Re: [MBZ] lost Bilstein Gas Pressure Shock Absorbers now found

[Hendrik and fay]

There was an auction on fleabay starting at 129 with no takers, 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-C123-REAR-SHOCKS-BILSTEIN-1977-1985-230-240D-280-300D-300CD-SET-/380620558073?nma=true&si=7lj3ZOtmWEfcZsf5N5BNqhMWazE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

So there are worth less than that.

Hendrik
who also sometimes can't find something and it drives him nuts

On 30/04/13 13:50, Dieselhead wrote:

Rear. http://www.shockwarehouse.com/site/product.cfm?id=14336
Not worth $150 as the above, first place I looked at, will sell a new 
pair for $126.

New part number is in the link above.
the rubber will deteriorate, however the normal life in use is about 
20 years, so there should be miles left in them.



Some years ago, I purchased a new set of Bilstein shocks for the 82 
240D sedan - not sure if front or rear, but I believe the rear. Part 
number B46-0713-HO. When it was time to install them, I could not 
find where I left them even after a diligent search. So I purchased 
and installed KYB. (Do I need to be remorseful about that?). Now I 
found the Bilsteins (bottom of a box) and have no further need for them.

1. Do they deteriorate with age if unused in the original carton?
2. Someone know their approximate value? I saw an Ebay set of two for 
about $150 with shipping.

3. Is there a new number for this part?
I'd be interested in an informed opinion.

Jerry
82 240D




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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering owners

[Brian Toscano]

Axes are used in some parts of the world.

On Monday, April 29, 2013, Greg Fiorentino wrote:

> I worked with a guy in Portland whose brother killed their dad with a
> hammer.  Another sad case of out-of-control mental illness.  We only read
> of
> the necessity to stop gun violence...as if violence is only half a word.
> Somehow I think that if we were to be able to address the root causes of
> violence it would reduce violence using ALL instruments.  Getting violent
> criminals off the streets would be a good start.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com ] On
> Behalf Of Randy
> Bennell
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:13 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering owners
>
> On 29/04/2013 1:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> > Makes up in length/long-winded graphic violence what it lacks in huimor.
> >
> > BTW, how many hammer-committed homicides were there last year vs. gun
> > homicides?
> >
> >
>
> We had one locally. A fellow did his wife in with a hammer.
> Don't know if he had a gun.
>
> Randy
>
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Re: [MBZ] Bilstein Gas Pressure Shock Absorbers

[Dieselhead]

Rear.  http://www.shockwarehouse.com/site/product.cfm?id=14336
Not worth $150 as the above, first place I looked at, will sell a new 
pair for $126.

New part number is in the link above.
the rubber will deteriorate, however the normal life in use is about 
20 years, so there should be miles left in them.



Some years ago, I purchased a new set of Bilstein shocks for the 82 
240D sedan - not sure if front or rear, but I believe the rear. Part 
number B46-0713-HO. When it was time to install them, I could not 
find where I left them even after a diligent search. So I purchased 
and installed KYB. (Do I need to be remorseful about that?). Now I 
found the Bilsteins (bottom of a box) and have no further need for 
them.

1. Do they deteriorate with age if unused in the original carton?
2. Someone know their approximate value? I saw an Ebay set of two 
for about $150 with shipping.

3. Is there a new number for this part?
I'd be interested in an informed opinion.

Jerry
82 240D


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[MBZ] Bilstein Gas Pressure Shock Absorbers

[Jerry Herrman]

Some years ago, I purchased a new set of Bilstein shocks for the 82 240D sedan 
- not sure if front or rear, but I believe the rear. Part number B46-0713-HO. 
When it was time to install them, I could not find where I left them even after 
a diligent search. So I purchased and installed KYB. (Do I need to be 
remorseful about that?). Now I found the Bilsteins (bottom of a box) and have 
no further need for them.
1. Do they deteriorate with age if unused in the original carton?
2. Someone know their approximate value? I saw an Ebay set of two for about 
$150 with shipping.
3. Is there a new number for this part?
I'd be interested in an informed opinion.

Jerry
82 240D


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Re: [MBZ] CL photo retard of the month

[Chris James]

It's so small, I can't even tell if it's a Mercedes! Why even bother?


On 4/29/2013 11:20 PM, clay wrote:

http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/3762378138.html

Really?  REALLY?




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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering owners

[Greg Fiorentino]

I worked with a guy in Portland whose brother killed their dad with a
hammer.  Another sad case of out-of-control mental illness.  We only read of
the necessity to stop gun violence...as if violence is only half a word.
Somehow I think that if we were to be able to address the root causes of
violence it would reduce violence using ALL instruments.  Getting violent
criminals off the streets would be a good start.

