Re: [MBZ] M103? Idle Problem

2015-01-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

124 wiring harness? Just a guess.


Paid $1000 to 'recondition' the engine wiring???
Replace the whole harness with new!

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] SOT (somewhat OT): TOyota share its patents.

2015-01-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

fmiser via Mercedes wrote:


Pipe shouldn't be much harder than natual gas - execpt H2 is so
small it leaks easily.  Very easily.


Especially in plastic pipes, IIRC.
And I forget what sorts of metal pipes get Hydrogen embrittlement.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Running Older vehicles

2015-01-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

The 4 is a185hp though which is staggering for the displacement.


It's a 2.2, makes the same HP as a 1985 2.3-16 (euro) or a 1992 Olds Achieva SCX 
(2.3L Quad 4).
I thought a 944 had staggering output in the 1990s, but IIRC it was a pretty big 
4 cylinder.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Free Talk Live radio

2015-01-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

For that matter, I have met very highly educated people who are total idiots.


So has everybody who ever enrolled in a College of Education.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Its coooold out there

2015-01-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
For me hunting season is super important. I spend a lot of time freezing my 
butt off but it gets my body to jumpstart the transition from warm to cold 
weather. This year had a couple of particularly brutal days where it wasn't 
really that cold but the wind would whip right through me. At this point I'm 
okay down into the teens working outside without gloves. Of course I put on my 
long underwear first thing in the morning at take it off at bedtime. ;)
-Curt
  From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there
   
I'm amazed at how fast we lose our acclimation such temps cited by Curt. 
'Have been out in that and lower many times, but I just went for a short 
walk (hobble with 4-wheel walker) around the yard; 'was wearing appropriate 
L. L. Bean jacket, but I was glad to get back inside and away from the 
breezy 39°F outside.  ;)

Wilton

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To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there


 Yep, not bad at all.  ATTABOY!

 Wilton

 - Original Message - 
 From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 3:54 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there


 Okay so its not that cold by real cold standards. We've gotten as low 
 as -11F but last week it rained and I found that two of my snowmobiles 
 had frozen to the ground.The skis usually stick to the ground after a 
 ride, I think they warm up some from the friction and then freeze later.
 So anyway this happened to me once before and I ruined the weights inside 
 a clutch getting that one free so I wanted a better method. Guys online 
 suggested boiling water so I hauled out some big pots and boiled them up. 
 Took about 5 gallons of fresh of the stove boiling water EACH to get the 
 two machines free. Fortunately the track wasn't stuck on either of them, 
 that'd be a bear.
 Anyway I got them both parked up on 2x4s so they won't do that again. 
 Amazing that in 8 years of living here I've only had that happen twice. 
 Of course for it to occur it has to rain and then get real cold...
 Afterward Angie helped me pull the machine with the stuck (I'm calling it 
 stuck and not seized, it makes it sound better) engine up next to the 
 garage where I can more easily pull the engine out. We managed that would 
 either of us yelling or anything, not a bad day. ;)
 -Curt
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[MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - TOM NELMS FARM, PART II

2015-01-10 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

Yep, another one:

TOM NELMS FARM, PART II
By Wilton Strickland

   On the dirt road where we lived in 1941, '42 and '43 was a small, red 
clay hill.  I think not only I, a boy of only 6 to 9 then, but the entire 
family dreaded having to travel this part of the dirt road from our house 
out the paved road when it was wet.  The hill seemed quite steep to a little 
boy - it was especially steep and long after a little rain or snow.  Deep 
ruts of slippery, red clay made this part of the road especially hard to 
navigate, even for the most skillful and experienced driver.  My brother, 
Carson, 15 to 17, was usually our driver.  (Though Daddy had cars and drove 
during the teens and '20's, I never saw him drive.  Carson or W. B. (William 
Berry, Jr.) was always our family driver while I was a child.)  Carson 
would try to give the little Ford a good running start before getting to 
the worst of the red mud and try to make it over the crest, slipping and 
sliding (sometimes violently) from one side to the other without going into 
the ditch.  The trick was to have just the right momentum to make it over 
the hill without having to apply so much power to cause the rear wheels to 
spin excessively, sending the car out of control.
   Daddy always occupied the right, front seat and would sit way up on the 
edge of his seat, leaning forward, and holding onto the lower, under-edge of 
the instrument panel (dashboard) as if to lighten the load and urge the 
car forward as we negotiated the red hill.  I don't know if it were a result 
of Carson's skillful driving, our good luck, Daddy's expert pull on the 
dashboard or our strong thoughts on the matter that got us over the red 
hill, but of the many times slipping and sliding from one side to the other, 
I remember going into the ditch only once.  Daddy or Carson got a neighbor 
with a pair of mules to pull the car back onto the road.
   (On a Sunday afternoon in 1995, I took Mama for a short ride along the 
road that used to give us such trouble.  The black Mercedes glided smoothly 
 quietly up the slight incline.  I said to Mama, You feel that - 'you 
notice that - do you feel anything?

