[MBZ] 10,000 W

[Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes]

walmart has it

http://www.walmart.com/ip/37547928?wmlspartner=wlpa=227025807150==g=c=52400709735==pla=79486368615=sem

probably a small bottle

same on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OFNA-Silicone-Diff-Oil-10-000-Wt-OFN10235/401017836988?_trksid=p2047675.c15.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D34225%26meid%3D2bc9f2cab347428eb8bee7ce09592547%26pid%3D15%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D272023087657=nc

no one says the volume

xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac: Bummer

[clay via Mercedes]

For longevity I would be aimed at a Mid 2010 with the Core i5.   The C2D are 
getting long in the tooth and apt to hit their ceiling OS wise.  That does 
orphan a bunch of legacy hardware.  

clay

On Nov 19, 2015, at 6:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

> Yeah, unfortunately the CD vs. C2D thing is what's going to push that machine 
> into obsolescence.
> 
> I just bought a pristine, one owner 17" MacBook Pro that's a C2D machine. It 
> will go up to 8Gb RAM for very little $$ and with an SSD to replace the 
> rotating drive with be plenty fast. And this one has the BTO matte screen and 
> dual video cards, too. The dual video card feature was unique to this model 
> and went a long way in offloading machine cycles from the main processor.
> 
> This will free up a very nice C2D unibody 15" MacBook Pro I currently use for 
> my daily home machine. It will go on CL to subsidize the purchase of the 17" 
> MBP.
> 
> MacDan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2015, at 10:13 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I finally got the macbook 1,1 up to 10.6.8.  It then installed Safari 5.  
>> All that works, but safari 5 is unsupported for many online applications.  
>> Chrome, Right?  THat is what I run on my MBP with 10.6.8.
>> 
>> Wrong!  After I downloaded chrome, and tried to installed it, it won't run.  
>> It seems that it is not supporting intel core2 processors!  I think it wants 
>> C2D.
>> 
>> So, still no browser.  I guess I'll check out FF, but it would not run on 
>> 10.5.  At least safari 5 is accepted more places than 4.
>> 
>> Note to Apple, google, Mozilla:  It really sucks that I can run winders (and 
>> web browsers) on 10-15 yr old machines, but I can't run a simple web browser 
>> on a 7 yr old Intel Mac!
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Re: [MBZ] A comment about updating a Mac to El Capitan

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

He's probably using iMovie or Final Cut Pro, neither of which have been updated 
for El Capitan yet.
That was a big frustration back when I worked in phone support. We supported 
hardware that used FCP to edit with and Mac users LOVE to upgrade so we'd get a 
flurry of calls from people that had upgraded to an OS that Apple didn't even 
support its own software on yet...
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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Cc: Dan Penoff 
 Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 1:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] A comment about updating a Mac to El Capitan
   
Exactly.

I have a very pristine install on the MBP which I use daily, and it's perfectly 
stable. Hasn't missed a lick since I updated.  I would add that might I'm the 
developer program, so the update he's talking about probably came to me as a 
beta last month.  Still not a problem for me.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

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> What is missing is what specific hardware he has, and what software he is 
> trying to use for the video.
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Re: [MBZ] A comment about updating a Mac to El Capitan

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

From Tim Carter of AsktheBuilder.com,


Apple El Capitan Software Update

DO NOT INSTALL the El Capitan operating system update!

I installed it on my laptop this past weekend and it's got more bugs in
it than a restaurant dumpster that's been sitting full in the Georgia sun
for the month of August.

As soon as I can get the computer stable, I'll plug in my backup drive,
use Time Machine and wipe the WRETCHED software off my laptop.

I've been trying to edit one of my last videos of my new roof and the
laptop crashes more than an inebriated patron driving a bumper car at the
county fair.

Apple should be ashamed of themselves for releasing a software update
that's causing all these problems.

Don't waste your time telling me all about PCs. I was a Bill Gates zealot
for about 20 years then threw in the towel because of all of the issues
with Microsoft operating systems.

You telling me how great Microsoft is is like you telling me your Chevy
truck is better than my Ford.

Blah blah blah blah.

We both could chase those snakes all day long.

:-)


What is missing is what specific hardware he has, and what software 
he is trying to use for the video.


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Re: [MBZ] 1980 W116 for just $4999... 5

[clay via Mercedes]

At that price, the shoppe should have dusted off the parts they re-used, or 
replace with shiny new parts.  Scuffed up valve covers, oxidized caps, dirty 
engine bay.  At least detail the hell out of it so it look like it just came 
off the boat.



clay 

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> Brought to you by the Classic Center.  Has leather seating!
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Re: [MBZ] Idaho

[clay via Mercedes]

A person could hide whole insurgent armies in ID.  Oh, wait, they already have.

