Re: [MBZ] 1985 300D - Intermittent glow light while driving
Horn issue sounds like a ground problem. Glow plug issue may be the diagnostics in the relay telling you that the system has a problem (usually one or two burned out glow plugs, but maybe related to the horn issue). -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300D - Intermittent glow light while driving
Bad ground somewhere? Check the connection between engine and body. --R On 6/25/15 8:17 AM, Mike Esh via Mercedes wrote: Last night while driving home my glow light flickered on and off several times and then on my way to work this morning it came on several times while driving. At one point it stayed on solidly for more than a minute. Then it flickered a few more times and went out and did not come back the rest of the drive. I am concerned the glow plugs are coming on when not needed and will eventually burn themselves out. In addition to this issue the horn is only working intermittently and when I try to activate the horn (with the key on and the car not running)the dash lights dim as if it is trying to work. The only work I have done recently was to replace rear calipers, change out one heater to block hose and spray the underside of the car with undercoating. I checked and rotated all fuzes. All looked good. Any thoughts on what to look for? Thanks, Mike Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com (C) 231.894.5505 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300D - Intermittent glow light while driving
Yes, glow relay is a signal, but I can't remember what. check/change GPs and the relay should be normal, unless it is a signal that the relay is failing. Horn issue sounds like a ground problem. Glow plug issue may be the diagnostics in the relay telling you that the system has a problem (usually one or two burned out glow plugs, but maybe related to the horn issue). -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1985 300D - Intermittent glow light while driving
Last night while driving home my glow light flickered on and off several times and then on my way to work this morning it came on several times while driving. At one point it stayed on solidly for more than a minute. Then it flickered a few more times and went out and did not come back the rest of the drive. I am concerned the glow plugs are coming on when not needed and will eventually burn themselves out. In addition to this issue the horn is only working intermittently and when I try to activate the horn (with the key on and the car not running)the dash lights dim as if it is trying to work. The only work I have done recently was to replace rear calipers, change out one heater to block hose and spray the underside of the car with undercoating. I checked and rotated all fuzes. All looked good. Any thoughts on what to look for? Thanks, Mike Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com (C) 231.894.5505 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is whack
AND it is really ugly. I don't care for the styling of the exterior or the dash. I guess I am getting old. This one was built for wealthy young asian guys. RB On 25/06/2015 1:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: It was purchased with funny munny. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 7 yo car, looks to be in nice condition, 30% of initial price. Wow. https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5085216725.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] crack AND meth
You can see the rust among other things. RB On 25/06/2015 1:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: It looks in better than fair condition. Would have been nice to explain exactly what this means and to list everything that ISN'T perfect. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5090731431.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is whack
AND it is really ugly. I don't care for the styling of the exterior or the dash. I guess I am getting old. This one was built for wealthy young asian guys. RB On 25/06/2015 1:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: It was purchased with funny munny. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 7 yo car, looks to be in nice condition, 30% of initial price. Wow. https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5085216725.html Looks like a bug someone stepped on... and black. To quote the immortal words of Wilton, hafta let it go! I'm with Randy. fugly car. I like the cars of the 60s through the end of the 124 and 126 chassis, before the bowtie guys took over and started hanging unreliable outdatable electronics crap all over. (Sorry Jaime, I know you do some whizbang things, but I kinda like the simplicity of the 110 and 123.) Same with BMW Kraftrad. I love all the old ones up through the /7. The R 9T is interesting, but not as pure as the older ones. The /2 with earles forks are works of art. I may need to move to central MS and hang out with Vetch and learn the tricks of sourcing and restoring /2 and /5/6/7 BMW Kraftrad. Either that or I wanna restore tractors. clean and simple. The design of tractors in the 30s (and sold into the 50s) was clean and simple, so you don't scare away horse farmers. Once nobody farmed with horses anymore (60s) tractors became much more complex and busy designs. Now JD and Ag Leader kick apple and foogle's butts on the self driving front. JD has had self driving tractors out for 20 years. Ag leader about as long, and Kinze is the new kid on the block. The letter model JD and IH tractors are fun. The other brands from that era are ok too. Fergie and AC had some innovative things. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300D - Intermittent glow light while driving
