Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] - Politics
Close the thread and drop the subject matter, folks. Final warning. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 18, 2014, at 8:49 PM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Similar to: scared old men sending brave young men to die In the good old days the boss would go out with the troops and fight but nowadays those that decide the time has come to fight do not go out and participate. Would the head honchos be so keen to start something if they had to go out and stick their necks out? Anyway on a related note, it's all go over here with all sorts of crazies running amok http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-19/afp-to-take-over-parliament-house-security/5754718 not sure if there is anything to it or just a bit of a beat up to justify sending troops to Iraq? My question is, what do these terrorists hope to achieve by doing these sort of bad things? Do they all expect us to roll over and surrender and convert to Islam? Far as I can see all they are doing is creating a bigger divide between Muslims and non Muslims and that ain't a good thing. I like to think that I am reasonably intelligent and do think that it is a small minority of Muslims who are hardline nut jobs and the vast majority just want to get along in life, however with every senseless terror attack, that belief becomes a little eroded. Plus there are plenty of not so bright people out there that think every Muslim is out to create mayhem. Nazi Germany is a good example of how people can be brainwashed into believing that a particular group of people are bad and need to be gotten rid of. Hendrik who lives in a crazy world full of crazy people and has his bags packed, in case some aliens come along to take me to a better planet On 19/09/14 05:02, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Chairman Mao: What was the context of that clever remark? On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: henifay wrote: Pitting the pawns against one another to keep the King safe. NICE!! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] DAS System - Key Fob?
Someone over on BenzWorld is saying that in 1997 the DAS system required the blade key with the fob to start the car. I was sure the valet keys I have start the car (I'm going to check when I get a chance.) Anyone know if this is the case? Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT only for US military their family
Navy Federal Credit Union is offering a one-year CD paying 5%. Limit is $5k per CD. They are calling it a Celebrate Certificate. If you're not already a member, you may only be eligible for a 3% rate, which is not too shabby either. If your savings account or emergency fund can allow some cash to be tied up in a CD for a year, it's a great deal. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: My website
If you aren't hosting large PDF Manuals and such, have you thought about putting it up as a WordPress blog? Basic service is free with 3 GB of space. I believe you can use your own domain name for as little as $18.00 a year. Hosted space, and personal websites have gotten *super* cheap in the last several years. You could also set it up as a Tumblr.com account, but that is typically far more pic heavy. Just a thought. EdB On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 11:44 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Jim could not do it as he would have had to check his website in order to get the instructions on how to do it (like the rest of us) and his website is down. The site is alive and well in the basement. You just can't see it anywhere outside the house! Jim, what kind of things are you putting on this site? Just words and pictures, right? Not like massive downloadable files or anything, right? Words and pix, yep. To the tune of somewhat under 400MB now, most of that pictures in my wife's section. No, the _site_ wasn't purged, my memory (and notes) of alternate ways to set up the web site elsewhere than where it is right now is what got purged. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Das beste oder nichts. - *Gottlieb Daimler* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: GRILLE badges
The presentation is really nice. The badges are not as high quality as in the past. I need to get one for the S420 Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 18, 2014, at 9:26 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com Date: Sep 18, 2014 4:54 PM Subject: GRILLE badges To: clay redgh...@comcast.net Cc: Yes I have 250k kms ones on each of my two. Paint faded on one I had them send a new one. I am going for 500k badge for my 90 300D. On Sep 18, 2014 4:41 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I just got the high mileage award in the mail for Frosch. Nice big box with a small grille jewel and a folder. Pretty heavy medal, but not the cloisonné of the older examples. No need to be a club member, just own the marque. clay On Sep 16, 2014, at 6:23 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: I AM trying to stifle discussion that is not MB or car related and is just political rants of any persuasion. I joined this list in 2002 for Mercedes content. Rant off. Dwight Giles 90 300D,82 300 CD. (In the old days we always put our cars in the signature) On Sep 16, 2014 6:42 PM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm not trying to stifle discussion but this topic has been gone over many a times. And I don't think there is anything new to throw in the mix. Whether an AR-15 is a semi-automatic rifle or carbine is neither here nor there, I suppose they come in both full length and shortened versions? Sure the pro-gun mob prefer the term carbine and anti-gun crowd prefer assault rifle. Regarding our laws in Oz, I have said it many a times, if it gets that bad that I feel I need a weapon to defend myself against the crazies, I will move somewhere better. And just to remind you all, it's not illegal to own a firearm in Oz but you need to have a good reason to own one and home defence is not a suitable reason. As I have said before, I feel good that there are stringent controls in place, so not just any numpty can buy a weapon to shove in his missus face and make him feel like a big man. Or pull the trigger in a moment of depression. http://www.news.com.au/national/lockhart-shooting- wagga-wagga-community-reeling-after-hunt-family-tragedy/ story-fncynjr2-1227053811861 Hendrik who is go ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: GRILLE badges
