Re: [MBZ] 124 E420

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 19:07:48 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Most of the performance of the E500, for a LOT less $$$.
> 
> If you like a 124, and are going to pay someone else to wrench on it (no
> fun at all, that V8 is really crammed into a small engine compartment,
> ask Craig about fixing things on that engine), you'd probably really
> enjoy an E420.

I can concur on the tightness of the engine compartment and how difficult
it is to do things on it.


Craig

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[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: Barum Tars (and Goferem)

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

This site has a long list of tire reviews; some I've never heard of. Some 
possibly not available in the U.S.:

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Search/Size/195-60-14


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Curley McLain wrote:
> 
> If y'all remember, the Barum tars were iron curtain versions of 
> Continental tars.Yesterday I was looking at a display of antique 
> tractors.  Most of these have tires made by Titan, badyear or Farstone, 
> This summer I saw one with cheepchineechit tars.   Yesterday, I saw one 
> tractor with Barum tars.I thought that was interesting.  Maybe 
> discount tar direct also sells tractor tars?
> 
> Still waiting for longevity reports for andy's Goferem cheepchineechit 
> tars and for the Barum ex-commie tars.
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[MBZ] Engine shock 126 240 05 48

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

When I changed the motor mounts on Tex, (240D) The engine shock was dead 
one way and weak the other way.  I expected total collapse, but did not 
order a replacement ahead of time.



In the hunt around I did  this seemed to be the best delivered price I 
could find.  Anyone find a better deal?


https://www.amazon.com/Sachs-SG403026-Lift-Support/dp/B004A37NCQ

$35 delivered.   Sachs SG403026   1262400548

Runner up was this, at $41 delivered.

http://www.eeuroparts.com/Parts/65585/Engine-Torque-Damper-SG403026/

Autohaus is not in the running.

crock does not have them

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Re: [MBZ] 98 Jetta new high

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

I wonder if there has ever been a rusty car completely collapse while driving 
down the road? Found nothing on the internet.
Gerry

> Stop driving it! There's so much metal rusting away that it affected the fuel 
> economy that much :). Seriously, congrats and attaboy!!
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 
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> Sent from my cell   
> 
> > On Aug 28, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
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> > Lots of car discussion lately...The other day I refuelled the 98 Jetta and 
> > calculated just over 54 mpg. It'd had a mix of city and highway over 2 or 3 
> > weeks. I've got the summer tires on and have been keeping close tabs on 
> > tire pressure, running 40psi. The car rides hard anyway, the extra pressure 
> > doesn't effect it much, it's got sport seats from a K2 Jetta...
> > It's been a good car but the tin worm is getting serious. I'm thinking one 
> > more year and it's done. There's not much to weld to in the rockers 
> > anymore...
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Yes any performance gain probably depends in part upon how restrictive the
stock filter is that the KN replaces.

On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 3:36 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I read a report years ago about K outfitting the big trucks in an open
> pit mine with their filters. The mine threw them out after having to
> rebuild most of the engines due to cylinder wear from all the dirt that was
> getting in.
>
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > On late model TDIs they ruin MAF sensors. Even a very slight over oiling
> > kills a $150+ sensor.
> > I ran one in my Dakota for awhile, I could see no real performance or
> > economy gain. I'd like to try blind tests to see if somebody could tell.
> > Kid next door has a Mustang, I wonder if he'd be into the idea.
> > Curt
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> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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> >   On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes<
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   >
> > > I had the one that fit inside the stock air box. Anything providing
> > higher
> > > ambient air pressure at the inlet to the turbo is going to provide
> better
> > > performance. This is why all those turbocharged drag cars run without
> air
> > > cleaners. If you try that filter and drive with your foot on the floor
> > you
> > > will notice the difference.
> >
> >
> >
> > > I think K filters are garbage, but they do enhance performance at the
> > > expense of less filtration.
> >
> >
> > > On Aug 27, 2016 3:07 PM, "fmiser via Mercedes" 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> > Karl wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > What you're saying about ambient inlet pressure making no
> > >> > difference on a turbocharged engine is not quite correct.
> > >>
> > >> > ...the turbo operates on a pressure ratio. The lower the ambient
> > >> > pressure at the turbo inlet, the longer it takes for the turbo to
> > >> > spool, because it is feeding the engine less air at each rpm than
> > >> > it otherwise would.
> > >>
> > >> Ah!  You are talking about rapid increase in engine RPM.  I was
> > >> referring to power output - sustained.
> > >>
> > >> So, if you man "it takes longer for the turbo to build pressure"
> > >> rather than "it takes longer for the turbo to spool" - I fully
> > >> agree.
> > >>
> > >> > So a less restrictive filter results in faster spool. I also
> > >> > found that top end performance was improved, with a higher max
> > >> > rpm at max throttle. Is isn't even subtle. Taking off from a
> > >> > stoplight is a different experience.
> > >>
> > >> Hmm.  That doesn't match my experience with various diesel turbo
> > >> engines.  But if your experiences were otherwise, who am I to argue!
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] Holy mother of god

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Yup, even the seats are GREEN!   It is calling you"Kaleb!  
Kaleb!!   Kaleb!!!Kaaaleb  Kaleb, can you hear me??  I am 
Green!  I am simple!  I am OM616!   Kaaaleb?Kleb!"



Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 8:39 PM
But you like green, Kaleb.

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Re: [MBZ] OM616 transfer pump and primer; 123 LUST; ANTI1992 up NOW lathe

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You have lotsa room on your vast estate.  Buy a lathe, and then you can 
justify building a nice big shop/garage to keep you vast collection of 
vee-hickles in!  (along wiht the lathe.



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 7:00 PM
No I don't have a lathe or any tools, I keep thinking I need one but 
don't have much room at this time.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeep Renegade

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Yes! The wonders of the push and pray software!  Your masters say you 
can't start a car unless you push the brake.
Your masters tried to save you from death by Push and pray by keeping 
you from starting the car because you failed to DO as required.


The programmers code:
1.  I don't care if you don't like it  (You WILL do as I say!)
2.  I don't care if it is hard/inconvenient/etc. to use
3.If I learn a new trick, it WILL be used in the current 
project, even it it makes the project 10 or 50 times larger than what is 
needed.
4.If I tell you you HAVE to do this, you WILL do it, or else 
the program will not work.


You will perform as you are told, or you WILL walk   Push and pray!

Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 5:30 PM
I rented a car a couple years,ago & tried the button etc. No go. Finally
asked the janitor. I said I have been driving for 50 years but couldn't
start this puppy. He said, put your foot on the brake. Give me the
old-time metal keys.

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Re: [MBZ] Holy mother of god

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

But you like green, Kaleb.

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On Aug 28, 2016 8:09 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Uhh, I open by eyes and see in the photos the had the seats recovered in
> cheap aftermarket vinyl. I asked seller about it and he said he could not
> afford the correct ones. If he wants anywhere nears his asking price he is
> going to have to have it redone correctly.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Aug 28, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Kaleb wrote:
> >> I was all prepared to come up with the cash to buy this until I saw the
> >> horrible seat covers
> >
> > They seem to be nice looking for most ebay customers.   ...including
> > me.  Education me on what you see that is dead give away that these
> > are cheep covers?
> > Thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] AMG= Fuel Sucking Pig?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Those cars are pretty small but maybe could be entertaining if one could 
fit in it


--FT


On 8/28/16 8:24 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

http://flint.craigslist.org/cto/5697292148.html
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/comparempg.shtml#id=18327

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap 124 Diesel

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Its an $800 car to the right buyer.

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> On Aug 28, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Paint is thrashed and the front bumper is missing the trim strip.  Looks like 
> it’s been abused or poorly cared for.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That's cheap? I sold one a hell of a lot nicer that just needed a couple of 
>> minor things such as read shocks, new tires, and blower motor fixed for 1k. 
>> The bottom has dropped out of these. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/5752018253.html
>>> 
>>> 300K miles. I'm in Wichita, so if anyone is really interested, I can take a 
>>> look at it. 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] WAS 606 non turbo egr valve / W140 Issues

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

OK when the 140 goes to its new home you can send the DASHHT to its new 
home a bit north


--FT


On 8/28/16 9:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

The used EZL (ignition module) came in yesterday’s mail, but rather than tempt 
fate and run out and install it, I waited until this morning.

Swapped out the EZL, fired it up, ran like new.

Score one for the DAS/HHT.

Thanks to all who offered suggestions and support.

