Re: [MBZ] OT - tile floors

2014-07-19 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
That must be because the trees grow there 

I am getting 8 decent sized red cedar logs from a neighbor who hates the
trees. I need to decide how to have them cut at a local saw mill.


On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:25 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Lumber yards dominate in Maine. Much better selection, quality and price
> than Lowes/HD.
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT - tile floors

2014-07-19 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Must be LevelQuik - they make a fast setting version, sold at Home Despot,
and a slow setting version that you can only get from commercial
distributors - whom I am going to call Monday morning in hopes of scoring
some.


On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Meade Dillon  wrote:

> When I did our kitchen floor, first I tried the so-called "self leveling"
> stuff from Lowes, but it was too thick and didn't flow out, so I had to
> trowel it around.  I needed a bit more, decided to try the Home Despot
> stuff, and it was far superior.  I wish I remembered the name.
>
> You want it to be almost like milk, so it really flows.
>
>
> -Max
>



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Anyone for Dropbox?

2014-07-19 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Oracle is medium data. Big Data is what the NSA collects, and other
collections like it. Google, for instance, has Big Data that it mines about
us to sell to advertisers.


On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> OK Don wrote:
> > It's used for "Big Data" projects ---
>
> What is "Big Data" versus Oracle?
> mao
>



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Re: [MBZ] OT - tile floors

2014-07-19 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Lumber yards dominate in Maine. Much better selection, quality and price than 
Lowes/HD.

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> On Jul 19, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Too bad, we have a fair amount of local yards, one within 1/2 mile of my 
> house even. They focus on service and seem to be doing pretty well.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> From: OK Don via Mercedes 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 6:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - tile floors
> 
> 
> There aren't many of those left around here - mostly specialty wood for
> furniture makers. Lowest and Home Despot have driven the rest out of
> business . . .
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The 10 most corrupt states in the U.S.

2014-07-19 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 20:54:52 -0500 Hertzing via Mercedes
 wrote:

> In Illinois we hope to capitalize on corruption by making it a tourist
> attraction

A candidate for the new state motto?

My wife grew up in Joliet. She agrees about the corruption.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT iPhone battery cost?

2014-07-19 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 22:18:27 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Update: it's ALIVE!
> 
> Turns out the screen was dim because it's still water-logged.  Removed
> the back again, leaving the phone charger plugged in, and little by
> little the water is clearing from the screen.

Congratulations!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT iPhone battery cost?

2014-07-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Update: it's ALIVE!

Turns out the screen was dim because it's still water-logged.  Removed the
back again, leaving the phone charger plugged in, and little by little the
water is clearing from the screen.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The 10 most corrupt states in the U.S.

2014-07-19 Thread Hertzing via Mercedes
Don't forget we had two former governors on jail at the same time  In 
Illinois we hope to capitalize on corruption by making it a tourist attraction

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> On Jul 19, 2014, at 7:37 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Peter wrote:
>> ...which is why I have no desire to return to
>> Illinois.  Long, very bad reputation for that State.
> 
> Why of course.
> This is the state of Chicago, essentially.
> You know... home to Al Capone, etc and the Daily clan that brings you
> the current prez.
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Healthiest States to retire in

2014-07-19 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
OK Don wrote:
> The biggest fear for retirees is outliving their money.

What's this thing you call... money? - What's that?
Life ain't all that much, so, I suspect death might be better? - it
happens to all of us.
And, historically retirement is not in the lexicon.  However, when
laid off 4 years prior to earliest social security, and dead market
for jobs, I guess some are being forced to tax the
sovereign-fiat-currency state with retirement entitlement draws.
Maybe it will work.  If not... death, I guess.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Branching out in the MB family

2014-07-19 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Mitch wrote:
> I always wondered why the hwy mpg stinks for such a small car.
>

I always wondered why mpg was the Carter gig of the '70's and then it
died so we have bigger gas guzzlers and more on the road than ever.
What gives?  This is progress?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - tile floors

2014-07-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Too bad, we have a fair amount of local yards, one within 1/2 mile of my house 
even. They focus on service and seem to be doing pretty well.

-Curt



 From: OK Don via Mercedes 
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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - tile floors
 

There aren't many of those left around here - mostly specialty wood for
furniture makers. Lowest and Home Despot have driven the rest out of
business . . .
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Re: [MBZ] Branching out in the MB family

2014-07-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I meant the B class that Jamie was talking about

The Smart website says they start at $12,490. Oh wait, the main Smart EV page 
says that for the starting price, when you go to the build page it says 
$25,000. Quite deceptive.

-Curt



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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Branching out in the MB family
 

How much does it cost though? The Smart IIRC is something like $13-14k...

-Curt

*Go back to the 3:32 message from John ---*

"Outright purchase is $25,750 and BAP adds $80/month..."

*and*

"Downpayment would be $3250 or so, $143.80/month for 36 mos, and Maryland
will send you a credit for $2,200 ($125/kWh capacity * 17.6kWh...)  that's
stupidly cheap to rent/lease!

MBUSA retains ownership of the battery and gets the $7500 federal tax
credit. (You get the glider and "rent" the battery).

If you opt NOT to go the rent-a-battery route (no battery assurance plus,
then it's $3759 down and $370 a month...), but you get a $7500 tax credit
from the Feds... The big difference is the RV at end of lease; $6695 for
no-BAP, $13929 for BAP...

Lease is based on 10k/yr/30k on lease, but there is a certain challenge
associated with going more than 10k/yr with a car that gets 80 or so miles
on a 8hr (240V)/16hr (120V) charge..."

*I like his thinking - "*But where will EV tech be in 3 years, and will
anyone want a 3yr old EV in 3yrs?"

*Lease it for three years and then it's not your problem anymore!*

>
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT: The 10 most corrupt states in the U.S.

2014-07-19 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Peter wrote:
> ...which is why I have no desire to return to
> Illinois.  Long, very bad reputation for that State.

Why of course.
This is the state of Chicago, essentially.
You know... home to Al Capone, etc and the Daily clan that brings you
the current prez.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT Senior Traffic Stop

2014-07-19 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Max wrote:
> A little humor for your Saturday morning...

http://thedamienzone.com/2012/01/27/old-lady-with-guns-in-car-minnesota-state-trooper/
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Junkyard score

2014-07-19 Thread LarryT via Mercedes

Hi Max  --
I plan to keep an eye on these yards and will be happy to watch for 
stuff you need - I assume 87-ish 300D and mid 91-94 300TE (I'm just 
guessing)?   My health dictates when I can get in and pull the stuff 
unfortunately.The good thing is these yards seems to cycle through a 
lot of cars.   The downside is they only keep a car for 30 days before 
sending them to the scrap yard.So ya gotta get what you want quick 
or it'll be gone - not by another car-nut but the scrapper!   Really 
irritated me when I went back to get some stuff off a 91 300D just like 
mine only to find it gone. Bummer...


