Re: [MBZ] Which glow plug? - 240D

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I will only use Beru or Bosch. (OM621, 61x, 601-603)  I have used 
neverseeze on the threads.  You never want the neverseeze on the tip, 
but you can carefully put it on the threads.


I recently had to change the GP relay on the 603.  Glow light was  only 
2-3 seconds.  GPs all checked good.  Installed a used GP Relay, and 
alles gut.

Mountain Man via Mercedes 
March 2, 2018 at 8:50 PM
Wasn't there discussion about this recently? Beru, Bosch, NGK are
names on the used plugs removed and replaced today. For the past few
weeks, one glow plug gone allowed tough starts, but, earlier this week
another plug failed and that is a tough start. Warm calm day here so
the used plugs got this thing running, but without dash warning light
because hamfist broke off a wire connector.

Question: what was the recent consensus - Bosch (France), Beru
(Germany), NGK (Orient)? Was it Craig who did GP change recently?
The two GP replaced today came out quite easy. Is it okay to use
anti-seize on threads? or is that bad for electric connection?
Thanks.
tin.man


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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun -- Costco Michelins -- bundts 123/126?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

And there are 14" and 15" bundts.  A 15" will fit on  a brake made for 
14" wheels, but a 14"  bundt may not fit on a car that came with 15" out 
of the factory.


Bolts always match to the wheel, not the car.


Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
March 2, 2018 at 7:33 PM
As I recall, alloy and steel are different but all alloy are same. In 
addition to different rim width, I think there may be different 
offsets for alloys.





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Re: [MBZ] Muchos millas

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 2 Mar 2018 21:20:03 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> BADGES = Batchez . slang Mexican talk takeaway from a really old
> movie line... that has become a "classic".

Oh!

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Which glow plug? - 240D

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 2 Mar 2018 21:54:11 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Beru are the OE plugs and seem to last a great deal longer than the
> Bosch and others.  They are also more expensive, hence the “you get
> what you pay for” adage comes into play here.

For the '90 E300D/2.5 Turbo:


FCP Euro has
Mercedes Diesel Glow Plug - Bosch 80031$10.89
Mercedes Diesel Glow Plug - Meyle 0011593601   $ 9.99


Importec has
Part# : 001 159 17 01 BOSCH$13.22

partsgeek has

Beru Glow Plug $15.48
Part Number: W0133-1631189
Notes: Type GE/GN
Detailed Notes: Optional with 001 159 17 01.
Product Remark: GN

Beru Glow Plug $16.48
Part Number: W0133-1715016
Notes: Type GE/GN
Product Remark: GN

carid.com has

GN Type Diesel Glow Plug W0133-1631189-BER $15.34
GN Type Diesel Glow Plug W0133-1715016-BER $15.87


So what's the difference between the two Beru part numbers? I did a web
search and found nothing.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Muchos millas

[G Mann via Mercedes]

BADGES = Batchez . slang Mexican talk takeaway from a really old movie
line... that has become a "classic".

On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 7:49 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Mar 2018 20:50:57 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > I got my 250km badge for the E320 wagon today.  Talk about excessive
> > packaging!
>
> I think you mean 250 kkm.
>
>
> Craig
>
> >
> > > On Mar 2, 2018, at 8:46 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Carrier just dropped off the box with 750k km badge for Allen.
> > >
> > > BATCHEZ?!?  We need some Stinkin’ Batchez!
>
> So what does batchez mean?
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Which glow plug? - 240D

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Last I knew Beru was the preferred. I think thats all I've used on anything 
except Angie's Golf which requires NGK.
-Curt
 

On Friday, March 2, 2018, 9:51:02 PM EST, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Wasn't there discussion about this recently?  Beru, Bosch, NGK are
names on the used plugs removed and replaced today.  For the past few
weeks, one glow plug gone allowed tough starts, but, earlier this week
another plug failed and that is a tough start.  Warm calm day here so
the used plugs got this thing running, but without dash warning light
because hamfist broke off a wire connector.

Question: what was the recent consensus - Bosch (France), Beru
(Germany), NGK (Orient)?  Was it Craig who did GP change recently?
The two GP replaced today came out quite easy.  Is it okay to use
anti-seize on threads? or is that bad for electric connection?
Thanks.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun -- Costco Michelins -- bundts 123/126?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Hubcap and non-hubcap are different. Hubcap came in both steel and alloy...
-Curt
 

On Friday, March 2, 2018, 8:33:20 PM EST, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 As I recall, alloy and steel are different but all alloy are same.  In 
addition to different rim width, I think there may be different offsets for 
alloys.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Dwight Giles via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 7:52 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Dwight Giles 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun -- Costco Michelins -- bundts 123/126?
> 
> What about bolt length?
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Mar 2, 2018 7:41 PM, "clay monroe via Mercedes"
> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Yes,  Same rims for the w115-w126.  At least they have fit those same
> > cars.  I pulled them from 116 and 123 on put them on w115, as well as w126.
> >
> >
> > clay
> >
> > 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> > 1986 SDL - Polei
> > 1982 300 SD - Allen
> >
> > retired models-
> > 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> > 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> > 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> > 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987
> > SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Mar 2, 2018, at 6:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Do 123 bundts fit on the 126?
> > >
> > > --R
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/1/18 10:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > >> I only buy H rated tires for my 123 wagon.  The $55 Kumho Sense are
> > holding
> > >> up well after 4 years.  195X70Hx14.
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Maybe I should get a costco membership
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 3/1/2018 9:15 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> > >>>
> >  Hmm, Angie's golf needs new summer tires...
> >  Curt
> > 
> >  Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >       On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes<
> >  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:  The Michelin X Tour A/S T in
> > 195/65-15
> >  are $86.49/each, $345.96 for the set plus $60 for installation
> > through the
> >  4th.  Don’t know if you’ll see the screen shot below:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  The SD will have 14” tires, correct?
> > 
> >  -D
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  On Mar 1, 2018, at 5:44 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Tell me about the Michelins -- the LF tire on the SD went bad --
> > really
> > > warn on inside and outside down to cords and the belt separated
> > almost all
> > > around the inside and some on the outside. Kinda weird, like it
> > > had
> > run
> > > really low inflation for a long time but it has been aired up
> > > OK.  I
> > had
> > > only seen the outside edge so was also thinking maybe the camber
> > adjustment
> > > had gone wonky on that side, and was going to get the alignment
> > checked,
> > > but now it looks like something else.  Maybe the tire itself
> > > went
> > bad, they
> > > are maybe 4 years old, still a lot of tread left.  Anyway, I
> > > need to
> > get a
> > > coupla tires to replace that one and I guess the other front one
> > too, use
> > > the other one for a spare now.
> > >
> > > I'll probably go by Costco tomorrow so can take the tires and
> > > see
> > what
> > > they have but if you can fill me in that would be good.
> > >
> > > --FT
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/1/18 10:27 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> > >
> > >> Costco has a really good deal on Michelins, so I’ll head up
> > >> there
> > and
> > >> get a set ordered.
> > >>
> > > --
> > > --FT
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Which glow plug? - 240D