Now to start looking for another nice W126 or W124 diesel…. (s - don’t let 
the W140 hear me say that!)

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] Holy mother of god

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Uhh, I open by eyes and see in the photos the had the seats recovered in cheap 
aftermarket vinyl. I asked seller about it and he said he could not afford the 
correct ones. If he wants anywhere nears his asking price he is going to have 
to have it redone correctly.

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> On Aug 28, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Kaleb wrote:
>> I was all prepared to come up with the cash to buy this until I saw the
>> horrible seat covers
> 
> They seem to be nice looking for most ebay customers.   ...including
> me.  Education me on what you see that is dead give away that these
> are cheep covers?
> Thanks.
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] OM616 transfer pump and primer

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I never said I wanted out of them, I just said I have been buying older cars 
for when I want simpler cars.

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> On Aug 28, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Rick wrote:
>> I'll post a pic of an old one and a new one when I get home. Maybe I'll make 
>> a quick video
> 
> Thanks you Curley and Rick.
> The objective is sinister.  We want more lust for W123 since both Dan
> and okieKleb are wanting out from W140 computer systems.  $1k for
> computer? - sounds like luxury german automobile poor-engineering,
> whereas W123 still seems to be well-engineered practical wheels for
> common folk and taxi.
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap 124 Diesel

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Paint is thrashed and the front bumper is missing the trim strip.  Looks like 
it’s been abused or poorly cared for.

Dan

> On Aug 28, 2016, at 8:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That's cheap? I sold one a hell of a lot nicer that just needed a couple of 
> minor things such as read shocks, new tires, and blower motor fixed for 1k. 
> The bottom has dropped out of these. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/5752018253.html
>> 
>> 300K miles. I'm in Wichita, so if anyone is really interested, I can take a 
>> look at it. 
>> 
>> Donald H. Snook
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OM616 transfer pump and primer; 123 LUST; ANTI1992 up NOW lathe

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

No I don't have a lathe or any tools, I keep thinking I need one but 
don't have much room at this time.


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On 8/28/16 4:12 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Cheep Crapsman wood.   I intend to use it to make a stair rail 
adapter, then sell it.  Got any turning chisels you don't need?




Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 2:39 PM
What kind of lathe?

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap 124 Diesel

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

That's cheap? I sold one a hell of a lot nicer that just needed a couple of 
minor things such as read shocks, new tires, and blower motor fixed for 1k. The 
bottom has dropped out of these. 

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> On Aug 28, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/5752018253.html
> 
> 300K miles. I'm in Wichita, so if anyone is really interested, I can take a 
> look at it. 
> 
> Donald H. Snook
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeep Renegade

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Really? I bet theres a setting for that. My mother has a Cherokee similar to 
the one you had although yours was a Trailhawk which is an upgrade model. Hers 
doesn't shut off at stoplights...
BTW my mother's Cherokee is a surprisingly good offroader. We took it up the 
worst trail at camp which is littered with springs and gets real soupy. The 
trick is to let the traction control do its thing and just keep slogging, it 
finds traction and just keeps going. I just talked to my folks and dad says 
they've ripped a bunch of the plastic off the bottom but it hasn't gotten stuck 
and its been very wet up there.
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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Cc: Dan Penoff 
 Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 7:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeep Renegade
   
The Jeep I had at last year’s ‘Que was one of those cars that shuts off when 
you come to a stop and starts as soon as you press on the gas.  Freaked me out. 
 Did not like.

Dan

> On Aug 28, 2016, at 7:34 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Many of the cars today, including the Renegade I've got, have a screen that 
> tells you to step on the brake to start. Some of them even have an animation 
> showing you a foot on a brake.
> I agree, I like keys, especially without an accidentally setting off the 
> alarm clicker...
> -Curt
> 
>      From: Dwight Giles 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List ; Curt Raymond 
>  
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 6:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeep Renegade
> 
> I rented a car a couple years,ago  & tried the button etc. No go. Finally 
> asked the janitor. I  said I have been driving for  50 years but couldn't 
> start this puppy. He said, put your foot on the brake.  Give me the old-time  
> metal keys.Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 1990 300D
> Wickford RI 
> On Aug 28, 2016 5:32 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes"  
> wrote:
> 
> I was going to write a review about the Jeep Renegade I've got as a rental 
> this week. I picked it (National lets you pick your car) because my Dad's 
> Jeep Liberty needs replacing and the Renegade is at the top of his short list.
> Short review: its fine, as good as the Liberty, maybe a little more 
> comfortable, got 26+mpg from LAX to Burbank in heavy traffic. Has that stupid 
> deal where the first 1/2 of pedal travel is 80% of throttle control, I hate 
> that. Typical sloppy rental car transmission, I hope the "real" versions are 
> better. Overall about as quick as my Jetta.
> The funny part of the tale is when I got halfway to the hotel and realized I 
> didn't know where the "key" was. Its got the push button start that Curley 
> loves so much so I had just hopped in and pushed the button. Finally thought 
> it through, when they take the return they throw the "key" on the dash. In 
> this case it must have rolled back, I found it on the floor where the floor 
> mat meets the seat. The interior is black as is they "key" so it was 
> impossible to see, had to feel around for it.
> -Curt
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[MBZ] 240D in Stillwater

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/5735683081.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeep Renegade

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The Jeep I had at last year’s ‘Que was one of those cars that shuts off when 
you come to a stop and starts as soon as you press on the gas.  Freaked me out. 
 Did not like.

Dan

> On Aug 28, 2016, at 7:34 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Many of the cars today, including the Renegade I've got, have a screen that 
> tells you to step on the brake to start. Some of them even have an animation 
> showing you a foot on a brake.
> I agree, I like keys, especially without an accidentally setting off the 
> alarm clicker...
> -Curt
> 
>  From: Dwight Giles 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List ; Curt Raymond 
>  
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 6:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeep Renegade
> 
> I rented a car a couple years,ago  & tried the button etc. No go. Finally 
> asked the janitor. I  said I have been driving for  50 years but couldn't 
> start this puppy. He said, put your foot on the brake.  Give me the old-time  
> metal keys.Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 1990 300D
> Wickford RI 
> On Aug 28, 2016 5:32 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes"  
> wrote:
> 
> I was going to write a review about the Jeep Renegade I've got as a rental 
> this week. I picked it (National lets you pick your car) because my Dad's 
> Jeep Liberty needs replacing and the Renegade is at the top of his short list.
> Short review: its fine, as good as the Liberty, maybe a little more 
> comfortable, got 26+mpg from LAX to Burbank in heavy traffic. Has that stupid 
> deal where the first 1/2 of pedal travel is 80% of throttle control, I hate 
> that. Typical sloppy rental car transmission, I hope the "real" versions are 
> better. Overall about as quick as my Jetta.
> The funny part of the tale is when I got halfway to the hotel and realized I 
> didn't know where the "key" was. Its got the push button start that Curley 
> loves so much so I had just hopped in and pushed the button. Finally thought 
> it through, when they take the return they throw the "key" on the dash. In 
> this case it must have rolled back, I found it on the floor where the floor 
> mat meets the seat. The interior is black as is they "key" so it was 
> impossible to see, had to feel around for it.
> -Curt
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[MBZ] Cheap 124 Diesel

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/5752018253.html

300K miles. I'm in Wichita, so if anyone is really interested, I can take a 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeep Renegade

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Many of the cars today, including the Renegade I've got, have a screen that 
tells you to step on the brake to start. Some of them even have an animation 
showing you a foot on a brake.
I agree, I like keys, especially without an accidentally setting off the alarm 
clicker...
-Curt

  From: Dwight Giles 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List ; Curt Raymond 
 
 Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 6:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeep Renegade
   
I rented a car a couple years,ago  & tried the button etc. No go. Finally asked 
the janitor. I  said I have been driving for  50 years but couldn't start this 
puppy. He said, put your foot on the brake.  Give me the old-time  metal 
keys.Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI 
On Aug 28, 2016 5:32 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes"  
wrote:

I was going to write a review about the Jeep Renegade I've got as a rental this 
week. I picked it (National lets you pick your car) because my Dad's Jeep 
Liberty needs replacing and the Renegade is at the top of his short list.
Short review: its fine, as good as the Liberty, maybe a little more 
comfortable, got 26+mpg from LAX to Burbank in heavy traffic. Has that stupid 
deal where the first 1/2 of pedal travel is 80% of throttle control, I hate 
that. Typical sloppy rental car transmission, I hope the "real" versions are 
better. Overall about as quick as my Jetta.
The funny part of the tale is when I got halfway to the hotel and realized I 
didn't know where the "key" was. Its got the push button start that Curley 
loves so much so I had just hopped in and pushed the button. Finally thought it 
through, when they take the return they throw the "key" on the dash. In this 
case it must have rolled back, I found it on the floor where the floor mat 
meets the seat. The interior is black as is they "key" so it was impossible to 
see, had to feel around for it.
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I read a report years ago about K outfitting the big trucks in an open
pit mine with their filters. The mine threw them out after having to
rebuild most of the engines due to cylinder wear from all the dirt that was
getting in.

