[MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!
Having gotten tired of trying to drive in and from Albuquerque with intermittent flashers, I solved the problem this evening. I went to Pep Boys, bought a two terminal flasher, cut two of the socket pins out of my flakey MB flasher, spliced in some wire, and voilá! It works just fine. Cheap, too. Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: flasher.substitute.1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 76682 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20150601/3233e9f6/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: flasher.substitute.2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 179379 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20150601/3233e9f6/attachment-0001.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is Wrong With This Picture?
+1 Dan On Jun 1, 2015, at 9:34 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Probably special cheap WalMart formulation. Their standard approach. Disclosure- I think Walmart is a good example of evil. Rant off. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!
So how can you tell if a light is not working now??? On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The more gooder solution I used was a timed flash relay when i swapped out the incandescent bulbs for LED in the R107. There are no longer the epileptic blinking when a bulb is out or the voltage is too low because of some gremlin clay -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!
The more gooder solution I used was a timed flash relay when i swapped out the incandescent bulbs for LED in the R107. There are no longer the epileptic blinking when a bulb is out or the voltage is too low because of some gremlin clay On Jun 2, 2015, at 6:39 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: THat would qualify as a Cathey with oak leaves awards if you'd only used a salvaged flasher. As it is, it is a catheyesque fix and deserves a Cathey award! As I understand it, now you have no 4 way flashers. Is that correct? I always thought integrating the turn signals with the 4 way was a dumb solution, but I am sure it solves other problems, like feedback if both turn signals and 4 ways are put on at the same time. Having gotten tired of trying to drive in and from Albuquerque with intermittent flashers, I solved the problem this evening. I went to Pep Boys, bought a two terminal flasher, cut two of the socket pins out of my flakey MB flasher, spliced in some wire, and voilá! It works just fine. Cheap, too. Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: flasher.substitute.1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 76682 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20150601/3233e9f6/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: flasher.substitute.2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 179379 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20150601/3233e9f6/attachment-0001.jpg __ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord
But both the Edsel and Delorean are sought after collectable cars. I doubt any of the current crop of plug in greenie weenie cars will be much sought after. Not so sure todays kids will look back upon their time in a priapus the way kids did 40 years ago with a VW Bug. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jun 2, 2015, at 7:55 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Curt, All true, I did take a little artistic license on the Volt, but it is such a handy whipping boy when it comes to the whole green machine thing. Based on sales volume and public acceptance, it has been a stunning.. failure... Sort of like Edsel, or Delorian... grand idea, poor actual preformance and return on investment. Still, I take your point, and will however keep owning diesels. Grant... On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Grant, As much as I like picking on the greenie weenies I think you may have missed the fact that the volt is a series hybrid, it has a gas engine so it can keep going when the battery dies. Actually in being a series hybrid I like it, conceptually anyway, a lot more than a parallel hybrid like the pious Prius. The fact that it can cover some mileage on just batteries makes it better as a plugin option for city folk that don't drive much. On the whole I'll keep my Jetta. In fact Angie is pushing me to find another... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Date:Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:22 AM Subject:Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord And how far is that Starbucks? ;) Wilton snip Wilton, The nearest Starbucks to El Rancho Playa Fin Del Mundo is 92 miles, so if I owned a Chevy Volt, I would only have to walk the last 47 miles to buy that $9.00 latte`... Then of course, the tow bill to recover and recharge the Volt so I could drive it another 45 miles [with AC on full of course, since it was 107° here yesterday with ground temps measured at 138°] before abandoning it yet again. Hahaha.. Thanks just the same, I'll plug in my diesel. Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!
I do a pre-flight check when she goes out. The dang S430 has messed up sensors and decides that I have blown bulbs. I changed the bulbs that have failed, but the thing still insists the bulbs are out. It depends on some ambiguous stray neutrino whether the indicator goes crazy clicking itself while the turn signal is blinking as expected. Contact cleaner, bulb grease and sanding the fitting does not help. clay On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:03 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: So how can you tell if a light is not working now??? On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The more gooder solution I used was a timed flash relay when i swapped out the incandescent bulbs for LED in the R107. There are no longer the epileptic blinking when a bulb is out or the voltage is too low because of some gremlin clay -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord
Curly wrote: If those small nuke plants ever become reality, that could move up the list. The problem with nuke now is that they are very large, and very expensive to build, and operate, and contribute to terrorist concerns. As I understand, thorium reactors are much safer to operate and are useless for weapons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium-based_nuclear_power ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Power steering
I really liked the unpowered feel in Gump. Not so pleased with the dead feel of the 300d clay On Jun 1, 2015, at 11:24 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: I would say that my 115 300D requires more effort than most vehicles that I have driven with power steering. My W115 200D drives great with manual steering. Yes, it's a bit harder in a parking lot. But _other_ than that, you don't even notice. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!
But is one bulb is not of the factory specified type, the indicator stays on. I do a pre-flight check when she goes out. The dang S430 has messed up sensors and decides that I have blown bulbs. I changed the bulbs that have failed, but the thing still insists the bulbs are out. It depends on some ambiguous stray neutrino whether the indicator goes crazy clicking itself while the turn signal is blinking as expected. Contact cleaner, bulb grease and sanding the fitting does not help. clay On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:03 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: So how can you tell if a light is not working now??? On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The more gooder solution I used was a timed flash relay when i swapped out the incandescent bulbs for LED in the R107. There are no longer the epileptic blinking when a bulb is out or the voltage is too low because of some gremlin clay -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.* - Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!
