Re: [MBZ] Are the same filters used?

[Peter Frederick]

I believe Mann and Hengst are wound string, so is WIX (at O'Reilly's),  
so that's what I use.  Gin trash is highly variable in filtering  
capacity and particle size breakthrough.


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Re: [MBZ] Are the same filters used?

[Gary Hurst]

are you against the gin trash filters?  those were the OE filters used by
mercedes


On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 1:22 AM, Peter Frederick wrote:

> Actually, the specifcation is, I believe, "string" filters, like Wix are.
>  There is a full flow pleated paper element and a "bypass" filter that is
> supposed to be tightly wound porous string to give great filtering depth
> with small particle retention.
>
> Needless to say, most filters are packed with gin trash instead of being
> wound string, it's cheaper.
>
> Gin trash, if you are not familiar with the term, is the crap from ginning
> cotton to remove the seeds that is too short to spin into yarn.  Usually
> full of bits of cotton boll and bug parts.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Are the same filters used?

[Peter Frederick]

Actually, the specifcation is, I believe, "string" filters, like Wix  
are.  There is a full flow pleated paper element and a "bypass" filter  
that is supposed to be tightly wound porous string to give great  
filtering depth with small particle retention.


Needless to say, most filters are packed with gin trash instead of  
being wound string, it's cheaper.


Gin trash, if you are not familiar with the term, is the crap from  
ginning cotton to remove the seeds that is too short to spin into  
yarn.  Usually full of bits of cotton boll and bug parts.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Are the same filters used?

[Jon Agne]

Uh huh.


On Sep 27, 2013, at 12:17 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:

> i always found that "fleece" terminology really strange.  i'd think of the
> old 617 filters that were comprised of cloth milling residue as more
> "fleece" than the modern synthetic type material filters.  they are just
> like the paper filters only they use a synthetic filtration medium, like
> polyester or something instead of the traditional paper medium as you'd
> find in some old school wix  or purolator filter
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Rick Knoble wrote:
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 10:08 PM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:
>> 
>>> and what do you mean by the oil filter being "felt"?
>> 
>> 
>> I think he means "fleece". RLE used to refer to the newer Benz filters as
>> fleece.
>> He correlated the use of fleece filters to the higher milage between oil
>> changes IIRC.
>> 
>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Are the same filters used?

[Gary Hurst]

i always found that "fleece" terminology really strange.  i'd think of the
old 617 filters that were comprised of cloth milling residue as more
"fleece" than the modern synthetic type material filters.  they are just
like the paper filters only they use a synthetic filtration medium, like
polyester or something instead of the traditional paper medium as you'd
find in some old school wix  or purolator filter


On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Rick Knoble wrote:

> On Sep 26, 2013, at 10:08 PM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:
>
> > and what do you mean by the oil filter being "felt"?
>
>
> I think he means "fleece". RLE used to refer to the newer Benz filters as
> fleece.
> He correlated the use of fleece filters to the higher milage between oil
> changes IIRC.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Are the same filters used?

[Rick Knoble]

On Sep 26, 2013, at 10:08 PM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:

> and what do you mean by the oil filter being "felt"?


I think he means "fleece". RLE used to refer to the newer Benz filters as 
fleece. 
He correlated the use of fleece filters to the higher milage between oil 
changes IIRC. 

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Re: [MBZ] Are the same filters used?

[Gary Hurst]

and what do you mean by the oil filter being "felt"?


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> it might depend on what 220 and what 140 you wish to compare
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:35 PM, clay  wrote:
>
>> I am getting rid of the parts shelf items I no longer have a car for.  I
>> would like to put up a few items I can actually use.  With a w220 and a
>> w140 to take care of, I was wondering if the oil filters, being felt and
>> all, were the same.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] A fragrance for the new S-Class

[Gerry Archer]

One of my country relatives has had that for years.  He buys it at Walmart 
and hangs it on the pickups rear view mirror next to the rubber dice. 
Covers up the smell of stale beer really well.

