RI being more like RI than the rest of MA.

Sure there are plenty of drunken idiots but aren't they everywhere?

This is one of those states with spread, we've got rockbound coast (north of 
Boston) beaches (the cape), mountains (what passes for mountains on the east 
coast anyway) and plains (Amherst area is a big bowl). Theres good class IV 
whitewater, good snowmobiling, surfing, sun worshiping, lots of higher 
education from Harvard to Mt. Wachusett community college and lots and lots of 
breweries (Samual Adams, Harpoon, Mt. Wachusett, Mill City, Berkshire Brewing, 
Nashoba Valley Winery, Boston Beer Works, Lowell Beer Works, Gardner Ale House, 
Cape Ann Brewing, The Peoples Pint, Paper City Brewing, Buzzards Bay Brewing, 
and thats just the ones I know of).

Depends on what you're into I guess.

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-27 Thread Tim C
On Apr 26, 2012 7:42 PM, "Craig"  wrote:

> I also take it that those on the list don't really like Massachusetts.

In my experience it's the people, not the place, and yes they seem to be
all over. :)

I didn't respond before, but we've been really happy in the RTP area of
NC.  It's a few hours to mountain, a few hours to beach, decent temperature
ranges, far enough inland that hurricanes only rarely cause problems, far
enough south that there's rarely snow, lots of city parks and trees and the
boonies are only 15 minutes from anywhere.  Nice enough people, especially
in the surrounding little towns.  "Bad traffic" only means it takes 50%
more travel time.

I'm in old Durham (city proper) so local crime rates are closer to the
Northeast, but in the genteel areas of the Triangle crime is almost
nonexistent (though you have to have an appreciation for conformity to
survive there).  Where I am there's a mix of liberal, libertarian, working
class, crazy rich, high school dropouts, drug dealers, drug chemists, drug
pushers, M.D.s, and Ph.D.s, though there are plenty of other areas that
trend to one demographic or another.  In all I prefer the oddball
population so I put up with the petty theft, but there are definitely areas
(Cary) where that's not an issue. (For my part I am happy that my kids know
and respect all kinds of people, but I seem to recall your kids are older
anyway.)

There is a local 4% unemployment in the tech sector, not sure how that
translates to academics.  There is a respectable nuke eng program at NC
State, and of course Shearon Harris is nearby and always planning to
expand, if you're considering industry.  Aside from the research
universities, there are a number of second tier colleges/universities that
are surprisingly well funded and cooperate with the big three for research
and coursework.  Cost of living and of land is relatively low, weather is
survivable on both ends, the tea has sugar in it, and barbecue is made from
pigs and vinegar.

I'm not sure we'll live here forever, but it is a great place to settle;
there are a lot of people who moved around for work and then came back to
retire, even though their families are nowhere near.  Every time we've
considered moving we've talked about putting the house for rent so we could
come back to it.

Anyway, if you could land a job at one of the unis it is a nice place to
be.  In any case I suspect  wherever you end up you'll be happy with it!

Best,

-Tim

NCSU graduate, married to NCCU/UNC student, lives less than a mile from
Duke property
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[MBZ] British space-plane engine

2012-04-27 Thread Max
Very cool, breathes air or supplies oxygen for airless operation.

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17864782

-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-27 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Tell me about it! I visited him in 2003 or 2004 and saw the famous Black Prince 
Count Trossi SSK that he restored for Ralph Lauren. What an incredible car! 
Seeing gullwings in bare metal was also another droolworthy experience.

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On Apr 27, 2012, at 1:38 PM, andrew strasfogel  wrote:

Bring along a six figure checkbook!

On 4/27/12, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
Right next to Essex and you can visit Paul Russell and Co. Restorations.

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On Apr 27, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Rich Thomas
 wrote:

Ipswich!

--R

On 4/27/12 12:28 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
lots and lots of breweries (Samual Adams, Harpoon, Mt. Wachusett, Mill City,
Berkshire Brewing, Nashoba Valley Winery, Boston Beer Works, Lowell Beer
Works, Gardner Ale House, Cape Ann Brewing, The Peoples Pint, Paper City
Brewing, Buzzards Bay Brewing, and thats just the ones I know of).

