Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk

[G Mann]

I miss-spoke.. it's been a long day.. 36,000 acres.. give or take.. and
it's not square.. the survey party was likely drunk or dehydrated.. ha..

Survey points run from mountain top to mountain top and along stream beds
in some places.. so it's not like a city lot.. all nice and neat.. Some of
the border is defined by Bureau of Land Management. so who really knows
what wound their watch.. Last survey was in 1952 and all major points are
marked with 2 inch steel shafts.. I've located most of them...

It seems like a lot, but actually as ranches go in this area, it's a little
one..
Desert land.. not much water.. little graze. takes many acres to feed one
animal.. maybe.

The main product is peace and quiet from a irritating public.. Hope this
satisfies all who are curious.

Grant...


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Craig  wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 21:27:09 -0700 G Mann  wrote:
>
> > 640 x 36  about covers it.  Lots of open space that's untouched and will
> > stay that way if I have my way about it.
>
> As in 36 sections? As in 36 square miles?  As in 23,040 acres?
>
> Is your property a square, a rectangle, or some other shape?
>
> Thinking about it, though, it cannot be a square. That would be six miles
> on a side and would imply a driveway shorter than 14 miles (unless it
> meanders A LOT!).
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

[Gerry Archer]

Gerry wrote:
Can someone tell me where the wire from the buss to the battery
connects to the positive battery cable so I can check it's
continuity and clean the connection?


Better - or more accurate - than measuring continuity is to measure
voltage drop.  After starting the engine (so the battery needs a
bit of charging) measure the voltage with one lead on the battery
"+" terminal and the other on the big wire at the alternator.  If
there is more than 0.25 V drop, it's worth a closer look.

--   Philip


Good idea; didn't think of that.  I'll try it tomorrow.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

[Gerry Archer]

- Original Message - 
From: "Craig" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D



On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 23:37:46 -0400 "Gerry Archer"
 wrote:


..
What I thought about doing was putting the jumpers between the
batteries just like I was jumpstarting the car.  Then I start the car
with the questionable battery/alternator.  Leaving the negative jumper
attached to the negative cable on the questionable battery, I remove
the negative cable from that battery and wrap plastic around it to
insulate it. That way the alternator is attached only to the good
battery in the other car.  If the meter sees 13.7v, the alternator
should be good and the questionable battery identified as being the
problem.  I have negative to negative and positive to positive with the
questionable battery out of the picture.  Wouldn't that work?


Yes, that would work.
But what if you slip?
Craig


Used to doing that.  If so, just start over with new diodes, new regulator, 
new alternator, new battery, new car; whatever it takes. (grin)
Gerry 



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Re: [MBZ] coffee

[Gary Hurst]

taiwan stuff is ok.  the bicycles are actually really superb and have been
good for 20 years.  back in the day, i had this GF and she wanted to ride
with me.  i rode a bridgestone and really loved it.  so i told her to get a
bridgestone.  she naturally just went to the corner bike shop and bought
what they sold.  it was a giant.  i'd never heard of giant and was pretty
positive she was hosed, so i decided to show her in great detail why her
bike sucked and she should have gotten a bridgestone like i said.  only the
giant was super nice.  it rode super nice.  i was shocked to see it was
from taiwan

taiwan mercedes parts are ok too.  i sell a lot of karlyn control arms to
people who dont' want to pony up for the real deal and they work out
nicely, unlike the URO chinese garbage that is just worthless.

i might buy a little scooter someday.  are there weight limits on them?
i'd get a 49cc so i don't have to mess with licensing or insurance and i'm
not planning on going very far or very fast.


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:44 AM, Rick Hawkins Java  wrote:

> I sold coffee WAY before it was cool
>
> I've had a bunch of coffee houses and the most interesting time was when
> we were in a 1920's gas station and had a coffee counter with espresso
> machine and did printing in the garage bay with several presses, plate
> burner, light tables and laser printer and process camera and did color
> film processing AND sold new and used bikes and did a lot or bike repairs.
>
> That was from about 1985 to 1990. About 1990, the printing business was
> starting to shrink, so i moved into a couple of revivals of film movie
> cameras etc., etc.
>
> The bikes sort of morphed into motor scooters when i started selling Bajaj
> scooters.
>
> As for the chinese bikes, they really sucked 10 or 11 years ago when i
> started selling Geely. Then we sold lots of Vento 150 cc bikes which were
> really good, now i sell Peace brand scooters. All of those are chinese
> except for the bajaj which was a vespa company, originally (in india). This
> is the real name of Peace ... Chongqing Astronautic Bashan Motorcycle
> Manufacturing Co., Ltd.
>
> We mostly sell 50cc Peace scooters for about $950 with inexpensive helmet
> for your inexpensive head. I rode a new 50cc home for a college student who
> wasn't yet comfortable with it, on friday, about 5 miles over to the
> college on Friday  it ran really nicely.
>
> The chinese bikes HAVE to be setup and adjusted to run right, but if you
> do that they are pretty good.
>
> Hondas and yamahas and vespas and taiwan (TGB, Kymco, etc) are better BUT
> they cost 3X the price and my customers are NOT shopping for $2500 to $3000
> 50 cc bikes. Most Vespa dealers are not doing all that well.
>
> Parts? everything is on ebay and it's cheap. My importer/supplier in
> Atlanta which is, i think, owned by peace, is LOADED with parts. They
> usually have everything.
>
>
> thanks,
>
> xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] who am i

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Sep 3, 2013 10:02 PM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:
>
> do you sell coffee?
>
> on a serious note, some kid my kid used to go to school with in GA bought
> one of those 49cc chinese scooters against my advice how dismal are they?
>

Made in mainland China, or Taiwan?

The Taiwanese Kymco scooters are quite good for the price.  Popular all
over the Third World and parts are no.problem.  the ones from mainland
China are just as crummy as you can guess, probably more so.  If they had
to meet any kind of safety standards, they be just as unsalable as chinese
cars are here.  (A great irony that Volvo is now a Chinese brand.)

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: We are selling......

[clay]

Trent got Rusty's database.  I did not give him any payment data and he shipped 
my parts, charged the card, and no security data was mentioned

clay

On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:56 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

> i'm not sure that i was on rusty's mailing list and i got that email.
> while i'm sure he has the bimby customer list, he likely also has added
> some people from here.
> 
> i can't say for sure though but i would ot have been receiving rusty emails
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> 
>> So did anyone receive this email from Trent that was not already on rustys
>> mailing list?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 10:03 PM, clay  wrote:
>> 
>>> He mined the list and made a spam program.  WE are not going to be quit
>> of him until Ted Kosinski mails him a package
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote:
>>> 
 
 thanks,
 
 xx rick
 Rick Hawkins
 It looks like this will never end
 
 received this email just now  and i've NEVER bought from Trent
 
 xx rick hawkins
 Begin forwarded message:
 
> From: Buymbparts 
> Date: September 3, 2013 8:46:12 PM EDT
> To: macj...@aol.com
> Subject: We are selling..
> Reply-To: buymbpa...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> Buymbparts
> September 3, 2013
> Customer,
> 
> 
> TOM IS Back. Tom has come back to work for you at buyMBparts.
> We are here selling full time, and Tom has come back. His expertise
>> will be a HUGE asset for us. He is anxiously ready to get back at it.
> 
> Tom's direct phone line is 770-609-8795, He can also be reached on
>> our toll free line at 1-800-741-5252.
> 
> Give him a call and see how he's been.
> 
> I want to take this time to thank all of our loyal customers, We will
>> continue to strive to provide you the highest quality Genuine, OEM, OES
>> Mercedes Parts. We are looking forward to serving you.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> 
> Trent Fiorini
> Buymbparts
> Save 15%
> For the month of September save an additional 15% on all Oil and Air
>> Filters to get your car ready for the fall season
> ( phone sales only )  Just mention this ad when ordering. Stock Up...
> Offer Expires: September 30.2013
> Forward this email
> 
> This email was sent to macj...@aol.com by buymbpa...@gmail.com |
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[MBZ] coffee

[Rick Hawkins Java]

I sold coffee WAY before it was cool

I've had a bunch of coffee houses and the most interesting time was  
when we were in a 1920's gas station and had a coffee counter with  
espresso machine and did printing in the garage bay with several  
presses, plate burner, light tables and laser printer and process  
camera and did color film processing AND sold new and used bikes and  
did a lot or bike repairs.


That was from about 1985 to 1990. About 1990, the printing business  
was starting to shrink, so i moved into a couple of revivals of film  
movie cameras etc., etc.


The bikes sort of morphed into motor scooters when i started selling  
Bajaj scooters.


As for the chinese bikes, they really sucked 10 or 11 years ago when i  
started selling Geely. Then we sold lots of Vento 150 cc bikes which  
were really good, now i sell Peace brand scooters. All of those are  
chinese except for the bajaj which was a vespa company, originally (in  
india). This is the real name of Peace ... Chongqing Astronautic  
Bashan Motorcycle Manufacturing Co., Ltd.


We mostly sell 50cc Peace scooters for about $950 with inexpensive  
helmet for your inexpensive head. I rode a new 50cc home for a college  
student who wasn't yet comfortable with it, on friday, about 5 miles  
over to the college on Friday  it ran really nicely.


The chinese bikes HAVE to be setup and adjusted to run right, but if  
you do that they are pretty good.


Hondas and yamahas and vespas and taiwan (TGB, Kymco, etc) are better  
BUT they cost 3X the price and my customers are NOT shopping for $2500  
to $3000 50 cc bikes. Most Vespa dealers are not doing all that well.


Parts? everything is on ebay and it's cheap. My importer/supplier in  
Atlanta which is, i think, owned by peace, is LOADED with parts. They  
usually have everything.



thanks,

xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] who am i

[Gary Hurst]

do you sell coffee?

on a serious note, some kid my kid used to go to school with in GA bought
one of those 49cc chinese scooters against my advice how dismal are they?
are there even parts readily available for them?  wouldn't it have made
more sense to buy some kind of used honda or yamaha or something?


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 12:26 AM, Rick Hawkins Java  wrote:

> Someone asked if i were the Rick Hawkins who sold suzuki parts, well NO
>
> altho i do sell motor scooters, i don't think i've ever even owned or sold
> any suzuki stuff
> thanks,
>
> xx rick
> Rick Hawkins
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> www.javacycles.com
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> www.letterpressmachinery.com
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>
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> Java Bajaj Cycles
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> Athens, Georgia 30601
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: We are selling......

[Gary Hurst]

plus i was never a customer but an owner, so i likely would have never been
on a bimby customer list


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> i'm not sure that i was on rusty's mailing list and i got that email.
> while i'm sure he has the bimby customer list, he likely also has added
> some people from here.
>
> i can't say for sure though but i would ot have been receiving rusty emails
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>
>> So did anyone receive this email from Trent that was not already on
>> rustys mailing list?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 10:03 PM, clay  wrote:
>>
>> > He mined the list and made a spam program.  WE are not going to be quit
>> of him until Ted Kosinski mails him a package
>> >
>> > clay
>> >
>> > On Sep 3, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> thanks,
>> >>
>> >> xx rick
>> >> Rick Hawkins
>> >> It looks like this will never end
>> >>
>> >> received this email just now  and i've NEVER bought from Trent
>> >>
>> >> xx rick hawkins
>> >> Begin forwarded message:
>> >>
>> >>> From: Buymbparts 
>> >>> Date: September 3, 2013 8:46:12 PM EDT
>> >>> To: macj...@aol.com
>> >>> Subject: We are selling..
>> >>> Reply-To: buymbpa...@gmail.com
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Buymbparts
>> >>> September 3, 2013
>> >>> Customer,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> TOM IS Back. Tom has come back to work for you at buyMBparts.
>> >>> We are here selling full time, and Tom has come back. His expertise
>> will be a HUGE asset for us. He is anxiously ready to get back at it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Tom's direct phone line is 770-609-8795, He can also be reached on
>> our toll free line at 1-800-741-5252.
>> >>>
>> >>> Give him a call and see how he's been.
>> >>>
>> >>> I want to take this time to thank all of our loyal customers, We will
>> continue to strive to provide you the highest quality Genuine, OEM, OES
>> Mercedes Parts. We are looking forward to serving you.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sincerely,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Trent Fiorini
>> >>> Buymbparts
>> >>> Save 15%
>> >>> For the month of September save an additional 15% on all Oil and Air
>> Filters to get your car ready for the fall season
>> >>> ( phone sales only )  Just mention this ad when ordering. Stock Up...
>> >>> Offer Expires: September 30.2013
>> >>> Forward this email
>> >>>
>> >>> This email was sent to macj...@aol.com by buymbpa...@gmail.com |
>> >>> Update Profile/Email Address | Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribe™
>> | Privacy Policy.
>> >>> Buymbparts | 300 West miller road | Sterling | IL | 61081
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk

[Gerry Archer]

You must have a world class tax bill.
How close is the nearest FBO?
Do you have a landing strip?
Gerry


> > The Ranch is about the size of Long Island.. only with no people.. I
like
> > it that way.  Sign on front gate reads "Use of deadly force
> > authorized
> > beyond this point"... "Access by invitation only" so the welcome mat
> > is
> > out.. ;)
> >
> > If you walk in, pack a lunch.. it's 14 miles to the house from the
front
> > gate, only 106 F here today.. might take water also..
> >
> > Grant...



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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: We are selling......