clay


On Nov 19, 2015, at 6:20 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

> More importantly I wonder if there are areas a person could horde junk 
> Mercedes.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 19, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Boise is amazingly reasonable considering that it's gotten some influx of 
>> SoCal people, but not nearly as much as the more tourista areas. Cost of 
>> living is decent as well, and the climate is amazingly temperate.
>> 
>> Large contingent of Mormon folks, but not overwhelming like SLC. You'll 
>> still be able to get caffeinated beverages and not be required to wear the 
>> special undergarments.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>>> On Nov 19, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just for giggles I was looking at houses for sale in the Boise area. Just a 
>>> quick look the houses are not really prices all that much higher than here 
>>> with houses on some average.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] wow

[clay via Mercedes]

That was the loaner when I had a car in the dealer bays.  Silver with grey 
skins.  Rental not loaner, but they would probably pay for an SLS owner.  The 
loaners are Smart cars

clay

On Nov 19, 2015, at 8:06 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

> Probably a black C class with a faun interior
> 
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I wonder if it has the bulletproof windows too?
>> 
>> They ought to give him an AMG GT or at least a nice SL63 or something.
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/19/15 10:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm wondering what kind of loaner they're giving him.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On Nov 19, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Transmission needs to be built from scratch; will have the car back in
 Feb.
 2016.  "The car is otherwise bulletproof".  ROFLMAO
 
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> http://oppositelock.kinja.com/the-more-you-know-sls-replacement-transmissions-are-b-1743456154
> 
> --R
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[MBZ] A comment about updating a Mac to El Capitan

[Craig via Mercedes]

>From Tim Carter of AsktheBuilder.com,


Apple El Capitan Software Update

DO NOT INSTALL the El Capitan operating system update!

I installed it on my laptop this past weekend and it's got more bugs in
it than a restaurant dumpster that's been sitting full in the Georgia sun
for the month of August.

As soon as I can get the computer stable, I'll plug in my backup drive,
use Time Machine and wipe the WRETCHED software off my laptop.

I've been trying to edit one of my last videos of my new roof and the
laptop crashes more than an inebriated patron driving a bumper car at the
county fair.

Apple should be ashamed of themselves for releasing a software update
that's causing all these problems.

Don't waste your time telling me all about PCs. I was a Bill Gates zealot
for about 20 years then threw in the towel because of all of the issues
with Microsoft operating systems.

You telling me how great Microsoft is is like you telling me your Chevy
truck is better than my Ford.

Blah blah blah blah.

We both could chase those snakes all day long.

:-)

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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac: Bummer

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

That and the CD only does 32 bit processing while the C2D does 64 
bit. L2 (Level 2) cache in the CD is 2MB while the C2D L2 is up to 
4MB.


There are also some additional features in the C2D such as memory 
disambiguation that allows it to process more data at once at a 
higher speed, but it can also get to that data faster.


Pretty much any Intel PC processor you buy today is a C2D design, 
with the primary differences being FSB (front side bus) speed and 
the amount of CPU cache memory.


Dan


then there are i5 and i7 processors.  Mine is an i5 so I think it 
will hang on a few more years.


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Re: [MBZ] Idaho

[clay via Mercedes]

Driving distance to WA, OR, UT, CO, NV.  Fly to AZ and CA markets.

clay

On Nov 19, 2015, at 6:03 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

> Boise is amazingly reasonable considering that it's gotten some influx of 
> SoCal people, but not nearly as much as the more tourista areas. Cost of 
> living is decent as well, and the climate is amazingly temperate.
> 
> Large contingent of Mormon folks, but not overwhelming like SLC. You'll still 
> be able to get caffeinated beverages and not be required to wear the special 
> undergarments.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Nov 19, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Just for giggles I was looking at houses for sale in the Boise area. Just a 
>> quick look the houses are not really prices all that much higher than here 
>> with houses on some average.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] A comment about updating a Mac to El Capitan

[clay via Mercedes]

So far no issues on my mid 2009 MB.  Clean install for the most part, since I 
had nothing but OS on the drive anyway.  Ability to run the newest iterations 
of streaming software that is not supported on 10.7 and fast enough to not be 
bogged down by the winblows junk

clay


On Nov 19, 2015, at 9:54 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

> From Tim Carter of AsktheBuilder.com,
> 
> 
> Apple El Capitan Software Update
> 
> DO NOT INSTALL the El Capitan operating system update!
> 
> I installed it on my laptop this past weekend and it's got more bugs in
> it than a restaurant dumpster that's been sitting full in the Georgia sun
> for the month of August.
> 
> As soon as I can get the computer stable, I'll plug in my backup drive,
> use Time Machine and wipe the WRETCHED software off my laptop.
> 
> I've been trying to edit one of my last videos of my new roof and the
> laptop crashes more than an inebriated patron driving a bumper car at the
> county fair.
> 
> Apple should be ashamed of themselves for releasing a software update
> that's causing all these problems.
> 
> Don't waste your time telling me all about PCs. I was a Bill Gates zealot
> for about 20 years then threw in the towel because of all of the issues
> with Microsoft operating systems.
> 
> You telling me how great Microsoft is is like you telling me your Chevy
> truck is better than my Ford.
> 
> Blah blah blah blah.
> 
> We both could chase those snakes all day long.
> 
> :-)
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Re: [MBZ] wow

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yeah, that was a trick question.  I was trying to "out" a sleeper agent for
the electric car lobby...