There are only a few ground clusters, it's well worth the time to disassemble, clean, and reassemble them. Many weird things can be cured that way. Also check and possibly clean contacts in the fuse box; check/clean/replace fuses. The horn doesn't have a relay, it's a circuit that's as simple as it can get. Either the power feed (fuse) side is weak, or the ground is. The GP relay is fairly stupid in that vintage, so if it's coming on it's either sick inside, or the key signal to it is flickering. (That can be the ignition switch.) It doesn't have much of an agenda. And of course, don't forget the 'mother lode': the battery and its connectors. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] crack AND meth
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5090731431.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] crack AND meth
It looks in better than fair condition. Would have been nice to explain exactly what this means and to list everything that ISN'T perfect. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5090731431.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] This is whack
7 yo car, looks to be in nice condition, 30% of initial price. Wow. https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5085216725.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is whack
It was purchased with funny munny. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 7 yo car, looks to be in nice condition, 30% of initial price. Wow. https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5085216725.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is whack
Yes I agree. I tend to think the 140 is under appreciated as well. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 25, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If there was one thing about my W220 that’s a negative (in my mind) it’s the styling. It’s a wonderful car and has all sorts of very nice goodies, very good to drive, etc., but in a parking lot it looks like every other car. I think the real distinctive MB design ended with the W140 as a far as sedans go. Dan On Jun 25, 2015, at 5:32 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have not kept track of things closely enough so I might be wrong on this but it appears to me that MB is now copying asian designs. A few years back it was the other way around. A friend has a nice 2000 Lexus sedan that on first glance makes me think Mercedes. Now, when I see a new Mercedes, I think, Hyundai until I can see the star. The new Mercedes do not look classy to me. I do suppose they are trying to appeal to a younger group than me. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is whack
Agreed but I also like the looks of the w211. On Jun 25, 2015 6:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes I agree. I tend to think the 140 is under appreciated as well. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 25, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If there was one thing about my W220 that’s a negative (in my mind) it’s the styling. It’s a wonderful car and has all sorts of very nice goodies, very good to drive, etc., but in a parking lot it looks like every other car. I think the real distinctive MB design ended with the W140 as a far as sedans go. Dan On Jun 25, 2015, at 5:32 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have not kept track of things closely enough so I might be wrong on this but it appears to me that MB is now copying asian designs. A few years back it was the other way around. A friend has a nice 2000 Lexus sedan that on first glance makes me think Mercedes. Now, when I see a new Mercedes, I think, Hyundai until I can see the star. The new Mercedes do not look classy to me. I do suppose they are trying to appeal to a younger group than me. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is whack
Beauty is in the eye... I can't stand a 140, looks like an overweight 124, only worse. The 220 looks like it has heft, but doesn't look fat. Amazon warrior vs. Opera Fat Lady. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT my friend Bill
I am not posting this expecting any sort of response, none really needed or wanted. I just wanted to share this interview of my friend Bill after the shootings here last week. Sometimes he's a little over the top but generally speaks the truth as he sees it, which is sometimes not what I see or agree with but I respect it. He has been through a lot around here since the 50s. He served in Korea and was wounded just a few days before Christmas, and still has PTSD over that experience that comes out around the holidays. But he is strong and works through it. He is indeed a troublemaker, of the good kind, and has given me a lot of inspiration in fighting a lot of what the local gummint idiots (and SC has a considerable supply) are trying to do. He has made me rethink a lot of what I knew and challenged a lot of thinking, and shared a lot of local lore that should be in history books but probably never will be, most of which is A Very Good Thing. Still fighting the good fight at 80, which is in itself inspiring. http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/21/us/charleston-shooting-race-wounds-exposed/index.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is whack
