[MBZ] OT Apple Pie and Baseball

2014-01-13 Thread Hans Neureiter
Baseball is on a roll lately. The Roger Clemens fiasco of late and now
A-Rod.
Is it time to worry if apple pie is being doped?

-- 
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'82 300SD
'01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI
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Re: [MBZ] OT Apple Pie and Baseball

2014-01-13 Thread Dieselhead

Baseball is on a roll lately. The Roger Clemens fiasco of late and now
A-Rod.
Is it time to worry if apple pie is being doped?

--
Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX
'82 300SD
'01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI


hardly anyone makes apple pie at home.   Neither baseball nor apple 
pie are american symbols anymore.   In order to destroy the family 
and christianity, mama
has to be put to work outside the home.  It is all part of the 
socialist/progressive plan.  There was a prior post about the 
socialist/progressive assault on America:




Wrong target, mao.  The voting system isn't perfect but the real problem is
the electorate who are both mis-educated (which is worse than ignorant) and
greedy.


This gets back to my point of the progressive (liberal, 
marxist/socialist/and the much more recent, though out of style 
communist) takeover of the education system over the past 150 years. 
they started out as socialists.  Many socialist communities 
(experiments) were tried in the USA, including the german Amana 
colonies, the french icarian society and yes, even the first 
pilgrims.  They all failed because there is less motivation to work 
for the collective than there is to work for yourself.  After that, 
marx came along, and it became known as marxism.  in the late 1800s 
in the us, since socialism and marxism were proven failures, they 
re-labelled themselves as progressives  then lenin murdered 
millions instituting communism, then because that ism was 
disgraced, they labelled themselves as liberals.  In the post reagan 
era, when the liberal title  became unelectible, they renamed 
themselves progressive again and took over the democrat party. 
Throughout all this time, the target has been textbooks and 
misguiding the kinder.  This proves the wisdom of the Hawaiian 
proverb I quoted in an earlier post.  These people are in it for the 
long game.  to own and control all the sheep.  Central planning by 
the chosen few.


Before 1900 there were  no organized national sports.  As part of the 
progressive agenda, means were needed to take the focus off the 
christianity, the country, and politics, because an informed and 
religious populous can't be herded like sheep.  Organized sports and 
the entertainment industry have been used to achieve these goals.  It 
is no coincidence that education/hollywood/unions are all dominated 
by socialist/progressive thought.


I'd postulate that informed people should pay no attention to overage 
juveniles getting paid way more than we are paid for playing 
childrens' school games.


As for Apple pie, it is American, but is no longer relevant.

Apple pie may become relevant once more if the church reforms, and 
causes an American  revival.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: diesel genset

2014-01-13 Thread Dan Penoff
If it's a later model Coleman, it's brushless.

Remove the back cover to see.

Either way, there is going to be some sort of regulator or bridge rectifier 
under a cover somewhere. Find this.

As I suggested in a previous post, find the field wires, typically labeled F1 
 F2, or just +  -. These will either go to a set of brushes (revolving 
field) or a stationary field winding (brushless alternator).

Get a 12VDC power supply - an automotive battery works well, or a battery 
charger. Get wires set up but not a complete circuit connected to the field 
windings or brushes. Plug in a light bulb or a voltmeter to the generator 
output.

Start the engine. Complete the circuit to the field/brushes. Observe the output.

If you get output, and it may not be full output, as 40-60 volts would be good, 
higher is fine, this means that everything in the generator end is working. You 
probably have a bad regulator/bridge.

If you don't get output, you'll need to start checking windings.

If you get to this point, keep in mind that these windings are very low 
resistance and can not be accurately measured with most hand held meters. More 
importantly, look for opens and grounds to the laminations or generator frame. 
You MUST disconnect all wires to check the windings, as one side of the stator 
leads are typically grounded for the neutral.

Have at it and report back. Based on over 25 years experience with this stuff, 
I'm betting regulator.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Jan 12, 2014, at 2:19 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 
 G Mann wrote:
 Thanks,
 If I get it right, you have a :
 10 hp gas engine generator, running at 3600 RPM, 110/220 v, 60 cycle
 generator. The engine runs OK..
 The generator does not produce it's rated 6KV.
 
 Doesn't produce diddly squat.
 
 If I have the facts straight, they were running refrigerators and freezers on 
 extension cords when the power stopped and the engine pitch changed to 
 no-load.
 
 Since the plastic cover over the brushes on my 1980s Coleman started falling 
 off and I saw what was under it, I'd been meaning to take a small screwdriver 
 over to their house, pry off the similar cover on the back of their generator 
 head, and see if there are brushes under there. But from the sounds of it, 
 unless there's a broken brush spring I don't think I'll find the problem 
 there.
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running Rough...help!

2014-01-13 Thread Larry T
If the screens/filters are truly not available (try MB CLassic) I would 
add a filter in the fuel line leading to the FD.fuel has all kinds 
of crap in it which should be kept out of precision equipment like the 
FD if at all possible.


Sincerely,
Larry

On 1/12/2014 8:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Seems they put them on for a reason. Can't you move the fitting from the old to 
the new?

