Re: [MBZ] 240D success!
At 1:15 PM -0700 7/13/13, Curt Raymond wrote: Then I found a pivot point that also levers out in the wrong direction. I guess it needs a new bushing. Had a similar issue with a 450SEL once, but I made the discovery whilst broken down on the side of the interstate. I wound up putting a small wrench socket in place of the bushing and was able to make it to my destination and back home afterwards... ;) Anyway it looks like the Phoenix is rising once again. Good show! -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fan clutch
Ah ha. So the place I was looking only had the electric fans. That's why I couldn't find one. Now that I think on it I seem to remember seeing an electric clutch on a car in the UP. I'll have to go back there and take a closer look at it. Manfred Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 19:02:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com The OM601 was only in the US for '84 and '85 in the 190D. It had both an electromagnetic fan clutch on the engine powered fan and an added electric fan in front of the condenser which only comes on when the AC is on. See Dr. Fatty here:?http://www.buyeuroparts.com/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=1984-MERCEDES-190dyearid=1984%40%401984makeid=63%40%40MERCEDESmodelid=6119%3AMBC%7C1481%3AED%7C1092%40%40190Dcatid=240909@@Cooling%20Systemsubcatid=240997@@Fan%20Clutchmode=PA -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is my ac not working?
Jumpeingr 5 and 7 is what the relay does, so your compressor is good and the clutch coil conducts enough to at least spin it, but that does not mean the KLIMA is good. As I said, the PBCU switches on the compressor by grounding the wire from the low pressure cutout switch, so if the KLIMA is good, grounding that wire indicates that the PBCU is bad for some reason. If there is no voltage present at the low pressure cutout switch, either the wiring or the KLIMA is bad, and if there is but you don't get the compressor to come on when you ground it, the KLIMA is bad. You should also check the OVP relay, as I think the PBCU is protected, and a bad OVP relay will leave you with no or intermittent operation. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is my ac not working?
If the ovp relay was bad you would also not have any tach or electronic idle control, correct? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2013, at 8:09 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Jumpeingr 5 and 7 is what the relay does, so your compressor is good and the clutch coil conducts enough to at least spin it, but that does not mean the KLIMA is good. As I said, the PBCU switches on the compressor by grounding the wire from the low pressure cutout switch, so if the KLIMA is good, grounding that wire indicates that the PBCU is bad for some reason. If there is no voltage present at the low pressure cutout switch, either the wiring or the KLIMA is bad, and if there is but you don't get the compressor to come on when you ground it, the KLIMA is bad. You should also check the OVP relay, as I think the PBCU is protected, and a bad OVP relay will leave you with no or intermittent operation. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is my ac not working?
More than one circuit in there, you can lose one but not the others, I think. Good luck, I hate tracing down automotive electrical problems! One last thought -- make sure the ground at the PBCU is good Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is my ac not working?
So I ran a test wire from the plug on pressure switch to ground and compressor started up. So we either have a wiring issue to the pbu or a bunch of bad pbu's? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2013, at 8:09 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Jumpeingr 5 and 7 is what the relay does, so your compressor is good and the clutch coil conducts enough to at least spin it, but that does not mean the KLIMA is good. As I said, the PBCU switches on the compressor by grounding the wire from the low pressure cutout switch, so if the KLIMA is good, grounding that wire indicates that the PBCU is bad for some reason. If there is no voltage present at the low pressure cutout switch, either the wiring or the KLIMA is bad, and if there is but you don't get the compressor to come on when you ground it, the KLIMA is bad. You should also check the OVP relay, as I think the PBCU is protected, and a bad OVP relay will leave you with no or intermittent operation. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is my ac not working?
That is what I would say. Check the ground wire for the PBCU -- no ground = no operation. I'd suspect the wiring on that age car though -- 95 was right in the middle of the magical disintegrating insulation period. Every wire in the car is subject to that problem, not just the engine harness. The rest of the W124s and W126s have crumbling insulation issues as well, just not anywhere near as bad. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Euro W126 500SEL on CL
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com wrote: Came across this interesting gray market 500SEL on CL tonight. What caught my eye was the fact it's sitting so low at all for corners, I'm guessing it has the full Hydropneumatic suspension option! Yes, it does. Under the hood it looks just like the '82 500SEL mit Hydramat that I had. You can see the fluid reservoir in the front driver's-side corner of the engine compartment with the master distribution valve on top and the hard lines leading to the rest of the system on left and right of it. http://atlanta.craigslist.org/sat/cto/3932264868.html Would be a cool car to fix up get back on the road! Good luck with that, I gave up on mine after dumping a couple thousand dollars into it, parted out what I could on eBay and sold the rest to the scrap-metal vultures. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Adjusting valves - was: 240D success!
