Re: [MBZ] More AZ W123 Action...

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

I don't know why, but my 300D with Bundts rides a lot smoother on rough roads 
than my 240D with steel wheels. Less unsprung weight on the Bundts?
Gerry
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> > > -1  Steel wheels with chrome color matched hubcaps are stronger, cheaper,
> > > better.  Bundts are a bloody nightmare to clean or paint.
> > >
> > > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> > >> November 16, 2016 at 12:37 PM
> > >> Au contraire. Since they predated the bundt wheels, hubcaps are passé
> > and
> > >> LESS refined. They also look weird on modern cars such as the W123.
> > >>
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> > >> Wish I had them. I personally find bundts ugly.
> > >>
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> > >> What's with the old school déclassé hubcaps vs. standard issue alloys??
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> > >>
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> > >> Subject: [MBZ] More AZ W123 Action...
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - rabble rouser

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Funny how crooks wanna keep people from finding out about what they do.

Prevent recordings, etc.  ...  gov offals keeping private servers, 
private foundations, to keep taxpayers in the dark and to route top 
secret materials to buddies who are enemies of the country.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
November 16, 2016 at 11:16 PM

Funny how so many state officials think they can just pass a law against
recording them, when ALL the federal courts have repeatedly ruled that 
we have a

Right, secured by the First Amendment, to record the public acts of public
officials.

Mitch.

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Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
November 16, 2016 at 7:15 PM
Well we managed to knock him out of his Council Chairman role, and his 
political future is dead now (though he did get reelected last week, 
given he had no opposition).  Daddy was expecting he would be the next 
mayor of NChuck, that ain't happening now as the black folks are not 
going to allow that to happen.  He's pretty much walking dead in that 
regard.


Now this stuff with the hospital.  And the dirt pit bidness that just 
keeps getting dirtier.  And more to come very soon on a whole 'nother 
aspect of the shadiness going on.  And the Gov and Senate Pres now 
fully on board after they heard his stupidity.  That ain't too 
shabby.  And his daddy squealing that the law about recordings needs 
to be changed and twisting arms of the other fools over there.


He had the stupidity to call up another guy and accuse me of hiring 
the black folks, NAACP and NAN, to go raise hell about his racist 
behavior.  I didn't know whether to laugh or... laugh, it was so 
stupid, and yet another insult to them, the boy just cain't keep his 
mouth shut.  I think it was getting a bit warm for him in that 
quarter, actually I know it was as I heard a bunch go off on him 
really bad.  I had a little chat with the Sheriff a coupla weeks ago 
about all this, I am confident the word was received 5X5 that nothing 
is going to be tolerated of his foolishness, esp as it relates to my 
partner in all this.  He introduced me to the local head of the NAACP, 
who turned out to be quite pleasant, esp when she found out I had a 
bit of a role in getting this ball rolling, and I have heard from a 
couple other quarters that the black folks got our backs.  It's 
amazing how many people can't stand him and are getting tired of all  
good ol boy lies and BS.


And more to come on the Council aspect too.  dripdripdrip

--FT




Max Dillon via Mercedes 
November 16, 2016 at 6:42 PM
Uh huh. I'll keep watching...

Timing IS everything, the council would be wise to use the time 
between now and the next election cycle to make this matter go so far 
away that they'll have some prayer of retaining their offices...

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
November 16, 2016 at 10:10 AM
On advice of counsel I respectfully decline to answer the question.

Daddy was at the County Council meeting last night when Diane's 
article hit the interwebs.  Someone had the courage to show it to 
him.  I was watching him read it and he was Not A Happy Camper. His 
dumbass boy done step in it again, oh my.  I delighted in receiving a 
stink eye from him.  Then someone who has been party to some of the 
proceedings associated with the matter walked by and made a passing 
reference to it to another fellow staffer, and other staff who were 
gathered around had somewhat concerned looks.  A certain cute young TV 
news reporterette was advised of the matter and was going to dig into 
it today.


The Council adjourned to executive session at one point to discuss 
this matter and the roads issue, and to have their supper.  I did not 
yet find out what was discussed there.  I did find out at the last 
meeting 2 weeks ago, having just posted a little while earlier the 
summary judgment in a lawsuit from one of his dirt pit subcontractors, 
that discussion of that matter (of which he was unaware to that point) 
derailed discussion of a possible lawsuit related to the road issue.  
That was comforting and gratifying.  One hopes a similar situation 
obtained last evening.  You see, it really is all about timing, not 
that I would know anything about that aspect of the matter.


I made sure to position myself in sight of the principal to this 
sh*show, but said nothing.  I do like seeing the boy squirm and living 
rent-free in his head.


But watch this space for even more piling on.  It's only getting 
better.  On multiple fronts.  Mo betta.  Oh my it will be good.


NOTE: It was not I who started the fire last month (well, not 
directly, but I guess I sorta maybe might have lighted the match for 
someone el

Re: [MBZ] OT - rabble rouser

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On November 16, 2016 at 8:15 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>   And 
> his daddy squealing that the law about recordings needs to be changed 
> and twisting arms of the other fools over there.

Funny how so many state officials think they can just pass a law against
recording them, when ALL the federal courts have repeatedly ruled that we have a
Right, secured by the First Amendment, to record the public acts of public
officials. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap m189

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LOL.  Might be interested if it had 1/2 the number of doors.

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>
> It needs you to refurb and restore it!
>
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Re: [MBZ] More AZ W123 Action...

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

*Chacun a son gout.*

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 8:14 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I disagree. Butt ugly compared to classic painted hub caps.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 2005 E320 4 matic
> Wickford RI
>
> On Nov 16, 2016 4:46 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > But they look so awesome when they are cleaned.
> >
> > On Nov 16, 2016 3:27 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > -1  Steel wheels with chrome color matched hubcaps are stronger,
> cheaper,
> > > better.  Bundts are a bloody nightmare to clean or paint.
> > >
> > > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> > >> November 16, 2016 at 12:37 PM
> > >> Au contraire. Since they predated the bundt wheels, hubcaps are passé
> > and
> > >> LESS refined. They also look weird on modern cars such as the W123.
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes <
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> > >> November 16, 2016 at 12:12 PM
> > >> Me too. The color-keyed aluminum wheel covers are so much more
> refined.
> > >>
> > >> Dan
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> > >> Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
> > >> November 16, 2016 at 12:11 PM
> > >> Wish I had them. I personally find bundts ugly.
> > >>
> > >> Dwight Giles Jr.
> > >> 1982 300CD
> > >> 2005 E320 4 matic
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> > >> What's with the old school déclassé hubcaps vs. standard issue
> alloys??
> > >>
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> > >> -Curt
> > >>
> > >> From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Fun to watch the old SNL clips.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> I was thinking the same thing, but I believe you have it confused with
> Shimmer:
>
> http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/shimmer-floor-wax/n8625?snl=1
>
>
> > On Nov 16, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > And a dessert topping too!
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
> > On 11/16/16 3:18 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >> And it looks like it softens hands, too!
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
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> >>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> >>>
> >>> Dan inquires:
> >>>
>  ‎Fluid filmed? Is this for the >undercarriage?
> >>> Yup.‎ It is a rust preventative. Unless you plan on being a Hoosier,
> or Cheesehead again soon, I don't think you would need it.
> >>>
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> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap m189

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Andrew...   its calling you.   Aandreww...

It needs you to refurb and restore it!


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November 16, 2016 at 9:31 PM

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[MBZ] Cheap m189

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Mercedes 300SE w112 LWB
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[MBZ] Meth

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Re: [MBZ] OT - rabble rouser

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Well we managed to knock him out of his Council Chairman role, and his 
political future is dead now (though he did get reelected last week, 
given he had no opposition).  Daddy was expecting he would be the next 
mayor of NChuck, that ain't happening now as the black folks are not 
going to allow that to happen.  He's pretty much walking dead in that 
regard.


Now this stuff with the hospital.  And the dirt pit bidness that just 
keeps getting dirtier.  And more to come very soon on a whole 'nother 
aspect of the shadiness going on.  And the Gov and Senate Pres now fully 
on board after they heard his stupidity.  That ain't too shabby.  And 
his daddy squealing that the law about recordings needs to be changed 
and twisting arms of the other fools over there.