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 12, 2014, at 7:05 PM, Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com wrote:



Hi again,


I just received an email response from the person who rebuilt the fuel 
distributor.  He said:


Hi your rebuilt FD has no little filters in the banjo outlets so now you are 
getting more fuel. Lean out the adjustment hex screw infront of the FD,
Thanks Gene


I asked him why and his reply was:


They do not make those little filters anymore. You car will run better with-out 
it.


Does this make sense?  If so I am wondering if I should put the new one back on 
and lean it out,  as Mitch suggested in an earlier post.


Bob








-Original Message-
From: Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com
To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sun, Jan 12, 2014 6:52 pm
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running
rough...help!


Kaleb,


 The reason for changing fuel distributor was in my original post which
now seems like days ago:


Hi Guys,


   I still have an issue with rough idle and hesitation during acceleration on
my 1990 300E w/90K  that I haven't been able to fix.  So far I replaced the fuel
filter, fuel pumps, oxygen sensor, coolant temperature sensor,and EHA valve,
fuel injectors...problem still there!
My latest part swap is a rebuilt fuel distributor.  After installing it a few
hours ago the car now runs very rough and stalls.  I read that there is some
adjustments that have to be done on fuel distributors.  I don't have any special
tools so I might have to take the car to a shop that deals in older Mercedes. I
can't seem to get it to run enough to get it to the shop.



Does anyone know how to jump or bridge the relay to adjust the fuel flow to the
fuel distributor?  Books say to jump pins #7  8 on the fuel pump relay but this
car does not have one, it has a MAS relay.


Any help or suggestions to get the car going would be greatly appreciated.  I
would hate to put back the old distributor to get it to a shop.


Thanks,


Bob





-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sun, Jan 12, 2014 6:18 pm
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running
rough...help!


So why did you replace it in the first place?

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 12, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com wrote:

Since changing the fuel distributor is really not difficult I decided to put

the old one back on and see what happens.  It started up pretty quick and ran
rough with excessive white smoke.  I assume that's the excess fuel in the system

burning off.  Have a party to attend so can't wait for it to burn
off...hopefully it's not too long.


I will resume the quest tomorrow.


Thanks to all!



-Original Message-
From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sun, Jan 12, 2014 12:32 pm
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running

rough...help!


Thanks Mitch.

I'm still battling mine, I suspect I need to bite the bullet and take
the fuel distributor off and clean everything up.  Just put a new
regulator on the alternator today, battery went flat between Monday
(when it started at -4) and Friday night.  Good thing it didn't poop
out on me in the cold.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew

2014-01-13 Thread Tim Crone
On Jan 12, 2014 10:32 AM, roger...@comcast.net wrote:

 Tim,
 If you think computers are not risky at counting votes by themselves
while leaving no detailed trail, then I have some perfectly good, but
moist land I'll sell you next to the creek here in Georgia.

I'm not sure what county you are in, but if you are in the Triangle your
votes are already counted by computer.  If someone altered or erred in the
scantron software odds are we'd never know.  You don't get to take those
home, either, and if someone substituted a batch of them I don't know how
you'd figure it out.

The detailed trail opens itself to further fraud; I have no problem with
an internal paper receipt in case there is a glitch, but anything that's
given to the user that is finalized and unchangeable is asking for trouble.

Of course I mostly assume that you trust the board of elections, both to
make good purchasing decisions and to be honest and careful with ballots.
If you don't trust the electioneers then it doesn't really matter how your
vote is counted.

Best,
Tim
Needs no swampland
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Re: [MBZ] Who wants raspberry pi?

2014-01-13 Thread Rich Thomas

This is better than dealing with an ACC

http://hackaday.com/2014/01/12/automated-decanting-machine-pairs-wine-with-pi/

--R


On 1/12/14 11:27 PM, Dieselhead wrote:

You could use one to drive a replacement for the evil crypsler ACC.



What would thus have to do with a mercedes?
On Jan 12, 2014 8:06 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


 My point is - why would I want one?




  You wouldn't, but the resident Q in your goobermnt spy agency would
 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Snowmobile repair

2014-01-13 Thread Randy Bennell

I had no idea that Cessna made a snowmobile??

Randy who wonders why people do not change the Subject line when they 
change the topic


On 10/01/2014 5:09 PM, OK Don wrote:

I got the old generator bracket removed, and the new alternator installed
and safetied on the Cessna today - re-wiring commences tomorrow (upgrading
from 35A to 70A circuits, breaker, etc.).


On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:


I spent my day removing the 11 hydraulic cylinders from my SL500 and
shipping them off to Top Hydraulics in Oregon for rebuilding.







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Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew

2014-01-13 Thread Randy Bennell

On 10/01/2014 6:05 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

Dieselhead wrote:

It is time
for the sheep in the US to wake up and wrestle control of the goobermnt back
from crooked politicians.

Sure.
How?
Use the corruption flawed system we have named vote?
So, How?
mao

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Therein lies the problem. In recent elections, I have voted against 
people rather than for them. A sad commentary on politics in your 
country and mine.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew

2014-01-13 Thread Dieselhead

On 10/01/2014 6:05 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

Dieselhead wrote:

It is time
for the sheep in the US to wake up and wrestle control of the goobermnt back
from crooked politicians.