Craig, Nothing in the hold queue. Did you send them? Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:15 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 22:02:40 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sorry Hendrick. Back to aliens. I do have photos of both my badged grilles but not sure listmom will allow.. Just attach them to an email and Dan will approve the email when he notices it. He's been pretty good about that. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: My website
have you thought about putting it up as a WordPress blog? Those things leave me cold. I want to continue to do what I have been doing, so that grep driveline *.html can be used to find things of interest. Takes about 1 second to find stuff that way. There are options, but I have to do a bunch more research. Really liked hosting it myself, I then knew were my data had been! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OM603 exhaust log to turbo intake gasket
Dieselvolk, Installing new head on my '87 wagon. What would be a suitable sealant so I can re-use a metal gasket in a high-temperature application? Purchased the MB gasket kit, but it does not include the metal gasket for the joint where the exhaust manifold log (replacement for the soot oxidizer) is bolted to the turbo charger. EPC says this gasket (352 098 02 80) does not apply to my car, but if I use a generic rest of world car (i.e. don't plug my VIN into the EPC), then I can get the gasket part number. Should I go to the trouble of getting the proper gasket, or get some sealant to re-use the old gasket? -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT - non-political B-52 tale - THE PATTON TAPE
Well, I think it's non-political, anyway. (YMMV) THE PATTON TAPE By Wilton Strickland During the entire time that I was flying B-52 bombing missions from Guam and Thailand to Vietnam in '72, the movie Patton was still fresh in people's minds. I was on a mission over Vietnam one day in late summer when suddenly, George C. Scott's voice as General Patton came on the inter-plane radio with a short excerpt from Patton's speech to the troops just before the invasion of Normandy. I don't remember the exact excerpt, but I thought it was appropriate for the moment. Several days later, I mentioned the Patton comment during a pre-mission briefing; another crewman in the briefing claimed to be the culprit and offered me a copy of the tape. I borrowed a friend's recorder and, using his recorder and mine, I was able index the tape so that I could readily select and play short excerpts as desired. The crew electronic warfare officer (EW) carried an official recorder on each flight. This recorder was issued to EW before each mission and returned by him at the end of each mission; it was rigged so that nobody could access or alter the tape, and recorded everything said on the aircraft intercom and received by the aircraft radios. Wanting to keep a record for myself in case anything more interesting happened, I had a technician in the aircraft electronics shop make a short cord for me that allowed me to plug my personal recorder into the aircraft radio system. I carried this recorder on every mission except the last two to Hanoi in December. (A friend on another crew borrowed my special cord the night of Dec. 26th and was shot down over Hanoi.) On the last two missions, I was able to transmit from my recorder, though, by playing it and holding a radio headset microphone against the speaker shielded by my hand and a handkerchief. Occasionally during a mission, I would select a Patton excerpt appropriate for the moment. Sometimes, just before takeoff, for example, I'd be proud to lead you wonderful guys into battle anytime, anywhere. En route to the target, I sometimes transmitted, You know, I actually pity those poor bastards we're going up against, by God, I do. For three months or so, I played several Patton excerpts on each mission. B-52 crewmen began to expect to hear something from Patton each time out. The talk around base was, Who's playing Patton - who's doing that? I never said a word, but several knew who was doing it. I continued transmitting the Patton excerpts at appropriate times, even during the Linebacker II missions to Hanoi. En route on those missions, I would play, for example, Some of you boys I know are wondering whether or not you'll chicken out under fire. Don't worry about it. I can assure you that you will all do your duty. (Several crewmen who heard these transmissions have told me during the last few years that their fear and anxiety were greatly relieved by them.) Returning to U-Tapao, Thailand, after a surprisingly quiet mission to a target, Thai Nguyen Steel Mills and Rail Yards 35 nautical miles north of Hanoi on the night of December 29th, I was confident that it was the last night of the campaign. I had seen photos of the complete destruction in the areas struck by B-52's since the 18th and did not think there was another target left in North Vietnam worthy of a B-52 strike. They were out of missiles and ammo, and we were out of targets. Mine was the next-to-last B-52 of the nearly 100 to visit Hanoi that night. I was confident that we had won the war and that it would soon end as we departed the Hanoi area for the last time. Forty five minutes or so before landing back in Thailand, I transmitted a Patton excerpt that I thought was appropriate for a such a finale: For over a thousand years, the Roman conquerors, returning from the wars, enjoyed the honor of the triumph - a tumultuous parade. In the procession came trumpeters, musicians and strange animals from the conquered territories, together with carts laden with treasure and captured armaments. The conqueror rode in a triumphant chariot, the day's prisoners walking in chains before him. Sometimes, his children, robed in white, stood with him in the chariot or rode the trace horses. A slave stood behind the conqueror, holding a golden crown and whispering in his ear a warning that all glory is fleeting. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - non-political B-52 tale - THE PATTON TAPE