Interesting that you mention this, as my new (to me) S430 has thrown warnings for two lamps recently, but both are working. I clear the fault and ignore it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 2, 2015, at 3:22 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I do a pre-flight check when she goes out. The dang S430 has messed up sensors and decides that I have blown bulbs. I changed the bulbs that have failed, but the thing still insists the bulbs are out. It depends on some ambiguous stray neutrino whether the indicator goes crazy clicking itself while the turn signal is blinking as expected. Contact cleaner, bulb grease and sanding the fitting does not help. clay On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:03 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: So how can you tell if a light is not working now??? On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The more gooder solution I used was a timed flash relay when i swapped out the incandescent bulbs for LED in the R107. There are no longer the epileptic blinking when a bulb is out or the voltage is too low because of some gremlin clay -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!
I have to clear faults midway down the road. It works fine for a mile or ten, then decides it is no longer happy. Not even when I use the dang blinker... just ... because clay On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Interesting that you mention this, as my new (to me) S430 has thrown warnings for two lamps recently, but both are working. I clear the fault and ignore it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 2, 2015, at 3:22 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I do a pre-flight check when she goes out. The dang S430 has messed up sensors and decides that I have blown bulbs. I changed the bulbs that have failed, but the thing still insists the bulbs are out. It depends on some ambiguous stray neutrino whether the indicator goes crazy clicking itself while the turn signal is blinking as expected. Contact cleaner, bulb grease and sanding the fitting does not help. clay On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:03 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: So how can you tell if a light is not working now??? On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The more gooder solution I used was a timed flash relay when i swapped out the incandescent bulbs for LED in the R107. There are no longer the epileptic blinking when a bulb is out or the voltage is too low because of some gremlin clay -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!
Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: If I recall, there was a problem with a relay. They were in Yellowstone Park if I recall and there was not much available locally but he found a length of household electrical wire and a household light switch and rigged it up so that he could turn on the fan from inside the car, manually. It got him home so that he could fix it properly. My first car was a 1975 CVCC Honda Civic. The electric fan was activated by a thermostatic switch in the bottom tank of the radiator. When the coolant being returned to the engine was deemed too warm, the fan came on. Until, of course, the switch died. Fortunately, the switch hooked up with bullet connectors, one male, one female. So all I had to do was unplug both wires, plug them together, and the fan would come on with the ignition. When the weather got cooler, put the wires back the way they belong. IIRC, I never did replace that switch. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord
Yeah, a pipe dream. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 3:30 PM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Curly wrote: If those small nuke plants ever become reality, that could move up the list. The problem with nuke now is that they are very large, and very expensive to build, and operate, and contribute to terrorist concerns. As I understand, thorium reactors are much safer to operate and are useless for weapons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium-based_nuclear_power ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!
They are factory spec. I tried the garbage FLAPS stuff and went with euro spec. Still do the same clay On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: But is one bulb is not of the factory specified type, the indicator stays on. I do a pre-flight check when she goes out. The dang S430 has messed up sensors and decides that I have blown bulbs. I changed the bulbs that have failed, but the thing still insists the bulbs are out. It depends on some ambiguous stray neutrino whether the indicator goes crazy clicking itself while the turn signal is blinking as expected. Contact cleaner, bulb grease and sanding the fitting does not help. clay On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:03 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: So how can you tell if a light is not working now??? On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The more gooder solution I used was a timed flash relay when i swapped out the incandescent bulbs for LED in the R107. There are no longer the epileptic blinking when a bulb is out or the voltage is too low because of some gremlin clay -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.* - Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is Wrong With This Picture?
I often suggest that the average person never looks farther ahead than yesterday... -Curt From: fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is Wrong With This Picture? Randy wrote: Don't blame WalMart. Barrett-Jackson is just trying to capitalize on the name. Look at all the junk out there with the NASCAR label. Curt wrote: I expect some marketing firm is capitalizing. Barrett-Jackson got paid some big chunk of cash, the other company takes the actual proceeds.Bad idea in the end I think, it'll water down their brand. Probably. I'll bet it will help sales for this quarter. And are there any public companies left that look any further to the future than next quarter? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord
But will probably never gain approval for production because people are irrationally scared of nuke plants. -Curt From: fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: fmiser fmi...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord Curly wrote: If those small nuke plants ever become reality, that could move up the list. The problem with nuke now is that they are very large, and very expensive to build, and operate, and contribute to terrorist concerns. As I understand, thorium reactors are much safer to operate and are useless for weapons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium-based_nuclear_power ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord
What about the Teslas where you can drive into a replacement station, the old battery drops out, a new one is fitted in and you drive away in 30-40 seconds without ever having left your car? Seems pretty terrific to me for a car with a 200 mile range.The price is a bit cringe-worthy though. -Curt From: Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord The electric car is a wonderful thing except for the battery. Some of the earliest cars were electric. When batteries are developed that hold the equivalent of 10-20 gal of liquid hydrocarbonsat comparable weight and volume and which can be recharged in a few minutes, then electric cars will reign supreme. Until then, not so much. I put battery in quotes because such a device will probably look nothing like the dissimilar metal/electrolyte devices used today. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 2:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: clay Subject: Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord But both the Edsel and Delorean are sought after collectable cars. I doubt any of the current crop of plug in greenie weenie cars will be much sought after. Not so sure todays kids will look back upon their time in a priapus the way kids did 40 years ago with a VW Bug. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jun 2, 2015, at 7:55 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Curt, All true, I did take a little artistic license on the Volt, but it is such a handy whipping boy when it comes to the whole green machine thing. Based on sales volume and public acceptance, it has been a stunning.. failure... Sort of like Edsel, or Delorian... grand idea, poor actual preformance and return on investment. Still, I take your point, and will however keep owning diesels. Grant... On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Grant, As much as I like picking on the greenie weenies I think you may have missed the fact that the volt is a series hybrid, it has a gas engine so it can keep going when the battery dies. Actually in being a series hybrid I like it, conceptually anyway, a lot more than a parallel hybrid like the pious Prius. The fact that it can cover some mileage on just batteries makes it better as a plugin option for city folk that don't drive much. On the whole I'll keep my Jetta. In fact Angie is pushing me to find another... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Date:Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:22 AM Subject:Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord And how far is that Starbucks? ;) Wilton snip Wilton, The nearest Starbucks to El Rancho Playa Fin Del Mundo is 92 miles, so if I owned a Chevy Volt, I would only have to walk the last 47 miles to buy that $9.00 latte`... Then of course, the tow bill to recover and recharge the Volt so I could drive it another 45 miles [with AC on full of course, since it was 107° here yesterday with ground temps measured at 138°] before abandoning it yet again. Hahaha.. Thanks just the same, I'll plug in my diesel. Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___
Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!