Sure.
How?
Use the corruption flawed system we have named vote?
So, How?
mao

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Therein lies the problem. In recent elections, I have voted against 
people rather than for them. A sad commentary on politics in your 
country and mine.


Randy


Yes,  we have poor choices, because the people who would make good 
candidates are out working, and the ne'er do wells on the dole(and 
shysters) have time to run, and like the self importance.


The cures are to turn off the tube, forget sports and get good people 
to run for local office.  We have to have a farm team first.


Another problem is that both parties are owned by socialists of one 
flavor or another.  Hardcore marxist/communist vs socialist, and all 
of them pretend to be something else to get elected.   The founders 
warned us against political parties, and we quickly ignored their 
advice.


TO illustrate:  look at our pathetic choices for prez:

Bush, dole, bush, mclame,and Willard.  All socialists.  Pillary, and 
O'Bungler  Hardcore marxist/communist


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Snowmobile repair

2014-01-13 Thread OK Don
http://hitchcockaviation.com/images/LH4000.jpg
http://hitchcockaviation.com/images/Fepco_180_on_L_3000.jpg


On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 I had no idea that Cessna made a snowmobile??





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They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775
in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.
- Benjamin Franklin 1789
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[MBZ] OT: FAA pilot certification

2014-01-13 Thread Mitch Haley

Twenty years later, is there any mainstream consensus on the Bob Hoover affair?

Bob always said that he passed every mental and medical health test he ever 
took.

The FAA doctor who grounded him says he was messed in the head, but later 
miraculously recovered, so the FAA wasn't admitting an error when it reinstated 
him.



http://www.centercomp.com/dc3/12.html

http://www.faa.gov/other_visit/aviation_industry/designees_delegations/designee_types/ame/fasmb/editorials_jj/bobhoover/
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Flying Snowmobiles

2014-01-13 Thread Randy Bennell

Hey, I am impressed.

That was a good comeback.

Randy

On 13/01/2014 1:41 PM, OK Don wrote:

http://hitchcockaviation.com/images/LH4000.jpg
http://hitchcockaviation.com/images/Fepco_180_on_L_3000.jpg


On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:


I had no idea that Cessna made a snowmobile??








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Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew

2014-01-13 Thread Larry T
I blame the media for keeping a lot of good people out of politics.  Who 
in their right mind would put themselves in that kind of magnifying 
glass?  Plus, the media is obviously left wing and will attack any 
conservative candidate at every opportunity, real, imaginedor fabricated.


They went through Sarah Palin's garbage and even moved someone in next 
door to her.  But we know almost nothing about obama's history before 
becoming a senator,  and precious little even then!   We have his 
memoirs/autobiographies - who has accomplished enough in their 30s to 
rate one book much less 2.I doubt we'll ever see the main stream 
media fully vet obama and put the info on the nightly news.


Sincerely,
Larry

On 1/13/2014 12:53 PM, Dieselhead wrote:

On 10/01/2014 6:05 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

Dieselhead wrote:

It is time
for the sheep in the US to wake up and wrestle control of the 
goobermnt back

from crooked politicians.

Sure.
How?
Use the corruption flawed system we have named vote?
So, How?
mao

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Therein lies the problem. In recent elections, I have voted against 
people rather than for them. A sad commentary on politics in your 
country and mine.


Randy


Yes,  we have poor choices, because the people who would make good 
candidates are out working, and the ne'er do wells on the dole(and 
shysters) have time to run, and like the self importance.


The cures are to turn off the tube, forget sports and get good people 
to run for local office.  We have to have a farm team first.


Another problem is that both parties are owned by socialists of one 
flavor or another.  Hardcore marxist/communist vs socialist, and all 
of them pretend to be something else to get elected.   The founders 
warned us against political parties, and we quickly ignored their advice.


TO illustrate:  look at our pathetic choices for prez:

Bush, dole, bush, mclame,and Willard.  All socialists.  Pillary, and 
O'Bungler  Hardcore marxist/communist


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Re: [MBZ] Unwarranted attention for andrew

2014-01-13 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com

On 1/12/2014 4:41 PM, Dieselhead wrote:

Ok
--R (sent from my miniPad)

So andrew, do you do domestic spying or international?


I looked him up.  It's much more dangerous than either of those.
Gerry






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Re: [MBZ] Unwarranted attention for andrew

2014-01-13 Thread Dieselhead

On 1/12/2014 4:41 PM, Dieselhead wrote:

Ok
--R (sent from my miniPad)

So andrew, do you do domestic spying or international?


I looked him up.  It's much more dangerous than either of those.
Gerry








So andrew is our resident assassin?  Like in Shogun?

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Re: [MBZ] Unwarranted attention for andrew

2014-01-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Keep it up. You're getting warmer...

On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 1/12/2014 4:41 PM, Dieselhead wrote:

 Ok
 --R (sent from my miniPad)

 So andrew, do you do domestic spying or international?


 I looked him up.  It's much more dangerous than either of those.
 Gerry






 So andrew is our resident assassin?  Like in Shogun?


