Re: [MBZ] Tire conundrum

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I noticed today that we will have to replace the tires on our '95 E320
soon. The questions are, then, what sizes of what types to get.

I have two sets of rims,

124 401 18 02
6-1/2 J x 15 H2 ET 44

and,

210 401 06 02
7-1/2 J x 16 H2 ET 41.

So do I put Nokian WRG2 tires (all-season tires with the mountain and
snowflake symbol and excellent winter performance) on the 16" rims like I
now have.

Or do I put a set of them on the 15" rims?

Or do I get some real winter tires and some decent summer tires? And
which rims to put them on?

So many decisions, particularly not knowing when we will sell our
home and move to Indiana ...

Craig


I think I'd opt for rubber band tars on the 16s and put Blizzaks on 
the 15s.  The higher profile and more cushion would be beneficial for 
winter driving.   (of course in this scenario money is unlimited.


For one set on one set of rims, I'd use the 15s, but I am not a fan 
of rubber band tars, unless you only drive on a race track.


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Re: [MBZ] Dang I Wish This Guy Was In Florida

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

If you've had one, you will likely love them.  Great cars for the time.



On Sun, 28 Dec 2014 21:10:24 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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 http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/4822808556.html


He likes Finnies, doesn't he?

Craig


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Re: [MBZ] Ick! Mice in car!

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Yes.  Yes, they are.

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/2093680

-MMM-

On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Well, Big Red Van, actually.
>
> I moved it off our driveway last night after it providing an anchor for
> lifting our utility trailer. I found that the heat lever wouldn't go all
> the way to heat and after driving awhile got the ugly smell of mice from
> the heater.
>
> Ugh! Those things are really destructive!
>
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[MBZ] Tire conundrum

[Craig via Mercedes]

I noticed today that we will have to replace the tires on our '95 E320
soon. The questions are, then, what sizes of what types to get.

I have two sets of rims,

124 401 18 02
6-1/2 J x 15 H2 ET 44

and,

210 401 06 02
7-1/2 J x 16 H2 ET 41.

So do I put Nokian WRG2 tires (all-season tires with the mountain and
snowflake symbol and excellent winter performance) on the 16" rims like I
now have.

Or do I put a set of them on the 15" rims?

Or do I get some real winter tires and some decent summer tires? And
which rims to put them on?

So many decisions, particularly not knowing when we will sell our
home and move to Indiana ...


Craig


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[MBZ] Ick! Mice in car!

[Craig via Mercedes]

Well, Big Red Van, actually.

I moved it off our driveway last night after it providing an anchor for
lifting our utility trailer. I found that the heat lever wouldn't go all
the way to heat and after driving awhile got the ugly smell of mice from
the heater.

Ugh! Those things are really destructive!



Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Dang I Wish This Guy Was In Florida

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Shows his good taste.

Dan


> On Dec 28, 2014, at 10:30 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
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> On Sun, 28 Dec 2014 21:10:24 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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>> http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/4822808556.html
> 
> He likes Finnies, doesn't he?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Dang I Wish This Guy Was In Florida

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On Sun, 28 Dec 2014 21:10:24 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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> http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/4822808556.html

He likes Finnies, doesn't he?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Dang I Wish This Guy Was In Florida

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Fly out & rent a uhaul truck ?  Nice collection.
On Dec 28, 2014 9:10 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Coffee Bodum Vacuum

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Greg wrote:
> ...I have had French press coffee many times; but it did not strike me as 
> being
> as flavorful as coffee from the vacuum device.

Yes, I agree.
Yama is the one I have been using for 10 years and I agree that it is
a good cuppa.  Why? - I dunno.  I think it is full immersion rather
than pour over.  Yes, the french press is also full immersion but it
is not sucked like the vacuum maker.  I just like the chemistry set
type of process making coffee.  Fiddly - for sure.  I have blown up
plenty of bottom pots using *too* fine grind, so I try to err on the
side of coarse to keep the wallet in good order.  Enjoy!!
mao

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[MBZ] Dang I Wish This Guy Was In Florida

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/4822808556.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Solar powered concrete 50-footer

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

SC finally passed a law recently to allow 3rd parties to install solar 
power and bill for it monthly, so amortizing the install with monthly 
payments, and I guess they will maintain it.  Consumer relationship to 
the electric company is the same but they have to buy excess power.  
Here in SC the electric company is sorta quasi-public, so the 
politicians are pretty much in their pockets, and the electric co in 
theirs.  They are also trying to fund 2 new nuke plants which requires a 
large up-front investment, so solar power runs kinda counter to that.


Politics and economics and technology do not always coexist well.

--R


On 12/28/14 5:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Interesting reference to Florida and solar power.

There’s little effort on the part of utilities in Florida to get involved with 
solar power at the consumer level.  For that matter, I believe some have even 
legislated against it.  I understand why, but in a place like this where we get 
sunny days nearly year round wouldn’t it make sense to promote solar energy?

I would jump at the chance to do solar, but there’s a huge risk in that if 
you’re not in it for the long haul you’ll lose. If I did a solar installation 
here and sold the house five years down the road I would either lose money or 
have to increase the sale price to cover the long term commitments solar 
requires.  There are some companies who are leasing installations, but there’s 
concerns over how to handle those leases when the property changes hands.

I have a solar powered attic fan…..

Dan




On Dec 28, 2014, at 3:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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This is mind blowing.

http://ecogeek.org/2014/12/solar-powered-concrete-hull-boat/
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Solar powered concrete 50-footer

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I went with the largest one I thought would work for my attic - the house is 
single story, roughly 2400 sf.  I believe it was around $400, and I installed 
it.  Installation was pretty simple with a sawzall and a few hand tools.

As far as savings, it’s tough for me to quantify the fan’s contribution as I 
did it in concert with a number of other changes, such as having all my 
ductwork sealed (it’s in the attic space) and sealing nearly every possible 
opening in the house.  LED lighting was installed in all common areas as well.

I did a blower door test after the changes to the building envelope and had a 
2.6 ACH, which is considered extremely tight.

In general, the upfits I did have lowered our electric (AC) bills in the 
hottest months about $30-$40 a month.  That’s for a year’s worth of data with 
degree days being nearly equal to the year prior without the upfits.  I would 
guesstimate the annual savings at around $200-$300.

There is quite a conflict in the HVAC business over the use of attic 
ventilation fans - mainly due to the misapplication of them to homes that are 
not properly sealed.  What often happens is an attic fan is installed and it 
lowers the air pressure inside the attic.  This in itself isn’t a bad thing 
until you consider what the largest exposed heated or cooled surface is in the 
attic - the ceiling.  Any, and I mean ANY leaks in the building envelope will 
allow tempered air from the inside of the house to be pulled out of the 
building and into the attic space. In other words, installing an attic fan can, 
and often does, increase energy usage because the house system has to make up 
the heated or cooled air being pulled out of it.

The other issue is proper attic ventilation - if the attic isn’t properly 
vented to begin with, an attic fan won’t help and is a waste of money.

I was lucky in that the builder over designed the ventilation for my attic by 
about a factor of 30%-40%.  The builder for our previous home down here did 
not, and we’re seeing people in our old neighborhood having to replace roofs 
after as few as 10 years.  The temperatures were so high in some of these roof 
spaces that they were literally baking the decking and causing it to fail, 
along with the shingles.