[Gary Hurst]

i'm not sure that i was on rusty's mailing list and i got that email.
while i'm sure he has the bimby customer list, he likely also has added
some people from here.

i can't say for sure though but i would ot have been receiving rusty emails


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> So did anyone receive this email from Trent that was not already on rustys
> mailing list?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 3, 2013, at 10:03 PM, clay  wrote:
>
> > He mined the list and made a spam program.  WE are not going to be quit
> of him until Ted Kosinski mails him a package
> >
> > clay
> >
> > On Sep 3, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >>
> >> xx rick
> >> Rick Hawkins
> >> It looks like this will never end
> >>
> >> received this email just now  and i've NEVER bought from Trent
> >>
> >> xx rick hawkins
> >> Begin forwarded message:
> >>
> >>> From: Buymbparts 
> >>> Date: September 3, 2013 8:46:12 PM EDT
> >>> To: macj...@aol.com
> >>> Subject: We are selling..
> >>> Reply-To: buymbpa...@gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Buymbparts
> >>> September 3, 2013
> >>> Customer,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> TOM IS Back. Tom has come back to work for you at buyMBparts.
> >>> We are here selling full time, and Tom has come back. His expertise
> will be a HUGE asset for us. He is anxiously ready to get back at it.
> >>>
> >>> Tom's direct phone line is 770-609-8795, He can also be reached on
> our toll free line at 1-800-741-5252.
> >>>
> >>> Give him a call and see how he's been.
> >>>
> >>> I want to take this time to thank all of our loyal customers, We will
> continue to strive to provide you the highest quality Genuine, OEM, OES
> Mercedes Parts. We are looking forward to serving you.
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Trent Fiorini
> >>> Buymbparts
> >>> Save 15%
> >>> For the month of September save an additional 15% on all Oil and Air
> Filters to get your car ready for the fall season
> >>> ( phone sales only )  Just mention this ad when ordering. Stock Up...
> >>> Offer Expires: September 30.2013
> >>> Forward this email
> >>>
> >>> This email was sent to macj...@aol.com by buymbpa...@gmail.com |
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk

[Craig]

On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 21:27:09 -0700 G Mann  wrote:

> 640 x 36  about covers it.  Lots of open space that's untouched and will
> stay that way if I have my way about it.

As in 36 sections? As in 36 square miles?  As in 23,040 acres?

Is your property a square, a rectangle, or some other shape?

Thinking about it, though, it cannot be a square. That would be six miles
on a side and would imply a driveway shorter than 14 miles (unless it
meanders A LOT!).


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Android Email

[Rick Knoble]

 On Sep 3, 2013, at 11:43 PM, "clay"  wrote:

> Have you checked Frys.com?  They seem to have android based tablet selling 
> for $89.

I would think it had cheap glass. I had an Iview tablet for about four days 
before the glass broke from it falling on a padded, carpeted floor. Stick with 
the name brands that have Gorilla Glass by Corning. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT Android Email

[clay]

Have you checked Frys.com?  They seem to have android based tablet selling for 
$89.

clay


On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:27 PM, Benz Hogs wrote:

> I already have a Thinkpad x201, which is quite portable.  I'm looking 
> specifically for a tablet.
> 
> 
> Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
> '98 ML320 "Max" (170,xxx mi)
> 
> On 9/3/2013 10:55 PM, Richard Hattaway wrote:
>> Hey Luther, when you go tablet shopping, look carefully at the Acer 
>> Chromebook.  It's under 200 bux and runs rings around my wife's tablet.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Android Email

[Benz Hogs]

I already have a Thinkpad x201, which is quite portable.  I'm looking 
specifically for a tablet.



Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (170,xxx mi)

On 9/3/2013 10:55 PM, Richard Hattaway wrote:

Hey Luther, when you go tablet shopping, look carefully at the Acer Chromebook. 
 It's under 200 bux and runs rings around my wife's tablet.




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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk

[G Mann]

640 x 36  about covers it.  Lots of open space that's untouched and will
stay that way if I have my way about it.



On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Craig  wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 21:31:24 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
>  wrote:
>
> > I would like to have a multi hundred acre ranch where it is 14 miles
> > from the entrance to my house.
>
> Since a square mile is 640 acres, a 14 mile driveway would imply
> multi-thousand acres, unless your ranch were 14 miles long and 1/14 mile
> (377.14 feet) wide.
>
>
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[MBZ] who am i

[Rick Hawkins Java]

Someone asked if i were the Rick Hawkins who sold suzuki parts, well NO

altho i do sell motor scooters, i don't think i've ever even owned or  
sold any suzuki stuff

thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

www.javaphoto.com
www.javacycles.com
LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE
www.ricktheprinter.com
www.letterpressmachinery.com



Java Photo
Java Bajaj Cycles
215 Bryan Street
Athens, Georgia 30601

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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

[Richard Hattaway]

Yep, slipsies might introduce more questions than answers.  Just make the 240D 
bare posts, and set up the jumpers.  If you get 13.7 when the 300 D is running, 
then look at the battery in the 300D closer. 

You really don't have to disconnect the 300D battery to make the test.  

I think you are going to see 12.7 with both batteries.  But then you've 
scratched off one of the tests you wanted to run pretty early in the game.

Did the new connector help any?? I've never changed one.  I was thinking it was 
a molded plug on the end of some wires, but it's been 8 years since I've looked 
at one.





 From: Craig 
To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D
 

On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 23:37:46 -0400 "Gerry Archer"
 wrote:

> ..
> What I thought about doing was putting the jumpers between the
> batteries just like I was jumpstarting the car.  Then I start the car
> with the questionable battery/alternator.  Leaving the negative jumper
> attached to the negative cable on the questionable battery, I remove
> the negative cable from that battery and wrap plastic around it to
> insulate it. That way the alternator is attached only to the good
> battery in the other car.  If the meter sees 13.7v, the alternator
> should be good and the questionable battery identified as being the
> problem.  I have negative to negative and positive to positive with the
> questionable battery out of the picture.  Wouldn't that work?

Yes, that would work.


But what if you slip?




Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Android Email

[Richard Hattaway]

Hey Luther, when you go tablet shopping, look carefully at the Acer Chromebook. 
 It's under 200 bux and runs rings around my wife's tablet.



 From: Benz Hogs 
To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Android Email
 

Download an app that's not Google.  Google's email is designed to handle 
threaded view expecting that you will open up the quoted text.
Boomerang Android app is in beta and I've suggested the quote feature. 
See 
http://boomerangandroid.uservoice.com/forums/212277-general/suggestions/4385580-quote-allow-us-to-select-a-specific-section-to-qu

I'll be getting a tablet soon, and would also like to see this feature.

Luther   KB5QHU    Forest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (170,xxx mi)

On 9/3/2013 8:38 PM, rickknoble wrote:
>
> I would love to use my tablet for email more often, but I have no clue how to 
> do quoted text in replying to emails. Does anyone have any tips? I now know 
> how Max struggled with email on his Android phone. Guess I'll be sticking 
> with the iPhone or maybe a BlackBerry Z10.
>
>
> Rick Knoble
>
> Sent from My Samsung tablet

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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

[Richard Hattaway]

If an alternator acted as a simple supply of E in said equation, then yes, this 
is true.  One could also insert an R with a value of 0 and have the alternator 
provide infinite charge.

However, an alternator actually depends on the battery for excitation of its 
field windings, and a battery with a high resistance cell will normally cause 
the alternator to not charge.



 From: Fmiser 
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D
 

> Richard wrote:
> 
> In fact, what will probably happen is the alternator will begin
> charging the newly introduced battery since the questionable one
> was run dry, thus has a high resistance cell eliminating the
> ability for the battery to be charged by the alternator. 

If the battery has high resistance, then it will be even easier for
the alternator to achieve 13.6 V.  If the resistance is _low_, then
it could have trouble supplying the necessary current.  Ohms law
and all that. *smiles*

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

[Craig]

On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 23:37:46 -0400 "Gerry Archer"
 wrote:

> ..
> What I thought about doing was putting the jumpers between the
> batteries just like I was jumpstarting the car.  Then I start the car
> with the questionable battery/alternator.  Leaving the negative jumper
> attached to the negative cable on the questionable battery, I remove
> the negative cable from that battery and wrap plastic around it to
> insulate it. That way the alternator is attached only to the good
> battery in the other car.  If the meter sees 13.7v, the alternator
> should be good and the questionable battery identified as being the
> problem.  I have negative to negative and positive to positive with the
> questionable battery out of the picture.  Wouldn't that work?

Yes, that would work.


But what if you slip?




Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Android Email

[Benz Hogs]

Download an app that's not Google.  Google's email is designed to handle 
threaded view expecting that you will open up the quoted text.
Boomerang Android app is in beta and I've suggested the quote feature. 
See 
http://boomerangandroid.uservoice.com/forums/212277-general/suggestions/4385580-quote-allow-us-to-select-a-specific-section-to-qu


I'll be getting a tablet soon, and would also like to see this feature.

Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (170,xxx mi)

On 9/3/2013 8:38 PM, rickknoble wrote:


I would love to use my tablet for email more often, but I have no clue how to 
do quoted text in replying to emails. Does anyone have any tips? I now know how 
Max struggled with email on his Android phone. Guess I'll be sticking with the 
iPhone or maybe a BlackBerry Z10.


Rick Knoble

Sent from My Samsung tablet


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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk

[Craig]

On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 21:31:24 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:

> I would like to have a multi hundred acre ranch where it is 14 miles
> from the entrance to my house.

Since a square mile is 640 acres, a 14 mile driveway would imply
multi-thousand acres, unless your ranch were 14 miles long and 1/14 mile
(377.14 feet) wide.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

[Richard Hattaway]

OK, it's not a good idea to remove a battery from a turning alternator.  So 
this  is not a good plan.

I was thinking more along the idea of disconnecting the 240 battery from it's 
car ( pull the cables off ) then jumping the 240 battery over to the 300.  The 
240 battery is still in the car but not connected to the car.

If you have no issue starting the 300, it starts easlily with the questionable 
battery, then I'm thinking it's not the battery that's at the root of your 
charging issue.



 From: Gerry Archer 
To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D
 

I do have heavy cables but won't be using them to start the 300D.  I'll 
start the 300D with its battery and then disconnect it and hook the 300D 
cables to the jumpers and the other end of the jumpers to the disconnected 
240D battery.  There will probably be a voltage drop but I should be able to 
see if the alternator is charging.  Does that make sense?
Gerry

From: "Michael Canfield" 
> If you are saying you are going to use your jumper cables in between the
> 240 battery and the 300 cables and starter yhen you better have a big set
> of cables.  Like welding cable.  Otherwise you will burn them up and not
> answer your question.  Better to just swap out the batteries and see if 
> the
> issue follows the battery from the 300.
>
> Mike
> On Sep 3, 2013 2:21 PM, "Gerry Archer"  wrote:
>
>> That's a good idea, Richard.  I'll put the 240D and the 300D side by side
>> and jumper with all the cables off.  I know the 240D battery is good.
>> Batteries are both group 49.
>> Thanks,
>> Gerry
>>
>> From: "Richard Hattaway" 
>> Like everybody else has said, please change the battery before you go to
>> all that trouble. You could even just use some jumper cables and clamp
>> another one in parallel to the toasted one to prove your point. Much 
>> easier
>> than messing with regulators and drill presses (c:
>>
>> Thanks to Rick, Richard, and Loren for your advice; and to Fred for the
>> connector which arrived in good order. Going to wire it up and try it
>> again. If the connector wasn't the problem, will put a good regulator in
>> and try it. If that doesn't work, will chuck the 3 used alternators in 
>> the
>> drill press one at a time and try the half dozen regulators (hooked to 
>> the
>> 12 volt shop battery) until I find a good combination. If "that" doesn't
>> work, I'll assume that the battery, (which had boiled out most of its 
>> water
>> in one cell), is at fault and get FLAPS to put in a new battery which 
>> they
>> agree to do at my option.
>>
>> Gerrymostly talking to myself
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

[Gerry Archer]

From: "Peter Frederick" 
Don't do this, you are likely to blow the diodes in the alternator by 
running it without the battery connected!


If you want to see if it charges the other battery, install the  battery 
in the car.


If the battery boiled out, even one cell, either it was charging at  far 
too high a voltage, which you can easily check, or the battery was 
defective.



Peter

..
What I thought about doing was putting the jumpers between the batteries 
just like I was jumpstarting the car.  Then I start the car with the 
questionable battery/alternator.  Leaving the negative jumper attached to 
the negative cable on the questionable battery, I remove the negative cable 
from that battery and wrap plastic around it to insulate it.
That way the alternator is attached only to the good battery in the other 
car.  If the meter sees 13.7v, the alternator should be good and the 
questionable battery identified as being the problem.  I have negative to 
negative and positive to positive with the questionable battery out of the 
picture.  Wouldn't that work?

Gerry



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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts BS

[Scott Ritchey]

I believe Iron Rail was MLRS (multiple launch rocket system).  And it is
truly awesome near ground zero.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 11:16 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts BS

In Desert Storm 1 the Iraq soldiers named that "Iron Rain" and it truly
instilled "shock and awe" to the highest degree.

Until you have been ground level anywhere near one of those deliveries, it
can't truly be appreciated.

I sleep better at night, thanks for all your service Wilton.

Grant...