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Re: [MBZ] OT: FAA pilot certification

2014-01-13 Thread OK Don
I haven't heard of any more news on the matter. The first link you posted
was new to me, though I do find it interesting that the FAA staffer who
testified for Bob was fired - it at least looks bad.
I met Bob at an airshow in the '70's - what a great pilot and a fine
gentleman.


On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Twenty years later, is there any mainstream consensus on the Bob Hoover
 affair?

 Bob always said that he passed every mental and medical health test he
 ever took.

 The FAA doctor who grounded him says he was messed in the head, but later
 miraculously recovered, so the FAA wasn't admitting an error when it
 reinstated him.


 http://www.centercomp.com/dc3/12.html

 http://www.faa.gov/other_visit/aviation_industry/designees_delegations/
 designee_types/ame/fasmb/editorials_jj/bobhoover/
 Mitch.

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They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775
in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.
- Benjamin Franklin 1789
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[MBZ] 1967 250S

2014-01-13 Thread Rich Thomas
I just saw that car at the grocery store down the road, it looked brand 
new, the tires were barely dirty,  ivory with dark brown interior, it 
was gorgeous.


--R



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Flying Snowmobiles

2014-01-13 Thread OK Don
Well, the subject was on my mind when I was grounded due to the snow cover
on our  grass runway a few weeks ago, and I don't have skiis!


On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 Hey, I am impressed.

 That was a good comeback.

 Randy

 On 13/01/2014 1:41 PM, OK Don wrote:

 http://hitchcockaviation.com/images/LH4000.jpg
 http://hitchcockaviation.com/images/Fepco_180_on_L_3000.jpg


 On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
 wrote:

  I had no idea that Cessna made a snowmobile??






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They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775
in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.
- Benjamin Franklin 1789
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Flying Snowmobiles

2014-01-13 Thread Randy Bennell
The Buffalo Airways folks on the Ice Pilots TV show put skiis on a DC3 a 
couple of seasons back if I recall correctly.


Buffalo Joe also bought an antique snow plane and drove it around on a 
recent show. Basically a shell on skiis with an aircraft engine on the 
back with a prop. Sort of a predecessor fo the snowmobile in the north.


Randy

On 13/01/2014 4:55 PM, OK Don wrote:

Well, the subject was on my mind when I was grounded due to the snow cover
on our  grass runway a few weeks ago, and I don't have skiis!


On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:


Hey, I am impressed.

That was a good comeback.

Randy

On 13/01/2014 1:41 PM, OK Don wrote:


http://hitchcockaviation.com/images/LH4000.jpg
http://hitchcockaviation.com/images/Fepco_180_on_L_3000.jpg


On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
wrote:

  I had no idea that Cessna made a snowmobile??











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Re: [MBZ] Unwarranted attention for andrew

2014-01-13 Thread Randy Bennell

On 13/01/2014 4:23 PM, Dieselhead wrote:

On 1/12/2014 4:41 PM, Dieselhead wrote:

Ok
--R (sent from my miniPad)

So andrew, do you do domestic spying or international?


I looked him up.  It's much more dangerous than either of those.
Gerry








So andrew is our resident assassin?  Like in Shogun?

It would appear he may use a squash raquet as the weapon of choice based 
upon a quick search.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Unwarranted attention for andrew

2014-01-13 Thread Dieselhead

Keep it up. You're getting warmer...

On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


  On 1/12/2014 4:41 PM, Dieselhead wrote:



 Ok

 --R (sent from my miniPad)


 So andrew, do you do domestic spying or international?



 I looked him up.  It's much more dangerous than either of those.

  Gerry
 


You're the guy who traded Dirty harry reed's worthless desert land 
for land next to lost wages so he could sell it to developers for big 
bucks before the second great depression.


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Re: [MBZ] Flying snowmobiles

2014-01-13 Thread Curt Raymond
Geez it never occurred to me to post this:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xBz_KsI0DbY/S0qLzLIU8pI/ALQ/sdzWo6g-QkY/s1600/pond_plane.jpg


A couple years ago Angie and I were out snowmobiling and spotted this little 
guy landed on Lake Dennison. If you google it you'll see the lake isn't very 
big, the plane looked VERY small. It was out in the middle of the lake and 
since you're not supposed to snowmobile on the lake and we didn't want to walk 
we didn't get near it to see how big it really was but it didn't look big...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:41:45 -0600
From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Snowmobile repair
Message-ID:
    canzcij_fydfddcxms_0pygqboo6pbfug40a5uuv8hbr9a1y...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

http://hitchcockaviation.com/images/LH4000.jpg
http://hitchcockaviation.com/images/Fepco_180_on_L_3000.jpg


On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 I had no idea that Cessna made a snowmobile??





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in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.
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[MBZ] OT: another generator project

2014-01-13 Thread Mitch Haley

Just bought a Subaru engined 3650 watt Husky generator.
Haven't found a model number on it yet, but it appears to be a HU3650 or 
descendant thereof.


Machine looks nearly new.
Story is the original owner dropped it and broke the air box but nothing else is 
wrong with it.