If you’re thinking about an attic fan, I would either employ the services of a 
trusted HVAC contractor or do your due diligence and make sure the house is 
sealed up as tight as possible.  Our local electrical utility provided the duct 
sealing and blower door tests at no or reduced cost, along with an energy audit.

Along these same lines, we’re considering putting in a whole house 
dehumidifier.  That’s mainly because our AC unit is marginal for the 
application, but it’s nearly new, so we don’t want to replace it (it was 
installed by the previous owner just before we purchased the house.)  It 
struggles to cool the house on the hottest days, which also means it isn’t 
doing a good job of dehumidification.  A whole house dehumidifier would lessen 
the load on the AC unit by allowing us to run it at a higher setpoint and is a 
lot less expensive (~$1200) than replacing the AC unit.

A good friend is an industrial AC guy and has been a great resource for 
information.  He was the one who told me the first thing I should do is seal 
the house up….

Dan





> On Dec 28, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> How well does the solar attic fan work?  About what dos it cost?
> 
> On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> Interesting reference to Florida and solar power.
> 
> There’s little effort on the part of utilities in Florida to get involved 
> with solar power at the consumer level.  For that matter, I believe some have 
> even legislated against it.  I understand why, but in a place like this where 
> we get sunny days nearly year round wouldn’t it make sense to promote solar 
> energy?
> 
> I would jump at the chance to do solar, but there’s a huge risk in that if 
> you’re not in it for the long haul you’ll lose. If I did a solar installation 
> here and sold the house five years down the road I would either lose money or 
> have to increase the sale price to cover the long term commitments solar 
> requires.  There are some companies who are leasing installations, but 
> there’s concerns over how to handle those leases when the property changes 
> hands.
> 
> I have a solar powered attic fan…..
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> > On Dec 28, 2014, at 3:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >
> > This is mind blowing.
> >
> > http://ecogeek.org/2014/12/solar-powered-concrete-hull-boat/ 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Coffee Bodum Vacuum

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Without a side by side comparison this is not a scientific result, but I
have had French press coffee many times; but it did not strike me as being
as flavorful as coffee from the vacuum device.  Perhaps the water flowing
under pressure through the grounds does something?  As in a good espresso
maker?

Greg

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Two words:  Coffee press.  Also known as a French press.

Dan


> On Dec 28, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
 wrote:
> 
> My son (owner of a 3-pedal 240D) has been making us coffee with the 
> above-named device.  Even to my un-nuanced palate the flavor of said 
> coffee is incredibly better than that brewed with a Mellita even using 
> unbleached filters.  True, it is fiddly to work with and requires a 
> coarser grind; but it certainly delivers on flavor and aroma!
> 
> 
> 
> Do any of you coffee aficionados have experience with this or similar 
> devices?  Does anyone know the food science behind this phenomenon of 
> vastly improved flavor?
> 
> 
> 
> Greg
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Solar powered concrete 50-footer

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Now that my electrically-driven attic fan doesn't work, my attic ventilation 
is solar driven, too; probably some natural gas-driven from boiler in 
basement, too.   ;<)


Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Solar powered concrete 50-footer



How well does the solar attic fan work?  About what dos it cost?

On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Interesting reference to Florida and solar power.

There’s little effort on the part of utilities in Florida to get involved
with solar power at the consumer level.  For that matter, I believe some
have even legislated against it.  I understand why, but in a place like
this where we get sunny days nearly year round wouldn’t it make sense to
promote solar energy?

I would jump at the chance to do solar, but there’s a huge risk in that 
if

you’re not in it for the long haul you’ll lose. If I did a solar
installation here and sold the house five years down the road I would
either lose money or have to increase the sale price to cover the long 
term

commitments solar requires.  There are some companies who are leasing
installations, but there’s concerns over how to handle those leases when
the property changes hands.

I have a solar powered attic fan…..

Dan



> On Dec 28, 2014, at 3:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> This is mind blowing.
>
> http://ecogeek.org/2014/12/solar-powered-concrete-hull-boat/
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Coffee Bodum Vacuum

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

i also wonder whether you have to brew a large amount at one time for it to
work properly.

On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Two words:  Coffee press.  Also known as a French press.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Dec 28, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > My son (owner of a 3-pedal 240D) has been making us coffee with the
> > above-named device.  Even to my un-nuanced palate the flavor of said
> coffee
> > is incredibly better than that brewed with a Mellita even using
> unbleached
> > filters.  True, it is fiddly to work with and requires a coarser grind;
> but
> > it certainly delivers on flavor and aroma!
> >
> >
> >
> > Do any of you coffee aficionados have experience with this or similar
> > devices?  Does anyone know the food science behind this phenomenon of
> vastly
> > improved flavor?
> >
> >
> >
> > Greg
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Solar powered concrete 50-footer

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

How well does the solar attic fan work?  About what dos it cost?

On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Interesting reference to Florida and solar power.
>
> There’s little effort on the part of utilities in Florida to get involved
> with solar power at the consumer level.  For that matter, I believe some
> have even legislated against it.  I understand why, but in a place like
> this where we get sunny days nearly year round wouldn’t it make sense to
> promote solar energy?
>
> I would jump at the chance to do solar, but there’s a huge risk in that if
> you’re not in it for the long haul you’ll lose. If I did a solar
> installation here and sold the house five years down the road I would
> either lose money or have to increase the sale price to cover the long term
> commitments solar requires.  There are some companies who are leasing
> installations, but there’s concerns over how to handle those leases when
> the property changes hands.
>
> I have a solar powered attic fan…..
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> > On Dec 28, 2014, at 3:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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[MBZ] Coffee Bodum Vacuum

[Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes]

Folks 

I know vacuum pots well

my mother had a few in the 60's and i used to use the Silex units

they are pricey now

you can put one together by buying parts on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Silex-Vacuum-Coffee-Maker-Pyrex-Upper-Chamber-with-Gasket-/111503129875?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19f61abd13

but if you go silex be aware that there is a larger and smaller gasket size 
funnel top


thanks,

xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Coffee Bodum Vacuum

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Two words:  Coffee press.  Also known as a French press.

Dan


> On Dec 28, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My son (owner of a 3-pedal 240D) has been making us coffee with the
> above-named device.  Even to my un-nuanced palate the flavor of said coffee
> is incredibly better than that brewed with a Mellita even using unbleached
> filters.  True, it is fiddly to work with and requires a coarser grind; but
> it certainly delivers on flavor and aroma!
> 
> 
> 
> Do any of you coffee aficionados have experience with this or similar
> devices?  Does anyone know the food science behind this phenomenon of vastly
> improved flavor?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Solar powered concrete 50-footer

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Interesting reference to Florida and solar power.

There’s little effort on the part of utilities in Florida to get involved with 
solar power at the consumer level.  For that matter, I believe some have even 
legislated against it.  I understand why, but in a place like this where we get 
sunny days nearly year round wouldn’t it make sense to promote solar energy?

I would jump at the chance to do solar, but there’s a huge risk in that if 
you’re not in it for the long haul you’ll lose. If I did a solar installation 
here and sold the house five years down the road I would either lose money or 
have to increase the sale price to cover the long term commitments solar 
requires.  There are some companies who are leasing installations, but there’s 
concerns over how to handle those leases when the property changes hands.

I have a solar powered attic fan…..

Dan



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> http://ecogeek.org/2014/12/solar-powered-concrete-hull-boat/
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Solar powered concrete 50-footer

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Sailboats are solar-powered too.