I am sure you included the excerpt that goes something like Your job is not to die for your country, but to make the other poor bastard die for his country! Great movie. Twelve O'clock High goes well with it. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:06 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well, I think it's non-political, anyway. (YMMV) THE PATTON TAPE By Wilton Strickland During the entire time that I was flying B-52 bombing missions from Guam and Thailand to Vietnam in '72, the movie Patton was still fresh in people's minds. I was on a mission over Vietnam one day in late summer when suddenly, George C. Scott's voice as General Patton came on the inter-plane radio with a short excerpt from Patton's speech to the troops just before the invasion of Normandy. I don't remember the exact excerpt, but I thought it was appropriate for the moment. Several days later, I mentioned the Patton comment during a pre-mission briefing; another crewman in the briefing claimed to be the culprit and offered me a copy of the tape. I borrowed a friend's recorder and, using his recorder and mine, I was able index the tape so that I could readily select and play short excerpts as desired. The crew electronic warfare officer (EW) carried an official recorder on each flight. This recorder was issued to EW before each mission and returned by him at the end of each mission; it was rigged so that nobody could access or alter the tape, and recorded everything said on the aircraft intercom and received by the aircraft radios. Wanting to keep a record for myself in case anything more interesting happened, I had a technician in the aircraft electronics shop make a short cord for me that allowed me to plug my personal recorder into the aircraft radio system. I carried this recorder on every mission except the last two to Hanoi in December. (A friend on another crew borrowed my special cord the night of Dec. 26th and was shot down over Hanoi.) On the last two missions, I was able to transmit from my recorder, though, by playing it and holding a radio headset microphone against the speaker shielded by my hand and a handkerchief. Occasionally during a mission, I would select a Patton excerpt appropriate for the moment. Sometimes, just before takeoff, for example, I'd be proud to lead you wonderful guys into battle anytime, anywhere. En route to the target, I sometimes transmitted, You know, I actually pity those poor bastards we're going up against, by God, I do. For three months or so, I played several Patton excerpts on each mission. B-52 crewmen began to expect to hear something from Patton each time out. The talk around base was, Who's playing Patton - who's doing that? I never said a word, but several knew who was doing it. I continued transmitting the Patton excerpts at appropriate times, even during the Linebacker II missions to Hanoi. En route on those missions, I would play, for example, Some of you boys I know are wondering whether or not you'll chicken out under fire. Don't worry about it. I can assure you that you will all do your duty. (Several crewmen who heard these transmissions have told me during the last few years that their fear and anxiety were greatly relieved by them.) Returning to U-Tapao, Thailand, after a surprisingly quiet mission to a target, Thai Nguyen Steel Mills and Rail Yards 35 nautical miles north of Hanoi on the night of December 29th, I was confident that it was the last night of the campaign. I had seen photos of the complete destruction in the areas struck by B-52's since the 18th and did not think there was another target left in North Vietnam worthy of a B-52 strike. They were out of missiles and ammo, and we were out of targets. Mine was the next-to-last B-52 of the nearly 100 to visit Hanoi that night. I was confident that we had won the war and that it would soon end as we departed the Hanoi area for the last time. Forty five minutes or so before landing back in Thailand, I transmitted a Patton excerpt that I thought was appropriate for a such a finale: For over a thousand years, the Roman conquerors, returning from the wars, enjoyed the honor of the triumph - a tumultuous parade. In the procession came trumpeters, musicians and strange animals from the conquered territories, together with carts laden with treasure and captured armaments. The conqueror rode in a triumphant chariot, the day's prisoners walking in chains before him. Sometimes, his children, robed in white, stood with him in the chariot or rode the trace horses. A slave stood behind the conqueror, holding a golden crown and whispering in his ear a warning that all glory is fleeting. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: GRILLE badges
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 08:49:42 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Craig, Nothing in the hold queue. Did you send them? Dan It was Dwight who was saying he had pictures but wasn't sure they would be allowed. So all he needs to do now is to send them to the list. Craig On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:15 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 22:02:40 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sorry Hendrick. Back to aliens. I do have photos of both my badged grilles but not sure listmom will allow.. Just attach them to an email and Dan will approve the email when he notices it. He's been pretty good about that. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 127 kmi '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 267 kmi (need to fix leaking oil pressure gauge) '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the BRV, Big Red Van) Past: '94 E420Oskar 127 kmi '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: GRILLE badges