On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On late model TDIs they ruin MAF sensors. Even a very slight over oiling
> kills a $150+ sensor.
> I ran one in my Dakota for awhile, I could see no real performance or
> economy gain. I'd like to try blind tests to see if somebody could tell.
> Kid next door has a Mustang, I wonder if he'd be into the idea.
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   >
> > I had the one that fit inside the stock air box. Anything providing
> higher
> > ambient air pressure at the inlet to the turbo is going to provide better
> > performance. This is why all those turbocharged drag cars run without air
> > cleaners. If you try that filter and drive with your foot on the floor
> you
> > will notice the difference.
>
>
>
> > I think K filters are garbage, but they do enhance performance at the
> > expense of less filtration.
>
>
> > On Aug 27, 2016 3:07 PM, "fmiser via Mercedes" 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> > Karl wrote:
> >> >
> >> > What you're saying about ambient inlet pressure making no
> >> > difference on a turbocharged engine is not quite correct.
> >>
> >> > ...the turbo operates on a pressure ratio. The lower the ambient
> >> > pressure at the turbo inlet, the longer it takes for the turbo to
> >> > spool, because it is feeding the engine less air at each rpm than
> >> > it otherwise would.
> >>
> >> Ah!  You are talking about rapid increase in engine RPM.  I was
> >> referring to power output - sustained.
> >>
> >> So, if you man "it takes longer for the turbo to build pressure"
> >> rather than "it takes longer for the turbo to spool" - I fully
> >> agree.
> >>
> >> > So a less restrictive filter results in faster spool. I also
> >> > found that top end performance was improved, with a higher max
> >> > rpm at max throttle. Is isn't even subtle. Taking off from a
> >> > stoplight is a different experience.
> >>
> >> Hmm.  That doesn't match my experience with various diesel turbo
> >> engines.  But if your experiences were otherwise, who am I to argue!
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeep Renegade

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I rented a car a couple years,ago  & tried the button etc. No go. Finally
asked the janitor. I  said I have been driving for  50 years but couldn't
start this puppy. He said, put your foot on the brake.  Give me the
old-time  metal keys.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI

On Aug 28, 2016 5:32 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> I was going to write a review about the Jeep Renegade I've got as a rental
> this week. I picked it (National lets you pick your car) because my Dad's
> Jeep Liberty needs replacing and the Renegade is at the top of his short
> list.
> Short review: its fine, as good as the Liberty, maybe a little more
> comfortable, got 26+mpg from LAX to Burbank in heavy traffic. Has that
> stupid deal where the first 1/2 of pedal travel is 80% of throttle control,
> I hate that. Typical sloppy rental car transmission, I hope the "real"
> versions are better. Overall about as quick as my Jetta.
> The funny part of the tale is when I got halfway to the hotel and realized
> I didn't know where the "key" was. Its got the push button start that
> Curley loves so much so I had just hopped in and pushed the button. Finally
> thought it through, when they take the return they throw the "key" on the
> dash. In this case it must have rolled back, I found it on the floor where
> the floor mat meets the seat. The interior is black as is they "key" so it
> was impossible to see, had to feel around for it.
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT (sort of) Chrysler 300

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

No clue. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 28, 2016, at 3:02 PM, Donald Snook  wrote:
> 
> Yea. I knew that.  I was wondering about other things and whether they were 
> reliable.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 11:31 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (sort of) Chrysler 300
> 
> They use the mb transmission in those I believe
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 28, 2016, at 10:50 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Anybody know much about the first few years of the modern Chrysler 300?  I 
>> know the first few years had a lot of Mercedes components.  I saw an ad for 
>> a 2005 Chrysler 300C (with the 5.7 hemi) and am wondering about reliability. 
>>  
>> 
>> Donald H. Snook
>> 
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[MBZ] OT: Jeep Renegade

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I was going to write a review about the Jeep Renegade I've got as a rental this 
week. I picked it (National lets you pick your car) because my Dad's Jeep 
Liberty needs replacing and the Renegade is at the top of his short list.
Short review: its fine, as good as the Liberty, maybe a little more 
comfortable, got 26+mpg from LAX to Burbank in heavy traffic. Has that stupid 
deal where the first 1/2 of pedal travel is 80% of throttle control, I hate 
that. Typical sloppy rental car transmission, I hope the "real" versions are 
better. Overall about as quick as my Jetta.
The funny part of the tale is when I got halfway to the hotel and realized I 
didn't know where the "key" was. Its got the push button start that Curley 
loves so much so I had just hopped in and pushed the button. Finally thought it 
through, when they take the return they throw the "key" on the dash. In this 
case it must have rolled back, I found it on the floor where the floor mat 
meets the seat. The interior is black as is they "key" so it was impossible to 
see, had to feel around for it.
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT (sort of) Chrysler 300

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I think it depends on the model what you get for a trans. I've had them for 
rentals and they ALWAYS have horrible transmissions. Used to be a slushy 3spd 
but now I think you get a slushy 4spd. Friend had a Charger (basically the same 
car) once as a rental that had a v8 and 3spd, the engine was great, the trans 
sucked, it took forever to figure out you wanted to go.
My 2010 Dodge RAM has the 5.7l hemi v8 which is a terrific engine. 104,000 
miles now with no issues other than somebody butchered the rear wiring harness 
to put on the trailer lights but thats before I got it. My Indy got it 
straightened out no worries. IIRC it makes around 345hp, hauled Dimitri's 
(formerly Dimitri's I guess) 240D 200 odd miles no problem while returning 
15mpg in a 4 door 4wd pickup. In a car it'd be a rocket.
Any hoopty made after about 2000 is going to be pretty reliable, anything 10 
years old is either junk or has the issues worked out. As with anything look 
for records and inspect condition carefully.
-Curt

  From: Donald Snook via Mercedes 
 To: Kaleb C. Striplin ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
Cc: Donald Snook 
 Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 4:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (sort of) Chrysler 300
   
Yea. I knew that.  I was wondering about other things and whether they were 
reliable.  

-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 11:31 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (sort of) Chrysler 300

They use the mb transmission in those I believe

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 28, 2016, at 10:50 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Anybody know much about the first few years of the modern Chrysler 300?  I 
> know the first few years had a lot of Mercedes components.  I saw an ad for a 
> 2005 Chrysler 300C (with the 5.7 hemi) and am wondering about reliability.  
> 
> Donald H. Snook
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 98 Jetta new high

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Thats a Mk III car and it seems like they're designed to rust. They've got 
these like 4" round rubber plugs in the underbody. They rust around the edge 
and the plug falls out. Water gets into the carpet and accelerates the rust. I 
took some thin plastic and glued it over the holes on the inside with RTV. I've 
been keeping an eye on them and the holes don't seem to be getting larger. 
Unfortunately the rockers were already rusted out when I got the car, I welded 
a bunch back in but its getting so the rockers are all patch and no original 
metal. Consider the old computer cases I use for patches the patch material is 
stronger than the base metal but still...
A friend and I have discussed transplanting a TDI engine into a Suzuki 
offroader. Whoever gets a Suzuki first gets to use the engine from my car. He 
thought he had one on the line recently so I started looking for replacements. 
Found a same-year Passat for $2200, looked mostly rust free, I should have gone 
and looked at it...
-Curt

  From: Kevin Kraly 
 To: "curtlud...@yahoo.com" ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 3:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 98 Jetta new high
   
Stop driving it! There's so much metal rusting away that it affected the fuel 
economy that much :). Seriously, congrats and attaboy!!
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 

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> On Aug 28, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Lots of car discussion lately...The other day I refuelled the 98 Jetta and 
> calculated just over 54 mpg. It'd had a mix of city and highway over 2 or 3 
> weeks. I've got the summer tires on and have been keeping close tabs on tire 
> pressure, running 40psi. The car rides hard anyway, the extra pressure 
> doesn't effect it much, it's got sport seats from a K2 Jetta...
> It's been a good car but the tin worm is getting serious. I'm thinking one 
> more year and it's done. There's not much to weld to in the rockers anymore...
> 
> Curt
> 
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Re: [MBZ] WAS 606 non turbo egr valve / W140 Issues

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

It is calling your name Don.  You needta buy it from Dan.