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 2 Mar 2018 20:50:56 -0600 Mountain Man via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Was it Craig who did GP change recently?

No, but I need to.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Which glow plug? - 240D

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Beru are the OE plugs and seem to last a great deal longer than the Bosch and 
others.  They are also more expensive, hence the “you get what you pay for” 
adage comes into play here.

-D


> On Mar 2, 2018, at 9:50 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Wasn't there discussion about this recently?  Beru, Bosch, NGK are
> names on the used plugs removed and replaced today.  For the past few
> weeks, one glow plug gone allowed tough starts, but, earlier this week
> another plug failed and that is a tough start.  Warm calm day here so
> the used plugs got this thing running, but without dash warning light
> because hamfist broke off a wire connector.
> 
> Question: what was the recent consensus - Bosch (France), Beru
> (Germany), NGK (Orient)?  Was it Craig who did GP change recently?
> The two GP replaced today came out quite easy.  Is it okay to use
> anti-seize on threads? or is that bad for electric connection?
> Thanks.
> tin.man
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[MBZ] Which glow plug? - 240D

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Wasn't there discussion about this recently?  Beru, Bosch, NGK are
names on the used plugs removed and replaced today.  For the past few
weeks, one glow plug gone allowed tough starts, but, earlier this week
another plug failed and that is a tough start.  Warm calm day here so
the used plugs got this thing running, but without dash warning light
because hamfist broke off a wire connector.

Question: what was the recent consensus - Bosch (France), Beru
(Germany), NGK (Orient)?  Was it Craig who did GP change recently?
The two GP replaced today came out quite easy.  Is it okay to use
anti-seize on threads? or is that bad for electric connection?
Thanks.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] Muchos millas

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 2 Mar 2018 20:50:57 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I got my 250km badge for the E320 wagon today.  Talk about excessive
> packaging!

I think you mean 250 kkm.


Craig

> 
> > On Mar 2, 2018, at 8:46 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Carrier just dropped off the box with 750k km badge for Allen. 
> > 
> > BATCHEZ?!?  We need some Stinkin’ Batchez!

So what does batchez mean?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Muchos millas

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I got my 250km badge for the E320 wagon today.  Talk about excessive packaging!

-D


> On Mar 2, 2018, at 8:46 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Carrier just dropped off the box with 750k km badge for Allen. 
> 
> BATCHEZ?!?  We need some Stinkin’ Batchez!
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
> 
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[MBZ] Muchos millas

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Carrier just dropped off the box with 750k km badge for Allen. 

BATCHEZ?!?  We need some Stinkin’ Batchez!


clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun -- Costco Michelins -- bundts 123/126?

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

As I recall, alloy and steel are different but all alloy are same.  In addition 
to different rim width, I think there may be different offsets for alloys.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Dwight Giles via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 7:52 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Dwight Giles 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun -- Costco Michelins -- bundts 123/126?
> 
> What about bolt length?
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Mar 2, 2018 7:41 PM, "clay monroe via Mercedes"
> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Yes,  Same rims for the w115-w126.  At least they have fit those same
> > cars.  I pulled them from 116 and 123 on put them on w115, as well as w126.
> >
> >
> > clay
> >
> > 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> > 1986 SDL - Polei
> > 1982 300 SD - Allen
> >
> > retired models-
> > 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> > 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> > 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> > 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987
> > SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Mar 2, 2018, at 6:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Do 123 bundts fit on the 126?
> > >
> > > --R
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/1/18 10:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > >> I only buy H rated tires for my 123 wagon.  The $55 Kumho Sense are
> > holding
> > >> up well after 4 years.  195X70Hx14.
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Maybe I should get a costco membership
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 3/1/2018 9:15 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> > >>>
> >  Hmm, Angie's golf needs new summer tires...
> >  Curt
> > 
> >  Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >   On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes<
> >  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   The Michelin X Tour A/S T in
> > 195/65-15
> >  are $86.49/each, $345.96 for the set plus $60 for installation
> > through the
> >  4th.  Don’t know if you’ll see the screen shot below:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  The SD will have 14” tires, correct?
> > 
> >  -D
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  On Mar 1, 2018, at 5:44 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Tell me about the Michelins -- the LF tire on the SD went bad --
> > really
> > > warn on inside and outside down to cords and the belt separated
> > almost all
> > > around the inside and some on the outside. Kinda weird, like it
> > > had
> > run
> > > really low inflation for a long time but it has been aired up
> > > OK.  I
> > had
> > > only seen the outside edge so was also thinking maybe the camber
> > adjustment
> > > had gone wonky on that side, and was going to get the alignment
> > checked,
> > > but now it looks like something else.  Maybe the tire itself
> > > went
> > bad, they
> > > are maybe 4 years old, still a lot of tread left.  Anyway, I
> > > need to
> > get a
> > > coupla tires to replace that one and I guess the other front one
> > too, use
> > > the other one for a spare now.
> > >
> > > I'll probably go by Costco tomorrow so can take the tires and
> > > see
> > what
> > > they have but if you can fill me in that would be good.
> > >
> > > --FT
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/1/18 10:27 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> > >
> > >> Costco has a really good deal on Michelins, so I’ll head up
> > >> there
> > and
> > >> get a set ordered.
> > >>
> > > --
> > > --FT
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun -- Costco Michelins -- bundts 123/126?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