Gerry

From: "Chris James" 
\> Interesting article about the creation of the scents for the new S-Class!

http://www5.mercedes-benz.com/en/innovation/a-fragrance-for-the-new-s-class-interior-perfume-scent-sabine-engelhardt/
I found the Part No. in the EPC to order the scents! Now your
room/office/car can smell like the new S-Class! Just have to pick up a
mini atomizer!

PERFUME SAMPLE SET (Nightlife Mood, Sports Mood, Downtown Mood &
Freeside Mood)
Make : Mercedes Benz
Part#: 0008990117
List $18.50


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Re: [MBZ] Are the same filters used?

[Gary Hurst]

it might depend on what 220 and what 140 you wish to compare


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:35 PM, clay  wrote:

> I am getting rid of the parts shelf items I no longer have a car for.  I
> would like to put up a few items I can actually use.  With a w220 and a
> w140 to take care of, I was wondering if the oil filters, being felt and
> all, were the same.
>
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[MBZ] Are the same filters used?

[clay]

I am getting rid of the parts shelf items I no longer have a car for.  I would 
like to put up a few items I can actually use.  With a w220 and a w140 to take 
care of, I was wondering if the oil filters, being felt and all, were the same.

clay
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Re: [MBZ] A fragrance for the new S-Class

[Jaime Kopchinski]

If you're nice to them, I assume they'll give you a free set at the dealer.
 I think the samples have been floating around for a while now.


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Chris James  wrote:

> Interesting article about the creation of the scents for the new S-Class!
>
> http://www5.mercedes-benz.com/**en/innovation/a-fragrance-for-**
> the-new-s-class-interior-**perfume-scent-sabine-**engelhardt/
>
> I found the Part No. in the EPC to order the scents! Now your
> room/office/car can smell like the new S-Class! Just have to pick up a
> mini atomizer!
>
> PERFUME SAMPLE SET (Nightlife Mood, Sports Mood, Downtown Mood &
> Freeside Mood)
> Make : Mercedes Benz
> Part#: 0008990117
> List $18.50
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Re: [MBZ] 3-pointed star

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Sep 26, 2013 3:58 PM, "Chris James"  wrote:
>
> “Good, as long as you care some
> that’s enough.”

Are you referring to the anti-"could care less" shibboleth?

Can we put that one to bed?  I'm not a big fan of Stephen Pinker's brand of
linguistics, but he pretty much had the definitive word on the subject:

http://tinyurl.com/kjyyb4x

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Re: [MBZ] A fragrance for the new S-Class

[WILTON]

'Reminds me, I need to find some "new-car" fragrance for my 27-year-old 124. 
S'pose it'll make me think it drives and rides any better?


Wilt

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From: "Chris James" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 6:56 PM
Subject: [MBZ] A fragrance for the new S-Class



Interesting article about the creation of the scents for the new S-Class!

http://www5.mercedes-benz.com/en/innovation/a-fragrance-for-the-new-s-class-interior-perfume-scent-sabine-engelhardt/

I found the Part No. in the EPC to order the scents! Now your
room/office/car can smell like the new S-Class! Just have to pick up a
mini atomizer!

PERFUME SAMPLE SET (Nightlife Mood, Sports Mood, Downtown Mood &
Freeside Mood)
Make : Mercedes Benz
Part#: 0008990117
List $18.50


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Re: [MBZ] 350SDL on eBay

[Chris James]

Yeah, probably! Now I wouldn't mind being able to pick it up for
that...let see how high bidding goes on this "Perfectly Running" car!



From: "Kaleb C. Striplin"  Date: 9/26/2013 12:01
PM


They probably got it for about $1500



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Re: [MBZ] 3-pointed star

[Chris James]

LOL, I love it! Plus many men too! ;-)

BTW, love the comments!

“Good, as long as you care some that’s enough.”
Have to remember that one! :-)


On 9/26/2013 1:46 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:

Anybody else read B. C. today?