   She replied, No, I didn't feel a thing.
   By then, we had crested the slight incline, and I stopped, eased back 
down the hill and tried it again.  Again, we glided smoothly and quietly 
up the hill.  Again, I asked Mama if she noticed anything; again, her reply 
was negative.  Finally, I said to her, That's the point - we hardly 
notice anything, now.  Isn't it amazing the difference 50 or more years can 
make?  Then I asked if she could remember that same hill on the family's 
'37 Ford during or after some rainy weather in 1942/43?

   Oh, my, she replied, I certainly do!
   The hill under the Mercedes was almost nonexistent - hardly any hill 
at all.  The crest had been graded down and pulled into the valleys to each 
side of it.  We rolled easily, solidly and securely on asphalt pavement, 
with hardly a sound nor quiver from the vehicle and the road, quite a change 
from the same ride on the little Ford so many years before.
   Whenever we forget to be thankful for improvements to our transportation 
system and too many other things in our lives that we take for granted, we 
should remember the red hills that have often impeded our way but have now 
been transformed by somebody's ingenuity, hard work, persistence and 
perseverance into hardly any hill at all.)
   During much of this time during World War II, certain foodstuffs and 
fuel were rationed.  To supplement fuel for the car, Daddy and Carson often 
bought five gallons of gasoline and mixed two or three gallons of kerosene 
with it.  We went down the road trailing a vortex of smoke.
I made and flew many kites during our three years on this farm.  I used 
dog fennel stalks for the kite frames, which were held together with cotton 
string (tobacco twine - cotton string used to attach leaves of tobacco to 
sticks to facilitate hanging in the curing barn).  String around the 
perimeter of the crossed sticks completed the kite frame.  The kites were 
covered with newspaper held in place with paste I made with flour and water. 
I used strips of old cloth for the tails and, of course, tobacco twine as 
the string.
I also worked on several civil engineering projects in a small 
stream, the Branch, in the woods not far from the house, where I spent a 
lot of time playing, building dams or diverting the stream.  A major lesson 
here was that leaves and sticks with wet, squishy mud and too much sand do 
not make good dams.  I also carved a lot of boats and cars of pine and pine 
bark; also made many small boats with paddle wheels powered by rubber bands 
cut from discarded car tire inner tubes.
I also played a lot with a baseball that I made by wrapping tobacco 
twine tightly around a small rubber ball I found somewhere - probably a jack 
rock (jacks) ball.  To put a first class cover on my homemade balls, I 

Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - TOM NELMS FARM, PART II

2015-01-10 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 11:57 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:

 Then he and Daddy walked around the corner to the Ford dealership
 immediately nearby and purchased a fuel pump for about $3.00.  They soon
 had the pump replaced, and we were on our way.


ATTABOY!

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Its coooold out there

2015-01-10 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
I'm amazed at how fast we lose our acclimation such temps cited by Curt. 
'Have been out in that and lower many times, but I just went for a short 
walk (hobble with 4-wheel walker) around the yard; 'was wearing appropriate 
L. L. Bean jacket, but I was glad to get back inside and away from the 
breezy 39°F outside.  ;)


Wilton

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To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com

Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there



Yep, not bad at all.  ATTABOY!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 3:54 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there