--R


On 12/28/14 3:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

This is mind blowing.

http://ecogeek.org/2014/12/solar-powered-concrete-hull-boat/
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Coffee Bodum Vacuum

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Yabut...why does it taste so much better?

Greg

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Coffee Bodum Vacuum

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I remember those from the 1950s, except they were metal instead of glass.
They must have lost favor for a reason,

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Coffee Bodum Vacuum

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If only it weren't so fragile..

On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
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> I am sold on this.
>
> On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
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>> Looks like the old vacuum  pot my parents had, but it was stainless
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Coffee Bodum Vacuum

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I am sold on this.

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> Looks like the old vacuum  pot my parents had, but it was stainless
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>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynJv0MNJACc
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[MBZ] OT: Solar powered concrete 50-footer

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

This is mind blowing.

http://ecogeek.org/2014/12/solar-powered-concrete-hull-boat/
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Coffee Bodum Vacuum

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Looks like the old vacuum  pot my parents had, but it was stainless



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Re: [MBZ] Euro Climate Controls

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Did you ask for a list of everything that needs to be fixed/repaired to
make it concours?

On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Wow that is nice, would be a decent deal at about 1/3 the price. For that
> price that seat should not be screwed up.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > This car:
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> > http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/4777032067.html <
> http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/4777032067.html>
> >
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> > Dan
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> >> On Dec 28, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
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> >> What car are y'all talking about here?  I don't see any link to a car,
> just some talk about something to do with climate controls
> >>
> >> --R
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 12/28/14 11:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Good points.  I have been looking to another W140 since they’re easy
> to come by and I have all the parts and tools on hand with two other in the
> driveway.
> >>>
> >>> I agree that it’s nowhere near worth what he’s asking.  While it has
> fantastic records and history, it’s still a 35 year old car and not al that
> unique as far as W116s go.  And W116s don’t have a lot of value these days
> unless they’re a 6.9, but that’s a totally different animal.
> >>>
> >>> I have a secondary conversation going on with him through an alias
> account.  I may use that to see what his bottom line is.
> >>>
> >>> And thanks for the offer, but I think I’ll pass this time.
> >>>
> >>> Dan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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>  I just can't see any 116 being worth anywhere near that kind of
> money. The gas cars are just not at all desirable except to maybe a select
> few. The diesels are great though. Problem is you get the gas 116 then the
> new wears off you would have a hell of a time trying to get rid of it. If
> you want to trade I got a 73 450se with euro lights and bumpers. Course
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Coffee Bodum Vacuum

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynJv0MNJACc

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[MBZ] OT: Coffee Bodum Vacuum

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

My son (owner of a 3-pedal 240D) has been making us coffee with the
above-named device.  Even to my un-nuanced palate the flavor of said coffee
is incredibly better than that brewed with a Mellita even using unbleached
filters.  True, it is fiddly to work with and requires a coarser grind; but
it certainly delivers on flavor and aroma!

 

Do any of you coffee aficionados have experience with this or similar
devices?  Does anyone know the food science behind this phenomenon of vastly
improved flavor?

 

Greg

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Re: [MBZ] RF 126 turn signal

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Anybody have one?  Daughter said it fell off her car yesterday on 
the drive home.  Not quite sure how, but it now needs a new old one.


--R


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I have a set of lenses for a 126 COUPE.   How can flashes of light 
fall off a car?  It emanate from the car, but the turn signal itself 
lives in the ether like the fabled blinker fluid.


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Re: [MBZ] An article that is truthful about electric vehicles

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Nope!  Not at all!  Nothing like a campfire, or a woodstove for heat, 
or smoking meat (and smoked meat, cheese, or fish)   Woodfires are 
good.  (For those of Irish extraction, substitute a peat fire)


Coal smoke reminds me of home, of coal fired locomotives, Steam 
traction engines, my summer in England, and my time in the hollers of 
Kentucky.


It is all good.  God designed systems that take the smoke out of the 
air.  They are called plants, lightening and rain.  These cleansers 
also take human exhaust and change it into good things.  Conversely, 
animals and people take the exhaust of plants, and turn it into good 
things.


I bet my homemade venison pastrami will beat your cat poo jelly.  The 
pastrami was smoked 10-12 hours and it is wonderful.


Andrew sez:

You must be sick


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Re: [MBZ] Oil question.

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

In one of our last moves the pump parts of the two Topsiders I have 
disappeared.  I still use the cans for waste oil storage, but I have 
to keep them up on pallets so they don't leave oily rings on the 
floor.  Both of them leak through the bottom seams.


I have one of the LiquiVac eight quart units.  It's plastic, but it 
does a great job, is easy to keep clean and store, and doesn't leak.


I looked at the fancier upright oil extractors like the MityVac, but 
they're a PITA to have to store.  The LiquiVac is small and easily 
stuck in a cabinet or on a shelf.  Can't do that with the upright 
ones like the MityVac.  Of course there are the larger metal tannk 
style models, but I don't do that many oil changes and the storage 
space is an issue, too.


Dan


My Soda Fire 'xtinguishers are easy to store, and the seams don't 
pop.  they are 316 Stainless and easy to clean up.  They can be left 
outsides and don't deteriorate.  The hose is heavy and does not 
collapse, no matter how thick the oil.  They are all you need, except 
for a source of vacuum to attach to the schrader (tire) valve.


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Re: [MBZ] An article that is truthful about electric vehicles

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Man will never make the transition from tree ape to ground ape.

The tree ape defecates and it falls to the ground, he doesn't care 
because he doesn't walk in it. The ground ape defecates and it falls 
to the ground, he doesn't care because he has no where else to put 
it and does not care to stop eating to stop defecating, so he walks 
around it, walks through it, or generally blames it on another ape 
while continuing to defecate himself.


There are a group of humans currently dedicated to the false logic 
that "it's not my defecation" while seizing on some construct of 
logic that claims theirs stinks less or makes less mess than anyone 
else s. All the while continuing to enjoy the full cultural benefits 
of regular defecation [driving cars, using public transport, 
shopping in stores where all the goods are brought by smelly diesel 
trucks, buying goods made in foreign countries which have no "don't 
defecate on the ground [ie EPA] rules, et al.


Such foolishness. Most who now make complaint have never built a 
fire to survive without shelter, never missed an episode of "The 
Kardassians", enjoy the full benefit of public power and transport. 
Thus, have little to draw from as to why the tree ape became a 
ground ape in the first place [metaphorically ].


Get primitive if you truly believe. Cast off all the things made by 
industry and delivered by transportation. Live each winter without 
heat or shelter [remember, both take energy, which pollute by your 
logic]. Give up gainful employment, it takes energy to travel to 
your work, heat and cool the workplace, move the goods.. A.. but 
you can't do that.. you would soon starve and then "stop defecating" 
...


My, ohhh my,,, what a problem... well... back to the trees. 
which you already cut down to make fire and heat.. and shelter... 
ooopps..


Grant... Who loves the visible steam cloud coming off the cooling 
ponds at the local Nuclear power plant. It's not clean, but it moves 
the large steaming pile of public defecation into the next 35 
centuries so he won't have to deal with it in his lifetime..


BS ... We all know what that is.

MS ... More of the same.