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> WILTON wrote:
>
>> I could just call for a B-52 strike, you know.  What are those
>> coordinates, again?   ;<)
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: We are selling......

[Rich Thomas]

Gmail is very effective at collecting email addys and all kinds of other stuff. 
 Google is scary.

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Sep 3, 2013, at 11:15 PM, Craig  wrote:

On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 20:03:46 -0700 clay  wrote:

> He mined the list and made a spam program.  WE are not going to be quit
> of him until Ted Kosinski mails him a package

No, likely not true. His emails are in the same format that Rusty used to
send out. He most likely got a customer list from Rusty. I got one from
him, too, just like I used to get from Rusty. No big deal. Unsubscribe is
easy.

Let's leave this mess of competing parts vendors completely alone.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts BS

[Scott Ritchey]

Just one more of the hundreds of pieces of spam I get daily.  No big deal.




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Re: [MBZ] Am I retarded?

[Craig]

On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 18:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
 wrote:

> Sounds like a good excuse to do a roller paint job. If you're going to
> take it off its very easy. 1 quart of Rustoleum, 3 or 4 foam (FOAM, not
> nap) rollers, a quart of mineral spirits, something to mix in and
> you're on your way. The hood on my '83 240D was GREAT from 20 feet and
> that was a white car. I've got a lot more experience now and could do a
> better job in much less time.
> 
> Tip: The paint will flash dry fast, you can paint a new coat on every
> 10 minutes or less. The coats are very, very thin. Paint on maybe 5
> coats, let it dry overnight, lightly hit it with 600 grit in case you
> picked up any bugs or whatnot. Do another 5 coats. Let it dry
> overnight, install on the car. In a week or two cut and polish if high
> gloss is desired.

I may have to do that with our 240D/3.0. Its hood has suddenly sprouted
many "puckering cracks" where the paint curls up on both sides of a
crack, exposing bare metal underneat. I'm not sure what that is from,
though.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: We are selling......

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

So did anyone receive this email from Trent that was not already on rustys 
mailing list?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 3, 2013, at 10:03 PM, clay  wrote:

> He mined the list and made a spam program.  WE are not going to be quit of 
> him until Ted Kosinski mails him a package
> 
> clay
> 
> On Sep 3, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote:
> 
>> 
>> thanks,
>> 
>> xx rick
>> Rick Hawkins
>> It looks like this will never end
>> 
>> received this email just now  and i've NEVER bought from Trent
>> 
>> xx rick hawkins
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Buymbparts 
>>> Date: September 3, 2013 8:46:12 PM EDT
>>> To: macj...@aol.com
>>> Subject: We are selling..
>>> Reply-To: buymbpa...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>> Buymbparts
>>> September 3, 2013
>>> Customer,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> TOM IS Back. Tom has come back to work for you at buyMBparts.
>>> We are here selling full time, and Tom has come back. His expertise will be 
>>> a HUGE asset for us. He is anxiously ready to get back at it.
>>> 
>>> Tom's direct phone line is 770-609-8795, He can also be reached on our toll 
>>> free line at 1-800-741-5252.
>>> 
>>> Give him a call and see how he's been.
>>> 
>>> I want to take this time to thank all of our loyal customers, We will 
>>> continue to strive to provide you the highest quality Genuine, OEM, OES 
>>> Mercedes Parts. We are looking forward to serving you.
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Trent Fiorini
>>> Buymbparts
>>> Save 15%
>>> For the month of September save an additional 15% on all Oil and Air 
>>> Filters to get your car ready for the fall season
>>> ( phone sales only )  Just mention this ad when ordering. Stock Up...
>>> Offer Expires: September 30.2013
>>> Forward this email
>>>
>>> This email was sent to macj...@aol.com by buymbpa...@gmail.com |
>>> Update Profile/Email Address | Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribe™ | 
>>> Privacy Policy.
>>> Buymbparts | 300 West miller road | Sterling | IL | 61081
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts BS

[G Mann]

In Desert Storm 1 the Iraq soldiers named that "Iron Rain" and it truly
instilled "shock and awe" to the highest degree.

Until you have been ground level anywhere near one of those deliveries, it
can't truly be appreciated.

I sleep better at night, thanks for all your service Wilton.

Grant...


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> WILTON wrote:
>
>> I could just call for a B-52 strike, you know.  What are those
>> coordinates, again?   ;<)
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: We are selling......

[Craig]

On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 20:03:46 -0700 clay  wrote:

> He mined the list and made a spam program.  WE are not going to be quit
> of him until Ted Kosinski mails him a package

No, likely not true. His emails are in the same format that Rusty used to
send out. He most likely got a customer list from Rusty. I got one from
him, too, just like I used to get from Rusty. No big deal. Unsubscribe is
easy.

Let's leave this mess of competing parts vendors completely alone.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

She wants whatever I want. Women are like children, they should be seen and not 
heard, right?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:56 PM, Rick Knoble  wrote:

> On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:36 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:
> 
>> I would like to have a multi hundred acre ranch where it is 14 miles from 
>> the entrance to my house.
> 
> 
> Yes and I want to hit the Powerball. (Guess I should play then, huh?)
> 
> What does your spouse want?
> 
> Rick
> Who knows firsthand 
> "A happy wife is a happy life"
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: We are selling......

[clay]

He mined the list and made a spam program.  WE are not going to be quit of him 
until Ted Kosinski mails him a package

clay

On Sep 3, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote:

> 
> thanks,
> 
> xx rick
> Rick Hawkins
> It looks like this will never end
> 
> received this email just now  and i've NEVER bought from Trent
> 
> xx rick hawkins
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Buymbparts 
>> Date: September 3, 2013 8:46:12 PM EDT
>> To: macj...@aol.com
>> Subject: We are selling..
>> Reply-To: buymbpa...@gmail.com
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Buymbparts
>> September 3, 2013
>> Customer,
>> 
>> 
>> TOM IS Back. Tom has come back to work for you at buyMBparts.
>> We are here selling full time, and Tom has come back. His expertise will be 
>> a HUGE asset for us. He is anxiously ready to get back at it.
>> 
>> Tom's direct phone line is 770-609-8795, He can also be reached on our toll 
>> free line at 1-800-741-5252.
>> 
>> Give him a call and see how he's been.
>> 
>> I want to take this time to thank all of our loyal customers, We will 
>> continue to strive to provide you the highest quality Genuine, OEM, OES 
>> Mercedes Parts. We are looking forward to serving you.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> 
>> Trent Fiorini
>> Buymbparts
>> Save 15% 
>> For the month of September save an additional 15% on all Oil and Air Filters 
>> to get your car ready for the fall season
>> ( phone sales only )  Just mention this ad when ordering. Stock Up...
>> Offer Expires: September 30.2013
>> Forward this email
>>  
>> This email was sent to macj...@aol.com by buymbpa...@gmail.com |
>> Update Profile/Email Address | Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribe™ | 
>> Privacy Policy.
>> Buymbparts | 300 West miller road | Sterling | IL | 61081
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Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins

[Rick Knoble]

On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:32 PM, "Craig"  wrote:

> Isn't that what you want? Why search some more?


I think Curt was implying it is easier to post his request and have me find it 
quickly, than him search and not find it, and be frustrated. Kind of like me 
looking for a decent video camera for taking YouTube videos. I could look for 
hours online, but why would I do that when I can ask "hey Curt, what's the best 
reasonably priced digital video camera?" And he can tell me, because he is 
talented in that field and already knows. 

Make any sense now? 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk at walmart

[clay]

Henny,

Desist from poking the troll under the bridge.  He is having his feelings hurt 
and I am growing tired of playing knight in scuffed up armor.

clay


On Sep 3, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:

> On his way back from the 160 mile cycle trip to walmart to buy herbal tea, 
> Gary takes a short cut across your place and falls into the mine shaft, 
> sealing it off forever and saving the day.
> http://worst-city.com/Atlantic-City/images/Fat-Girl-Guy-riding-bike-in-Atlantic-City.jpg
> 
> Hendrik
> who should be a script writer
> 
> On 04/09/13 09:41, G Mann wrote:
>> Gawd.. what a visual...
>> 
>> Sorry to burst your fantasy, but I do not keep rattlesnakes as pets.. They
>> present a clear and mortal danger to me at the Ranch. Should I be bitten,
>> due to the remote location, medical help and intervention is to far away.
>> 
>> Contrary to what you might think.. cutting the head off a rattlesnake does
>> not render it "safe".. I've had severed heads still strike after as long as
>> 45 minutes... with the capacity to deliver a lethal dose of venom... so..
>> should you encounter one... kill it and leave it.. resist the impulse to
>> "pick it up" cause it's dead...  They are also very territorial. If you
>> find one near your residence and have it removed.. it will find it's way
>> back within the next month..  When I first took the Ranch, I would capture
>> and remove any rattlesnake that came around the ranch house.. soon I
>> noticed what looked like the same snake [yes.. they all look alike, scary]
>> so I spray painted the ones captured.. sure enough.. they came back.. Since
>> then... I hang them on the fence and and bury the head, the coyotes or
>> vultures eat... nothing goes to waste.
>> 
>> Now.. how do we get Gary and the bicycle wrapped into the movie plot with
>> the mutant flying bat snakes and the sheilas with bad habits.. Help me out
>> here Hendrik... I see a "Cowboys and Aliens" remake in the works... ;))
>> 
>> Grant...
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Misbehaving email

[Allan Streib]

Proper mail clients will understand a message digest and allow you to
reply to individual messages within.  I'm guessing Yahoo doesn't, since
you have to copy and paste the bit of the digest into a new email (which
explains why there is no In-Reply-To, because technically it's not a
reply, it's a new message.

Your way sounds like *more* work to me... copy/paste the content,
copy/paste the subject, copy paste the To: address vs. just "reply"

Allan

Curt Raymond  writes:

> Has it not always been thus? I've always made my replies in the same manner 
> and I've been on this Okiebenz list since its inception.
>
> Other than moving from digest I can't see anything I could do that would make 
> life easier for you. Lets face it you're asking me to do more work to make 
> gmail (your choice) work for you not for me... If somebody could find a way 
> that maybe added only 1 or 2 steps to my process (copy from digest, paste 
> into new composition, add my comment and mail it out) I'd be willing to do 
> so. Switching to individual emails is a non-starter.
>
> -Curt
>
>
> Glad to see the Gary/Rusty/Trent triangle broken but, sad to be the new 
> whipping boy but if somebodys got to do it I'm here for you.

-- 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins

[dseretakis]

Weird. Restoration encompasses mechanical as well. Top notch restoration 
involves a much greater skills set than pure mechanical. Russell employs true 
artisans. Too bad it's under-appreciated!

Here in MA good Indy MB shops get 80-90 per hour.

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On Sep 3, 2013, at 10:34 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> restoration/body pays a lot less than mechanical.  the going rate for MB in
> atlanta is well over $100 an hour.  tire shops get over $100 an hour here
> in south florida
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 10:12 PM,  wrote:
> 
>> What is this $105 per hour bullshit?  World renowned restoration shops
>> like Paul Russell and Co. who work on 40 million dollar bugattis for Ralph
>> Lauren charge $85/hr!!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:59 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>> 
>>> just tell him that juanita will be very angry that he stole this job from
>>> jeb
>>> 
>>> juanita is jeb's wife.  she is the brains, brawn and bitch of the
>>> operation.  jeb just likes to turn a wrench.  if you walked in and said
>>> "jeb, can you put these brake pads on for me.  i'll give you a can of
>>> sardines" jeb would just say "oh, i rike sahdine.  thank you!"  whereas
>>> juanita will scream "so sahdine, you asshoe!  50 dollah!" and then curses
>>> would fly at you in some asian language
>>> 
>>> despite being good friends with jono, i'd always use jeb for any sort of
>>> work as either $50 or a can of sardines is a lot cheaper than that $105
>> an
>>> hour jono charges for labor (and this makes him cheap by atlanta mercedes
>>> standards.  sheesh!)
>>> 
>>> alternatively, whatever price he quotes you, exclaim "carlos is half of
>>> that!!" and see how long it takes him to figure out you've been coached
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
>>> 
 HaHa!  I'll mention that tomorrow morning...
 
 
 On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
 
> i told him that i sent you to jeb but jaime got you all confused on the
> matter
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Gary and Jaime.
>> 
>> I'll keep you posted.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:38 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>> 
>>> he says he's got a 300CD with known good climate control and has some
>> plan
>>> regarding that.  we didn't get into many details beyond that.  i do
 like
>>> that line filter idea, though, and mentioned he ought to look into
>> that
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
>>> 
 I spoke with Jonathan yesterday evening and we agreed to speak today
 to
 iron out details.  As of 10 minutes ago, he had all of the required
>> parts
 either in hand, or arriving tomorrow.  Car should be done Friday
>> morning.
 
 I could get very spoiled.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

[Craig]

On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 21:23:28 -0500 Peter Frederick 
wrote:

> Don't do this, you are likely to blow the diodes in the alternator by  
> running it without the battery connected!

What he said.

If you run the car with the battery disconnected, you are likely to
damage your alternator.


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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I would like to have a multi hundred acre ranch where it is 14 miles from the 
entrance to my house.