Okay so its not that cold by real cold standards. We've gotten as low 
as -11F but last week it rained and I found that two of my snowmobiles 
had frozen to the ground.The skis usually stick to the ground after a 
ride, I think they warm up some from the friction and then freeze later.
So anyway this happened to me once before and I ruined the weights inside 
a clutch getting that one free so I wanted a better method. Guys online 
suggested boiling water so I hauled out some big pots and boiled them up. 
Took about 5 gallons of fresh of the stove boiling water EACH to get the 
two machines free. Fortunately the track wasn't stuck on either of them, 
that'd be a bear.
Anyway I got them both parked up on 2x4s so they won't do that again. 
Amazing that in 8 years of living here I've only had that happen twice. 
Of course for it to occur it has to rain and then get real cold...
Afterward Angie helped me pull the machine with the stuck (I'm calling it 
stuck and not seized, it makes it sound better) engine up next to the 
garage where I can more easily pull the engine out. We managed that would 
either of us yelling or anything, not a bad day. ;)

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] SOT (somewhat OT): TOyota share its patents.

2015-01-10 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
The larger problem is storage.  Hydrogen is not dense so any usable amount
requires ridiculously huge tanks, ridiculously low temperatures,
ridiculously high pressures, or non-gaseous form (like a metal hydride) that
must be converted back into gas.  You really need to run the numbers on
these schemes and account for all the inefficiencies (and waste products) at
every step of the process from initial energy source (like solar) through
final energy delivery (like proplusion).

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
 Jim Cathey via Mercedes
 Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 3:41 PM
 To: Mitch Haley; Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] SOT (somewhat OT): TOyota share its patents.
 
  And I forget what sorts of metal pipes get Hydrogen embrittlement.
 
 Steel.  Copper.  Probably others.
 
 -- Jim
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] SOT (somewhat OT): TOyota share its patents.

2015-01-10 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

And I forget what sorts of metal pipes get Hydrogen embrittlement.


Steel.  Copper.  Probably others.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Its coooold out there

2015-01-10 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

Yep, not bad at all.  ATTABOY!

Wilton

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From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 3:54 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there


Okay so its not that cold by real cold standards. We've gotten as low 
as -11F but last week it rained and I found that two of my snowmobiles had 
frozen to the ground.The skis usually stick to the ground after a ride, I 
think they warm up some from the friction and then freeze later.
So anyway this happened to me once before and I ruined the weights inside 
a clutch getting that one free so I wanted a better method. Guys online 
suggested boiling water so I hauled out some big pots and boiled them up. 
Took about 5 gallons of fresh of the stove boiling water EACH to get the 
two machines free. Fortunately the track wasn't stuck on either of them, 
that'd be a bear.
Anyway I got them both parked up on 2x4s so they won't do that again. 
Amazing that in 8 years of living here I've only had that happen twice. Of 
course for it to occur it has to rain and then get real cold...
Afterward Angie helped me pull the machine with the stuck (I'm calling it 
stuck and not seized, it makes it sound better) engine up next to the 
garage where I can more easily pull the engine out. We managed that would 
either of us yelling or anything, not a bad day. ;)

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Oh Martha.....

2015-01-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Any good quality stuff.  Stay away from the Walmart garbage, as a lot of what 
you see there and at the FLAPS are lower quality versions of the actual product.

My (current) personal favorite is Collinite Liquid Insulator Wax 845:

http://www.amazon.com/Collinite-Liquid-Insulator-Wax-845/dp/B000JK2D06 
http://www.amazon.com/Collinite-Liquid-Insulator-Wax-845/dp/B000JK2D06

I also highly recommend 3M Perfect-It Liquid Show Car Wax:

http://www.amazon.com/3M-39026-Perfect-It-Show-Liquid/dp/B0009H50VS 
http://www.amazon.com/3M-39026-Perfect-It-Show-Liquid/dp/B0009H50VS

Both of these work well in our climates and are easy to apply and remove.  The 
3M product can probably be found locally at a NAPA or a better quality FLAPS.  
You really can’t go wrong with anything from 3M.

I would be sure to clay bar the finish before you wax, especially if you’re not 
planning on seeing the car for a while.

Martha

 On Jan 10, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 My oldest girl child's Jetta finally and completely crapped out. She picked
 out a 2013 Ford Fiesta Sedan. Tuxedo Black Metallic.
 She's fixing to take it back to LA and what I want to know is, Martha, what
 wax, if any, should I apply to that finish before she takes it away?
 