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[MBZ] Timing chain fun

2012-04-27 Thread Max
Spent last few hours struggling to set the IP timing in the white whale ('87 
300TD).  New head was torqued down earlier this week, lifters and camshaft in 
place.  Installed the new chain tensioner and then found the IP timing way off. 
 Must have let the chain slip at some point.  Considered pulling the pump, 
decided to move the chain on the IP timer instead.  Fun fun fun, but now that's 
done.  Next up: vacuum pump, turbo, alternator, intake manifold

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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-27 Thread andrew strasfogel
Bring along a six figure checkbook!

On 4/27/12, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> Right next to Essex and you can visit Paul Russell and Co. Restorations.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 27, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Rich Thomas
>  wrote:
>
> Ipswich!
>
> --R
>
> On 4/27/12 12:28 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> lots and lots of breweries (Samual Adams, Harpoon, Mt. Wachusett, Mill City,
> Berkshire Brewing, Nashoba Valley Winery, Boston Beer Works, Lowell Beer
> Works, Gardner Ale House, Cape Ann Brewing, The Peoples Pint, Paper City
> Brewing, Buzzards Bay Brewing, and thats just the ones I know of).
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Medical Records: was Light Reading of crash data

2012-04-27 Thread Max
Scott Ritchey  wrote:

>Holy smokes!  I just finished reading "Anthem" by Ayn Rand.  It was one
>of
>the free Kindle books I downloaded wo check out my wife's kindle.
>
>
Opens your eyes and makes you rather sick at the same time.  Follow up with:

 http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html

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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-27 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Right next to Essex and you can visit Paul Russell and Co. Restorations. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 27, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Rich Thomas  
wrote:

Ipswich!

--R

On 4/27/12 12:28 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
lots and lots of breweries (Samual Adams, Harpoon, Mt. Wachusett, Mill City, 
Berkshire Brewing, Nashoba Valley Winery, Boston Beer Works, Lowell Beer Works, 
Gardner Ale House, Cape Ann Brewing, The Peoples Pint, Paper City Brewing, 
Buzzards Bay Brewing, and thats just the ones I know of).

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Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread Max
G Mann  wrote:

>One of my projects is working with a gentleman in Oz. who has invented
>a
>very ingenious IVT  [Infinitely Variable Transmission] which is capable
>of

Sounds very cool, I'd wondered when an IVT  design would really take over 
market share.

Please keep us posted as you can.  The fuel consumption savings would affect 
all surface transportation, not just the trucking industry.  

A great feature would be kits to retrofit OTR and other heavy trucks.


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Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread Rich Thomas
I wonder if a diesel/electric, like a locomotive, would be efficient?  
Would have to run the numbers, but that would be interesting -- max 
torque at 0mph, etc.


--R

On 4/27/12 1:02 PM, G Mann wrote:

One of my projects is working with a gentleman in Oz. who has invented a
very ingenious IVT  [Infinitely Variable Transmission] which is capable of
being developed for use in high load/high horsepower applications.

Most interesting in using the IVT in long haul trucks would be the ability
to set the engine at peak efficiency RPM and then "drive the transmission"
to adjust for change in load, road conditions and speed. The truck [or bus]
would always be "in the right gear".

There would be a clutch or a torque converter to uncouple the engine /
transmission and for start, however the transmission will shift under load
into any ratio without "normal gear clash".  In fact, by the current
design, it would be possible to go from the highest ratio to full reverse
at speed. Obviously, in application, that "feature" will be locked out...
;)).

If the project works out, the IVT will select ratio based on a combination
of wheel speed and load, controlled by the "foot feed", so the driver would
actually be controlling the transmission ratio rather than the engine speed
to adjust for change in terrain or traffic demand, while the engine runs at
peak efficiency for maximum fuel economy.

Since the trucking industry is second only to the airline industry in
billions of gallons of fuel used, the savings could be "large" worldwide.

Grant...


On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Peter Hertzing  wrote:


Well for several years mci and prevost (bus makers) and I'm sure big truck
makers as well played with auto sticks where you just used a clutch to
start then it was a direct drive automatic.  Got a little better mileage.
And didn't require shifting.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 27, 2012, at 12:30 AM, Fmiser  wrote:


Randy Bennell wrote:
If MB intended you to do that, they wouldn't have bothered to
put in a clutch pedal.

Heh.  The clutch pedal is for starting moving from a full stop.
After that, it's just there to confuse the plebeians.

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-27 Thread Rich Thomas

Ipswich!