Generator is still mounted to engine, but both were removed from chassis.
Fortunately all the wiring plugs into the outlet panel with one connector, so if 
I bolt up the engine mounts, plug in the wiring, and hook up the fuel lines it 
should be ready to run.


I found a parts diagram online at many sites, always the same diagram, it's got 
a muffler on it but not an air filter.


I suppose my first step it to put it back together and make sure it 
runs/generates.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Unwarranted attention for andrew

2014-01-13 Thread Mountain Man
Andrew wrote:
 Keep it up. You're getting warmer...

Andrew is a federal preacher.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running Rough...help!

2014-01-13 Thread Hendrik and Fay
I remember these, they can be cleaned with a bit of carby cleaner and 
the missus toothbrush.
From memory they do help to regulate the flow or some such thing but 
more importantly act as a last line of defence to stop nasties getting 
into the FD.
Also lets consider that the FD rebuilder makes money from rebuilding FD, 
so it may be in his interest to have these things need work on a regular 
basis but then again he probably knows more than the idiot engineers at 
Bosch.


Hendrik
who knows less than the Bosch engineers but pretends otherwise

On 13/01/14 23:47, Larry T wrote:
If the screens/filters are truly not available (try MB CLassic) I 
would add a filter in the fuel line leading to the FD.fuel has all 
kinds of crap in it which should be kept out of precision equipment 
like the FD if at all possible.


Sincerely,
Larry

On 1/12/2014 8:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Seems they put them on for a reason. Can't you move the fitting from 
the old to the new?



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Re: [MBZ] Flying snowmobiles

2014-01-13 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Ahh those Germans and their secret weapons, Ja we will invade every 
frozen pond in the Americas.


Hendrik
who just measured the temp at 38 C, so no frozen ponds here

On 14/01/14 09:51, Curt Raymond wrote:

Geez it never occurred to me to post this:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xBz_KsI0DbY/S0qLzLIU8pI/ALQ/sdzWo6g-QkY/s1600/pond_plane.jpg


A couple years ago Angie and I were out snowmobiling and spotted this little 
guy landed on Lake Dennison. If you google it you'll see the lake isn't very 
big, the plane looked VERY small. It was out in the middle of the lake and 
since you're not supposed to snowmobile on the lake and we didn't want to walk 
we didn't get near it to see how big it really was but it didn't look big...

-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running Rough...help!

2014-01-13 Thread Mitch Haley

Hendrik and Fay wrote:
I remember these, they can be cleaned with a bit of carby cleaner and 
the missus toothbrush.
 From memory they do help to regulate the flow or some such thing but 
more importantly act as a last line of defence to stop nasties getting 
into the FD.
Also lets consider that the FD rebuilder makes money from rebuilding FD, 
so it may be in his interest to have these things need work on a regular 
basis but then again he probably knows more than the idiot engineers at 
Bosch.


Reminds me of the mechanic who broke the warning indicators off brake pads when 
he installed them. He figured he'd get more money selling rotors that way.



Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running Rough...help!

2014-01-13 Thread Larry T
I believe I have 3 or 4 of the mesh screens that fit into the Banjo 
fittings feeding the Weber carbs on Porsche 911s.  (I sell Porsche Weber 
Parts) .  I'll see how many I have and est their size.  Being a fine 
mesh they are kind of flexible.


In the mean time, I suggest you visit MB Classic at 
http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/heritage/events_community/overview


They were a huge help when I needed an obscure part for my 78 240D...
http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/heritage/events_community/overview

Sincerely,
Larry

On 1/13/2014 8:02 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
I remember these, they can be cleaned with a bit of carby cleaner and 
the missus toothbrush.
From memory they do help to regulate the flow or some such thing but 
more importantly act as a last line of defence to stop nasties getting 
into the FD.
Also lets consider that the FD rebuilder makes money from rebuilding 
FD, so it may be in his interest to have these things need work on a 
regular basis but then again he probably knows more than the idiot 
engineers at Bosch.


Hendrik
who knows less than the Bosch engineers but pretends otherwise

On 13/01/14 23:47, Larry T wrote:
If the screens/filters are truly not available (try MB CLassic) I 
would add a filter in the fuel line leading to the FD.fuel has 
all kinds of crap in it which should be kept out of precision 
equipment like the FD if at all possible.


Sincerely,
Larry

On 1/12/2014 8:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Seems they put them on for a reason. Can't you move the fitting from 
the old to the new?



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Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running Rough...help!

2014-01-13 Thread Robert Koziak
The Classic Center is a great resource.  I called them today and they do not 
have the banjo fuel distributor filters.  The quest continues.



-Original Message-
From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net
To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:53 pm
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running 
Rough...help!


I believe I have 3 or 4 of the mesh screens that fit into the Banjo 
fittings feeding the Weber carbs on Porsche 911s.  (I sell Porsche Weber 
Parts) .  I'll see how many I have and est their size.  Being a fine 
mesh they are kind of flexible.