Greg

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Bennell
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering owners

On 29/04/2013 1:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> Makes up in length/long-winded graphic violence what it lacks in huimor.
>
> BTW, how many hammer-committed homicides were there last year vs. gun 
> homicides?
>
>

We had one locally. A fellow did his wife in with a hammer.
Don't know if he had a gun.

Randy

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[MBZ] CL photo retard of the month

[clay]

http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/3762378138.html

Really?  REALLY?

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Re: [MBZ] '84 Jag and '91 300SL

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Hardy har har.  Ex spouse.  What else.


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

> His Ex-fire-arms instructor.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
>
> Rich Thomas  wrote:
>
> >Your Ex what?
> >
> >--R (sent from my miniPad)
> >
> >On Apr 29, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> >wrote:
> >
> >Not such a great deal on the Jag.  My Ex sold her cosmetically perfect
> >1984
> >XJ6 with very low miles (under 50K) a few years back for $3200.
> >
> >
> >
> >On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Gerry Archer
> >wrote:
> >
> >> At the local Indy:
> >>
> >> '84 xj6 jag  $3K
> >>
> >> '91 300SL  NADA range 8K to 12K.  Call shop at  352-795-7000 for
> >price.
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[MBZ] OT - Router Assistance

[Dan Penoff]

Anyone with static routing experience please drop me a note off list - I have 
an issue with trying to tie two different subnets together and it's getting 
beyond my level of experience.  Probably something simple, I'm sure..

TIA,

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] '84 Jag and '91 300SL

[Max Dillon]

His Ex-fire-arms instructor.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Rich Thomas  wrote:

>Your Ex what?
>
>--R (sent from my miniPad)
>
>On Apr 29, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
>wrote:
>
>Not such a great deal on the Jag.  My Ex sold her cosmetically perfect
>1984
>XJ6 with very low miles (under 50K) a few years back for $3200.
>
>
>
>On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Gerry Archer
>wrote:
>
>> At the local Indy:
>> 
>> '84 xj6 jag  $3K
>> 
>> '91 300SL  NADA range 8K to 12K.  Call shop at  352-795-7000 for
>price.
>> In the dark with a flashlight, looks like new car inside and out.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] '84 Jag and '91 300SL

[Rich Thomas]

Your Ex what?

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Apr 29, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:

Not such a great deal on the Jag.  My Ex sold her cosmetically perfect 1984
XJ6 with very low miles (under 50K) a few years back for $3200.



On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Gerry Archer wrote:

> At the local Indy:
> 
> '84 xj6 jag  $3K
> 
> '91 300SL  NADA range 8K to 12K.  Call shop at  352-795-7000 for price.
> In the dark with a flashlight, looks like new car inside and out.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering owners

[dseretakis]

A classmate of mine in college who was an extremely gifted artist killed his 
mother with a hammer over one of the breaks.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 29, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> When I was in college a friend inadvisedly took an apartment in a very bad 
> part of town. Not long after moving in a guy was killed by a hammer wielding 
> assailant in the apartment next door. Apparently it took quite awhile and was 
> quite noisy. My friend of course called the constabulary who took their sweet 
> time in arriving as most of the occupants of the apartment building were 
> generally considered to be scum and the hammer "saved a bullet".
> 
> The police advised my friend to move out at once, my friend thought that idea 
> was a good'un. Landlord didn't even mind him breaking the lease.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:13:03 -0500
> From: Randy Bennell 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering
>owners
> Message-ID: <517ec63f.4030...@bennell.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> On 29/04/2013 1:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>> Makes up in length/long-winded graphic violence what it lacks in huimor.
>> 
>> BTW, how many hammer-committed homicides were there last year vs. gun
>> homicides?
> 
> We had one locally. A fellow did his wife in with a hammer.
> Don't know if he had a gun.
> 
> Randy
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering owners

[Curt Raymond]

When I was in college a friend inadvisedly took an apartment in a very bad part 
of town. Not long after moving in a guy was killed by a hammer wielding 
assailant in the apartment next door. Apparently it took quite awhile and was 
quite noisy. My friend of course called the constabulary who took their sweet 
time in arriving as most of the occupants of the apartment building were 
generally considered to be scum and the hammer "saved a bullet".