He had the stupidity to call up another guy and accuse me of hiring the 
black folks, NAACP and NAN, to go raise hell about his racist behavior.  
I didn't know whether to laugh or... laugh, it was so stupid, and yet 
another insult to them, the boy just cain't keep his mouth shut.  I 
think it was getting a bit warm for him in that quarter, actually I know 
it was as I heard a bunch go off on him really bad.  I had a little chat 
with the Sheriff a coupla weeks ago about all this, I am confident the 
word was received 5X5 that nothing is going to be tolerated of his 
foolishness, esp as it relates to my partner in all this.  He introduced 
me to the local head of the NAACP, who turned out to be quite pleasant, 
esp when she found out I had a bit of a role in getting this ball 
rolling, and I have heard from a couple other quarters that the black 
folks got our backs.  It's amazing how many people can't stand him and 
are getting tired of all  good ol boy lies and BS.


And more to come on the Council aspect too.  dripdripdrip

--FT


On 11/16/16 7:42 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Uh huh.  I'll keep watching...

Timing IS everything, the council would be wise to use the time between now and 
the next election cycle to make this matter go so far away that they'll have 
some prayer of retaining their offices...


--
--FT
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Re: [MBZ] More AZ W123 Action...

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I disagree. Butt ugly compared to classic painted hub caps.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4 matic
Wickford RI

On Nov 16, 2016 4:46 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> But they look so awesome when they are cleaned.
>
> On Nov 16, 2016 3:27 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > -1  Steel wheels with chrome color matched hubcaps are stronger, cheaper,
> > better.  Bundts are a bloody nightmare to clean or paint.
> >
> > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> >> November 16, 2016 at 12:37 PM
> >> Au contraire. Since they predated the bundt wheels, hubcaps are passé
> and
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> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Actually you can call 800-DIGSAFE and tell them you are doing some sort 
of construction and need to locate a line, they will send a guy out 
within a coupla days and it doesn't cost anything. That would be the 
easiest and most effective way to do it.  They will mark your power, 
phone, water, gas, etc. lines if they are buried.


--FT


On 11/16/16 7:40 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
the guys who locate buried utilities can get you within -+ 2-3 feet of 
a buried cable.


They may be more accurate now, but it also varies with the depth. If 
it is 6-12" underground, they should be right on.

Mountain Man via Mercedes 
November 16, 2016 at 4:23 PM
Someone? - electricity is nice but is there a way to find the other
end of a wire used to conduct electricity when that wire is buried in
the ground? One end of the wire is visible but the other end is not
visible. Is there a way to find the other end? If this question
sounds familiar... it is. This question was asked a while ago but it
still remains unanswered. Thanks, okiebenz.
mao


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Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness

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What Rick said :

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Sperry-Lan-WireTracker-Tone-
and-Probe-Wire-Tracer-ET64220/202520187

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On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Actually that reminds me. I've got an outlet in the kitchen that doesn't
> work. It was working and then one day just quit. No power to the leads
> coming into the box. No breakers tripped and I can't find the wire that
> feeds the box...
> All the other boxes in the house have a wire coming out of them into the
> basement. This one doesn't seem to and theres no other outlets in that
> wall. Its under a window so the wire probably doesn't lead into the attic.
> Weird...
> -Curt
>
>   From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Randy Bennell 
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 5:35 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness
>
> On 16/11/2016 4:23 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:
> > Someone? - electricity is nice but is there a way to find the other
> > end of a wire used to conduct electricity when that wire is buried in
> > the ground?  One end of the wire is visible but the other end is not
> > visible.  Is there a way to find the other end?  If this question
> > sounds familiar... it is.  This question was asked a while ago but it
> > still remains unanswered.  Thanks, okiebenz.
> > mao
> >
> > ___
>
> Are you trying to determine what the wire leads to? Or if it is
> connected to anything at all? Or just what path it takes under the ground?
> Is the end you can see connected to power? Is the line live?
> If it is live, I would start with a very basic search for it. I would
> turn off the power to it and then look for what does no longer work.
> If it is underground and not live, then I would try a metal detector.
> The success of that might depend upon how much other stuff is
> underground to intefere.
>
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] OT - rabble rouser

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Uh huh.  I'll keep watching...

Timing IS everything, the council would be wise to use the time between now and 
the next election cycle to make this matter go so far away that they'll have 
some prayer of retaining their offices...
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
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'95 E300

On November 16, 2016 11:10:24 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>On advice of counsel I respectfully decline to answer the question.
>
>Daddy was at the County Council meeting last night when Diane's article
>
>hit the interwebs.  Someone had the courage to show it to him.  I was 
>watching him read it and he was Not A Happy Camper. His dumbass boy
>done 
>step in it again, oh my.  I delighted in receiving a stink eye from 
>him.  Then someone who has been party to some of the proceedings 
>associated with the matter walked by and made a passing reference to it
>
>to another fellow staffer, and other staff who were gathered around had
>
>somewhat concerned looks.  A certain cute young TV news reporterette
>was 
>advised of the matter and was going to dig into it today.
>
>The Council adjourned to executive session at one point to discuss this
>
>matter and the roads issue, and to have their supper.  I did not yet 
>find out what was discussed there.  I did find out at the last meeting
>2 
>weeks ago, having just posted a little while earlier the summary 
>judgment in a lawsuit from one of his dirt pit subcontractors, that 
>discussion of that matter (of which he was unaware to that point) 
>derailed discussion of a possible lawsuit related to the road issue.  
>That was comforting and gratifying.  One hopes a similar situation 
>obtained last evening.  You see, it really is all about timing, not
>that 
>I would know anything about that aspect of the matter.
>
>I made sure to position myself in sight of the principal to this 
>sh*show, but said nothing.  I do like seeing the boy squirm and living 
>rent-free in his head.
>
>But watch this space for even more piling on.  It's only getting 
>better.  On multiple fronts.  Mo betta.  Oh my it will be good.
>
>NOTE: It was not I who started the fire last month (well, not directly,
>
>but I guess I sorta maybe might have lighted the match for someone else
>
>to use, and encouraged it) but I take considerable delight in fanning 
>the flames while the firestarter maintains a bit of a well-earned 
>respite from firestarting and deals with other pressing issues. 
>Another 
>part of the effort to keep her calm and renewing her energy for the
>next 
>phase.  The team carries on and it is just too much fun.
>
>--R
>
>
>On 11/16/16 10:36 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Floyd,
>>
>> Did you or your cohort have any involvement in the latest woe for my
>> neighbor?
>>
>> Heard a spot on "The Big Talker" this a.m. about a kickback scheme on
>a
>> totally separate matter and some damaging statements.
>>
>> Maybe you've started the fire, and now it is spreading?
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

the guys who locate buried utilities can get you within -+ 2-3 feet of a 
buried cable.


They may be more accurate now, but it also varies with the depth.  If it 
is 6-12" underground, they should be right on.

Mountain Man via Mercedes 
November 16, 2016 at 4:23 PM
Someone? - electricity is nice but is there a way to find the other
end of a wire used to conduct electricity when that wire is buried in
the ground? One end of the wire is visible but the other end is not
visible. Is there a way to find the other end? If this question
sounds familiar... it is. This question was asked a while ago but it
still remains unanswered. Thanks, okiebenz.
mao


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Re: [MBZ] refrigerant oil

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Only get what you need, the PAG absorbs water like crazy, and with  
R214a makes hydrofluoric acid.


120 mL in the compressor if I remember correctly.

You do NOT need to vent the system to replace the clutch or coil on  
the compressor if it's the same one in the 87 or 88.


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Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

You can get a voltage detector for maybe $15 or so, they can sense 
applied voltage some bit of distance away.  You could energize the dead 
end and try to follow it in the wall, depending


--R


On 11/16/16 5:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Thats what I'd think but I'll be dammed if I can figure out where it goes.
-Curt

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  Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 5:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness

On 16/11/2016 4:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Actually that reminds me. I've got an outlet in the kitchen that doesn't work. 
It was working and then one day just quit. No power to the leads coming into 
the box. No breakers tripped and I can't find the wire that feeds the box...
All the other boxes in the house have a wire coming out of them into the 
basement. This one doesn't seem to and theres no other outlets in that wall. 
Its under a window so the wire probably doesn't lead into the attic.
Weird...
-Curt

 

That one sounds like the wire must go to another outlet or light fixture
etc. Maybe just a loose connection in that other box.