In the mean time, I suggest you visit MB Classic at 
http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/heritage/events_community/overview

They were a huge help when I needed an obscure part for my 78 240D...
http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/heritage/events_community/overview

Sincerely,
Larry

On 1/13/2014 8:02 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
 I remember these, they can be cleaned with a bit of carby cleaner and 
 the missus toothbrush.
 From memory they do help to regulate the flow or some such thing but 
 more importantly act as a last line of defence to stop nasties getting 
 into the FD.
 Also lets consider that the FD rebuilder makes money from rebuilding 
 FD, so it may be in his interest to have these things need work on a 
 regular basis but then again he probably knows more than the idiot 
 engineers at Bosch.

 Hendrik
 who knows less than the Bosch engineers but pretends otherwise

 On 13/01/14 23:47, Larry T wrote:
 If the screens/filters are truly not available (try MB CLassic) I 
 would add a filter in the fuel line leading to the FD.fuel has 
 all kinds of crap in it which should be kept out of precision 
 equipment like the FD if at all possible.

 Sincerely,
 Larry

 On 1/12/2014 8:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 Seems they put them on for a reason. Can't you move the fitting from 
 the old to the new?


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[MBZ] Customer Service

2014-01-13 Thread Dan Penoff
Damn.

Sent all 11 of my top hydraulic cylinders to Klaus at Top Hydraulics in Oregon.

He got them this morning and finished rebuilding them by the end of the day. 
They'll go out in USPS tomorrow and be back in my possession by Thursday.

Not sure if anyone here will ever have a need for top cylinders to be rebuilt, 
but if you do, I've got the guy.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Customer Service

2014-01-13 Thread Dwight Giles
So what is he charging for the rebuilds?
On Jan 13, 2014 9:14 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 Damn.

 Sent all 11 of my top hydraulic cylinders to Klaus at Top Hydraulics in
 Oregon.

 He got them this morning and finished rebuilding them by the end of the
 day. They'll go out in USPS tomorrow and be back in my possession by
 Thursday.

 Not sure if anyone here will ever have a need for top cylinders to be
 rebuilt, but if you do, I've got the guy.

 Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Customer Service

2014-01-13 Thread Dan Penoff
$630 for the set of 11 and the distributor in the top windshield frame.  That's 
sending them complete in the locks, too. He disassembles them and puts 
everything back together.

Dan 

Sent from my iPad

 On Jan 13, 2014, at 9:18 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 So what is he charging for the rebuilds?
 On Jan 13, 2014 9:14 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 Damn.
 
 Sent all 11 of my top hydraulic cylinders to Klaus at Top Hydraulics in
 Oregon.
 
 He got them this morning and finished rebuilding them by the end of the
 day. They'll go out in USPS tomorrow and be back in my possession by
 Thursday.
 
 Not sure if anyone here will ever have a need for top cylinders to be
 rebuilt, but if you do, I've got the guy.
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] Customer Service

2014-01-13 Thread Dwight Giles
Seems reasonable.  I have been scared off 129's because of the cylinders.
On Jan 13, 2014 9:38 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 $630 for the set of 11 and the distributor in the top windshield frame.
  That's sending them complete in the locks, too. He disassembles them and
 puts everything back together.

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

  On Jan 13, 2014, at 9:18 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  So what is he charging for the rebuilds?
  On Jan 13, 2014 9:14 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
  Damn.
 
  Sent all 11 of my top hydraulic cylinders to Klaus at Top Hydraulics in
  Oregon.
 
  He got them this morning and finished rebuilding them by the end of the
  day. They'll go out in USPS tomorrow and be back in my possession by
  Thursday.
 
  Not sure if anyone here will ever have a need for top cylinders to be
  rebuilt, but if you do, I've got the guy.
 
  Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] an oily question Jaime can probably answer

2014-01-13 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Having just bought some G-05 recently (in a pinch), I can say its
definitely not the same as the old MB coolant.  There is a noticeable
difference in color and viscosity if you're familiar with both.  The MB
stuff was much thicker and a bit more golden in color.

Stick with MB stuff.  Just because it all meets the same spec doesn't mean
its the same.

The new blue stuff is really quite different from the previous one.  The
most obvious difference is the old had a certain sweetness, while the new
is certainly bitter.  I suspect this is a new feature of a modern coolant,
but only my personal impression, not a professional one.

(Its best to not question how I know if a coolant is sweet or not, but lets
just say I've been deal with a lot of it lately.  I dropped off about 8
gallons for recycling during the holidays and my collection is growing
again quickly)

(And just because its blue, doesn't mean its the BMW stuff.  It could be
actually, but it really not relevant is another manufacturer uses the same,
is it?)

Jaime





On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:45 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 The only coolant system troubles I had were with cars that had the green
 anti-freeze when I bought them. Usually had to replace the radiator.
 Marshall (may he rest in peace) said the Zerex G-05 was the same as the
 official MB stuff in the US - same stuff, different bottle.


 On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Are those the ones that need resoldering now and then?
  On a related note, the topic of coolant came up on OzBenz a few days ago
  and the outcome was that nothing but stuff which is specifically MB
  approved should be used.
  Specifically someone said that they had a pile of trouble with Zerex
 G-05,
  so sometimes it is worth spending a little more on the really right
 stuff.
  Also I think Lemfoerder coolant is no longer available.
 