PhD.. Piled higher and Deeper

Seems to me, we have PhD's shoveling BS based on the MS principle 
that somehow we can pick up the clean end of a turd. [Broad strokes 
here, nothing personal intended].


Hear, Hear(thumping a cane made form a tree for effect)

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Re: [MBZ] An article that is truthful about electric vehicles

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

‎Original Message  
From: Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 12:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] An article that is truthful about electric vehicles

>So what kind of list was this >intended for?

Probably Banned Light. 

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] RF 126 turn signal

[WILTON via Mercedes]

I have one.  How 'bout $25 plus shipping at $15?  $40?
That's 126 RF turn signal assy w/lens, seal, lamp socket, bulb, mtng nut.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 11:47 AM
Subject: [MBZ] RF 126 turn signal


Anybody have one?  Daughter said it fell off her car yesterday on the 
drive home.  Not quite sure how, but it now needs a new old one.


--R



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Re: [MBZ] An article that is truthful about electric vehicles

[Addison Thompson via Mercedes]

Grant,
Right on! Very inventive explanation of reality.
Addison
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On Dec 28, 2014, at 10:39 AM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:

From: G Mann 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] An article that is truthful about electric vehicles
Date: December 28, 2014 9:10:47 AM PST

Man will never make the transition from tree ape to ground ape.

The tree ape defecates and it falls to the ground, he doesn't care because
he doesn't walk in it. The ground ape defecates and it falls to the ground,
he doesn't care because he has no where else to put it and does not care to
stop eating to stop defecating, so he walks around it, walks through it, or
generally blames it on another ape while continuing to defecate himself.

There are a group of humans currently dedicated to the false logic that
"it's not my defecation" while seizing on some construct of logic that
claims theirs stinks less or makes less mess than anyone else s. All the
while continuing to enjoy the full cultural benefits of regular defecation
[driving cars, using public transport, shopping in stores where all the
goods are brought by smelly diesel trucks, buying goods made in foreign
countries which have no "don't defecate on the ground [ie EPA] rules, et al.

Such foolishness. Most who now make complaint have never built a fire to
survive without shelter, never missed an episode of "The Kardassians",
enjoy the full benefit of public power and transport. Thus, have little to
draw from as to why the tree ape became a ground ape in the first place
[metaphorically ].

Get primitive if you truly believe. Cast off all the things made by
industry and delivered by transportation. Live each winter without heat or
shelter [remember, both take energy, which pollute by your logic]. Give up
gainful employment, it takes energy to travel to your work, heat and cool
the workplace, move the goods.. A.. but you can't do that.. you would
soon starve and then "stop defecating" ...

My, ohhh my,,, what a problem... well... back to the trees. which you
already cut down to make fire and heat.. and shelter... ooopps..

Grant... Who loves the visible steam cloud coming off the cooling ponds at
the local Nuclear power plant. It's not clean, but it moves the large
steaming pile of public defecation into the next 35 centuries so he won't
have to deal with it in his lifetime..

BS ... We all know what that is.
MS ... More of the same.
PhD.. Piled higher and Deeper
Seems to me, we have PhD's shoveling BS based on the MS principle that
somehow we can pick up the clean end of a turd. [Broad strokes here,
nothing personal intended].
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Re: [MBZ] Euro Climate Controls

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Wow that is nice, would be a decent deal at about 1/3 the price. For that price 
that seat should not be screwed up.

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> On Dec 28, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> This car:
> 
> http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/4777032067.html 
> 
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> What car are y'all talking about here?  I don't see any link to a car, just 
>> some talk about something to do with climate controls
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/28/14 11:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Good points.  I have been looking to another W140 since they’re easy to 
>>> come by and I have all the parts and tools on hand with two other in the 
>>> driveway.
>>> 
>>> I agree that it’s nowhere near worth what he’s asking.  While it has 
>>> fantastic records and history, it’s still a 35 year old car and not al that 
>>> unique as far as W116s go.  And W116s don’t have a lot of value these days 
>>> unless they’re a 6.9, but that’s a totally different animal.
>>> 
>>> I have a secondary conversation going on with him through an alias account. 
>>>  I may use that to see what his bottom line is.
>>> 
>>> And thanks for the offer, but I think I’ll pass this time.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 28, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I just can't see any 116 being worth anywhere near that kind of money. The 
 gas cars are just not at all desirable except to maybe a select few. The 
 diesels are great though. Problem is you get the gas 116 then the new 
 wears off you would have a hell of a time trying to get rid of it. If you 
 want to trade I got a 73 450se with euro lights and bumpers. Course it's 
 probably more of a parts car but I will swap with you :)
 
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Re: [MBZ] An article that is truthful about electric vehicles

[WILTON via Mercedes]

'Nother ATTABOY!

Wilton

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From: "G Mann via Mercedes" 
To: "Curly McLain" <126die...@gmail.com>; "Mercedes Discussion List" 


Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] An article that is truthful about electric vehicles



Man will never make the transition from tree ape to ground ape.

The tree ape defecates and it falls to the ground, he doesn't care because
he doesn't walk in it. The ground ape defecates and it falls to the 
ground,
he doesn't care because he has no where else to put it and does not care 
to
stop eating to stop defecating, so he walks around it, walks through it, 
or

generally blames it on another ape while continuing to defecate himself.

There are a group of humans currently dedicated to the false logic that
"it's not my defecation" while seizing on some construct of logic that
claims theirs stinks less or makes less mess than anyone else s. All the
while continuing to enjoy the full cultural benefits of regular defecation
[driving cars, using public transport, shopping in stores where all the
goods are brought by smelly diesel trucks, buying goods made in foreign
countries which have no "don't defecate on the ground [ie EPA] rules, et 
al.


Such foolishness. Most who now make complaint have never built a fire to
survive without shelter, never missed an episode of "The Kardassians",
enjoy the full benefit of public power and transport. Thus, have little to
draw from as to why the tree ape became a ground ape in the first place
[metaphorically ].

Get primitive if you truly believe. Cast off all the things made by
industry and delivered by transportation. Live each winter without heat or
shelter [remember, both take energy, which pollute by your logic]. Give up
gainful employment, it takes energy to travel to your work, heat and cool
the workplace, move the goods.. A.. but you can't do that.. you would
soon starve and then "stop defecating" ...

My, ohhh my,,, what a problem... well... back to the trees. which you
already cut down to make fire and heat.. and shelter... ooopps..

Grant... Who loves the visible steam cloud coming off the cooling ponds at
the local Nuclear power plant. It's not clean, but it moves the large
steaming pile of public defecation into the next 35 centuries so he won't
have to deal with it in his lifetime..

BS ... We all know what that is.
MS ... More of the same.
PhD.. Piled higher and Deeper
Seems to me, we have PhD's shoveling BS based on the MS principle that
somehow we can pick up the clean end of a turd. [Broad strokes here,
nothing personal intended].

On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Well, those attitudes will have to die if we are to make progress in our

air quality environment.

On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:



I agree those attitudes will have to die to make progress.   I love the
smell of coal smoke and wood smoke in the morning!

