Re: [MBZ] test

2014-04-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Oui oui!


On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 10:31 PM, WILTON  wrote:

> Yep.
>
> Wilt
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Re: [MBZ] test

2014-04-28 Thread WILTON

Yep.

Wilt

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Subject: [MBZ] test



are my posts coming through?

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Re: [MBZ] test

2014-04-28 Thread OK Don
Yes ---


On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] test

2014-04-28 Thread Mitch Haley

Mitch Haley wrote:

are my posts coming through?



OK, I got that one.

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[MBZ] test

2014-04-28 Thread Mitch Haley

are my posts coming through?

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Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-28 Thread Larry Turner

My apologies -- I meant to say "Dry Wall Screws"  -  Duh..  Sorry

Larry


On 4/28/2014 4:09 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:

What is a dry wall stud?

Are we talking about something different than a basic 2X4?



On 28/04/2014 2:42 PM, Larry Turner wrote:
BTW, don't  make the mistake of using dry wall studs.  You probably 
know all of this but they are much too brittle.


Good Luck -

LarryT





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Re: [MBZ] 5 5 5

2014-04-28 Thread Larry Turner

there's always a silver lining if you look hard enough!  ;-)

Larry

On 4/28/2014 3:29 PM, WILTON wrote:

But I'd bet he can hear really well.

Wilt

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 5 5 5



Fred wrote:  "/*Wilton.I'm all ears.*/"

Must be hard to wear a hat??
;-)
LarryT



On 4/27/2014 11:17 AM, Fred Moir wrote:

Wilton.I'm all ears.


From: wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 11:08:58 -0400
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 5 5 5

I'm here.  'Loud and clear.

'May hafta throw in another silly Sondy Tale or, maybe even a 
George (George

AFB, CA) Tale.  ;<)

Wilton

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Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 10:46 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 5 5 5


Tetsing 5 5 5

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred

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Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-28 Thread Mountain Man
Craig wrote:
> Well, good!

Yes - Tom at Classic is good for lotsa stuff, thankfully.
Several years ago he got me the correct number for clutch master
cylinder and I ordered it at dealer.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-28 Thread Craig
On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 15:32:51 -0700 clay  wrote:

> Retards are involved with the EPC, Tom called his tuetonic mentors and
> they told him that the NLA only applied to later editions, since the
> early cars... 116, 115, 114 used the same tumblers.  That would be a
> total screw you over to not allow people to use their cars.

Well, good!

I'm glad he was able to find out the true situation and tell you how to
order one for Froggy.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-28 Thread Mitch Haley

Craig wrote:

On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 14:53:14 -0700 clay  wrote:


Tom is aware of the NLA on 450SL tumblers, but the EPC says it applies
to all the cars, but it is not true for Froggy now.


That's not a very nice way to treat us.

What did he do?

Why is it no longer true for Froggy?



My understanding of the situation:
Ignition tumbler no longer available for some years of 107.
Tumbler available for Clay's green 450SL.
Electronics Parts Catalog says all 107 tumblers are NLA, making it hard to order 
one without calling the Classic Center.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-28 Thread clay
Retards are involved with the EPC, Tom called his tuetonic mentors and they 
told him that the NLA only applied to later editions, since the early cars... 
116, 115, 114 used the same tumblers.  That would be a total screw you over to 
not allow people to use their cars.

clay


On Apr 28, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Craig wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 14:53:14 -0700 clay  wrote:
> 
>> Tom is aware of the NLA on 450SL tumblers, but the EPC says it applies
>> to all the cars, but it is not true for Froggy now.
> 
> That's not a very nice way to treat us.
> 
> What did he do?
> 
> Why is it no longer true for Froggy?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-28 Thread Craig
On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 14:53:14 -0700 clay  wrote:

> Tom is aware of the NLA on 450SL tumblers, but the EPC says it applies
> to all the cars, but it is not true for Froggy now.

That's not a very nice way to treat us.

What did he do?

Why is it no longer true for Froggy?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-28 Thread Mitch Haley

Curt Raymond wrote:

Yeahbut you've only ever apparently worked in the city. Remember Dimitri said it was a 
cottage that later got amended to "shack".