On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 08:39:32 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: it is a catheyesque fix and deserves a Cathey award! Thank you. As I understand it, now you have no 4 way flashers. Is that correct? My emergency lights work correctly. The same flasher is used for both the turn signals and the emergency lights. I always thought integrating the turn signals with the 4 way was a dumb solution, but I am sure it solves other problems, like feedback if both turn signals and 4 ways are put on at the same time. If you have a turn signal on and then turn on the emergency flasher switch, the other turn signal comes on in time with the original turn signal light. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord
The electric car is a wonderful thing except for the battery. Some of the earliest cars were electric. When batteries are developed that hold the equivalent of 10-20 gal of liquid hydrocarbonsat comparable weight and volume and which can be recharged in a few minutes, then electric cars will reign supreme. Until then, not so much. I put battery in quotes because such a device will probably look nothing like the dissimilar metal/electrolyte devices used today. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 2:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: clay Subject: Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord But both the Edsel and Delorean are sought after collectable cars. I doubt any of the current crop of plug in greenie weenie cars will be much sought after. Not so sure todays kids will look back upon their time in a priapus the way kids did 40 years ago with a VW Bug. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jun 2, 2015, at 7:55 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Curt, All true, I did take a little artistic license on the Volt, but it is such a handy whipping boy when it comes to the whole green machine thing. Based on sales volume and public acceptance, it has been a stunning.. failure... Sort of like Edsel, or Delorian... grand idea, poor actual preformance and return on investment. Still, I take your point, and will however keep owning diesels. Grant... On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Grant, As much as I like picking on the greenie weenies I think you may have missed the fact that the volt is a series hybrid, it has a gas engine so it can keep going when the battery dies. Actually in being a series hybrid I like it, conceptually anyway, a lot more than a parallel hybrid like the pious Prius. The fact that it can cover some mileage on just batteries makes it better as a plugin option for city folk that don't drive much. On the whole I'll keep my Jetta. In fact Angie is pushing me to find another... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Date:Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:22 AM Subject:Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord And how far is that Starbucks? ;) Wilton snip Wilton, The nearest Starbucks to El Rancho Playa Fin Del Mundo is 92 miles, so if I owned a Chevy Volt, I would only have to walk the last 47 miles to buy that $9.00 latte`... Then of course, the tow bill to recover and recharge the Volt so I could drive it another 45 miles [with AC on full of course, since it was 107° here yesterday with ground temps measured at 138°] before abandoning it yet again. Hahaha.. Thanks just the same, I'll plug in my diesel. Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!
Ahhh, good man! On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 2:22 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I do a pre-flight check when she goes out. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this
Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: JohnDeere 332 diesel Mower/Blade http://semo.craigslist.org/grd/5051856674.html And that's why he bought it? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Steering Wheel Shakes
Are your tires have a slipped belt? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2015, at 9:41 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Max, Your symptoms seem a lot like what I have been experiencing with my 95 E300D with 419,000 miles. Lower ball joints have been done as well a new shocks and damper. I had also changed the drives side tie rod. I probably need to change the other side as well as the idler arm rubber bush. Is there anything else I would need to replace? Bob Massmann Oregonia, Ohio 1995 E300D -Original Message- From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 2:30 PM To: Mercedes Cc: Meade Dillon Subject: [MBZ] 124 Steering Wheel Shakes '87 300TD, 124.193, 343k miles. Help me with some diagnosis ideas please. At highway speed, sometimes the steering wheel will shake, most of the time it will not. Today it would shake during a turn at highway speed, and turning left or right would make it shake. Occasionally, on the first acceleration to highway speed, once I get above 50 mph or so, it will shake while going straight, and then stop after 5 - 10 seconds. After a shaking episode, the car is fine for the rest of the day. A few weeks ago I had the car aligned. I've just installed a set of used tires on the front axle; these were the best two taken off my '95 sedan a couple weeks ago. Paid extra for Road Force balancing: http://www.gsp9700.com/search/findgsp9700.cfm Most of the front-end components are fairly new and either OE from MB or Rusty parts. Struts, lower control arm inner bushings, ball joints, idler arm bushings. I'm not sure about the steering damper. The wheel bearings were checked and packed with fresh grease about 7 years / 40k miles ago. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord
Not many people can afford 5 billion dollar car. What about the Teslas where you can drive into a replacement station, the old battery drops out, a new one is fitted in and you drive away in 30-40 seconds without ever having left your car? Seems pretty terrific to me for a car with a 200 mile range.The price is a bit cringe-worthy though. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!