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On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:21 PM, Rick Knoble  wrote:

> On Sep 3, 2013, at 7:58 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:
> 
>> Know where I can buy a bunch of land and become a hermit hoarding junk cars?
> 
> 
> Uh..., Claremore, Oklahoma?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins

[Gary Hurst]

restoration/body pays a lot less than mechanical.  the going rate for MB in
atlanta is well over $100 an hour.  tire shops get over $100 an hour here
in south florida


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 10:12 PM,  wrote:

> What is this $105 per hour bullshit?  World renowned restoration shops
> like Paul Russell and Co. who work on 40 million dollar bugattis for Ralph
> Lauren charge $85/hr!!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:59 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>
> > just tell him that juanita will be very angry that he stole this job from
> > jeb
> >
> > juanita is jeb's wife.  she is the brains, brawn and bitch of the
> > operation.  jeb just likes to turn a wrench.  if you walked in and said
> > "jeb, can you put these brake pads on for me.  i'll give you a can of
> > sardines" jeb would just say "oh, i rike sahdine.  thank you!"  whereas
> > juanita will scream "so sahdine, you asshoe!  50 dollah!" and then curses
> > would fly at you in some asian language
> >
> > despite being good friends with jono, i'd always use jeb for any sort of
> > work as either $50 or a can of sardines is a lot cheaper than that $105
> an
> > hour jono charges for labor (and this makes him cheap by atlanta mercedes
> > standards.  sheesh!)
> >
> > alternatively, whatever price he quotes you, exclaim "carlos is half of
> > that!!" and see how long it takes him to figure out you've been coached
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
> >
> >> HaHa!  I'll mention that tomorrow morning...
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
> >>
> >>> i told him that i sent you to jeb but jaime got you all confused on the
> >>> matter
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
> >>>
>  Thanks Gary and Jaime.
> 
>  I'll keep you posted.
> 
> 
>  On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:38 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
> 
> > he says he's got a 300CD with known good climate control and has some
>  plan
> > regarding that.  we didn't get into many details beyond that.  i do
> >> like
> > that line filter idea, though, and mentioned he ought to look into
> that
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
> >
> >> I spoke with Jonathan yesterday evening and we agreed to speak today
> >> to
> >> iron out details.  As of 10 minutes ago, he had all of the required
>  parts
> >> either in hand, or arriving tomorrow.  Car should be done Friday
>  morning.
> >>
> >> I could get very spoiled.
> >>
> >> Jon
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins

[Craig]

On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 17:56:11 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
 wrote:

> Thats it, I'm done searching forever...
> 
> I tried Amazon and all I could get
> was http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005RUTVIK/ref=biss_dp_t_asn in a pack of
> 10 for $18 plus shipping.
> 
> I wouldn't mind buying 10 if I KNEW it would fit but this is me
> measuring an old dried out o-ring...

I am very confused.

Rick said,

> Here you go. 
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00858UPWW?ie=UTF8&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links

$3.56 ea with free shipping.

Isn't that what you want? Why search some more?


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Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I know he is in me and I believe I have talked to him a few times since he 
moved up there but I am not sure what the reason was and all that. I know they 
lost everything in a big flood so maybe that was the reason.

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On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:16 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

> So it looks like Cama is living around Portland, ME. I know that he's no 
> longer in the car business but does he still have an affair with Mercedes? Or 
> did he forget the marque altogether as it reminds him of his loss? I would be 
> interested in meeting him as he's local to me but I don't want to stir up bad 
> memories.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:48 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:
> 
>> So is he like Cama and just self taught or did he have formal training? Who 
>> is better Cama or Jono?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>> 
>>> he worked for bimby while working on cars at his home evenings and
>>> weekends (he's one of those 80 hour a week worker guys).  then he left
>>> bimby and started working with/for jimmy the greek.  then he left the greek
>>> for a similar arrangement with cama.  the building the greek was/is in is
>>> owned by jeb from thailand, another guy who works on cars 20 hours a day.
>>> (as an aside, jeb is quite good, conscientious and cheap.  if things get
>>> bogged down with jono for agne, he can use jeb, probably for a lot less
>>> money)  when i space opened in jeb's building , jono rented that .
>>> 
>>> he usually works with his dad and one or two hired assistants there.  the
>>> place is a real rat infested shithole in some super dismal industrial park
>>> but he still has far more business than he can handle.  he bought a super
>>> lovely building to set up his shop in, but he discovered that he can make a
>>> lot of money renting it instead as places are super cheap to buy but rents
>>> are still the same as they were when the places being rented cost 2 to 3
>>> times as much
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 What the deal with Jono anyway? He used to work for bimby a long time ago,
 then he started his shop. So did he used to work at a dealership service
 dept and go out on his own, or what? I know Jono but never really knew his
 story.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

[Peter Frederick]

Don't do this, you are likely to blow the diodes in the alternator by  
running it without the battery connected!


If you want to see if it charges the other battery, install the  
battery in the car.


If the battery boiled out, even one cell, either it was charging at  
far too high a voltage, which you can easily check, or the battery was  
defective.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk

[Rick Knoble]

On Sep 3, 2013, at 7:58 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:

> Know where I can buy a bunch of land and become a hermit hoarding junk cars?


Uh..., Claremore, Oklahoma?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: We are selling......

[Rick Knoble]

On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:01 PM, "Rick Hawkins Java"  wrote:

> It looks like this will never end


Sure it will (or can). 

> Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribe

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: We are selling......

[Mitch Haley]

Rick Hawkins Java wrote:


thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins
It looks like this will never end

received this email just now  and i've NEVER bought from Trent


But you've bought from Bimby, right?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

[Gerry Archer]

I do have heavy cables but won't be using them to start the 300D.  I'll 
start the 300D with its battery and then disconnect it and hook the 300D 
cables to the jumpers and the other end of the jumpers to the disconnected 
240D battery.  There will probably be a voltage drop but I should be able to 
see if the alternator is charging.  Does that make sense?

Gerry

From: "Michael Canfield" 

If you are saying you are going to use your jumper cables in between the
240 battery and the 300 cables and starter yhen you better have a big set
of cables.  Like welding cable.  Otherwise you will burn them up and not
answer your question.  Better to just swap out the batteries and see if 
the

issue follows the battery from the 300.

Mike
On Sep 3, 2013 2:21 PM, "Gerry Archer"  wrote:


That's a good idea, Richard.  I'll put the 240D and the 300D side by side
and jumper with all the cables off.  I know the 240D battery is good.
Batteries are both group 49.
Thanks,
Gerry

From: "Richard Hattaway" 
Like everybody else has said, please change the battery before you go to
all that trouble. You could even just use some jumper cables and clamp
another one in parallel to the toasted one to prove your point. Much 
easier

than messing with regulators and drill presses (c:

Thanks to Rick, Richard, and Loren for your advice; and to Fred for the
connector which arrived in good order. Going to wire it up and try it
again. If the connector wasn't the problem, will put a good regulator in
and try it. If that doesn't work, will chuck the 3 used alternators in 
the
drill press one at a time and try the half dozen regulators (hooked to 
the

12 volt shop battery) until I find a good combination. If "that" doesn't
work, I'll assume that the battery, (which had boiled out most of its 
water
in one cell), is at fault and get FLAPS to put in a new battery which 
they

agree to do at my option.

Gerrymostly talking to myself



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Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins

[dseretakis]

So it looks like Cama is living around Portland, ME. I know that he's no longer 
in the car business but does he still have an affair with Mercedes? Or did he 
forget the marque altogether as it reminds him of his loss? I would be 
interested in meeting him as he's local to me but I don't want to stir up bad 
memories.

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On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:48 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:

> So is he like Cama and just self taught or did he have formal training? Who 
> is better Cama or Jono?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 3, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
> 
>> he worked for bimby while working on cars at his home evenings and
>> weekends (he's one of those 80 hour a week worker guys).  then he left
>> bimby and started working with/for jimmy the greek.  then he left the greek
>> for a similar arrangement with cama.  the building the greek was/is in is
>> owned by jeb from thailand, another guy who works on cars 20 hours a day.
>> (as an aside, jeb is quite good, conscientious and cheap.  if things get
>> bogged down with jono for agne, he can use jeb, probably for a lot less
>> money)  when i space opened in jeb's building , jono rented that .
>> 
>> he usually works with his dad and one or two hired assistants there.  the
>> place is a real rat infested shithole in some super dismal industrial park
>> but he still has far more business than he can handle.  he bought a super
>> lovely building to set up his shop in, but he discovered that he can make a
>> lot of money renting it instead as places are super cheap to buy but rents
>> are still the same as they were when the places being rented cost 2 to 3
>> times as much
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>> 
>>> What the deal with Jono anyway? He used to work for bimby a long time ago,
>>> then he started his shop. So did he used to work at a dealership service
>>> dept and go out on his own, or what? I know Jono but never really knew his
>>> story.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 7:01 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>>> 
 he's on the wrong side of town though.  probably best to call him and ask
 him to recommend someone where you are.  he won't mind as he has far more
 work than he can possibly do anyway
 
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
 
> Thanks Jaime.  His name has been popping up on all the other internet
> searches as well.  I'll e-mail him tonight, and call tomorrow.
> 
> 
> On Sep 2, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
> 
>> For Mercedes repair in Atlanta, Jono is the man:
>> http://www.blueridgemb.com/
>> 
>> Jaime
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
>> 
>>> AC compressor seized today whilst driving in Atlanta.  This is the
> second
>>> Behr unit to seize on me this year.  Last fall, the clutch on the
> original
>>> compressor gave up the ghost so I ordered a new compressor (along with
>>> drier and expansion valve) from FCPEuro.  Lacking the time, I took it
> to a
>>> reputable shop with instructions to thoroughly flush the system as the
> PO
>>> had done a half-a** job of converting to R134.  It ran perfect for
>>> three
>>> weeks, at which point the compressor imploded...literally.  It had oil
>>> leaking out of it from three different places.
>>> 
>>> I got a replacement Behr ( and they sent a drier as well), took it to
>>> my
>>> normal mech (top-notch, and totally trustworty) with the same
> instructions:
>>> FLUSH, FLUSH and FLUSH.  It worked perfectly until that
>>> afternoon.approximately 8 weeks.  I heard the belts start to
>>> squeal,
>>> and immediately turned off the AC.  Got to a stopping point, popped
>>> the
>>> hood, and everything looked OK.  Tried to engage the AC while idling
> and it
>>> stopped the engine cold.  My daughter was with me so all of the words
>>> I
>>> wanted to say became, "Well, this is not good."
>>> 
>>> Sorry Garythis was before you were back on the list, and the
> original
>>> purchase was during the Rusty/Trent changeover.
>>> 
>>> So a couple of questions:
>>> 
>>> 1.  Anybody know of a good W123 mech on the south side of
> Atlanta,
>>> say College Park or East Point?  I am in training down here for the
>>> next
>>> 3.5 weeks and REALLY would like to have my AC working again.
>>> 
>>> 2. Failing that, anyone know of a good AC shop?
>>> 
>>> Enjoying HOTlanta
>>> 
>>> Jon
>>> 
>>> '85 300D
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins

[dseretakis]

What is this $105 per hour bullshit?  World renowned restoration shops like 
Paul Russell and Co. who work on 40 million dollar bugattis for Ralph Lauren 
charge $85/hr!!

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On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:59 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> just tell him that juanita will be very angry that he stole this job from
> jeb
> 
> juanita is jeb's wife.  she is the brains, brawn and bitch of the
> operation.  jeb just likes to turn a wrench.  if you walked in and said
> "jeb, can you put these brake pads on for me.  i'll give you a can of
> sardines" jeb would just say "oh, i rike sahdine.  thank you!"  whereas
> juanita will scream "so sahdine, you asshoe!  50 dollah!" and then curses
> would fly at you in some asian language
> 
> despite being good friends with jono, i'd always use jeb for any sort of
> work as either $50 or a can of sardines is a lot cheaper than that $105 an
> hour jono charges for labor (and this makes him cheap by atlanta mercedes
> standards.  sheesh!)
> 
> alternatively, whatever price he quotes you, exclaim "carlos is half of
> that!!" and see how long it takes him to figure out you've been coached
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
> 
>> HaHa!  I'll mention that tomorrow morning...
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>> 
>>> i told him that i sent you to jeb but jaime got you all confused on the
>>> matter
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks Gary and Jaime.
 
 I'll keep you posted.
 
 
 On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:38 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
 
> he says he's got a 300CD with known good climate control and has some
 plan
> regarding that.  we didn't get into many details beyond that.  i do
>> like
> that line filter idea, though, and mentioned he ought to look into that
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
> 
>> I spoke with Jonathan yesterday evening and we agreed to speak today
>> to
>> iron out details.  As of 10 minutes ago, he had all of the required
 parts
>> either in hand, or arriving tomorrow.  Car should be done Friday
 morning.
>> 
>> I could get very spoiled.
>> 
>> Jon
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[MBZ] more more trent

[Rick Hawkins Java]

and if you spin the street view around you can even see a bar!
thanks,

xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts BS

[Mitch Haley]

WILTON wrote:
I could just call for a B-52 strike, you know.  What are those 
coordinates, again?   ;<)


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[MBZ] more on trent

[Rick Hawkins Java]

if you street view

300 West miller road Sterling  IL 61081

i guess you can see trent's house!


thanks,

xx rick
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[MBZ] Fwd: We are selling......