RB



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never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
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Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Shortly after we moved into our home in 1981 we had a breaker trip and a 
lot of the lights went inoperative. Re-setting the breaker did not help 
as it just tripped again. I started pulling apart wiring in boxes of 
items that did not work as close to the panel as I could determine and 
testing to see if the wires leading out were shorted. I had a whole lot 
of the house disconnected before I found the problem in one of the 2nd 
floor bedrooms. One of the outlets had a wire with some of the 
insulation stripped off, probably just from pulling the wires into the 
box and I would guess that vibration from people walking around etc 
caused the wire to touch the metal box. Taped it up well and have had no 
futher issues with that in the time since. I must have been pretty well 
to the end of that circuit by the time I found it.


RB

On 16/11/2016 4:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Thats what I'd think but I'll be dammed if I can figure out where it goes.
-Curt

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  Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 5:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness

On 16/11/2016 4:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Actually that reminds me. I've got an outlet in the kitchen that doesn't work. 
It was working and then one day just quit. No power to the leads coming into 
the box. No breakers tripped and I can't find the wire that feeds the box...
All the other boxes in the house have a wire coming out of them into the 
basement. This one doesn't seem to and theres no other outlets in that wall. 
Its under a window so the wire probably doesn't lead into the attic.
Weird...
-Curt

 

That one sounds like the wire must go to another outlet or light fixture
etc. Maybe just a loose connection in that other box.

RB



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Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Thats what I'd think but I'll be dammed if I can figure out where it goes.
-Curt

  From: Randy Bennell 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 5:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness
   
On 16/11/2016 4:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Actually that reminds me. I've got an outlet in the kitchen that doesn't 
> work. It was working and then one day just quit. No power to the leads coming 
> into the box. No breakers tripped and I can't find the wire that feeds the 
> box...
> All the other boxes in the house have a wire coming out of them into the 
> basement. This one doesn't seem to and theres no other outlets in that wall. 
> Its under a window so the wire probably doesn't lead into the attic.
> Weird...
> -Curt
>
>    
That one sounds like the wire must go to another outlet or light fixture 
etc. Maybe just a loose connection in that other box.

RB


   
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Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

RB wrote:
> If it is underground and not live, then I would try a metal detector. The
> success of that might depend upon how much other stuff is underground to
> intefere.

Yes, underground and not live.  This a barn on the property that is
wired with outlets and lights but the connection to live power has
been taped and there is no detectable power after the tape is removed.
Not much stuff near the barn.
http://tinyurl.com/hjv4hle
If power is applied to exposed end using a generator, will a metal
detector have a better chance of detecting the bury location and end?
Is there some sort of signal thingie that can be hooked up to enhance
the metal detector sensitivity?  Do rental yards have reliable metal
detectors? or are they trashed usually?
Thanks... again?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

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‎https://www.amazon.com/Extech-TG20-Wire-Tracer-Generator/dp/B00APD16D2

‎https://www.amazon.com/Triplett-HotWire-3388-Circuit-Generator/dp/B0046SPMG4

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Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 16/11/2016 4:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Actually that reminds me. I've got an outlet in the kitchen that doesn't work. 
It was working and then one day just quit. No power to the leads coming into 
the box. No breakers tripped and I can't find the wire that feeds the box...
All the other boxes in the house have a wire coming out of them into the 
basement. This one doesn't seem to and theres no other outlets in that wall. 
Its under a window so the wire probably doesn't lead into the attic.
Weird...
-Curt


That one sounds like the wire must go to another outlet or light fixture 
etc. Maybe just a loose connection in that other box.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Actually that reminds me. I've got an outlet in the kitchen that doesn't work. 
It was working and then one day just quit. No power to the leads coming into 
the box. No breakers tripped and I can't find the wire that feeds the box...
All the other boxes in the house have a wire coming out of them into the 
basement. This one doesn't seem to and theres no other outlets in that wall. 
Its under a window so the wire probably doesn't lead into the attic.
Weird...
-Curt

  From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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Cc: Randy Bennell 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 5:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness
   
On 16/11/2016 4:23 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:
> Someone? - electricity is nice but is there a way to find the other
> end of a wire used to conduct electricity when that wire is buried in
> the ground?  One end of the wire is visible but the other end is not
> visible.  Is there a way to find the other end?  If this question
> sounds familiar... it is.  This question was asked a while ago but it
> still remains unanswered.  Thanks, okiebenz.
> mao
>
> ___

Are you trying to determine what the wire leads to? Or if it is 
connected to anything at all? Or just what path it takes under the ground?
Is the end you can see connected to power? Is the line live?
If it is live, I would start with a very basic search for it. I would 
turn off the power to it and then look for what does no longer work.
If it is underground and not live, then I would try a metal detector. 
The success of that might depend upon how much other stuff is 
underground to intefere.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 16/11/2016 4:23 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

Someone? - electricity is nice but is there a way to find the other
end of a wire used to conduct electricity when that wire is buried in
the ground?  One end of the wire is visible but the other end is not
visible.  Is there a way to find the other end?  If this question
sounds familiar... it is.  This question was asked a while ago but it
still remains unanswered.  Thanks, okiebenz.
mao

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Are you trying to determine what the wire leads to? Or if it is 
connected to anything at all? Or just what path it takes under the ground?

Is the end you can see connected to power? Is the line live?
If it is live, I would start with a very basic search for it. I would 
turn off the power to it and then look for what does no longer work.
If it is underground and not live, then I would try a metal detector. 
The success of that might depend upon how much other stuff is 
underground to intefere.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I was thinking the same thing, but I believe you have it confused with Shimmer:

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/shimmer-floor-wax/n8625?snl=1


> On Nov 16, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> And a dessert topping too!
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 11/16/16 3:18 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> And it looks like it softens hands, too!
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dan inquires:
>>> 
 ‎Fluid filmed? Is this for the >undercarriage?
>>> Yup.‎ It is a rust preventative. Unless you plan on being a Hoosier, or 
>>> Cheesehead again soon, I don't think you would need it.
>>> 
>>> http://www.fluid-film.com/
>>> 
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> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
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Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Someone? - electricity is nice but is there a way to find the other
end of a wire used to conduct electricity when that wire is buried in
the ground?  One end of the wire is visible but the other end is not
visible.  Is there a way to find the other end?  If this question
sounds familiar... it is.  This question was asked a while ago but it
still remains unanswered.  Thanks, okiebenz.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Take this you bottom feeders

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So declasse. Had to borrow its Engine from the plebeian Mercedes line of
proletarian cars.

On Nov 16, 2016 4:16 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
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> Boy its ugly from behind. Looks good from the front though.
> -Curt
>
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> cabriolet-is-a-hilariously-e-1789026862
>
> --
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Re: [MBZ] More AZ W123 Action...

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But they look so awesome when they are cleaned.

On Nov 16, 2016 3:27 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
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> -1  Steel wheels with chrome color matched hubcaps are stronger, cheaper,
> better.  Bundts are a bloody nightmare to clean or paint.
>
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> November 16, 2016 at 12:37 PM
>> Au contraire. Since they predated the bundt wheels, hubcaps are passé and
>> LESS refined. They also look weird on modern cars such as the W123.
>>
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>> Me too. The color-keyed aluminum wheel covers are so much more refined.
>>
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>> Wish I had them. I personally find bundts ugly.
>>
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>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Take this you bottom feeders

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Boy its ugly from behind. Looks good from the front though.
-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun

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One of the lantern guys I know uses it to soften the leather pump cups. He says 
the lanolin is the best thing ever...
-Curt

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And it looks like it softens hands, too!