LarryT

On 7/19/2014 8:14 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Yesterday I went to a junkyard in Richmond (was there in business trip) and
brought home the following from an '87 300D:
-Nearly new Nissens radiator
-Engine wiring harness, good condition
-set of metal injector lines
-pre-glow relay
-all relays from behind fuses
-left front inner fender cover for oil cooler
-various switches from the center console

Next, I took from a '93 300TE:
-Tandem power steering pump
-SLS control valve

Great fun! I also found a few bits for my wife's Infiniti.

The down side was I missed a meeting with Tim Crone.  Sorry Tim!  Please
accept a rain check for later...

We just don't have such wealth in the junkyards down here.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Anyone for Dropbox?

2014-07-19 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
OK Don wrote:
> It's used for "Big Data" projects ---

What is "Big Data" versus Oracle?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay

2014-07-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Terminal fifteen (red/black wire) to power.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
 On Jul 19, 2014 7:07 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:

> A 617 car
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 19, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Meade Dillon  wrote:
>
> Depends on which car I guess...
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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>> What 2 pins on glow plug relay do you jump to activate the relay?
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay

2014-07-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Depends on which car I guess...


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Re: [MBZ] OT - tile floors

2014-07-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
When I did our kitchen floor, first I tried the so-called "self leveling"
stuff from Lowes, but it was too thick and didn't flow out, so I had to
trowel it around.  I needed a bit more, decided to try the Home Despot
stuff, and it was far superior.  I wish I remembered the name.

You want it to be almost like milk, so it really flows.


-Max
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[MBZ] OT - Healthiest States to retire in

2014-07-19 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Da** - another worst five list that OK makes:

The biggest fear for retirees is outliving their money. Medical expenses
are a big reason for that concern.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), adults
65 and older spend almost twice as much on health care each year as 45- to
64-year-olds -- three to five times more than all adults younger than 65.

Also, nearly 80 percent of seniors have been diagnosed with at least one
chronic condition, while half suffer from at least two ailments.

But seniors are becoming more active. Physical inactivity among older
Americans declined from 30.3 percent to 28.7 percent in the past year, as
reported by the United Health Foundation.

Compiling data from more than 12 government agencies and research
organizations, the foundation's annual state rankings of senior health are
based on 34 measures of well-being.

*Winning top honors as the healthiest state for the second year in a row:
Minnesota.*

The state ranked first for all health determinants combined, including
placing in the top five for a high rate of dental visits, a high percentage
of volunteerism, a high percentage of quality nursing home beds, a low
percentage of marginal food insecurity, a high percentage of prescription
drug coverage, and ready availability of home health care workers.

"We commissioned this report to understand and identify ways to improve
seniors' health because Americans are living longer and the senior
population will double in size over the next 25 years," said Reed Tuckson,
M.D., senior medical advisor to United Health Foundation.

"It's time to shift our focus from how long Americans are living, to how
well we're living," Tuckson said. "We want this report to encourage seniors
and the people in their lives to be more active, to talk about end-of-life
plans and to live the best lives we all can."

*The "healthiest state" runner-up is Hawaii, followed by New Hampshire,
Vermont and Massachusetts. Mississippi was tagged as the least healthy
state for Americans 65 and up, followed by Louisiana, Kentucky, Oklahoma
and Arkansas.*

The report notes that many challenges face older Americans, with more than
one quarter of seniors obese and 28 percent physically inactive.

"Chronic illnesses such as obesity, diabetes and heart disease not only
affect seniors' overall health but place pressure on families, caregivers
and our health care system," said Tuckson.

"These challenges will only intensify as the senior population continues to
grow. It's critical that we work together -- individuals, families,
communities, states and the health care system -- to develop solutions that
address chronic illness among seniors and lay the groundwork for improved
health for generations to come."

http://t.money.msn.com/retirement/the-healthiest-states-for-retirement
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Re: [MBZ] OT - tile floors

2014-07-19 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
There aren't many of those left around here - mostly specialty wood for
furniture makers. Lowest and Home Despot have driven the rest out of
business . . .


On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You need to try a better class of lumberyard. We've got one near here that
> keeps ALL of their lumber indoors all the time. They sell super high
> quality stuff. They get a pretty penny for it but theres no picking around
> for the most straight 2x4s like you do at Home Despot.
>
> -Curt
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Branching out in the MB family

2014-07-19 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
How much does it cost though? The Smart IIRC is something like $13-14k...

-Curt

*Go back to the 3:32 message from John ---*

"Outright purchase is $25,750 and BAP adds $80/month..."

*and*

"Downpayment would be $3250 or so, $143.80/month for 36 mos, and Maryland
will send you a credit for $2,200 ($125/kWh capacity * 17.6kWh...)  that's
stupidly cheap to rent/lease!

MBUSA retains ownership of the battery and gets the $7500 federal tax
credit. (You get the glider and "rent" the battery).

If you opt NOT to go the rent-a-battery route (no battery assurance plus,
then it's $3759 down and $370 a month...), but you get a $7500 tax credit
from the Feds... The big difference is the RV at end of lease; $6695 for
no-BAP, $13929 for BAP...

Lease is based on 10k/yr/30k on lease, but there is a certain challenge
associated with going more than 10k/yr with a car that gets 80 or so miles
on a 8hr (240V)/16hr (120V) charge..."

*I like his thinking - "*But where will EV tech be in 3 years, and will
anyone want a 3yr old EV in 3yrs?"

*Lease it for three years and then it's not your problem anymore!*

>
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT - tile floors

2014-07-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
You need to try a better class of lumberyard. We've got one near here that 
keeps ALL of their lumber indoors all the time. They sell super high quality 
stuff. They get a pretty penny for it but theres no picking around for the most 
straight 2x4s like you do at Home Despot.

-Curt



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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - tile floors
 

‎Original Message  
From: G Mann via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 2:27 PM
To: Craig; Mercedes Discussion List
Reply To: G Mann
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - tile floors

>A good straight 2X4 will work nicely to
>establish the "new smooth floor height".  
Good luck finding one of those...

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Re: [MBZ] Junkyard score

2014-07-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Just out of curiosity, how much did all this cost you?