Curt wrote: Today I tried adjusting the valves, I'll not try that again until I get a proper set of wrenches... I use normal flat wrenches - except I have one ground thinner. I found the intakes all slightly loose (0.13mm) except for one that was perfect. Loose is good! Too loose and it effects power, but too tight and the engine will leak compression which has a bad effect on cold starting. The exhausts were all slightly tight (0.25-0.28mm). That's what normally happens. Considering the rough adjustment I was capable of I decided I'd loosen the tight exhaust valves and leave the loose intakes where they were, even then the adjustment took me right on 2 hours, most of that was farting around not knowing what I was doing. Just for the valves? Or including messing with the fuel feed linkage? The offset wrenches might help some, but it's still a fiddly process as tightening the nuts _will_ change the size of the gap. Practice will help. *smiles* -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fan clutch
Chris wrote: I wondered why they didn't put electric clutches on the larger engined cars. They are pretty neat perhaps offer better control of engine temps with a defined on-off signal from the temp switch. Maybe because an electric fan is more effective and should be easier to engineer around than a engine-driven fan. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fan clutch
Chris wrote: I wondered why they didn't put electric clutches on the larger engined cars. They are pretty neat perhaps offer better control of engine temps with a defined on-off signal from the temp switch. Maybe because an electric fan is more effective and should be easier to engineer around than a engine-driven fan. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '91 300se?
I'm a little bit intrigued by this ad. Last year of the W126 so it's got all the incremental fixes, plus the better mileage of the six over a V-8?... but which version of the M103/104 is that? 3.0 or 3.2 liters, 12 or 24 valves? http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/3932524127.html Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 300se?
This should be your next car: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1668139-fs-1988-mercedes-benz-300ce-lorinser.html#post5383062 On Jul 14, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: I'm a little bit intrigued by this ad. Last year of the W126 so it's got all the incremental fixes, plus the better mileage of the six over a V-8?... but which version of the M103/104 is that? 3.0 or 3.2 liters, 12 or 24 valves? http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/3932524127.html Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Euro W126 500SEL on CL
Yeah, this CL find could easily eat up a couple thousand just getting the interior back in order, let alone the mechanicals.just have never seen an Euro car with the system over here before. On 7/14/2013 1:34 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: Good luck with that, I gave up on mine after dumping a couple thousand dollars into it, parted out what I could on eBay and sold the rest to the scrap-metal vultures. Alex -- Chris J. MBCA Peachtree section Past MB Models: '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 300se?
Nice! IIRC, the 124 coupe got the 24V M104 first the 124 sedan/wagon followed in '93. The '91 126 still has the 12V M103. On 7/14/2013 3:18 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: This should be your next car: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1668139-fs-1988-mercedes-benz-300ce-lorinser.html#post5383062 On Jul 14, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: I'm a little bit intrigued by this ad. Last year of the W126 so it's got all the incremental fixes, plus the better mileage of the six over a V-8?... but which version of the M103/104 is that? 3.0 or 3.2 liters, 12 or 24 valves? http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/3932524127.html Alex -- Chris J. MBCA Peachtree section Past MB Models: '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 300se?
It is the 103 3.0, very slow in a big 126, will be about the same mpg as a 420 Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a little bit intrigued by this ad. Last year of the W126 so it's got all the incremental fixes, plus the better mileage of the six over a V-8?... but which version of the M103/104 is that? 3.0 or 3.2 liters, 12 or 24 valves? http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/3932524127.html Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 300se?
On Jul 14, 2013 12:41 PM, Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com wrote: Nice! Which is nice, the 126 I posted or the 124 boy-racer coupe Dan posted? The latter is only about five hours from me, and I could visit Clay on the way back and see his new W220... I'd probably be pricing Amtrak and Greyhound tickets already if I weren't unemployed. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 210 evap
I am going to have to replace the evap on my 97 e300 I guess. After about 2-3 weeks it does not cool all that great. Evacuated and recharged again today, with air blowing and compressor running my sniffer goes off when probe put to center vents. If I put it in ec mode sniffer settles down, as soon as I turn compressor back on sniffer goes off again. This seems like a pretty clear indication of a leaking evap Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w140 OR w220?