Thanks. Got confused. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 08:49:42 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Craig, Nothing in the hold queue. Did you send them? Dan It was Dwight who was saying he had pictures but wasn't sure they would be allowed. So all he needs to do now is to send them to the list. Craig On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:15 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 22:02:40 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sorry Hendrick. Back to aliens. I do have photos of both my badged grilles but not sure listmom will allow.. Just attach them to an email and Dan will approve the email when he notices it. He's been pretty good about that. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 127 kmi '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 267 kmi (need to fix leaking oil pressure gauge) '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the BRV, Big Red Van) Past: '94 E420Oskar 127 kmi '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT - non-political B-52 tale - THE PATTON TAPE
Yeah, that one, too, occasionally. Wilton - Original Message - From: Meade Dillon To: WILTON ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - non-political B-52 tale - THE PATTON TAPE I am sure you included the excerpt that goes something like Your job is not to die for your country, but to make the other poor bastard die for his country! Great movie. Twelve O'clock High goes well with it. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:06 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well, I think it's non-political, anyway. (YMMV) THE PATTON TAPE By Wilton Strickland During the entire time that I was flying B-52 bombing missions from Guam and Thailand to Vietnam in '72, the movie Patton was still fresh in people's minds. I was on a mission over Vietnam one day in late summer when suddenly, George C. Scott's voice as General Patton came on the inter-plane radio with a short excerpt from Patton's speech to the troops just before the invasion of Normandy. I don't remember the exact excerpt, but I thought it was appropriate for the moment. Several days later, I mentioned the Patton comment during a pre-mission briefing; another crewman in the briefing claimed to be the culprit and offered me a copy of the tape. I borrowed a friend's recorder and, using his recorder and mine, I was able index the tape so that I could readily select and play short excerpts as desired. The crew electronic warfare officer (EW) carried an official recorder on each flight. This recorder was issued to EW before each mission and returned by him at the end of each mission; it was rigged so that nobody could access or alter the tape, and recorded everything said on the aircraft intercom and received by the aircraft radios. Wanting to keep a record for myself in case anything more interesting happened, I had a technician in the aircraft electronics shop make a short cord for me that allowed me to plug my personal recorder into the aircraft radio system. I carried this recorder on every mission except the last two to Hanoi in December. (A friend on another crew borrowed my special cord the night of Dec. 26th and was shot down over Hanoi.) On the last two missions, I was able to transmit from my recorder, though, by playing it and holding a radio headset microphone against the speaker shielded by my hand and a handkerchief. Occasionally during a mission, I would select a Patton excerpt appropriate for the moment. Sometimes, just before takeoff, for example, I'd be proud to lead you wonderful guys into battle anytime, anywhere. En route to the target, I sometimes transmitted, You know, I actually pity those poor bastards we're going up against, by God, I do. For three months or so, I played several Patton excerpts on each mission. B-52 crewmen began to expect to hear something from Patton each time out. The talk around base was, Who's playing Patton - who's doing that? I never said a word, but several knew who was doing it. I continued transmitting the Patton excerpts at appropriate times, even during the Linebacker II missions to Hanoi. En route on those missions, I would play, for example, Some of you boys I know are wondering whether or not you'll chicken out under fire. Don't worry about it. I can assure you that you will all do your duty. (Several crewmen who heard these transmissions have told me during the last few years that their fear and anxiety were greatly relieved by them.) Returning to U-Tapao, Thailand, after a surprisingly quiet mission to a target, Thai Nguyen Steel Mills and Rail Yards 35 nautical miles north of Hanoi on the night of December 29th, I was confident that it was the last night of the campaign. I had seen photos of the complete destruction in the areas struck by B-52's since the 18th and did not think there was another target left in North Vietnam worthy of a B-52 strike. They were out of missiles and ammo, and we were out of targets. Mine was the next-to-last B-52 of the nearly 100 to visit Hanoi that night. I was confident that we had won the war and that it would soon end as we departed the Hanoi area for the last time. Forty five minutes or so before landing back in Thailand, I transmitted a Patton excerpt that I thought was appropriate for a such a finale: For over a thousand years, the Roman conquerors, returning from the wars, enjoyed the honor of the triumph - a tumultuous parade. In the procession came trumpeters, musicians and strange animals from the conquered territories, together with carts laden with treasure and captured armaments. The conqueror rode in a triumphant chariot, the day's prisoners walking in chains before him. Sometimes, his children, robed in white, stood with him in the chariot or rode the trace horses. A slave stood behind the conqueror, holding a golden crown