The police advised my friend to move out at once, my friend thought that idea 
was a good'un. Landlord didn't even mind him breaking the lease.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:13:03 -0500
From: Randy Bennell 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering
owners
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

On 29/04/2013 1:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> Makes up in length/long-winded graphic violence what it lacks in huimor.
>
> BTW, how many hammer-committed homicides were there last year vs. gun
> homicides?
>
>

We had one locally. A fellow did his wife in with a hammer.
Don't know if he had a gun.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Topsider Oil removal

[Larry T]

I have tried a 5 gal plastic gas jug also - collapsed like a cheap suit...

LarryT

On 4/26/2013 10:11 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:
I have a plastic gas "can I put a barb fitting in the vent hole for 
the extraction hose and the fill/pour hole is just right to jam the 
vac hose into.  Turn on the vac and it sorta collapses (the "Visual 
Vacuum Indicator") while sucking out the oil.


The barb cost a buck, the hose was a buck, I had the old gas can, so 
the "$2 oil sucker"


You might want to find an old metal tank like propane or refrigerant 
or helium but then you would not have the VVI feature.


--R


On 4/26/13 10:01 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
I have been thinking of putting a five gallon paint bucket to use as 
an extraction unit - here's what I was thinking - please offer any 
critiques:


Five gallon paint bucket.

Drill a hole and thread a hose barb fitting into the lid opposite the 
collapsible "spigot".  Put a bushing on the inside of the lid on the 
threads that project from the hose barb fitting, and thread on a 
piece of 1/2" PVC or something similar that would extend to near the 
bottom of the bucket.  This would be the dip tube where the oil would 
come out into the bucket.


Use an adapter for my shop vac to fit on to the spigot to provide the 
vacuum.


Attach the appropriate sized tubing to the hose barb fitting to 
insert into the dipstick tube on the car.


Seems like this would work just fine, and the dip tube would minimize 
the amount of oil that might possibly get drawn into the shop vac.


Thoughts?

Grant - a question about your brake system fill/flush - can you "back 
feed" ABS braking systems?


Dan


On Apr 26, 2013, at 9:30 AM, Larry T wrote:

That sure sounds painless!  My fuel pump is a diaphragm type so 
hopefully it will work fine.  I am recovering from knee surgery so 
getting down and getting back up are pretty difficult for me at this 
point but your method is so simple I can probably supervise my wife 
and son!


I mentioned using your method on my MGB's clutch system - I plan to 
share your method with the MGB forum I'm on as there's huge 
frustration when trying to bleed the clutch because the bleeder is 
on the bottom of the slave cylinder and pointed downward making 
bleeding extremely difficult.  I suspect there are clutch systems 
that never get bled completely.


Take care --
Larry


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz Involvement in Boston Event - M-BTechnology atWork!

[WILTON]

Give police, MB and the ML's owner big ATTABOY's!!!

Wilton

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Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 8:08 PM
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atWork!





- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Harruff" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 6:28 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz Involvement in Boston Event - M-B Technology 
atWork!




Interesting use of newer technology!  Mercedes-Benz assists in finding
Boston Suspects/Car Jackers.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130429/CARNEWS/130429818

Tom Harruff
1985 300D 156K mi (Diesel Dolly - Gone after 25 years but not forgotton)
1985 500SEL 56K mi (No Name - Gone before any big costs)
1956 190SL 67K mi (Unfinished Restoration - gone to California)
1983 300SD 137K mi (Dallas - the Big D)
1994 C280 99K mi (Jet Car - Wife's Car)
Naples, FL




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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz Involvement in Boston Event - M-B Technology atWork!

[WILTON]

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Harruff" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 6:28 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz Involvement in Boston Event - M-B Technology 
atWork!




Interesting use of newer technology!  Mercedes-Benz assists in finding
Boston Suspects/Car Jackers.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130429/CARNEWS/130429818

Tom Harruff
1985 300D 156K mi (Diesel Dolly - Gone after 25 years but not forgotton)
1985 500SEL 56K mi (No Name - Gone before any big costs)
1956 190SL 67K mi (Unfinished Restoration - gone to California)
1983 300SD 137K mi (Dallas - the Big D)
1994 C280 99K mi (Jet Car - Wife's Car)
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[MBZ] Mercedes-Benz Involvement in Boston Event - M-B Technology at Work!

[Tom Harruff]

Interesting use of newer technology!  Mercedes-Benz assists in finding
Boston Suspects/Car Jackers.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130429/CARNEWS/130429818 

Tom Harruff
1985 300D 156K mi (Diesel Dolly - Gone after 25 years but not forgotton)
1985 500SEL 56K mi (No Name - Gone before any big costs)
1956 190SL 67K mi (Unfinished Restoration - gone to California)
1983 300SD 137K mi (Dallas - the Big D)
1994 C280 99K mi (Jet Car - Wife's Car)
Naples, FL




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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering owners

[Randy Bennell]

So, watching hockey can sure get a guy revved up eh?