They will fit but there are various widths. 126 will be wider than 123.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 2, 2018, at 6:41 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes,  Same rims for the w115-w126.  At least they have fit those same cars.  
> I pulled them from 116 and 123 on put them on w115, as well as w126.
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
> 
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 2, 2018, at 6:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Do 123 bundts fit on the 126?
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/1/18 10:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I only buy H rated tires for my 123 wagon.  The $55 Kumho Sense are holding
>>> up well after 4 years.  195X70Hx14.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Maybe I should get a costco membership
 
 
 
> On 3/1/2018 9:15 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> 
> Hmm, Angie's golf needs new summer tires...
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   The Michelin X Tour A/S T in 195/65-15
> are $86.49/each, $345.96 for the set plus $60 for installation through the
> 4th.  Don’t know if you’ll see the screen shot below:
> 
> 
> 
> The SD will have 14” tires, correct?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 1, 2018, at 5:44 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Tell me about the Michelins -- the LF tire on the SD went bad -- really
>> warn on inside and outside down to cords and the belt separated almost 
>> all
>> around the inside and some on the outside. Kinda weird, like it had run
>> really low inflation for a long time but it has been aired up OK.  I had
>> only seen the outside edge so was also thinking maybe the camber 
>> adjustment
>> had gone wonky on that side, and was going to get the alignment checked,
>> but now it looks like something else.  Maybe the tire itself went bad, 
>> they
>> are maybe 4 years old, still a lot of tread left.  Anyway, I need to get 
>> a
>> coupla tires to replace that one and I guess the other front one too, use
>> the other one for a spare now.
>> 
>> I'll probably go by Costco tomorrow so can take the tires and see what
>> they have but if you can fill me in that would be good.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/1/18 10:27 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> Costco has a really good deal on Michelins, so I’ll head up there and
>>> get a set ordered.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun -- Costco Michelins -- bundts 123/126?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

What about bolt length?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mar 2, 2018 7:41 PM, "clay monroe via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Yes,  Same rims for the w115-w126.  At least they have fit those same
> cars.  I pulled them from 116 and 123 on put them on w115, as well as w126.
>
>
> clay
>
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 2, 2018, at 6:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Do 123 bundts fit on the 126?
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> > On 3/1/18 10:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I only buy H rated tires for my 123 wagon.  The $55 Kumho Sense are
> holding
> >> up well after 4 years.  195X70Hx14.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Maybe I should get a costco membership
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 3/1/2018 9:15 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>
>  Hmm, Angie's golf needs new summer tires...
>  Curt
> 
>  Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>   On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes<
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   The Michelin X Tour A/S T in
> 195/65-15
>  are $86.49/each, $345.96 for the set plus $60 for installation
> through the
>  4th.  Don’t know if you’ll see the screen shot below:
> 
> 
> 
>  The SD will have 14” tires, correct?
> 
>  -D
> 
> 
> 
>  On Mar 1, 2018, at 5:44 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Tell me about the Michelins -- the LF tire on the SD went bad --
> really
> > warn on inside and outside down to cords and the belt separated
> almost all
> > around the inside and some on the outside. Kinda weird, like it had
> run
> > really low inflation for a long time but it has been aired up OK.  I
> had
> > only seen the outside edge so was also thinking maybe the camber
> adjustment
> > had gone wonky on that side, and was going to get the alignment
> checked,
> > but now it looks like something else.  Maybe the tire itself went
> bad, they
> > are maybe 4 years old, still a lot of tread left.  Anyway, I need to
> get a
> > coupla tires to replace that one and I guess the other front one
> too, use
> > the other one for a spare now.
> >
> > I'll probably go by Costco tomorrow so can take the tires and see
> what
> > they have but if you can fill me in that would be good.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
> > On 3/1/18 10:27 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> Costco has a really good deal on Michelins, so I’ll head up there
> and
> >> get a set ordered.
> >>
> > --
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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun -- Costco Michelins

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Most stores no longer carry the small tires.  You can order them online and get 
an install at the store.  No added fees.  THere are issues if you are trying to 
put something on that their computer system says is not right.  Then you are 
not getting them to put tires on.

clay 

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1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Mar 2, 2018, at 8:28 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 01/03/2018 8:39 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> The ones on the car must be similar of an earlier vintage
>> 
>> Michelin X Radial 195 70R14 90S
>> All season M
>> DOT F1HD RH1X 3209
>> 
>> I’ll go by and get a pair. Thanks for the heads up.
>> 
>> --FT
> I asked about 14" tires at our local Costco and they looked at me like I came 
> from outer space.
> 
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun -- Costco Michelins -- bundts 123/126?

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Yes,  Same rims for the w115-w126.  At least they have fit those same cars.  I 
pulled them from 116 and 123 on put them on w115, as well as w126.


clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Mar 2, 2018, at 6:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Do 123 bundts fit on the 126?
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> On 3/1/18 10:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> I only buy H rated tires for my 123 wagon.  The $55 Kumho Sense are holding
>> up well after 4 years.  195X70Hx14.
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Maybe I should get a costco membership
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/1/2018 9:15 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
 Hmm, Angie's golf needs new summer tires...
 Curt
 
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
  On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes<
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   The Michelin X Tour A/S T in 195/65-15
 are $86.49/each, $345.96 for the set plus $60 for installation through the
 4th.  Don’t know if you’ll see the screen shot below:
 
 
 
 The SD will have 14” tires, correct?
 