Dan

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> On Nov 16, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
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> 
>> ‎Fluid filmed? Is this for the >undercarriage?
> 
> Yup.‎ It is a rust preventative. Unless you plan on being a Hoosier, or 
> Cheesehead again soon, I don't think you would need it. 
> 
> http://www.fluid-film.com/
> 
> ‎http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146102
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Re: [MBZ] Take this you bottom feeders

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On 16/11/2016 2:31 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
http://jalopnik.com/the-mercedes-maybach-s-650-cabriolet-is-a-hilariously-e-1789026862 




but . . . .  it did not say anything about a diesel engine.

RB


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Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun

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And a dessert topping too!

--FT


On 11/16/16 3:18 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

And it looks like it softens hands, too!

Dan

Sent from my iPad


On Nov 16, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
wrote:

Dan inquires:


‎Fluid filmed? Is this for the >undercarriage?

Yup.‎ It is a rust preventative. Unless you plan on being a Hoosier, or 
Cheesehead again soon, I don't think you would need it.

http://www.fluid-film.com/

‎http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146102

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petty,
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[MBZ] Take this you bottom feeders

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

http://jalopnik.com/the-mercedes-maybach-s-650-cabriolet-is-a-hilariously-e-1789026862

--
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Re: [MBZ] More AZ W123 Action...

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

-1  Steel wheels with chrome color matched hubcaps are stronger, 
cheaper, better.  Bundts are a bloody nightmare to clean or paint.



Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
November 16, 2016 at 12:37 PM
Au contraire. Since they predated the bundt wheels, hubcaps are passé and
LESS refined. They also look weird on modern cars such as the W123.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes 


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Me too. The color-keyed aluminum wheel covers are so much more refined.

Dan

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Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
November 16, 2016 at 12:11 PM
Wish I had them. I personally find bundts ugly.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4 matic
Wickford RI

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November 16, 2016 at 11:07 AM
What's with the old school déclassé hubcaps vs. standard issue alloys??

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Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
November 16, 2016 at 9:25 AM
Boy that '82 sure looks like a good deal...
-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun

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English underseal.

Fred


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Supposed to be good stuff. I'm thinking I ought to get it done on the Golf and 
Dodge which are both mostly rust free. Lots of places around here doing it now.
My great uncle used to get under his cars and paint on used motor oil with a 
brush. He kept cars forever...
-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun

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And it looks like it softens hands, too!

Dan

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> On Nov 16, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
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> 
> Dan inquires:
> 
>> ‎Fluid filmed? Is this for the >undercarriage?
> 
> Yup.‎ It is a rust preventative. Unless you plan on being a Hoosier, or 
> Cheesehead again soon, I don't think you would need it. 
> 
> http://www.fluid-film.com/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun

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Supposed to be good stuff. I'm thinking I ought to get it done on the Golf and 
Dodge which are both mostly rust free. Lots of places around here doing it now.
My great uncle used to get under his cars and paint on used motor oil with a 
brush. He kept cars forever...
-Curt

  From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
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 Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun
   
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>‎Fluid filmed? Is this for the >undercarriage?

Yup.‎ It is a rust preventative. Unless you plan on being a Hoosier, or 
Cheesehead again soon, I don't think you would need it. 

http://www.fluid-film.com/

‎http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146102

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Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun

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Jon writes:

>‎I had the whole car sprayed in a very >nice “driver” job (against Dimitri’s 
>>wishes) 

What were his wishes? 
Concours quality?


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Dan inquires:

>‎Fluid filmed? Is this for the >undercarriage?

Yup.‎ It is a rust preventative. Unless you plan on being a Hoosier, or 
Cheesehead again soon, I don't think you would need it. 

http://www.fluid-film.com/

‎http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146102

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Re: [MBZ] More AZ W123 Action...

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Get Dimitri to sell you the steelies off the '78. Actually if you were really 
bold you'd get the alloys. I've got most, if not all, of a set of hubcaps. 
They'll want painting but you could get 'em color matched.
-Curt

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Wish I  had them. I personally find bundts ugly.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
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Wickford RI

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> What's with the old school déclassé hubcaps vs. standard issue alloys??
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > Boy that '82 sure looks like a good deal...
> > -Curt
> >
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Re: [MBZ] More AZ W123 Action...

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Au contraire.  Since they predated the bundt wheels, hubcaps are passé and
LESS refined.  They also look weird on modern cars such as the W123.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
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> Me too.  The color-keyed aluminum wheel covers are so much more refined.
>
> Dan
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> >
> > Wish I  had them. I personally find bundts ugly.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
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> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Nov 16, 2016 12:07 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
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> >
> >> What's with the old school déclassé hubcaps vs. standard issue alloys??
> >>
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> >>> Boy that '82 sure looks like a good deal...
> >>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] More AZ W123 Action...

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Me too.  The color-keyed aluminum wheel covers are so much more refined.

Dan

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> On Nov 16, 2016, at 1:11 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
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> 
> Wish I  had them. I personally find bundts ugly.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
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> Wickford RI
> 
> On Nov 16, 2016 12:07 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> What's with the old school déclassé hubcaps vs. standard issue alloys??
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Boy that '82 sure looks like a good deal...
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>  From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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>>> Subject: [MBZ] More AZ W123 Action...
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Re: [MBZ] More AZ W123 Action...

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Wish I  had them. I personally find bundts ugly.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4 matic
Wickford RI

On Nov 16, 2016 12:07 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
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> What's with the old school déclassé hubcaps vs. standard issue alloys??
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Boy that '82 sure looks like a good deal...
> > -Curt
> >
> >   From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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> >  Subject: [MBZ] More AZ W123 Action...
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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The jacka$$ boys jack up the peekup and lower da cah.  Makes a lot 
of sense 



Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
November 16, 2016 at 11:05 AM
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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

$300 rolling Pahtz cah!


Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] OT but timely

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That is kinda funny.

A guy I know, Lonnie. who collects old Chinese stuff, went there with a 
bunch of his (pretty rare) old things.  Their "expert" who was there 
knew absolutely nothing about any of it, though he was acting like he 
did.  It was all a show for the show.  So Lonnie proceeds to school the 
show guy on the stuff, which pissed the "expert" off bigtime, and they 
ended up getting in a bit of row over it, and then the show people threw 
him out for being disruptive.  There was an article about the show in 
the paper the next day, which made mention of the incident, which I 
immediately knew referenced Lonnie as he had told me he got an invite to 
go. So I saved the article and when I saw him he told me all about it 
and it was pretty funny.  They should have filmed that for the show, it 
would have been much more fun.  Lonnie hits estate sales and thrift 
shops, and finds this stuff that people think are just cheepchinee 
tchotchkes, castoffs, and it turns out a lot of it is very rare and 
valuable if you know what to look for.


Lonnie is also quite gay and very Suthrun, so, ohmahlawd honey, hearing 
his discussion of the whole thing, honey, was hugely entertaining, two 
gay guys ("that ignant old queen they had theah!") having a hissy row 
over old chinee antique stuff.


On the other note, I am going to hit up Greg for some of his ice cream, 
which is to die for.  Especially alongside some of his cake.  Or cookies.


--FT


On 11/16/16 12:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Charlston was one of the cities featured on Antiques Roadshow last night.
I kept on hoping "Floyd" would show up with his 1784
post-colonial pewter rug beater, but then I realized I had no idea what he
looked like.  Sill, worth watching.

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Let me know if you need help with testing!

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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My buddy Greg's second avocation featured in today's paper!

http://www.postandcourier.com/food/cic-students-serve-up-the
ir-ideas-for-thanksgiving-desserts/article_8c6e58f8-96fd-
11e6-b032-2fcc433d3fe6.html

I would say he makes some awesome stuff, but I would need more testing to
be definitive in that statement.

--
--FT
Winston Churchill:
“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
large or petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
the enemy.”


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petty,
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Re: [MBZ] WTF?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Slammed and stanced yo.  Das sick yo.

--FT


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https://lancaster.craigslist.org/cto/5875109741.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT but timely

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Charlston was one of the cities featured on Antiques Roadshow last night.
I kept on hoping "Floyd" would show up with his 1784
post-colonial pewter rug beater, but then I realized I had no idea what he
looked like.  Sill, worth watching.