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering owners

[Randy Bennell]

"A West Kildonan man convicted of the brutal murder of his wife three 
years ago was sentenced to life in prison with no eligibility for parole 
for 10 years.


Justice Karen Simonsen said she was satisfied Miloslav Kapsik, 64, was 
suffering from some degree of mental illness when he killed his wife and 
should be considered for parole after 10 years.


Crown prosecutor Jennifer Mann had argued Kapsik should serve 14 years 
before being eligible for parole.


Defence counsel Greg Brodsky had argued unsuccessfully during trial in 
March the evidence of two forensic psychiatrists concluded he should be 
found not criminally responsible and be sent to a secure psychiatric 
facility.


Kapsik and his wife, Ludmila, then 59, were watching a Saturday-night 
hockey game in their Jefferson Avenue apartment in late March 2010, when 
he attacked her with a hammer, striking her 40 times in the arms and 
hands and 60 to 70 times in the head, chasing her around their apartment 
as she tried to fend off the blows.


After the attack, Kapsik cleaned himself up and then called 911 and 
waited for police.


Kapsik had no explanation for the attack and did not testify at trial 
but court was told he had been suffering from mental illness and hearing 
voices.


The couple had been married for 36 years and there was no history of 
abuse or violence. The couple have no children.


-- staff

Republished from the Winnipeg Free Press print edition April 18, 2013 A8"


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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering owners

[Randy Bennell]

On 29/04/2013 2:37 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Randy Bennell wrote:


We had one locally. A fellow did his wife in with a hammer.
Don't know if he had a gun.


We had one locally, a long time ago, where the wife did the husband in 
with a gas can and a lighter while he slept. Farrah Fawcett starred in 
a movie about her. She was found not guilty due to battered women's 
syndrome, establishing a new body of case law. He beat her, so she 
waited for him to pass out and made BBQ husband, burning the entire 
house in the process.


A year after Mrs. Hughes' non-conviction, another abused spouse in 
Michigan shot her man while he was beating her instead of waiting for 
him to go to sleep. She was convicted. I always wondered if it was 
because she had too much melanin or because she used an evil scary 
gun. I do seem to recall that her attorney tried to use the Hughes 
defense.


Mitch.

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I would guess that each case turned on its facts and that the woman who 
lit her husband on fire had more and perhaps better evidence of her long 
term suffering and mental state when she did it.


On the other hand she may have just encountered a more sympathetic jury.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering owners

[Mitch Haley]

Randy Bennell wrote:


We had one locally. A fellow did his wife in with a hammer.
Don't know if he had a gun.


We had one locally, a long time ago, where the wife did the husband in with a 
gas can and a lighter while he slept. Farrah Fawcett starred in a movie about 
her. She was found not guilty due to battered women's syndrome, establishing a 
new body of case law. He beat her, so she waited for him to pass out and made 
BBQ husband, burning the entire house in the process.


A year after Mrs. Hughes' non-conviction, another abused spouse in Michigan shot 
her man while he was beating her instead of waiting for him to go to sleep. She 
was convicted. I always wondered if it was because she had too much melanin or 
because she used an evil scary gun. I do seem to recall that her attorney tried 
to use the Hughes defense.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering owners

[Randy Bennell]

On 29/04/2013 1:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Makes up in length/long-winded graphic violence what it lacks in huimor.

BTW, how many hammer-committed homicides were there last year vs. gun
homicides?




We had one locally. A fellow did his wife in with a hammer.
Don't know if he had a gun.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Pinstripes WAS:123 coupe trivia

[Dieselhead]

yuk




The ones on my 90 300D 2.5t are taped on.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering owners

[Dieselhead]

Makes up in length/long-winded graphic violence what it lacks in huimor.

BTW, how many hammer-committed homicides were there last year vs. gun
homicides?


Don't know.  I thought the fact that the hammer attacker bled to 
death from being cut up was somehow just.BTW, I borrowed all that 
long winded blather from some anti gun freak just to illustrate the 
stupidity of it all.  The point is that since Cain and Able, murder 
happens.  The weapon matters little.  THe jawbone of an ass, or a 
sling or a wrench or  whatever.  people will grab whatever they 
find handy.


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: How I spent my Saturday

[Dieselhead]

No.  Have not decided what to do with it yet.  Runs great and 
suspension is tight.  If it was not rusty it might be a great car. 
That's why I am thinking about running it for the summer.  Could 
prove to be "rusty but trusty"





Is the junker SDL one that you've offered for sale?
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Re: [MBZ] OT Gun Ownership Fwd: A Tale of Tale of Two Cities

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Furthermore, aren't there plenty of gunshops just outside Chicago's city
limits?