 -D
 
 
 
 On Mar 1, 2018, at 5:44 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Tell me about the Michelins -- the LF tire on the SD went bad -- really
> warn on inside and outside down to cords and the belt separated almost all
> around the inside and some on the outside. Kinda weird, like it had run
> really low inflation for a long time but it has been aired up OK.  I had
> only seen the outside edge so was also thinking maybe the camber 
> adjustment
> had gone wonky on that side, and was going to get the alignment checked,
> but now it looks like something else.  Maybe the tire itself went bad, 
> they
> are maybe 4 years old, still a lot of tread left.  Anyway, I need to get a
> coupla tires to replace that one and I guess the other front one too, use
> the other one for a spare now.
> 
> I'll probably go by Costco tomorrow so can take the tires and see what
> they have but if you can fill me in that would be good.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 3/1/18 10:27 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> Costco has a really good deal on Michelins, so I’ll head up there and
>> get a set ordered.
>> 
> --
> --FT
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 02 Mar 2018 18:18:07 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> He's chicken.  That has a short lifespan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jai_alai

The sport once held the world record for ball speed with a 125–140 g ball
covered with goatskin that traveled at 302 km/h (188 mph), performed by
José Ramón Areitio at the Newport Rhode Island Jai Alai ...



The ball used in jai alai consists of metal strands tightly wound
together and then wrapped in goat skin.



The sport can be dangerous, as the ball travels at high velocities. It
has led to injuries that caused players to retire and fatalities have
been recorded in some cases.


Craig

> > Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
> > March 2, 2018 at 6:15 PM
> > What about Jai alai?

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

He's chicken.  That has a short lifespan.


Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
March 2, 2018 at 6:15 PM
What about Jai alai?




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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

What about Jai alai?

> On March 2, 2018 at 1:15 PM Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> Squash.  Racquetball is too plebeian.

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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun -- Costco Michelins

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On March 2, 2018 at 1:40 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> yes, for 14", you have to order the tars in.  It has been that way for 
> several years.  Tarrack, discounttardirect and yurotar all have 14" 
> available, but you have to get them shipped in and mounted.

All the better to get fresh tires with. 

A lot of our old 14" cars are low usage, and every month of remaining tire life 
helps. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

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On 02/03/2018 1:19 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

I win, as I called it correctly.  You may donate my jar of pepper jelly to a 
worthy cause, or send me the Becker 1432 as a consolation prize.

Dad played squash. Never cared for it myself. I played handball then later 
racquetball. Like spinning, it’s a very intense workout in a relatively short 
time.

-D



A friend plays racquetball. He was involved in a rather good game a 
couple of weeks back and got too close to the wall and banged his head 
hard enough to knock himself down. He has survived. They checked him out 
good and let him go home. He had a sore neck for a week or more and a 
bit of a bump on his head.


Who was it that said exercize was good for you?

RB

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I win, as I called it correctly.  You may donate my jar of pepper jelly to a 
worthy cause, or send me the Becker 1432 as a consolation prize.

Dad played squash. Never cared for it myself. I played handball then later 
racquetball. Like spinning, it’s a very intense workout in a relatively short 
time.

-D

> On Mar 2, 2018, at 1:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Getting warm. I'm a referee at the Collegiate squash championships being
> held at George Washington University today through Sunday. Www.csasquash.com
> 
> On Mar 2, 2018 1:26 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
>> Doesn't the wind complicate takeoff/landing more than anything?BOS is
>> pretty much at sea level too...
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>>On Friday, March 2, 2018, 1:19:31 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> and rain and ice and snow - it's the total package that counts. I've flown
>> a little Cessna in 45 mph winds, but there were clear skies . . .
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Tell that to my students. BOS is canceling flights with a mere 50mph
>>> wind...
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   On Friday, March 2, 2018, 11:44:30 AM EST, G Mann via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So, Congress ordered the wind and rain to help drain the swamp... or
>>> refill
>>> it?
>>> 
>>> {it's sarcasm folks, not political}
>>> 
>>> 100 mph wind is some serious wind. That means airports in the area are
>>> closed likely for the day.. business travel, etc, shut down and backed
>>> up... but, it's Friday, no need to go home, right?
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 That is gross Dimitri. Cat poo can NOT be any kind of friendly.
 
 Dwight E. Giles Jr.
 Wickford RI
 
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 mercedes@okiebenz.com
> wrote:
 
> Turning coffee grounds and cat poo into eco friendly fireplace logs?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 2, 2018, at 11:26 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 02/03/2018 9:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Actually I'm working at my other day job today. Bonus points if
>>> anyone
>>> knows what that is.
>>> 
>> Composing Tweets for the President
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun -- Costco Michelins

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

They don’t have stock on the 195/65 15 tires I wanted, either.  Not a big deal, 
as I’m in no hurry, but from what I can tell my CostCo tire place has a week 
backlog or more.  No walk in work from the looks of things.

The tires I got for my W210 wagon had to be ordered in, too, but they were on 
sister in about three days. I don’t think they have much inventory in the 
stores unless it’s a size that’s really common/popular.