Re: [MBZ] OT - non-political B-52 tale - THE PATTON TAPE
George Patton was considered the Almighty in my house. I'm surprised my Dad didn't have an altar for him. We saw the movie the day it opened, and several times after that. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:47 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah, that one, too, occasionally. Wilton - Original Message - From: Meade Dillon To: WILTON ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - non-political B-52 tale - THE PATTON TAPE I am sure you included the excerpt that goes something like Your job is not to die for your country, but to make the other poor bastard die for his country! Great movie. Twelve O'clock High goes well with it. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:06 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well, I think it's non-political, anyway. (YMMV) THE PATTON TAPE By Wilton Strickland During the entire time that I was flying B-52 bombing missions from Guam and Thailand to Vietnam in '72, the movie Patton was still fresh in people's minds. I was on a mission over Vietnam one day in late summer when suddenly, George C. Scott's voice as General Patton came on the inter-plane radio with a short excerpt from Patton's speech to the troops just before the invasion of Normandy. I don't remember the exact excerpt, but I thought it was appropriate for the moment. Several days later, I mentioned the Patton comment during a pre-mission briefing; another crewman in the briefing claimed to be the culprit and offered me a copy of the tape. I borrowed a friend's recorder and, using his recorder and mine, I was able index the tape so that I could readily select and play short excerpts as desired. The crew electronic warfare officer (EW) carried an official recorder on each flight. This recorder was issued to EW before each mission and returned by him at the end of each mission; it was rigged so that nobody could access or alter the tape, and recorded everything said on the aircraft intercom and received by the aircraft radios. Wanting to keep a record for myself in case anything more interesting happened, I had a technician in the aircraft electronics shop make a short cord for me that allowed me to plug my personal recorder into the aircraft radio system. I carried this recorder on every mission except the last two to Hanoi in December. (A friend on another crew borrowed my special cord the night of Dec. 26th and was shot down over Hanoi.) On the last two missions, I was able to transmit from my recorder, though, by playing it and holding a radio headset microphone against the speaker shielded by my hand and a handkerchief. Occasionally during a mission, I would select a Patton excerpt appropriate for the moment. Sometimes, just before takeoff, for example, I'd be proud to lead you wonderful guys into battle anytime, anywhere. En route to the target, I sometimes transmitted, You know, I actually pity those poor bastards we're going up against, by God, I do. For three months or so, I played several Patton excerpts on each mission. B-52 crewmen began to expect to hear something from Patton each time out. The talk around base was, Who's playing Patton - who's doing that? I never said a word, but several knew who was doing it. I continued transmitting the Patton excerpts at appropriate times, even during the Linebacker II missions to Hanoi. En route on those missions, I would play, for example, Some of you boys I know are wondering whether or not you'll chicken out under fire. Don't worry about it. I can assure you that you will all do your duty. (Several crewmen who heard these transmissions have told me during the last few years that their fear and anxiety were greatly relieved by them.) Returning to U-Tapao, Thailand, after a surprisingly quiet mission to a target, Thai Nguyen Steel Mills and Rail Yards 35 nautical miles north of Hanoi on the night of December 29th, I was confident that it was the last night of the campaign. I had seen photos of the complete destruction in the areas struck by B-52's since the 18th and did not think there was another target left in North Vietnam worthy of a B-52 strike. They were out of missiles and ammo, and we were out of targets. Mine was the next-to-last B-52 of the nearly 100 to visit Hanoi that night. I was confident that we had won the war and that it would soon end as we departed the Hanoi area for the last time. Forty five minutes or so before landing back in Thailand, I transmitted a Patton excerpt that I thought was appropriate for a such a finale: For over a thousand years, the Roman conquerors, returning from the wars, enjoyed the honor of the triumph - a tumultuous parade. In the procession came trumpeters, musicians and strange animals from the
Re: [MBZ] OT: My website
Ah! so, coming again soon to a website near you RB On 18/09/2014 10:44 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: Jim could not do it as he would have had to check his website in order to get the instructions on how to do it (like the rest of us) and his website is down. The site is alive and well in the basement. You just can't see it anywhere outside the house! Jim, what kind of things are you putting on this site? Just words and pictures, right? Not like massive downloadable files or anything, right? Words and pix, yep. To the tune of somewhat under 400MB now, most of that pictures in my wife's section. No, the _site_ wasn't purged, my memory (and notes) of alternate ways to set up the web site elsewhere than where it is right now is what got purged. -- Jim ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OM603 exhaust log to turbo intake gasket