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> On 19/11/2015 2:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I am jonesing for a Smart Electric.  Anybody drive one?
>>
>>
>> Do you honestly think that if we did drive one, that we would admit it?
>
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] wow

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I could see it in a congested urban area like DC or NYC or whatever, 
going to and from work or errands or such on city streets.  I would 
never drive one on any roads above 35 or so, or where F-150s or Mipsi in 
her Suburban with her cell phone fetish are prevalent.


--R

On 11/19/15 4:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

On 19/11/2015 2:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I am jonesing for a Smart Electric. Anybody drive one?



Do you honestly think that if we did drive one, that we would admit it?

RB

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Re: [MBZ] wow

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I like electric cars, I've driven both the Fiat and the Nissan Leaf, liked 'em 
both although I probably like the Leaf a little more. The Leaf is much bigger 
than the Smart, more like the size of a Golf. It was reasonably peppy, quiet 
and not at all a rattly deathtrap. If they were similarly priced I'd always go 
to the larger car. IMHO the Smart is wy overpriced, under featured and 
under mileage.
-Curt

  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
 Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] wow
   
Yeah, that was a trick question.  I was trying to "out" a sleeper agent for
the electric car lobby...

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> On 19/11/2015 2:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I am jonesing for a Smart Electric.  Anybody drive one?
>>
>>
>> Do you honestly think that if we did drive one, that we would admit it?
>
> RB
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[MBZ] This is all kinds of awesome

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Especially the Connie, though I am a bit concerned about that rope

http://jalopnik.com/once-you-could-transport-a-car-by-shoving-it-in-a-boat-1743512217

--R

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Re: [MBZ] The Undead Sled

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

He drove certainly the one or other mob boss to seiners rest. Stainless 
he has no, the snow knows the car only heard about. I wanted him as a 
show car for my I am selling my 1973 Mercedes 200 dieselThe interior is 
like okay.

On 11/19/15 6:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
You want a 240D for this application, for sure…

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-/191737747018?forcerrptr=true=item2ca475d64a:g:g6MAAOSwkZhWRi6U=191737747018

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac: Bummer

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

You need older versions for browsers, the new ones for download are  
always the latest.\


Chrome has stopped supporting 10.6.8, but I'm sure you can download  
the older version of that.


Firefox is still current for 10.6.8 as a couple months ago when I  
downloaded the last version.  Again, if the latest version won't work,  
find an older one.


Peter

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[MBZ] in praise of 4 wheel drive

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

We got a taste of winter late yesterday.
A bit white looking around here now.
Only an inch or so but it made for slippery roads. There was a 20 car 
pileup on Bishop Grandin Blvd last night.
One would think that people who live in the GWN would remember from year 
to year that one must slow down when things turn white and leave a bit 
more space between cars.

I have been driving for about 46 winters now and I managed ok.
I went to a funeral for a friend this morning which meant a drive of 30 
miles or so in each direction. Took the perimeter highway from the south 
side, around the east side to the north side and then took a highway a 
few miles north from there. Windy so blowing snow and some snow on the 
roadway in spots. Always wonder about the spots without snow - slippery 
or not? Got to say that 4 wheel drive is a wonderful thing.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] wow

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I am jonesing for a Smart Electric.  Anybody drive one?

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 2:21 PM, clay via Mercedes 
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> That was the loaner when I had a car in the dealer bays.  Silver with grey
> skins.  Rental not loaner, but they would probably pay for an SLS owner.
> The loaners are Smart cars
>
> clay
>
> On Nov 19, 2015, at 8:06 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
> > Probably a black C class with a faun interior
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I wonder if it has the bulletproof windows too?
> >>
> >> They ought to give him an AMG GT or at least a nice SL63 or something.
> >>
> >> --R
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/19/15 10:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm wondering what kind of loaner they're giving him.
> >>>
> >>> Dan
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>
> >>> On Nov 19, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  Transmission needs to be built from scratch; will have the car back in
>  Feb.
>  2016.  "The car is otherwise bulletproof".  ROFLMAO
> 
>  On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> >
> http://oppositelock.kinja.com/the-more-you-know-sls-replacement-transmissions-are-b-1743456154
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Re: [MBZ] wow

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 19/11/2015 2:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I am jonesing for a Smart Electric.  Anybody drive one?



Do you honestly think that if we did drive one, that we would admit it?