W113 good visibility too:) Sent from my iPhone On Jul 13, 2013, at 4:09 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I am really amazed at the visibility the R107 has with the top down. Sitting in a few other newer drop tops, the rear is too high to see out of. clay On Jul 12, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 21:49:18 -0700 Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: Does any vehicle, apart from pickups, have decent rear visibility anymore? The thick c- and d-pillars are not the only problem. The bottoms of the windows in the rear are higher than the ones in the front, too. Yes, good point. The current E-class (W212?) is a good example, but certainly not the only one, of that trend towards an extremely wedgy shape, where the window line is at an acute angle to the roof, sweeping upward from the nose. It's as if all the designers went on a field trip to a junkyard together and fell in love with a Triumph TR7. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 300se?
They both are. Usually not a fan of modified cars, but didn't think the 300CE was too over the top. It could stand to loose the spoiler though (or be replaced with a smaller one). A lot of options present themselves if $3K is available to spend though Like this '94 E320 in my favorite Teal Blue metallic with optional rear shade: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/3901200574.html Have not heard too much from Clay on his W220, would love to see pics sometime. I was hoping he would be able to get his E300 fixed up or find a replacement 124, 210 or 140 diesel. Oh well, I'm sure he'll come to enjoy it (the W220). On 7/14/2013 4:51 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Jul 14, 2013 12:41 PM, Chris Jamesc_ja...@gmx.com wrote: Nice! Which is nice, the 126 I posted or the 124 boy-racer coupe Dan posted? The latter is only about five hours from me, and I could visit Clay on the way back and see his new W220... I'd probably be pricing Amtrak and Greyhound tickets already if I weren't unemployed. Alex _ -- Chris J. MBCA Peachtree section Past MB Models: '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 210 evap
Make certain you don't have a high pressure leak under the hood! It's possible for freon to go into the intake from a leak underneath the hood. Otherwise, yup, time for an evaporator. I hope this is a better job than in my 87 300D. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Brake bleeding
I got the new front brake rotors and calipers/pads on the 84 SD, spent like an hour bleeding the system, putting in new DOT4 fluid. Went around 3 times sucking fluid with the MityVac, was getting a tiny bit of air but it seemed mostly to be leaking around the bleeder threads (I did wrap them all with some teflon tape to try to seal better) or my bleeder hose (which seems to fit fairly tightly). I was not getting much air on the final bleed. The pedal seemed pretty hard, but when I went out to bed in the pads, the pedal was getting a little soft and going down slowly as I held it, so it appears there is still some air in there. Question: how do I get that last bit of air out? I have been successful on the other SD and the TD but this thing seems to be intransigent. Should I go around again and suck out more fluid? Or should I make a pressure cap to do a pressure bleed? Ideas welcomed, I don't want to loose my break petal! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '91 300se?
On Jul 14, 2013 2:52 PM, Chris James A lot of options present themselves if $3K is available to spend though Like this '94 E320 in my favorite Teal Blue metallic with optional rear shade: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/3901200574.html There's a fair number of cheap '94-'95 facelifted 124s around here too, even a Cabrio for $8K but the infamous disintegrating wiring harnesses worry me. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding
Could there be a MC issue? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@.net wrote: I got the new front brake rotors and calipers/pads on the 84 SD, spent like an hour bleeding the system, putting in new DOT4 fluid. Went around 3 times sucking fluid with the MityVac, was getting a tiny bit of air but it seemed mostly to be leaking around the bleeder threads (I did wrap them all with some teflon tape to try to seal better) or my bleeder hose (which seems to fit fairly tightly). I was not getting much air on the final bleed. The pedal seemed pretty hard, but when I went out to bed in the pads, the pedal was getting a little soft and going down slowly as I held it, so it appears there is still some air in there. Question: how do I get that last bit of air out? I have been successful on the other SD and the TD but this thing seems to be intransigent. Should I go around again and suck out more fluid? Or should I make a pressure cap to do a pressure bleed? Ideas welcomed, I don't want to loose my break petal! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:23:10 -0400 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Question: how do I get that last bit of air out? I have been successful on the other SD and the TD but this thing seems to be intransigent. Should I go around again and suck out more fluid? Or should I make a pressure cap to do a pressure bleed? Ideas welcomed, I don't want to loose my break petal! I would do a pressure bleed, but then again I have one of those SpeedyBleed gizmos that make it easier. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fan clutch
At 3:14 PM -0500 7/13/13, Peter Frederick wrote: The fan is also kicked on in high speed by the temperature switch in the thermostat housing. Pull that wire off the switch and ground with the ignition on, fan must run on full speed. If not, it's the fan, the fuse, or the relay. Well, the relay clicks when I do that, but no fan. Are the relay and the fan on the same fuse? -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 210 evap