I've used the sealant that comes with exhaust pipe/muffler patch/repair kits on similar applications. None were turbo, but I doubt the turbo temps would be enough higher to make a difference. I've also found that used gaskets, both metal and non-metal, work better if they are carefully wire brushed and then used with a sealant. Also, there seems to be quite a few more sealants at FLAPS than in years gone by. Some may be specific for exhaust level temps. Gerry .. Meade Dillon wrote: Dieselvolk, Installing new head on my '87 wagon. What would be a suitable sealant so I can re-use a metal gasket in a high-temperature application? Purchased the MB gasket kit, but it does not include the metal gasket for the joint where the exhaust manifold log (replacement for the soot oxidizer) is bolted to the turbo charger. EPC says this gasket (352 098 02 80) does not apply to my car, but if I use a generic rest of world car (i.e. don't plug my VIN into the EPC), then I can get the gasket part number. Should I go to the trouble of getting the proper gasket, or get some sealant to re-use the old gasket? -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4025/8240 - Release Date: 09/19/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OM603 exhaust log to turbo intake gasket
If you are going to all the trouble to replace the head, just get the proper new gasket and don't worry about it On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dieselvolk, Installing new head on my '87 wagon. snip Should I go to the trouble of getting the proper gasket, or get some sealant to re-use the old gasket? -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - non-political B-52 tale - THE PATTON TAPE
Inspiring! I do have a aux/music input for the intercom in the 182 - but I'd have to play excerpts from Those Magnificent Men and their Flying Machines to be appropriate . . . On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 9:06 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well, I think it's non-political, anyway. (YMMV) THE PATTON TAPE By Wilton Strickland During the entire time that I was flying B-52 bombing missions from Guam and Thailand to Vietnam in '72, the movie Patton was still fresh in people's minds. I was on a mission over Vietnam one day in late summer when suddenly, George C. Scott's voice as General Patton came on the inter-plane radio with a short excerpt from Patton's speech to the troops just before the invasion of Normandy. I don't remember the exact excerpt, but I thought it was appropriate for the moment. Several days later, I mentioned the Patton comment during a pre-mission briefing; another crewman in the briefing claimed to be the culprit and offered me a copy of the tape. I borrowed a friend's recorder and, using his recorder and mine, I was able index the tape so that I could readily select and play short excerpts as desired. The crew electronic warfare officer (EW) carried an official recorder on each flight. This recorder was issued to EW before each mission and returned by him at the end of each mission; it was rigged so that nobody could access or alter the tape, and recorded everything said on the aircraft intercom and received by the aircraft radios. Wanting to keep a record for myself in case anything more interesting happened, I had a technician in the aircraft electronics shop make a short cord for me that allowed me to plug my personal recorder into the aircraft radio system. I carried this recorder on every mission except the last two to Hanoi in December. (A friend on another crew borrowed my special cord the night of Dec. 26th and was shot down over Hanoi.) On the last two missions, I was able to transmit from my recorder, though, by playing it and holding a radio headset microphone against the speaker shielded by my hand and a handkerchief. Occasionally during a mission, I would select a Patton excerpt appropriate for the moment. Sometimes, just before takeoff, for example, I'd be proud to lead you wonderful guys into battle anytime, anywhere. En route to the target, I sometimes transmitted, You know, I actually pity those poor bastards we're going up against, by God, I do. For three months or so, I played several Patton excerpts on each mission. B-52 crewmen began to expect to hear something from Patton each time out. The talk around base was, Who's playing Patton - who's doing that? I never said a word, but several knew who was doing it. I continued transmitting the Patton excerpts at appropriate times, even during the Linebacker II missions to Hanoi. En route on those missions, I would play, for example, Some of you boys I know are wondering whether or not you'll chicken out under fire. Don't worry about it. I can assure you that you will all do your duty. (Several crewmen who heard these transmissions have told me during the last few years that their fear and anxiety were greatly relieved by them.) Returning to U-Tapao, Thailand, after a surprisingly quiet mission to a target, Thai Nguyen Steel Mills and Rail Yards 35 nautical miles north of Hanoi on the night of December 29th, I was confident that it was the last night of the campaign. I had seen photos of the complete destruction in the areas struck by B-52's since the 18th and did not think there was another target left in North Vietnam worthy of a B-52 strike. They were out of missiles and ammo, and we were out of targets. Mine was the next-to-last B-52 of the nearly 100 to visit Hanoi that night. I was confident that we had won the war and that it would soon end as we departed the Hanoi area for the last time. Forty five minutes or so before landing back in Thailand, I transmitted a Patton excerpt that I thought was appropriate for a such a finale: For over a thousand years, the Roman conquerors, returning from the wars, enjoyed the honor of the triumph - a tumultuous parade. In the procession came trumpeters, musicians and strange animals from the conquered territories, together with carts laden with treasure and captured armaments. The conqueror rode in a triumphant chariot, the day's prisoners walking in chains before him. Sometimes, his children, robed in white, stood with him in the chariot or rode the trace horses. A slave stood behind the conqueror, holding a golden crown and whispering in his ear a warning that all glory is fleeting. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: GRILLE badges