Donald Snook via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 3:11 PM
Nice job, Dan! Now you have to go be nice to the 140 for all your 
negative thoughts about it.


Don Snook





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Re: [MBZ] OM616 transfer pump and primer; 123 LUST; ANTI1992 up

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Cheep Crapsman wood.   I intend to use it to make a stair rail adapter, 
then sell it.  Got any turning chisels you don't need?




Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 2:39 PM
What kind of lathe?

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Re: [MBZ] WAS 606 non turbo egr valve / W140 Issues

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Nice job, Dan!  Now you have to go be nice to the 140 for all your negative 
thoughts about it.  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 8:19 AM
To: Mercedes List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS 606 non turbo egr valve / W140 Issues

The used EZL (ignition module) came in yesterday’s mail, but rather than tempt 
fate and run out and install it, I waited until this morning.

Swapped out the EZL, fired it up, ran like new.

Score one for the DAS/HHT.

Thanks to all who offered suggestions and support.

Now to start looking for another nice W126 or W124 diesel…. (s - don’t let 
the W140 hear me say that!)

Dan



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Re: [MBZ] Passing the Pipe?

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Yes, the price is high.  But, not completely insane.  I could see someone 
spending $7500-8000 on this.  It is in spectacular condition and with service 
records, it could be an amazing car.  The only 123 diesels I have ever driven 
had 345K and 400+K,  I wouldn't know what one of these is like with that few 
miles.  That's only about 2500 miles per year.  

-Original Message-
From: Curley McLain [mailto:126die...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 8:41 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Passing the Pipe?

That one is calling KALEB  It is green!

> dan--- via Mercedes  August 28, 2016 at 
> 5:56 AM Between some of the CL listers this week?
>
> http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5754018222.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT (sort of) Chrysler 300

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Yea. I knew that.  I was wondering about other things and whether they were 
reliable.  

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Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 11:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (sort of) Chrysler 300

They use the mb transmission in those I believe

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> On Aug 28, 2016, at 10:50 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Anybody know much about the first few years of the modern Chrysler 300?  I 
> know the first few years had a lot of Mercedes components.  I saw an ad for a 
> 2005 Chrysler 300C (with the 5.7 hemi) and am wondering about reliability.  
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 98 Jetta new high

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Stop driving it! There's so much metal rusting away that it affected the fuel 
economy that much :). Seriously, congrats and attaboy!!
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 

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> On Aug 28, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Lots of car discussion lately...The other day I refuelled the 98 Jetta and 
> calculated just over 54 mpg. It'd had a mix of city and highway over 2 or 3 
> weeks. I've got the summer tires on and have been keeping close tabs on tire 
> pressure, running 40psi. The car rides hard anyway, the extra pressure 
> doesn't effect it much, it's got sport seats from a K2 Jetta...
> It's been a good car but the tin worm is getting serious. I'm thinking one 
> more year and it's done. There's not much to weld to in the rockers anymore...
> 
> Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OM616 transfer pump and primer; 123 LUST; ANTI1992 up

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

What kind of lathe?

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On 8/28/16 3:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Yesterday I had to go ~60 miles to pick up a lathe. 


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Re: [MBZ] The real economy

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Yes, that is the link.  It starts about 18:00

http://whoradio.iheart.com/media/play/27218614/

Mountain Man via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 2:21 PM

Give us the link? - http://whoradio.iheart.com/media/play/27218614/
Will this make it thru to msm?
Thanks.
mao



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Re: [MBZ] Holy mother of god

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Do not adjust your set

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On 8/28/16 3:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

The color difference with the trim. The trim will of course be faded but the 
seats look electric '80s green by comparison. I suspect they're even brighter 
in person.

Curt

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   On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:   Kaleb wrote:

I was all prepared to come up with the cash to buy this until I saw the
horrible seat covers

They seem to be nice looking for most ebay customers.  ...including
me.  Education me on what you see that is dead give away that these
are cheep covers?
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

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Curley wrote:
> If it is any consolation, I won't eat anything called "Cherry" unless...

Try this when your wallet is fat:
http://www.edenfoods.com/store/cherry-butter-montmorency-tart-organic.html
It is an occasional purchase for me.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OM616 transfer pump and primer; 123 LUST; ANTI1992 up

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

you can include me in the anti-1992 up MB list with Dan and Kleb.  I 
have deliberately avoided these newer cars.



But I will admit in 7-14 years, or whenever they get cheap, I might be 
interested in the Metris (Vito) van as a replacement for Dogde.  I 
suspect though, that I will probably stick with Dogde.


123 LUST:
Yesterday I had to go ~60 miles to pick up a lathe.  On the way, I went 
past an auction.  On the way back, I stopped to see what was selling.  
In the parking rows, I saw a pretty decent (100 yard) 123.   It was a 
late model 300D and looked pretty well preserved.  However some rust was 
beginning to show, but still for a 31+ year old car, it looked pretty good.


About 10 yrs ago, I was gonna dump the 240Ds to go with more modern 
stuff.  But as I thought about it, the plan is to hang out winters in a 
warm place, then hang out summers as a Yuper.  In either case, other 
than the trek from north to south and vice versa (likely made in the van 
to haul stuff) the only need for wheels is to drive to town (N) or odd 
jobs, or to drive around town(S) with an occasional trip of ~125 mi 
R/T.   Add to that something that won't depreciate, and something that 
can sit in a garage for up to 9 months at a time, and the ironhead 
DIesels stand out.  The 240D is adequate for a 25 to 75 mile radius, so 
it made sense to keep them.  The white one is destined for S and the 81 
is destined for N.  240Ds are simpler and easier to work on than even a 
123 300D.  The Quantum also did well sitting for 1-2 years at a time, 
then firing up and running all over the country, as did the Escort 
Diesel.  But Quantums and Escorts are pretty much extinct.  That leaves 
the 240Ds as "Ideal" for this use.



Mountain Man via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 2:04 PM

Thanks you Curley and Rick.
The objective is sinister. We want more lust for W123 since both Dan
and okieKleb are wanting out from W140 computer systems. $1k for
computer? - sounds like luxury german automobile poor-engineering,
whereas W123 still seems to be well-engineered practical wheels for
common folk and taxi.
mao

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Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
August 27, 2016 at 11:03 PM

I'll post a pic of an old one and a new one when I get home. Maybe 
I'll make a quick video


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] The real economy

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Curley wrote:
> http://www.shadowstats.com/article/c810x.pdf
>
> Peter Fererro on Simon Conway, Hour 1, 8/9/16 near the end of the hour:

Give us the link? - http://whoradio.iheart.com/media/play/27218614/
Will this make it thru to msm?
Thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] Holy mother of god

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The color difference with the trim. The trim will of course be faded but the 
seats look electric '80s green by comparison. I suspect they're even brighter 
in person.

Curt

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  On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Mountain Man via 
Mercedes wrote:   Kaleb wrote:
> I was all prepared to come up with the cash to buy this until I saw the
> horrible seat covers

They seem to be nice looking for most ebay customers.  ...including
me.  Education me on what you see that is dead give away that these
are cheep covers?
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Holy mother of god

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Kaleb wrote:
> I was all prepared to come up with the cash to buy this until I saw the
> horrible seat covers

They seem to be nice looking for most ebay customers.   ...including
me.  Education me on what you see that is dead give away that these
are cheep covers?
Thanks.
mao

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[MBZ] Barum Tars (and Goferem)

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

If y'all remember, the Barum tars were iron curtain versions of 
Continental tars.Yesterday I was looking at a display of antique 
tractors.  Most of these have tires made by Titan, badyear or Farstone, 
This summer I saw one with cheepchineechit tars.   Yesterday, I saw one 
tractor with Barum tars.I thought that was interesting.  Maybe 
discount tar direct also sells tractor tars?


Still waiting for longevity reports for andy's Goferem cheepchineechit 
tars and for the Barum ex-commie tars.