--R

On 4/27/12 12:28 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

lots and lots of breweries (Samual Adams, Harpoon, Mt. Wachusett, Mill City, 
Berkshire Brewing, Nashoba Valley Winery, Boston Beer Works, Lowell Beer Works, 
Gardner Ale House, Cape Ann Brewing, The Peoples Pint, Paper City Brewing, 
Buzzards Bay Brewing, and thats just the ones I know of).


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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-27 Thread Rich Thomas
Some friends of ours (who live in Salem) decided to go to Ptown for 
their anniversary one year, it was in the fall or winter, fairly dead 
time.  They got a nice B&B or something and came time to go out to 
dinner.  So they're sitting there having dinner, and Brian looks around 
and sorta notices something a bit odd but couldn't quite place it.  
After a few minutes he realizes he is the only man in the restaurant -- 
other patrons, servers, cooks, everyone else was female.  He sorta 
bookmarked that but continued on to enjoy the meal.


The beaches there are nice, I vaguely recall going there once a long 
time ago.


--R

On 4/27/12 1:00 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Provincetown is quite amazing.  Lots of cool restaurants and totally
debauched.  We went whale watching one Labor Day weekend and saw blue
whales.:)


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Medical Records: was Light Reading of crash data

2012-04-27 Thread Scott Ritchey
Holy smokes!  I just finished reading "Anthem" by Ayn Rand.  It was one of
the free Kindle books I downloaded wo check out my wife's kindle.

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of G Mann
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 12:10 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Medical Records: was Light Reading of crash data

I second that. Motion carries. [in "committee speak" nothing further will
be heard ;)) ]

"We the People" have been out shouted by "We the Committee", who have been
given voice by "we're the news". Thus the perception that the committee
rules.  They do not.  We the People vote with our wallets, not our mouths,
and the current economy is exactly that, a giant loss for the committee, a
vote of "no confidence", if you will.

The Fat Lady is in her dressing room, waiting for her cue to take the stage
and sing... soon.

Grant...

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 5:14 AM,  wrote:

> Allan,
> The AMA does not represent the majority of doctors, that's why our current
> president went to them for support on his healthcare bill...to give us the
> taxpayers the appearance that the medical community supported this
> legislation. Nor do most CPA's support keeping the tax code
> complicated...it's a nightmare for them keeping current with new tax laws,
> etc. Nor do most older people support the AARP because of its strange
views
> of what will help the elderly. Unfortunately in our USA, a group gets a
lot
> of money and then gets publicity because news reporters are too lazy to
dig
> for a story and then they get hyped as "representing" a particular segment
> of society. Good doctors don't want to repeat unnecessary tests because
> they know the potential harm of certain tests, but then they also have
that
> fine line of being sued for not running a test to help diagnose a patient.
> With the help of political correctness and letting the children run the
> country, we are back to the 60's. I for one did not care for the 60's. And
> I don't care much for what I've seen so far in the 2000's. To me, groups
> and organizations are much like committees.
> Best Wishes,
>
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new)
> www.rubylane.com/shops/sna (antique)
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Medical Records: was Light Reading of crash data

2012-04-27 Thread Scott Ritchey
Sounds like Betamax: a better solution but the "market" (in this case the
Gvt) went a different way.

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On Behalf Of G Mann
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:21 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Medical Records: was Light Reading of crash data

Good point. I studied the VA system while devising my own. Just as the old
DOS system for computers "worked, but was slow and cumbersome" the current
VA system handles patient information equally as poorly.

Bill Gates [you might remember him] streamlined the DOS system [over time
at least] and made it more "user friendly". It still did about the same
thing as the DOS system, in principle at least, but normal people [still
debated by some] could use it.

My system does, in principle, the same thing. It takes cumbersome loads of
information, makes it simple to enter, simple to decipher, and readily
accessed while fully under the control of the end user, the patient. It's
not a simple system, but it's simple to use.  Thus, I thought it worthy of
copyright.  Eventually, it will be worthy of investing and marketing to the
masses. Perhaps.