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Re: [MBZ] An article that is truthful about electric vehicles

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

So what kind of list was this intended for?
On Dec 28, 2014 12:10 PM, "G Mann via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Man will never make the transition from tree ape to ground ape.
>
> The tree ape defecates and it falls to the ground, he doesn't care because
> he doesn't walk in it. The ground ape defecates and it falls to the ground,
> he doesn't care because he has no where else to put it and does not care to
> stop eating to stop defecating, so he walks around it, walks through it, or
> generally blames it on another ape while continuing to defecate himself.
>
> There are a group of humans currently dedicated to the false logic that
> "it's not my defecation" while seizing on some construct of logic that
> claims theirs stinks less or makes less mess than anyone else s. All the
> while continuing to enjoy the full cultural benefits of regular defecation
> [driving cars, using public transport, shopping in stores where all the
> goods are brought by smelly diesel trucks, buying goods made in foreign
> countries which have no "don't defecate on the ground [ie EPA] rules, et
> al.
>
> Such foolishness. Most who now make complaint have never built a fire to
> survive without shelter, never missed an episode of "The Kardassians",
> enjoy the full benefit of public power and transport. Thus, have little to
> draw from as to why the tree ape became a ground ape in the first place
> [metaphorically ].
>
> Get primitive if you truly believe. Cast off all the things made by
> industry and delivered by transportation. Live each winter without heat or
> shelter [remember, both take energy, which pollute by your logic]. Give up
> gainful employment, it takes energy to travel to your work, heat and cool
> the workplace, move the goods.. A.. but you can't do that.. you would
> soon starve and then "stop defecating" ...
>
> My, ohhh my,,, what a problem... well... back to the trees. which you
> already cut down to make fire and heat.. and shelter... ooopps..
>
> Grant... Who loves the visible steam cloud coming off the cooling ponds at
> the local Nuclear power plant. It's not clean, but it moves the large
> steaming pile of public defecation into the next 35 centuries so he won't
> have to deal with it in his lifetime..
>
> BS ... We all know what that is.
> MS ... More of the same.
> PhD.. Piled higher and Deeper
> Seems to me, we have PhD's shoveling BS based on the MS principle that
> somehow we can pick up the clean end of a turd. [Broad strokes here,
> nothing personal intended].
>
> On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Well, those attitudes will have to die if we are to make progress in our
> >> air quality environment.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >
> > I agree those attitudes will have to die to make progress.   I love the
> > smell of coal smoke and wood smoke in the morning!
> >
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Re: [MBZ] An article that is truthful about electric vehicles

[OK Don via Mercedes]

The trick is to recharge the electric cars at night when there is excess
generation capacity that has to be dealt with anyway. A more constant
demand for electricity will make the utilities more efficient, or at least
easier to manage. There will still be more coal, gas, uranium, etc. used,
but it will be less than if the new demand is one top of the current peak
load times. TANSTAAFL.

On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> To a certain degree, electricity generation is going to happen
> regardless.  It might be an interesting report to show how much
> generation is changing due to electric cars.
> mao
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] An article that is truthful about electric vehicles

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

While you ponder and wax poetic about obscenely expensive nuclear power
(which was originally marketed as "too cheap to meter"), the price of
emission-free solar PV panels continues to drop to the point where it's
clearly a cheaper alternative..

On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 12:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:

> Man will never make the transition from tree ape to ground ape.
>
> The tree ape defecates and it falls to the ground, he doesn't care because
> he doesn't walk in it. The ground ape defecates and it falls to the ground,
> he doesn't care because he has no where else to put it and does not care to
> stop eating to stop defecating, so he walks around it, walks through it, or
> generally blames it on another ape while continuing to defecate himself.
>
> There are a group of humans currently dedicated to the false logic that
> "it's not my defecation" while seizing on some construct of logic that
> claims theirs stinks less or makes less mess than anyone else s. All the
> while continuing to enjoy the full cultural benefits of regular defecation
> [driving cars, using public transport, shopping in stores where all the
> goods are brought by smelly diesel trucks, buying goods made in foreign
> countries which have no "don't defecate on the ground [ie EPA] rules, et
> al.
>
> Such foolishness. Most who now make complaint have never built a fire to
> survive without shelter, never missed an episode of "The Kardassians",
> enjoy the full benefit of public power and transport. Thus, have little to
> draw from as to why the tree ape became a ground ape in the first place
> [metaphorically ].
>
> Get primitive if you truly believe. Cast off all the things made by
> industry and delivered by transportation. Live each winter without heat or
> shelter [remember, both take energy, which pollute by your logic]. Give up
> gainful employment, it takes energy to travel to your work, heat and cool
> the workplace, move the goods.. A.. but you can't do that.. you would
> soon starve and then "stop defecating" ...
>
> My, ohhh my,,, what a problem... well... back to the trees. which you
> already cut down to make fire and heat.. and shelter... ooopps..
>
> Grant... Who loves the visible steam cloud coming off the cooling ponds at
> the local Nuclear power plant. It's not clean, but it moves the large
> steaming pile of public defecation into the next 35 centuries so he won't
> have to deal with it in his lifetime..
>
> BS ... We all know what that is.
> MS ... More of the same.
> PhD.. Piled higher and Deeper
> Seems to me, we have PhD's shoveling BS based on the MS principle that
> somehow we can pick up the clean end of a turd. [Broad strokes here,
> nothing personal intended].
>
> On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Well, those attitudes will have to die if we are to make progress in our
> >> air quality environment.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >
> > I agree those attitudes will have to die to make progress.   I love the
> > smell of coal smoke and wood smoke in the morning!
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Euro Climate Controls

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That was WICKED funny!

On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes, it’s important to have fun.  Especially with a German car.  You can
> chuckle all the way to the Sudetenland while you’re preparing to annex it….
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Dec 28, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Oh I saw that. It is fun, oil is spelled oel, and there are many other
> things in German.
> >
> > --R
>
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Re: [MBZ] An article that is truthful about electric vehicles

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Man will never make the transition from tree ape to ground ape.

The tree ape defecates and it falls to the ground, he doesn't care because
he doesn't walk in it. The ground ape defecates and it falls to the ground,
he doesn't care because he has no where else to put it and does not care to
stop eating to stop defecating, so he walks around it, walks through it, or
generally blames it on another ape while continuing to defecate himself.

There are a group of humans currently dedicated to the false logic that
"it's not my defecation" while seizing on some construct of logic that
claims theirs stinks less or makes less mess than anyone else s. All the
while continuing to enjoy the full cultural benefits of regular defecation
[driving cars, using public transport, shopping in stores where all the
goods are brought by smelly diesel trucks, buying goods made in foreign
countries which have no "don't defecate on the ground [ie EPA] rules, et al.

Such foolishness. Most who now make complaint have never built a fire to
survive without shelter, never missed an episode of "The Kardassians",
enjoy the full benefit of public power and transport. Thus, have little to
draw from as to why the tree ape became a ground ape in the first place
[metaphorically ].

Get primitive if you truly believe. Cast off all the things made by
industry and delivered by transportation. Live each winter without heat or
shelter [remember, both take energy, which pollute by your logic]. Give up
gainful employment, it takes energy to travel to your work, heat and cool
the workplace, move the goods.. A.. but you can't do that.. you would
soon starve and then "stop defecating" ...

My, ohhh my,,, what a problem... well... back to the trees. which you
already cut down to make fire and heat.. and shelter... ooopps..

Grant... Who loves the visible steam cloud coming off the cooling ponds at
the local Nuclear power plant. It's not clean, but it moves the large
steaming pile of public defecation into the next 35 centuries so he won't
have to deal with it in his lifetime..