[Rick Hawkins Java]

thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins
It looks like this will never end

received this email just now  and i've NEVER bought from Trent

xx rick hawkins
Begin forwarded message:


From: Buymbparts 
Date: September 3, 2013 8:46:12 PM EDT
To: macj...@aol.com
Subject: We are selling..
Reply-To: buymbpa...@gmail.com



Buymbparts
September 3, 2013
Customer,


TOM IS Back. Tom has come back to work for you at buyMBparts.
We are here selling full time, and Tom has come back. His expertise  
will be a HUGE asset for us. He is anxiously ready to get back at it.


Tom's direct phone line is 770-609-8795, He can also be reached on  
our toll free line at 1-800-741-5252.


Give him a call and see how he's been.

I want to take this time to thank all of our loyal customers, We  
will continue to strive to provide you the highest quality Genuine,  
OEM, OES Mercedes Parts. We are looking forward to serving you.


Sincerely,


Trent Fiorini
Buymbparts
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Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins

[Gary Hurst]

just tell him that juanita will be very angry that he stole this job from
jeb

juanita is jeb's wife.  she is the brains, brawn and bitch of the
operation.  jeb just likes to turn a wrench.  if you walked in and said
"jeb, can you put these brake pads on for me.  i'll give you a can of
sardines" jeb would just say "oh, i rike sahdine.  thank you!"  whereas
juanita will scream "so sahdine, you asshoe!  50 dollah!" and then curses
would fly at you in some asian language

despite being good friends with jono, i'd always use jeb for any sort of
work as either $50 or a can of sardines is a lot cheaper than that $105 an
hour jono charges for labor (and this makes him cheap by atlanta mercedes
standards.  sheesh!)

alternatively, whatever price he quotes you, exclaim "carlos is half of
that!!" and see how long it takes him to figure out you've been coached



On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:

> HaHa!  I'll mention that tomorrow morning...
>
>
> On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>
> > i told him that i sent you to jeb but jaime got you all confused on the
> > matter
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Gary and Jaime.
> >>
> >> I'll keep you posted.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:38 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
> >>
> >>> he says he's got a 300CD with known good climate control and has some
> >> plan
> >>> regarding that.  we didn't get into many details beyond that.  i do
> like
> >>> that line filter idea, though, and mentioned he ought to look into that
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
> >>>
>  I spoke with Jonathan yesterday evening and we agreed to speak today
> to
>  iron out details.  As of 10 minutes ago, he had all of the required
> >> parts
>  either in hand, or arriving tomorrow.  Car should be done Friday
> >> morning.
> 
>  I could get very spoiled.
> 
>  Jon
> 
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk at walmart

[Hendrik and Fay]

On his way back from the 160 mile cycle trip to walmart to buy herbal 
tea, Gary takes a short cut across your place and falls into the mine 
shaft, sealing it off forever and saving the day.

http://worst-city.com/Atlantic-City/images/Fat-Girl-Guy-riding-bike-in-Atlantic-City.jpg

Hendrik
who should be a script writer

On 04/09/13 09:41, G Mann wrote:

Gawd.. what a visual...

Sorry to burst your fantasy, but I do not keep rattlesnakes as pets.. They
present a clear and mortal danger to me at the Ranch. Should I be bitten,
due to the remote location, medical help and intervention is to far away.

Contrary to what you might think.. cutting the head off a rattlesnake does
not render it "safe".. I've had severed heads still strike after as long as
45 minutes... with the capacity to deliver a lethal dose of venom... so..
should you encounter one... kill it and leave it.. resist the impulse to
"pick it up" cause it's dead...  They are also very territorial. If you
find one near your residence and have it removed.. it will find it's way
back within the next month..  When I first took the Ranch, I would capture
and remove any rattlesnake that came around the ranch house.. soon I
noticed what looked like the same snake [yes.. they all look alike, scary]
so I spray painted the ones captured.. sure enough.. they came back.. Since
then... I hang them on the fence and and bury the head, the coyotes or
vultures eat... nothing goes to waste.

Now.. how do we get Gary and the bicycle wrapped into the movie plot with
the mutant flying bat snakes and the sheilas with bad habits.. Help me out
here Hendrik... I see a "Cowboys and Aliens" remake in the works... ;))

Grant...





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[MBZ] OT Android Email

[rickknoble]

I would love to use my tablet for email more often, but I have no clue how to 
do quoted text in replying to emails. Does anyone have any tips? I now know how 
Max struggled with email on his Android phone. Guess I'll be sticking with the 
iPhone or maybe a BlackBerry Z10.


Rick Knoble

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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk at walmart

[Fmiser]

> > G Mann wrote:
> >
> > When I first took the Ranch, I
> > would capture and remove any rattlesnake that came around the
> > ranch house.

> Curt wrote:
> 
> I've never understood "relocating" wildlife. What most people are
> doing is making their nuisance wildlife somebody else's problem.

Maybe where you live - but Grant could move that rattlesnake 14
miles [22 km] away from the house and still it wouldn't be someone
else's problem as it would still be on his land.

East vs west.

-- Philip, in between the two

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Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins

[Jon Agne]

HaHa!  I'll mention that tomorrow morning...


On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

> i told him that i sent you to jeb but jaime got you all confused on the
> matter
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Gary and Jaime.
>> 
>> I'll keep you posted.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:38 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>> 
>>> he says he's got a 300CD with known good climate control and has some
>> plan
>>> regarding that.  we didn't get into many details beyond that.  i do like
>>> that line filter idea, though, and mentioned he ought to look into that
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
>>> 
 I spoke with Jonathan yesterday evening and we agreed to speak today to
 iron out details.  As of 10 minutes ago, he had all of the required
>> parts
 either in hand, or arriving tomorrow.  Car should be done Friday
>> morning.
 
 I could get very spoiled.
 
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk

[Dan Penoff]

I recall driving from Calgary to Edmonton one time. I noticed a jet traversing 
the sky from the eastern horizon. I timed its traversal of the sky to the 
western horizon.

Took nearly 40 minutes.

Now that is wide open spaces!

Dan

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On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:35 PM, clay  wrote:

> Wyoming gave me the willies.  Counted 129 miles between trees on I-80.  I do 
> like quiet, wide open spaces, but some places are just a bit much.  Give me a 
> reasonable 20 miles between watering holes.  That way I can walk there in a 
> day should the car fail.
> 
> clay
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 3, 2013, at 1:46 PM, G Mann wrote:
> 
>> Winnemucca, NV is a cultural hot spot... hahahaha..  Their symphony season
>> is, however, short.
>> 
>> Quite true Gary.. the West intimidates those from the East who have only
>> been surrounded by asphalt and grid induced dependence on someone else
>> supplying what you need to survive.
>> 
>> It truly takes a different attitude to understand just how wide open spaces
>> and quiet can exist.  Much less be enjoyed.
>> 
>> A trip to get groceries from the Ranch is 60 miles.. so plan ahead.. for
>> example.
>> 
>> Grant...
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>> 
>>> the west frightens me.  it is so huge and desolate.  i am unprepared for
>>> the environment
>>> 
>>> one day, i was running low on gas.  i pulled into the nearest town,
>>> winnemucca, NV.  the prices appalled me.  i certainly wasn't going to pay
>>> that and left.  care to guess how far the next gas station is?
>>> 
>>> i was driving on a back road in the desert another time and i saw a marked
>>> dirt road.  i mean it has to go somewhere, right? it went on and on and on
>>> and on and on and on and on and on.  and then it just stopped.
>>> 
>>> it got dark and all you could see was a million coyote eyes
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:28 PM, G Mann  wrote:
>>> 
 Well.. from drunks to mining.. that's a shift.. hah
 
 Andrew.. mine is in Arizona and once part of the largest gold production
 mining group of mines in USA.  All were closed down at WW2.. or before..
 
 Rich,  If the ex wife touched it.. there would not be rattlesnakes in it
 still .. they would have left in professional respect.. lol..   The Ranch
 has a number of mines on it.. none currently working or expected to be.
>>> I
 don't want a mining operation further disturbing the place, so won't
>>> happen
 in my lifetime.. I get approached often by investment types wanting to
>>> tear
 big holes and make big messes with promises of riches.. not interested..
 peace and quiet are worth more.
 
 The Ranch is about the size of Long Island.. only with no people.. I like
 it that way.  Sign on front gate reads "Use of deadly force authorized
 beyond this point"... "Access by invitation only" so the welcome mat is
 out.. ;)
 
 If you walk in, pack a lunch.. it's 14 miles to the house from the front
 gate, only 106 F here today.. might take water also..
 
 Grant...
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Rich Thomas <
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
 
> This could be a situation where his wife got the mine...
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> On 9/3/13 2:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> 
>> Where is this mine shaft again?
>> 
>> Andrew,
>> Who is a recovering HardrockGeologist
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:14 PM, G Mann  wrote:
>> 
>> Bats and blind rattlesnakes.  Plenty of the first, just enough of the
>>> last
>>> to really put the fear of God in you. They are apparently a colony of
>>> snakes that found their way in, can't find their way out, and have
 plenty
>>> of feed on the bats. They have been underground for so many
>>> generations
>>> they are all blind.. and truly aggressive.  Nasty biteys, I think it
>>> would
>>> be in OZ language..
>>> 
>>> Care for a walkabout? hehehehe
>>> 
>>> It's an old silver / gold mine.. shut down since 1920's, opened
>>> around
>>> 1870
>>> or so.. produced a lot of value, still plenty there, just would take
>>> a
>>> billion in legal fees to ever open it again. It's all old style hard
 rock
>>> tunnel mining... Head frame and elevator car type entry .. straight
 down
>>> vertical shaft, the equipment is long gone and stripped out.  Came
>>> with
>>> the
>>> property.  They got the gold.. I got the hole.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for asking.
>>> 
>>> Grant...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Hendrik and Fay 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So whatcha mining there Grant? Gold? Silver? Diamonds?
 
 Hendrik
 who does not have a mine in the backyard
 
 
 On 03/09/13 10:49, G Mann wrote:
 
 Hendrik,
> 
> You pick the best spots

Re: [MBZ] OT: Misbehaving email

[Fmiser]

> > > Allan wrote:
> > > 
> > > Curt I wonder if you're aware that whatever you're using for
> > > email (Yahoo web mail?) does not include a proper In-Reply-To
> > > header so that every reply breaks the thread that you're
> > > replying to.

> > Fmiser wrote:
> >
> > It also doesn't use ">" for previous post quoting.  My client
> > makes use of those to color code the message making it easier
> > to follow the replies.

> Curt wrote:
> 
> Which is why I always top post.

I would consider that to be changing from one poor choice to
another poor choice.  But I've said it all before, and I don't have
anything more compelling than what I've said before so I really
doubt I'll get Curt to change his mind. *smiles*

> Just for you Philip, I added the > below, don't get used to it.

Heh!  *grin*  Thanks - but you missed and added Allen's post has
the same quantity of ">"s as my part.  But I truly appreciate the
effort!  

In summary, I have chosen to put extra effort into making my posts
as clear and concise as practical - both for now and for the
archive.  Quotes, inline reply, delete extra content and footers,
etc. But that is _my_ choice.  I'm well aware that others will make
other choices.   I am also aware others may find my posts just as
annoying as I find top-posted, untrimmed replies...

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins

[Gary Hurst]

i told him that i sent you to jeb but jaime got you all confused on the
matter


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:

> Thanks Gary and Jaime.
>
> I'll keep you posted.
>
>
> On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:38 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>
> > he says he's got a 300CD with known good climate control and has some
> plan
> > regarding that.  we didn't get into many details beyond that.  i do like
> > that line filter idea, though, and mentioned he ought to look into that
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
> >
> >> I spoke with Jonathan yesterday evening and we agreed to speak today to
> >> iron out details.  As of 10 minutes ago, he had all of the required
> parts
> >> either in hand, or arriving tomorrow.  Car should be done Friday
> morning.
> >>
> >> I could get very spoiled.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

[Fmiser]

> Gerry wrote:
> 
> Can someone tell me where the wire from the buss to the battery
> connects to the positive battery cable so I can check it's
> continuity and clean the connection?

Better - or more accurate - than measuring continuity is to measure
voltage drop.  After starting the engine (so the battery needs a
bit of charging) measure the voltage with one lead on the battery
"+" terminal and the other on the big wire at the alternator.  If
there is more than 0.25 V drop, it's worth a closer look.

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Re: [MBZ] Am I retarded?

[Curt Raymond]

Sounds like a good excuse to do a roller paint job. If you're going to take it 
off its very easy. 1 quart of Rustoleum, 3 or 4 foam (FOAM, not nap) rollers, a 
quart of mineral spirits, something to mix in and you're on your way. The hood 
on my '83 240D was GREAT from 20 feet and that was a white car. I've got a lot 
more experience now and could do a better job in much less time.

Tip: The paint will flash dry fast, you can paint a new coat on every 10 
minutes or less. The coats are very, very thin. Paint on maybe 5 coats, let it 
dry overnight, lightly hit it with 600 grit in case you picked up any bugs or 
whatnot. Do another 5 coats. Let it dry overnight, install on the car. In a 
week or two cut and polish if high gloss is desired.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 17:52:54 -0700
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The boogers have already eaten what clear may have been on the hood.  If it 
goes poorly, I have told the owner that I will cover a maaco respray of the 
hood.  Pretty hard to screw up black I am guessing.

clay
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Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Good luck Jon!