Hell when we had the addition put on the camp dad went to get a building permit 
and had the following conversation:
Building inspector: Its a camp right?
Dad: Yeah
Building inspector: You're not going to live there full time right?

Dad: Yeah
Building inspector: Its back away from the road and can't be seen right?

Dad: Yeah
Building inspector: Why are you bothering me with it?


Redneck towns are the best. 


Until 30 years later when somebody comes along with guns drawn, feigns surprise 
that there's a domicile on your 'vacant land' without a permit, and demands that 
you tear down the 'illegal structure', or apply for a permit to bring it up to 
2013 code and pay $100k to have a power line run to it.


http://www.laweekly.com/2011-06-23/news/l-a-county-s-private-property-war/

http://www.housethehomeless.org/creating-homelessness-in-the-antelope-valley-part-1/

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-28 Thread OK Don
Excellent news!


On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 4:53 PM, clay  wrote:

> Tom is aware of the NLA on 450SL tumblers, but the EPC says it applies to
> all the cars, but it is not true for Froggy now.
>
> clay
>

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Re: [MBZ] Spam from Curt, was: Building question

2014-04-28 Thread OK Don
Some of Curt's posts still show up in spam, though some are now making it
to the inbox, but with this warning:
"*Be careful with this message.* Our systems couldn't verify that this
message was really sent by yahoo.com. You might want to avoid clicking
links or replying with personal information."


On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Yeahbut you've only ever apparently worked in the city. Remember Dimitri
> said it was a cottage that later got amended to "shack".
>
> Hell when we had the addition put on the camp dad went to get a building
> permit and had the following conversation:
> Building inspector: Its a camp right?
> Dad: Yeah
> Building inspector: You're not going to live there full time right?
>
> Dad: Yeah
> Building inspector: Its back away from the road and can't be seen right?
>
> Dad: Yeah
> Building inspector: Why are you bothering me with it?
>
>
> Redneck towns are the best. When I did my bathroom renovation a couple
> years ago it didn't occur to me to get a building permit until I'd taken
> the wall off...
>
> -Curt
>
>
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 15:47:56 -0400
> From: Dan Penoff 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Building question
> Message-ID: <4103686e-3f4a-42af-9927-f818ff2e3...@penoff.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Everywhere I have swung a hammer has required treated lumber for sill
> plates.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-28 Thread Curt Raymond
Yeahbut you've only ever apparently worked in the city. Remember Dimitri said 
it was a cottage that later got amended to "shack".

Hell when we had the addition put on the camp dad went to get a building permit 
and had the following conversation:
Building inspector: Its a camp right?
Dad: Yeah
Building inspector: You're not going to live there full time right?

Dad: Yeah
Building inspector: Its back away from the road and can't be seen right?

Dad: Yeah
Building inspector: Why are you bothering me with it?


Redneck towns are the best. When I did my bathroom renovation a couple years 
ago it didn't occur to me to get a building permit until I'd taken the wall 
off...

-Curt


Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 15:47:56 -0400
From: Dan Penoff 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Building question
Message-ID: <4103686e-3f4a-42af-9927-f818ff2e3...@penoff.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Everywhere I have swung a hammer has required treated lumber for sill plates.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-28 Thread Rich Thomas
Those studs are in compression, mostly, and if sistered to another stud, 
and fastened to an inner or outer wall in some fashion, you have no 
issues with "brittle."


--R


On 4/28/14 5:41 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:

Yes, that is a normal stud length but why would it be brittle?



On 28/04/2014 4:37 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
Cut 92 5/8" long, I believe, to make up a total of 96" (8 feet) for a 
standard 8 foot wall section using a double top plate.


Don't know the metric equivalent, sorry.

Dan

Sent from my iPad


On Apr 28, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

What is a dry wall stud?

Are we talking about something different than a basic 2X4?




On 28/04/2014 2:42 PM, Larry Turner wrote:
BTW, don't  make the mistake of using dry wall studs.  You probably 
know all of this but they are much too brittle.