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Dimitri Seretakis
wrote:

> BTW the medical records at VA hospitals have been computerized for a very,
> very long time. Having worked at all kinds of hospitals as a surgical
> resident I can tell you that accessing a VA patients records was a breeze.
> In a regular hospital it was a nightmare. The drawback of the VA system is
> that all notes and orders must be entered into a computer which can get
> tedious and be impractical as well. I'm not sure about today as I left the
> doctoring business five years ago.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 26, 2012, at 7:42 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:
>
> Grant wrote:
> Actually, it is still a viable system plan, if you happen to know any
> investors with enough staying power to place it on the market, please feel
> free to collect a finders fee..
>
> Aren't there tech incubators that push this type of stuff forward?
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-27 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I drove through Harvard (Hahvid), MA on Monday to visit Oldtimer Restorations 
and was impressed with the beauty of that town. Full of winding scenic roads, 
beautiful historic homes and picturesque farms. I went with the 240D with manny 
tranny and had fun on those roads. Would have been more fun in the pagoda with 
top down or the BMW 2002 if I ever get that project done! Oldtimer was 
unfortunately closed. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 27, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

What he said. After Northern CA, MA was our next choice for many of the reasons 
stated. Great place, even better if you get out of Boston (Bahston).

The Cape is nice, but if you drop your keys in Provincetown you have to kick 
them back to Boston before you can bend over to pick them up



Dan who still isn't sure how he ended up in FL

On Apr 27, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

Theres a lot more to Massachusetts than greater Boston although I think many 
(most?) people here don't realize that.
Theres actually 3 states here (maybe 4), greater Boston is one and extends at 
least to 495, maybe all the way to Worcester. Then theres central MA which is 
arguably north central MA which includes a lot of the old mill cities like 
Lowell and Fitchburg (Fitchburg State University (was Fitchburg State College 
when I was there) is quite a good and affordable school, especially for nursing 
and video/film production))

Western MA is a whole different place too and extends north and west from 
Springfield more or less and includes some real hippie hangouts like Amherst 
(another college town) and Northampton.

It could be argued the Cape is yet another region and I might argue for the 
strip around RI being more like RI than the rest of MA.

Sure there are plenty of drunken idiots but aren't they everywhere?

This is one of those states with spread, we've got rockbound coast (north of 
Boston) beaches (the cape), mountains (what passes for mountains on the east 
coast anyway) and plains (Amherst area is a big bowl). Theres good class IV 
whitewater, good snowmobiling, surfing, sun worshiping, lots of higher 
education from Harvard to Mt. Wachusett community college and lots and lots of 
breweries (Samual Adams, Harpoon, Mt. Wachusett, Mill City, Berkshire Brewing, 
Nashoba Valley Winery, Boston Beer Works, Lowell Beer Works, Gardner Ale House, 
Cape Ann Brewing, The Peoples Pint, Paper City Brewing, Buzzards Bay Brewing, 
and thats just the ones I know of).

Depends on what you're into I guess.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:42:19 -0600
From: Craig 
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the
  country
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis
 wrote:

Haha. Gotta love the Massholes.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 26, 2012, at 6:25 PM, Rich Thomas
 wrote:

That's Summuhvull, Gateway to Meffuh

--R

On 4/26/12 5:58 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
Sounds nicer than Slumerville, MA.

I take it the town names are Somerville and Medford.

I also take it that those on the list don't really like Massachusetts.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread G Mann
One of my projects is working with a gentleman in Oz. who has invented a
very ingenious IVT  [Infinitely Variable Transmission] which is capable of
being developed for use in high load/high horsepower applications.

Most interesting in using the IVT in long haul trucks would be the ability
to set the engine at peak efficiency RPM and then "drive the transmission"
to adjust for change in load, road conditions and speed. The truck [or bus]
would always be "in the right gear".

There would be a clutch or a torque converter to uncouple the engine /
transmission and for start, however the transmission will shift under load
into any ratio without "normal gear clash".  In fact, by the current
design, it would be possible to go from the highest ratio to full reverse
at speed. Obviously, in application, that "feature" will be locked out...
;)).

If the project works out, the IVT will select ratio based on a combination
of wheel speed and load, controlled by the "foot feed", so the driver would
actually be controlling the transmission ratio rather than the engine speed
to adjust for change in terrain or traffic demand, while the engine runs at
peak efficiency for maximum fuel economy.

Since the trucking industry is second only to the airline industry in
billions of gallons of fuel used, the savings could be "large" worldwide.

Grant...