I am so out of the P&P thing I wonder what they charge for stuff these days.  
Used to be pennies on the dollar, especially if you did the pulling...

Dan

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> Yesterday I went to a junkyard in Richmond (was there in business trip) and
> brought home the following from an '87 300D:
> -Nearly new Nissens radiator
> -Engine wiring harness, good condition
> -set of metal injector lines
> -pre-glow relay
> -all relays from behind fuses
> -left front inner fender cover for oil cooler
> -various switches from the center console
> 
> Next, I took from a '93 300TE:
> -Tandem power steering pump
> -SLS control valve
> 
> Great fun! I also found a few bits for my wife's Infiniti.
> 
> The down side was I missed a meeting with Tim Crone.  Sorry Tim!  Please
> accept a rain check for later...
> 
> We just don't have such wealth in the junkyards down here.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Branching out in the MB family

2014-07-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
How much does it cost though? The Smart IIRC is something like $13-14k...

-Curt



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To: John Reames ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Branching out in the MB family
 

Oh yeah, I missed this part about the ED...  I've driven one briefly...
not long enough to form an opinion.

Have you considered the new B class EV?  I've drive that much more... very
nice car.  It has the benefits of a back seat, storage space, and it goes
like hell.  I was really impressed.  I forget the calculations exactly, but
I determined my commute would cost a fraction of what it normally would
with a gas car.  My commute is 45 miles each way... a charger on each end
means lots of flexibility and no range concerns.

Jaime



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> Fuel mileage with the -ed (electric drive) is non-existent. (And they have
> a charging station in the garage where I park...)
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> > On Jul 19, 2014, at 9:46, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
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> > I would not get a smart. They are very very small and really do not get
> all that good fuel mileage
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> >> On Jul 19, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
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> >> The new smart was just announced... It might be worth while to wait!
> >>
> >> Jaime
> >>
> >>
> >> On Saturday, July 19, 2014, John Reames via Mercedes <
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> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> My usual commute is to the train station; one of the 210.025's has BAD
> >>> rust issues.
> >>>
> >>> Gonna go get SMART-ed ;)
> >>>
> >>> Any thoughts?
> >>>
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[MBZ] Fwd: Junkyard score

2014-07-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Just realized this only went to Dan...

-- Forwarded message --
From: Meade Dillon 
Date: Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Junkyard score
To: Dan Penoff 


Dan, Andrew;

Let's see, this little adventure cost me:
- A missed opportunity to see Tim
- about 8 hours of my time
- sunburn on neck and arms
- three cuts on left hand, two on right

Prices were quite fair, but I would be happier if this yard was local so I
could take advantage of their return / refund policy if anything is no
good.  Here are the prices for some of the more significant things:

$46 for the radiator ($10 core which I cannot get back)
$17 each for headlight switch, pre-glow relay
$20 for the engine wiring harness
$7 each for the metal fuel lines, $42 total
$20 for the tandem power steering pump
$8 for the SLS hydraulic control valve
$2 for small relays
$5 for dash switches (hazard, antenna, interior light)

So all told about $300 for Benz stuff.  They charged taxes and an
"environmental charge", which amount to about 10% total.

-Max
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Re: [MBZ] OT iPhone battery cost?

2014-07-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Thanks Mitch, we may have escaped with just a little inconvenience, but I
need  to evaluate further.

Bought some tools, watched a couple YouTube videos, printed out an iRevive
screw chart, took it all apart and cleaned/rinsed/soaked liberally with
isopropyl alcohol, scrubbed off the two corrosion spots (one at battery
connection, one at what I think is the screen connection), dried with a
blow drier and put it all back together.  The dock connection and charging
cable also had a little green corrosion going on, so a little Deoxit there
did the trick.

Hurray!!!  The phone seems to be charging, gives the battery charging
symbol when plugged in, but very faint like the screen is not getting any
back-light.

I'll let it charge a bit, then try to turn on and access via USB cable to
PC.  At a minimum, getting all my wife's contacts off the phone would be
huge.  I recently downloaded/saved all the pictures/videos (about a month
ago) so not too much video record may have been lost.

-Max
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Re: [MBZ] Branching out in the MB family

2014-07-19 Thread John Reames via Mercedes
The ed version is limited to about 80mph... But still :)

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> On Jul 19, 2014, at 16:48, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Leasing an E-Smart sounds like a good fit for your mission profile. I've
> had Smart cars pass me when I was driving 75 on the interstate - can't be
> that bad a highway car ---
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 3:32 PM, John Reames via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> They don't seem to have the B-EV's here.
>> 
>> The smart feels solid.
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
>> But where will EV tech be in 3 years, and will anyone want a 3yr old EV in
>> 3yrs?
>> 
>> In my specific case I'm looking for something to take me to and from the
>> train station and maybe some around town driving... And maybe raise
>> awareness...
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Re: [MBZ] OT - tile floors

2014-07-19 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I did this recently in my bathroom, which isn't that large but I think I 
ran through 2 bags of self leveling stuff over plywood.  It might not 
have been 50lb bags though, but I think it pretty much filled a 5gal 
bucket.


It did not seem to set up that fast, and mixing it with a drill mixer 
did not take too long if you pour a bit at a time of the powder into the 
water/mix.  But doing 250sqft might take longer to do enough.  Mine was 
fairly runny, which I guess is what makes it self-level.


I put down the Kerdi stuff over the leveling using thinset, it is a 
plastic waffle-like sheet stuff that will provide a bit of give under 
the tile, which you also put down with thinset and a notched trowel, to 
keep it from cracking as things expand and contract and move.  Not cheap 
stuff, but reportedly quite good for the purpose. THey sell it at Lowes.


--R


On 7/19/14 1:36 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

We are trying to prepare the 250 sq. ft. concrete floor of what was once an
auto shop (that repaired a few MB's - MB content) for 18" square ceramic
tiles. The concrete is not all that level or smooth. We poured eight bags
of "self leveling underlayment" on it and improved some areas, made others
worse.

The instructions I read/watched all used a ½" electric drill to mix the 50
lb. bag of cement like stuff into 5 qts/liters of water. I literally burnt
up the Harbor Freight ½" drill on the fifth bag, switched to an old fixed
speed 3/8th " drill, pulsing it to finish. I think we weren't able to keep
mixing and pouring fast enough to keep up with the drying of the previous
pour.

I'm considering using our home owner sized cement mixer, but wondered who
has BTDT, and been successful?