I think ALL the grille badges must be shipped at the same time, because I received my 250K km badge in the mail yesterday too! Unfortunately, the car has 294K MILES, so I feel cheated... On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Thanks. Got confused. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 08:49:42 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Craig, Nothing in the hold queue. Did you send them? Dan It was Dwight who was saying he had pictures but wasn't sure they would be allowed. So all he needs to do now is to send them to the list. Craig On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:15 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 22:02:40 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sorry Hendrick. Back to aliens. I do have photos of both my badged grilles but not sure listmom will allow.. Just attach them to an email and Dan will approve the email when he notices it. He's been pretty good about that. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 127 kmi '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 267 kmi (need to fix leaking oil pressure gauge) '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the BRV, Big Red Van) Past: '94 E420Oskar 127 kmi '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: GRILLE badges
Will send them later. On Sep 19, 2014 10:35 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 08:49:42 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Craig, Nothing in the hold queue. Did you send them? Dan It was Dwight who was saying he had pictures but wasn't sure they would be allowed. So all he needs to do now is to send them to the list. Craig On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:15 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 22:02:40 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sorry Hendrick. Back to aliens. I do have photos of both my badged grilles but not sure listmom will allow.. Just attach them to an email and Dan will approve the email when he notices it. He's been pretty good about that. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 127 kmi '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 267 kmi (need to fix leaking oil pressure gauge) '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the BRV, Big Red Van) Past: '94 E420Oskar 127 kmi '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT only for US military their family
A heck pf a lot better than most bank CDs! The ones I saw recently were barely breaking 1%! LarryT On 9/19/2014 6:16 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Navy Federal Credit Union is offering a one-year CD paying 5%. Limit is $5k per CD. They are calling it a Celebrate Certificate. If you're not already a member, you may only be eligible for a 3% rate, which is not too shabby either. If your savings account or emergency fund can allow some cash to be tied up in a CD for a year, it's a great deal. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT only for US military their family
Which must mean that they are tax-payer subsidized, since very little is earning any interest these days On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 5:47 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A heck pf a lot better than most bank CDs! The ones I saw recently were barely breaking 1%! LarryT On 9/19/2014 6:16 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Navy Federal Credit Union is offering a one-year CD paying 5%. Limit is $5k per CD. They are calling it a Celebrate Certificate. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Value of 04 E320 Wagon?
Stopped and looked at a champagne e320 Station Wagon with 134K Miles and absolutely flawless paint. Not even any chips. My wife is smitten and can't stop talking about it which would be great if it were a diesel ;-) Anyway, the small used car shop is asking $13,500 with his financing and $11,800 cash. I'm a little hesitant about a gas car but it started instantly and idled smoothly and quietly. May have a test ride next week The interior was also flawless and it had all the typical options including the 3rd seat. What kind of price is normal for this car? I know there Kelly BB and other sources but I trust your opinions more. What say you all? Thx LarryT 91 300D 78 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Value of 04 E320 Wagon?
In short less than he is asking. My brother was in the car business for 30 years. Always bargain kick the tires. On Sep 19, 2014 6:55 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Stopped and looked at a champagne e320 Station Wagon with 134K Miles and absolutely flawless paint. Not even any chips. My wife is smitten and can't stop talking about it which would be great if it were a diesel ;-) Anyway, the small used car shop is asking $13,500 with his financing and $11,800 cash. I'm a little hesitant about a gas car but it started instantly and idled smoothly and quietly. May have a test ride next week The interior was also flawless and it had all the typical options including the 3rd seat. What kind of price is normal for this car? I know there Kelly BB and other sources but I trust your opinions more. What say you all? Thx LarryT 91 300D 78 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Value of 04 E320 Wagon?
Does it have the maintenance records? On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 5:54 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Stopped and looked at a champagne e320 Station Wagon with 134K Miles and absolutely flawless paint. Not even any chips. My wife is smitten and can't stop talking about it which would be great if it were a diesel ;-) Anyway, the small used car shop is asking $13,500 with his financing and $11,800 cash. Thx LarryT 91 300D 78 240D -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Value of 04 E320 Wagon?