Thanks. Hadn't read it in years, since local paper dropped it.

http://www.gocomics.com/bc#.UkQxtdSoC9I




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[MBZ] A fragrance for the new S-Class

[Chris James]

Interesting article about the creation of the scents for the new S-Class!

http://www5.mercedes-benz.com/en/innovation/a-fragrance-for-the-new-s-class-interior-perfume-scent-sabine-engelhardt/

I found the Part No. in the EPC to order the scents! Now your
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PERFUME SAMPLE SET (Nightlife Mood, Sports Mood, Downtown Mood &
Freeside Mood)
Make : Mercedes Benz
Part#: 0008990117
List $18.50


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Re: [MBZ] Insurance Big Brother Widget?

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> sharply now that it's time to renew.
>
> I have an opportunity to cut my insurance rates in half by having one of
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> months.  Opinions?  Has anyone tried this?
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Re: [MBZ] 3-pointed star

[WILTON]

Is that how you get/got yours?   ;<)

Wilton

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It's true!  :D


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:10 AM,  wrote:


> Anybody else read B. C. today?

Thanks.
Hadn't read it in years, since local paper dropped it.

http://www.gocomics.com/bc#.UkQxtdSoC9I


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Re: [MBZ] 350SDL on eBay

[WILTON]

'Don't think I've ridden in a car with all the windows down in 45+ years.

Wilton

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On 26/09/2013 9:23 AM, WILTON wrote:
Wonder why all the windows are down; so he can hear all the loud 
clattering better or to hear a rod come through to daylight or to 
better hear the silence after the chain breaks/brakes?


Wilton




I know! I know!  (Waving arms and jumping up and down.)

Because - the AC blows so cold that you have to open the windows or you 
will freeze to death.


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Re: [MBZ] 350SDL on eBay

[Randy Bennell]

On 26/09/2013 9:23 AM, WILTON wrote:
Wonder why all the windows are down; so he can hear all the loud 
clattering better or to hear a rod come through to daylight or to 
better hear the silence after the chain breaks/brakes?


Wilton




I know! I know!  (Waving arms and jumping up and down.)

Because - the AC blows so cold that you have to open the windows or you 
will freeze to death.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] 3-pointed star

[Randy Bennell]

I suspect it works better if you 3 pointed star is much much newer than 
the one I have.


Randy who offered to let his wife use the car but she declined

On 26/09/2013 12:46 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel wrote:

It's true!  :D


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:10 AM,  wrote:


Anybody else read B. C. today?

Thanks.
Hadn't read it in years, since local paper dropped it.

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Re: [MBZ] 3-pointed star

[M. Mitchell Marmel]

It's true!  :D


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:10 AM,  wrote:

> > Anybody else read B. C. today?
>
> Thanks.
> Hadn't read it in years, since local paper dropped it.
>
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[MBZ] OT: UK pilots' union says fatigue is biggest threat to air safety

[Gerry Archer]

Exhausted airline pilots are frequently falling asleep in the cockpit, with 
one in six admitting to having slept at the same time as their co-pilot, 
their union has warned.
The British Airline Pilots Association released the findings of its survey 
after reports of an incident in August where a passenger plane belonging to 
a UK airline was left on autopilot as the crew slept.
Neither pilot had slept more than five hours in the past two nights before 
flying the Airbus A330, according to the official incident report logged by 
the Civil Aviation Authority, which did not issue further details.snip


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Re: [MBZ] Insurance Big Brother Widget?

[clay]

I have not tried it.  Recent surveys have shown that it is not a popular option 
if offered, no matter the savings.  Something like 60% of those asked, there 
was no way they would take that offer.  Smacked of NSA spying and other 
intrusions on privacy.  TSA can poke fingers in your orifices if you fly, but 
not in your own car.