Also, this cement mixer has a 24" long barrel that is 19" at the base and
16" at the throat. How many bags of sakrete should it be able to mix at
once? If two 80 lb bags, should I be able to mix three 50 lb bags of "self
leveling underlayment" at once???
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Re: [MBZ] OT - tile floors

2014-07-19 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎Original Message  
From: G Mann via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 2:27 PM
To: Craig; Mercedes Discussion List
Reply To: G Mann
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - tile floors

>A good straight 2X4 will work nicely to
>establish the "new smooth floor height".  
Good luck finding one of those...

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Re: [MBZ] Branching out in the MB family

2014-07-19 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Leasing an E-Smart sounds like a good fit for your mission profile. I've
had Smart cars pass me when I was driving 75 on the interstate - can't be
that bad a highway car ---


On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 3:32 PM, John Reames via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> They don't seem to have the B-EV's here.
>
> The smart feels solid.
>
> 
>


> But where will EV tech be in 3 years, and will anyone want a 3yr old EV in
> 3yrs?
>
> In my specific case I'm looking for something to take me to and from the
> train station and maybe some around town driving... And maybe raise
> awareness...
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>
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT - tile floors

2014-07-19 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 2:27 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I have no idea how rough your floor is, however I've done some pretty rough
> floors in the past.


This floor has two spots 1/3 room width from one wall that are about 1"
higher than the low spots.


>  I always used a straight edge to identify high and low
> spots and troweled on the material. A good straight 2X4 will work nicely to
> establish the "new smooth floor height".


The floor is 18 ft. long --- I've identified the high spots, it's getting
the low ones filled smoothly up to the high ones that's the problem.


>   A round corner trowel 24 inches
> long with a good handle should float the material smooth.
>

Yes, I need to get one of those! Mine is too small for this job.


>
> Seems to me you are trying to poor an entire new cap, which isn't what the
> material you are using is made for, from my experience.
>

Yes, the "self leveling underlayment is for pouring a new cap from 1/16" to
2" thick.


>
> When you lay the tile, use a notch trowel with deep enough notches [ I
> prefer square notch pattern] so that you seat the tile for height as you
> lay them [use the plastic "X" spacers for good edge distance also] .
> Should end up with a nice level floor that way after grout.
>
> Of course, keep pain meds handy for following day after laying tile.. ;))
>

Well stocked already !


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Re: [MBZ] OT - tile floors

2014-07-19 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 12:27:54 -0700 G Mann  wrote:

> When you lay the tile, use a notch trowel with deep enough notches [ I
> prefer square notch pattern] so that you seat the tile for height as you
> lay them [use the plastic "X" spacers for good edge distance also] .
> Should end up with a nice level floor that way after grout.

The guy who did our tile used a 3/8x3/8" square notched trowel. The
resulting tile isn't entirely at the same height. Another tile guy said
for 18" tiles one should use a 1/2x1/2" square notched trowel.


> Of course, keep pain meds handy for following day after laying
> tile.. ;))

I didn't find out about that aspect of the job ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - tile floors

2014-07-19 Thread John Reames via Mercedes
How about using the compound under some 1/2" wonderboard?

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> On Jul 19, 2014, at 13:36, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> We are trying to prepare the 250 sq. ft. concrete floor of what was once an
> auto shop (that repaired a few MB's - MB content) for 18" square ceramic
> tiles. The concrete is not all that level or smooth. We poured eight bags
> of "self leveling underlayment" on it and improved some areas, made others
> worse.
> 
> The instructions I read/watched all used a ½" electric drill to mix the 50
> lb. bag of cement like stuff into 5 qts/liters of water. I literally burnt
> up the Harbor Freight ½" drill on the fifth bag, switched to an old fixed
> speed 3/8th " drill, pulsing it to finish. I think we weren't able to keep
> mixing and pouring fast enough to keep up with the drying of the previous
> pour.
> 
> I'm considering using our home owner sized cement mixer, but wondered who
> has BTDT, and been successful?
> 
> Also, this cement mixer has a 24" long barrel that is 19" at the base and
> 16" at the throat. How many bags of sakrete should it be able to mix at
> once? If two 80 lb bags, should I be able to mix three 50 lb bags of "self
> leveling underlayment" at once???
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Re: [MBZ] Branching out in the MB family

2014-07-19 Thread John Reames via Mercedes
They don't seem to have the B-EV's here.

The smart feels solid.

Downpayment would be $3250 or so, $143.80/month for 36 mos, and Maryland will 
send you a credit for $2,200 ($125/kWh capacity * 17.6kWh...)  that's stupidly 
cheap to rent/lease!

MBUSA retains ownership of the battery and gets the $7500 federal tax credit. 
(You get the glider and "rent" the battery).

If you opt NOT to go the rent-a-battery route (no battery assurance plus, then 
it's $3759 down and $370 a month...), but you get a $7500 tax credit from the 
Feds... The big difference is the RV at end of lease; $6695 for no-BAP, $13929 
for BAP...

Lease is based on 10k/yr/30k on lease, but there is a certain challenge 
associated with going more than 10k/yr with a car that gets 80 or so miles on a 
8hr (240V)/16hr (120V) charge...

Outright purchase is $25,750 and BAP adds $80/month...

But where will EV tech be in 3 years, and will anyone want a 3yr old EV in 3yrs?

In my specific case I'm looking for something to take me to and from the train 
station and maybe some around town driving... And maybe raise awareness...
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> Oh yeah, I missed this part about the ED...  I've driven one briefly...  not 
> long enough to form an opinion.
> 
> Have you considered the new B class EV?  I've drive that much more... very 
> nice car.  It has the benefits of a back seat, storage space, and it goes 
> like hell.  I was really impressed.  I forget the calculations exactly, but I 
> determined my commute would cost a fraction of what it normally would with a 
> gas car.  My commute is 45 miles each way... a charger on each end means lots 
> of flexibility and no range concerns.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 9:58 AM, John Reames via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Fuel mileage with the -ed (electric drive) is non-existent. (And they have a 
>> charging station in the garage where I park...)
>> 
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>> > I would not get a smart. They are very very small and really do not get 
>> > all that good fuel mileage
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
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>> >> On Jul 19, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
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>> >>
>> >> The new smart was just announced... It might be worth while to wait!
>> >>
>> >> Jaime
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Saturday, July 19, 2014, John Reames via Mercedes 
>> >> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> My usual commute is to the train station; one of the 210.025's has BAD
>> >>> rust issues.
>> >>>
>> >>> Gonna go get SMART-ed ;)
>> >>>
>> >>> Any thoughts?
>> >>>
>> >>> -j.
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Re: [MBZ] Branching out in the MB family

2014-07-19 Thread John Reames via Mercedes
Okay I think my phone suffered an error between the touchscreen and the lawn 
chair...