On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Peter Hertzing  wrote:

> Well for several years mci and prevost (bus makers) and I'm sure big truck
> makers as well played with auto sticks where you just used a clutch to
> start then it was a direct drive automatic.  Got a little better mileage.
> And didn't require shifting.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 27, 2012, at 12:30 AM, Fmiser  wrote:
>
> >> Randy Bennell wrote:
> >
> >> If MB intended you to do that, they wouldn't have bothered to
> >> put in a clutch pedal.
> >
> > Heh.  The clutch pedal is for starting moving from a full stop.
> > After that, it's just there to confuse the plebeians.
> >
> > --Philip
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[MBZ] Non-rotating Diesel start

2012-04-27 Thread WILTON
Interesting little thing occurred coupla years ago one morning when I was 
starting the '87 300D.  ('Don't remember if I've told the list about this 
before, or not.  If so, feel free to ban me.)  For a coupla mornings 
previously, I had notice that battery was getting weak.  Checked it's purchase 
date, and decided to just go ahead and get new one.  When starting the car to 
go purchase the new battery, I did the normal wait for glow light out and 
turned the key to "START."  The engine and starter did only a very short slow 
groan and stopped; I could tell that it needed to turn just ever slightly more 
to start.  It has always started with just a "touch" of the  starter - no 
grinding, and seemingly, not even a complete rotation to start.  This time, 
after the engine had stopped its very brief rotation (only a fraction of a 
cycle or complete rotation), I held the key in "START" position for another 2 
or 3 sec hoping it would turn just a bit more and start.  Realizing that it 
wasn't going to start, I released the key.  The instant the key returned to the 
"ON AND RUNNING" position it, quietly and instantaneously began its usual 
idling "purr."  Some call it, "Klatta, klatta."  I think when the key returned 
to "ON/RUNNING" position (power removed from starter), more electricity was 
able to go to glow plugs and got them hot enough to fire at least one cyl that 
was was exactly at the top of the compression stroke and ready to fire.  What 
ya think?  How's that for non-rotating start.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-27 Thread andrew strasfogel
Provincetown is quite amazing.  Lots of cool restaurants and totally
debauched.  We went whale watching one Labor Day weekend and saw blue
whales.  :)

On 4/27/12, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> Someone here's a big MA fan:) You forgot to mention Maine which was part of
> Massachusetts. Bowdoin College which was technically located in MA when it
> was founded in 1794 was named after the then governor of Massachusetts,
> James Bowdoin. And what about New Hampshire? I'm not sure if that was part
> of MA.
>
> Sent from my iPhon
>
> On Apr 27, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>
> Theres a lot more to Massachusetts than greater Boston although I think many
> (most?) people here don't realize that.
> Theres actually 3 states here (maybe 4), greater Boston is one and extends
> at least to 495, maybe all the way to Worcester. Then theres central MA
> which is arguably north central MA which includes a lot of the old mill
> cities like Lowell and Fitchburg (Fitchburg State University (was Fitchburg
> State College when I was there) is quite a good and affordable school,
> especially for nursing and video/film production))
>
> Western MA is a whole different place too and extends north and west from
> Springfield more or less and includes some real hippie hangouts like Amherst
> (another college town) and Northampton.
>
> It could be argued the Cape is yet another region and I might argue for the
> strip around RI being more like RI than the rest of MA.
>
> Sure there are plenty of drunken idiots but aren't they everywhere?
>
> This is one of those states with spread, we've got rockbound coast (north of
> Boston) beaches (the cape), mountains (what passes for mountains on the east
> coast anyway) and plains (Amherst area is a big bowl). Theres good class IV
> whitewater, good snowmobiling, surfing, sun worshiping, lots of higher
> education from Harvard to Mt. Wachusett community college and lots and lots
> of breweries (Samual Adams, Harpoon, Mt. Wachusett, Mill City, Berkshire
> Brewing, Nashoba Valley Winery, Boston Beer Works, Lowell Beer Works,
> Gardner Ale House, Cape Ann Brewing, The Peoples Pint, Paper City Brewing,
> Buzzards Bay Brewing, and thats just the ones I know of).
>
> Depends on what you're into I guess.
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:42:19 -0600
> From: Craig 
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the
>country
> Message-ID: <20120426174219.4ecebcd6.diese...@pisquared.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis
>  wrote:
>
> Haha. Gotta love the Massholes.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 26, 2012, at 6:25 PM, Rich Thomas
>  wrote:
>
> That's Summuhvull, Gateway to Meffuh
>
> --R
>
> On 4/26/12 5:58 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
> Sounds nicer than Slumerville, MA.
>
> I take it the town names are Somerville and Medford.
>
> I also take it that those on the list don't really like Massachusetts.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Should anyone care, Craftsman tool "sale" this weekend

2012-04-27 Thread andrew strasfogel
Their quality works for me, but I only use metric tools and didn't see
any sets on sale that were purely metric.