RB

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Re: [MBZ] in praise of 4 wheel drive

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

4 wheel drive is most of the time a waste of gas, snow tires are a wonderful 
thing. I'll be putting the snows on the Jetta next week. The Golf came with 
nice looking all season tires, I'll give them a shot, if they don't work out 
I'll get a set of ugly wheels and put some snows on that too.I usually use 
really cheap snow tires and have had really good luck, even cheap snows are 
better than most all season tires in the snow and ice. My '98 Jetta was a 
disaster with all season tires, with snows it'll go anywhere it can keep the 
tires on the ground. I got narrow tires 175 something R14 where my summer tires 
are 185 something R14. Most folks run 205 something R14 on them...
Of course last week at camp I ran the 4wd in the Dodge a bunch, found some 
really sloppy wet mud that challenged it. That truck is due for tires soon, 
it'll get something a little more aggressive this time.
-Curt

  From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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Cc: Randy Bennell 
 Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:07 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] in praise of 4 wheel drive
   
We got a taste of winter late yesterday.
A bit white looking around here now.
Only an inch or so but it made for slippery roads. There was a 20 car 
pileup on Bishop Grandin Blvd last night.
One would think that people who live in the GWN would remember from year 
to year that one must slow down when things turn white and leave a bit 
more space between cars.
I have been driving for about 46 winters now and I managed ok.
I went to a funeral for a friend this morning which meant a drive of 30 
miles or so in each direction. Took the perimeter highway from the south 
side, around the east side to the north side and then took a highway a 
few miles north from there. Windy so blowing snow and some snow on the 
roadway in spots. Always wonder about the spots without snow - slippery 
or not? Got to say that 4 wheel drive is a wonderful thing.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment on 240d

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

90 minues labor iirc.  Around $150 these days, + parts.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Bob via Mercedes 
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> I just adjusted my valves before the cold air moves in for the season. 1983
>  240D needed it bad,its been 30 K since I did last.  It took me 3 hrs
> taking  my time & cleaning parts as I go along. Got MB rubber gasket for
> $12 from
>  stealership. Question is : what is the going cost for this job by the
> mechanic ?  Just curious as to how much I saved..
>
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Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment on 240d

[Bob via Mercedes]

I just adjusted my valves before the cold air moves in for the season. 1983 
 240D needed it bad,its been 30 K since I did last.  It took me 3 hrs 
taking  my time & cleaning parts as I go along. Got MB rubber gasket for $12 
from 
 stealership. Question is : what is the going cost for this job by the  
mechanic ?  Just curious as to how much I saved..
 
Bob
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[MBZ] "Pebble Beach eligible"

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Uh, yeah.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-Fleetwood-Fleetwood-/161890650679?forcerrptr=true=item25b16f4a37:g:v9UAAOSwYHxWQYjQ=161890650679

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[MBZ] The Undead Sled

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You want a 240D for this application, for sure…

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-/191737747018?forcerrptr=true=item2ca475d64a:g:g6MAAOSwkZhWRi6U=191737747018

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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac: Bummer

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Sorry.

CD = CoreDuo processor

C2D = Core2Duo processor

Dan

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> On Nov 19, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
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> 
> what is C2D?
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 11/19/15 9:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yeah, unfortunately the CD vs. C2D thing is what's going to push that 
>> machine into obsolescence.
>> 
>> I just bought a pristine, one owner 17" MacBook Pro that's a C2D machine. It 
>> will go up to 8Gb RAM for very little $$ and with an SSD to replace the 
>> rotating drive with be plenty fast. And this one has the BTO matte screen 
>> and dual video cards, too. The dual video card feature was unique to this 
>> model and went a long way in offloading machine cycles from the main 
>> processor.
>> 
>> This will free up a very nice C2D unibody 15" MacBook Pro I currently use 
>> for my daily home machine. It will go on CL to subsidize the purchase of the 
>> 17" MBP.
>> 
>> MacDan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2015, at 10:13 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
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>>> I finally got the macbook 1,1 up to 10.6.8.  It then installed Safari 5.  
>>> All that works, but safari 5 is unsupported for many online applications.  
>>> Chrome, Right?  THat is what I run on my MBP with 10.6.8.
>>> 
>>> Wrong!  After I downloaded chrome, and tried to installed it, it won't run. 
>>>  It seems that it is not supporting intel core2 processors!  I think it 
>>> wants C2D.
>>> 
>>> So, still no browser.  I guess I'll check out FF, but it would not run on 
>>> 10.5.  At least safari 5 is accepted more places than 4.
>>> 
>>> Note to Apple, google, Mozilla:  It really sucks that I can run winders 
>>> (and web browsers) on 10-15 yr old machines, but I can't run a simple web 
>>> browser on a 7 yr old Intel Mac!
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac: Bummer

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I see, the C2D goes up to 2, which is 1 more than 1, so it's better.

--R

On 11/19/15 10:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Sorry.

CD = CoreDuo processor

C2D = Core2Duo processor

Dan

Sent from my iPad


On Nov 19, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
wrote:

what is C2D?

--R


On 11/19/15 9:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Yeah, unfortunately the CD vs. C2D thing is what's going to push that machine 
into obsolescence.

I just bought a pristine, one owner 17" MacBook Pro that's a C2D machine. It 
will go up to 8Gb RAM for very little $$ and with an SSD to replace the rotating 
drive with be plenty fast. And this one has the BTO matte screen and dual video 
cards, too. The dual video card feature was unique to this model and went a long way 
in offloading machine cycles from the main processor.

This will free up a very nice C2D unibody 15" MacBook Pro I currently use for my 
daily home machine. It will go on CL to subsidize the purchase of the 17" MBP.