 Thanks, Martha Dan
 
 Bob R
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[MBZ] OT: Its coooold out there

2015-01-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Okay so its not that cold by real cold standards. We've gotten as low as -11F 
but last week it rained and I found that two of my snowmobiles had frozen to 
the ground.The skis usually stick to the ground after a ride, I think they warm 
up some from the friction and then freeze later.
So anyway this happened to me once before and I ruined the weights inside a 
clutch getting that one free so I wanted a better method. Guys online suggested 
boiling water so I hauled out some big pots and boiled them up. Took about 5 
gallons of fresh of the stove boiling water EACH to get the two machines free. 
Fortunately the track wasn't stuck on either of them, that'd be a bear.
Anyway I got them both parked up on 2x4s so they won't do that again. Amazing 
that in 8 years of living here I've only had that happen twice. Of course for 
it to occur it has to rain and then get real cold...
Afterward Angie helped me pull the machine with the stuck (I'm calling it stuck 
and not seized, it makes it sound better) engine up next to the garage where I 
can more easily pull the engine out. We managed that would either of us yelling 
or anything, not a bad day. ;)
-Curt
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[MBZ] Oh Martha.....

2015-01-10 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
My oldest girl child's Jetta finally and completely crapped out. She picked
out a 2013 Ford Fiesta Sedan. Tuxedo Black Metallic.
She's fixing to take it back to LA and what I want to know is, Martha, what
wax, if any, should I apply to that finish before she takes it away?

Thanks, Martha Dan

Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Oh Martha.....

2015-01-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Nope.  Not that I know of.

I hear people complain about black finishes and swirl marks, but in my opinion 
that’s more of an issue when they’re not applying or removing the wax properly, 
or using a powered buffer or polisher.

If you’re doing it by hand I wouldn’t worry about it.

Dan


 On Jan 10, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Do I need to do anything differently because it is black?
 
 Bob R
 
 On Jan 10, 2015 11:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 Any good quality stuff.  Stay away from the Walmart garbage, as a lot of what 
 you see there and at the FLAPS are lower quality versions of the actual 
 product.
 
 My (current) personal favorite is Collinite Liquid Insulator Wax 845:
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Collinite-Liquid-Insulator-Wax-845/dp/B000JK2D06 
 http://www.amazon.com/Collinite-Liquid-Insulator-Wax-845/dp/B000JK2D06 
 http://www.amazon.com/Collinite-Liquid-Insulator-Wax-845/dp/B000JK2D06 
 http://www.amazon.com/Collinite-Liquid-Insulator-Wax-845/dp/B000JK2D06
 
 I also highly recommend 3M Perfect-It Liquid Show Car Wax:
 
 http://www.amazon.com/3M-39026-Perfect-It-Show-Liquid/dp/B0009H50VS 
 http://www.amazon.com/3M-39026-Perfect-It-Show-Liquid/dp/B0009H50VS 
 http://www.amazon.com/3M-39026-Perfect-It-Show-Liquid/dp/B0009H50VS 
 http://www.amazon.com/3M-39026-Perfect-It-Show-Liquid/dp/B0009H50VS
 
 Both of these work well in our climates and are easy to apply and remove.  
 The 3M product can probably be found locally at a NAPA or a better quality 
 FLAPS.  You really can’t go wrong with anything from 3M.
 
 I would be sure to clay bar the finish before you wax, especially if you’re 
 not planning on seeing the car for a while.
 
 Martha
 
  On Jan 10, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  My oldest girl child's Jetta finally and completely crapped out. She picked
  out a 2013 Ford Fiesta Sedan. Tuxedo Black Metallic.
  She's fixing to take it back to LA and what I want to know is, Martha, what
  wax, if any, should I apply to that finish before she takes it away?
 
  Thanks, Martha Dan
 
  Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Free Talk Live radio

2015-01-10 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Andrew wrote:
 Right on.  Physicists are notorious idiots, whereas it's very hard to find 
 a Geologist who meet the criteria.

 But their heads are hard as rocks?
 Rick 
 Tongue planted firmly in cheek  
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G: Once knew a geology Phd candidate whose thesis was that the 19th-20th 
century (Czech?) chicken farmers in Masaryktown, Florida had chosen the smaller 
land grant to the south rather than the larger land grant to the north because 
of the geological formations (water pumping depth, flatter land, etc?) I think 
it had something to do with geological events being the reason for the 
differences.
He had heard that if two professors on the committee that granted geology Phds 
got into an argument, his Phd thesis would be sidetracked and he would get his 
degree.
Would that sort of fluid situation ever happen in physics? 