Don't know if they were any good but I liked the look of the 210. Friends had an E430 4matic and it was a beautiful car. RB On 25/06/2015 5:52 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Beauty is in the eye... I can't stand a 140, looks like an overweight 124, only worse. The 220 looks like it has heft, but doesn't look fat. Amazon warrior vs. Opera Fat Lady. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 __ To me a 140 looks like an overweight 124. Always has. A 124 looks tiny beside a 123, and it reminds me of driving my Karmann Ghia, sitting sideways with your feet crammed into a tiny hole between the wheelwell and the tunnel. Straight on from the rear a 140 looks like a baby Benz. From the front and side a 140 looks like any other asian car. RE: the aerodynamic arguments: I call BS on the idea that because of cafe and fuel economy all cars have to look the same. Two of the slickest cars ever: VW beetle, and the Cord. Both from the 30s. Neither look like the current load of carp. The SS and SSK, 540K, 300SL and even the lowly 190SL were not far from the slickest cars ever. Even the adenauer was slick. None of them look like the current load of crap (or carp, whichever you prefer) cars. There is however the chicken and egg argument. most asian cars copy everything MB does, and even beat MB to the market with new designs. It is hard to argue that. The asian manufacturing is much more agile than ameroEuro manufacturing. Dr. Deming taught them well. They have been at it for 70 years, while the US has only been using agile manufacturing 20 years, and it is slower catching on in Yurp. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is whack
I have not kept track of things closely enough so I might be wrong on this but it appears to me that MB is now copying asian designs. A few years back it was the other way around. A friend has a nice 2000 Lexus sedan that on first glance makes me think Mercedes. Now, when I see a new Mercedes, I think, Hyundai until I can see the star. The new Mercedes do not look classy to me. I do suppose they are trying to appeal to a younger group than me. RB On 25/06/2015 4:16 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: AND it is really ugly. I don't care for the styling of the exterior or the dash. I guess I am getting old. This one was built for wealthy young asian guys. RB On 25/06/2015 1:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: It was purchased with funny munny. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 7 yo car, looks to be in nice condition, 30% of initial price. Wow. https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5085216725.html Looks like a bug someone stepped on... and black. To quote the immortal words of Wilton, hafta let it go! I'm with Randy. fugly car. I like the cars of the 60s through the end of the 124 and 126 chassis, before the bowtie guys took over and started hanging unreliable outdatable electronics crap all over. (Sorry Jaime, I know you do some whizbang things, but I kinda like the simplicity of the 110 and 123.) Same with BMW Kraftrad. I love all the old ones up through the /7. The R 9T is interesting, but not as pure as the older ones. The /2 with earles forks are works of art. I may need to move to central MS and hang out with Vetch and learn the tricks of sourcing and restoring /2 and /5/6/7 BMW Kraftrad. Either that or I wanna restore tractors. clean and simple. The design of tractors in the 30s (and sold into the 50s) was clean and simple, so you don't scare away horse farmers. Once nobody farmed with horses anymore (60s) tractors became much more complex and busy designs. Now JD and Ag Leader kick apple and foogle's butts on the self driving front. JD has had self driving tractors out for 20 years. Ag leader about as long, and Kinze is the new kid on the block. The letter model JD and IH tractors are fun. The other brands from that era are ok too. Fergie and AC had some innovative things. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is whack
If there was one thing about my W220 that’s a negative (in my mind) it’s the styling. It’s a wonderful car and has all sorts of very nice goodies, very good to drive, etc., but in a parking lot it looks like every other car. I think the real distinctive MB design ended with the W140 as a far as sedans go. Dan On Jun 25, 2015, at 5:32 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have not kept track of things closely enough so I might be wrong on this but it appears to me that MB is now copying asian designs. A few years back it was the other way around. A friend has a nice 2000 Lexus sedan that on first glance makes me think Mercedes. Now, when I see a new Mercedes, I think, Hyundai until I can see the star. The new Mercedes do not look classy to me. I do suppose they are trying to appeal to a younger group than me. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is whack
Aerodynamics and fuel economy standards drive a lot of the design and shape and openings and such. It seems there is not a lot of latitude for designers when every maker is trying to get low drag. And the Asians are fairly adept at copying stuff so that their next iterations look a lot like the next iterations of whatever was copied, or vice-versa. I saw something a coupla days ago that looked like the older E-class then when I got closer it was a Lexus or Hyundai or something. It's like they bought the tooling for the lights and trunk and rear end and just built their own car. I am waiting for the new Kia Dymaxion! --R On 6/25/15 5:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: If there was one thing about my W220 that’s a negative (in my mind) it’s the styling. It’s a wonderful car and has all sorts of very nice goodies, very good to drive, etc., but in a parking lot it looks like every other car. I think the real distinctive MB design ended with the W140 as a far as sedans go. Dan On Jun 25, 2015, at 5:32 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have not kept track of things closely enough so I might be wrong on this but it appears to me that MB is now copying asian designs. A few years back it was the other way around. A friend has a nice 2000 Lexus sedan that on first glance makes me think Mercedes. Now, when I see a new Mercedes, I think, Hyundai until I can see the star. The new Mercedes do not look classy to me. I do suppose they are trying to appeal to a younger group than me. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crack or Whack?