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Re: [MBZ] OM616 transfer pump and primer

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Rick wrote:
> I'll post a pic of an old one and a new one when I get home. Maybe I'll make 
> a quick video

Thanks you Curley and Rick.
The objective is sinister.  We want more lust for W123 since both Dan
and okieKleb are wanting out from W140 computer systems.  $1k for
computer? - sounds like luxury german automobile poor-engineering,
whereas W123 still seems to be well-engineered practical wheels for
common folk and taxi.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

On late model TDIs they ruin MAF sensors. Even a very slight over oiling kills 
a $150+ sensor.
I ran one in my Dakota for awhile, I could see no real performance or economy 
gain. I'd like to try blind tests to see if somebody could tell. Kid next door 
has a Mustang, I wonder if he'd be into the idea.
Curt

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Mercedes wrote:   >
> I had the one that fit inside the stock air box. Anything providing higher
> ambient air pressure at the inlet to the turbo is going to provide better
> performance. This is why all those turbocharged drag cars run without air
> cleaners. If you try that filter and drive with your foot on the floor you
> will notice the difference.



> I think K filters are garbage, but they do enhance performance at the
> expense of less filtration.


> On Aug 27, 2016 3:07 PM, "fmiser via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
>
>> > Karl wrote:
>> >
>> > What you're saying about ambient inlet pressure making no
>> > difference on a turbocharged engine is not quite correct.
>>
>> > ...the turbo operates on a pressure ratio. The lower the ambient
>> > pressure at the turbo inlet, the longer it takes for the turbo to
>> > spool, because it is feeding the engine less air at each rpm than
>> > it otherwise would.
>>
>> Ah!  You are talking about rapid increase in engine RPM.  I was
>> referring to power output - sustained.
>>
>> So, if you man "it takes longer for the turbo to build pressure"
>> rather than "it takes longer for the turbo to spool" - I fully
>> agree.
>>
>> > So a less restrictive filter results in faster spool. I also
>> > found that top end performance was improved, with a higher max
>> > rpm at max throttle. Is isn't even subtle. Taking off from a
>> > stoplight is a different experience.
>>
>> Hmm.  That doesn't match my experience with various diesel turbo
>> engines.  But if your experiences were otherwise, who am I to argue!
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT (sort of) Chrysler 300

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

It was kind of spitting snow so I needed the wipers off and on. Aggravating, if 
I hadn't needed them I could have just pushed then away from the windshield...
My 190D stranded me with a bad wheel bearing twice, once on each side. No 
warning, one even shot off the cap never to be found... On the plus side that's 
when I learned to replace wheel bearings .
Curt

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Mercedes wrote:   Why not just pop out the FUSE if you 
didn't need wipers?

I've driven my SDLs and other DIesels all over.  Never been stranded 
far from home or a line shack so far.  For many years I was putting 
50,000 miles a year on the SDL, and more on other vehicles.

> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> August 28, 2016 at 12:31 PM
> I drove my '83 240D 70 miles home from Boston with wipers that 
> wouldn't shut off... Started carrying deoxit in the car for a quick 
> fix. Eventually got it clean enough it never did it again.
> Anybody wants to live with a car 10+ years old really needs to be a 
> home-gamer, otherwise you'll get nickel and dimed to death.
> Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT Who wants it?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

>
> I had the one that fit inside the stock air box. Anything providing higher
> ambient air pressure at the inlet to the turbo is going to provide better
> performance. This is why all those turbocharged drag cars run without air
> cleaners. If you try that filter and drive with your foot on the floor you
> will notice the difference.



> I think K filters are garbage, but they do enhance performance at the
> expense of less filtration.


> On Aug 27, 2016 3:07 PM, "fmiser via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
>
>> > Karl wrote:
>> >
>> > What you're saying about ambient inlet pressure making no
>> > difference on a turbocharged engine is not quite correct.
>>
>> > ...the turbo operates on a pressure ratio. The lower the ambient
>> > pressure at the turbo inlet, the longer it takes for the turbo to
>> > spool, because it is feeding the engine less air at each rpm than
>> > it otherwise would.
>>
>> Ah!   You are talking about rapid increase in engine RPM.  I was
>> referring to power output - sustained.
>>
>> So, if you man "it takes longer for the turbo to build pressure"
>> rather than "it takes longer for the turbo to spool" - I fully
>> agree.
>>
>> > So a less restrictive filter results in faster spool. I also
>> > found that top end performance was improved, with a higher max
>> > rpm at max throttle. Is isn't even subtle. Taking off from a
>> > stoplight is a different experience.
>>
>> Hmm.  That doesn't match my experience with various diesel turbo
>> engines.  But if your experiences were otherwise, who am I to argue!
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT (sort of) Chrysler 300

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Why not just pop out the FUSE if you didn't need wipers?

I've driven my SDLs and other DIesels all over.   Never been stranded 
far from home or a line shack so far.  For many years I was putting 
50,000 miles a year on the SDL, and more on other vehicles.



Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 12:31 PM
I drove my '83 240D 70 miles home from Boston with wipers that 
wouldn't shut off... Started carrying deoxit in the car for a quick 
fix. Eventually got it clean enough it never did it again.
Anybody wants to live with a car 10+ years old really needs to be a 
home-gamer, otherwise you'll get nickel and dimed to death.

Curt


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[MBZ] 98 Jetta new high

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Lots of car discussion lately...The other day I refuelled the 98 Jetta and 
calculated just over 54 mpg. It'd had a mix of city and highway over 2 or 3 
weeks. I've got the summer tires on and have been keeping close tabs on tire 
pressure, running 40psi. The car rides hard anyway, the extra pressure doesn't 
effect it much, it's got sport seats from a K2 Jetta...
It's been a good car but the tin worm is getting serious. I'm thinking one more 
year and it's done. There's not much to weld to in the rockers anymore...

Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT (sort of) Chrysler 300

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I drove my '83 240D 70 miles home from Boston with wipers that wouldn't shut 
off... Started carrying deoxit in the car for a quick fix. Eventually got it 
clean enough it never did it again.
Anybody wants to live with a car 10+ years old really needs to be a home-gamer, 
otherwise you'll get nickel and dimed to death.
Curt
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  On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Curley McLain via 
Mercedes wrote:   I don't remember what year it was, but 
one I drove at the auction would 
roll down the passenger window when you turned right.  When I commented 
about it after I parked it, they pointed to another one and said "that 
one does the same thing!"

so, if it has manual windows, I'd say go fer it, but with electric 
windows, I'd at least check with stealer service managers you know.  
Electrical problems can be very expensive to fix.  (or not)


If you are driving one when it is 20 below and it puts the window down 
and you can't get it up, that is a serious problem.  Potentially 
dangerous if you are 100 miles out of Hays.
> Donald Snook via Mercedes 
> August 28, 2016 at 10:50 AM
> Anybody know much about the first few years of the modern Chrysler 
> 300? I know the first few years had a lot of Mercedes components. I 
> saw an ad for a 2005 Chrysler 300C (with the 5.7 hemi) and am 
> wondering about reliability.
>
> Donald H. Snook
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 11:08 AM
We send all that stuff to PA!

NJ is 4th for peach production 2015:
http://www.statista.com/statistics/193929/top-10-peach-producing-us-states/


On Sunday, August 28, 2016, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <


If Joisey is so great, how come everybody tries to get out?
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Re: [MBZ] OT (sort of) Chrysler 300

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I don't remember what year it was, but one I drove at the auction would 
roll down the passenger window when you turned right.  When I commented 
about it after I parked it, they pointed to another one and said "that 
one does the same thing!"


so, if it has manual windows, I'd say go fer it, but with electric 
windows, I'd at least check with stealer service managers you know.   
Electrical problems can be very expensive to fix.  (or not)



If you are driving one when it is 20 below and it puts the window down 
and you can't get it up, that is a serious problem.  Potentially 
dangerous if you are 100 miles out of Hays.

Donald Snook via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 10:50 AM
Anybody know much about the first few years of the modern Chrysler 
300? I know the first few years had a lot of Mercedes components. I 
saw an ad for a 2005 Chrysler 300C (with the 5.7 hemi) and am 
wondering about reliability.


Donald H. Snook




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Re: [MBZ] Boat Angel Ministry 2006 E350 with bad Trans

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Yeah but if someone has a tranny sitting around, pop it in then flip it 
maybe


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On 8/28/16 8:30 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes wrote:

Went for more than it should have I think! 256,000 miles

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361690796501?ul_noapp=true

Bob Massmann
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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

A local farmer's market is always the best place to buy fruit and veg. Get 
stuff that was picked ripe and recent...

Curt

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  On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 7:00 AM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:   The peaches here have been absolutely fantastic this year!  NORTH 
Carolina. 
;<)

In years past, though, I have bought some (usually at Sam's) that have been 
worthless - hard, tasteless, etc.  Musta been from CA or somewhere else 
foreign.  'Have been especially careful this year not to waste my money on 
that crap.