Anyhow, I was going to comment that courtesy of Amtrak and the Maryland Amateur 
Railroad Club (MARC henceforth), I've had the pleasure of a commuter train ride 
that left Baltimore at 0550 and pulled into DC at 0945...

The ticketing agents were no help :P

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> On Jul 19, 2014, at 10:28, Rich Thomas  
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> Nothing about ED is SMART!  There are medications that can help. But if your 
> commute lasts longer than 4 hours, see your dealer.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
>> On 7/19/14 9:02 AM, John Reames via Mercedes wrote:
>> My usual commute is to the train station; one of the 210.025's has BAD rust 
>> issues.
>> 
>> Gonna go get SMART-ed ;)
>> 
>> Any thoughts?
>> 
>> -j.
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Re: [MBZ] Branching out in the MB family

2014-07-19 Thread John Reames via Mercedes


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> On Jul 19, 2014, at 10:28, Rich Thomas  
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> Nothing about ED is SMART!  There are medications that can help. But if your 
> commute lasts longer than 4 hours, see your dealer.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - tile floors

2014-07-19 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I have no idea how rough your floor is, however I've done some pretty rough
floors in the past. I always used a straight edge to identify high and low
spots and troweled on the material. A good straight 2X4 will work nicely to
establish the "new smooth floor height".  A round corner trowel 24 inches
long with a good handle should float the material smooth.

Seems to me you are trying to poor an entire new cap, which isn't what the
material you are using is made for, from my experience.

When you lay the tile, use a notch trowel with deep enough notches [ I
prefer square notch pattern] so that you seat the tile for height as you
lay them [use the plastic "X" spacers for good edge distance also] .
Should end up with a nice level floor that way after grout.

Of course, keep pain meds handy for following day after laying tile.. ;))



On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 12:36:26 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > The instructions I read/watched all used a ½" electric drill to mix the
> > 50 lb. bag of cement like stuff into 5 qts/liters of water.
>
> That's how the guy who put our tile in did it.
>
>
> > I literally burnt up the Harbor Freight ½" drill on the fifth bag,
> > switched to an old fixed speed 3/8th " drill, pulsing it to finish.
>
> Oops. Our guy didn't have to mix up so much at once.
>
>
> > I think we weren't able to keep mixing and pouring fast enough to keep
> > up with the drying of the previous pour.
>
> Why do you need to keep ahead of the previous pour?
>
> Can you not let it cure and then do the next batch? The concrete on which
> you are pouring the SLU, after all, is fully cured ...
>
>
> > I'm considering using our home owner sized cement mixer, but wondered
> > who has BTDT, and been successful?
>
> Hm ...  Do you have a quick way to get it from the mixer to the floor
> where you are using it?
>
>
> > Also, this cement mixer has a 24" long barrel that is 19" at the base
> > and 16" at the throat. How many bags of sakrete should it be able to
> > mix at once? If two 80 lb bags, should I be able to mix three 50 lb
> > bags of "self leveling underlayment" at once???
>
> Now that I cannot tell you.
>
> What does the manufacturer of the mixer say?
>
> What does Sakrete say?
>
> What does the SLU say?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Okiebenz change in service

2014-07-19 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Craig.
All Hail New Mexico!
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> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 12:38:38 -0600
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Okiebenz change in service
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> 
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 16:09:39 + Fred Moir via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > Max,et alia?How now?
> 
> Loud and clear in New Mexico!
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The 10 most corrupt states in the U.S.

2014-07-19 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 14:56:09 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I am totally surprised RI is not on there.  We have a twice convicted ex
> mayor running again to be mayor of Providence. FBI & IRS  just raided
> speaker of the RI house office  & home over corrup loans.

Maybe they are just pikers compared with the real victors on the list!
The list, after all, includes only ten ...


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Re: [MBZ] OT - tile floors

2014-07-19 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 12:36:26 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The instructions I read/watched all used a ½" electric drill to mix the
> 50 lb. bag of cement like stuff into 5 qts/liters of water.

That's how the guy who put our tile in did it.


> I literally burnt up the Harbor Freight ½" drill on the fifth bag,
> switched to an old fixed speed 3/8th " drill, pulsing it to finish.

Oops. Our guy didn't have to mix up so much at once.


> I think we weren't able to keep mixing and pouring fast enough to keep
> up with the drying of the previous pour.

Why do you need to keep ahead of the previous pour?

Can you not let it cure and then do the next batch? The concrete on which
you are pouring the SLU, after all, is fully cured ...


> I'm considering using our home owner sized cement mixer, but wondered
> who has BTDT, and been successful?

Hm ...  Do you have a quick way to get it from the mixer to the floor
where you are using it?


> Also, this cement mixer has a 24" long barrel that is 19" at the base
> and 16" at the throat. How many bags of sakrete should it be able to
> mix at once? If two 80 lb bags, should I be able to mix three 50 lb
> bags of "self leveling underlayment" at once???

Now that I cannot tell you.

What does the manufacturer of the mixer say?

What does Sakrete say?

What does the SLU say?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The 10 most corrupt states in the U.S.

2014-07-19 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I am totally surprised RI is not on there.  We have a twice convicted ex
mayor running again to be mayor of Providence. FBI & IRS  just raided
speaker of the RI house office  & home over corrup loans.
On Jul 19, 2014 10:23 AM, "OK Don via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> I saw that, and almost posted it because Oklahoma is NOT in the this 10
> worst list! However, when you dig into the original report, we are in the
> next group of ten . . .
>
> I also question the methodology - they ranked the States based on
> corruption convictions - wouldn't the MOST corrupt States actually have few
> convictions?
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > We had some discussion recently on the best places to live, by other
> > people's various criteria.
> >
> > I ran across this today:
> >
> > http://fortune.com/2014/06/10/most-corrupt-states-in-america/?xid=ob_rss
> > The 10 most corrupt states in the U.S.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Okiebenz change in service

2014-07-19 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 16:09:39 + Fred Moir via Mercedes
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> Max,et alia?How now?

Loud and clear in New Mexico!


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Re: [MBZ] Branching out in the MB family

2014-07-19 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Oh yeah, I missed this part about the ED...  I've driven one briefly...
 not long enough to form an opinion.

Have you considered the new B class EV?  I've drive that much more... very
nice car.  It has the benefits of a back seat, storage space, and it goes
like hell.  I was really impressed.  I forget the calculations exactly, but
I determined my commute would cost a fraction of what it normally would
with a gas car.  My commute is 45 miles each way... a charger on each end
means lots of flexibility and no range concerns.