At first glance I thought you said crack whore, but maybe that applies also Sent from my iPhone On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I know these command high dollar these days, but…. http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5092579872.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Crack or Whack?
I know these command high dollar these days, but…. http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5092579872.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is whack
Yes they are decent cars Sent from my iPhone On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:12 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Don't know if they were any good but I liked the look of the 210. Friends had an E430 4matic and it was a beautiful car. RB On 25/06/2015 5:52 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Beauty is in the eye... I can't stand a 140, looks like an overweight 124, only worse. The 220 looks like it has heft, but doesn't look fat. Amazon warrior vs. Opera Fat Lady. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 __ To me a 140 looks like an overweight 124. Always has. A 124 looks tiny beside a 123, and it reminds me of driving my Karmann Ghia, sitting sideways with your feet crammed into a tiny hole between the wheelwell and the tunnel. Straight on from the rear a 140 looks like a baby Benz. From the front and side a 140 looks like any other asian car. RE: the aerodynamic arguments: I call BS on the idea that because of cafe and fuel economy all cars have to look the same. Two of the slickest cars ever: VW beetle, and the Cord. Both from the 30s. Neither look like the current load of carp. The SS and SSK, 540K, 300SL and even the lowly 190SL were not far from the slickest cars ever. Even the adenauer was slick. None of them look like the current load of crap (or carp, whichever you prefer) cars. There is however the chicken and egg argument. most asian cars copy everything MB does, and even beat MB to the market with new designs. It is hard to argue that. The asian manufacturing is much more agile than ameroEuro manufacturing. Dr. Deming taught them well. They have been at it for 70 years, while the US has only been using agile manufacturing 20 years, and it is slower catching on in Yurp. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is whack
Beauty is in the eye... I can't stand a 140, looks like an overweight 124, only worse. The 220 looks like it has heft, but doesn't look fat. Amazon warrior vs. Opera Fat Lady. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 __ To me a 140 looks like an overweight 124. Always has. A 124 looks tiny beside a 123, and it reminds me of driving my Karmann Ghia, sitting sideways with your feet crammed into a tiny hole between the wheelwell and the tunnel. Straight on from the rear a 140 looks like a baby Benz. From the front and side a 140 looks like any other asian car. RE: the aerodynamic arguments: I call BS on the idea that because of cafe and fuel economy all cars have to look the same. Two of the slickest cars ever: VW beetle, and the Cord. Both from the 30s. Neither look like the current load of carp. The SS and SSK, 540K, 300SL and even the lowly 190SL were not far from the slickest cars ever. Even the adenauer was slick. None of them look like the current load of crap (or carp, whichever you prefer) cars. There is however the chicken and egg argument. most asian cars copy everything MB does, and even beat MB to the market with new designs. It is hard to argue that. The asian manufacturing is much more agile than ameroEuro manufacturing. Dr. Deming taught them well. They have been at it for 70 years, while the US has only been using agile manufacturing 20 years, and it is slower catching on in Yurp. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] crack AND meth
Oh now I see a nasty little smirch of rust. The rear shelf is also faded. I bet it smells oogy. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You can see the rust among other things. RB On 25/06/2015 1:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: It looks in better than fair condition. Would have been nice to explain exactly what this means and to list everything that ISN'T perfect. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5090731431.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 swimming pool
Yes, check every where. Especially the S/R drains. Is it wet at all in the front? On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ok, it is not really that bad, but in the recent torrential downpours, I am getting water in the driver side rear footwell. I don't remember getting that before, but maybe it did happen. The car was stored inside for years. Anyhow, the car has a new windshield and gasket, so I don't think it is the front windshield. I'll likely try to see if I can get the sunroof open and check clean drains. It could also be a leak from the rear glass. I had that in my 110 for years. the first time it was from the trunk hinge drains. on the second 110 it was the rear glass gasket. Anyone BTDT? is the sunroof the right place to look? Or should I try clearing the trunk hinge drains first? Been avoiding the sunroof because I don't want any of the fiddly parts to break and cause a great cash outlay. It probably has not opened for 10 yrs. Thank'e all 1981 240D 123 failing slushbox ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 123 swimming pool
Ok, it is not really that bad, but in the recent torrential downpours, I am getting water in the driver side rear footwell. I don't remember getting that before, but maybe it did happen. The car was stored inside for years. Anyhow, the car has a new windshield and gasket, so I don't think it is the front windshield. I'll likely try to see if I can get the sunroof open and check clean drains. It could also be a leak from the rear glass. I had that in my 110 for years. the first time it was from the trunk hinge drains. on the second 110 it was the rear glass gasket. Anyone BTDT? is the sunroof the right place to look? Or should I try clearing the trunk hinge drains first? Been avoiding the sunroof because I don't want any of the fiddly parts to break and cause a great cash outlay. It probably has not opened for 10 yrs. Thank'e all 1981 240D 123 failing slushbox ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crack or Whack?