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> Let me know if you need help with testing!
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > My buddy Greg's second avocation featured in today's paper!
> >
> > http://www.postandcourier.com/food/cic-students-serve-up-the
> > ir-ideas-for-thanksgiving-desserts/article_8c6e58f8-96fd-
> > 11e6-b032-2fcc433d3fe6.html
> >
> > I would say he makes some awesome stuff, but I would need more testing to
> > be definitive in that statement.
> >
> > --
> > --FT
> > Winston Churchill:
> > “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> > large or petty,
> > never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> > Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
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Re: [MBZ] More AZ W123 Action...

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What's with the old school déclassé hubcaps vs. standard issue alloys??

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> Boy that '82 sure looks like a good deal...
> -Curt
>
>   From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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>  Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:51 AM
>  Subject: [MBZ] More AZ W123 Action...
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> Boom!
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> Date: Nov 16, 2016 6:48 AM
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>
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[MBZ] WTF?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

https://lancaster.craigslist.org/cto/5875109741.html

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Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I run BioBor shortly after getting each car for the reasons you state. I also 
had good luck with the water-wetter the one time I tried it. My '84 190D would 
randomly run hot, I never could figure out why but the water wetter seemed to 
mitigate the issue somewhat.
The thing about a lubrication additive is that being successful with it doesn't 
prove you wouldn't have been successful without it. I've never had an IP or 
injector failure. I had the injectors in my '84 190D cleaned and new nozzles 
and didn't really see any improvement from it.
I have seen huge improvements with Diesel Purge on neglected engines though, 
its kind of magic.
-Curt

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 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: "d...@penoff.com" 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 11:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun
   
I've used RedLine in my diesels in a response to the change in OTR diesel 
formulation from some years ago.  When I had my 82 300SD I used it in every 
tank. After nearly 150k, I had the injectors rebuilt. The Bosch diesel tech 
that rebuilt them said they were the cleanest injectors he had ever seen, and I 
had to show him my service records before he would believe they had 150k+ on 
them.

When I was working in San Francisco my employer was a Stanadyne distributor. A 
full case of the Stanadyne fuel additive got damaged in the warehouse and was 
left sitting out on loading dock. I asked what they planned on doing with it, 
and when they said they were going to throw it in the waste oil tank, I asked 
if I could have it.  They gave me the whole case...

I also use the RedLine WaterWetter. It definitely makes a difference.

When I first got my W126 I ran some BioBor through it as I knew it hadn't been 
run a lot prior to my purchasing it. I waited until I got home to do it just in 
case it shook anything loose in the tank. I get my fuel from nearly new gas 
stations that turn their stock over at least once a week, so there's really no 
need for it now.

Dan



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> 
> John's 108 is glorious...
> I'm not a fan of additives, I follow the Marshall Booth attitude that if it 
> ain't broke I don't gotta mess with it. I'll hit both cars with a shot of 
> de-waterer here in the next couple weeks to be sure no water buildup from 
> warm summer air is in the tank to freeze but other than that since neither of 
> my cars has shown any sign of issues I'm going to proceed happily.
> This reminds me I need to review the procedure for changing the fuel filter 
> on the '05 Golf. I *think* I need to put in the new filter and actuate an 
> electric pump with the VCDS to prime the lines. On the '98 its just replace 
> and crank but it hasn't complained this year. Usually in the fall it'll fall 
> into limp home mode on a big hill climb indicating a clogged filter. Maybe 
> after 3 years I've finally run it enough that the tank is mostly clean...
> -Curt
> 
>      From: Dan--- via Mercedes 
> To: Mercedes List  
> Cc: "d...@penoff.com" 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 9:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun
> 
> Jon,
> 
> Where did you get your Cibie headlamps, and what did they cost, if I might 
> ask?
> 
> Fluid filmed? Is this for the undercarriage?
> 
> Stanadyne is good stuff, I prefer RedLine Diesel Fuel Catalyst, but I've used 
> both.  After a first dose of one bottle you only need an ounce per tank fill. 
> It does wonderful things for lubricity and isn't expensive, around 
> $10-$11/bottle around here, which is 12 tanks of fuel, about a buck a tank.  
> I can find it on the shelf at PepBoys for that, which is cheaper than buying 
> a case online.
> 
> I love Desert Red, especially with a Palimino interior.
> 
> Wrenching on these older cars is far more satisfying than working on the 
> later stuff. It's simple, things are relatively easy to access and there's no 
> dealing with electronics, it's all analog.  I am really enjoying working on 
> my W123 and W126, almost daily looking for reasons to tinker rather than 
> avoid like with the W140s...
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 8:23 AM, Jon Agne  wrote:
>> 
>> Bravo!  I love days like that!
>> 
>> There really is nothing quite so enjoyable than wrenching on my W123 and 
>> W108.  Ive just gotten Karl back from the paint shop after Dimitri worked 
>> some of


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Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I've used RedLine in my diesels in a response to the change in OTR diesel 
formulation from some years ago.  When I had my 82 300SD I used it in every 
tank. After nearly 150k, I had the injectors rebuilt. The Bosch diesel tech 
that rebuilt them said they were the cleanest injectors he had ever seen, and I 
had to show him my service records before he would believe they had 150k+ on 
them.

When I was working in San Francisco my employer was a Stanadyne distributor. A 
full case of the Stanadyne fuel additive got damaged in the warehouse and was 
left sitting out on loading dock. I asked what they planned on doing with it, 
and when they said they were going to throw it in the waste oil tank, I asked 
if I could have it.  They gave me the whole case...

I also use the RedLine WaterWetter. It definitely makes a difference.

When I first got my W126 I ran some BioBor through it as I knew it hadn't been 
run a lot prior to my purchasing it. I waited until I got home to do it just in 
case it shook anything loose in the tank. I get my fuel from nearly new gas 
stations that turn their stock over at least once a week, so there's really no 
need for it now.

Dan



Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 16, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> John's 108 is glorious...
> I'm not a fan of additives, I follow the Marshall Booth attitude that if it 
> ain't broke I don't gotta mess with it. I'll hit both cars with a shot of 
> de-waterer here in the next couple weeks to be sure no water buildup from 
> warm summer air is in the tank to freeze but other than that since neither of 
> my cars has shown any sign of issues I'm going to proceed happily.
> This reminds me I need to review the procedure for changing the fuel filter 
> on the '05 Golf. I *think* I need to put in the new filter and actuate an 
> electric pump with the VCDS to prime the lines. On the '98 its just replace 
> and crank but it hasn't complained this year. Usually in the fall it'll fall 
> into limp home mode on a big hill climb indicating a clogged filter. Maybe 
> after 3 years I've finally run it enough that the tank is mostly clean...
> -Curt
> 
>  From: Dan--- via Mercedes 
> To: Mercedes List  
> Cc: "d...@penoff.com" 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 9:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun
> 
> Jon,
> 
> Where did you get your Cibie headlamps, and what did they cost, if I might 
> ask?
> 
> Fluid filmed? Is this for the undercarriage?
> 
> Stanadyne is good stuff, I prefer RedLine Diesel Fuel Catalyst, but I've used 
> both.  After a first dose of one bottle you only need an ounce per tank fill. 
> It does wonderful things for lubricity and isn't expensive, around 
> $10-$11/bottle around here, which is 12 tanks of fuel, about a buck a tank.  
> I can find it on the shelf at PepBoys for that, which is cheaper than buying 
> a case online.
> 
> I love Desert Red, especially with a Palimino interior.
> 
> Wrenching on these older cars is far more satisfying than working on the 
> later stuff. It's simple, things are relatively easy to access and there's no 
> dealing with electronics, it's all analog.  I am really enjoying working on 
> my W123 and W126, almost daily looking for reasons to tinker rather than 
> avoid like with the W140s...
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 8:23 AM, Jon Agne  wrote:
>> 
>> Bravo!  I love days like that!
>> 
>> There really is nothing quite so enjoyable than wrenching on my W123 and 
>> W108.  Ive just gotten Karl back from the paint shop after Dimitri worked 
>> some of


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Re: [MBZ] OT - rabble rouser

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

On advice of counsel I respectfully decline to answer the question.