Yep Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:06 PM Subject: [MBZ] 210 evap I am going to have to replace the evap on my 97 e300 I guess. After about 2-3 weeks it does not cool all that great. Evacuated and recharged again today, with air blowing and compressor running my sniffer goes off when probe put to center vents. If I put it in ec mode sniffer settles down, as soon as I turn compressor back on sniffer goes off again. This seems like a pretty clear indication of a leaking evap Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding
Is it pre-ABS? If so, just open the bleeder valves and let gravity do the work - not going to introduce any air that way (not that I see hoe the mityvac would either). If that doesn't work, and the resevior doesn't get too low, you have a master cylinder to replace/rebuild. On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:23:10 -0400 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Question: how do I get that last bit of air out? I have been successful on the other SD and the TD but this thing seems to be intransigent. Should I go around again and suck out more fluid? Or should I make a pressure cap to do a pressure bleed? Ideas welcomed, I don't want to loose my break petal! I would do a pressure bleed, but then again I have one of those SpeedyBleed gizmos that make it easier. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fan clutch
I don't think so, but you'll have to look that one up. On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 7:25 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.comwrote: At 3:14 PM -0500 7/13/13, Peter Frederick wrote: The fan is also kicked on in high speed by the temperature switch in the thermostat housing. Pull that wire off the switch and ground with the ignition on, fan must run on full speed. If not, it's the fan, the fuse, or the relay. Well, the relay clicks when I do that, but no fan. Are the relay and the fan on the same fuse? -MMM- __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Flying People
Very cool trio of flying human drones soar and dart over New York. http://zanylol.com/flyingpeople.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding
Master cylinders love to go south just after you change rotors, calipers, pads etc. On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 8:52 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Is it pre-ABS? If so, just open the bleeder valves and let gravity do the work - not going to introduce any air that way (not that I see hoe the mityvac would either). If that doesn't work, and the resevior doesn't get too low, you have a master cylinder to replace/rebuild. On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:23:10 -0400 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Question: how do I get that last bit of air out? I have been successful on the other SD and the TD but this thing seems to be intransigent. Should I go around again and suck out more fluid? Or should I make a pressure cap to do a pressure bleed? Ideas welcomed, I don't want to loose my break petal! I would do a pressure bleed, but then again I have one of those SpeedyBleed gizmos that make it easier. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding
Pick a flower and enjoy it's beauty on your dining table :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (168,xxx mi) On 7/14/2013 6:23 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Ideas welcomed, I don't want to loose my break petal! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why is my ac not working?
I'll give you $500 for it. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (168,xxx mi) On 7/13/2013 9:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I had one clutch fail, but have had many klimas fail. This one has me baffled. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124
That's the general idea. Larry, did you try a bit of soapy water on the bushing? That might help slide her in place. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (168,xxx mi) On 7/10/2013 10:37 PM, OK Don wrote: I actually found my shifter bushing installation tool while looking for a 13/32 socket this afternoon, and had the presence of mind to take a picture of it. The bolt is 5/16 X 1½. The cup like thing (luther used a PVC pipe cap) is a nut for electrical conduit, ground down to be shorter. It only needs to be deep enough for the far (tranny) side of the bushing. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Found w140 turbo diesel
Well, as it says, I found a w140 turbo diesel today, and it's looking pretty good. I kinda remember these being not so common, so I'm wondering what the pros/cons would be? Kaleb, didn't you have one of these before? Thanks for all ya'lls help with all this. Joe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Found w140 turbo diesel
On Jul 14, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Joe Sasser joesas...@mac.com wrote: I'm wondering what the pros/cons would be? Cons: An engine that will self destruct with bent rods, a wiring harness that will self destruct with heat and time, many complex computerized systems... Pros: A state of the art automobile for its time. Timeless design. Awesome ride. Built like a vault. Quiet beyond tranquility. The Princess of Wales was known to ride in one (w140) from time to time. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Found w140 turbo diesel
I have 3 or 4 of them right now. Make sure the engine has been replaced, or if not and its not burning oil yet, yank it out replace the rods and head gasket. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Joe Sasser joesas...@mac.com wrote: Well, as it says, I found a w140 turbo diesel today, and it's looking pretty good. I kinda remember these being not so common, so I'm wondering what the pros/cons would be? Kaleb, didn't you have one of these before? Thanks for all ya'lls help with all this. Joe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124