Is it a W111? On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 8:40 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Drool worthy none the less. On Jun 25, 2015 7:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I know these command high dollar these days, but…. http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5092579872.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 swimming pool
Front is dry. Before the new windshield and gasket, it peed on your left leg while driving in rain. Yes, check every where. Especially the S/R drains. Is it wet at all in the front? On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ok, it is not really that bad, but in the recent torrential downpours, I am getting water in the driver side rear footwell. I don't remember getting that before, but maybe it did happen. The car was stored inside for years. Anyhow, the car has a new windshield and gasket, so I don't think it is the front windshield. I'll likely try to see if I can get the sunroof open and check clean drains. It could also be a leak from the rear glass. I had that in my 110 for years. the first time it was from the trunk hinge drains. on the second 110 it was the rear glass gasket. Anyone BTDT? is the sunroof the right place to look? Or should I try clearing the trunk hinge drains first? Been avoiding the sunroof because I don't want any of the fiddly parts to break and cause a great cash outlay. It probably has not opened for 10 yrs. Thank'e all 1981 240D 123 failing slushbox ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My shaky front end is FIXED on my 95 E300D
Haven't work on the back but I think it must be done as every time I go over sharp bumps, I get knock sounds from something in the back. It has been a bit annoying lately. There are a lot of linkages back there. I ended up with a very nice ride this afternoon after taking my car in for an alignment. I haven't found any shops here that have the special equipment so I took it to the dealer. I had a 50 dollar service coupon so it won't be to bad. But they had to give me a loaner car for the night a brand new C300 4matic. It only has 2600 miles on it. What a nice ride, quite a change from my 20 year old E300. I had to get some tutoring before I left for general operation of the vehicle. Bob Massmann Oregonia, Ohio 1995 E300D 420K miles -Original Message- From: Max Dillon via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:38 PM To: Mitch Haley ; Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Max Dillon Subject: Re: [MBZ] My shaky front end is FIXED on my 95 E300D That sounds like me. Had to replace vacuum pump and timer, re-seal all the delivery valves, then found a complete suspension rebuild was needed, front and rear. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On June 24, 2015 5:47:08 AM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: BTW, were you the fellow with the 94-95 300D that was out of service for an extended time while waiting for a vacuum pump or oil pump or something after the vacuum pump self destructed? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crack or Whack?
Drool worthy none the less. On Jun 25, 2015 7:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I know these command high dollar these days, but…. http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5092579872.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My shaky front end is FIXED on my 95 E300D
You should check the outer bearings on the spring (bottom) link at the wheel carrier -- they go bad when the boots fail, causing the rear end to wander and knocking noises. Could also be a shock that has leaked enough oil for the pressurizing piston to hit the operating piston on large bumps. I'm in the process of replacing the outer bearings on my cars, along with a lot of other stuff -- taking a long time as I was sick most of the winter and just now getting back into shape to bang on rear suspension stuff. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - REMINDER
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 22:13:45 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have no complaints, as I pretty much go in once a day and just dump everything. I gave up trying to sift through it a while back, as it was an exercise in futility. I just found that if people give me a heads up that they got a hold notice I can go in and release their message easily because having a time stamp gives me a point of reference. Just forward the hold notice to Dan ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