MacDan

Sent from my iPad


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wrote:

I finally got the macbook 1,1 up to 10.6.8.  It then installed Safari 5.  All 
that works, but safari 5 is unsupported for many online applications.  Chrome, 
Right?  THat is what I run on my MBP with 10.6.8.

Wrong!  After I downloaded chrome, and tried to installed it, it won't run.  It 
seems that it is not supporting intel core2 processors!  I think it wants C2D.

So, still no browser.  I guess I'll check out FF, but it would not run on 10.5. 
 At least safari 5 is accepted more places than 4.

Note to Apple, google, Mozilla:  It really sucks that I can run winders (and 
web browsers) on 10-15 yr old machines, but I can't run a simple web browser on 
a 7 yr old Intel Mac!

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Re: [MBZ] in praise of 4 wheel drive

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Siberia is snow covered, which means New England is going to get WHACKED
again this winter.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 4 wheel drive is most of the time a waste of gas, snow tires are a
> wonderful thing. I'll be putting the snows on the Jetta next week. The Golf
> came with nice looking all season tires, I'll give them a shot, if they
> don't work out I'll get a set of ugly wheels and put some snows on that
> too.I usually use really cheap snow tires and have had really good luck,
> even cheap snows are better than most all season tires in the snow and ice.
> My '98 Jetta was a disaster with all season tires, with snows it'll go
> anywhere it can keep the tires on the ground. I got narrow tires 175
> something R14 where my summer tires are 185 something R14. Most folks run
> 205 something R14 on them...
> Of course last week at camp I ran the 4wd in the Dodge a bunch, found some
> really sloppy wet mud that challenged it. That truck is due for tires soon,
> it'll get something a little more aggressive this time.
> -Curt
>
>   From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Randy Bennell 
>  Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:07 PM
>  Subject: [MBZ] in praise of 4 wheel drive
>
> We got a taste of winter late yesterday.
> A bit white looking around here now.
> Only an inch or so but it made for slippery roads. There was a 20 car
> pileup on Bishop Grandin Blvd last night.
> One would think that people who live in the GWN would remember from year
> to year that one must slow down when things turn white and leave a bit
> more space between cars.
> I have been driving for about 46 winters now and I managed ok.
> I went to a funeral for a friend this morning which meant a drive of 30
> miles or so in each direction. Took the perimeter highway from the south
> side, around the east side to the north side and then took a highway a
> few miles north from there. Windy so blowing snow and some snow on the
> roadway in spots. Always wonder about the spots without snow - slippery
> or not? Got to say that 4 wheel drive is a wonderful thing.
>
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] wow

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Maybe it's wiser to look for a used Leaf

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I like electric cars, I've driven both the Fiat and the Nissan Leaf, liked
> 'em both although I probably like the Leaf a little more. The Leaf is much
> bigger than the Smart, more like the size of a Golf. It was reasonably
> peppy, quiet and not at all a rattly deathtrap. If they were similarly
> priced I'd always go to the larger car. IMHO the Smart is wy
> overpriced, under featured and under mileage.
> -Curt
>
>   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
>  Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 4:12 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] wow
>
> Yeah, that was a trick question.  I was trying to "out" a sleeper agent for
> the electric car lobby...
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > On 19/11/2015 2:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> I am jonesing for a Smart Electric.  Anybody drive one?
> >>
> >>
> >> Do you honestly think that if we did drive one, that we would admit it?
> >
> > RB
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[MBZ] Generators

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Washington St., particularly the Eastern part, got whacked with
high winds Tuesday night.  Massive power outages.  My rope-pull
gennys have not been behaving well, and Big Bertha was in need
of minor service.  Tonight I put another used starting battery
on it (it takes two---24V) and replaced the heater hose vapor
fuel line with a proper armored line.

I hit the switch, and it cranked.  I turned on the fuel, and
it fired right up.  We've bathed, are running laundry, and are
watching House of Cards on the boob tube.  Very comfortable.

The hour meter was 3.6 hours when I started it.  We've already
run out 1/2 forklift tank of fuel, and it's chewing rapidly
on the other one, which was full.  _Very_ expensive showers...

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] wow

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I was trying to think of a really mundane/unappealing color combination.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Faun Liebowitz?
>
> Dan "Dean Wormer"
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> > On Nov 19, 2015, at 11:06 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Probably a black C class with a faun interior
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I wonder if it has the bulletproof windows too?
> >>
> >> They ought to give him an AMG GT or at least a nice SL63 or something.
> >>
> >> --R
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Re: [MBZ] wow

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

It's what all aspiring real estate agents drive!

--R

On 11/19/15 11:15 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I was trying to think of a really mundane/unappealing color combination.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Faun Liebowitz?

Dan "Dean Wormer"


Sent from my iPad


On Nov 19, 2015, at 11:06 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Probably a black C class with a faun interior

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I wonder if it has the bulletproof windows too?

They ought to give him an AMG GT or at least a nice SL63 or something.