  Hendrik
  who has approved coolant
 
 
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: another generator project

2014-01-13 Thread Fmiser
 Mitch wrote:
 
 Just bought a Subaru engined 3650 watt Husky generator.

I rather like the Subaru Robin engines!

 Machine looks nearly new.
 Story is the original owner dropped it and broke the air box but
 nothing else is wrong with it.

Sweet!

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Flying snowmobiles

2014-01-13 Thread OK Don
A lot of ultra lights are putting skis on to play in the cold.
http://www.eaa.org/lightplaneworld/articles/1112_skis.asp

Yes Hendrik, rub it in - we've at -32 C while you are at +38 C. Wait six
months - the tables will be turned - HA!


On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ahh those Germans and their secret weapons, Ja we will invade every frozen
 pond in the Americas.

 Hendrik
 who just measured the temp at 38 C, so no frozen ponds here


 On 14/01/14 09:51, Curt Raymond wrote:

 Geez it never occurred to me to post this:

 http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xBz_KsI0DbY/S0qLzLIU8pI/
 ALQ/sdzWo6g-QkY/s1600/pond_plane.jpg


 -Curt





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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Customer Service

2014-01-13 Thread OK Don
What? You're having to rebuild the cylinders already? They aren't even 30
years yet are they? What happened to German quality?   ;-)


On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.comwrote:

 Seems reasonable.  I have been scared off 129's because of the cylinders.
 On Jan 13, 2014 9:38 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

  $630 for the set of 11 and the distributor in the top windshield frame.




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Re: [MBZ] an oily question Jaime can probably answer

2014-01-13 Thread Craig
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 21:46:57 -0500 Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
wrote:

 The new blue stuff is really quite different from the previous one.  The
 most obvious difference is the old had a certain sweetness, while the
 new is certainly bitter.  I suspect this is a new feature of a modern
 coolant, but only my personal impression, not a professional one.

It definitely is a feature of new coolant. The bitterness is to keep dogs
and cats from ingesting it and dying from liver failure.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] an oily question Jaime can probably answer

2014-01-13 Thread dseretakis
So it seems like Jaime enjoys an alcohol of a different type:)

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 13, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:

 Having just bought some G-05 recently (in a pinch), I can say its
 definitely not the same as the old MB coolant.  There is a noticeable
 difference in color and viscosity if you're familiar with both.  The MB
 stuff was much thicker and a bit more golden in color.
 
 Stick with MB stuff.  Just because it all meets the same spec doesn't mean
 its the same.
 
 The new blue stuff is really quite different from the previous one.  The
 most obvious difference is the old had a certain sweetness, while the new
 is certainly bitter.  I suspect this is a new feature of a modern coolant,
 but only my personal impression, not a professional one.
 
 (Its best to not question how I know if a coolant is sweet or not, but lets
 just say I've been deal with a lot of it lately.  I dropped off about 8
 gallons for recycling during the holidays and my collection is growing
 again quickly)
 
 (And just because its blue, doesn't mean its the BMW stuff.  It could be
 actually, but it really not relevant is another manufacturer uses the same,
 is it?)
 
 Jaime
 
 
 
 
 
 On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:45 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The only coolant system troubles I had were with cars that had the green
 anti-freeze when I bought them. Usually had to replace the radiator.
 Marshall (may he rest in peace) said the Zerex G-05 was the same as the
 official MB stuff in the US - same stuff, different bottle.
 
 
 On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Are those the ones that need resoldering now and then?
 On a related note, the topic of coolant came up on OzBenz a few days ago
 and the outcome was that nothing but stuff which is specifically MB
 approved should be used.
 Specifically someone said that they had a pile of trouble with Zerex
 G-05,
 so sometimes it is worth spending a little more on the really right
 stuff.
 Also I think Lemfoerder coolant is no longer available.
 
 Hendrik
 who has approved coolant
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Flying snowmobiles

2014-01-13 Thread Craig
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 21:20:33 -0600 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 A lot of ultra lights are putting skis on to play in the cold.
 http://www.eaa.org/lightplaneworld/articles/1112_skis.asp
 
 Yes Hendrik, rub it in - we've at -32 C while you are at +38 C. Wait six
 months - the tables will be turned - HA!

-32 C is -25.6 F. Was it really that cold in Oklahoma?


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Re: [MBZ] 1967 250S

2014-01-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Photos?


On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 I just saw that car at the grocery store down the road, it looked brand
 new, the tires were barely dirty,  ivory with dark brown interior, it was
 gorgeous.

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Re: [MBZ] Flying snowmobiles

2014-01-13 Thread OK Don
Guess I blew that mental conversion! I was trying for 1 F.


On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:


  Yes Hendrik, rub it in - we've at -32 C while you are at +38 C. Wait six
  months - the tables will be turned - HA!

 -32 C is -25.6 F. Was it really that cold in Oklahoma?


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[MBZ] OT - aviation history

2014-01-13 Thread OK Don
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6VfkKjlhXsfeature=youtu.be

Featuring Arthur Godfrey, Eastern Airlines, Chesterfields, Lockheed Super
Constellation, etc.
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Re: [MBZ] Flying snowmobiles

2014-01-13 Thread Craig
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 22:32:48 -0600 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Guess I blew that mental conversion! I was trying for 1 F.