BS ... We all know what that is.
MS ... More of the same.
PhD.. Piled higher and Deeper
Seems to me, we have PhD's shoveling BS based on the MS principle that
somehow we can pick up the clean end of a turd. [Broad strokes here,
nothing personal intended].

On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well, those attitudes will have to die if we are to make progress in our
>> air quality environment.
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>
> I agree those attitudes will have to die to make progress.   I love the
> smell of coal smoke and wood smoke in the morning!
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Re: [MBZ] Euro Climate Controls

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yes, it’s important to have fun.  Especially with a German car.  You can 
chuckle all the way to the Sudetenland while you’re preparing to annex it….

Dan


> On Dec 28, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh I saw that. It is fun, oil is spelled oel, and there are many other things 
> in German.
> 
> --R


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Re: [MBZ] Euro Climate Controls

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Oh I saw that. It is fun, oil is spelled oel, and there are many other 
things in German.


--R


On 12/28/14 11:58 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

This car:

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/4777032067.html  



Dan



>On Dec 28, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
wrote:
>
>What car are y'all talking about here?  I don't see any link to a car, just 
some talk about something to do with climate controls
>
>--R
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Re: [MBZ] Euro Climate Controls

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This car:

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/4777032067.html 



Dan


> On Dec 28, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What car are y'all talking about here?  I don't see any link to a car, just 
> some talk about something to do with climate controls
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> On 12/28/14 11:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Good points.  I have been looking to another W140 since they’re easy to come 
>> by and I have all the parts and tools on hand with two other in the driveway.
>> 
>> I agree that it’s nowhere near worth what he’s asking.  While it has 
>> fantastic records and history, it’s still a 35 year old car and not al that 
>> unique as far as W116s go.  And W116s don’t have a lot of value these days 
>> unless they’re a 6.9, but that’s a totally different animal.
>> 
>> I have a secondary conversation going on with him through an alias account.  
>> I may use that to see what his bottom line is.
>> 
>> And thanks for the offer, but I think I’ll pass this time.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just can't see any 116 being worth anywhere near that kind of money. The 
>>> gas cars are just not at all desirable except to maybe a select few. The 
>>> diesels are great though. Problem is you get the gas 116 then the new wears 
>>> off you would have a hell of a time trying to get rid of it. If you want to 
>>> trade I got a 73 450se with euro lights and bumpers. Course it's probably 
>>> more of a parts car but I will swap with you :)
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Euro Climate Controls

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

What car are y'all talking about here?  I don't see any link to a car, 
just some talk about something to do with climate controls


--R


On 12/28/14 11:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Good points.  I have been looking to another W140 since they’re easy to come by 
and I have all the parts and tools on hand with two other in the driveway.

I agree that it’s nowhere near worth what he’s asking.  While it has fantastic 
records and history, it’s still a 35 year old car and not al that unique as far 
as W116s go.  And W116s don’t have a lot of value these days unless they’re a 
6.9, but that’s a totally different animal.

I have a secondary conversation going on with him through an alias account.  I 
may use that to see what his bottom line is.

And thanks for the offer, but I think I’ll pass this time.

Dan




On Dec 28, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I just can't see any 116 being worth anywhere near that kind of money. The gas 
cars are just not at all desirable except to maybe a select few. The diesels 
are great though. Problem is you get the gas 116 then the new wears off you 
would have a hell of a time trying to get rid of it. If you want to trade I got 
a 73 450se with euro lights and bumpers. Course it's probably more of a parts 
car but I will swap with you :)

Sent from my iPhone



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Re: [MBZ] Euro Climate Controls

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Good points.  I have been looking to another W140 since they’re easy to come by 
and I have all the parts and tools on hand with two other in the driveway.

I agree that it’s nowhere near worth what he’s asking.  While it has fantastic 
records and history, it’s still a 35 year old car and not al that unique as far 
as W116s go.  And W116s don’t have a lot of value these days unless they’re a 
6.9, but that’s a totally different animal.

I have a secondary conversation going on with him through an alias account.  I 
may use that to see what his bottom line is.

And thanks for the offer, but I think I’ll pass this time.

Dan



> On Dec 28, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I just can't see any 116 being worth anywhere near that kind of money. The 
> gas cars are just not at all desirable except to maybe a select few. The 
> diesels are great though. Problem is you get the gas 116 then the new wears 
> off you would have a hell of a time trying to get rid of it. If you want to 
> trade I got a 73 450se with euro lights and bumpers. Course it's probably 
> more of a parts car but I will swap with you :)
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 


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[MBZ] RF 126 turn signal

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Anybody have one?  Daughter said it fell off her car yesterday on the 
drive home.  Not quite sure how, but it now needs a new old one.


--R



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Re: [MBZ] Euro Climate Controls

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It only makes sense if he amortizes it by driving 5 years with minimal
upkeep.  At that point he can junk it and still come out ahead.

On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I just can't see any 116 being worth anywhere near that kind of money. The
> gas cars are just not at all desirable except to maybe a select few. The
> diesels are great though. Problem is you get the gas 116 then the new wears
> off you would have a hell of a time trying to get rid of it. If you want to
> trade I got a 73 450se with euro lights and bumpers. Course it's probably
> more of a parts car but I will swap with you :)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 28, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Here are a some things to consider that make my situation unique:
> >
> > My SL500 has a rebuilt title.  The car is solid, the work was done and
> well documented.  I would challenge the typical owner to find anything on
> this car that would give it away as having a rebuilt title, other than the
> sticker on the A pillar the state put there when it was inspected.  The
> insurance companies don’t care and will insure it for market value.  To
> them it’s no different than a “regular” car.
> >
> > Being a rebuilt title, people are afraid of it.  No dealer would ever
> take it on trade.  It’s a bastard.  Retail for a non-rebuilt example like
> mine would be around $8k.  With the rebuilt title it’s worth maybe $5k, and
> that’s if I could find a buyer.  That being said, it has 81k on it and is
> in excellent condition.  Everything works and is in great shape.  I have a
> set of R230 staggered 18” wheels for it, too.  A really nice performance
> upgrade.
> >
> > Additional considerations:
> >
> > While it sounds crazy, a convertible in Florida is not that great.
> Right now it’s nice, as the weather is decent and will be until March or
> early April.  Once “summer” kicks in, you’re going to be hot, humid and
> broiled by the sun.  I have gotten a sunburn on my forehead after two days
> of driving it home with the top down in the summer months.  My drive takes
> me around 25 minutes doorstep to doorstep.
> >
> > Say what you want, but the R129 styling is soulless.  The remarks about
> it looking like a Mustang are all too true.  Other than the tristar on the
> grille, it’s tough to pick it out of the crowd.
> >
> > While I do enjoy driving the car, it’s more impractical than I expected
> it to be.  I need a sedan more often than I need a coupe.  Luckily the wife
> has a sedan.
> >
> > It rides like an old wooden skateboard with metal wheels.  It’s
> definitely the tighter, harsher ride of a W124 rather than the comfy,
> living room couch ride of a W140.
> >
> > I really like it with the hard top on.  It’s a tight, quiet ride that
> you would expect from a sports car of its vintage.  Gas mileage is pretty
> decent with the hard top on, too, although I never had expectations that
> this car would sip gasoline.  I get 18-19 mpg with the hard top on.  That
> number drops to maybe 15 mpg with the soft top up or down.  Lots of air
> resistance in either one of those modes.
> >
> > While I might consider a swap, I’m beginning to think about picking up a
> W140 beater off of CL and just keeping it in reserve.  I really don’t have
> the driveway space, but there are a bunch of late 90s W140s around that
> need cosmetics or just a serious Martha’ing to be decent drivers.
> >
> > I have some concerns about using a 36 year old car as a daily driver.
> While there’s no reason it couldn’t be, I fear the risk of a needed repair
> and availability of parts could cause me problems.  There is no question
> this car is sorted, and sorted well.  Other than the climate control issue,
> which has got to be relatively simple to resolve, this car has had a level
> of maintenance and upkeep almost unheard of.  That doesn’t mean something
> won’t break, but the big issues like timing chains and valves, for example,
> have been addressed in the recent past.
> >
> > I’m not looking to flip the car - there’s no way you could make any
> money on it.  I am looking for a daily driver sedan.
> >
> > I don’t know what I will do.  I’ve got to sleep on this for a while and
> mull it over before I take any action.  I will probably sit on it until
> next weekend and then go take a look.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >> On Dec 28, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Maybe you 2 can smoke some crack together. This sounds like the
> craziest deal I have heard of.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Oil question.