W

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Rich Thomas" 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches


> The peaches this year have been great.
>
> --R (sent from my miniPad)
>
> On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:58 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> I grew up with local Strawberries, cherries, blueberries, apples, peaches, 
> plums, pears, and on a good year, apricots.  Our own peaches were always 
> best, and IL peaches next best, and MO peaches in third.
>
> Living in HI, we had none of these available.  One time I decided the CO 
> peaches looked good, so I bought a few.  They were terrible, absolutely 
> dry cardboard, no juice, no flavor.  Now a homegrown peach, or IL or MO 
> peach would be so juicy the juice ran down your chin and down your arms to 
> the elbow, where it ran off.
>
> Here, the best we have been able to do is MO peaches with no variety 
> identification.  But still they are flavorful and juicy.  Not run to your 
> elbows juicy, but tasty, none the less.
>
> Rich and Max were braggin about Carolina peaches a few weeks ago.  When 
> the store here ran out of MO peaches, I looked at CO, CA and whatever else 
> they had, and decided, on Rich's recommendation to try the Carolina 
> peaches.
>
> WOW!  they were dry as cardboard, and had nearly the same flavor! 
> Terrible!  Absolutely TERRIBLE!  They looked pretty, but were dry as a 
> bone , hard and had no flavor.  The ones I tried to let ripen and soften 
> some turned brown inside, but they were too dry to rot.  They were even 
> worse than those awful CO peaches I tried in HI!
>
> Well, at least the strawberries in the store are still tolerable.  Nowhere 
> near the juiciness and flavor of real strawberries, but they are 
> tolerable.  I wonder who buys the cardboard peaches in the grocery 
> stores.  It has to be people who have never tasted a real peach.
>
> So, Rich and Max:  Bah!  Your peaches are awful!
>
> If it is any consolation, I won't eat anything called "Cherry" unless I 
> made it with real fresh tart cherries, or frozen tart cherries.  The 
> sheeple are so stupid that they think cherry tastes like cough syrup, so 
> all the "cherry" products may be made with real cherries, but they are 
> flavored with maraschino cherry flavor mixed with cough syrup flavor to 
> make an awful glop.  Eating the cherries right in the tree was best! 
> I'd usually eat 4 to 6 lb of strawberries in the patch too.  That was 
> GOOOD stuff!
>
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[MBZ] diesel casket wagon

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

With a Mercedes mention

http://jalopnik.com/if-i-die-before-i-wake-send-me-off-in-this-maserati-1785837779


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Re: [MBZ] Passing the Pipe?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

No hole in the roof  what a deal... just priced on the high side of
"unreal", for a 300D.

To new to be a collector car... to old to be new... Color and interior are
a good combination..

Go for it Kaleb... ;))

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> That one is calling KALEB  It is green!
>
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>> August 28, 2016 at 5:56 AM
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They use the mb transmission in those I believe

Sent from my iPhone

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> 
> Anybody know much about the first few years of the modern Chrysler 300?  I 
> know the first few years had a lot of Mercedes components.  I saw an ad for a 
> 2005 Chrysler 300C (with the 5.7 hemi) and am wondering about reliability.  
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Well just to placate y'all I peeled and sliced 2 Salkerlina peaches for 
my Sunday brunch and I can report they were sweet and juicy and had an 
excellent flavor.


I made some breakfast tacos with some fresh corn tortillas I bought from 
some girl at the farmers market yesterday, she started a little business 
grinding fresh corn and making the tortillas.  They are really tasty.


--FT

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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

We send all that stuff to PA!

NJ is 4th for peach production 2015:
http://www.statista.com/statistics/193929/top-10-peach-producing-us-states/


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> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 7:21 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>
> >
> > NJ is one of the larger peach producing states... We are the garden
> state,
> > after all.
> >
>
> Only because "Toxic Waste Dump Site State"  doesn't fit on a licence
> plate.  3:)
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[MBZ] OT (sort of) Chrysler 300

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Anybody know much about the first few years of the modern Chrysler 300?  I know 
the first few years had a lot of Mercedes components.  I saw an ad for a 2005 
Chrysler 300C (with the 5.7 hemi) and am wondering about reliability.  

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ATTABOY Dan

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On Aug 28, 2016 9:19 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
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> Score one for the DAS/HHT.
>
> Thanks to all who offered suggestions and support.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

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On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 7:21 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> NJ is one of the larger peach producing states... We are the garden state,
> after all.
>

Only because "Toxic Waste Dump Site State"  doesn't fit on a licence
plate.  3:)

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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

My neighbor who has the farmstand at the end of my driveway goes to the 
farmer's market in Columbia a coupla times a week to get stuff that 
doesn't/won't grow here (tomatoes are now past here, 2nd crop coming 
later, so he's getting them from NC now I think) and picks up peaches 
which come from SC orchards, or maybe NC now, so they are fairly fresh 
off the trees, and probably get here within 2-3 days of picking.  Lately 
the peaches have been those big ones, and not entirely ripe, but they 
ripen up OK in a coupla days in a paper bag.  The first ones this year 
were right off the trees in SC and have been wonderful.


--FT


On 8/28/16 10:17 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

The crap peaches here were from NORTH carolina!

Unfortunately, grocery distribution systems don't care if the crap 
they sell is any good.   The bean counters only look at "shrink" and 
margins.   Any peach worth eating will have some bruising, but the 
bean counters can;t have that.  On occasion, if you deal in good 
peaches,  you will get some that don't keep well and have to be thrown 
out.  The grocery mentality can't handle that.


The problem is really not the source, but the grocery mentality. I 
just wanted to razz y'all NORTH and SOUTH Carolinians!


If you find a grocery store that has GOOD peaches, you have found a 
GOOD produce manager and a good store system that lets the store buy 
peaches and other perishables directly from the grower/trucker.  The 
BAD/normal system forces them to buy the warehouse crap, and there is 
never a good peach that goes through the grocery warehouse.



WILTON via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 9:00 AM
The peaches here have been absolutely fantastic this year! NORTH 
Carolina. ;<)


In years past, though, I have bought some (usually at Sam's) that 
have been worthless - hard, tasteless, etc.  Musta been from CA or 
somewhere else foreign.  'Have been especially careful this year not 
to waste my money on that crap.


W


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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The crap peaches here were from NORTH carolina!

Unfortunately, grocery distribution systems don't care if the crap they 
sell is any good.   The bean counters only look at "shrink" and 
margins.   Any peach worth eating will have some bruising, but the bean 
counters can;t have that.  On occasion, if you deal in good peaches,  
you will get some that don't keep well and have to be thrown out.  The 
grocery mentality can't handle that.


The problem is really not the source, but the grocery mentality.   I 
just wanted to razz y'all NORTH and SOUTH Carolinians!


If you find a grocery store that has GOOD peaches, you have found a GOOD 
produce manager and a good store system that lets the store buy peaches 
and other perishables directly from the grower/trucker.  The BAD/normal 
system forces them to buy the warehouse crap, and there is never a good 
peach that goes through the grocery warehouse.



WILTON via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 9:00 AM
The peaches here have been absolutely fantastic this year!   NORTH 
Carolina. ;<)


In years past, though, I have bought some (usually at Sam's) that have 
been worthless - hard, tasteless, etc.  Musta been from CA or 
somewhere else foreign.  'Have been especially careful this year not 
to waste my money on that crap.


W


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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

[WILTON via Mercedes]

The peaches here have been absolutely fantastic this year!   NORTH Carolina. 
;<)


In years past, though, I have bought some (usually at Sam's) that have been 
worthless - hard, tasteless, etc.  Musta been from CA or somewhere else 
foreign.  'Have been especially careful this year not to waste my money on 
that crap.


W

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Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches



The peaches this year have been great.

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:58 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:


I grew up with local Strawberries, cherries, blueberries, apples, peaches, 
plums, pears, and on a good year, apricots.  Our own peaches were always 
best, and IL peaches next best, and MO peaches in third.


Living in HI, we had none of these available.  One time I decided the CO 
peaches looked good, so I bought a few.  They were terrible, absolutely 
dry cardboard, no juice, no flavor.  Now a homegrown peach, or IL or MO 
peach would be so juicy the juice ran down your chin and down your arms to 
the elbow, where it ran off.


Here, the best we have been able to do is MO peaches with no variety 
identification.   But still they are flavorful and juicy.  Not run to your 
elbows juicy, but tasty, none the less.