On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 7:36 PM, John Reames  wrote:

> Correlation does not imply causation...
>
> --
> John W Reames
> jream...@verizon.net
> Home: +14106646986
> Mobile: +14437915905
>
> On Apr 28, 2013, at 9:52, Kristin Gilmore 
> wrote:
>
> >  I received this from a friend.  Haven't checked the statistics but
> they look about right.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > A Tale of Two Cities
> >
> >
> >
> >   Chicago, IL
> >
> >
> >
> >   Houston, TX
> >
> >   Population
> >
> >
> >
> >   2.7 million
> >
> >
> >
> >   2.15 million
> >
> >   Median HH Income
> >
> >
> >
> >   $38,600
> >
> >
> >
> >   $37,000
> >
> >   % African-American
> >
> >
> >
> >   38.9%
> >
> >
> >
> >   24%
> >
> >   % Hispanic
> >
> >
> >
> >   29.9%
> >
> >
> >
> >   44%
> >
> >   % Asian
> >
> >
> >
> >   5.5%
> >
> >
> >
> >   6%
> >
> >   % Non-Hispanic White
> >
> >
> >
> >   38.7%
> >
> >
> >
> >   26%
> >
> >   Pretty similar until you compare the following:
> >
> >
> >
> >   Chicago, IL
> >
> >
> >
> >   Houston, TX
> >
> >   /Concealed Carry/gun law
> >
> >
> >
> >   no
> >
> >
> >
> >   yes
> >
> >   # of Gun Stores
> >
> >
> >
> >   0
> >
> >
> >
> >   84 - Dedicated gun stores plus 1500 - legal places to buy
> >   guns- Walmart, K-mart, sporting goods, etc.
> >
> >   Homicides, 2012
> >
> >
> >
> >   806
> >
> >
> >
> >   207
> >
> >   Homicides per 100K
> >
> >
> >
> >   28.4
> >
> >
> >
> >   9.6
> >
> >   Avg. January high temperature -- (F)
> >
> >
> >
> >   31°
> >
> >
> >
> >   63°
> >
> >   Conclusion: Cold weather causes murder.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV
> >
> >  A close observation of nature cannot help but yield a poetic
> sensibility.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] '84 Jag and '91 300SL

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Not such a great deal on the Jag.  My Ex sold her cosmetically perfect 1984
XJ6 with very low miles (under 50K) a few years back for $3200.



On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Gerry Archer wrote:

> At the local Indy:
>
> '84 xj6 jag  $3K
>
> '91 300SL  NADA range 8K to 12K.  Call shop at  352-795-7000 for price.
> In the dark with a flashlight, looks like new car inside and out.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The case for banning hammers and registering owners

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Makes up in length/long-winded graphic violence what it lacks in huimor.

BTW, how many hammer-committed homicides were there last year vs. gun
homicides?