Good Luck -

LarryT






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Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-28 Thread clay
Tom is aware of the NLA on 450SL tumblers, but the EPC says it applies to all 
the cars, but it is not true for Froggy now.

clay

On Apr 27, 2014, at 8:26 PM, OK Don wrote:

> If Froggy is  '74 as I suspect, he needs a tumbler from a 115 or 116,
> nothing much later. It should heave the edge cut key. It might be that Curt
> is correct, you need to clean it, and possibly need a new key, but the
> tumbler assembly might be OK.
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!
> 
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-28 Thread clay
MAgic Tom at Classic center got me a solution

clay

On Apr 26, 2014, at 5:08 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

> clay wrote:
>> Parts guy plans to call Germany...
> 
> Maybe try the classic center somewhere down in SoCal.
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-28 Thread Randy Bennell

Yes, that is a normal stud length but why would it be brittle?



On 28/04/2014 4:37 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Cut 92 5/8" long, I believe, to make up a total of 96" (8 feet) for a standard 
8 foot wall section using a double top plate.

Don't know the metric equivalent, sorry.

Dan

Sent from my iPad


On Apr 28, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

What is a dry wall stud?

Are we talking about something different than a basic 2X4?




On 28/04/2014 2:42 PM, Larry Turner wrote:
BTW, don't  make the mistake of using dry wall studs.  You probably know all of 
this but they are much too brittle.

Good Luck -

LarryT






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Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-28 Thread Dan Penoff
Cut 92 5/8" long, I believe, to make up a total of 96" (8 feet) for a standard 
8 foot wall section using a double top plate.

Don't know the metric equivalent, sorry.

Dan

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> On Apr 28, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
> 
> What is a dry wall stud?
> 
> Are we talking about something different than a basic 2X4?
> 
> 
> 
>> On 28/04/2014 2:42 PM, Larry Turner wrote:
>> BTW, don't  make the mistake of using dry wall studs.  You probably know all 
>> of this but they are much too brittle.
>> 
>> Good Luck -
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 5 5 5

2014-04-28 Thread Frederick Moir
Ross Perot and Alfred E Neuman, my heros
 
Fred Moir 
Lynn MA 
Diesel preferred.


>
> From: Larry Turner 
>To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
>Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 3:22 PM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] 5 5 5
> 
>
>Fred wrote:  "/*Wilton.I'm all ears.*/"
>
>Must be hard to wear a hat??
>;-)
>LarryT
>
>
>
>On 4/27/2014 11:17 AM, Fred Moir wrote:
>> Wilton.I'm all ears.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's "fee"!

2014-04-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Earlier years will NOT fit.  CA version is not a factor.


On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

> Classic Center, that is...
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Phillip -
>>
>> According to Tom Hanson at the MB Calasic Center, any turbo from any 1985
>> MY car will work.  Can you send me a photo?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Fmiser  wrote:
>>
>>> > Andrew wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I am offering a finder's fee to anyone who can locate a
>>> > functioning turbocharger from a *1985* W123 wagon, coupe, or
>>> > sedan.  No other MY will do.
>>>
>>> I have an '85 turbo I can sell.  But it looks just like the ones on
>>> all the other years.
>>>
>>> Oh yeah, you need an '85 California one, don't you.  I _don't_ have
>>> one of those.
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's "fee"!

2014-04-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Classic Center, that is...


On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

> Hey Phillip -
>
> According to Tom Hanson at the MB Calasic Center, any turbo from any 1985
> MY car will work.  Can you send me a photo?
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Fmiser  wrote:
>
>> > Andrew wrote:
>> >
>> > I am offering a finder's fee to anyone who can locate a
>> > functioning turbocharger from a *1985* W123 wagon, coupe, or
>> > sedan.  No other MY will do.
>>
>> I have an '85 turbo I can sell.  But it looks just like the ones on
>> all the other years.
>>
>> Oh yeah, you need an '85 California one, don't you.  I _don't_ have
>> one of those.
>>
>> --Philip
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Re: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's "fee"!

2014-04-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Hey Phillip -

According to Tom Hanson at the MB Calasic Center, any turbo from any 1985
MY car will work.  Can you send me a photo?