--R

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[MBZ] 1980 W116 for just $4999... 5

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Brought to you by the Classic Center.  Has leather seating!

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Re: [MBZ] This is all kinds of awesome

[OK Don via Mercedes]

There are similar cargo pods for Cessna's, though I don't think that they
will carry 2000 lbs, nor the size of an MGA. Mine will carry 1005 lbs, but
that includes fuel and pilot . . .

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
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> Especially the Connie, though I am a bit concerned about that rope
>
>
> http://jalopnik.com/once-you-could-transport-a-car-by-shoving-it-in-a-boat-1743512217
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Re: [MBZ] The Undead Sled

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The wacky syntax suggests the text may have been machine-translated

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> He drove certainly the one or other mob boss to seiners rest. Stainless he
> has no, the snow knows the car only heard about. I wanted him as a show car
> for my I am selling my 1973 Mercedes 200 dieselThe interior is like okay.
>
> On 11/19/15 6:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> You want a 240D for this application, for sure…
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-/191737747018?forcerrptr=true=item2ca475d64a:g:g6MAAOSwkZhWRi6U=191737747018
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Re: [MBZ] "Pebble Beach eligible"

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Yeah, it would be fun to see the look on the faces of the Pebble Beach
blazer-clad judges when this POS arrives seeking entry into the concour...

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
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> I knew this guy in Houston who was into old cars and hot rods and stuff,
> he had a little house that had a huge shed built onto it, he worked on his
> cars in there.  He had 2 of these things in probably worse shape than that,
> one was sorta OK the other was pretty rusty and beat up but a good donor
> for stuff.  He had another Cad of that vintage that he had fixed up and was
> actually in nice shape, it was a sedan of some sort.  Not a Pebble Beach
> car but maybe to go down to Galveston or something.
>
> The guy was pretty weird, I ended up giving my old rusted-out Blazer to
> him after I pulled the injun and trani, his son wanted to make some kind of
> off-roader with it, he probably ended up just junking it for the cash but I
> ran out of time to fool with it.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 11/19/15 6:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Uh, yeah.
>>
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadillac-Fleetwood-Fleetwood-/161890650679?forcerrptr=true=item25b16f4a37:g:v9UAAOSwYHxWQYjQ=161890650679
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Re: [MBZ] in praise of 4 wheel drive

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Siberia is snow covered, which means New England is going to get WHACKED
again this winter.


I hope that includes DC.  That is one way to keep the goobers from 
doing harm.  About the only way, unless we replaced 300 or more of 
the elected goobers with Cruzes.


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Re: [MBZ] in praise of 4 wheel drive

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Snow in minimal amounts is a solvent on the glue of society in the DC area. 

--R (sent from my miniPad)

> On Nov 19, 2015, at 11:28 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 

> Siberia is snow covered, which means New England is going to get WHACKED
> again this winter.

I hope that includes DC.  That is one way to keep the goobers from doing harm.  
About the only way, unless we replaced 300 or more of the elected goobers with 
Cruzes.

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Re: [MBZ] wow

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I'm wondering what kind of loaner they're giving him.

Dan

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> On Nov 19, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> Transmission needs to be built from scratch; will have the car back in Feb.
> 2016.  "The car is otherwise bulletproof".  ROFLMAO
> 
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>> 
>> http://oppositelock.kinja.com/the-more-you-know-sls-replacement-transmissions-are-b-1743456154
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>> --R
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac: Bummer

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That and the CD only does 32 bit processing while the C2D does 64 bit. L2 
(Level 2) cache in the CD is 2MB while the C2D L2 is up to 4MB.

There are also some additional features in the C2D such as memory 
disambiguation that allows it to process more data at once at a higher speed, 
but it can also get to that data faster.

Pretty much any Intel PC processor you buy today is a C2D design, with the 
primary differences being FSB (front side bus) speed and the amount of CPU 
cache memory.

Dan

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> On Nov 19, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
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> 
> I see, the C2D goes up to 2, which is 1 more than 1, so it's better.
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 11/19/15 10:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Sorry.
>> 
>> CD = CoreDuo processor
>> 
>> C2D = Core2Duo processor
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Nov 19, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> what is C2D?
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> 
 On 11/19/15 9:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 Yeah, unfortunately the CD vs. C2D thing is what's going to push that 
 machine into obsolescence.
 
 I just bought a pristine, one owner 17" MacBook Pro that's a C2D machine. 
 It will go up to 8Gb RAM for very little $$ and with an SSD to replace the 
 rotating drive with be plenty fast. And this one has the BTO matte screen 
 and dual video cards, too. The dual video card feature was unique to this 
 model and went a long way in offloading machine cycles from the main 
 processor.
 
 This will free up a very nice C2D unibody 15" MacBook Pro I currently use 
 for my daily home machine. It will go on CL to subsidize the purchase of 
 the 17" MBP.
 