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> A local guy attacked his girlfriend/shackup with a hammer a couple days
> ago.  We must ban hammers!  Hammers kill.  If we can save just one
> child...it will all be worth it.  Here is the case for hammer control:
>
>
> A single consumer product holds our nation hostage: the hammer. We live
> our lives in the shadow of the unparalleled lethality of these easily
> concealed hammers. This permanent state of fear has become so accepted that
> we rarely even acknowledge it.
> where hammers are routinely portrayed as effective self-defense tools
> posing little risk to the user. Although these claims are not borne out by
> the facts, they live on.
> At the same time, hammer violence itself is sanitized by the media. The
> damage inflicted on a human being by a hammer head entering the body is
> uniquely traumatic. An August 2012 article in the Commonwealth Medical
> Journal offered this dry description of the forces at work when a hammer
> enters human flesh: "As a hammer passes along its track in the body, it
> lacerates and damages tissues by doing work on them-that is, by
> transferring to the tissues the kinetic energy it is carrying. An equal and
> opposite amount of work is done on the hammer by the tissues. Where along
> the track this work is done is determined, in part, by the construction of
> the hammer." But this clinical description cannot convey the destructive
> capacity of a single hammer. A 2010 Los Angeles Blather  article describing
> the effect of two hits from a 16 oz. claw hammer offers a more complete
> picture:
> The first hammer strike, went into his chest angling down. It fractured
> the fifth rib on the way in, bored through both lobes of the left lung, and
> fractured the seventh rib on the way.
> Not always a fatal woundThe killer was the second hit. It hit the bone
> and cartilage of the sternum. That flattened a little, increasing its
> diameter and widening the wound channel it punched through the left
> ventricle chamberThe hammer left the heart, and went into the left
> lung.   In its passage, the hammer stretched and displaced for milliseconds
> the heart muscles, valves and chambers, forming what trauma surgeons know
> as the `temporary cavity.' It created a temporary space the size of a
> baseball
> Not surprisingly, the injuries stemming from the wound ballistics
> described above bear little resemblance to the hammer violence portrayed on
> television and in the movies. Rarely, if ever, are viewers exposed to the
> physical trauma of real-life hammer victims: disfiguring injury and
> long-term disability.
> Fear, physical pain, and death are just part of the price Americans pay
> for the easy access of hammers.
> This is because the hammer bought for Do-it yourself projects is far more
> likely to be used against the owner or someone known to the owner-in a
> homicide (usually as the result of an argument), a suicide, or an
> unintentional strike than in legitimate home improvement . Contrary to
> popular perception, most hammer deaths are not crime related. Most of
> 1997's estimated hammer death toll of 21,311 people were either suicides or
> homicides resulting from arguments between people who knew one another. In
> fact, it is estimated that less than 7.5 percent of all hammer deaths are
> felony-related. According to 1997 federal government statistics, for every
> time a citizen used a hammer to justifiably kill a stranger in
> self-defense, an estimated 109 lives were lost in hammer homicides,
> suicides, and unintentional hammer strikes.
> America's hammer-control movement knows that the most effective approach
> to reducing hammer death and injury would be to ban these weapons. Yet few
> today are willing to publicly support such a measure. From the 1960s to the
> early 1980s, a national hammer ban was an accepted policy goal that
> hammer-control advocates supported and defended. Yet, by the late 1980s and
> early 1990s, most of America's hammer control movement, bowing to
> "political reality," had moved away from the issue. Buffeted by the winds
> of opinion polls, the guiding principal became not what would work most
> effectively, but what would sell to the general public most easily. Fearful
> of becoming enmeshed in the hammer lobby's "slippery slope" argument (that
> any hammer control, no matter how limited, is the first step toward total
> hammer confiscation), many actively voiced their opposition to a hammer
> ban, warning that ban proponents would marginalize the entire movement.
> They could offer no proof of this claim-yet the argument took hold.
> What might have been defended as a short-term political strategy in the
> 1980s makes little sense in the new millennium. The 1990s reshaped the way
> Americans vie

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: How I spent my Saturday

[WILTON]

- Original Message - 
From: "Max Dillon" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: How I spent my Saturday



Yes, probably saved about $1500, but did spend a fair amount of time.

I'm still not happy with it, plan to replace the rubber bits and clamp on 
the muffler support bracket attached to the transmission.  Improving 
nevertheless.

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:


Sounds like a "win" to me!





Original email with pics waiting for list mom to get to work.

Below is for my '95 E300.
--
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Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20



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Re: [MBZ] APPROACHING MY TWILIGHT YEARS

[clay]

First, I would like to thank all of you for your kind thoughts.  They do help.

That Dad was able to pass as rapidly and serenely as it seemed is a good thing. 
 I would not wish anything but a quick death upon any but the most heinous of 
people.  My father was a tough bird and fought hard to remain above ground no 
matter what insults his body gave him.  When the quality of life no longer 
merited that resolve, it was good that letting go allowed him to find swift 
peace.

After looking into just what was used for him, I think it was much like having 
dental surgery, colonoscopy, or pre-surgical medication.  He was far from 
alert, but able to be there mentally in some manner.  Not with it enough that 
he would have remembered, had he survived.  Enough morphine to keep the agony 
at bay, and tranquil so that what was happening was not exceedingly disturbing 
for him.  Still, a less than elegant departure.

clay

On Apr 28, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Gerry Archer wrote:

> From: "clay" 
>> Educated in China, she is in her late 30's and specializes in breast cancer. 
>>  Head of that department at a small rural health care shop, as well as at 
>> the local Sisters of Providence hospital.  That is how Dad got hooked up 
>> with her.  The gastric/geriatric onc was headed out of town for three weeks 
>> after he diagnosed dad.  Dame onc waited to get Dad in for chemo, then 
>> forgot to schedule patient visit for four months.
>> Dad had extensive comorbidity, from melanoma, prostate, squameous cell, as 
>> well as congestive heart failure, TIA, three bypasses, long term kidney 
>> stone history.  Gastro shop noted polyp in 2009, but did not mention it 
>> would need treatment, so in 2012 it had gone malignant.  Metastasized to 
>> liver and in the blood by then.
>> Dame onc did not follow AAOS guidelines for treatment of geriatric patients 
>> by using nuetrafil boosters, adjusting dosage to account for patient age for 
>> chemo, noted, but did nothing about the edema that got worse until pleural 
>> effusion took out his lungs over five months.  Pretty much just a technician 
>> following some standardized set of procedures more relevant to healthy young 
>> woman breast cancer than inoperable gastric in an octogenarian with 
>> extensive comorbidity.  She did not even try to coordinate care with his 
>> other physicians until my attorney contacted the head of oncology to inquire 
>> about the slap dash methodology.  That was three weeks ago.
>> Dad was not into making a fuss, so I was told to let it go.  This is what I 
>> expect will be the norm under oblama-we-don't-care.
>> clay
> 
> You may be right, Clay, the U.S. brings in foreign trained doctors instead of 
> training enough of its own.  Some are excellent but others are not.
> 
> Losing someone we love is never easy, but in your fathers case; with all his 
> problems; it may have been for the best.  Hopefully they gave him enough 
> narcotics to ease his passing.
> Gerry
>> 
>> On Apr 28, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Gerry Archer wrote:
>> 
>>> Too bad, Clay.  What did the onco do or not do?
>>> Gerry
>>> 
>>> From: "Dan Penoff" 
 My condolences.  That sucks.
 Dan
 
 On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:32 PM, clay  wrote:
 
> I appreciate the sentiment.  I just spent last night holding my father's
> hand while he passed away.  One long and disappointing event.  Medical
> stupidity did him in.  Oncologist could not get her head out of her rear
> long enough to think through how geriatric patient might be different than
> some 40 year old dame with boob cancer.
> 
> clay
> 
> 
> On Apr 25, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Gerry Archer wrote:
> 
> >> From a friend:
> >>
> >> As I approach my twilight years, I am struck by the inevitability >> 
> >> that
> the party must end. And one clear, cold morning after I'm gone, my spouse
> will awaken in the warmth of our bedroom and be struck with the pain of
> learning that sometimes there isn't "anymore."
> >> No more hugs, no more special moments to celebrate together, no more
> phone calls just to chat, no more "just one minute."
> >> Sometimes, what we care about the most gets all used up and goes >> 
> >> away,
> never to return before we can say goodbye, or say "I love you."
> >> So while we have it, its best we love it, care for it, fix it when >>  
> >> >> it's
> broken and heal it when it's sick.
> >> This is true for marriage.And old cars, and children with bad
> report cards, and dogs with bad hips, and aging parents and grandparents.
> We keep them because they are worth it, because we are worth it.
> >> Some things we keep -- like a best friend who moved away or a son in
> law after divorce. There are just some things that make us happy, no 
> matter
> what.
> >> Life is important, like people we know who are special. And so, we >>  
> >> >> keep
> them close!
> >> Suppose

[MBZ] NO pinstripes on the CD

[Dwight Giles]

The oracles have spoken. Thanks to the wisdom of this  list and of SWMBO, I
will enjoy the new paint job with no visual interruptions.



Dwight



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Re: [MBZ] Pinstripes WAS:123 coupe trivia

[Dwight Giles]

The ones on my 90 300D 2.5t are taped on.


On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

> You can go ahead and bet the farm on it.  They are taped in place.
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Curt Raymond 
> wrote:
>
> > I wouldn't bet the farm on it but I'm reasonably sure both my 240Ds have
> > had sticker or tape type pinstripes...
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 21:40:08 -0500
> > From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Subject: [MBZ] Pinstripes WAS:123 coupe trivia
> > Message-ID: 
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed"
> >
> > All the "original" (dealer added) pinstripes i've
> > seen on MBs were painted.  THe quality varies.  I
> > have seen some with a "maker's mark"
> >
> > I can take em or leave em.
> >
> > Factory pinstripes were on BMW /2 and /5 and some
> > /6 motorsickles.  My /5 was factory silver with
> > blue stripes.  Being a bit of a throwback, I
> > thought R series cycles should be schwarz/wei? so
> > I got the tanks and fenders painted with black
> > imron, then asked around for someone who could
> > pinstripe by hand.
> >
> > I found a guy, took the tank and fenders to him
> > and waited.  The finished product was a real work
> > of art.
> >
> > The stripes were better than factory and each
> > side of the tank has a white vine with
> > inscription.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: How I spent my Saturday

[Max Dillon]

Is the junker SDL one that you've offered for sale? 
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