Daddy was at the County Council meeting last night when Diane's article 
hit the interwebs.  Someone had the courage to show it to him.  I was 
watching him read it and he was Not A Happy Camper. His dumbass boy done 
step in it again, oh my.  I delighted in receiving a stink eye from 
him.  Then someone who has been party to some of the proceedings 
associated with the matter walked by and made a passing reference to it 
to another fellow staffer, and other staff who were gathered around had 
somewhat concerned looks.  A certain cute young TV news reporterette was 
advised of the matter and was going to dig into it today.


The Council adjourned to executive session at one point to discuss this 
matter and the roads issue, and to have their supper.  I did not yet 
find out what was discussed there.  I did find out at the last meeting 2 
weeks ago, having just posted a little while earlier the summary 
judgment in a lawsuit from one of his dirt pit subcontractors, that 
discussion of that matter (of which he was unaware to that point) 
derailed discussion of a possible lawsuit related to the road issue.  
That was comforting and gratifying.  One hopes a similar situation 
obtained last evening.  You see, it really is all about timing, not that 
I would know anything about that aspect of the matter.


I made sure to position myself in sight of the principal to this 
sh*show, but said nothing.  I do like seeing the boy squirm and living 
rent-free in his head.


But watch this space for even more piling on.  It's only getting 
better.  On multiple fronts.  Mo betta.  Oh my it will be good.


NOTE: It was not I who started the fire last month (well, not directly, 
but I guess I sorta maybe might have lighted the match for someone else 
to use, and encouraged it) but I take considerable delight in fanning 
the flames while the firestarter maintains a bit of a well-earned 
respite from firestarting and deals with other pressing issues.  Another 
part of the effort to keep her calm and renewing her energy for the next 
phase.  The team carries on and it is just too much fun.


--R


On 11/16/16 10:36 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Floyd,

Did you or your cohort have any involvement in the latest woe for my
neighbor?

Heard a spot on "The Big Talker" this a.m. about a kickback scheme on a
totally separate matter and some damaging statements.

Maybe you've started the fire, and now it is spreading?
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

John's 108 is glorious...
I'm not a fan of additives, I follow the Marshall Booth attitude that if it 
ain't broke I don't gotta mess with it. I'll hit both cars with a shot of 
de-waterer here in the next couple weeks to be sure no water buildup from warm 
summer air is in the tank to freeze but other than that since neither of my 
cars has shown any sign of issues I'm going to proceed happily.
This reminds me I need to review the procedure for changing the fuel filter on 
the '05 Golf. I *think* I need to put in the new filter and actuate an electric 
pump with the VCDS to prime the lines. On the '98 its just replace and crank 
but it hasn't complained this year. Usually in the fall it'll fall into limp 
home mode on a big hill climb indicating a clogged filter. Maybe after 3 years 
I've finally run it enough that the tank is mostly clean...
-Curt

  From: Dan--- via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes List  
Cc: "d...@penoff.com" 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 9:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun
   
Jon,

Where did you get your Cibie headlamps, and what did they cost, if I might ask?

Fluid filmed? Is this for the undercarriage?

Stanadyne is good stuff, I prefer RedLine Diesel Fuel Catalyst, but I've used 
both.  After a first dose of one bottle you only need an ounce per tank fill. 
It does wonderful things for lubricity and isn't expensive, around 
$10-$11/bottle around here, which is 12 tanks of fuel, about a buck a tank.  I 
can find it on the shelf at PepBoys for that, which is cheaper than buying a 
case online.

I love Desert Red, especially with a Palimino interior.

Wrenching on these older cars is far more satisfying than working on the later 
stuff. It's simple, things are relatively easy to access and there's no dealing 
with electronics, it's all analog.  I am really enjoying working on my W123 and 
W126, almost daily looking for reasons to tinker rather than avoid like with 
the W140s...

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 16, 2016, at 8:23 AM, Jon Agne  wrote:
> 
> Bravo!  I love days like that!
> 
> There really is nothing quite so enjoyable than wrenching on my W123 and 
> W108.  Ive just gotten Karl back from the paint shop after Dimitri worked 
> some of his welding magic on my right rear quarter panel.  I had the whole 
> car sprayed in a very nice “driver” job (against Dimitri’s wishes) in the 
> original color “Desert Red.”  It looks fantastic.  The car had 2 colors 
> before due to a incident with a motorcycle 25 years ago on that right rear 
> quarter, and the original paint was so thin you could see primer in places.
> 
> I’ve just installed new Cibie headlamps (kept the original wattage on the 
> bulbs) and I cannot believe the difference.  Today, I’ll replace the left fog 
> light (corroded reflector) with one I purchased on eBay.  The windshield guy 
> is also coming today to replace the original and the trunk seal.  Yes, I have 
> the MB seals….I learned that lesson a long time ago.  Thank you, Jaime.
> 
> Later this week I’ll get the car fluid filmed (in all the right places).  I 
> used to do this, but my friend has a gun and shoots out of a 5-gallon can 
> with the car on a lift.  Painless!!!
> 
> Diesel Purge is great stuff.  I always fill the new fuel filter with it 
> because I never think to get diesel in advance of working on the car.
> 
> It’s been warm so far this year, but cold is just around the corner.  I am 
> going to prep small bottles of Howes Diesel Conditioner for winter use.  
> Thinking of switching to Stanadyne after this bottle is exhausted
> 
> Happy Wrenching!
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Got home from work, took care of some domestic stuff, starting the oil 
>> sucker before I began.
>> 
>> Changed oil (Delo 400 LE 15W40) and installed a Mann oil filter.  There was 
>> a spare Mann filter with the car, but when I took it out of the box and 
>> inspected it the bottom rolled edge of the metal part was rusted or 
>> corroded.  No way I was putting that into the engine, so my shelf spare went 
>> in.  Always good to have a spare!
>> 
>> Removed the air cleaner and found one of the buffers broken.  The metal 
>> cups/heat shields were all still there, which was nice to see.  I used one 
>> of my $6.00 M119 air cleaner buffers (MB part #1039880111, $6.00 list) that 
>> I suspected were the same and it was.  It’s possible they’re slight slightly 
>> taller than the W123 part, but that would be the only difference.  Someone 
>> had already trimmed the inlet elbow edge off, so the sealing ring came out 
>> easy and was still nice and pliable, so no need to replace it.
>> 
>> With the air cleaner out, I pulled the banjo bolt on the back of the intake 
>> out and cleaned it.  It was pretty clear with just a little bit of crud in 
>> it. This car will stand up on it’s hind legs without hardly any effort so 
>> I’m sure the line isn’t plugged, but I’ll check it this weekend when I have 
>> more 

Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

In the past there were many crappy bubs  (asian) whose base did not make 
good contact.  you might try plan A first.  (Replace the bubs)



Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
November 16, 2016 at 9:42 AM
Thanks all that have replied, I'll re-test with a bulb in place, and 
report

back.

The fixture itself is contractor-grade installed over 20 years ago, and
looks great but the quality is lacking. I may see if I can replace the
bulb sockets and wiring.

-Max

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:48 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
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Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
November 15, 2016 at 10:48 PM
Jim is probably right.  Bur if even one good bulb is screwed in you should
read zero.  The capacitive coupling voltage is normal with a high impedance
meter but it normally floats around: not constant.


-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Cathey via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:58 PM
Inductive/capacitive coupling, probably.  Voltage means nothing, voltage

times

current means everything.  A million volts at a picoamp probably won't

even

tickle.

-- Jim
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Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
November 15, 2016 at 7:57 PM
Inductive/capacitive coupling, probably. Voltage means nothing,
voltage times current means everything. A million volts at a picoamp
probably won't even tickle.

-- Jim
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Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
November 15, 2016 at 6:57 PM
Ceiling light fixture, has three small 15 watt bulbs, two were "out" so I
decided it was time for new bulbs. Touching one of them caused it to light
up, indicating the base contacts are not contacting, so I decided to take
down the fixture and see if I could fix that.

Here's the strange part. I shut off the switch that controls that light
fixture, and double checked with my Fluke to make sure the power is really
off, but the meter shows 14 VAC between the hot and the ground!

What is the cause of this?
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT home wiring / electricity strangeness

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks all that have replied, I'll re-test with a bulb in place, and report
back.