 MacDan
 
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> On Nov 18, 2015, at 10:13 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I finally got the macbook 1,1 up to 10.6.8.  It then installed Safari 5.  
> All that works, but safari 5 is unsupported for many online applications. 
>  Chrome, Right?  THat is what I run on my MBP with 10.6.8.
> 
> Wrong!  After I downloaded chrome, and tried to installed it, it won't 
> run.  It seems that it is not supporting intel core2 processors!  I think 
> it wants C2D.
> 
> So, still no browser.  I guess I'll check out FF, but it would not run on 
> 10.5.  At least safari 5 is accepted more places than 4.
> 
> Note to Apple, google, Mozilla:  It really sucks that I can run winders 
> (and web browsers) on 10-15 yr old machines, but I can't run a simple web 
> browser on a 7 yr old Intel Mac!
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Re: [MBZ] wow

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Faun Liebowitz?

Dan "Dean Wormer"


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> On Nov 19, 2015, at 11:06 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> Probably a black C class with a faun interior
> 
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I wonder if it has the bulletproof windows too?
>> 
>> They ought to give him an AMG GT or at least a nice SL63 or something.
>> 
>> --R

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Re: [MBZ] wow

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Transmission needs to be built from scratch; will have the car back in Feb.
2016.  "The car is otherwise bulletproof".  ROFLMAO

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> http://oppositelock.kinja.com/the-more-you-know-sls-replacement-transmissions-are-b-1743456154
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Re: [MBZ] wow

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I wonder if it has the bulletproof windows too?

They ought to give him an AMG GT or at least a nice SL63 or something.

--R

On 11/19/15 10:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I'm wondering what kind of loaner they're giving him.

Dan

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Transmission needs to be built from scratch; will have the car back in Feb.
2016.  "The car is otherwise bulletproof".  ROFLMAO

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http://oppositelock.kinja.com/the-more-you-know-sls-replacement-transmissions-are-b-1743456154

--R

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Re: [MBZ] wow

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Probably a black C class with a faun interior

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I wonder if it has the bulletproof windows too?
>
> They ought to give him an AMG GT or at least a nice SL63 or something.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 11/19/15 10:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I'm wondering what kind of loaner they're giving him.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Nov 19, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Transmission needs to be built from scratch; will have the car back in
>>> Feb.
>>> 2016.  "The car is otherwise bulletproof".  ROFLMAO
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
 http://oppositelock.kinja.com/the-more-you-know-sls-replacement-transmissions-are-b-1743456154

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[MBZ] Idaho

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Just for giggles I was looking at houses for sale in the Boise area. Just a 
quick look the houses are not really prices all that much higher than here with 
houses on some average.

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Re: [MBZ] 10,000 W

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Got a bottle at the store 10 Miles east that sells Traxxas RC trucks. 
$4 for 2 oz.


Half of Walmert price.   Bottles are 1/2 oz (toada et al)  or 2 oz.

Ordered two 1/2 oz. bottles online for $10



walmart has it

http://www.walmart.com/ip/37547928?wmlspartner=wlpa=227025807150==g=c=52400709735==pla=79486368615=sem

probably a small bottle

same on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OFNA-Silicone-Diff-Oil-10-000-Wt-OFN10235/401017836988?_trksid=p2047675.c15.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D34225%26meid%3D2bc9f2cab347428eb8bee7ce09592547%26pid%3D15%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D272023087657=nc

no one says the volume

xx rick


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Re: [MBZ] Idaho

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Boise is amazingly reasonable considering that it's gotten some influx of SoCal 
people, but not nearly as much as the more tourista areas. Cost of living is 
decent as well, and the climate is amazingly temperate.

Large contingent of Mormon folks, but not overwhelming like SLC. You'll still 
be able to get caffeinated beverages and not be required to wear the special 
undergarments.

Dan

> On Nov 19, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> Just for giggles I was looking at houses for sale in the Boise area. Just a 
> quick look the houses are not really prices all that much higher than here 
> with houses on some average.
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Re: [MBZ] Idaho

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

One advantage of the AZ area or near Edwards AFB in CA (Lancaster) or 
lost wages is that the metal parts of your junkers won't deteriorate. 
The interior pars will degrade quickly.




Sure. There are plenty of outlying areas where you can get some land.

Dan

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 > More importantly I wonder if there are areas a person could horde 
junk Mercedes.


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Re: [MBZ] 10,000 W

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I just checked crockauto.  They had 1 new fan clutch for 45 shipped. 
(36+9)   I bought it.  This car is not worth it, but  it fits all the 
OM603s.


By the way the fan clutch oil is 10,000 centistoke, not API weight. 
It is about 200 weight on the API scale.



walmart has it

http://www.walmart.com/ip/37547928?wmlspartner=wlpa=227025807150==g=c=52400709735==pla=79486368615=sem

probably a small bottle

same on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OFNA-Silicone-Diff-Oil-10-000-Wt-OFN10235/401017836988?_trksid=p2047675.c15.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D34225%26meid%3D2bc9f2cab347428eb8bee7ce09592547%26pid%3D15%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D272023087657=nc

no one says the volume

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Re: [MBZ] Car for MMM

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

"the car reached the recommended mileage peek"

I sea what he did there

--R

On 11/18/15 7:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

This one’s for Marmel:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2507449-450-slc-sale-houston-texas.html#post13327545

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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac: Bummer

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

what is C2D?