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:

> Thanks Gary and Jaime.
>
> I'll keep you posted.
>
>
> On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:38 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>
> > he says he's got a 300CD with known good climate control and has some
> plan
> > regarding that.  we didn't get into many details beyond that.  i do like
> > that line filter idea, though, and mentioned he ought to look into that
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
> >
> >> I spoke with Jonathan yesterday evening and we agreed to speak today to
> >> iron out details.  As of 10 minutes ago, he had all of the required
> parts
> >> either in hand, or arriving tomorrow.  Car should be done Friday
> morning.
> >>
> >> I could get very spoiled.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins

[Jon Agne]

Thanks Gary and Jaime.

I'll keep you posted.


On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:38 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

> he says he's got a 300CD with known good climate control and has some plan
> regarding that.  we didn't get into many details beyond that.  i do like
> that line filter idea, though, and mentioned he ought to look into that
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
> 
>> I spoke with Jonathan yesterday evening and we agreed to speak today to
>> iron out details.  As of 10 minutes ago, he had all of the required parts
>> either in hand, or arriving tomorrow.  Car should be done Friday morning.
>> 
>> I could get very spoiled.
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I too would prefer to live way out in the middle of nowhere, just go to town 
once a week, or once a month even

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 3, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> I would love to live in the West, but the wife would never approve. She wants 
> neighbors on either side and shopping within a few miles.  She likes to visit 
> and can tolerate some isolation for a short time, but not on a permanent 
> basis...
> 
> Dan 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Sep 3, 2013, at 4:52 PM, G Mann  wrote:
> 
>> 164 mile round trip to WalMart here... but.. the neighborhood is quiet... ;)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>> 
>>> to make the comparison to urban living, i have 2 major supermarkets and a
>>> walmart within a quarter mile of where i live
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:46 PM, G Mann  wrote:
>>> 
 Winnemucca, NV is a cultural hot spot... hahahaha..  Their symphony
>>> season
 is, however, short.
 
 Quite true Gary.. the West intimidates those from the East who have only
 been surrounded by asphalt and grid induced dependence on someone else
 supplying what you need to survive.
 
 It truly takes a different attitude to understand just how wide open
>>> spaces
 and quiet can exist.  Much less be enjoyed.
 
 A trip to get groceries from the Ranch is 60 miles.. so plan ahead.. for
 example.
 
 Grant...
 
 

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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

So I have not been following this too close, so you live on az and have a bunch 
if land, so how much land do you have? Know where I can buy a bunch of land and 
become a hermit hoarding junk cars?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 3, 2013, at 3:50 PM, G Mann  wrote:

> There you go.. adapt and overcome. ;)
> 
> AZ list fest?  Better wait for winter.. you might enjoy it more.. haha..
> ground temp today on the laser thermometer just measured 154F...
> 
> Parking is limited ... any more than 300 would fill the front yard.. I
> think?
> 
> Grant...
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
> 
>> exactly!
>> 
>> i'd have run out of fuel in the middle of the desert way off the interstate
>> (as opposed to the first time when i did it on I-80) had those 2 spanish
>> speaking indians not had a pump in front of their house!
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>> 
>>> What's with all the dogs, right Gary?
>>> 
>>> (Private coyote joke)
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>>> 
 the west frightens me.  it is so huge and desolate.  i am unprepared
>> for
 the environment
 
 one day, i was running low on gas.  i pulled into the nearest town,
 winnemucca, NV.  the prices appalled me.  i certainly wasn't going to
>> pay
 that and left.  care to guess how far the next gas station is?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Misbehaving email

[MG]

Fmiser wrote:

MG wrote:

Yes I do have the option to see/get sent my own posts set to yes 
in the user options. It just gets ignored by the server for some 
reason.


You could try signing twice.  Use one for posting and set it to
"receive no eamils" and use the other for reading.  Might work...

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Re: [MBZ] Wilton's car

[clay]

Are there not some upgrades to electrical beasties related to engines and 
transmissions going from the 300SDL 603 to the 350SDL 603?

clay

On Sep 3, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> First thing I would do is pull the injectors then see if it will turn over, 
> if so then pull the head and fix it. If not you can swap the while 
> engine/trans over if you want but would be better off sticking with the 3.5 
> if possible.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 3, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Tim Crone  wrote:
> 
>> Not yet, I am going to skip work and go down Thursday or Friday.  I will
>> have two 126s for a while so stop by when you visit your in-laws, or put in
>> some requests so I pull what you want before the scrap man comes.
>> 
>> Generally, the plan is to do a motor swap, the 603 from my 300SDL into
>> Wilton`s 350.  I hope that the transmission is the same?  Or else the whole
>> thing is going in. :)
>> 
>> Other than that I am curious about the condition of Wilton's engine, can
>> anyone recommend any diagnostics?  Seems a shame to scrap it if it is easy
>> to fix, but I also don't want to blow a weekend troubleshooting only to
>> wind up tossing it anyway.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Tim
>> On Sep 3, 2013 9:36 AM, "Rich Thomas" 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> So did Tim get it?  Wonder what he is going to do with his heap?  I need
>>> some 126 parts, maybe he can pick a few before it goes to the knacker?
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9/2/13 9:11 PM, WILTON wrote:
>>> 
 Wilton's 126 has been committed to a fine gentleman who plans to tow it
 about 82 miles NW to Chapel Hill, NC, and put a 603.960 in it.
 
 Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins

[Curt Raymond]

Thats it, I'm done searching forever...

I tried Amazon and all I could get was 
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005RUTVIK/ref=biss_dp_t_asn in a pack of 10 for $18 
plus shipping.

I wouldn't mind buying 10 if I KNEW it would fit but this is me measuring an 
old dried out o-ring...

-Curt

Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 19:25:40 -0500
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On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:36 AM, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:

> Rick is the quick search MASTER.
> 
> Now find me an oring thats 26mm x 19mm x 3.5mm that I don't have to buy in a 
> pack of 10 so I can fix my floor jack. :)


Here you go. 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00858UPWW?ie=UTF8&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links

Thank you for the compliment. I think Mitch Haley
does a fine job on searches too.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Am I retarded?

[clay]

The boogers have already eaten what clear may have been on the hood.  If it 
goes poorly, I have told the owner that I will cover a maaco respray of the 
hood.  Pretty hard to screw up black I am guessing.

clay

On Sep 3, 2013, at 5:20 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Just be careful as it might be clear coated. The older cars were not but the 
> newer ones are and I don't know when they started.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:17 PM, clay  wrote:
> 
>> do not say it!
>> 
>> Hood on the SE has suffered pine drippings that ate through the paint in 
>> areas.  Hood looks like a teenagers face, all pock marked.  Black car and 
>> the damage areas are stark white and stand out.  I was able to clay the 
>> debris, but that did not reduce the dimensionality of the damage.  SO
>> 
>> I pulled out the 2000 wet sanding pad and will be working up to 6000 grit 
>> before I start using a paste polish system to restore gloss.  
>> 
>> Was this not a smart idea?  Been raining too hard today to get beyond 2k, so 
>> will hold off until I am not drenched (though it does make sanding detritus 
>> flow)  Soaker setting on the hose provides good flow, just too much out of 
>> the sky to be happy outside.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk at walmart

[Curt Raymond]

I've never understood "relocating" wildlife. What most people are doing is 
making their nuisance wildlife somebody else's problem.
I've been having an amusing discussion on Facebook with a friend who keeps 
saying things like "we moved our raccoon to the country" to which I reply "We 
made the raccoon somebody else's problem". I contend in those cases a pellet 
gun is the best answer. The raccoon quickly learns that turning over my garbage 
cans is a bad idea that makes his ass hurt and moves on to somebody else who 
gives him a free ride to somebody else's house.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 17:11:32 -0700
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Gawd.. what a visual...

Sorry to burst your fantasy, but I do not keep rattlesnakes as pets.. They
present a clear and mortal danger to me at the Ranch. Should I be bitten,
due to the remote location, medical help and intervention is to far away.

Contrary to what you might think.. cutting the head off a rattlesnake does
not render it "safe".. I've had severed heads still strike after as long as
45 minutes... with the capacity to deliver a lethal dose of venom... so..
should you encounter one... kill it and leave it.. resist the impulse to
"pick it up" cause it's dead...  They are also very territorial. If you
find one near your residence and have it removed.. it will find it's way
back within the next month..  When I first took the Ranch, I would capture
and remove any rattlesnake that came around the ranch house.. soon I
noticed what looked like the same snake [yes.. they all look alike, scary]
so I spray painted the ones captured.. sure enough.. they came back.. Since
then... I hang them on the fence and and bury the head, the coyotes or
vultures eat... nothing goes to waste.

Now.. how do we get Gary and the bicycle wrapped into the movie plot with
the mutant flying bat snakes and the sheilas with bad habits.. Help me out
here Hendrik... I see a "Cowboys and Aliens" remake in the works... ;))

Grant...
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Re: [MBZ] Wilton's car

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

First thing I would do is pull the injectors then see if it will turn over, if 
so then pull the head and fix it. If not you can swap the while engine/trans 
over if you want but would be better off sticking with the 3.5 if possible.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 3, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Tim Crone  wrote:

> Not yet, I am going to skip work and go down Thursday or Friday.  I will
> have two 126s for a while so stop by when you visit your in-laws, or put in
> some requests so I pull what you want before the scrap man comes.
> 
> Generally, the plan is to do a motor swap, the 603 from my 300SDL into
> Wilton`s 350.  I hope that the transmission is the same?  Or else the whole
> thing is going in. :)
> 
> Other than that I am curious about the condition of Wilton's engine, can
> anyone recommend any diagnostics?  Seems a shame to scrap it if it is easy
> to fix, but I also don't want to blow a weekend troubleshooting only to
> wind up tossing it anyway.
> 
> Best,
> Tim
> On Sep 3, 2013 9:36 AM, "Rich Thomas" 
> wrote:
> 
>> So did Tim get it?  Wonder what he is going to do with his heap?  I need
>> some 126 parts, maybe he can pick a few before it goes to the knacker?
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/2/13 9:11 PM, WILTON wrote:
>> 
>>> Wilton's 126 has been committed to a fine gentleman who plans to tow it
>>> about 82 miles NW to Chapel Hill, NC, and put a 603.960 in it.
>>> 
>>> Wilton
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

So is he like Cama and just self taught or did he have formal training? Who is 
better Cama or Jono?

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On Sep 3, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> he worked for bimby while working on cars at his home evenings and
> weekends (he's one of those 80 hour a week worker guys).  then he left
> bimby and started working with/for jimmy the greek.  then he left the greek
> for a similar arrangement with cama.  the building the greek was/is in is
> owned by jeb from thailand, another guy who works on cars 20 hours a day.
> (as an aside, jeb is quite good, conscientious and cheap.  if things get
> bogged down with jono for agne, he can use jeb, probably for a lot less
> money)  when i space opened in jeb's building , jono rented that .
> 
> he usually works with his dad and one or two hired assistants there.  the
> place is a real rat infested shithole in some super dismal industrial park
> but he still has far more business than he can handle.  he bought a super
> lovely building to set up his shop in, but he discovered that he can make a
> lot of money renting it instead as places are super cheap to buy but rents
> are still the same as they were when the places being rented cost 2 to 3
> times as much
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> 
>> What the deal with Jono anyway? He used to work for bimby a long time ago,
>> then he started his shop. So did he used to work at a dealership service
>> dept and go out on his own, or what? I know Jono but never really knew his
>> story.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 7:01 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>> 
>>> he's on the wrong side of town though.  probably best to call him and ask
>>> him to recommend someone where you are.  he won't mind as he has far more
>>> work than he can possibly do anyway
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks Jaime.  His name has been popping up on all the other internet
 searches as well.  I'll e-mail him tonight, and call tomorrow.
 
 
 On Sep 2, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
 
> For Mercedes repair in Atlanta, Jono is the man:
> http://www.blueridgemb.com/
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
> 
>> AC compressor seized today whilst driving in Atlanta.  This is the
 second
>> Behr unit to seize on me this year.  Last fall, the clutch on the
 original
>> compressor gave up the ghost so I ordered a new compressor (along with
>> drier and expansion valve) from FCPEuro.  Lacking the time, I took it
 to a
>> reputable shop with instructions to thoroughly flush the system as the
 PO
>> had done a half-a** job of converting to R134.  It ran perfect for
>> three
>> weeks, at which point the compressor imploded...literally.  It had oil
>> leaking out of it from three different places.
>> 
>> I got a replacement Behr ( and they sent a drier as well), took it to
>> my
>> normal mech (top-notch, and totally trustworty) with the same
 instructions:
>> FLUSH, FLUSH and FLUSH.  It worked perfectly until that
>> afternoon.approximately 8 weeks.  I heard the belts start to
>> squeal,
>> and immediately turned off the AC.  Got to a stopping point, popped
>> the
>> hood, and everything looked OK.  Tried to engage the AC while idling
 and it
>> stopped the engine cold.  My daughter was with me so all of the words
>> I
>> wanted to say became, "Well, this is not good."
>> 
>> Sorry Garythis was before you were back on the list, and the
 original
>> purchase was during the Rusty/Trent changeover.
>> 
>> So a couple of questions:
>> 
>>  1.  Anybody know of a good W123 mech on the south side of
 Atlanta,
>> say College Park or East Point?  I am in training down here for the
>> next
>> 3.5 weeks and REALLY would like to have my AC working again.
>> 
>>  2. Failing that, anyone know of a good AC shop?
>> 
>> Enjoying HOTlanta
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk at walmart

[Gary Hurst]

i sometimes also where a mexican palm cowboy stetson style hat as well.