On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Fmiser  wrote:

> > Andrew wrote:
> >
> > I am offering a finder's fee to anyone who can locate a
> > functioning turbocharger from a *1985* W123 wagon, coupe, or
> > sedan.  No other MY will do.
>
> I have an '85 turbo I can sell.  But it looks just like the ones on
> all the other years.
>
> Oh yeah, you need an '85 California one, don't you.  I _don't_ have
> one of those.
>
> --Philip
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew's Wagon

2014-04-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Me too. My 1983 has plenty of pep anyway.


On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 2:03 PM, WILTON  wrote:

> Black interior; gonna hafta let it go.
> Trying to get us excited over the 19" wheels.  'Didn't work.
>
> Wilt
>
> - Original Message - From: "Meade Dillon" 
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> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 1:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Andrew's Wagon
>
>
>
>  Wrong color for Andrew I'll bet.
>>
>> Max Dillon,
>> Charleston SC
>> On Apr 28, 2014 1:49 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:
>>
>>  Screw that old 85 wagon, Andrew. Replace it with this;
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-
>>> giveaway/1995321-e55-amg-wagon-fs.html#post8622913
>>>
>>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-28 Thread Randy Bennell

What is a dry wall stud?

Are we talking about something different than a basic 2X4?



On 28/04/2014 2:42 PM, Larry Turner wrote:
BTW, don't  make the mistake of using dry wall studs.  You probably 
know all of this but they are much too brittle.


Good Luck -

LarryT





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Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-28 Thread WILTON
'Don't even hafta cut out the rotted part.  (Of course, cut it out if you'll 
feel better.)  Just sister another section of stud from new sill plate 
(preferably treated) up 2 to 3 feet above the rot and splice the old and new 
securely together.  'Don't hafta go all the way to top plate.  Larry, why 
can't he use "dry wall" studs.  Isn't that what goes on most studs these 
days?   :<)


Wilton (designed and built several houses with "dry wall" studs)

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To: 
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Building question


BTW, don't  make the mistake of using dry wall studs.  You probably know 
all of this but they are much too brittle.


Good Luck -

LarryT


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I have a "cottage". Really it's a tiny thing that resembles a large 
shack! I've been doing some sill repairs but some of the studs sitting on 
the rotted sill have rotted as well. I was thinking about cutting out the 
rotted bottom section,  splicing in a new piece of stud and then 
sistering it all up with another 2x4. Does the sistering stud have to 
reach all the way up to the top plate? I can't realistically do this 
because it extends through the ceiling into the second floor. Any 
thoughts?


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Re: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's "fee"!

2014-04-28 Thread Fmiser
> Andrew wrote:
> 
> I am offering a finder's fee to anyone who can locate a
> functioning turbocharger from a *1985* W123 wagon, coupe, or
> sedan.  No other MY will do.

I have an '85 turbo I can sell.  But it looks just like the ones on
all the other years.

Oh yeah, you need an '85 California one, don't you.  I _don't_ have
one of those.

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-28 Thread G Mann
I believe what you describe is what is known as a "balloon framed " house,
which is no longer legal to build.

Balloon framing used the same stud from sill plate to roof, with the second
floor attached to the stud mid point [about] . As the building ages, second
floor joists sag or go soft, the building "balloons" at the second floor,
or the whole building simply racks out of square.

First, check with your local building code people to see what they will
allow for repairs in the balloon frame home [I'm guessing many in your area
are likely built this way, since it was popular at the time. What local
codes allow will influence your ability to insure, so worth the effort to
get the straight scoop.

Sister stud repair: Not ideal, but necessary in older buildings. I like to
use a generous overlap with both glue and well spaced nails. If space
allows, I like to use the double sister method, which sandwiches the old
stud with a 2x on each side.  Is the stud 2x4 or 2x6 ?  If it was built
before 1920 it's likely full dimension lumber which means the stud will be
a full 2 inches thick x a full 4 or 6 inches thick.. modern lumber gives us
2x4's that measure 1 1/2 x 3 1/2  so you may want to rip down a thicker
piece to get correct contact with inner and outer wall with the sister
studs.

Sills of course need to be pressure treated wood on a solid foundation and
the studs re-attached properly so they don't kick out [common with the
loading on balloon framed building as the roof sags and or the second floor
sags.