We are traveling down a slippery slope by giving ourselves over to the computer 
overlords.  One day we will no longer have the ability to our own private 
thoughts or choices.  We will live in the bosom of the overlords with all the 
entitlements, or be feral camps living in the wild lands.

clay


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> Had a fender-bender in late February, and my insurance rate shot up sharply 
> now that it's time to renew.
> 
> I have an opportunity to cut my insurance rates in half by having one of 
> those Big Brother widgets attached to the OBD-II in the E420 for a few 
> months.  Opinions?  Has anyone tried this?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 3-pointed star

[Fmiser]

> m...@voyager.net wrote:
> 
> > Anybody else read B. C. today?
> 
> Thanks.
> Hadn't read it in years, since local paper dropped it.
> 
> http://www.gocomics.com/bc#.UkQxtdSoC9I

I think the comments are as good as the comic.

"...the symbol for radioactivity..."
"...Peace..."

etc.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] 350SDL on eBay

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

They probably got it for about $1500

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 26, 2013, at 9:15 AM, Chris James  wrote:

> 
> Seen this 350SDL while browsing eBay. The color caught my eye, don't see
> Teal Blue cars too often. But the vid they posted was a total turn off.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psxb9e-rCkQ
> 
> OK, we get it, it hauls! Everyone knows the benefits of an Italian
> tuneup, but all the revving of the engine & racing it around the parking
> lot in a for sale vid didn't impress me or befit the car, especially
> with the clicking/clacking lifters and/or belt tensioner & it just
> seemed overly loud in general. That 603 certainly wasn't purring. More
> like $60K new & 30mpg.keep dreaming!
> 
> Still it's a pretty car, just not for their original $8K asking price. I
> wonder how much the dealer picked it up at auction for?
> 
> -- 
> Chris J.
> MBCA Peachtree section
> Past MB Models:
> '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E
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Re: [MBZ] Insurance Big Brother Widget?

[Curt Raymond]

Depends on how paranoid you are I suppose. If I had one I'd be very careful 
about who I let drive my car though. Loan the car out, friend does something 
stupid and up goes your rate...

I'd put a note on the dash "reminder, Big Brother IS watching" just as a 
reminder.

-Curt


Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 05:02:31 -0500
From: "M. Mitchell Marmel" 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Banned List , banned_misf...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MBZ] Insurance Big Brother Widget?
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed"

Had a fender-bender in late February, and my 
insurance rate shot up sharply now that it's time 
to renew.

I have an opportunity to cut my insurance rates 
in half by having one of those Big Brother 
widgets attached to the OBD-II in the E420 for a 
few months.  Opinions?  Has anyone tried this?

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] 350SDL on eBay

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Maybe they are stuck in the down position!

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:23 AM, WILTON  wrote:

> Wonder why all the windows are down; so he can hear all the loud
> clattering better or to hear a rod come through to daylight or to better
> hear the silence after the chain breaks/brakes?
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Chris James" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 10:15 AM
> Subject: [MBZ] 350SDL on eBay
>
>
>
>> Seen this 350SDL while browsing eBay. The color caught my eye, don't see
>> Teal Blue cars too often. But the vid they posted was a total turn off.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=psxb9e-rCkQ
>>
>> OK, we get it, it hauls! Everyone knows the benefits of an Italian
>> tuneup, but all the revving of the engine & racing it around the parking
>> lot in a for sale vid didn't impress me or befit the car, especially
>> with the clicking/clacking lifters and/or belt tensioner & it just
>> seemed overly loud in general. That 603 certainly wasn't purring. More
>> like $60K new & 30mpg.keep dreaming!
>>
>> Still it's a pretty car, just not for their original $8K asking price. I
>> wonder how much the dealer picked it up at auction for?
>>
>> --
>> Chris J.
>> MBCA Peachtree section
>> Past MB Models:
>> '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 350SDL on eBay

[WILTON]

Wonder why all the windows are down; so he can hear all the loud clattering 
better or to hear a rod come through to daylight or to better hear the 
silence after the chain breaks/brakes?