Rich and Max were braggin about Carolina peaches a few weeks ago.  When 
the store here ran out of MO peaches, I looked at CO, CA and whatever else 
they had, and decided, on Rich's recommendation to try the Carolina 
peaches.


WOW!  they were dry as cardboard, and had nearly the same flavor! 
Terrible!  Absolutely TERRIBLE!  They looked pretty, but were dry as a 
bone , hard and had no flavor.  The ones I tried to let ripen and soften 
some turned brown inside, but they were too dry to rot.  They were even 
worse than those awful CO peaches I tried in HI!


Well, at least the strawberries in the store are still tolerable.  Nowhere 
near the juiciness and flavor of real strawberries, but they are 
tolerable.   I wonder who buys the cardboard peaches in the grocery 
stores.  It has to be people who have never tasted a real peach.


So, Rich and Max:  Bah!  Your peaches are awful!

If it is any consolation, I won't eat anything called "Cherry" unless I 
made it with real fresh tart cherries, or frozen tart cherries.   The 
sheeple are so stupid that they think cherry tastes like cough syrup, so 
all the "cherry" products may be made with real cherries, but they are 
flavored with maraschino cherry flavor mixed with cough syrup flavor to 
make an awful glop.   Eating the cherries right in the tree was best! 
I'd usually eat 4 to 6 lb of strawberries in the patch too.   That was 
GOOOD stuff!


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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Jaaaja peaches may be ok if you get them tree ripened at the orchard, 
but west of the Mississippi, they are garbage.  Very few stores even 
bother to stock them.


The problem with  everything in the grocery store is that it is picked 
too green, unless it is a fruit or vegetable that keeps well, like 
radishes or carrots.


Peaches are the most delicate fruit to ship, but they can be picked, 
packed and shipped with minimal bruising.  They can't be stored too 
cold.  A normal cooler is too cold.   The state health dept won't let 
you run a cooler at the proper temp for peaches, so they are mishandled 
once they get to a store.  Generally, the peach needs to be sold within 
a week of picking, and the grocery warehouse/distribution systems don't 
move that fast.


The MO peaches we get are hauled from the orchards to the store.  No 
warehouse.  The truck comes through once or twice a week, so they stay 
fresh, with minimal losses.   Most of the MO peaches are grown in the 
bootheel, so the trip is about 500 -600 miles.  one day's drive, then 
they go into store stops for probably 2-3 days.  You can get in about 20 
store deliveries in a day.


Joisey peaches?   You gotta be kidding!  no way! not here!


archer75--- via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 8:33 AM
Surprisingly, no one has mentioned Georgia Peaches which are the world 
standard for taste and other qualities. Georgia Peach Wine always 
takes first prize at wine tastings. Supposedly eating Georgia peaches 
is the reason Georgia women are some of the most beautiful in the 
world. It's why they are often called "Georgia Peaches".

Gerry

On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 09:10:15 -0400


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 8:10 AM
If they are picked green they ripen into strawlike mush or a rubbery
crispness. Especially those HUGE CA nectarines.

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Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 7:21 AM
I'd guess they have different varieties for export/travel to other
locations, and these are most certainly worse than others.

I refuse to purchase peaches anywhere other than my local stand in Chester
NJ. They're outstanding, currently $25 for a half bushel. I'm on my third
box this month.

These peaches will not travel well, however. Even before they're ripe you
have to be careful with them.

NJ is one of the larger peach producing states... We are the garden state,
after all.

I believe they're selling Lorie peach right now, but I could be wrong.

Jaime
-just finished splitting another tractor cart load of wood


On Saturday, August 27, 2016, Curley McLain via Mercedes <

Curley McLain 
August 27, 2016 at 9:58 PM
I grew up with local Strawberries, cherries, blueberries, apples, 
peaches, plums, pears, and on a good year, apricots.  Our own peaches 
were always best, and IL peaches next best, and MO peaches in third.


Living in HI, we had none of these available.  One time I decided the 
CO peaches looked good, so I bought a few.  They were terrible, 
absolutely dry cardboard, no juice, no flavor.  Now a homegrown peach, 
or IL or MO peach would be so juicy the juice ran down your chin and 
down your arms to the elbow, where it ran off.


Here, the best we have been able to do is MO peaches with no variety 
identification.   But still they are flavorful and juicy.  Not run to 
your elbows juicy, but tasty, none the less.


Rich and Max were braggin about Carolina peaches a few weeks ago.  
When the store here ran out of MO peaches, I looked at CO, CA and 
whatever else they had, and decided, on Rich's recommendation to try 
the Carolina peaches.


WOW!  they were dry as cardboard, and had nearly the same flavor!  
Terrible!  Absolutely TERRIBLE!  They looked pretty, but were dry as a 
bone , hard and had no flavor.  The ones I tried to let ripen and 
soften some turned brown inside, but they were too dry to rot.  They 
were even worse than those awful CO peaches I tried in HI!


Well, at least the strawberries in the store are still tolerable.  
Nowhere near the juiciness and flavor of real strawberries, but they 
are tolerable.   I wonder who buys the cardboard peaches in the 
grocery stores.  It has to be people who have never tasted a real peach.


So, Rich and Max:  Bah!  Your peaches are awful!

If it is any consolation, I won't eat anything called "Cherry" unless 
I made it with real fresh tart cherries, or frozen tart cherries.   
The sheeple are so stupid that they think cherry tastes like cough 
syrup, so all the "cherry" products may be made with real cherries, 
but they are flavored with maraschino cherry flavor mixed with 

Re: [MBZ] WAS 606 non turbo egr valve / W140 Issues

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Waytago!


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 8:19 AM
The used EZL (ignition module) came in yesterday’s mail, but rather 
than tempt fate and run out and install it, I waited until this morning.


Swapped out the EZL, fired it up, ran like new.

Score one for the DAS/HHT.

Thanks to all who offered suggestions and support.

Now to start looking for another nice W126 or W124 diesel…. (s - 
don’t let the W140 hear me say that!)


Dan


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Re: [MBZ] Passing the Pipe?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

That one is calling KALEB  It is green!


dan--- via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 5:56 AM
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[MBZ] The real economy

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The real economy can be found here.  Shadowstats.com

True unemployment:  23%  (using the old system of calculation from 
before the clinton crime org. and the bummers corrupted it)


http://www.shadowstats.com/article/c810x.pdf

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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Surprisingly, no one has mentioned Georgia Peaches which are the world standard 
for taste and other qualities. Georgia Peach Wine always takes first prize at 
wine tastings. Supposedly eating Georgia peaches is the reason Georgia women 
are some of the most beautiful in the world. It's why they are often called 
"Georgia Peaches".
Gerry

On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 09:10:15 -0400
Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  wrote:

> If they are picked green they ripen into strawlike mush or a rubbery
> crispness.  Especially those HUGE CA nectarines.
> 
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > I'd guess they have different varieties for export/travel to other
> > locations, and these are most certainly worse than others.
> >
> > I refuse to purchase peaches anywhere other than my local stand in Chester
> > NJ.  They're outstanding, currently $25 for a half bushel.  I'm on my third
> > box this month.
> >
> > These peaches will not travel well, however.  Even before they're ripe you
> > have to be careful with them.
> >
> > NJ is one of the larger peach producing states... We are the garden state,
> > after all.
> >
> > I believe they're selling Lorie peach right now, but I could be wrong.
> >
> > Jaime
> > -just finished splitting another tractor cart load of wood
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, August 27, 2016, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I grew up with local Strawberries, cherries, blueberries, apples,
> > peaches,
> > > plums, pears, and on a good year, apricots.  Our own peaches were always
> > > best, and IL peaches next best, and MO peaches in third.
> > >
> > > Living in HI, we had none of these available.  One time I decided the CO
> > > peaches looked good, so I bought a few.  They were terrible, absolutely
> > dry
> > > cardboard, no juice, no flavor.  Now a homegrown peach, or IL or MO peach
> > > would be so juicy the juice ran down your chin and down your arms to the
> > > elbow, where it ran off.
> > >
> > > Here, the best we have been able to do is MO peaches with no variety
> > > identification.   But still they are flavorful and juicy.  Not run to
> > your
> > > elbows juicy, but tasty, none the less.
> > >
> > > Rich and Max were braggin about Carolina peaches a few weeks ago.  When
> > > the store here ran out of MO peaches, I looked at CO, CA and whatever
> > else
> > > they had, and decided, on Rich's recommendation to try the Carolina
> > peaches.
> > >
> > > WOW!  they were dry as cardboard, and had nearly the same flavor!
> > > Terrible!  Absolutely TERRIBLE!  They looked pretty, but were dry as a
> > bone
> > > , hard and had no flavor.  The ones I tried to let ripen and soften some
> > > turned brown inside, but they were too dry to rot.  They were even worse
> > > than those awful CO peaches I tried in HI!
> > >
> > > Well, at least the strawberries in the store are still tolerable.
> > Nowhere
> > > near the juiciness and flavor of real strawberries, but they are
> > > tolerable.   I wonder who buys the cardboard peaches in the grocery
> > > stores.  It has to be people who have never tasted a real peach.
> > >
> > > So, Rich and Max:  Bah!  Your peaches are awful!
> > >
> > > If it is any consolation, I won't eat anything called "Cherry" unless I
> > > made it with real fresh tart cherries, or frozen tart cherries.   The
> > > sheeple are so stupid that they think cherry tastes like cough syrup, so
> > > all the "cherry" products may be made with real cherries, but they are
> > > flavored with maraschino cherry flavor mixed with cough syrup flavor to
> > > make an awful glop.   Eating the cherries right in the tree was best!
> >  I'd
> > > usually eat 4 to 6 lb of strawberries in the patch too.   That was GOOOD
> > > stuff!
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Re: [MBZ] WAS 606 non turbo egr valve / W140 Issues