The fixture itself is contractor-grade installed over 20 years ago, and
looks great but the quality is lacking.  I may see if I can replace the
bulb sockets and wiring.

-Max

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:48 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Jim is probably right.  Bur if even one good bulb is screwed in you should
> read zero.  The capacitive coupling voltage is normal with a high impedance
> meter but it normally floats around: not constant.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> > Cathey via Mercedes
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:58 PM
> > Inductive/capacitive coupling, probably.  Voltage means nothing, voltage
> times
> > current means everything.  A million volts at a picoamp probably won't
> even
> > tickle.
> >
> > -- Jim
>
>
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[MBZ] OT - rabble rouser

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Floyd,

Did you or your cohort have any involvement in the latest woe for my
neighbor?

Heard a spot on "The Big Talker" this a.m. about a kickback scheme on a
totally separate matter and some damaging statements.

Maybe you've started the fire, and now it is spreading?
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT but timely

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Let me know if you need help with testing!

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My buddy Greg's second avocation featured in today's paper!
>
> http://www.postandcourier.com/food/cic-students-serve-up-the
> ir-ideas-for-thanksgiving-desserts/article_8c6e58f8-96fd-
> 11e6-b032-2fcc433d3fe6.html
>
> I would say he makes some awesome stuff, but I would need more testing to
> be definitive in that statement.
>
> --
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] More AZ W123 Action...

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Boy that '82 sure looks like a good deal...
-Curt

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 Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:51 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] More AZ W123 Action...
   
Boom!
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Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Sorry, no.  That's a reference to the resident feline, to which I am the 
beholden human of choice.

If she (Kitty) had her way, the wife would be further down the scratching 
(pecking) order.

SWMBS - she who must be scratched. And fed, and entertained, etc., etc.

Dan

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> On Nov 16, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So your wife is named "Kitty?"  Does Marshall Max Dillon know?
> 
> 
>> On 11/15/16 8:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Enough for the day.  Time to play with Kitty and turn in.
>> 
>> Dan
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> or petty,
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> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd:AZ W123 action

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

   1985 Mercede 300D Turbo Diesel

It's only one car

--FT


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Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

So your wife is named "Kitty?"  Does Marshall Max Dillon know?


On 11/15/16 8:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Enough for the day.  Time to play with Kitty and turn in.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Jon,

Where did you get your Cibie headlamps, and what did they cost, if I might ask?

Fluid filmed? Is this for the undercarriage?

Stanadyne is good stuff, I prefer RedLine Diesel Fuel Catalyst, but I've used 
both.  After a first dose of one bottle you only need an ounce per tank fill. 
It does wonderful things for lubricity and isn't expensive, around 
$10-$11/bottle around here, which is 12 tanks of fuel, about a buck a tank.  I 
can find it on the shelf at PepBoys for that, which is cheaper than buying a 
case online.

I love Desert Red, especially with a Palimino interior.

Wrenching on these older cars is far more satisfying than working on the later 
stuff. It's simple, things are relatively easy to access and there's no dealing 
with electronics, it's all analog.  I am really enjoying working on my W123 and 
W126, almost daily looking for reasons to tinker rather than avoid like with 
the W140s...

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 16, 2016, at 8:23 AM, Jon Agne  wrote:
> 
> Bravo!  I love days like that!
> 
> There really is nothing quite so enjoyable than wrenching on my W123 and 
> W108.  Ive just gotten Karl back from the paint shop after Dimitri worked 
> some of his welding magic on my right rear quarter panel.  I had the whole 
> car sprayed in a very nice “driver” job (against Dimitri’s wishes) in the 
> original color “Desert Red.”  It looks fantastic.  The car had 2 colors 
> before due to a incident with a motorcycle 25 years ago on that right rear 
> quarter, and the original paint was so thin you could see primer in places.
> 
> I’ve just installed new Cibie headlamps (kept the original wattage on the 
> bulbs) and I cannot believe the difference.  Today, I’ll replace the left fog 
> light (corroded reflector) with one I purchased on eBay.  The windshield guy 
> is also coming today to replace the original and the trunk seal.  Yes, I have 
> the MB seals….I learned that lesson a long time ago.  Thank you, Jaime.
> 
> Later this week I’ll get the car fluid filmed (in all the right places).  I 
> used to do this, but my friend has a gun and shoots out of a 5-gallon can 
> with the car on a lift.  Painless!!!
> 
> Diesel Purge is great stuff.  I always fill the new fuel filter with it 
> because I never think to get diesel in advance of working on the car.
> 
> It’s been warm so far this year, but cold is just around the corner.  I am 
> going to prep small bottles of Howes Diesel Conditioner for winter use.  
> Thinking of switching to Stanadyne after this bottle is exhausted
> 
> Happy Wrenching!
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Got home from work, took care of some domestic stuff, starting the oil 
>> sucker before I began.
>> 
>> Changed oil (Delo 400 LE 15W40) and installed a Mann oil filter.  There was 
>> a spare Mann filter with the car, but when I took it out of the box and 
>> inspected it the bottom rolled edge of the metal part was rusted or 
>> corroded.  No way I was putting that into the engine, so my shelf spare went 
>> in.  Always good to have a spare!
>> 
>> Removed the air cleaner and found one of the buffers broken.  The metal 
>> cups/heat shields were all still there, which was nice to see.  I used one 
>> of my $6.00 M119 air cleaner buffers (MB part #1039880111, $6.00 list) that 
>> I suspected were the same and it was.  It’s possible they’re slight slightly 
>> taller than the W123 part, but that would be the only difference.  Someone 
>> had already trimmed the inlet elbow edge off, so the sealing ring came out 
>> easy and was still nice and pliable, so no need to replace it.
>> 
>> With the air cleaner out, I pulled the banjo bolt on the back of the intake 
>> out and cleaned it.  It was pretty clear with just a little bit of crud in 
>> it. This car will stand up on it’s hind legs without hardly any effort so 
>> I’m sure the line isn’t plugged, but I’ll check it this weekend when I have 
>> more time.  I also noticed the ALDA is still sealed.
>> 
>> O-ring on the air cleaner drain tube could stand to be replaced - it’s NLA, 
>> but the oil dipstick O-ring is the same size and it’s still available.  
>> Another item for the parts list to call in tomorrow.
>> 
>> Changed the two O-rings on the filter tube (thanks, Curley!) and got four 
>> quarts in through the filter housing.  Put the new Mann filter in and closed 
>> things up.  Got another two quarts into it to hit the mid point of the 
>> dipstick and all was well.
>> 
>> Cleaned the battery terminals and ground cable.  Put some protective goo on 
>> the terminals.
>> 
>> Took it for a quick ride up to Advance Auto to pick up an online order for 
>> some rust neutralizer I had sitting there.  Ran great with no problems.
>> 
>> Some observations:
>> 
>> Vacuum levers on the throttle linkage on the top of the valve cover are 
>> nearly worn away.  I wonder if they’re still available?
>> 
>> Cigar hose is cracked right near where it connects to the fil

[MBZ] OT but timely

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

My buddy Greg's second avocation featured in today's paper!

http://www.postandcourier.com/food/cic-students-serve-up-their-ideas-for-thanksgiving-desserts/article_8c6e58f8-96fd-11e6-b032-2fcc433d3fe6.html

I would say he makes some awesome stuff, but I would need more testing 
to be definitive in that statement.


--
--FT
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“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Waytago!Send pictures!


Jon Agne via Mercedes 
November 16, 2016 at 7:23 AM
Bravo! I love days like that!

There really is nothing quite so enjoyable than wrenching on my W123 
and W108. Ive just gotten Karl back from the paint shop after Dimitri 
worked some of his welding magic on my right rear quarter panel. I had 
the whole car sprayed in a very nice “driver” job (against Dimitri’s 
wishes) in the original color “Desert Red.” It looks fantastic. The 
car had 2 colors before due to a incident with a motorcycle 25 years 
ago on that right rear quarter, and the original paint was so thin you 
could see primer in places.