>We had beautiful weather.  One nice day of spring between winter and 
>summer. I fired up the junker SDL after sitting all winter.  I am 
>thinking of using it as summer wheels.  It fired right up.  needs 
>orings in the DV unions. and glow plugs.  Decided not to tackle that 
>since I don't have a sample oring.  Ordered int manifold gasket from 
>Q jr. along with some other stuff.
>
>Then it was off to the 240D land.  The white 80 has been sitting a 
>year and a half.  I forgot it had a battery in it.  I figured I'd try 
>the battery.  It fired right up!  Still had sunflower power (bioD) in 
>it so it smells different.  Backed it up so I could get to the 
>wheels, and took off the rotten tars, bought 4 new uns, and had time 
>to get them back on the car.
>
>Bought a battery for the blue 240D, but did not try to fire it up 
>yet.  I need to get it going and then fire up the H.  Even though I 
>rebuilt the carb on the H 3 years ago, I think it is going to need 
>work.  It needs a needle and probably a seat for the idle.  It never 
>has idled right.  A project fer another day.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: How I spent my Saturday

[Max Dillon]

Yes, probably saved about $1500, but did spend a fair amount of time.

I'm still not happy with it, plan to replace the rubber bits and clamp on the 
muffler support bracket attached to the transmission.  Improving nevertheless.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Sounds like a "win" to me!
>
>
>
>
>>Original email with pics waiting for list mom to get to work.
>>
>>Below is for my '95 E300.
>>--
>>Max Dillon
>>Charleston SC
>>'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: How I spent my Saturday

[Dieselhead]

We had beautiful weather.  One nice day of spring between winter and 
summer. I fired up the junker SDL after sitting all winter.  I am 
thinking of using it as summer wheels.  It fired right up.  needs 
orings in the DV unions. and glow plugs.  Decided not to tackle that 
since I don't have a sample oring.  Ordered int manifold gasket from 
Q jr. along with some other stuff.


Then it was off to the 240D land.  The white 80 has been sitting a 
year and a half.  I forgot it had a battery in it.  I figured I'd try 
the battery.  It fired right up!  Still had sunflower power (bioD) in 
it so it smells different.  Backed it up so I could get to the 
wheels, and took off the rotten tars, bought 4 new uns, and had time 
to get them back on the car.


Bought a battery for the blue 240D, but did not try to fire it up 
yet.  I need to get it going and then fire up the H.  Even though I 
rebuilt the carb on the H 3 years ago, I think it is going to need 
work.  It needs a needle and probably a seat for the idle.  It never 
has idled right.  A project fer another day.


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: How I spent my Saturday

[Dieselhead]

Sounds like a "win" to me!





Original email with pics waiting for list mom to get to work.

Below is for my '95 E300.
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Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20



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[MBZ] Fwd: How I spent my Saturday

[Max Dillon]

Original email with pics waiting for list mom to get to work.

Below is for my '95 E300.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20


 Original Message 
From: Max Dillon 
Sent: Sat Apr 27 20:05:38 EDT 2013
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: How I spent my Saturday

Went over to a friends place and made a more permanent fix to my exhaust 
situation.  You may remember that the catalytic converter rusted and broke, so 
I cut it out and tried to substitute with a straight pipe.  Never could get all 
the joints to seal, poor car sounded like it had a rice burner fart can exhaust.

Price of a new converter from MB is north of $1600, not an option for me.

Fellow on the MBCA forum gave me some info on Magnaflow aftermarket converters 
for diesel engines.  Found one for $90 from O'reilly, so I ordered that and a 
bunch of adapters.  We also used some of the original muffler pipe (I had 
earlier replaced both the resonator and the exhaust).

All told, about $130 in parts, then about four hours for the two of us to fit 
the pieces up and weld it together.

My only beef is the connection to the two front pipes (coming from the exhaust 
manifold), which is not welded but clamped.  Hard to find a good match from 
metric exhaust to American exhaust pipe sizes.  I've got two exhaust clamps 
there, but it still leaks a bit.  Probably need to cut up a can and wrap a few 
layers to fill up the gaps and get a better seal.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

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Re: [MBZ] 4-29-1975 : Saigon

[Max Dillon]

Thanks guys, nice articles.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Craig  wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 13:48:59 -0400 Mitch Haley  wrote:
>
>> The fall of Saigon, seen through the eyes of a former American
>> Communist.
>>
>http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2013/04/anniversary-eve-of-fall-of-saigon.html
>
>
>At least this guy saw the light and experienced metanoia (repentance).
>
>Those of the doomsday environmental movement have not. A
>thirteen-year-old piece describes it:
>
>http://reason.com/archives/2000/05/01/earth-day-then-and-now
>Earth Day, Then and Now
>The planet's future has never looked better. Here's why.
>
>Ronald Bailey from the May 2000 issue
>
>
>Craig
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