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

In one of our last moves the pump parts of the two Topsiders I have 
disappeared.  I still use the cans for waste oil storage, but I have to keep 
them up on pallets so they don’t leave oily rings on the floor.  Both of them 
leak through the bottom seams.

I have one of the LiquiVac eight quart units.  It’s plastic, but it does a 
great job, is easy to keep clean and store, and doesn’t leak.

I looked at the fancier upright oil extractors like the MityVac, but they’re a 
PITA to have to store.  The LiquiVac is small and easily stuck in a cabinet or 
on a shelf.  Can’t do that with the upright ones like the MityVac.  Of course 
there are the larger metal tannk style models, but I don’t do that many oil 
changes and the storage space is an issue, too.

Dan


> On Dec 28, 2014, at 11:33 AM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> My buddy blew one of  ours up. It imploded while sucking a M104.
> 

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Re: [MBZ] radidios

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Better than coming out of an impersonal Mercedes.

On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> If anyone is interested, but you have to be SERIOUSLY interested!
>
> --R
>
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/4783646382.html
>
>
>MERCEDES BENZ RADIOS (MURRELLS INLET)
>
> I HAVE TWO ORIGINAL MERCEDES BENZ RADIOS TO SELL @ $100.00 EACH ALSO HAVE
> THE "BECKER" MERCEDES BENZ RADIO TO SELL @ $100.00 OBO, SERIOUS
> INQUIRIES ONLY, THEY CAME OUT OF PERSONAL MERCEDES I HAD IN THE PAST, DO
> NOT EVEN KNOW IF THEY STILL WORK, DO NOT ASK FOR PICTURES AS IF YOU KNOW
> WHAT THE MERCEDES BENZ RADIOS LOOK LIKE YOU WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT
> YOU ARE INQUIRING ABOUT, THANKS
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Euro Climate Controls

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I just can't see any 116 being worth anywhere near that kind of money. The gas 
cars are just not at all desirable except to maybe a select few. The diesels 
are great though. Problem is you get the gas 116 then the new wears off you 
would have a hell of a time trying to get rid of it. If you want to trade I got 
a 73 450se with euro lights and bumpers. Course it's probably more of a parts 
car but I will swap with you :)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 28, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Here are a some things to consider that make my situation unique:
> 
> My SL500 has a rebuilt title.  The car is solid, the work was done and well 
> documented.  I would challenge the typical owner to find anything on this car 
> that would give it away as having a rebuilt title, other than the sticker on 
> the A pillar the state put there when it was inspected.  The insurance 
> companies don’t care and will insure it for market value.  To them it’s no 
> different than a “regular” car.
> 
> Being a rebuilt title, people are afraid of it.  No dealer would ever take it 
> on trade.  It’s a bastard.  Retail for a non-rebuilt example like mine would 
> be around $8k.  With the rebuilt title it’s worth maybe $5k, and that’s if I 
> could find a buyer.  That being said, it has 81k on it and is in excellent 
> condition.  Everything works and is in great shape.  I have a set of R230 
> staggered 18” wheels for it, too.  A really nice performance upgrade.
> 
> Additional considerations:
> 
> While it sounds crazy, a convertible in Florida is not that great.  Right now 
> it’s nice, as the weather is decent and will be until March or early April.  
> Once “summer” kicks in, you’re going to be hot, humid and broiled by the sun. 
>  I have gotten a sunburn on my forehead after two days of driving it home 
> with the top down in the summer months.  My drive takes me around 25 minutes 
> doorstep to doorstep.
> 
> Say what you want, but the R129 styling is soulless.  The remarks about it 
> looking like a Mustang are all too true.  Other than the tristar on the 
> grille, it’s tough to pick it out of the crowd.
> 
> While I do enjoy driving the car, it’s more impractical than I expected it to 
> be.  I need a sedan more often than I need a coupe.  Luckily the wife has a 
> sedan.
> 
> It rides like an old wooden skateboard with metal wheels.  It’s definitely 
> the tighter, harsher ride of a W124 rather than the comfy, living room couch 
> ride of a W140.
> 
> I really like it with the hard top on.  It’s a tight, quiet ride that you 
> would expect from a sports car of its vintage.  Gas mileage is pretty decent 
> with the hard top on, too, although I never had expectations that this car 
> would sip gasoline.  I get 18-19 mpg with the hard top on.  That number drops 
> to maybe 15 mpg with the soft top up or down.  Lots of air resistance in 
> either one of those modes.
> 
> While I might consider a swap, I’m beginning to think about picking up a W140 
> beater off of CL and just keeping it in reserve.  I really don’t have the 
> driveway space, but there are a bunch of late 90s W140s around that need 
> cosmetics or just a serious Martha’ing to be decent drivers.
> 
> I have some concerns about using a 36 year old car as a daily driver.  While 
> there’s no reason it couldn’t be, I fear the risk of a needed repair and 
> availability of parts could cause me problems.  There is no question this car 
> is sorted, and sorted well.  Other than the climate control issue, which has 
> got to be relatively simple to resolve, this car has had a level of 
> maintenance and upkeep almost unheard of.  That doesn’t mean something won’t 
> break, but the big issues like timing chains and valves, for example, have 
> been addressed in the recent past.
> 
> I’m not looking to flip the car - there’s no way you could make any money on 
> it.  I am looking for a daily driver sedan.
> 
> I don’t know what I will do.  I’ve got to sleep on this for a while and mull 
> it over before I take any action.  I will probably sit on it until next 
> weekend and then go take a look.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Maybe you 2 can smoke some crack together. This sounds like the craziest 
>> deal I have heard of.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Euro Climate Controls

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Here are a some things to consider that make my situation unique:

My SL500 has a rebuilt title.  The car is solid, the work was done and well 
documented.  I would challenge the typical owner to find anything on this car 
that would give it away as having a rebuilt title, other than the sticker on 
the A pillar the state put there when it was inspected.  The insurance 
companies don’t care and will insure it for market value.  To them it’s no 
different than a “regular” car.

Being a rebuilt title, people are afraid of it.  No dealer would ever take it 
on trade.  It’s a bastard.  Retail for a non-rebuilt example like mine would be 
around $8k.  With the rebuilt title it’s worth maybe $5k, and that’s if I could 
find a buyer.  That being said, it has 81k on it and is in excellent condition. 
 Everything works and is in great shape.  I have a set of R230 staggered 18” 
wheels for it, too.  A really nice performance upgrade.