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The used EZL (ignition module) came in yesterday’s mail, but rather than tempt 
fate and run out and install it, I waited until this morning.

Swapped out the EZL, fired it up, ran like new.

Score one for the DAS/HHT.

Thanks to all who offered suggestions and support.

Now to start looking for another nice W126 or W124 diesel…. (s - don’t let 
the W140 hear me say that!)

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Re: [MBZ] Passing the Pipe?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Might be a good investment for about $7500.

On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Nice paint.
> First time I've ever seen a 123 with all the keys.
> Yeah priced too high for anybody outside of Jerkski.
> Mitch.
>
> > On August 28, 2016 at 6:56 AM dan--- via Mercedes  >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Between some of the CL listers this week?
> >
> > http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5754018222.html
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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

If they are picked green they ripen into strawlike mush or a rubbery
crispness.  Especially those HUGE CA nectarines.

On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'd guess they have different varieties for export/travel to other
> locations, and these are most certainly worse than others.
>
> I refuse to purchase peaches anywhere other than my local stand in Chester
> NJ.  They're outstanding, currently $25 for a half bushel.  I'm on my third
> box this month.
>
> These peaches will not travel well, however.  Even before they're ripe you
> have to be careful with them.
>
> NJ is one of the larger peach producing states... We are the garden state,
> after all.
>
> I believe they're selling Lorie peach right now, but I could be wrong.
>
> Jaime
> -just finished splitting another tractor cart load of wood
>
>
> On Saturday, August 27, 2016, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I grew up with local Strawberries, cherries, blueberries, apples,
> peaches,
> > plums, pears, and on a good year, apricots.  Our own peaches were always
> > best, and IL peaches next best, and MO peaches in third.
> >
> > Living in HI, we had none of these available.  One time I decided the CO
> > peaches looked good, so I bought a few.  They were terrible, absolutely
> dry
> > cardboard, no juice, no flavor.  Now a homegrown peach, or IL or MO peach
> > would be so juicy the juice ran down your chin and down your arms to the
> > elbow, where it ran off.
> >
> > Here, the best we have been able to do is MO peaches with no variety
> > identification.   But still they are flavorful and juicy.  Not run to
> your
> > elbows juicy, but tasty, none the less.
> >
> > Rich and Max were braggin about Carolina peaches a few weeks ago.  When
> > the store here ran out of MO peaches, I looked at CO, CA and whatever
> else
> > they had, and decided, on Rich's recommendation to try the Carolina
> peaches.
> >
> > WOW!  they were dry as cardboard, and had nearly the same flavor!
> > Terrible!  Absolutely TERRIBLE!  They looked pretty, but were dry as a
> bone
> > , hard and had no flavor.  The ones I tried to let ripen and soften some
> > turned brown inside, but they were too dry to rot.  They were even worse
> > than those awful CO peaches I tried in HI!
> >
> > Well, at least the strawberries in the store are still tolerable.
> Nowhere
> > near the juiciness and flavor of real strawberries, but they are
> > tolerable.   I wonder who buys the cardboard peaches in the grocery
> > stores.  It has to be people who have never tasted a real peach.
> >
> > So, Rich and Max:  Bah!  Your peaches are awful!
> >
> > If it is any consolation, I won't eat anything called "Cherry" unless I
> > made it with real fresh tart cherries, or frozen tart cherries.   The
> > sheeple are so stupid that they think cherry tastes like cough syrup, so
> > all the "cherry" products may be made with real cherries, but they are
> > flavored with maraschino cherry flavor mixed with cough syrup flavor to
> > make an awful glop.   Eating the cherries right in the tree was best!
>  I'd
> > usually eat 4 to 6 lb of strawberries in the patch too.   That was GOOOD
> > stuff!
> >
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[MBZ] Boat Angel Ministry 2006 E350 with bad Trans

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Went for more than it should have I think! 256,000 miles

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361690796501?ul_noapp=true

Bob Massmann
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Re: [MBZ] Passing the Pipe?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Nice paint. 
First time I've ever seen a 123 with all the keys. 
Yeah priced too high for anybody outside of Jerkski. 
Mitch. 

> On August 28, 2016 at 6:56 AM dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Between some of the CL listers this week?
> 
> http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5754018222.html
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[MBZ] AMG= Fuel Sucking Pig?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

http://flint.craigslist.org/cto/5697292148.html
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/comparempg.shtml#id=18327

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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

I'd guess they have different varieties for export/travel to other
locations, and these are most certainly worse than others.

I refuse to purchase peaches anywhere other than my local stand in Chester
NJ.  They're outstanding, currently $25 for a half bushel.  I'm on my third
box this month.

These peaches will not travel well, however.  Even before they're ripe you
have to be careful with them.

NJ is one of the larger peach producing states... We are the garden state,
after all.

I believe they're selling Lorie peach right now, but I could be wrong.

Jaime
-just finished splitting another tractor cart load of wood


On Saturday, August 27, 2016, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I grew up with local Strawberries, cherries, blueberries, apples, peaches,
> plums, pears, and on a good year, apricots.  Our own peaches were always
> best, and IL peaches next best, and MO peaches in third.
>
> Living in HI, we had none of these available.  One time I decided the CO
> peaches looked good, so I bought a few.  They were terrible, absolutely dry
> cardboard, no juice, no flavor.  Now a homegrown peach, or IL or MO peach
> would be so juicy the juice ran down your chin and down your arms to the
> elbow, where it ran off.
>
> Here, the best we have been able to do is MO peaches with no variety
> identification.   But still they are flavorful and juicy.  Not run to your
> elbows juicy, but tasty, none the less.
>
> Rich and Max were braggin about Carolina peaches a few weeks ago.  When
> the store here ran out of MO peaches, I looked at CO, CA and whatever else
> they had, and decided, on Rich's recommendation to try the Carolina peaches.
>
> WOW!  they were dry as cardboard, and had nearly the same flavor!
> Terrible!  Absolutely TERRIBLE!  They looked pretty, but were dry as a bone
> , hard and had no flavor.  The ones I tried to let ripen and soften some
> turned brown inside, but they were too dry to rot.  They were even worse
> than those awful CO peaches I tried in HI!
>
> Well, at least the strawberries in the store are still tolerable.  Nowhere
> near the juiciness and flavor of real strawberries, but they are
> tolerable.   I wonder who buys the cardboard peaches in the grocery
> stores.  It has to be people who have never tasted a real peach.
>
> So, Rich and Max:  Bah!  Your peaches are awful!
>
> If it is any consolation, I won't eat anything called "Cherry" unless I
> made it with real fresh tart cherries, or frozen tart cherries.   The
> sheeple are so stupid that they think cherry tastes like cough syrup, so
> all the "cherry" products may be made with real cherries, but they are
> flavored with maraschino cherry flavor mixed with cough syrup flavor to
> make an awful glop.   Eating the cherries right in the tree was best!   I'd
> usually eat 4 to 6 lb of strawberries in the patch too.   That was GOOOD
> stuff!
>
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[MBZ] Passing the Pipe?

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Between some of the CL listers this week?

http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5754018222.html 


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