On 4/27/12, Randy Bennell  wrote:
> On 27/04/2012 10:01 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:
>> I somehow signed up for Sears ads, I never see any in the paper any more.
>>
>> http://www.sears.com/shc/s/dcp_10153_12605_Tools+LPOS+Fri+to+Sat_LPOS+Fri+to+Sat%20?adCell=W21
>>
>>
>>
>> --R
>>
> I think we need to be wary of their tools anymore.
> I saw a small set advertised and thought I might grab them and leave
> them in one of the vehicles or boats.
> When I went to get them, they were such junk that I passed. I don't know
> what they are trying to do (apart from survive) but it is not going to
> endear them to their old customers.
> I sure would not order things online. I would want to see them up close
> and in person before I put any money out.
>
> Randy
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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-27 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Someone here's a big MA fan:) You forgot to mention Maine which was part of 
Massachusetts. Bowdoin College which was technically located in MA when it was 
founded in 1794 was named after the then governor of Massachusetts, James 
Bowdoin. And what about New Hampshire? I'm not sure if that was part of MA. 

Sent from my iPhon

On Apr 27, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

Theres a lot more to Massachusetts than greater Boston although I think many 
(most?) people here don't realize that.
Theres actually 3 states here (maybe 4), greater Boston is one and extends at 
least to 495, maybe all the way to Worcester. Then theres central MA which is 
arguably north central MA which includes a lot of the old mill cities like 
Lowell and Fitchburg (Fitchburg State University (was Fitchburg State College 
when I was there) is quite a good and affordable school, especially for nursing 
and video/film production))

Western MA is a whole different place too and extends north and west from 
Springfield more or less and includes some real hippie hangouts like Amherst 
(another college town) and Northampton.

It could be argued the Cape is yet another region and I might argue for the 
strip around RI being more like RI than the rest of MA.

Sure there are plenty of drunken idiots but aren't they everywhere?

This is one of those states with spread, we've got rockbound coast (north of 
Boston) beaches (the cape), mountains (what passes for mountains on the east 
coast anyway) and plains (Amherst area is a big bowl). Theres good class IV 
whitewater, good snowmobiling, surfing, sun worshiping, lots of higher 
education from Harvard to Mt. Wachusett community college and lots and lots of 
breweries (Samual Adams, Harpoon, Mt. Wachusett, Mill City, Berkshire Brewing, 
Nashoba Valley Winery, Boston Beer Works, Lowell Beer Works, Gardner Ale House, 
Cape Ann Brewing, The Peoples Pint, Paper City Brewing, Buzzards Bay Brewing, 
and thats just the ones I know of).

Depends on what you're into I guess.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:42:19 -0600
From: Craig 
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the
   country
Message-ID: <20120426174219.4ecebcd6.diese...@pisquared.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis
 wrote:

Haha. Gotta love the Massholes.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 26, 2012, at 6:25 PM, Rich Thomas
 wrote:

That's Summuhvull, Gateway to Meffuh

--R

On 4/26/12 5:58 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
Sounds nicer than Slumerville, MA.

I take it the town names are Somerville and Medford.

I also take it that those on the list don't really like Massachusetts.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-27 Thread Dan Penoff
What he said. After Northern CA, MA was our next choice for many of the reasons 
stated. Great place, even better if you get out of Boston (Bahston).

The Cape is nice, but if you drop your keys in Provincetown you have to kick 
them back to Boston before you can bend over to pick them up