Jaime



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> Fuel mileage with the -ed (electric drive) is non-existent. (And they have
> a charging station in the garage where I park...)
>
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> > On Jul 19, 2014, at 9:46, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I would not get a smart. They are very very small and really do not get
> all that good fuel mileage
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jul 19, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> The new smart was just announced... It might be worth while to wait!
> >>
> >> Jaime
> >>
> >>
> >> On Saturday, July 19, 2014, John Reames via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> My usual commute is to the train station; one of the 210.025's has BAD
> >>> rust issues.
> >>>
> >>> Gonna go get SMART-ed ;)
> >>>
> >>> Any thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> -j.
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[MBZ] OT - tile floors

2014-07-19 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
We are trying to prepare the 250 sq. ft. concrete floor of what was once an
auto shop (that repaired a few MB's - MB content) for 18" square ceramic
tiles. The concrete is not all that level or smooth. We poured eight bags
of "self leveling underlayment" on it and improved some areas, made others
worse.

The instructions I read/watched all used a ½" electric drill to mix the 50
lb. bag of cement like stuff into 5 qts/liters of water. I literally burnt
up the Harbor Freight ½" drill on the fifth bag, switched to an old fixed
speed 3/8th " drill, pulsing it to finish. I think we weren't able to keep
mixing and pouring fast enough to keep up with the drying of the previous
pour.

I'm considering using our home owner sized cement mixer, but wondered who
has BTDT, and been successful?

Also, this cement mixer has a 24" long barrel that is 19" at the base and
16" at the throat. How many bags of sakrete should it be able to mix at
once? If two 80 lb bags, should I be able to mix three 50 lb bags of "self
leveling underlayment" at once???
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Re: [MBZ] Okiebenz change in service

2014-07-19 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Max,et alia?How now?

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 10:40:18 -0400
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Okiebenz change in service
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> 
> Fred,
> 
> Your reply seemed to come directly to me, vice via list.
> 
> Are you using "reply" or "reply all"?  What shows up in the "to" line when
> you reply?
> 
> Max Dillon,
> Charleston SC
  
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Re: [MBZ] Branching out in the MB family

2014-07-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You are wicked funny, as they say in Brahxtahn.


On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Nothing about ED is SMART!  There are medications that can help. But if
> your commute lasts longer than 4 hours, see your dealer.
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 7/19/14 9:02 AM, John Reames via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> My usual commute is to the train station; one of the 210.025's has BAD
>> rust issues.
>>
>> Gonna go get SMART-ed ;)
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> -j.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The 10 most corrupt states in the U.S.

2014-07-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My heart is swelling with pride to not see Maryland on the list.


On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Rate of convictions is probably a good predictor of number of corruption
> events.  In a really bad situation, there may be no enforecement, which
> would lower the rate, but I suspect most of these are state vs county or
> Feds vs State convictions, so the logic holds.
>
> Not where I want to live, which is why I have no desire to return to
> Illinois.  Long, very bad reputation for that State.
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Junkyard score

2014-07-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Wow, that was a real moral dilemma.  Happens to me all the time and I
usually guess wrong.

What did all this loot cost you, Meade?


On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:56 AM, WILTON via Mercedes  wrote:

> ATTABOY!
>
> 'Sorry ya missed Tim; 'thought for a second you were gonna say ya got so
> engrossed in the junkyard ya missed the meeting ya went for.  ;<)
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 8:14 AM
> Subject: [MBZ] Junkyard score
>
>
>
>  Yesterday I went to a junkyard in Richmond (was there in business trip)
>> and
>> brought home the following from an '87 300D:
>> -Nearly new Nissens radiator
>> -Engine wiring harness, good condition
>> -set of metal injector lines
>> -pre-glow relay
>> -all relays from behind fuses
>> -left front inner fender cover for oil cooler
>> -various switches from the center console
>>
>> Next, I took from a '93 300TE:
>> -Tandem power steering pump
>> -SLS control valve
>>
>> Great fun! I also found a few bits for my wife's Infiniti.
>>
>> The down side was I missed a meeting with Tim Crone.  Sorry Tim!  Please
>> accept a rain check for later...
>>
>> We just don't have such wealth in the junkyards down here.
>>
>> Max Dillon,
>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Junkyard score

2014-07-19 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

ATTABOY!

'Sorry ya missed Tim; 'thought for a second you were gonna say ya got so 
engrossed in the junkyard ya missed the meeting ya went for.  ;<)


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 8:14 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Junkyard score


Yesterday I went to a junkyard in Richmond (was there in business trip) 
and

brought home the following from an '87 300D:
-Nearly new Nissens radiator
-Engine wiring harness, good condition
-set of metal injector lines
-pre-glow relay
-all relays from behind fuses
-left front inner fender cover for oil cooler
-various switches from the center console

Next, I took from a '93 300TE:
-Tandem power steering pump
-SLS control valve

Great fun! I also found a few bits for my wife's Infiniti.

The down side was I missed a meeting with Tim Crone.  Sorry Tim!  Please
accept a rain check for later...

We just don't have such wealth in the junkyards down here.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The 10 most corrupt states in the U.S.

2014-07-19 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Rate of convictions is probably a good predictor of number of  
corruption events.  In a really bad situation, there may be no  
enforecement, which would lower the rate, but I suspect most of these  
are state vs county or Feds vs State convictions, so the logic holds.


Not where I want to live, which is why I have no desire to return to  
Illinois.  Long, very bad reputation for that State.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Okiebenz change in service

2014-07-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Fred,

Your reply seemed to come directly to me, vice via list.

Are you using "reply" or "reply all"?  What shows up in the "to" line when
you reply?

Max Dillon,
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On Jul 19, 2014 10:09 AM, "Fred Moir"  wrote:
>
> Max.
> I'm not sure.
> I do not get my posts returned as set in preferences, and most people
rightly ignore me, so, who knows?
> Curts posts arrive just fine. Sometimes one sometimes two.
> Cue the scarecrows's song
>
> Fred Moir.
> Lynn MA.
> Diesel preferred.
>
>
> > Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 08:17:32 -0400
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; diese...@pisquared.net
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Okiebenz change in service
> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>
> >
> > The upside is that no list messages go to my spam folder.
> >
> > Fred, are your messages getting through?
> >
> > Max Dillon,
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Tolls in Oklahoma

2014-07-19 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
The speed limit varies from 70 to 75. Many drive much faster, some drive
much slower. You have to stay alert!