Good luck, I count among my personal blessings that I'm to far away to
offer to help.. ;)))

Grant...


On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Larry Turner wrote:

> BTW, don't  make the mistake of using dry wall studs.  You probably know
> all of this but they are much too brittle.
>
> Good Luck -
>
> LarryT
>
>
> On 4/9/2013 10:14 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> I have a "cottage". Really it's a tiny thing that resembles a large
>> shack! I've been doing some sill repairs but some of the studs sitting on
>> the rotted sill have rotted as well. I was thinking about cutting out the
>> rotted bottom section,  splicing in a new piece of stud and then sistering
>> it all up with another 2x4. Does the sistering stud have to reach all the
>> way up to the top plate? I can't realistically do this because it extends
>> through the ceiling into the second floor. Any thoughts?
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-28 Thread Rich Thomas
With a moisture barrier between concrete sill or floor or whatever you 
have, and treated plates.  2x4s with replacing the bottom section and 
sistering up a few feet will work, you can put some construction 
adhesive on the splice and sister too, then a few nails to hold it all 
together.  Ain't goin nowhere.


--R (belt and suspenders)

On 4/28/14 3:47 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Everywhere I have swung a hammer has required treated lumber for sill plates.

Dan

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On Apr 28, 2014, at 3:42 PM, Larry Turner  wrote:

BTW, don't  make the mistake of using dry wall studs.  You probably know all of 
this but they are much too brittle.

Good Luck -

LarryT



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I have a "cottage". Really it's a tiny thing that resembles a large shack! I've 
been doing some sill repairs but some of the studs sitting on the rotted sill have rotted 
as well. I was thinking about cutting out the rotted bottom section,  splicing in a new 
piece of stud and then sistering it all up with another 2x4. Does the sistering stud have 
to reach all the way up to the top plate? I can't realistically do this because it 
extends through the ceiling into the second floor. Any thoughts?

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Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-28 Thread Dan Penoff
Everywhere I have swung a hammer has required treated lumber for sill plates.

Dan

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> On Apr 28, 2014, at 3:42 PM, Larry Turner  wrote:
> 
> BTW, don't  make the mistake of using dry wall studs.  You probably know all 
> of this but they are much too brittle.
> 
> Good Luck -
> 
> LarryT
> 
> 
>> On 4/9/2013 10:14 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I have a "cottage". Really it's a tiny thing that resembles a large shack! 
>> I've been doing some sill repairs but some of the studs sitting on the 
>> rotted sill have rotted as well. I was thinking about cutting out the rotted 
>> bottom section,  splicing in a new piece of stud and then sistering it all 
>> up with another 2x4. Does the sistering stud have to reach all the way up to 
>> the top plate? I can't realistically do this because it extends through the 
>> ceiling into the second floor. Any thoughts?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Building question

2014-04-28 Thread Larry Turner
BTW, don't  make the mistake of using dry wall studs.  You probably know 
all of this but they are much too brittle.


Good Luck -

LarryT


On 4/9/2013 10:14 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

I have a "cottage". Really it's a tiny thing that resembles a large shack! I've 
been doing some sill repairs but some of the studs sitting on the rotted sill have rotted 
as well. I was thinking about cutting out the rotted bottom section,  splicing in a new 
piece of stud and then sistering it all up with another 2x4. Does the sistering stud have 
to reach all the way up to the top plate? I can't realistically do this because it 
extends through the ceiling into the second floor. Any thoughts?

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Re: [MBZ] 5 5 5

2014-04-28 Thread WILTON

But I'd bet he can hear really well.

Wilt

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 5 5 5



Fred wrote:  "/*Wilton.I'm all ears.*/"

Must be hard to wear a hat??
;-)
LarryT



On 4/27/2014 11:17 AM, Fred Moir wrote:

Wilton.I'm all ears.


From: wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 11:08:58 -0400
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 5 5 5

I'm here.  'Loud and clear.