Dan who still isn't sure how he ended up in FL

On Apr 27, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Theres a lot more to Massachusetts than greater Boston although I think many 
> (most?) people here don't realize that.
> Theres actually 3 states here (maybe 4), greater Boston is one and extends at 
> least to 495, maybe all the way to Worcester. Then theres central MA which is 
> arguably north central MA which includes a lot of the old mill cities like 
> Lowell and Fitchburg (Fitchburg State University (was Fitchburg State College 
> when I was there) is quite a good and affordable school, especially for 
> nursing and video/film production))
> 
> Western MA is a whole different place too and extends north and west from 
> Springfield more or less and includes some real hippie hangouts like Amherst 
> (another college town) and Northampton.
> 
> It could be argued the Cape is yet another region and I might argue for the 
> strip around RI being more like RI than the rest of MA.
> 
> Sure there are plenty of drunken idiots but aren't they everywhere?
> 
> This is one of those states with spread, we've got rockbound coast (north of 
> Boston) beaches (the cape), mountains (what passes for mountains on the east 
> coast anyway) and plains (Amherst area is a big bowl). Theres good class IV 
> whitewater, good snowmobiling, surfing, sun worshiping, lots of higher 
> education from Harvard to Mt. Wachusett community college and lots and lots 
> of breweries (Samual Adams, Harpoon, Mt. Wachusett, Mill City, Berkshire 
> Brewing, Nashoba Valley Winery, Boston Beer Works, Lowell Beer Works, Gardner 
> Ale House, Cape Ann Brewing, The Peoples Pint, Paper City Brewing, Buzzards 
> Bay Brewing, and thats just the ones I know of).
> 
> Depends on what you're into I guess.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:42:19 -0600
> From: Craig 
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the
>country
> Message-ID: <20120426174219.4ecebcd6.diese...@pisquared.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis
>  wrote:
> 
>> Haha. Gotta love the Massholes.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 26, 2012, at 6:25 PM, Rich Thomas
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That's Summuhvull, Gateway to Meffuh
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> On 4/26/12 5:58 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
>> Sounds nicer than Slumerville, MA.
> 
> I take it the town names are Somerville and Medford.
> 
> I also take it that those on the list don't really like Massachusetts.
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the country

2012-04-27 Thread Curt Raymond
Theres a lot more to Massachusetts than greater Boston although I think many 
(most?) people here don't realize that.
Theres actually 3 states here (maybe 4), greater Boston is one and extends at 
least to 495, maybe all the way to Worcester. Then theres central MA which is 
arguably north central MA which includes a lot of the old mill cities like 
Lowell and Fitchburg (Fitchburg State University (was Fitchburg State College 
when I was there) is quite a good and affordable school, especially for nursing 
and video/film production))

Western MA is a whole different place too and extends north and west from 
Springfield more or less and includes some real hippie hangouts like Amherst 
(another college town) and Northampton.

It could be argued the Cape is yet another region and I might argue for the 
strip around RI being more like RI than the rest of MA.

Sure there are plenty of drunken idiots but aren't they everywhere?

This is one of those states with spread, we've got rockbound coast (north of 
Boston) beaches (the cape), mountains (what passes for mountains on the east 
coast anyway) and plains (Amherst area is a big bowl). Theres good class IV 
whitewater, good snowmobiling, surfing, sun worshiping, lots of higher 
education from Harvard to Mt. Wachusett community college and lots and lots of 
breweries (Samual Adams, Harpoon, Mt. Wachusett, Mill City, Berkshire Brewing, 
Nashoba Valley Winery, Boston Beer Works, Lowell Beer Works, Gardner Ale House, 
Cape Ann Brewing, The Peoples Pint, Paper City Brewing, Buzzards Bay Brewing, 
and thats just the ones I know of).

Depends on what you're into I guess.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:42:19 -0600
From: Craig 
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What it's like to live in various parts of the
country
Message-ID: <20120426174219.4ecebcd6.diese...@pisquared.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis
 wrote:

> Haha. Gotta love the Massholes.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 26, 2012, at 6:25 PM, Rich Thomas
>  wrote:
> 
> That's Summuhvull, Gateway to Meffuh
> 
> --R
> 
> On 4/26/12 5:58 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
> Sounds nicer than Slumerville, MA.

I take it the town names are Somerville and Medford.

I also take it that those on the list don't really like Massachusetts.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread Randy Bennell

On 27/04/2012 12:30 AM, Fmiser wrote:

Randy Bennell wrote:
If MB intended you to do that, they wouldn't have bothered to
put in a clutch pedal.

Heh.  The clutch pedal is for starting moving from a full stop.
After that, it's just there to confuse the plebeians.

--Philip


With a good solid diesel, one shouldn't need the clutch to get going. 
Put it in gear and crank it up.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread Peter Hertzing
Well for several years mci and prevost (bus makers) and I'm sure big truck 
makers as well played with auto sticks where you just used a clutch to start 
then it was a direct drive automatic.  Got a little better mileage. And didn't 
require shifting.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 27, 2012, at 12:30 AM, Fmiser  wrote:

>> Randy Bennell wrote:
> 
>> If MB intended you to do that, they wouldn't have bothered to
>> put in a clutch pedal.
> 
> Heh.  The clutch pedal is for starting moving from a full stop.
> After that, it's just there to confuse the plebeians.
> 
> --Philip
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Re: [MBZ] Should anyone care, Craftsman tool "sale" this weekend

2012-04-27 Thread Randy Bennell

On 27/04/2012 10:01 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:

I somehow signed up for Sears ads, I never see any in the paper any more.