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris James" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 10:15 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 350SDL on eBay




Seen this 350SDL while browsing eBay. The color caught my eye, don't see
Teal Blue cars too often. But the vid they posted was a total turn off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psxb9e-rCkQ

OK, we get it, it hauls! Everyone knows the benefits of an Italian
tuneup, but all the revving of the engine & racing it around the parking
lot in a for sale vid didn't impress me or befit the car, especially
with the clicking/clacking lifters and/or belt tensioner & it just
seemed overly loud in general. That 603 certainly wasn't purring. More
like $60K new & 30mpg.keep dreaming!

Still it's a pretty car, just not for their original $8K asking price. I
wonder how much the dealer picked it up at auction for?

--
Chris J.
MBCA Peachtree section
Past MB Models:
'85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E

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Re: [MBZ] 3-pointed star

[WILTON]

Thnks for link.

Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: 

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Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 3-pointed star



Anybody else read B. C. today?


Thanks.
Hadn't read it in years, since local paper dropped it.

http://www.gocomics.com/bc#.UkQxtdSoC9I


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Re: [MBZ] 3-pointed star

[Jon Agne]

Priceless!

On Sep 26, 2013, at 9:10 AM, m...@voyager.net wrote:

>> Anybody else read B. C. today?
> 
> Thanks.
> Hadn't read it in years, since local paper dropped it.
> 
> http://www.gocomics.com/bc#.UkQxtdSoC9I
> 
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[MBZ] 350SDL on eBay

[Chris James]

Seen this 350SDL while browsing eBay. The color caught my eye, don't see
Teal Blue cars too often. But the vid they posted was a total turn off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psxb9e-rCkQ

OK, we get it, it hauls! Everyone knows the benefits of an Italian
tuneup, but all the revving of the engine & racing it around the parking
lot in a for sale vid didn't impress me or befit the car, especially
with the clicking/clacking lifters and/or belt tensioner & it just
seemed overly loud in general. That 603 certainly wasn't purring. More
like $60K new & 30mpg.keep dreaming!

Still it's a pretty car, just not for their original $8K asking price. I
wonder how much the dealer picked it up at auction for?

--
Chris J.
MBCA Peachtree section
Past MB Models:
'85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E

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Re: [MBZ] 3-pointed star

[mlh]

> Anybody else read B. C. today?

Thanks.
Hadn't read it in years, since local paper dropped it.

http://www.gocomics.com/bc#.UkQxtdSoC9I


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[MBZ] 3-pointed star

[WILTON]

Anybody else read B. C. today?

Wilt
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Re: [MBZ] Vacuum pump oil

[mlh]

> Actually you should change it regularly.  If you do a lot of service, it's
> almost monthly.  There are guidelines which I don't remember, but I do
> remember them surprising me at how often it should be changed.

I'm not sure either, but for somebody who uses it once or twice a year, or
might leave it on the shelf unused for 2 years straight, I think the safe
way is to change it after every use. I ran it for 1/2 hour last winter
when I bought it, but didn't have any oil on hand at the time.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Insurance Big Brother Widget?

[mlh]

Progressive dislikes acceleration, in any direction.
They ding you for a 'hard brake' at 7mph/second.
If you stop for a yellow light, you WILL be penalized.
If you routinely run yellow/pink lights, don't corner hard, and drive a
diesel, you'll probably do OK.

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/arcmessageview.php?catid=52&threadid=1121895


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[MBZ] Insurance Big Brother Widget?

[M. Mitchell Marmel]

Had a fender-bender in late February, and my 
insurance rate shot up sharply now that it's time 
to renew.


I have an opportunity to cut my insurance rates 
in half by having one of those Big Brother 
widgets attached to the OBD-II in the E420 for a 
few months.  Opinions?  Has anyone tried this?


-MMM-

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Re: [MBZ] Speedo errors

[Frederick Moir]

Peter.
The numbers are as specified in the EPC.
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.



>
> From: Peter Frederick 
>To: Mercedes Discussion List  
>Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 12:52 AM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speedo errors
> 
>
>Has someone perhaps replaced the speedo head?
>
>Peter
>
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