On Tue, 2 Jun 2015 08:39:32 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: it is a catheyesque fix and deserves a Cathey award! Thank you. As I understand it, now you have no 4 way flashers. Is that correct? My emergency lights work correctly. The same flasher is used for both the turn signals and the emergency lights. I always thought integrating the turn signals with the 4 way was a dumb solution, but I am sure it solves other problems, like feedback if both turn signals and 4 ways are put on at the same time. If you have a turn signal on and then turn on the emergency flasher switch, the other turn signal comes on in time with the original turn signal light. Craig Well then you've earned a Cathey with Oak leaf clusters, as well as an Attaboy from Wilton! Way to go! Is the original flasher switch still used to turn on the 4 ways? I didn't see it in your pictures. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Steering Wheel Shakes
Bob, I haven't dug into my wagon's problem yet, I've been focusing on other problems with my '95 sedan. In my case, I think the new tires may be to blame, but I also plan to check ball joints and the idler arm bushing. Inner bushings on the control arm? I'm sceptical those would cause such a shake without also presenting many other problems. Wheel bearings out of adjustment? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On June 2, 2015 10:41:06 PM EDT, Robert Massmann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Max, Your symptoms seem a lot like what I have been experiencing with my 95 E300D with 419,000 miles. Lower ball joints have been done as well a new shocks and damper. I had also changed the drives side tie rod. I probably need to change the other side as well as the idler arm rubber bush. Is there anything else I would need to replace? Bob Massmann Oregonia, Ohio 1995 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Steering Wheel Shakes
Max, Your symptoms seem a lot like what I have been experiencing with my 95 E300D with 419,000 miles. Lower ball joints have been done as well a new shocks and damper. I had also changed the drives side tie rod. I probably need to change the other side as well as the idler arm rubber bush. Is there anything else I would need to replace? Bob Massmann Oregonia, Ohio 1995 E300D -Original Message- From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 2:30 PM To: Mercedes Cc: Meade Dillon Subject: [MBZ] 124 Steering Wheel Shakes '87 300TD, 124.193, 343k miles. Help me with some diagnosis ideas please. At highway speed, sometimes the steering wheel will shake, most of the time it will not. Today it would shake during a turn at highway speed, and turning left or right would make it shake. Occasionally, on the first acceleration to highway speed, once I get above 50 mph or so, it will shake while going straight, and then stop after 5 - 10 seconds. After a shaking episode, the car is fine for the rest of the day. A few weeks ago I had the car aligned. I've just installed a set of used tires on the front axle; these were the best two taken off my '95 sedan a couple weeks ago. Paid extra for Road Force balancing: http://www.gsp9700.com/search/findgsp9700.cfm Most of the front-end components are fairly new and either OE from MB or Rusty parts. Struts, lower control arm inner bushings, ball joints, idler arm bushings. I'm not sure about the steering damper. The wheel bearings were checked and packed with fresh grease about 7 years / 40k miles ago. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Steering Wheel Shakes
Max, Your symptoms seem a lot like what I have been experiencing with my 95 E300D with 419,000 miles. Lower ball joints have been done as well a new shocks and damper. I had also changed the drives side tie rod. I probably need to change the other side as well as the idler arm rubber bush. Is there anything else I would need to replace? Bob Massmann Oregonia, Ohio 1995 E300D what you named, the parts you have not replaced are suspect, along with the center link and upper ball joints. I'd check the steering idler bushing first. They are rarely checked and often bad. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!
The dang S430 has messed up sensors and decides that I have blown bulbs. I recently resoldered the lamp-out warning unit in the Napmobile. Cured its weird intermittent warning, which was actually an intermittent rear side marker light, _in_ the LOWU. Bad solder. Again. It wasn't the only one, but it was in the lead. You go, VDO! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!
They were in Yellowstone Park if I recall I was in Jackson WY, and the SDL was overheating. I used a coat hanger to bypass the thermostatic fan clutch. It helped. Got us home OK, anyway. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Power steering
THe 126 with PS seems more heavy to steer than any truck I ever drove without PS. THis is a design feature The SEL's steering is nearly impossible when the engine dies. Dreadful, death on a stick. Nothing at all like the light and pleasant steering of the manual W115. Or my old Falcon, for that matter. I used to joke that there was nothing power in the Falcon --- including the engine! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is Wrong With This Picture?
So do you bid on them when you go to pick some up? --R (sent from my miniPad) On Jun 2, 2015, at 4:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: +1 Dan On Jun 1, 2015, at 9:34 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Probably special cheap WalMart formulation. Their standard approach. Disclosure- I think Walmart is a good example of evil. Rant off. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord
Grant, As much as I like picking on the greenie weenies I think you may have missed the fact that the volt is a series hybrid, it has a gas engine so it can keep going when the battery dies. Actually in being a series hybrid I like it, conceptually anyway, a lot more than a parallel hybrid like the pious Prius. The fact that it can cover some mileage on just batteries makes it better as a plugin option for city folk that don't drive much. On the whole I'll keep my Jetta. In fact Angie is pushing me to find another... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Date:Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:22 AM Subject:Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord And how far is that Starbucks? ;) Wilton snip Wilton, The nearest Starbucks to El Rancho Playa Fin Del Mundo is 92 miles, so if I owned a Chevy Volt, I would only have to walk the last 47 miles to buy that $9.00 latte`... Then of course, the tow bill to recover and recharge the Volt so I could drive it another 45 miles [with AC on full of course, since it was 107° here yesterday with ground temps measured at 138°] before abandoning it yet again. Hahaha.. Thanks just the same, I'll plug in my diesel. Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord
And how far is that Starbucks? ;) Wilton snip Wilton, The nearest Starbucks to El Rancho Playa Fin Del Mundo is 92 miles, so if I owned a Chevy Volt, I would only have to walk the last 47 miles to buy that $9.00 latte`... Then of course, the tow bill to recover and recharge the Volt so I could drive it another 45 miles [with AC on full of course, since it was 107° here yesterday with ground temps measured at 138°] before abandoning it yet again. Hahaha.. Thanks just the same, I'll plug in my diesel. Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!