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 8:11 PM, G Mann  wrote:

> Gawd.. what a visual...
>
> Sorry to burst your fantasy, but I do not keep rattlesnakes as pets.. They
> present a clear and mortal danger to me at the Ranch. Should I be bitten,
> due to the remote location, medical help and intervention is to far away.
>
> Contrary to what you might think.. cutting the head off a rattlesnake does
> not render it "safe".. I've had severed heads still strike after as long as
> 45 minutes... with the capacity to deliver a lethal dose of venom... so..
> should you encounter one... kill it and leave it.. resist the impulse to
> "pick it up" cause it's dead...  They are also very territorial. If you
> find one near your residence and have it removed.. it will find it's way
> back within the next month..  When I first took the Ranch, I would capture
> and remove any rattlesnake that came around the ranch house.. soon I
> noticed what looked like the same snake [yes.. they all look alike, scary]
> so I spray painted the ones captured.. sure enough.. they came back.. Since
> then... I hang them on the fence and and bury the head, the coyotes or
> vultures eat... nothing goes to waste.
>
> Now.. how do we get Gary and the bicycle wrapped into the movie plot with
> the mutant flying bat snakes and the sheilas with bad habits.. Help me out
> here Hendrik... I see a "Cowboys and Aliens" remake in the works... ;))
>
> Grant...
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Hendrik and Fay  wrote:
>
> > I look forward to seeing you two on the people of walmart website.
> > Gary with a bicycle stuck between his butt checks and Grant with his pet
> > rattlesnake.
> >
> > Hendrik
> > who once again might need to duck and cover
> >
> > On 04/09/13 06:22, G Mann wrote:
> >
> >> 164 mile round trip to WalMart here... but.. the neighborhood is
> quiet...
> >> ;)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Gary Hurst 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>  to make the comparison to urban living, i have 2 major supermarkets
> and a
> >>> walmart within a quarter mile of where i live
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk

[clay]

Beyond the range of a .22 is close enough for me to have neighbors.  That way I 
will have to use the scope, and my aim is not good that far out anyway.

clay


On Sep 3, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

> I would love to live in the West, but the wife would never approve. She wants 
> neighbors on either side and shopping within a few miles.  She likes to visit 
> and can tolerate some isolation for a short time, but not on a permanent 
> basis...
> 
> Dan 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Sep 3, 2013, at 4:52 PM, G Mann  wrote:
> 
>> 164 mile round trip to WalMart here... but.. the neighborhood is quiet... ;)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>> 
>>> to make the comparison to urban living, i have 2 major supermarkets and a
>>> walmart within a quarter mile of where i live
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:46 PM, G Mann  wrote:
>>> 
 Winnemucca, NV is a cultural hot spot... hahahaha..  Their symphony
>>> season
 is, however, short.
 
 Quite true Gary.. the West intimidates those from the East who have only
 been surrounded by asphalt and grid induced dependence on someone else
 supplying what you need to survive.
 
 It truly takes a different attitude to understand just how wide open
>>> spaces
 and quiet can exist.  Much less be enjoyed.
 
 A trip to get groceries from the Ranch is 60 miles.. so plan ahead.. for
 example.
 
 Grant...
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Gary Hurst 
>>> wrote:
 
> the west frightens me.  it is so huge and desolate.  i am unprepared
>>> for
> the environment
> 
> one day, i was running low on gas.  i pulled into the nearest town,
> winnemucca, NV.  the prices appalled me.  i certainly wasn't going to
>>> pay
> that and left.  care to guess how far the next gas station is?
> 
> i was driving on a back road in the desert another time and i saw a
 marked
> dirt road.  i mean it has to go somewhere, right? it went on and on and
 on
> and on and on and on and on and on.  and then it just stopped.
> 
> it got dark and all you could see was a million coyote eyes
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:28 PM, G Mann  wrote:
> 
>> Well.. from drunks to mining.. that's a shift.. hah
>> 
>> Andrew.. mine is in Arizona and once part of the largest gold
 production
>> mining group of mines in USA.  All were closed down at WW2.. or
 before..
>> 
>> Rich,  If the ex wife touched it.. there would not be rattlesnakes in
 it
>> still .. they would have left in professional respect.. lol..   The
 Ranch
>> has a number of mines on it.. none currently working or expected to
>>> be.
> I
>> don't want a mining operation further disturbing the place, so won't
> happen
>> in my lifetime.. I get approached often by investment types wanting
>>> to
> tear
>> big holes and make big messes with promises of riches.. not
 interested..
>> peace and quiet are worth more.
>> 
>> The Ranch is about the size of Long Island.. only with no people.. I
 like
>> it that way.  Sign on front gate reads "Use of deadly force
>>> authorized
>> beyond this point"... "Access by invitation only" so the welcome mat
>>> is
>> out.. ;)
>> 
>> If you walk in, pack a lunch.. it's 14 miles to the house from the
 front
>> gate, only 106 F here today.. might take water also..
>> 
>> Grant...
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Rich Thomas <
>> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> This could be a situation where his wife got the mine...
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9/3/13 2:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>>> 
 Where is this mine shaft again?
 
 Andrew,
 Who is a recovering HardrockGeologist
 
 On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:14 PM, G Mann 
>>> wrote:
 
 Bats and blind rattlesnakes.  Plenty of the first, just enough of
 the
> last
> to really put the fear of God in you. They are apparently a
>>> colony
 of
> snakes that found their way in, can't find their way out, and
>>> have
>> plenty
> of feed on the bats. They have been underground for so many
> generations
> they are all blind.. and truly aggressive.  Nasty biteys, I think
 it
> would
> be in OZ language..
> 
> Care for a walkabout? hehehehe
> 
> It's an old silver / gold mine.. shut down since 1920's, opened
> around
> 1870
> or so.. produced a lot of value, still plenty there, just would
 take
> a
> billion in legal fees to ever open it again. It's all old style
 hard
>> rock
> tunnel mining... Head frame and elevator car type entry ..
>>> straight
>> down
> vertical 

Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins

[Gary Hurst]

he says he's got a 300CD with known good climate control and has some plan
regarding that.  we didn't get into many details beyond that.  i do like
that line filter idea, though, and mentioned he ought to look into that


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:

> I spoke with Jonathan yesterday evening and we agreed to speak today to
> iron out details.  As of 10 minutes ago, he had all of the required parts
> either in hand, or arriving tomorrow.  Car should be done Friday morning.
>
> I could get very spoiled.
>
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk

[clay]

Wyoming gave me the willies.  Counted 129 miles between trees on I-80.  I do 
like quiet, wide open spaces, but some places are just a bit much.  Give me a 
reasonable 20 miles between watering holes.  That way I can walk there in a day 
should the car fail.

clay



On Sep 3, 2013, at 1:46 PM, G Mann wrote:

> Winnemucca, NV is a cultural hot spot... hahahaha..  Their symphony season
> is, however, short.
> 
> Quite true Gary.. the West intimidates those from the East who have only
> been surrounded by asphalt and grid induced dependence on someone else
> supplying what you need to survive.
> 
> It truly takes a different attitude to understand just how wide open spaces
> and quiet can exist.  Much less be enjoyed.
> 
> A trip to get groceries from the Ranch is 60 miles.. so plan ahead.. for
> example.
> 
> Grant...
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
> 
>> the west frightens me.  it is so huge and desolate.  i am unprepared for
>> the environment
>> 
>> one day, i was running low on gas.  i pulled into the nearest town,
>> winnemucca, NV.  the prices appalled me.  i certainly wasn't going to pay
>> that and left.  care to guess how far the next gas station is?
>> 
>> i was driving on a back road in the desert another time and i saw a marked
>> dirt road.  i mean it has to go somewhere, right? it went on and on and on
>> and on and on and on and on and on.  and then it just stopped.
>> 
>> it got dark and all you could see was a million coyote eyes
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 4:28 PM, G Mann  wrote:
>> 
>>> Well.. from drunks to mining.. that's a shift.. hah
>>> 
>>> Andrew.. mine is in Arizona and once part of the largest gold production
>>> mining group of mines in USA.  All were closed down at WW2.. or before..
>>> 
>>> Rich,  If the ex wife touched it.. there would not be rattlesnakes in it
>>> still .. they would have left in professional respect.. lol..   The Ranch
>>> has a number of mines on it.. none currently working or expected to be.
>> I
>>> don't want a mining operation further disturbing the place, so won't
>> happen
>>> in my lifetime.. I get approached often by investment types wanting to
>> tear
>>> big holes and make big messes with promises of riches.. not interested..
>>> peace and quiet are worth more.
>>> 
>>> The Ranch is about the size of Long Island.. only with no people.. I like
>>> it that way.  Sign on front gate reads "Use of deadly force authorized
>>> beyond this point"... "Access by invitation only" so the welcome mat is
>>> out.. ;)
>>> 
>>> If you walk in, pack a lunch.. it's 14 miles to the house from the front
>>> gate, only 106 F here today.. might take water also..
>>> 
>>> Grant...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Rich Thomas <
>>> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>>> 
 This could be a situation where his wife got the mine...
 
 --R
 
 
 On 9/3/13 2:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 
> Where is this mine shaft again?
> 
> Andrew,
> Who is a recovering HardrockGeologist
> 
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:14 PM, G Mann  wrote:
> 
> Bats and blind rattlesnakes.  Plenty of the first, just enough of the
>> last
>> to really put the fear of God in you. They are apparently a colony of
>> snakes that found their way in, can't find their way out, and have
>>> plenty
>> of feed on the bats. They have been underground for so many
>> generations
>> they are all blind.. and truly aggressive.  Nasty biteys, I think it
>> would
>> be in OZ language..
>> 
>> Care for a walkabout? hehehehe
>> 
>> It's an old silver / gold mine.. shut down since 1920's, opened
>> around
>> 1870
>> or so.. produced a lot of value, still plenty there, just would take
>> a
>> billion in legal fees to ever open it again. It's all old style hard
>>> rock
>> tunnel mining... Head frame and elevator car type entry .. straight
>>> down
>> vertical shaft, the equipment is long gone and stripped out.  Came
>> with
>> the
>> property.  They got the gold.. I got the hole.
>> 
>> Thanks for asking.
>> 
>> Grant...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Hendrik and Fay 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> So whatcha mining there Grant? Gold? Silver? Diamonds?
>>> 
>>> Hendrik
>>> who does not have a mine in the backyard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 03/09/13 10:49, G Mann wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hendrik,
 
 You pick the best spots... now that you mention it.. I have a mine
 shaft
 on
 my Ranch that goes straight down 980 feet.. with lateral shafts
>> which
 radius out about every 200 ft.. should be convenient... unless you
>>> are
 buying the beer and BBQ... shall I tuck a muffler under each arm
>> and
 
>>> drop
>> 
>>> by?
 We'll call it "free shipping" if you pay the bailment at customs

Re: [MBZ] OT: Misbehaving email

[Curt Raymond]

Actually I rather like it, I look at the TOC and then just keep hitting the 
space bar while I scan the messages, takes maybe a minute for each digest...

-Curt

Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 18:51:24 -0500
From: Rick Knoble 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Misbehaving email
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Sep 3, 2013, at 1:56 PM, "Alex Chamberlain"  wrote:

> 
> Digest mode with mailing lists is for people who want to read a lot but not
> post much.  This is a well-established convention.


I pity anyone on digest mode here lately...

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins

[Rick Knoble]

On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:36 AM, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:

> Rick is the quick search MASTER.
> 
> Now find me an oring thats 26mm x 19mm x 3.5mm that I don't have to buy in a 
> pack of 10 so I can fix my floor jack. :)


Here you go. 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00858UPWW?ie=UTF8&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links

Thank you for the compliment. I think Mitch Haley
does a fine job on searches too.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins

[Jon Agne]

I spoke with Jonathan yesterday evening and we agreed to speak today to iron 
out details.  As of 10 minutes ago, he had all of the required parts either in 
hand, or arriving tomorrow.  Car should be done Friday morning.

I could get very spoiled.

Jon



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Re: [MBZ] Am I retarded?

[dseretakis]

Just be careful as it might be clear coated. The older cars were not but the 
newer ones are and I don't know when they started.

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On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:17 PM, clay  wrote:

> do not say it!
> 
> Hood on the SE has suffered pine drippings that ate through the paint in 
> areas.  Hood looks like a teenagers face, all pock marked.  Black car and the 
> damage areas are stark white and stand out.  I was able to clay the debris, 
> but that did not reduce the dimensionality of the damage.  SO
> 
> I pulled out the 2000 wet sanding pad and will be working up to 6000 grit 
> before I start using a paste polish system to restore gloss.  
> 
> Was this not a smart idea?  Been raining too hard today to get beyond 2k, so 
> will hold off until I am not drenched (though it does make sanding detritus 
> flow)  Soaker setting on the hose provides good flow, just too much out of 
> the sky to be happy outside.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk at walmart

[WILTON]

Can you state some coordinates or some type of an address so that I may view 
the spread on Google Earth?


BTW, I was just joshing Henny; I've lost my  connections for calling in a 
B-52 strike.  ;<)


Wilton

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Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk at walmart



Gawd.. what a visual...