Additional considerations:

While it sounds crazy, a convertible in Florida is not that great.  Right now 
it’s nice, as the weather is decent and will be until March or early April.  
Once “summer” kicks in, you’re going to be hot, humid and broiled by the sun.  
I have gotten a sunburn on my forehead after two days of driving it home with 
the top down in the summer months.  My drive takes me around 25 minutes 
doorstep to doorstep.

Say what you want, but the R129 styling is soulless.  The remarks about it 
looking like a Mustang are all too true.  Other than the tristar on the grille, 
it’s tough to pick it out of the crowd.

While I do enjoy driving the car, it’s more impractical than I expected it to 
be.  I need a sedan more often than I need a coupe.  Luckily the wife has a 
sedan.

It rides like an old wooden skateboard with metal wheels.  It’s definitely the 
tighter, harsher ride of a W124 rather than the comfy, living room couch ride 
of a W140.

I really like it with the hard top on.  It’s a tight, quiet ride that you would 
expect from a sports car of its vintage.  Gas mileage is pretty decent with the 
hard top on, too, although I never had expectations that this car would sip 
gasoline.  I get 18-19 mpg with the hard top on.  That number drops to maybe 15 
mpg with the soft top up or down.  Lots of air resistance in either one of 
those modes.

While I might consider a swap, I’m beginning to think about picking up a W140 
beater off of CL and just keeping it in reserve.  I really don’t have the 
driveway space, but there are a bunch of late 90s W140s around that need 
cosmetics or just a serious Martha’ing to be decent drivers.

I have some concerns about using a 36 year old car as a daily driver.  While 
there’s no reason it couldn’t be, I fear the risk of a needed repair and 
availability of parts could cause me problems.  There is no question this car 
is sorted, and sorted well.  Other than the climate control issue, which has 
got to be relatively simple to resolve, this car has had a level of maintenance 
and upkeep almost unheard of.  That doesn’t mean something won’t break, but the 
big issues like timing chains and valves, for example, have been addressed in 
the recent past.

I’m not looking to flip the car - there’s no way you could make any money on 
it.  I am looking for a daily driver sedan.

I don’t know what I will do.  I’ve got to sleep on this for a while and mull it 
over before I take any action.  I will probably sit on it until next weekend 
and then go take a look.

Dan

> On Dec 28, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe you 2 can smoke some crack together. This sounds like the craziest deal 
> I have heard of.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Oil question.

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

My buddy blew one of  ours up. It imploded while sucking a M104.
On Dec 28, 2014 8:25 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Nope, mine is made in the good 'ole USA.
>
> I have two of the Topsider cans sitting in the garage. Both of them seep
> oil at the bottom seams of the cans. So much for workmanship.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Dec 28, 2014, at 12:17 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >> Hmm that is interesting. Why?  I have always gotten the engine hot.
> >> On Dec 27, 2014 7:36 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The one I have says to run the engine (if it's cold for 2-3 minutes)
> >>> before using the extractor.  They specifically say to not use it if the
> >>> engine is hot.
> >> > Dan
> >> >
> >
> > Cheepchinee prastic that melts at 180º?
> >
> > Mine is all steel except the hoses and the copper tubing on the suction
> side of the HF vacuum.
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[MBZ] radidios

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

If anyone is interested, but you have to be SERIOUSLY interested!

--R


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   MERCEDES BENZ RADIOS (MURRELLS INLET)

I HAVE TWO ORIGINAL MERCEDES BENZ RADIOS TO SELL @ $100.00 EACH ALSO 
HAVE THE "BECKER" MERCEDES BENZ RADIO TO SELL @ $100.00 OBO, SERIOUS
INQUIRIES ONLY, THEY CAME OUT OF PERSONAL MERCEDES I HAD IN THE PAST, DO 
NOT EVEN KNOW IF THEY STILL WORK, DO NOT ASK FOR PICTURES AS IF YOU KNOW

WHAT THE MERCEDES BENZ RADIOS LOOK LIKE YOU WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT
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Re: [MBZ] Euro Climate Controls

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Maybe you 2 can smoke some crack together. This sounds like the craziest deal I 
have heard of.

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> On Dec 28, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Don’t know.  There are a number of different green colors used in that time 
> frame, and you can’t trust the color rendering of the pictures.  It looks 
> like Silver Green Metallic (861) but I’m not sure.  It’s light enough to be 
> Cypress Green Metallic as well (876).
> 
> Thanks, Dwight.  I have never owned a W116.  There’s a gap in my ownership 
> from W114s to W123s that I might need to fill.  I will say that people who 
> have had W116s really seem to like them.
> 
> I’m toying with the possibility of taking a look a this car.  The more I 
> speak with the owner the more I find out about its history and the piles of 
> spares and extra parts the original owner passed along with the car.  There 
> is no question it was overmaintained, which is good. The only real issue 
> would be if the owner is interested in a trade for my 97 SL500, as I’m not 
> paying $6500 for a W116.
> 
> We’ll see.  I may reach out to him tomorrow and see if he wants to get 
> together.  It’s a good two hour drive, so I am not going to be passing back 
> and forth numerous times.  I’ll look and make a decision after I’ve seen the 
> car.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2014, at 11:51 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> What's the paint code/name?
>> 
>> On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 11:25 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> Well Dan I happen to think w116 models are cool. Good luck
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Re: [MBZ] Euro Climate Controls

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Don’t know.  There are a number of different green colors used in that time 
frame, and you can’t trust the color rendering of the pictures.  It looks like 
Silver Green Metallic (861) but I’m not sure.  It’s light enough to be Cypress 
Green Metallic as well (876).

Thanks, Dwight.  I have never owned a W116.  There’s a gap in my ownership from 
W114s to W123s that I might need to fill.  I will say that people who have had 
W116s really seem to like them.

I’m toying with the possibility of taking a look a this car.  The more I speak 
with the owner the more I find out about its history and the piles of spares 
and extra parts the original owner passed along with the car.  There is no 
question it was overmaintained, which is good. The only real issue would be if 
the owner is interested in a trade for my 97 SL500, as I’m not paying $6500 for 
a W116.

We’ll see.  I may reach out to him tomorrow and see if he wants to get 
together.  It’s a good two hour drive, so I am not going to be passing back and 
forth numerous times.  I’ll look and make a decision after I’ve seen the car.

Dan



> On Dec 27, 2014, at 11:51 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> What's the paint code/name?
> 
> On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 11:25 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> Well Dan I happen to think w116 models are cool. Good luck

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Re: [MBZ] Oil question.

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Nope, mine is made in the good 'ole USA.

I have two of the Topsider cans sitting in the garage. Both of them seep oil at 
the bottom seams of the cans. So much for workmanship.

Dan

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On Dec 28, 2014, at 12:17 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

>> Hmm that is interesting. Why?  I have always gotten the engine hot.
>> On Dec 27, 2014 7:36 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> The one I have says to run the engine (if it's cold for 2-3 minutes)
>>> before using the extractor.  They specifically say to not use it if the
>>> engine is hot.
>> > Dan
>> >
> 
> Cheepchinee prastic that melts at 180º?
> 
> Mine is all steel except the hoses and the copper tubing on the suction side 
> of the HF vacuum.
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