THat would qualify as a Cathey with oak leaves awards if you'd only used a salvaged flasher. As it is, it is a catheyesque fix and deserves a Cathey award! As I understand it, now you have no 4 way flashers. Is that correct? I always thought integrating the turn signals with the 4 way was a dumb solution, but I am sure it solves other problems, like feedback if both turn signals and 4 ways are put on at the same time. Having gotten tired of trying to drive in and from Albuquerque with intermittent flashers, I solved the problem this evening. I went to Pep Boys, bought a two terminal flasher, cut two of the socket pins out of my flakey MB flasher, spliced in some wire, and voilá! It works just fine. Cheap, too. Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: flasher.substitute.1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 76682 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20150601/3233e9f6/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: flasher.substitute.2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 179379 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20150601/3233e9f6/attachment-0001.jpg __ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Power steering
I can agree with fmiser. my 110s never had PS and never needed it. they are still the gold standard to me as far as steering goes. the 123 with PS is ok. THe 126 with PS seems more heavy to steer than any truck I ever drove without PS. THis is a design feature I love the light and agile steering of a non PS 110/111 Cant tell you anything about 115 with or without PS. fmiser sez: I disagree. I have driven hundreds of thousands of miles with plain steering - but it was never a power-assist system run without assist. In general, I prefer the feel of un-assisted steering. Low speed parking, especially backing a trailer, is a lot more effort. In my experience, when traveling faster than parking lot speeds it isn't really any more effort than power assist steering. This experience covers compact cars, full-sized cars, light duty trucks (pickup), heavy duty truck (class 5 and class 8), without a trailer, with a small trailer (less than 20 ft [7 m]), and with long trailers (up to 53 feet [16 m]}. So with a plain gearbox, I would not at all mind not having power assist steering on a W115. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord
And how far is that Starbucks? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 12:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord It's OK... there is plenty of safe clean electrical power on our perfect grid, which has zero defects from being left unattended for 50 yrs.. and that free power comes from clean nuculear plants which I never see, so it's clean.. If I throw away a few million watts of power because I'm to lazy to plug in my Green Electric Car.. it's no big thing.. I'm way to Green to have to worry about things like that.. Gotta run.. special at Starbucks on my favorite latte... On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 5:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, I think so - it might not be terribly heavy, but you have to have a receiving antenna/transformer coil in the car. My wirelessly charging electric toothbrush gets warm while on the charger - there are losses in this system that could be significant for the amount of current required to charge a car. On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 5:10 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: How dey gonna do dat? Lemme be quick to admit that my thoughts on the subject are stuck on my 1950's to '80's engineering training. Isn't the car gonna need a secondary transformer coil mounted on its underside, with it's weight to haul around ALL the time, or are there modern electronic devices that can do dat sans the weight (well, much less weight, anyway)? Wilton -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - GLOSSARY
Yep, thanks. How'd I miss that'un? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - GLOSSARY Fixin -- like fixin ta go ( apparently this referred to fixing up the horses and getting all their gear on) --R (sent from my miniPad) On Jun 1, 2015, at 10:51 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: GLOSSARY CONTINUED: D’mar -- tomorrow Droppin’ soda -- dropping sodium nitrate fertilizer, by each plant, usually, corn, by hand. Eatin’ pokey, rolls and grits. -- We are so poor, all we can do is poke our feet under the table, roll our eyes, and grit our teeth. Eite -- alright, OK, yes Ellem -- elm Enough money to burn a wet mule -- a lot of money, rich Fat lightard -- kindling; a pine knot or a pine tree stump with a high concentration of resin; often chopped and split into small pieces (splinters a few inches long) and used to start fires in fireplaces, heaters and wood-fired cook stoves. Fat n sassy -- feeling very good Feelin’ his oats -- feeling good Fahr -- fire Fetch -- to find, to look for ‘Fican and ‘Fican see my way to -- if I can ‘Fida -- if I had ‘Fida knowed it -- If I had known it Flat out -- full speed Flat out buffaloed -- completely fooled Flat out of luck -- really out of luck, unlucky Floorboard -- floor of a car or truck Flustrated -- frustrated Foot loose and fancy free -- without a worry Fly-by-night -- unreliable, untrustworthy Fly off the handle -- quick to anger ‘Fore light, ‘fore dark -- before dawn, before dusk Fox in the hen house -- conflict of interest Fret -- worry Funnies -- comic strips in the news paper Galavanting -- out having a good time; carousing Gangbuster or like gangbusters -- forceful, active, very effective Gee, Haw - signal for mule to turn right, turn left Get a hold of yourself. -- Calm down, relax, control yourself. Gimmie -- give me Git a holdt -- grasp firmly Git up; chk, chk (sound made in cheek by quick, short air intake) -- signal or command for mule to go forward Git -- get Gitcha, gotcha -- get you, got you Git! Scat! Skedaddle -- go quickly Git ‘er dander up -- upset her, make her mad Git ‘er done -- finish it Goin’ bare-footed -- wearing no shoes Goin’ like 60, goin’ like mad, goin’ like wildfire, really flyin’-- going very fast Goin’ ta town -- movin’ along expeditiously, movin’ right along Go to the pore house -- go home Gone to the dogs -- gone bad Gonna -- going to Gosh onlyest -- a very special only one, exceptional ‘Gotta git home ‘fore dark -- we don’t have “lights”; ‘gotta feed the chickens, cows, mules, etc. GreaGLOSSARY CONTINUED: D’mar -- tomorrow Droppin’ soda -- dropping sodium nitrate fertilizer, by each plant, usually, corn, by hand. Eatin’ pokey, rolls and grits. -- We are so poor, all we can do is poke our feet under the table, roll our eyes, and grit our teeth. Eite -- alright, OK, yes Ellem -- elm Enough money to burn a wet mule -- a lot of money, rich Fat lightard -- kindling; a pine knot or a pine tree stump with a high concentration of resin; often chopped and split into small pieces (splinters a few inches long) and used to start fires in fireplaces, heaters and wood-fired cook stoves. Fat n sassy -- feeling very good Feelin’ his oats -- feeling good Fahr -- fire Fetch -- to find, to look for ‘Fican and ‘Fican see my way to -- if I can ‘Fida -- if I had ‘Fida knowed it -- If I had known it Flat out -- full speed Flat out buffaloed -- completely fooled Flat out of luck -- really out of luck, unlucky Floorboard -- floor of a car or truck Flustrated -- frustrated Foot loose and fancy free -- without a worry Fly-by-night -- unreliable, untrustworthy Fly off the handle -- quick to anger ‘Fore light, ‘fore dark -- before dawn, before dusk Fox in the hen house -- conflict of interest Fret -- worry Funnies -- comic strips in the news paper Galavanting -- out having a good time; carousing Gangbuster or like gangbusters -- forceful, active, very effective Gee, Haw - signal for mule to turn right, turn left Get a hold of yourself. -- Calm down, relax, control yourself. Gimmie -- give me Git a holdt -- grasp firmly Git up; chk, chk (sound made in cheek by quick, short air intake) -- signal or command for mule to go forward Git -- get Gitcha, gotcha -- get you, got you Git! Scat! Skedaddle -- go quickly Git ‘er dander up -- upset her, make her mad Git ‘er done -- finish it Goin’ bare-footed -- wearing no shoes Goin’ like 60, goin’ like mad, goin’ like wildfire, really flyin’-- going very fast Goin’ ta town -- movin’ along expeditiously, movin’ right along Go to the pore house -- go home Gone to the dogs -- gone bad Gonna -- going to Gosh onlyest -- a very special only one, exceptional ‘Gotta git home ‘fore dark -- we don’t have “lights”; ‘gotta feed the chickens,
Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!
And got a bonus ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Craig diese...@pisquared.net Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 9:55 PM Subject: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!! Having gotten tired of trying to drive in and from Albuquerque with intermittent flashers, I solved the problem this evening. I went to Pep Boys, bought a two terminal flasher, cut two of the socket pins out of my flakey MB flasher, spliced in some wire, and voilá! It works just fine. Cheap, too. Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: flasher.substitute.1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 76682 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20150601/3233e9f6/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: flasher.substitute.2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 179379 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20150601/3233e9f6/attachment-0001.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord
Don't forget all the nice clean electricity created by nice coal fired plants. RB On 01/06/2015 11:57 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: It's OK... there is plenty of safe clean electrical power on our perfect grid, which has zero defects from being left unattended for 50 yrs.. and that free power comes from clean nuculear plants which I never see, so it's clean.. If I throw away a few million watts of power because I'm to lazy to plug in my Green Electric Car.. it's no big thing.. I'm way to Green to have to worry about things like that.. Gotta run.. special at Starbucks on my favorite latte... On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 5:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, I think so - it might not be terribly heavy, but you have to have a receiving antenna/transformer coil in the car. My wirelessly charging electric toothbrush gets warm while on the charger - there are losses in this system that could be significant for the amount of current required to charge a car. On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 5:10 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: How dey gonna do dat? Lemme be quick to admit that my thoughts on the subject are stuck on my 1950's to '80's engineering training. Isn't the car gonna need a secondary transformer coil mounted on its underside, with it's weight to haul around ALL the time, or are there modern electronic devices that can do dat sans the weight (well, much less weight, anyway)? Wilton -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord
Curt, All true, I did take a little artistic license on the Volt, but it is such a handy whipping boy when it comes to the whole green machine thing. Based on sales volume and public acceptance, it has been a stunning.. failure... Sort of like Edsel, or Delorian... grand idea, poor actual preformance and return on investment. Still, I take your point, and will however keep owning diesels. Grant... On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Grant, As much as I like picking on the greenie weenies I think you may have missed the fact that the volt is a series hybrid, it has a gas engine so it can keep going when the battery dies. Actually in being a series hybrid I like it, conceptually anyway, a lot more than a parallel hybrid like the pious Prius. The fact that it can cover some mileage on just batteries makes it better as a plugin option for city folk that don't drive much. On the whole I'll keep my Jetta. In fact Angie is pushing me to find another... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Date:Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:22 AM Subject:Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord And how far is that Starbucks? ;) Wilton snip Wilton, The nearest Starbucks to El Rancho Playa Fin Del Mundo is 92 miles, so if I owned a Chevy Volt, I would only have to walk the last 47 miles to buy that $9.00 latte`... Then of course, the tow bill to recover and recharge the Volt so I could drive it another 45 miles [with AC on full of course, since it was 107° here yesterday with ground temps measured at 138°] before abandoning it yet again. Hahaha.. Thanks just the same, I'll plug in my diesel. Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord
Its too bad, the Volt is a pretty good idea. With a small diesel engine I think it could handily whip the Prius in a mileage competition. The problem overall is that its a crappy little Chevy for big money... -Curt From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord Curt, All true, I did take a little artistic license on the Volt, but it is such a handy whipping boy when it comes to the whole green machine thing. Based on sales volume and public acceptance, it has been a stunning.. failure... Sort of like Edsel, or Delorian... grand idea, poor actual preformance and return on investment. Still, I take your point, and will however keep owning diesels. Grant... On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Grant, As much as I like picking on the greenie weenies I think you may have missed the fact that the volt is a series hybrid, it has a gas engine so it can keep going when the battery dies. Actually in being a series hybrid I like it, conceptually anyway, a lot more than a parallel hybrid like the pious Prius. The fact that it can cover some mileage on just batteries makes it better as a plugin option for city folk that don't drive much. On the whole I'll keep my Jetta. In fact Angie is pushing me to find another... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Date:Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:22 AM Subject:Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord And how far is that Starbucks? ;) Wilton snip Wilton, The nearest Starbucks to El Rancho Playa Fin Del Mundo is 92 miles, so if I owned a Chevy Volt, I would only have to walk the last 47 miles to buy that $9.00 latte`... Then of course, the tow bill to recover and recharge the Volt so I could drive it another 45 miles [with AC on full of course, since it was 107° here yesterday with ground temps measured at 138°] before abandoning it yet again. Hahaha.. Thanks just the same, I'll plug in my diesel. Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is Wrong With This Picture?