--R

On 11/19/15 9:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, unfortunately the CD vs. C2D thing is what's going to push that machine 
into obsolescence.

I just bought a pristine, one owner 17" MacBook Pro that's a C2D machine. It 
will go up to 8Gb RAM for very little $$ and with an SSD to replace the rotating 
drive with be plenty fast. And this one has the BTO matte screen and dual video 
cards, too. The dual video card feature was unique to this model and went a long way 
in offloading machine cycles from the main processor.

This will free up a very nice C2D unibody 15" MacBook Pro I currently use for my 
daily home machine. It will go on CL to subsidize the purchase of the 17" MBP.

MacDan

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I finally got the macbook 1,1 up to 10.6.8.  It then installed Safari 5.  All 
that works, but safari 5 is unsupported for many online applications.  Chrome, 
Right?  THat is what I run on my MBP with 10.6.8.

Wrong!  After I downloaded chrome, and tried to installed it, it won't run.  It 
seems that it is not supporting intel core2 processors!  I think it wants C2D.

So, still no browser.  I guess I'll check out FF, but it would not run on 10.5. 
 At least safari 5 is accepted more places than 4.

Note to Apple, google, Mozilla:  It really sucks that I can run winders (and 
web browsers) on 10-15 yr old machines, but I can't run a simple web browser on 
a 7 yr old Intel Mac!

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[MBZ] wow

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

http://oppositelock.kinja.com/the-more-you-know-sls-replacement-transmissions-are-b-1743456154

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Re: [MBZ] Car for MMM

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Don't be a looser, give him a brake.

I want to see him rev that sucker up and listen for the chain guides to let go 
and scatter the engine. If that's the original color/paint, it's almost 
appealing. The wheels are an abomination, however.

Dan

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> wrote:
> 
> "the car reached the recommended mileage peek"
> 
> I sea what he did there
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 11/18/15 7:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> This one’s for Marmel:
>> 
>> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2507449-450-slc-sale-houston-texas.html#post13327545
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Re: [MBZ] Idaho

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

More importantly I wonder if there are areas a person could horde junk Mercedes.

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> Boise is amazingly reasonable considering that it's gotten some influx of 
> SoCal people, but not nearly as much as the more tourista areas. Cost of 
> living is decent as well, and the climate is amazingly temperate.
> 
> Large contingent of Mormon folks, but not overwhelming like SLC. You'll still 
> be able to get caffeinated beverages and not be required to wear the special 
> undergarments.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Nov 19, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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>> Just for giggles I was looking at houses for sale in the Boise area. Just a 
>> quick look the houses are not really prices all that much higher than here 
>> with houses on some average.
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Re: [MBZ] Idaho

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Sure. There are plenty of outlying areas where you can get some land.

Dan

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> On Nov 19, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> More importantly I wonder if there are areas a person could horde junk 
> Mercedes.
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>> On Nov 19, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Boise is amazingly reasonable considering that it's gotten some influx of 
>> SoCal people, but not nearly as much as the more tourista areas. Cost of 
>> living is decent as well, and the climate is amazingly temperate.
>> 
>> Large contingent of Mormon folks, but not overwhelming like SLC. You'll 
>> still be able to get caffeinated beverages and not be required to wear the 
>> special undergarments.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>>> On Nov 19, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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>>> Just for giggles I was looking at houses for sale in the Boise area. Just a 
>>> quick look the houses are not really prices all that much higher than here 
>>> with houses on some average.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mac: Bummer

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, unfortunately the CD vs. C2D thing is what's going to push that machine 
into obsolescence.

I just bought a pristine, one owner 17" MacBook Pro that's a C2D machine. It 
will go up to 8Gb RAM for very little $$ and with an SSD to replace the 
rotating drive with be plenty fast. And this one has the BTO matte screen and 
dual video cards, too. The dual video card feature was unique to this model and 
went a long way in offloading machine cycles from the main processor.

This will free up a very nice C2D unibody 15" MacBook Pro I currently use for 
my daily home machine. It will go on CL to subsidize the purchase of the 17" 
MBP.

MacDan

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> On Nov 18, 2015, at 10:13 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
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> I finally got the macbook 1,1 up to 10.6.8.  It then installed Safari 5.  All 
> that works, but safari 5 is unsupported for many online applications.  
> Chrome, Right?  THat is what I run on my MBP with 10.6.8.
> 
> Wrong!  After I downloaded chrome, and tried to installed it, it won't run.  
> It seems that it is not supporting intel core2 processors!  I think it wants 
> C2D.
> 
> So, still no browser.  I guess I'll check out FF, but it would not run on 
> 10.5.  At least safari 5 is accepted more places than 4.
> 
> Note to Apple, google, Mozilla:  It really sucks that I can run winders (and 
> web browsers) on 10-15 yr old machines, but I can't run a simple web browser 
> on a 7 yr old Intel Mac!
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