-D

> On Mar 2, 2018, at 1:40 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> yes, for 14", you have to order the tars in.  It has been that way for 
> several years.  Tarrack, discounttardirect and yurotar all have 14" 
> available, but you have to get them shipped in and mounted.
> 
>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> March 2, 2018 at 12:36 PM
>> I had the same experience at the local tire chains. They had to special
>> order anything in 14 in
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Getting warm. I'm a referee at the Collegiate squash championships being
held at George Washington University today through Sunday. Www.csasquash.com

On Mar 2, 2018 1:26 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Doesn't the wind complicate takeoff/landing more than anything?BOS is
> pretty much at sea level too...
> -Curt
>
>
> On Friday, March 2, 2018, 1:19:31 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  and rain and ice and snow - it's the total package that counts. I've flown
> a little Cessna in 45 mph winds, but there were clear skies . . .
>
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Tell that to my students. BOS is canceling flights with a mere 50mph
> > wind...
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >On Friday, March 2, 2018, 11:44:30 AM EST, G Mann via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >  So, Congress ordered the wind and rain to help drain the swamp... or
> > refill
> > it?
> >
> > {it's sarcasm folks, not political}
> >
> > 100 mph wind is some serious wind. That means airports in the area are
> > closed likely for the day.. business travel, etc, shut down and backed
> > up... but, it's Friday, no need to go home, right?
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > That is gross Dimitri. Cat poo can NOT be any kind of friendly.
> > >
> > > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > > Wickford RI
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 11:31 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Turning coffee grounds and cat poo into eco friendly fireplace logs?
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > > On Mar 2, 2018, at 11:26 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> On 02/03/2018 9:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
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> > anyone
> > > > >> knows what that is.
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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun -- Costco Michelins

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

yes, for 14", you have to order the tars in.  It has been that way for 
several years.  Tarrack, discounttardirect and yurotar all have 14" 
available, but you have to get them shipped in and mounted.



Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
March 2, 2018 at 12:36 PM
I had the same experience at the local tire chains. They had to special
order anything in 14 in




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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun -- Costco Michelins

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I had the same experience at the local tire chains. They had to special
order anything in 14 in

On Mar 2, 2018 11:50 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

There weren’t any 14” listings for the tires I posted for.

-D

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>> On 01/03/2018 8:39 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> The ones on the car must be similar of an earlier vintage
>>
>> Michelin X Radial 195 70R14 90S
>> All season M
>> DOT F1HD RH1X 3209
>>
>> I’ll go by and get a pair. Thanks for the heads up.
>>
>> --FT
> I asked about 14" tires at our local Costco and they looked at me like I
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Aebleskiver and t-shirts and '85 300D

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Omg it drives like a sports car.

On Mar 2, 2018 8:13 AM, "MG via Mercedes"  wrote:

> So you have the smth shift without the benefit of the lower RPM when
> driving. I wouldn't want an 85 transmission unless there were no other
> options.
>
> MG
>
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
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>> I can beat that:  my '83 TD has an '85 transmission.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 4:16 PM, MG via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>
>> So I must have the best of both worlds, an 83 300TD that has an 85
>>> differential in it. I do like that for the lower RPM on the highway but
>>> it
>>> does impact just slightly on the acceleration. The mileage seems to be
>>> very
>>> slightly better with the 85 diff but then it may be just that I've slowed
>>> down a bit.
>>>
>>> I do still have the old transmission in it so the shift has not changed.
>>> I
>>> can still and do like the fact that I can feel it shift.
>>>
>>> Manfred
>>>
>>> Craig via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 01:55:54 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
  wrote:

 Dan G sez:

> ‎So Stu likes the '85 and everyone here >says no.
> Not everyone. I like the '85 123. It is the most refined of all of
> them, and it had the best gearing. Usually, the last model year(s) of a
> production run are the best. The 210's bear this out also, I believe. ‎
>
> So you like them for driving and the others dislike them for fixing.


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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

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Doesn't the wind complicate takeoff/landing more than anything?BOS is pretty 
much at sea level too...
-Curt
 

On Friday, March 2, 2018, 1:19:31 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 and rain and ice and snow - it's the total package that counts. I've flown
a little Cessna in 45 mph winds, but there were clear skies . . .

On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> Tell that to my students. BOS is canceling flights with a mere 50mph
> wind...
> -Curt
>
>
>    On Friday, March 2, 2018, 11:44:30 AM EST, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  So, Congress ordered the wind and rain to help drain the swamp... or
> refill
> it?
>
> {it's sarcasm folks, not political}
>
> 100 mph wind is some serious wind. That means airports in the area are
> closed likely for the day.. business travel, etc, shut down and backed
> up... but, it's Friday, no need to go home, right?
>
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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>
> > That is gross Dimitri. Cat poo can NOT be any kind of friendly.
> >
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> > >
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> > > >> On 02/03/2018 9:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

[OK Don via Mercedes]

and rain and ice and snow - it's the total package that counts. I've flown
a little Cessna in 45 mph winds, but there were clear skies . . .

On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Tell that to my students. BOS is canceling flights with a mere 50mph
> wind...
> -Curt
>
>
> On Friday, March 2, 2018, 11:44:30 AM EST, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  So, Congress ordered the wind and rain to help drain the swamp... or
> refill
> it?
>
> {it's sarcasm folks, not political}
>
> 100 mph wind is some serious wind. That means airports in the area are
> closed likely for the day.. business travel, etc, shut down and backed
> up... but, it's Friday, no need to go home, right?
>
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > That is gross Dimitri. Cat poo can NOT be any kind of friendly.
> >
> > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
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> >
> > On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 11:31 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes <
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> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
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> > > >> On 02/03/2018 9:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

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Squash.  Racquetball is too plebeian.

-D

> On Mar 2, 2018, at 12:49 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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> Playing raquetball?
> 
>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> March 2, 2018 at 9:10 AM
>> Actually I'm working at my other day job today. Bonus points if anyone
>> knows what that is.
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

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Tell that to my students. BOS is canceling flights with a mere 50mph wind...
-Curt
 

On Friday, March 2, 2018, 11:44:30 AM EST, G Mann via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 So, Congress ordered the wind and rain to help drain the swamp... or refill
it?