On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

>
> Is 80 the speed limit, or just the speed the cops don't bother you at?
>
> I'm not sure I'd want to drive a U-Haul or some sort truck towing a W123
> at 80 mph ...
>
>
> Craig
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Junkyard score

2014-07-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I have to ask - what did all of this cost? I just wondered as I haven't gotten 
stuff from a P&P in ages.

Dan

> On Jul 19, 2014, at 8:14 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yesterday I went to a junkyard in Richmond (was there in business trip) and
> brought home the following from an '87 300D:
> -Nearly new Nissens radiator
> -Engine wiring harness, good condition
> -set of metal injector lines
> -pre-glow relay
> -all relays from behind fuses
> -left front inner fender cover for oil cooler
> -various switches from the center console
> 
> Next, I took from a '93 300TE:
> -Tandem power steering pump
> -SLS control valve
> 
> Great fun! I also found a few bits for my wife's Infiniti.
> 
> The down side was I missed a meeting with Tim Crone.  Sorry Tim!  Please
> accept a rain check for later...
> 
> We just don't have such wealth in the junkyards down here.
> 
> Max Dillon,
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Branching out in the MB family

2014-07-19 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Nothing about ED is SMART!  There are medications that can help. But if 
your commute lasts longer than 4 hours, see your dealer.


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On 7/19/14 9:02 AM, John Reames via Mercedes wrote:

My usual commute is to the train station; one of the 210.025's has BAD rust 
issues.

Gonna go get SMART-ed ;)

Any thoughts?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The 10 most corrupt states in the U.S.

2014-07-19 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Yeah, SC is not in the top 10, maybe after the next round of indictments 
and trials we will be.


--R


On 7/19/14 10:23 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

I saw that, and almost posted it because Oklahoma is NOT in the this 10
worst list! However, when you dig into the original report, we are in the
next group of ten . . .

I also question the methodology - they ranked the States based on
corruption convictions - wouldn't the MOST corrupt States actually have few
convictions?


On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:


We had some discussion recently on the best places to live, by other
people's various criteria.

I ran across this today:

http://fortune.com/2014/06/10/most-corrupt-states-in-america/?xid=ob_rss
The 10 most corrupt states in the U.S.








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Re: [MBZ] OT: The 10 most corrupt states in the U.S.

2014-07-19 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I saw that, and almost posted it because Oklahoma is NOT in the this 10
worst list! However, when you dig into the original report, we are in the
next group of ten . . .

I also question the methodology - they ranked the States based on
corruption convictions - wouldn't the MOST corrupt States actually have few
convictions?


On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> We had some discussion recently on the best places to live, by other
> people's various criteria.
>
> I ran across this today:
>
> http://fortune.com/2014/06/10/most-corrupt-states-in-america/?xid=ob_rss
> The 10 most corrupt states in the U.S.
>
>
>


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[MBZ] Glow plug relay

2014-07-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
What 2 pins on glow plug relay do you jump to activate the relay?

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Re: [MBZ] Branching out in the MB family

2014-07-19 Thread John Reames via Mercedes
Fuel mileage with the -ed (electric drive) is non-existent. (And they have a 
charging station in the garage where I park...)

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> I would not get a smart. They are very very small and really do not get all 
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>> The new smart was just announced... It might be worth while to wait!
>> 
>> Jaime
>> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, July 19, 2014, John Reames via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
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>>> My usual commute is to the train station; one of the 210.025's has BAD
>>> rust issues.
>>> 
>>> Gonna go get SMART-ed ;)
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts?
>>> 
>>> -j.
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Re: [MBZ] Branching out in the MB family

2014-07-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I would not get a smart. They are very very small and really do not get all 
that good fuel mileage

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> The new smart was just announced... It might be worth while to wait!
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> Jaime
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> 
> On Saturday, July 19, 2014, John Reames via Mercedes 
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>> My usual commute is to the train station; one of the 210.025's has BAD
>> rust issues.
>> 
>> Gonna go get SMART-ed ;)
>> 
>> Any thoughts?
>> 
>> -j.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Tolls in Oklahoma

2014-07-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
We have pike pass but it does not make sense for just 1 use

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> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 14:53:33 -0600 Craig via Mercedes
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>> I was looking on Google Maps today for the route from Los Alamos to
>> Elkhart and noticed some of the freeways around Oklahoma have tolls.
>> 
>> How much are those tolls?
>> 
>> Does it make any sense to avoid them if you are in a group driving three
>> vehicles?
> 
> Dwight told me off-list to get an EZ Pass.
> 
> I looked it up and found,
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-ZPass
> 
>E‑ZPass is an electronic toll-collection system used on most
>tolled roads, bridges, and tunnels in the northeastern United
>States, south to North Carolina, and west to Illinois. Currently,
>there are 25 agencies spread across 14 states that make up the
>E‑ZPass Interagency Group (IAG). [1] All member agencies use the
>same technology, allowing travelers to use the same E‑ZPass
>transponder throughout the IAG network. Various independent
>systems that use the same technology have been integrated into the
>E‑ZPass system. These include I‑Pass in Illinois and NC Quick
>Pass in North Carolina. Other interoperable systems retained
>their own branding for some time, but have all since been
>rebranded simply as E-ZPass.
> 
> So it seems, EZ Pass won't work in Oklahoma.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Senior Traffic Stop

2014-07-19 Thread John Reames via Mercedes
Well that's one way to clean my screen!

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> Max Dillon,
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Re: [MBZ] Branching out in the MB family

2014-07-19 Thread John Reames via Mercedes
I suspect an old (240dl) Swedish brick has better aerodynamics (or at least a 
lower Cd...

My usual commute to the train station is about 10-12 miles...

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> On Jul 19, 2014, at 9:21, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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> Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
>> Do not expect to take long trips in a Smart -- my brother's BIL drove one 
>> from Karlsruhe to Berlin a few years ago just to see.  He took the train 
>> home, those tiny tires and very short wheelbase result in constant jouncing. 
>>  If it's miserable on a short trip (by American standards) it's too bouncy 
>> for me to drive to work!
> 
> I always wondered why the hwy mpg stinks for such a small car. I guess they 
> see it as a city car and the gearing is short to help discourage highway 
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Re: [MBZ] Branching out in the MB family

2014-07-19 Thread John Reames via Mercedes
I understand the -ed's can be had on lease for sub-150/month; that includes the 
battery protection that's $80/month on a purchased one.

I wouldn't expect to go more than 60 miles before having an overnight wait...