Sorry to burst your fantasy, but I do not keep rattlesnakes as pets.. They
present a clear and mortal danger to me at the Ranch. Should I be bitten,
due to the remote location, medical help and intervention is to far away.

Contrary to what you might think.. cutting the head off a rattlesnake does
not render it "safe".. I've had severed heads still strike after as long 
as

45 minutes... with the capacity to deliver a lethal dose of venom... so..
should you encounter one... kill it and leave it.. resist the impulse to
"pick it up" cause it's dead...  They are also very territorial. If you
find one near your residence and have it removed.. it will find it's way
back within the next month..  When I first took the Ranch, I would capture
and remove any rattlesnake that came around the ranch house.. soon I
noticed what looked like the same snake [yes.. they all look alike, scary]
so I spray painted the ones captured.. sure enough.. they came back.. 
Since

then... I hang them on the fence and and bury the head, the coyotes or
vultures eat... nothing goes to waste.

Now.. how do we get Gary and the bicycle wrapped into the movie plot with
the mutant flying bat snakes and the sheilas with bad habits.. Help me out
here Hendrik... I see a "Cowboys and Aliens" remake in the works... ;))

Grant...


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Hendrik and Fay  wrote:


I look forward to seeing you two on the people of walmart website.
Gary with a bicycle stuck between his butt checks and Grant with his pet
rattlesnake.

Hendrik
who once again might need to duck and cover

On 04/09/13 06:22, G Mann wrote:

164 mile round trip to WalMart here... but.. the neighborhood is 
quiet...

;)



On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Gary Hurst  
wrote:


 to make the comparison to urban living, i have 2 major supermarkets and 
a

walmart within a quarter mile of where i live






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[MBZ] Am I retarded?

[clay]

do not say it!

Hood on the SE has suffered pine drippings that ate through the paint in areas. 
 Hood looks like a teenagers face, all pock marked.  Black car and the damage 
areas are stark white and stand out.  I was able to clay the debris, but that 
did not reduce the dimensionality of the damage.  SO

I pulled out the 2000 wet sanding pad and will be working up to 6000 grit 
before I start using a paste polish system to restore gloss.  

Was this not a smart idea?  Been raining too hard today to get beyond 2k, so 
will hold off until I am not drenched (though it does make sanding detritus 
flow)  Soaker setting on the hose provides good flow, just too much out of the 
sky to be happy outside.

clay
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Re: [MBZ] W123 AC - Part 3 Begins

[MG]

When I took my parts up to the store they didn't even ask me what 
it was for. The guy just looked at the parts and said "I'll be 
right back" and he was with the right parts. Hope it works the 
same for you.


Yeah, I've smelled that vomit oil before. Usually has a bit of 
water in it also.


Manfred

Curt Raymond wrote:

Thats probably the best plan, otherwise I'll probably replace the one oring and 
then find that there are other parts leaking that I don't know about.

Biggest problem with this jack and sourcing parts is that there are NO labels 
on it at all. Neighbor gave it to me after it sat under his deck for a couple 
years. All the paper labels and stickers have worn off.

He gave me a 12 ton bottle jack that I managed to resurrect with new oil and a 
little shoe goo to put the plug back together. Funny somebody mentioned oil 
that smelled like vomit the other day, thats exactly what I thought as I 
drained the oil from that jack...

-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Misbehaving email

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Sep 3, 2013 4:25 PM, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:
>
> You forget my contention that
> "conversations" are a pain in the ass.

Irrelevant.  That's the way email was designed to work before you were born.

>Unlike other people (apparently
> anyway) I can simply remember what
> was going on,

Why should you have to?  That's what computers are for.

>or read back in the email.

Only if people top-post and don't trim their posts, which is a waste of
bandwidth.

> I also don't like gmail's use of
> searching (useless if you're on digest)
> instead of organizing stuff in folders.

You can use Gmail labels and rules to exactly mimic folders.  (Create a
rule that skips the inbox and assigns a label.)  The reverse is not true.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk at walmart

[G Mann]

Gawd.. what a visual...

Sorry to burst your fantasy, but I do not keep rattlesnakes as pets.. They
present a clear and mortal danger to me at the Ranch. Should I be bitten,
due to the remote location, medical help and intervention is to far away.

Contrary to what you might think.. cutting the head off a rattlesnake does
not render it "safe".. I've had severed heads still strike after as long as
45 minutes... with the capacity to deliver a lethal dose of venom... so..
should you encounter one... kill it and leave it.. resist the impulse to
"pick it up" cause it's dead...  They are also very territorial. If you
find one near your residence and have it removed.. it will find it's way
back within the next month..  When I first took the Ranch, I would capture
and remove any rattlesnake that came around the ranch house.. soon I
noticed what looked like the same snake [yes.. they all look alike, scary]
so I spray painted the ones captured.. sure enough.. they came back.. Since
then... I hang them on the fence and and bury the head, the coyotes or
vultures eat... nothing goes to waste.

Now.. how do we get Gary and the bicycle wrapped into the movie plot with
the mutant flying bat snakes and the sheilas with bad habits.. Help me out
here Hendrik... I see a "Cowboys and Aliens" remake in the works... ;))

Grant...


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Hendrik and Fay  wrote:

> I look forward to seeing you two on the people of walmart website.
> Gary with a bicycle stuck between his butt checks and Grant with his pet
> rattlesnake.
>
> Hendrik
> who once again might need to duck and cover
>
> On 04/09/13 06:22, G Mann wrote:
>
>> 164 mile round trip to WalMart here... but.. the neighborhood is quiet...
>> ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>>
>>  to make the comparison to urban living, i have 2 major supermarkets and a
>>> walmart within a quarter mile of where i live
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] What is it with Russians and cheap paint?

[clay]

I may find it less cash intensive to neither fly you and your paint here, nor 
ship my car to you.

clay

On Sep 2, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:

> Silver Green metallic?
> Well what you need and what you get are two different things, found a big tin 
> of very light green in the shed, that will do.
> 
> Hendrik
> who finished the painting for the day and thus is available to paint your car 
> for chp
> 
> On 03/09/13 13:25, clay wrote:
>> I need 861 G for the body
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk

[Rick Knoble]

On Sep 3, 2013, at 11:14 AM, "G Mann"  wrote:

> They got the gold.. I got the hole.


AND the shaft!

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Misbehaving email (was Re: buymbparts)

[Rick Knoble]

On Sep 3, 2013, at 4:38 PM, "Fmiser"  wrote:

> 
> It also doesn't use ">" for previous post quoting.  My client makes
> use of those to color code the message making it easier to follow
> the replies.

Which is why I like my iPhone for email above my android tablet or even web 
mail for that matter. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling

[G Mann]

Crikeys mate.. sounds like one of those movies where the concession stand
only sells whiskey and gin in 2 liter plastic bottles [can't have the
patrons hurting themselves].. ;))

Can we throw in a couple of looker sheilas with bad habits and a plot?
Might just be the 'gold mine" that don't need digging..

I like how you think.. lol

Grant...


On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Hendrik and Fay  wrote:

> Sounds like the basis for a movie, mutant hybrid flying bat rattlers from
> the depths.
>
> Hendrik
> who tends to stay away from snakes
>
> On 04/09/13 01:44, G Mann wrote:
>
>> Bats and blind rattlesnakes.  Plenty of the first, just enough of the last
>> to really put the fear of God in you. They are apparently a colony of
>> snakes that found their way in, can't find their way out, and have plenty
>> of feed on the bats. They have been underground for so many generations
>> they are all blind.. and truly aggressive.  Nasty biteys, I think it would
>> be in OZ language..
>>
>> Care for a walkabout? hehehehe
>>
>> It's an old silver / gold mine.. shut down since 1920's, opened around
>> 1870
>> or so.. produced a lot of value, still plenty there, just would take a
>> billion in legal fees to ever open it again. It's all old style hard rock
>> tunnel mining... Head frame and elevator car type entry .. straight down
>> vertical shaft, the equipment is long gone and stripped out.  Came with
>> the
>> property.  They got the gold.. I got the hole.
>>
>> Thanks for asking.
>>
>> Grant...
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Misbehaving email

[Rick Knoble]

On Sep 3, 2013, at 1:56 PM, "Alex Chamberlain"  wrote:

> 
> Digest mode with mailing lists is for people who want to read a lot but not
> post much.  This is a well-established convention.


I pity anyone on digest mode here lately...

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] on a mercedes note

[Scott Ritchey]

This is what I've been using:

http://joshmadison.com/convert-for-windows/

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Fmiser
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 3:33 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] on a mercedes note

> > Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> >
> > Just converting meters to feet has me worked up into a lather.

> OK wrote:
> 
> This is a link to my favorite conversion utility - no
> installation, just download the file and double click it (Windows
> only). http://wscope.com/convert.htm
> It takes the pain out ofmeters to feet :-)

Hopefully all the Linux users are familiar with "units". It is my
favorite conversion tool.  It helps that it's a commandline utility.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Misbehaving email

[Curt Raymond]

You forget my contention that "conversations" are a pain in the ass. Unlike 
other people (apparently anyway) I can simply remember what was going on, or 
read back in the email. I don't need/want them lumped together.
I also don't like gmail's use of searching (useless if you're on digest) 
instead of organizing stuff in folders.

I've got a gmail account, I use it for Youtube responses.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 18:32:42 -0400
From: Michael Canfield 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Misbehaving email
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Would it be a terrible inconvenience to use Gmail or similar strictly for
the list mails?

Mike
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Misbehaving email

[Curt Raymond]

Which is why I always top post. Again its not the fault of Yahoo particularly 
(other than they apparently don't deal well with MIME (better than Hotmail 
though)) its my cut and paste method...

-Curt
Just for you Philip, I added the > below, don't get used to it.


Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 14:51:57 -0500
From: Fmiser 
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Misbehaving email (was Re:  buymbparts)
Message-ID: <20130903145157.5a7af...@jasper.condray.lan>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

> Allan wrote:
> 
> Curt I wonder if you're aware that whatever you're using for email
> (Yahoo web mail?) does not include a proper In-Reply-To header so
> that every reply breaks the thread that you're replying to.

> It also doesn't use ">" for previous post quoting.  My client makes
> use of those to color code the message making it easier to follow
> the replies.

> --  Philip
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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question '83 300D

[Fmiser]

> Richard wrote:
> 
> In fact, what will probably happen is the alternator will begin
> charging the newly introduced battery since the questionable one
> was run dry, thus has a high resistance cell eliminating the
> ability for the battery to be charged by the alternator. 

If the battery has high resistance, then it will be even easier for
the alternator to achieve 13.6 V.  If the resistance is _low_, then
it could have trouble supplying the necessary current.  Ohms law
and all that. *smiles*

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk

[Hendrik and Fay]

Perhaps also put a sign out the front warning people about blind 
rattlesnakes and vampire bats.


Hendrik
who has seen rattlesnakes at the zoo

On 04/09/13 05:58, G Mann wrote:

Well.. from drunks to mining.. that's a shift.. hah

Andrew.. mine is in Arizona and once part of the largest gold production
mining group of mines in USA.  All were closed down at WW2.. or before..

Rich,  If the ex wife touched it.. there would not be rattlesnakes in it
still .. they would have left in professional respect.. lol..   The Ranch
has a number of mines on it.. none currently working or expected to be.  I
don't want a mining operation further disturbing the place, so won't happen
in my lifetime.. I get approached often by investment types wanting to tear
big holes and make big messes with promises of riches.. not interested..
peace and quiet are worth more.

The Ranch is about the size of Long Island.. only with no people.. I like
it that way.  Sign on front gate reads "Use of deadly force authorized
beyond this point"... "Access by invitation only" so the welcome mat is
out.. ;)

If you walk in, pack a lunch.. it's 14 miles to the house from the front
gate, only 106 F here today.. might take water also..

Grant...




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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk at walmart

[Hendrik and Fay]

I look forward to seeing you two on the people of walmart website.
Gary with a bicycle stuck between his butt checks and Grant with his pet 
rattlesnake.


Hendrik
who once again might need to duck and cover

On 04/09/13 06:22, G Mann wrote:

164 mile round trip to WalMart here... but.. the neighborhood is quiet... ;)



On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:


to make the comparison to urban living, i have 2 major supermarkets and a
walmart within a quarter mile of where i live






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Re: [MBZ] OT: Misbehaving email

[Michael Canfield]

Would it be a terrible inconvenience to use Gmail or similar strictly for
the list mails?

Mike
On Sep 3, 2013 5:08 PM, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:

> Locking me into one computer...
> The beauty of webmail. However Yahoo's latest updates make me like it
> considerably less than I used to. I shall have to ponder.
>
>
> -Curt
>
>
> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 11:56:25 -0700
> From: Alex Chamberlain 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Misbehaving email
> Message-ID:
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Sep 3, 2013 11:11 AM, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:
> >
> > Other than moving from digest I can't
> > see anything I could do that would
> > make life easier for you. Lets face it
> > you're asking me to do more work to
> > make gmail (your choice) work for
> > you not for me...
>
> Not just email but any mail reader that implements RFC 2822 correctly , in
> particular the In-Reply-To and References fields.  See
> www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2822.html
>
> Digest mode with mailing lists is for people who want to read a lot but not
> post much.  This is a well-established convention.
>
> However, MIME-aware email clients will show the digest as a set of discrete
> messages, each of which can be replied to individually. Yahoo mail is not
> MIME-aware.  One free program that is, is Thunderbird.
>
> Alex
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