I didn't get to ask that - we had a appt to get to. Also, it has been on that same lot for at least a month, maybe 2 - so something is wrong or he's asking too much and won't bargain. I hope to test drive it = perhaps the tranny or brakes have a problem to be sitting for so long IMO. Yes, Dwight, I plan to dicker. ;-) Thanks again Guys LarryT On 9/19/2014 7:15 PM, OK Don wrote: Does it have the maintenance records? On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 5:54 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Stopped and looked at a champagne e320 Station Wagon with 134K Miles and absolutely flawless paint. Not even any chips. My wife is smitten and can't stop talking about it which would be great if it were a diesel ;-) Anyway, the small used car shop is asking $13,500 with his financing and $11,800 cash. Thx LarryT 91 300D 78 240D -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, /The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers/ 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: GRILLE badges
Well Andrew at that mileage you will soon be eligible for a 500k km badge. On Sep 19, 2014 2:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I think ALL the grille badges must be shipped at the same time, because I received my 250K km badge in the mail yesterday too! Unfortunately, the car has 294K MILES, so I feel cheated... On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Thanks. Got confused. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 08:49:42 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Craig, Nothing in the hold queue. Did you send them? Dan It was Dwight who was saying he had pictures but wasn't sure they would be allowed. So all he needs to do now is to send them to the list. Craig On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:15 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 22:02:40 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sorry Hendrick. Back to aliens. I do have photos of both my badged grilles but not sure listmom will allow.. Just attach them to an email and Dan will approve the email when he notices it. He's been pretty good about that. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 127 kmi '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 267 kmi (need to fix leaking oil pressure gauge) '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the BRV, Big Red Van) Past: '94 E420Oskar 127 kmi '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OM603 exhaust log to turbo intake gasket
I used Hylomar on the last boat diesel head I replaced. Seemed to work OK. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Meade Dillon via Mercedes Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 9:53 AM To: Mercedes Subject: [MBZ] OM603 exhaust log to turbo intake gasket Dieselvolk, Installing new head on my '87 wagon. What would be a suitable sealant so I can re-use a metal gasket in a high- temperature application? Purchased the MB gasket kit, but it does not include the metal gasket for the joint where the exhaust manifold log (replacement for the soot oxidizer) is bolted to the turbo charger. EPC says this gasket (352 098 02 80) does not apply to my car, but if I use a generic rest of world car (i.e. don't plug my VIN into the EPC), then I can get the gasket part number. Should I go to the trouble of getting the proper gasket, or get some sealant to re-use the old gasket? -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
To finish up my Cub Cadet wiring adventure, it turns out that when the previous owner ran a line to the batt terminal of the regulator all he actually had to do was to move the grey wire from the hot side of the starter to one side of the ammeter. I actually spliced the grey wire to a little of the previous owner's very long wire since the grey wire had quite a large ring terminal on it. Viola it works, that easy. One downside is that it doesn't measure when cranking since that comes off the switched side of the starter switch but everything else is measured including the headlights. With the ammeter sorted I took a look at the bracket which at one point must have been chromed but is now just rust. I let it soak for a few hours in a bath of evapo-rust, then cleaned it, dried it and hit it with some primer and yellow paint. I let it dry overnight and then sprayed the backside. When that was mostly dry I baked it in my toaster oven but had the heat too high and bubbled the paint. That subsided into an interesting crackle look which goes with the mostly rotten paint on the rest of the tractor. When I turn on the headlights the charge rate dips for a second before it goes back to normal. I was pleased to see that the starter/generator charges even at very low engine speed. My other Cub Cadet seems to want more engine speed before it charges, I guess I should order a starter/generator rebuild kit for that one as well. After all that fun I took a few minutes to add slime to the left front tire which was low and put some grease in all the zerks. Most importantly I was able to start the tractor cold without starting fluid for the first time in about a year. I was so happy with it I went out and bought a padded seat cover. The machine had one when I first bought it but it got torn off last spring so I'd spent a year sitting with a dirty old towel on the metal seat. I'm ready to plow snow in luxury. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] [ADMIN] - Oh Boy
Dan wrote: Close the thread and drop the subject matter, folks. Final warning. What? Who are you talkin' to? Ain't no adults here. ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 9:16 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale To finish up my Cub Cadet wiring adventure, it turns out that when the previous owner ran a line to the batt terminal of the regulator all he actually had to do was to move the grey wire from the hot side of the starter to one side of the ammeter. I actually spliced the grey wire to a little of the previous owner's very long wire since the grey wire had quite a large ring terminal on it. Viola it works, that easy. One downside is that it doesn't measure when cranking since that comes off the switched side of the starter switch but everything else is measured including the headlights. With the ammeter sorted I took a look at the bracket which at one point must have been chromed but is now just rust. I let it soak for a few hours in a bath of evapo-rust, then cleaned it, dried it and hit it with some primer and yellow paint. I let it dry overnight and then sprayed the backside. When that was mostly dry I baked it in my toaster oven but had the heat too high and bubbled the paint. That subsided into an interesting crackle look which goes with the mostly rotten paint on the rest of the tractor. When I turn on the headlights the charge rate dips for a second before it goes back to normal. I was pleased to see that the starter/generator charges even at very low engine speed. My other Cub Cadet seems to want more engine speed before it charges, I guess I should order a starter/generator rebuild kit for that one as well. After all that fun I took a few minutes to add slime to the left front tire which was low and put some grease in all the zerks. Most importantly I was able to start the tractor cold without starting fluid for the first time in about a year. I was so happy with it I went out and bought a padded seat cover. The machine had one when I first bought it but it got torn off last spring so I'd spent a year sitting with a dirty old towel on the metal seat. I'm ready to plow snow in luxury. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 18:16:35 -0700 Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm ready to plow snow in luxury. Such a deal! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.