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Re: [MBZ] Free Talk Live radio

2015-01-10 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Our culture seems to be devolving.

Greg

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To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Free Talk Live radio

We are Devo!

Sent from my iPad

 On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Are we not men?
 
 --R

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Re: [MBZ] OT For Mao

2015-01-10 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Rick wrote:
 ‎Check out Illinois most iconic restaurant.

 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thrillist/the-most-iconic-restauran_b_6443114.html‎


Oh Yes!! - Gene  Jude's
thanks
mao

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[MBZ] OT: Heat Pump Defrost Setting

2015-01-10 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
I have two (budget)  heat pumps with simple defrost controls: a thermostat
on the coil and a timer.  The defrost setting on the 2 ton Payne unit is set
to 90 minutes and on the 3 ton Maytag unit it's set to 30 minutes.  These
are both the factory settings.  The Maytag unit does seem to defrost a lot
and the Payne unit did have a lot of ice (on one side) one time after an ice
storm last year.  I live in the NC Piedmont near the town of Kittrell

 

Knowing the wealth of knowledge on this list, I thought I'd ask for
recommendations on these defrost settings.  They are easy e3nough to change.
Is  60 minutes a good compromise?  

 

Scott

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Its coooold out there

2015-01-10 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I also used to be acclimated to that climate, my first 23 years on earth I
lived in north-central Wisconsin, in the country about 8 miles from the
nearest town (Ogema, which I believe is a Chippewa Indian name).

Ten years ago, I took a job here in Charleston repairing commercial (flat)
roofs, and by the end of that summer I was acclimated to South Carolina.
Fortunately that job was temporary, filler between leaving active duty and
finding something permanent which required an engineering degree.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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[MBZ] Anyone interested in W123 Euro Headlights?

2015-01-10 Thread Craig via Mercedes
I have some W123 Euro headlights that need lenses.

Is anyone interested in them before I throw them out?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Its coooold out there

2015-01-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I saw deer heading from Silver Spring to the DC airport back in early December.
-Curt


  From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com 
 Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 6:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there
   
They roam the DC suburbs, I am told...  Though all I see around here are deer - 
lots of them.



On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

Not much where I live, a little I suppose. More out west and farther north. 
Coyote hunting is kinda specialized, they hunt mostly at night I think.
We've shot a couple on the farm in Maine. There was one more I should have shot 
but I was worried it was somebodies dog. When it turned its head and looked at 
me I realized it was no dog but by the time I got the gun up it was long gone.
-Curt
  From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 6:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there
   
Is there coyote hunting up there, Curt?



On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

For me hunting season is super important. I spend a lot of time freezing my 
butt off but it gets my body to jumpstart the transition from warm to cold 
weather. This year had a couple of particularly brutal days where it wasn't 
really that cold but the wind would whip right through me. At this point I'm 
okay down into the teens working outside without gloves. Of course I put on my 
long underwear first thing in the morning at take it off at bedtime. ;)
-Curt
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 To: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there

I'm amazed at how fast we lose our acclimation such temps cited by Curt.
'Have been out in that and lower many times, but I just went for a short
walk (hobble with 4-wheel walker) around the yard; 'was wearing appropriate
L. L. Bean jacket, but I was glad to get back inside and away from the
breezy 39°F outside.  ;)

Wilton

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To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List
mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there


 Yep, not bad at all.  ATTABOY!

 Wilton

 - Original Message -
 From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 3:54 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there


 Okay so its not that cold by real cold standards. We've gotten as low
 as -11F but last week it rained and I found that two of my snowmobiles
 had frozen to the ground.The skis usually stick to the ground after a
 ride, I think they warm up some from the friction and then freeze later.
 So anyway this happened to me once before and I ruined the weights inside
 a clutch getting that one free so I wanted a better method. Guys online
 suggested boiling water so I hauled out some big pots and boiled them up.
 Took about 5 gallons of fresh of the stove boiling water EACH to get the
 two machines free. Fortunately the track wasn't stuck on either of them,
 that'd be a bear.
 Anyway I got them both parked up on 2x4s so they won't do that again.
 Amazing that in 8 years of living here I've only had that happen twice.
 Of course for it to occur it has to rain and then get real cold...
 Afterward Angie helped me pull the machine with the stuck (I'm calling it
 stuck and not seized, it makes it sound better) engine up next to the
 garage where I can more easily pull the engine out. We managed that would
 either of us yelling or anything, not a bad day. ;)
 -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Free Talk Live radio

2015-01-10 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Greg wrote:
 Our culture seems to be devolving.