'May hafta throw in another silly Sondy Tale or, maybe even a George 
(George

AFB, CA) Tale.  ;<)

Wilton

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Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 10:46 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 5 5 5


Tetsing 5 5 5

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred

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Re: [MBZ] 5 5 5

2014-04-28 Thread Larry Turner

Fred wrote:  "/*Wilton.I'm all ears.*/"

Must be hard to wear a hat??
;-)
LarryT



On 4/27/2014 11:17 AM, Fred Moir wrote:

Wilton.I'm all ears.


From: wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 11:08:58 -0400
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 5 5 5

I'm here.  'Loud and clear.

'May hafta throw in another silly Sondy Tale or, maybe even a George (George
AFB, CA) Tale.  ;<)

Wilton

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Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 10:46 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 5 5 5


Tetsing 5 5 5

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew's Wagon

2014-04-28 Thread WILTON

Black interior; gonna hafta let it go.
Trying to get us excited over the 19" wheels.  'Didn't work.

Wilt

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Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Andrew's Wagon



Wrong color for Andrew I'll bet.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
On Apr 28, 2014 1:49 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:


Screw that old 85 wagon, Andrew. Replace it with this;


http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1995321-e55-amg-wagon-fs.html#post8622913

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew's Wagon

2014-04-28 Thread Meade Dillon
Wrong color for Andrew I'll bet.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
On Apr 28, 2014 1:49 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> Screw that old 85 wagon, Andrew. Replace it with this;
>
>
> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1995321-e55-amg-wagon-fs.html#post8622913
>
> Dan
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[MBZ] Andrew's Wagon

2014-04-28 Thread Dan Penoff
Screw that old 85 wagon, Andrew. Replace it with this;

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1995321-e55-amg-wagon-fs.html#post8622913

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's "fee"!

2014-04-28 Thread Rick Knoble
If you get manifolds and all, it should fit. Then you can do away with all that CA emissions crap.  Or just sell me the car for a reasonable price.$500 Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Andrew StrasfogelSent: Monday, April 28, 2014 6:53 AMTo: Mercedes Discussion ListReply To: Mercedes Discussion ListSubject: Re: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's "fee"!




Still looking, but it has to be from an '85.  If you send a photo that will
confirm either way.  Thanks,

Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's "fee"!

2014-04-28 Thread rmassmann

Andrew,

Engine was in an 82. I didn't see it this morning and didn't have time to 
dig. Will check again when I get back home Thursday. Sorry I can do more 
right now, but have to travel out of town to Detroit for work.


Robert
95 E300D 395 Kmiles.

-Original Message- 
From: Andrew Strasfogel

Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 7:53 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's "fee"!

Still looking, but it has to be from an '85.  If you send a photo that will
confirm either way.  Thanks,

Andrew


On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:09 AM,  wrote:


Andrew,

Have you found a turbo yet? I may have a spare that I can part with from a
300D, 123 sedan 82-85. Pulled from an engine that had a bad connecting rod
bearing.

I will take a look out in our pole barn,before I leave for Detroit this
morning.

Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio 45054
( 937 ) 725-4079 cell

-Original Message- From: Andrew Strasfogel
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 2:03 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's "fee"!


I am offering a finder's fee to anyone who can locate a functioning
turbocharger from a *1985* W123 wagon, coupe, or sedan.  No other MY will
do.

I will pay a reasonable price for the turbo, and in addition will reward
the broker with one (1) jar of my internet-famous jalapeno pepper jelly,
made from all-natural resources, including peppers grown organically in 
the
northwest Washington, D.C.  This incomparable condiment suits all 
political

persuasions: goes great with brie cheese (for liberals), oatmeal (pour les
Francais), and roast chicken and griled lamb chops (RWers).

I need this part ASAP - the turbo I purchased is defective and there is no
replacement.

Thanks in advance, and may the scavenger hunt begin.

Andrew
1983 300TD - runs great
1985 300TD - runs like a slug
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Re: [MBZ] Hatch latch.

2014-04-28 Thread WILTON
Yep.  'Had that thought, but didn't know that car had such unnecessary 
"feature."

Anything to run the cost on up, I guess.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Fred Moir" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hatch latch.



Wilton.Could be the "Pull the door closed" thingummibob.Fred.


From: wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 18:56:59 -0400
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hatch latch.

Locking actuator or locking system supply pump?