Also be certain that not part of the tool you are using is impeding the bushing on the back side! On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: That's the general idea. Larry, did you try a bit of soapy water on the bushing? That might help slide her in place. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (168,xxx mi) -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing the Gearshift Lever Bushing 91 300D 2.5T S124
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 20:28:45 -0500 Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: That's the general idea. Larry, did you try a bit of soapy water on the bushing? That might help slide her in place. I used Vasoline petroleum jelly. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Found w140 turbo diesel
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 20:56:56 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I have 3 or 4 of them right now. Make sure the engine has been replaced, or if not and its not burning oil yet, yank it out replace the rods and head gasket. BTW, how is the one on which you replaced only one rod doing? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Found w140 turbo diesel
It's doing just fine. It still uses some oil because #1 was already showing wear, but not as much as it was before. I have not been driving it lately, I need to do a full Martha poos treatment to it though Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 20:56:56 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I have 3 or 4 of them right now. Make sure the engine has been replaced, or if not and its not burning oil yet, yank it out replace the rods and head gasket. BTW, how is the one on which you replaced only one rod doing? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fan clutch
No, the aux fan has it's own fuse. Also check to make sure the slow speed resistor is OK, else you won't have low speed. I found out today that the AC is fine on the TE, but the aux fan was jammed by an extra metal tab sticking out in an inappropriate place on the new condenser I put in last year, so now the AC works until the head pressure gets so high the belt slips. What a pain -- no current to the fan with a new fuse, will have to dig the relay out tomorrow and see if I have a spare, and check the resistor. At least it cools on the highway, gonna be in the 90s all week so I plan to drive the TE instead of the diesel, which still needs and evaporator. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding
Don't think so, was fine before. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Jul 14, 2013, at 7:37 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Could there be a MC issue? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@.net wrote: I got the new front brake rotors and calipers/pads on the 84 SD, spent like an hour bleeding the system, putting in new DOT4 fluid. Went around 3 times sucking fluid with the MityVac, was getting a tiny bit of air but it seemed mostly to be leaking around the bleeder threads (I did wrap them all with some teflon tape to try to seal better) or my bleeder hose (which seems to fit fairly tightly). I was not getting much air on the final bleed. The pedal seemed pretty hard, but when I went out to bed in the pads, the pedal was getting a little soft and going down slowly as I held it, so it appears there is still some air in there. Question: how do I get that last bit of air out? I have been successful on the other SD and the TD but this thing seems to be intransigent. Should I go around again and suck out more fluid? Or should I make a pressure cap to do a pressure bleed? Ideas welcomed, I don't want to loose my break petal! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding
The slow sinking pedal sounds more like a master cylinder (MC) problem than air in the lines. On an old MC the area routinely swept by the piston stays smooth but the untouched part of the cylinder can get rough enough to chew up the piston seal. So if the pedal gets pushed beyond the normal range it can wreck the piston seal. I'd rule out other problems first but you may have a sick MC. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Brake bleeding I got the new front brake rotors and calipers/pads on the 84 SD, spent like an hour bleeding the system, putting in new DOT4 fluid. Went around 3 times sucking fluid with the MityVac, was getting a tiny bit of air but it seemed mostly to be leaking around the bleeder threads (I did wrap them all with some teflon tape to try to seal better) or my bleeder hose (which seems to fit fairly tightly). I was not getting much air on the final bleed. The pedal seemed pretty hard, but when I went out to bed in the pads, the pedal was getting a little soft and going down slowly as I held it, so it appears there is still some air in there. Question: how do I get that last bit of air out? I have been successful on the other SD and the TD but this thing seems to be intransigent. Should I go around again and suck out more fluid? Or should I make a pressure cap to do a pressure bleed? Ideas welcomed, I don't want to loose my break petal! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake bleeding
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 23:48:42 -0400 Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: The slow sinking pedal sounds more like a master cylinder (MC) problem than air in the lines. On an old MC the area routinely swept by the piston stays smooth but the untouched part of the cylinder can get rough enough to chew up the piston seal. So if the pedal gets pushed beyond the normal range it can wreck the piston seal. Which is why one does not want to use the old pump the pedal routine but instead pressure or vacuum bleed. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Found w140 turbo diesel
On Jul 14, 2013, at 10:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I have not been driving it lately, Heck, don't you have a Chevy Sonic for a company car? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