You sound like radical islamist terrorist?
You mean this great nation is not what it has been?
btw, has anyone seen any of the Charly cartoons from Paris?  Are these
online someplace?  Someone said the Charly satires are a cross between
SouthPark, MAD, MontyPython.  Perhaps someone has a link to english
translated Charly satire for some of us uneducated?
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Its coooold out there

2015-01-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Not much where I live, a little I suppose. More out west and farther north. 
Coyote hunting is kinda specialized, they hunt mostly at night I think.
We've shot a couple on the farm in Maine. There was one more I should have shot 
but I was worried it was somebodies dog. When it turned its head and looked at 
me I realized it was no dog but by the time I got the gun up it was long gone.
-Curt
  From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 6:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there
   
Is there coyote hunting up there, Curt?



On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

For me hunting season is super important. I spend a lot of time freezing my 
butt off but it gets my body to jumpstart the transition from warm to cold 
weather. This year had a couple of particularly brutal days where it wasn't 
really that cold but the wind would whip right through me. At this point I'm 
okay down into the teens working outside without gloves. Of course I put on my 
long underwear first thing in the morning at take it off at bedtime. ;)
-Curt
      From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there

I'm amazed at how fast we lose our acclimation such temps cited by Curt.
'Have been out in that and lower many times, but I just went for a short
walk (hobble with 4-wheel walker) around the yard; 'was wearing appropriate
L. L. Bean jacket, but I was glad to get back inside and away from the
breezy 39°F outside.  ;)

Wilton

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From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List
mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there


 Yep, not bad at all.  ATTABOY!

 Wilton

 - Original Message -
 From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 3:54 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there


 Okay so its not that cold by real cold standards. We've gotten as low
 as -11F but last week it rained and I found that two of my snowmobiles
 had frozen to the ground.The skis usually stick to the ground after a
 ride, I think they warm up some from the friction and then freeze later.
 So anyway this happened to me once before and I ruined the weights inside
 a clutch getting that one free so I wanted a better method. Guys online
 suggested boiling water so I hauled out some big pots and boiled them up.
 Took about 5 gallons of fresh of the stove boiling water EACH to get the
 two machines free. Fortunately the track wasn't stuck on either of them,
 that'd be a bear.
 Anyway I got them both parked up on 2x4s so they won't do that again.
 Amazing that in 8 years of living here I've only had that happen twice.
 Of course for it to occur it has to rain and then get real cold...
 Afterward Angie helped me pull the machine with the stuck (I'm calling it
 stuck and not seized, it makes it sound better) engine up next to the
 garage where I can more easily pull the engine out. We managed that would
 either of us yelling or anything, not a bad day. ;)
 -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Its coooold out there

2015-01-10 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 19:30:36 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I also used to be acclimated to that climate, my first 23 years on
 earth I lived in north-central Wisconsin, in the country about 8 miles
 from the nearest town (Ogema, which I believe is a Chippewa Indian
 name).
 
 Ten years ago, I took a job here in Charleston repairing commercial
 (flat) roofs, and by the end of that summer I was acclimated to South
 Carolina.

It's possible to re-acclimate to the cold after having been acclimated to
the hot. I went from where Pasadena, CA in the summer at 85 deg.F. was
cold to the Black Forest area north of Colorado Springs and thought 18
deg.F. was a good temperature.

I am about to do that again, having worked on our pickup in the sun in
Austin, TX when it was 112 and now preparing to move to northern Indiana.


 Fortunately that job was temporary, filler between leaving active duty
 and finding something permanent which required an engineering degree.

So did you find something? Who, what, when, where, why, and how?  :-)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] An article that is truthful about electric vehicles

2015-01-10 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
The rea still pays for rural power. Urban areas subsidize rural ones as tge
cost per user to provide this public good is higher in rural areas. It
amounts to a lot of money for rural cooperatives each year.
On Dec 30, 2014 9:23 AM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Post WW2 there was the REA .. Rural Electrification Act which built power
 lines to rural locations.  Prior to that.. you were on your own at a
 farm.