I expect lead time will be a couple of months at least.

The one thing that WOULD be nice is a 6kW charger instead of a 3kW one.

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> On Jul 19, 2014, at 9:08, Meade Dillon  wrote:
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> Used or new?
> 
> Max Dillon,
> Charleston SC
>> On Jul 19, 2014 9:02 AM, "John Reames via Mercedes"  
>> wrote:
>> My usual commute is to the train station; one of the 210.025's has BAD rust 
>> issues.
>> 
>> Gonna go get SMART-ed ;)
>> 
>> Any thoughts?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Branching out in the MB family

2014-07-19 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
Do not expect to take long trips in a Smart -- my brother's BIL drove 
one from Karlsruhe to Berlin a few years ago just to see.  He took the 
train home, those tiny tires and very short wheelbase result in constant 
jouncing.  If it's miserable on a short trip (by American standards) 
it's too bouncy for me to drive to work!


I always wondered why the hwy mpg stinks for such a small car. I guess they see 
it as a city car and the gearing is short to help discourage highway driving?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Branching out in the MB family

2014-07-19 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Do not expect to take long trips in a Smart -- my brother's BIL drove  
one from Karlsruhe to Berlin a few years ago just to see.  He took the  
train home, those tiny tires and very short wheelbase result in  
constant jouncing.  If it's miserable on a short trip (by American  
standards) it's too bouncy for me to drive to work!


If it will never have to stand in for a "real" car, it's probably  
fine.  You will be disappointed with the milage though, they are NOT  
light.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT iPhone battery cost?

2014-07-19 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

My wife's iPhone took a bath, I'd like to try to revive it with a good
cleaning using isopropyl alcohol.

Battery performance had become miserable before it got wet, so I'm thinking
about getting a replacement battery.

Prices on Amazon seen to good to be true.  $4?  $7?  Some are as much as
$13?  I was expecting to pay at least $20 or more.


Bought an iPhone 4 battery on eBay for $6 with tools. Item 331103502804
Read somewhere that the cheap batteries were Li-Ion and the factory batteries 
were Li-Po. When I took the phone apart it had an original Li-Ion battery, 
seemingly identical to the one I bought. Battery life is fine with the new 
battery, or at least no worse than what she used to get from the OE battery when 
the phone was newer.


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Re: [MBZ] Branching out in the MB family

2014-07-19 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
The new smart was just announced... It might be worth while to wait!

Jaime


On Saturday, July 19, 2014, John Reames via Mercedes 
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> My usual commute is to the train station; one of the 210.025's has BAD
> rust issues.
>
> Gonna go get SMART-ed ;)
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> -j.
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[MBZ] OT Senior Traffic Stop

2014-07-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
A little humor for your Saturday morning...

Max Dillon,
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Re: [MBZ] Branching out in the MB family

2014-07-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Used or new?

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
 On Jul 19, 2014 9:02 AM, "John Reames via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> My usual commute is to the train station; one of the 210.025's has BAD
> rust issues.
>
> Gonna go get SMART-ed ;)
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> -j.
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[MBZ] OT iPhone battery cost?

2014-07-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
My wife's iPhone took a bath, I'd like to try to revive it with a good
cleaning using isopropyl alcohol.

Battery performance had become miserable before it got wet, so I'm thinking
about getting a replacement battery.

Prices on Amazon seen to good to be true.  $4?  $7?  Some are as much as
$13?  I was expecting to pay at least $20 or more.

Max Dillon,
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[MBZ] Branching out in the MB family

2014-07-19 Thread John Reames via Mercedes
My usual commute is to the train station; one of the 210.025's has BAD rust 
issues. 

Gonna go get SMART-ed ;) 

Any thoughts?

-j.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Tolls in Oklahoma

2014-07-19 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Thanks Craig.  Yes I have only used mine in Northeast   & NC. I resisted
for a longtime but then RI put 4.00 tolls each way on Newport-Pell bridge
but only .83 each way for residents with EZ Pass. Also nice for getting
across Maine border in summer. Bypasses backup in toll lanes with separate
no stop lane. I know cameras etc but...
.
 On Jul 19, 2014 12:53 AM, "Craig via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 14:53:33 -0600 Craig via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > I was looking on Google Maps today for the route from Los Alamos to
> > Elkhart and noticed some of the freeways around Oklahoma have tolls.
> >
> > How much are those tolls?
> >
> > Does it make any sense to avoid them if you are in a group driving three
> > vehicles?
>
> Dwight told me off-list to get an EZ Pass.
>
> I looked it up and found,
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-ZPass
>
> E‑ZPass is an electronic toll-collection system used on most
> tolled roads, bridges, and tunnels in the northeastern United
> States, south to North Carolina, and west to Illinois. Currently,
> there are 25 agencies spread across 14 states that make up the
> E‑ZPass Interagency Group (IAG). [1] All member agencies use the
> same technology, allowing travelers to use the same E‑ZPass
> transponder throughout the IAG network. Various independent
> systems that use the same technology have been integrated into the
> E‑ZPass system. These include I‑Pass in Illinois and NC Quick
> Pass in North Carolina. Other interoperable systems retained
> their own branding for some time, but have all since been
> rebranded simply as E-ZPass.
>
> So it seems, EZ Pass won't work in Oklahoma.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Okiebenz change in service

2014-07-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
The upside is that no list messages go to my spam folder.

Fred, are your messages getting through?

Max Dillon,
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[MBZ] Junkyard score

2014-07-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Yesterday I went to a junkyard in Richmond (was there in business trip) and
brought home the following from an '87 300D:
-Nearly new Nissens radiator
-Engine wiring harness, good condition
-set of metal injector lines
-pre-glow relay
-all relays from behind fuses
-left front inner fender cover for oil cooler
-various switches from the center console

Next, I took from a '93 300TE:
-Tandem power steering pump
-SLS control valve

Great fun! I also found a few bits for my wife's Infiniti.

The down side was I missed a meeting with Tim Crone.  Sorry Tim!  Please
accept a rain check for later...

We just don't have such wealth in the junkyards down here.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Tolls in Oklahoma

2014-07-19 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
"Do not drive into smoke..."

Bob R
On Jul 18, 2014 8:13 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
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> It will take a lot longer if you avoid them. They are no more than $4 but
> you can drive 80
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jul 18, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
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> > I was looking on Google Maps today for the route from Los Alamos to
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> >
> > How much are those tolls?
> >
> > Does it make any sense to avoid them if you are in a group driving three
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> >
> > Thanks,
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