Wilt


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Re: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's "fee"!

2014-04-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Still looking, but it has to be from an '85.  If you send a photo that will
confirm either way.  Thanks,

Andrew


On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:09 AM,  wrote:

> Andrew,
>
> Have you found a turbo yet? I may have a spare that I can part with from a
> 300D, 123 sedan 82-85. Pulled from an engine that had a bad connecting rod
> bearing.
>
> I will take a look out in our pole barn,before I leave for Detroit this
> morning.
>
> Bob Massmann
> Oregonia, Ohio 45054
> ( 937 ) 725-4079 cell
>
> -Original Message- From: Andrew Strasfogel
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 2:03 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's "fee"!
>
>
> I am offering a finder's fee to anyone who can locate a functioning
> turbocharger from a *1985* W123 wagon, coupe, or sedan.  No other MY will
> do.
>
> I will pay a reasonable price for the turbo, and in addition will reward
> the broker with one (1) jar of my internet-famous jalapeno pepper jelly,
> made from all-natural resources, including peppers grown organically in the
> northwest Washington, D.C.  This incomparable condiment suits all political
> persuasions: goes great with brie cheese (for liberals), oatmeal (pour les
> Francais), and roast chicken and griled lamb chops (RWers).
>
> I need this part ASAP - the turbo I purchased is defective and there is no
> replacement.
>
> Thanks in advance, and may the scavenger hunt begin.
>
> Andrew
> 1983 300TD - runs great
> 1985 300TD - runs like a slug
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Re: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's "fee"!

2014-04-28 Thread rmassmann

Andrew,

Have you found a turbo yet? I may have a spare that I can part with from a 
300D, 123 sedan 82-85. Pulled from an engine that had a bad connecting rod 
bearing.


I will take a look out in our pole barn,before I leave for Detroit this 
morning.


Bob Massmann
Oregonia, Ohio 45054
( 937 ) 725-4079 cell

-Original Message- 
From: Andrew Strasfogel

Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 2:03 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's "fee"!

I am offering a finder's fee to anyone who can locate a functioning
turbocharger from a *1985* W123 wagon, coupe, or sedan.  No other MY will
do.

I will pay a reasonable price for the turbo, and in addition will reward
the broker with one (1) jar of my internet-famous jalapeno pepper jelly,
made from all-natural resources, including peppers grown organically in the
northwest Washington, D.C.  This incomparable condiment suits all political
persuasions: goes great with brie cheese (for liberals), oatmeal (pour les
Francais), and roast chicken and griled lamb chops (RWers).

I need this part ASAP - the turbo I purchased is defective and there is no
replacement.

Thanks in advance, and may the scavenger hunt begin.

Andrew
1983 300TD - runs great
1985 300TD - runs like a slug
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Re: [MBZ] Hatch latch.

2014-04-28 Thread Fred Moir
Dwight.It may well be past its' expiration date.Fred Moir

> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 18:03:18 -0400
> From: dwight.gi...@gmail.com
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hatch latch.
> 
> Could it be that a whirring critter in there has expired?
> On Apr 27, 2014 4:27 PM, "WILTON"  wrote:
> 
> > Or a cursory glance at the FM may be all that is necessary.  :<)
> >
> > Wilt
  
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Re: [MBZ] Hatch latch.

2014-04-28 Thread Fred Moir
Wilton.Could be the "Pull the door closed" thingummibob.Fred.

> From: wilt...@nc.rr.com
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 18:56:59 -0400
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hatch latch.
> 
> Locking actuator or locking system supply pump?
> 
> Wilt
  
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Re: [MBZ] 5 5 5

2014-04-28 Thread Fred Moir
Wilton.I'm all ears.

> From: wilt...@nc.rr.com
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 11:08:58 -0400
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 5 5 5
> 
> I'm here.  'Loud and clear.
> 
> 'May hafta throw in another silly Sondy Tale or, maybe even a George (George 
> AFB, CA) Tale.  ;<)
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Frederick Moir" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 10:46 AM
> Subject: [MBZ] 5 5 5
> 
> 
> Tetsing 5 5 5
> 
> Fred Moir
> Lynn MA
> Diesel preferred
  
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