 I don't know the exact date of the passage of REA, but it took years to
 build out the lines.


 On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
 wrote:

  On Tue, 30 Dec 2014 03:05:07 -0600 fmiser via Mercedes
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
Craig wrote:
   
There were places east of Colorado Springs that didn't get
electricity until after WW2.
  
   Aren't there places east of Colorado Springs that _still_ don't
   have electricity?
 
  If you mean, roads down which no electric lines run, that's true.
 
  I would guess that all the homes have commercial electricity -- the folks
  who bought our place ran electric lines to it. That prompted several
  others to build out there (which is why we didn't have electric lines
  run).
 
 
   That part of Colorado is _sparsely_ populated.
 
  Yes, indeed.
 
 
  Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Its coooold out there

2015-01-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Is there coyote hunting up there, Curt?

On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 For me hunting season is super important. I spend a lot of time freezing
 my butt off but it gets my body to jumpstart the transition from warm to
 cold weather. This year had a couple of particularly brutal days where it
 wasn't really that cold but the wind would whip right through me. At this
 point I'm okay down into the teens working outside without gloves. Of
 course I put on my long underwear first thing in the morning at take it off
 at bedtime. ;)
 -Curt
   From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 4:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there

 I'm amazed at how fast we lose our acclimation such temps cited by Curt.
 'Have been out in that and lower many times, but I just went for a short
 walk (hobble with 4-wheel walker) around the yard; 'was wearing appropriate
 L. L. Bean jacket, but I was glad to get back inside and away from the
 breezy 39°F outside.  ;)

 Wilton

 - Original Message -
 From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 4:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there


  Yep, not bad at all.  ATTABOY!
 
  Wilton
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 3:54 PM
  Subject: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there
 
 
  Okay so its not that cold by real cold standards. We've gotten as low
  as -11F but last week it rained and I found that two of my snowmobiles
  had frozen to the ground.The skis usually stick to the ground after a
  ride, I think they warm up some from the friction and then freeze later.
  So anyway this happened to me once before and I ruined the weights
 inside
  a clutch getting that one free so I wanted a better method. Guys online
  suggested boiling water so I hauled out some big pots and boiled them
 up.
  Took about 5 gallons of fresh of the stove boiling water EACH to get the
  two machines free. Fortunately the track wasn't stuck on either of them,
  that'd be a bear.
  Anyway I got them both parked up on 2x4s so they won't do that again.
  Amazing that in 8 years of living here I've only had that happen twice.
  Of course for it to occur it has to rain and then get real cold...
  Afterward Angie helped me pull the machine with the stuck (I'm calling
 it
  stuck and not seized, it makes it sound better) engine up next to the
  garage where I can more easily pull the engine out. We managed that
 would
  either of us yelling or anything, not a bad day. ;)
  -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - TOM NELMS FARM, PART II

2015-01-10 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
WILTON wrote:
 Joyce and I sometimes toasted marshmallows...

Who made the marshmallows?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - TOM NELMS FARM, PART II

2015-01-10 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

'Don't know - one of our rare, store-bought luxuries.   ;)

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - TOM NELMS FARM, PART II



WILTON wrote:

Joyce and I sometimes toasted marshmallows...


Who made the marshmallows?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone interested in W123 Euro Headlights?

2015-01-10 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
If no one else speaks up, I will take them.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
 On Jan 10, 2015 8:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 I have some W123 Euro headlights that need lenses.

 Is anyone interested in them before I throw them out?


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] SOT (somewhat OT): TOyota share its patents.

2015-01-10 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 16:56:55 -0500 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 The larger problem is storage.  Hydrogen is not dense so any usable
 amount requires ridiculously huge tanks, ridiculously low temperatures,
 ridiculously high pressures, or non-gaseous form (like a metal hydride)
 that must be converted back into gas.  You really need to run the
 numbers on these schemes and account for all the inefficiencies (and
 waste products) at every step of the process from initial energy source
 (like solar) through final energy delivery (like proplusion).

I vaguely recall some mention some years ago that a much-increased
free-release of hydrogen (from much increased usage) would do something
harmful to the environment. Ozone layer? I forget ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Heat Pump Defrost Setting

2015-01-10 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Probably just a jumper on the control board, Google is your friend.

More Google work should reveal what the recommended settings are for your
area.

There is always trial and error...

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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