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/dcp_10153_12605_Tools+LPOS+Fri+to+Sat_LPOS+Fri+to+Sat%20?adCell=W21 



--R


I think we need to be wary of their tools anymore.
I saw a small set advertised and thought I might grab them and leave 
them in one of the vehicles or boats.
When I went to get them, they were such junk that I passed. I don't know 
what they are trying to do (apart from survive) but it is not going to 
endear them to their old customers.
I sure would not order things online. I would want to see them up close 
and in person before I put any money out.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Medical Records: was Light Reading of crash data

2012-04-27 Thread G Mann
I second that. Motion carries. [in "committee speak" nothing further will
be heard ;)) ]

"We the People" have been out shouted by "We the Committee", who have been
given voice by "we're the news". Thus the perception that the committee
rules.  They do not.  We the People vote with our wallets, not our mouths,
and the current economy is exactly that, a giant loss for the committee, a
vote of "no confidence", if you will.

The Fat Lady is in her dressing room, waiting for her cue to take the stage
and sing... soon.

Grant...

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 5:14 AM,  wrote:

> Allan,
> The AMA does not represent the majority of doctors, that's why our current
> president went to them for support on his healthcare bill...to give us the
> taxpayers the appearance that the medical community supported this
> legislation. Nor do most CPA's support keeping the tax code
> complicated...it's a nightmare for them keeping current with new tax laws,
> etc. Nor do most older people support the AARP because of its strange views
> of what will help the elderly. Unfortunately in our USA, a group gets a lot
> of money and then gets publicity because news reporters are too lazy to dig
> for a story and then they get hyped as "representing" a particular segment
> of society. Good doctors don't want to repeat unnecessary tests because
> they know the potential harm of certain tests, but then they also have that
> fine line of being sued for not running a test to help diagnose a patient.
> With the help of political correctness and letting the children run the
> country, we are back to the 60's. I for one did not care for the 60's. And
> I don't care much for what I've seen so far in the 2000's. To me, groups
> and organizations are much like committees.
> Best Wishes,
>
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
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> www.rubylane.com/shops/sna (antique)
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Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or floating gas?

2012-04-27 Thread Curt Raymond
A friend of ours is visiting next week and I'd offered up the '78 240D should 
she need it but I did ask "can you drive a 3 pedal car?" she responded (wisely 
I think) "No, I can barely drive a 2 pedal car!"

Fortunately she lives in the city (Chicago) and barely needs to drive at all.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 00:30:37 -0500
From: Fmiser 
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> Randy Bennell wrote:

> If MB intended you to do that, they wouldn't have bothered to
> put in a clutch pedal.

Heh.  The clutch pedal is for starting moving from a full stop.
After that, it's just there to confuse the plebeians.

--Philip

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[MBZ] Should anyone care, Craftsman tool "sale" this weekend

2012-04-27 Thread Rich Thomas

I somehow signed up for Sears ads, I never see any in the paper any more.

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/dcp_10153_12605_Tools+LPOS+Fri+to+Sat_LPOS+Fri+to+Sat%20?adCell=W21

--R

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Medical Records: was Light Reading of crash data

2012-04-27 Thread rogerhga
Allan, 
The AMA does not represent the majority of doctors, that's why our current 
president went to them for support on his healthcare bill...to give us the 
taxpayers the appearance that the medical community supported this legislation. 
Nor do most CPA's support keeping the tax code complicated...it's a nightmare 
for them keeping current with new tax laws, etc. Nor do most older people 
support the AARP because of its strange views of what will help the elderly. 
Unfortunately in our USA, a group gets a lot of money and then gets publicity 
because news reporters are too lazy to dig for a story and then they get hyped 
as "representing" a particular segment of society. Good doctors don't want to 
repeat unnecessary tests because they know the potential harm of certain tests, 
but then they also have that fine line of being sued for not running a test to 
help diagnose a patient. 
With the help of political correctness and letting the children run the 
country, we are back to the 60's. I for one did not care for the 60's. And I 
don't care much for what I've seen so far in the 2000's. To me, groups and 
organizations are much like committees. 
Best Wishes, 

Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) 
www.rubylane.com/shops/sna (antique) 

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