{it's sarcasm folks, not political}

100 mph wind is some serious wind. That means airports in the area are
closed likely for the day.. business travel, etc, shut down and backed
up... but, it's Friday, no need to go home, right?

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> That is gross Dimitri. Cat poo can NOT be any kind of friendly.
>
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
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>
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 11:31 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
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>
> > Turning coffee grounds and cat poo into eco friendly fireplace logs?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Mar 2, 2018, at 11:26 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> > >
> > >> On 02/03/2018 9:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

50 MPH is just another day in the neighborhood  (Mr Wogers)

Goobers shut down the goobermnt for another 3 day weekend, not because 
of a "storm"

Dan--- via Mercedes 
March 2, 2018 at 11:30 AM
I was talking about the winds we get here in FL, not today’s weenie 
storm. They’re only talking 50 mph winds for that. Meh.


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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Playing raquetball?


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
March 2, 2018 at 9:10 AM
Actually I'm working at my other day job today. Bonus points if anyone
knows what that is.



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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

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On 02/03/2018 9:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Actually I'm working at my other day job today. Bonus points if anyone
knows what that is.



Hey, I know what it is!
He is a Mercedes repair consultant for that other list.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I was talking about the winds we get here in FL, not today’s weenie storm.  
They’re only talking 50 mph winds for that. Meh.

-D

> On Mar 2, 2018, at 11:44 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> So, Congress ordered the wind and rain to help drain the swamp... or refill
> it?
> 
> {it's sarcasm folks, not political}
> 
> 100 mph wind is some serious wind. That means airports in the area are
> closed likely for the day.. business travel, etc, shut down and backed
> up... but, it's Friday, no need to go home, right?
> 
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> That is gross Dimitri. Cat poo can NOT be any kind of friendly.
>> 
>> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 11:31 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Turning coffee grounds and cat poo into eco friendly fireplace logs?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 2, 2018, at 11:26 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> On 02/03/2018 9:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> Actually I'm working at my other day job today. Bonus points if anyone
> knows what that is.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun -- Costco Michelins

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There weren’t any 14” listings for the tires I posted for.

-D

> On Mar 2, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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> 
>> On 01/03/2018 8:39 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> The ones on the car must be similar of an earlier vintage
>> 
>> Michelin X Radial 195 70R14 90S
>> All season M
>> DOT F1HD RH1X 3209
>> 
>> I’ll go by and get a pair. Thanks for the heads up.
>> 
>> --FT
> I asked about 14" tires at our local Costco and they looked at me like I came 
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

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So, Congress ordered the wind and rain to help drain the swamp... or refill
it?

{it's sarcasm folks, not political}

100 mph wind is some serious wind. That means airports in the area are
closed likely for the day.. business travel, etc, shut down and backed
up... but, it's Friday, no need to go home, right?

On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> That is gross Dimitri. Cat poo can NOT be any kind of friendly.
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> > >> On 02/03/2018 9:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

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That is gross Dimitri. Cat poo can NOT be any kind of friendly.

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On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 11:31 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes  wrote:

> Turning coffee grounds and cat poo into eco friendly fireplace logs?
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> >> On 02/03/2018 9:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

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On 02/03/2018 10:28 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote:

Poor Andrew! I think he’s the most abused member on this list!



I think he enjoys the attention.

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

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Turning coffee grounds and cat poo into eco friendly fireplace logs?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 2, 2018, at 11:26 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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>> On 02/03/2018 9:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Actually I'm working at my other day job today. Bonus points if anyone
>> knows what that is.
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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun -- Costco Michelins

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On 01/03/2018 8:39 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

The ones on the car must be similar of an earlier vintage

Michelin X Radial 195 70R14 90S
All season M
DOT F1HD RH1X 3209

I’ll go by and get a pair. Thanks for the heads up.

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

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Poor Andrew! I think he’s the most abused member on this list!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 2, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> Turning el merde del gato into peppers
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>> On 3/2/18 10:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>> Actually I'm working at my other day job today. Bonus points if anyone knows 
>> what that is.
>> 
>> On Mar 2, 2018 9:43 AM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" > > wrote:
>> 
>>Did Chuckie shut down the gummint again today?  3-day weekend?
>> 
>>--FT
>> 
>> 
>>On 3/2/18 9:34 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>>Ouch!
>> 
>>-D
>> 
>>On Mar 2, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>Dan sez:
>> 
>>Since Andrew has the day off, he can watch >the BAT
>>auction for the finnie
>> 
>>If Andrew indeed has the day off, he won't be surfing the
>>web. That's what work is for.
>> 
>>:)
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

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On 02/03/2018 9:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Actually I'm working at my other day job today. Bonus points if anyone
knows what that is.


Composing Tweets for the President

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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

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B
 

On Friday, March 2, 2018, 10:28:23 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 So you're a procotorologist?

--FT


On 3/2/18 10:26 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> My wife didn't want me to go to work today, she said it was too bad. My 
> commute in was the best its been all week. Apparently other guys stay home 
> when their wife says the weather is bad.
> I'm going to try to leave before noon, I don't want to be out driving if it 
> turns cold but I had to be in this morning to proctor the exam for my 
> students...
>
> -Curt
>  
>
>      On Friday, March 2, 2018, 10:23:15 AM EST, Dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>  
>  Nah, they’re pussing out over some little winter storm. Weenies.
>
> 100 mph winds and torrential rains? That’s a STORM, man.
>
> -D
>
> -D
>
>> On Mar 2, 2018, at 9:43 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Did Chuckie shut down the gummint again today?  3-day weekend?
>>
>> --FT
>>
>>
>>> On 3/2/18 9:34 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Ouch!
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
 On Mar 2, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
  wrote:

 Dan sez:

> Since Andrew has the day off, he can watch >the BAT auction for the finnie
 If Andrew indeed has the day off, he won't be surfing the web. That's what 
 work is for.