I’ve just installed new Cibie headlamps (kept the original wattage on 
the bulbs) and I cannot believe the difference. Today, I’ll replace 
the left fog light (corroded reflector) with one I purchased on eBay. 
The windshield guy is also coming today to replace the original and 
the trunk seal. Yes, I have the MB seals….I learned that lesson a long 
time ago. Thank you, Jaime.


Later this week I’ll get the car fluid filmed (in all the right 
places). I used to do this, but my friend has a gun and shoots out of 
a 5-gallon can with the car on a lift. Painless!!!


Diesel Purge is great stuff. I always fill the new fuel filter with it 
because I never think to get diesel in advance of working on the car.


It’s been warm so far this year, but cold is just around the corner. I 
am going to prep small bottles of Howes Diesel Conditioner for winter 
use. Thinking of switching to Stanadyne after this bottle is exhausted


Happy Wrenching!

Jon




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Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
November 15, 2016 at 7:54 PM
Got home from work, took care of some domestic stuff, starting the oil 
sucker before I began.


Changed oil (Delo 400 LE 15W40) and installed a Mann oil filter. There 
was a spare Mann filter with the car, but when I took it out of the 
box and inspected it the bottom rolled edge of the metal part was 
rusted or corroded. No way I was putting that into the engine, so my 
shelf spare went in. Always good to have a spare!


Removed the air cleaner and found one of the buffers broken. The metal 
cups/heat shields were all still there, which was nice to see. I used 
one of my $6.00 M119 air cleaner buffers (MB part #1039880111, $6.00 
list) that I suspected were the same and it was. It’s possible they’re 
slight slightly taller than the W123 part, but that would be the only 
difference. Someone had already trimmed the inlet elbow edge off, so 
the sealing ring came out easy and was still nice and pliable, so no 
need to replace it.


With the air cleaner out, I pulled the banjo bolt on the back of the 
intake out and cleaned it. It was pretty clear with just a little bit 
of crud in it. This car will stand up on it’s hind legs without hardly 
any effort so I’m sure the line isn’t plugged, but I’ll check it this 
weekend when I have more time. I also noticed the ALDA is still sealed.


O-ring on the air cleaner drain tube could stand to be replaced - it’s 
NLA, but the oil dipstick O-ring is the same size and it’s still 
available. Another item for the parts list to call in tomorrow.


Changed the two O-rings on the filter tube (thanks, Curley!) and got 
four quarts in through the filter housing. Put the new Mann filter in 
and closed things up. Got another two quarts into it to hit the mid 
point of the dipstick and all was well.


Cleaned the battery terminals and ground cable. Put some protective 
goo on the terminals.


Took it for a quick ride up to Advance Auto to pick up an online order 
for some rust neutralizer I had sitting there. Ran great with no problems.


Some observations:

Vacuum levers on the throttle linkage on the top of the valve cover 
are nearly worn away. I wonder if they’re still available?


Cigar hose is cracked right near where it connects to the filter 
housing. Not leaking, but the hose is pretty hard. Another parts order 
item.


Would like to find one of the “flat” one piece breather tubes to 
replace the awful conglomeration of tubes, rubber elbows, clamps, etc. 
that are in place now. I remember well when MB came out with the one 
piece flat rubber tube - it’s still in the EPC but doesn’t appear to 
be available any longer.


Spring for holding power steering filter in place is gone. Another 
item for the morning’s parts order.


Just got a can of Diesel Purge tonight in UPS. I was going to do a 
purge and fuel filters tomorrow, but with the cigar hose in 
questionable condition I may wait until I have the new hose.


Rockers are faded. I’m wondering what color paint they were? They 
weren’t black, more of a dark gray. Easy/cheap fix and makes it look 
much nicer.


Eno

[MBZ] More AZ W123 Action...

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 Fun

[Jon Agne via Mercedes]

Bravo!  I love days like that!

There really is nothing quite so enjoyable than wrenching on my W123 and W108.  
Ive just gotten Karl back from the paint shop after Dimitri worked some of his 
welding magic on my right rear quarter panel.  I had the whole car sprayed in a 
very nice “driver” job (against Dimitri’s wishes) in the original color “Desert 
Red.”  It looks fantastic.  The car had 2 colors before due to a incident with 
a motorcycle 25 years ago on that right rear quarter, and the original paint 
was so thin you could see primer in places.

I’ve just installed new Cibie headlamps (kept the original wattage on the 
bulbs) and I cannot believe the difference.  Today, I’ll replace the left fog 
light (corroded reflector) with one I purchased on eBay.  The windshield guy is 
also coming today to replace the original and the trunk seal.  Yes, I have the 
MB seals….I learned that lesson a long time ago.  Thank you, Jaime.

Later this week I’ll get the car fluid filmed (in all the right places).  I 
used to do this, but my friend has a gun and shoots out of a 5-gallon can with 
the car on a lift.  Painless!!!

Diesel Purge is great stuff.  I always fill the new fuel filter with it because 
I never think to get diesel in advance of working on the car.

It’s been warm so far this year, but cold is just around the corner.  I am 
going to prep small bottles of Howes Diesel Conditioner for winter use.  
Thinking of switching to Stanadyne after this bottle is exhausted

Happy Wrenching!

Jon


> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Got home from work, took care of some domestic stuff, starting the oil sucker 
> before I began.
> 
> Changed oil (Delo 400 LE 15W40) and installed a Mann oil filter.  There was a 
> spare Mann filter with the car, but when I took it out of the box and 
> inspected it the bottom rolled edge of the metal part was rusted or corroded. 
>  No way I was putting that into the engine, so my shelf spare went in.  
> Always good to have a spare!
> 
> Removed the air cleaner and found one of the buffers broken.  The metal 
> cups/heat shields were all still there, which was nice to see.  I used one of 
> my $6.00 M119 air cleaner buffers (MB part #1039880111, $6.00 list) that I 
> suspected were the same and it was.  It’s possible they’re slight slightly 
> taller than the W123 part, but that would be the only difference.  Someone 
> had already trimmed the inlet elbow edge off, so the sealing ring came out 
> easy and was still nice and pliable, so no need to replace it.
> 
> With the air cleaner out, I pulled the banjo bolt on the back of the intake 
> out and cleaned it.  It was pretty clear with just a little bit of crud in 
> it. This car will stand up on it’s hind legs without hardly any effort so I’m 
> sure the line isn’t plugged, but I’ll check it this weekend when I have more 
> time.  I also noticed the ALDA is still sealed.
> 
> O-ring on the air cleaner drain tube could stand to be replaced - it’s NLA, 
> but the oil dipstick O-ring is the same size and it’s still available.  
> Another item for the parts list to call in tomorrow.
> 
> Changed the two O-rings on the filter tube (thanks, Curley!) and got four 
> quarts in through the filter housing.  Put the new Mann filter in and closed 
> things up.  Got another two quarts into it to hit the mid point of the 
> dipstick and all was well.
> 
> Cleaned the battery terminals and ground cable.  Put some protective goo on 
> the terminals.
> 
> Took it for a quick ride up to Advance Auto to pick up an online order for 
> some rust neutralizer I had sitting there.  Ran great with no problems.
> 
> Some observations:
> 
> Vacuum levers on the throttle linkage on the top of the valve cover are 
> nearly worn away.  I wonder if they’re still available?
> 
> Cigar hose is cracked right near where it connects to the filter housing.  
> Not leaking, but the hose is pretty hard.  Another parts order item.
> 
> Would like to find one of the “flat” one piece breather tubes to replace the 
> awful conglomeration of tubes, rubber elbows, clamps, etc. that are in place 
> now.  I remember well when MB came out with the one piece flat rubber tube - 
> it’s still in the EPC but doesn’t appear to be available any longer.
> 
> Spring for holding power steering filter in place is gone.  Another item for 
> the morning’s parts order.
> 
> Just got a can of Diesel Purge tonight in UPS.  I was going to do a purge and 
> fuel filters tomorrow, but with the cigar hose in questionable condition I 
> may wait until I have the new hose.
> 
> Rockers are faded.  I’m wondering what color paint they were?  They weren’t 
> black, more of a dark gray.  Easy/cheap fix and makes it look much nicer.
> 
> Enough for the day.  Time to play with Kitty and turn in.
> 
> Dan
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