I expect some marketing firm is capitalizing. Barrett-Jackson got paid some big chunk of cash, the other company takes the actual proceeds.Bad idea in the end I think, it'll water down their brand. -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is Wrong With This Picture? On 01/06/2015 8:34 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: Probably special cheap WalMart formulation. Their standard approach. Disclosure- I think Walmart is a good example of evil. Rant off. ___ Don't blame WalMart. Barrett-Jackson is just trying to capitalize on the name. Look at all the junk out there with the NASCAR label. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is Wrong With This Picture?
On 01/06/2015 8:34 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: Probably special cheap WalMart formulation. Their standard approach. Disclosure- I think Walmart is a good example of evil. Rant off. ___ Don't blame WalMart. Barrett-Jackson is just trying to capitalize on the name. Look at all the junk out there with the NASCAR label. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Power steering
On 01/06/2015 6:44 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: The point has been made that power steering doesn't do much at speed. I say take the pump out of the belt circuit, as an Experiment, and see how it drives. I suspect that once you get over 15 mph, you'll never know it is missing. The NASCAR cars all have power steering. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!
Sounds a bit like a former neighbor of mine. He had a diesel Jetta that was trying to overheat while he and his family were on holidays in the USA. He determined that the electric fan was not coming on but that the fan motor worked. If I recall, there was a problem with a relay. They were in Yellowstone Park if I recall and there was not much available locally but he found a length of household electrical wire and a household light switch and rigged it up so that he could turn on the fan from inside the car, manually. It got him home so that he could fix it properly. RB On 01/06/2015 8:55 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: Having gotten tired of trying to drive in and from Albuquerque with intermittent flashers, I solved the problem this evening. I went to Pep Boys, bought a two terminal flasher, cut two of the socket pins out of my flakey MB flasher, spliced in some wire, and voilá! It works just fine. Cheap, too. Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: flasher.substitute.1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 76682 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20150601/3233e9f6/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: flasher.substitute.2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 179379 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20150601/3233e9f6/attachment-0001.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Power steering
Really? I thought they even had total-loss electrics. I expect using power steering keeps the ratio low and is maybe important with those super wide tires. -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Power steering On 01/06/2015 6:44 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: The point has been made that power steering doesn't do much at speed. I say take the pump out of the belt circuit, as an Experiment, and see how it drives. I suspect that once you get over 15 mph, you'll never know it is missing. The NASCAR cars all have power steering. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord
Coal is the most underutilized resource in this country The elektrojuicity I like best is hydro Second best is solar, but it is impractical on a large scale. Great for life off the grid THird is coal. Relatively inexpensive, clean, as you say, and abundant An added benefit from old coal plants was that they provided sulfur to the soil as a plant nutrient. Now farms have to add sulfur to the normal NPK so fertilizer is becoming NPKS. I had to add sulfur to the garden this year as the last few years I could grow much of anything. Depleted sulfur and high pH together meant no food. If those small nuke plants ever become reality, that could move up the list. The problem with nuke now is that they are very large, and very expensive to build, and operate, and contribute to terrorist concerns. No terrorist ever tried to steal the clinkers form a coal plant. Don't forget all the nice clean electricity created by nice coal fired plants. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord
If I live in my city apartment, never walk on dirt, only take a subway [electric of course] to work, and march in Green Earth Day Parade I don't have to acknowledge those nasty things exist... unless I'm carrying the protest sign that day.. Go Green, Be Clean... you know.. Reality is so harsh.. it's so much easier to just ignore and avoid it... Grant... ;)) On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Don't forget all the nice clean electricity created by nice coal fired plants. RB On 01/06/2015 11:57 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: It's OK... there is plenty of safe clean electrical power on our perfect grid, which has zero defects from being left unattended for 50 yrs.. and that free power comes from clean nuculear plants which I never see, so it's clean.. If I throw away a few million watts of power because I'm to lazy to plug in my Green Electric Car.. it's no big thing.. I'm way to Green to have to worry about things like that.. Gotta run.. special at Starbucks on my favorite latte... On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 5:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, I think so - it might not be terribly heavy, but you have to have a receiving antenna/transformer coil in the car. My wirelessly charging electric toothbrush gets warm while on the charger - there are losses in this system that could be significant for the amount of current required to charge a car. On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 5:10 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: How dey gonna do dat? Lemme be quick to admit that my thoughts on the subject are stuck on my 1950's to '80's engineering training. Isn't the car gonna need a secondary transformer coil mounted on its underside, with it's weight to haul around ALL the time, or are there modern electronic devices that can do dat sans the weight (well, much less weight, anyway)? Wilton -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord
Coal is hardly relatively...clean. Where do you get such a wacky notion? And inexpensive only if you value clean air, water, and lung health at zero dollars. Nuclear is only clean if you discount the environmental effects of mining and the carbon footprint of the U3O8 enrichment plants, and ignore the fact that there is no long term solution in sight on where/how to handle the waste. Geothermal, wind, and solar are the cleanest by far. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Coal is the most underutilized resource in this country The elektrojuicity I like best is hydro Second best is solar, but it is impractical on a large scale. Great for life off the grid THird is coal. Relatively inexpensive, clean, as you say, and abundant An added benefit from old coal plants was that they provided sulfur to the soil as a plant nutrient. Now farms have to add sulfur to the normal NPK so fertilizer is becoming NPKS. I had to add sulfur to the garden this year as the last few years I could grow much of anything. Depleted sulfur and high pH together meant no food. If those small nuke plants ever become reality, that could move up the list. The problem with nuke now is that they are very large, and very expensive to build, and operate, and contribute to terrorist concerns. No terrorist ever tried to steal the clinkers form a coal plant. Don't forget all the nice clean electricity created by nice coal fired plants. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord
I was gonna guess 50 mi. - thinking too small. ;) Having not flown across that area in several years and not driven across it in 40+, it's easy to forget. Wilton - Original Message - From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord And how far is that Starbucks? ;) Wilton snip Wilton, The nearest Starbucks to El Rancho Playa Fin Del Mundo is 92 miles, so if I owned a Chevy Volt, I would only have to walk the last 47 miles to buy that $9.00 latte`... Then of course, the tow bill to recover and recharge the Volt so I could drive it another 45 miles [with AC on full of course, since it was 107° here yesterday with ground temps measured at 138°] before abandoning it yet again. Hahaha.. Thanks just the same, I'll plug in my diesel. Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord
And get another ATTABOY. Wilton - Original Message - From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord Curt, All true, I did take a little artistic license on the Volt, but it is such a handy whipping boy when it comes to the whole green machine thing. Based on sales volume and public acceptance, it has been a stunning.. failure... Sort of like Edsel, or Delorian... grand idea, poor actual preformance and return on investment. Still, I take your point, and will however keep owning diesels. Grant... On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Grant, As much as I like picking on the greenie weenies I think you may have missed the fact that the volt is a series hybrid, it has a gas engine so it can keep going when the battery dies. Actually in being a series hybrid I like it, conceptually anyway, a lot more than a parallel hybrid like the pious Prius. The fact that it can cover some mileage on just batteries makes it better as a plugin option for city folk that don't drive much. On the whole I'll keep my Jetta. In fact Angie is pushing me to find another... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Date:Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:22 AM Subject:Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord And how far is that Starbucks? ;) Wilton snip Wilton, The nearest Starbucks to El Rancho Playa Fin Del Mundo is 92 miles, so if I owned a Chevy Volt, I would only have to walk the last 47 miles to buy that $9.00 latte`... Then of course, the tow bill to recover and recharge the Volt so I could drive it another 45 miles [with AC on full of course, since it was 107° here yesterday with ground temps measured at 138°] before abandoning it yet again. Hahaha.. Thanks just the same, I'll plug in my diesel. Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!!
Pass an ATTABOY to 'im, eh? Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] There! I fixed it!!! Sounds a bit like a former neighbor of mine. He had a diesel Jetta that was trying to overheat while he and his family were on holidays in the USA. He determined that the electric fan was not coming on but that the fan motor worked. If I recall, there was a problem with a relay. They were in Yellowstone Park if I recall and there was not much available locally but he found a length of household electrical wire and a household light switch and rigged it up so that he could turn on the fan from inside the car, manually. It got him home so that he could fix it properly. RB On 01/06/2015 8:55 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: Having gotten tired of trying to drive in and from Albuquerque with intermittent flashers, I solved the problem this evening. I went to Pep Boys, bought a two terminal flasher, cut two of the socket pins out of my flakey MB flasher, spliced in some wire, and voilá! It works just fine. Cheap, too. Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: flasher.substitute.1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 76682 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20150601/3233e9f6/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: flasher.substitute.2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 179379 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20150601/3233e9f6/attachment-0001.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord
I was gonna guess 50 mi. - thinking too small. ;) Having not flown across that area in several years and not driven across it in 40+, it's easy to forget. Wilton That is big country, and John Cannon is a Big man ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is Wrong With This Picture?
Randy wrote: Don't blame WalMart. Barrett-Jackson is just trying to capitalize on the name. Look at all the junk out there with the NASCAR label. Curt wrote: I expect some marketing firm is capitalizing. Barrett-Jackson got paid some big chunk of cash, the other company takes the actual proceeds.Bad idea in the end I think, it'll water down their brand. Probably. I'll bet it will help sales for this quarter. And are there any public companies left that look any further to the future than next quarter? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Power steering
I would say that my 115 300D requires more effort than most vehicles that I have driven with power steering. My W115 200D drives great with manual steering. Yes, it's a bit harder in a parking lot. But _other_ than that, you don't even notice. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EV Charging sans a cord
If there's even a 10% loss of efficiency by going cordless, it would be criminal to adopt this. There's too much energy 'in play' when talking about the national EV fleet. I'm sure this is relatively high frequency, compared to the 60Hz grid. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