 :)


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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

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So you're a procotorologist?

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On 3/2/18 10:26 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

My wife didn't want me to go to work today, she said it was too bad. My commute 
in was the best its been all week. Apparently other guys stay home when their 
wife says the weather is bad.
I'm going to try to leave before noon, I don't want to be out driving if it 
turns cold but I had to be in this morning to proctor the exam for my 
students...

-Curt
  


 On Friday, March 2, 2018, 10:23:15 AM EST, Dan--- via Mercedes 
 wrote:
  
  Nah, they’re pussing out over some little winter storm. Weenies.


100 mph winds and torrential rains? That’s a STORM, man.

-D

-D


On Mar 2, 2018, at 9:43 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
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Did Chuckie shut down the gummint again today?  3-day weekend?

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On 3/2/18 9:34 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
Ouch!

-D


On Mar 2, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
wrote:

Dan sez:


Since Andrew has the day off, he can watch >the BAT auction for the finnie

If Andrew indeed has the day off, he won't be surfing the web. That's what work 
is for.

:)


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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

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My wife didn't want me to go to work today, she said it was too bad. My commute 
in was the best its been all week. Apparently other guys stay home when their 
wife says the weather is bad.
I'm going to try to leave before noon, I don't want to be out driving if it 
turns cold but I had to be in this morning to proctor the exam for my 
students...

-Curt
 

On Friday, March 2, 2018, 10:23:15 AM EST, Dan--- via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Nah, they’re pussing out over some little winter storm. Weenies.

100 mph winds and torrential rains? That’s a STORM, man.

-D

-D

> On Mar 2, 2018, at 9:43 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Did Chuckie shut down the gummint again today?  3-day weekend?
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 3/2/18 9:34 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> Ouch!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 2, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dan sez:
>>> 
 Since Andrew has the day off, he can watch >the BAT auction for the finnie
>>> If Andrew indeed has the day off, he won't be surfing the web. That's what 
>>> work is for.
>>> 
>>> :)
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

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Nah, they’re pussing out over some little winter storm. Weenies.

100 mph winds and torrential rains? That’s a STORM, man.

-D

-D

> On Mar 2, 2018, at 9:43 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> Did Chuckie shut down the gummint again today?  3-day weekend?
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 3/2/18 9:34 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> Ouch!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 2, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dan sez:
>>> 
 Since Andrew has the day off, he can watch >the BAT auction for the finnie
>>> If Andrew indeed has the day off, he won't be surfing the web. That's what 
>>> work is for.
>>> 
>>> :)
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

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Turning el merde del gato into peppers

--FT


On 3/2/18 10:10 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Actually I'm working at my other day job today. Bonus points if anyone 
knows what that is.


On Mar 2, 2018 9:43 AM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" 
> wrote:


Did Chuckie shut down the gummint again today?  3-day weekend?

--FT


On 3/2/18 9:34 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

Ouch!

-D

On Mar 2, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> wrote:

Dan sez:

Since Andrew has the day off, he can watch >the BAT
auction for the finnie

If Andrew indeed has the day off, he won't be surfing the
web. That's what work is for.

:)


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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

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Actually I'm working at my other day job today. Bonus points if anyone
knows what that is.

On Mar 2, 2018 9:43 AM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" 
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> Did Chuckie shut down the gummint again today?  3-day weekend?
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 3/2/18 9:34 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
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>> Ouch!
>>
>> -D
>>
>> On Mar 2, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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>>> Dan sez:
>>>
>>> Since Andrew has the day off, he can watch >the BAT auction for the
 finnie

>>> If Andrew indeed has the day off, he won't be surfing the web. That's
>>> what work is for.
>>>
>>> :)
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Re: [MBZ] I need Albore's LIST MOM's opinion on this E300dizzel

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

This weekend and next are no good, I've got a certification exam in two
weeks (for work), need to study up.  I think I've also got one or two
airbags to light off.

That "burn out the carbon" idea does sound like a lot of fun!  You need to
make a video, first line is "Hold ma beer and watch this!".

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> damn.   That sounds like some fun.  I might have to do that. Could use
> some bbq lighter fluid or something too I guess, put a torch to it.
>
> I have an old airbag here too, could blow some sh*t up and do some fire
> and whatnot, maybe even shoot some guns.  Max what's your weekend looking
> like?
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

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Did Chuckie shut down the gummint again today?  3-day weekend?

--FT


On 3/2/18 9:34 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

Ouch!

-D


On Mar 2, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
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Dan sez:


Since Andrew has the day off, he can watch >the BAT auction for the finnie

If Andrew indeed has the day off, he won't be surfing the web. That's what work 
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:)


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Re: [MBZ] I need Albore's LIST MOM's opinion on this E300dizzel

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

damn.   That sounds like some fun.  I might have to do that. Could use 
some bbq lighter fluid or something too I guess, put a torch to it.


I have an old airbag here too, could blow some sh*t up and do some fire 
and whatnot, maybe even shoot some guns.  Max what's your weekend 
looking like?


--FT


On 3/2/18 8:40 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Thats how they clean intake manifolds on TDIs when they get all carboned up. 
I'm not sure they use carb cleaner, I think they just heat them until the 
carbon catches fire, its all oil soaked anyway...
The videos are pretty cool.

-Curt
  


 On Friday, March 2, 2018, 12:35:39 AM EST, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
 wrote:
  
  I think you can squirt some carb cleaner in, light it on fire, then feed it

compressed air from a gun until all the crud is burned out. I posted a
video link to it one time.

On Feb 27, 2018 11:19 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I have 5 new glow plugs that need a new home.  Let me know offlist if
interested.

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Yeah I should get that thing and try it out.  I have a 12-2 mtg on
Thursday so can't make lunch then but we can get organized at some time.

I

guess I should just put it back together and see how it runs, then deal
with the plugs if it doesn't run well.