Some quick points to commit to memory:

212 F  =  100 C  (Water boils)
 68 F  =   20 C  (STP)
 32 F  =0 C  (Water freezes)
   - 40 F  = - 40 C  (numerical values are the same)

Also remember that a change of  5 deg.C. is  9 deg.F
   10 deg.C 18 deg.F   = 1 C = 1.8 F

All other temperatures can be figured from

 C  5
    =  --- 
   F - 32   9


So 1 deg.F. would be  1*(5/9) deg.C.


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Re: [MBZ] Flying snowmobiles

2014-01-13 Thread OK Don
I was trying to do:
 C  5
  =  ---
 F - 32   9

in my head, but subtracted the 32 after multiplying by 5/9.


On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 22:32:48 -0600 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

  Guess I blew that mental conversion! I was trying for 1 F.

 Some quick points to commit to memory:

 212 F  =  100 C  (Water boils)
  68 F  =   20 C  (STP)
  32 F  =0 C  (Water freezes)
- 40 F  = - 40 C  (numerical values are the same)

 Also remember that a change of  5 deg.C. is  9 deg.F
10 deg.C 18 deg.F   = 1 C = 1.8 F

 All other temperatures can be figured from

  C  5
     =  ---
F - 32   9


 So 1 deg.F. would be  1*(5/9) deg.C.


 Craig





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Re: [MBZ] an oily question Jaime can probably answer

2014-01-13 Thread Gary Hurst
you have once again captivated my attention, young jaime.  hitherto it have
been accepted as fact that MB coolant is THE SAME as G05.  i don't believer
anyone has challenged this identity before tonight

the same sort of gospel now is being accepted about mb is now just using
the bmw antifreeze.  it might just be that they are both blue

it might also be the the new stuff is the same as the old stuff but just no
longer appealing to pets

this sounds like a case for rick knoble to sort out


On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote:

 Having just bought some G-05 recently (in a pinch), I can say its
 definitely not the same as the old MB coolant.  There is a noticeable
 difference in color and viscosity if you're familiar with both.  The MB
 stuff was much thicker and a bit more golden in color.

 Stick with MB stuff.  Just because it all meets the same spec doesn't mean
 its the same.

 The new blue stuff is really quite different from the previous one.  The
 most obvious difference is the old had a certain sweetness, while the new
 is certainly bitter.  I suspect this is a new feature of a modern coolant,
 but only my personal impression, not a professional one.

 (Its best to not question how I know if a coolant is sweet or not, but lets
 just say I've been deal with a lot of it lately.  I dropped off about 8
 gallons for recycling during the holidays and my collection is growing
 again quickly)

 (And just because its blue, doesn't mean its the BMW stuff.  It could be
 actually, but it really not relevant is another manufacturer uses the same,
 is it?)

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 On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:45 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

  The only coolant system troubles I had were with cars that had the green
  anti-freeze when I bought them. Usually had to replace the radiator.
  Marshall (may he rest in peace) said the Zerex G-05 was the same as the
  official MB stuff in the US - same stuff, different bottle.
 
 
  On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Are those the ones that need resoldering now and then?
   On a related note, the topic of coolant came up on OzBenz a few days
 ago
   and the outcome was that nothing but stuff which is specifically MB
   approved should be used.
   Specifically someone said that they had a pile of trouble with Zerex
  G-05,
   so sometimes it is worth spending a little more on the really right
  stuff.
   Also I think Lemfoerder coolant is no longer available.
  
   Hendrik
   who has approved coolant
  
  
  
  
 
 
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  safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775
  in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and
 taxes.
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  2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
  1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Flying snowmobiles

2014-01-13 Thread Fmiser
   OK Don wrote:
   
   Yes Hendrik, rub it in - we've at -32 C while you are at +38
   C. Wait six months - the tables will be turned - HA!

 Craig wrote:
 
  -32 C is -25.6 F. Was it really that cold in Oklahoma?

 OK wrote:
 
 Guess I blew that mental conversion! I was trying for 1 F.

Heh.  Then you wanted -17 C.

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Re: [MBZ] Fahrenheit and Celsius - was: Flying snowmobiles

2014-01-13 Thread Fmiser
  OK Don wrote:
 
  Guess I blew that mental conversion! I was trying for 1 F.

 Craig wrote:
 
 Some quick points to commit to memory:
 
 212 F  =  100 C  (Water boils)
  68 F  =   20 C  (STP)
  32 F  =0 C  (Water freezes)
- 40 F  = - 40 C  (numerical values are the same)
 
 Also remember that a change of  
 5 deg.C. is  9 deg.F
 10 deg.C 18 deg.F   = 1 C = 1.8 F

I don't usually don't need a precision conversion, so I use the
following  landmarks and then calculate using 2 F = 1 C.  Works
fine for weather forecasts. *smiles*
  -18 C = 0 F
0 C = 32 F
4 C = 40 F
   16 C = 61 F
   37 C = 98.6 F
   40 C = 104 F

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