--FT



On 2/27/18 11:11 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:


Have you tested the GPs?  I've got an ammeter rigged up with heavy wire

so

you can watch the current spike and then drop as they heat up.  We should
do lunch, maybe Thursday, and I can loan you the tool.

Drop off the manifold for a hot tank dip to clean it out?  I wonder if
Star
Motors has one, Simmons Machine Shop is also on your side of the rivers
and
they've got one for sure.  Personally I don't think that is required in
most cases, but for piece of mind it would be fun.  My old 123.190 had a
really gunked up intake manifold, but the stuff would slowly migrate to
the
intake valves and so occasionally it would suck in a bit, and expel

chunks

out the exhaust while sounding pretty rough and missing a bit.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

So I took off the manifold and cleaned up the EGR and got it working OK

(at least it opens and closes with vacuum, not sure if the car systems
are
working to make it do that).  It was throwing EGR and glow plug codes, I
read some other reports that suggest the EGR might somehow lead to the
generation of GP codes, so if that is the case then I probably wouldn't
need to fool with the GPs.  Not sure why bad GPs would make the car run
bad
once it starts anyway, it starts mostly OK with a good charge on the
battree so that suggests the GPs might be mostly OK too.

There is also a bypass method to jumper some wires on the EGR so it

won't

be EGRing and doing all that business, I might do that too if the car
still
doesn't run right.

I have not put the manifold back on yet, I was waiting to get some Kroil
and keep dosing the GPs with it, but the suggested procedure is to run

it

and get it hot to make them easier to get out, which means the manifold
needs to be on there for the car to run, and it would have to come off a
hot engine which would not be a lot of fun, but it is mostly easy except
for the clamp holding the turbo output tube onto the manifold.

Albore's LIST MOM's opinion aside, I guess I should just put it back
together and see if it runs better now, and if it does then not fool

with

the GPs.  I'd have to do that anyway, so I guess I will.

BTW the EGR was completely buggered up with diesel soot and crud, took a
lot of scraping and brushing with little wire brushes and degreaser to
get
it clean.  I put some purple degreaser stuff in the manifold and let it
sit
for a coupla days, not sure that loosened anything out of the manifold,
but
I managed to scrape some stuff from the ends I could reach.  What I
poured
out was pretty nasty though, so maybe something came out of it.  If I
had a
pressure washer I probably could have blasted a lot out.  It is not
completely clogged so I think it will be OK.  The EGR concept is
completely
stupid.

This was something of a pointless sharing, but I guess it got my

thinking

thought through.

--
--FT (who likes the recent local warming thought it is making the tree
pollen go crazy now, and my respiratory system go crazy)


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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun -- Costco Michelins -- bundts 123/126?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Do 123 bundts fit on the 126?

--R


On 3/1/18 10:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I only buy H rated tires for my 123 wagon.  The $55 Kumho Sense are holding
up well after 4 years.  195X70Hx14.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Maybe I should get a costco membership



On 3/1/2018 9:15 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:


Hmm, Angie's golf needs new summer tires...
Curt

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  On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes<
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   The Michelin X Tour A/S T in 195/65-15
are $86.49/each, $345.96 for the set plus $60 for installation through the
4th.  Don’t know if you’ll see the screen shot below:



The SD will have 14” tires, correct?

-D



On Mar 1, 2018, at 5:44 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Tell me about the Michelins -- the LF tire on the SD went bad -- really
warn on inside and outside down to cords and the belt separated almost all
around the inside and some on the outside. Kinda weird, like it had run
really low inflation for a long time but it has been aired up OK.  I had
only seen the outside edge so was also thinking maybe the camber adjustment
had gone wonky on that side, and was going to get the alignment checked,
but now it looks like something else.  Maybe the tire itself went bad, they
are maybe 4 years old, still a lot of tread left.  Anyway, I need to get a
coupla tires to replace that one and I guess the other front one too, use
the other one for a spare now.

I'll probably go by Costco tomorrow so can take the tires and see what
they have but if you can fill me in that would be good.

--FT


On 3/1/18 10:27 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:


Costco has a really good deal on Michelins, so I’ll head up there and
get a set ordered.


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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Ouch!

-D

> On Mar 2, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dan sez:
> 
>> Since Andrew has the day off, he can watch >the BAT auction for the finnie
> 
> If Andrew indeed has the day off, he won't be surfing the web. That's what 
> work is for. 
> 
> :)
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

 Dan sez:

>Since Andrew has the day off, he can watch >the BAT auction for the finnie

 If Andrew indeed has the day off, he won't be surfing the web. That's what 
work is for. 

:)


  
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[MBZ] Andrew’s Day Off

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Since Andrew has the day off, he can watch the BAT auction for the finnie and 
see what it goes for.  It’s up to about $7,500 right now, I’m thinking it will 
end with a hammer price around $10k.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] I need Albore's LIST MOM's opinion on this E300dizzel

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Thats how they clean intake manifolds on TDIs when they get all carboned up. 
I'm not sure they use carb cleaner, I think they just heat them until the 
carbon catches fire, its all oil soaked anyway...
The videos are pretty cool.

-Curt
 

On Friday, March 2, 2018, 12:35:39 AM EST, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I think you can squirt some carb cleaner in, light it on fire, then feed it
compressed air from a gun until all the crud is burned out. I posted a
video link to it one time.

On Feb 27, 2018 11:19 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I have 5 new glow plugs that need a new home.  Let me know offlist if
interested.

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yeah I should get that thing and try it out.  I have a 12-2 mtg on
> Thursday so can't make lunch then but we can get organized at some time.
I
> guess I should just put it back together and see how it runs, then deal
> with the plugs if it doesn't run well.
>
> --FT
>
>
>
> On 2/27/18 11:11 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Have you tested the GPs?  I've got an ammeter rigged up with heavy wire
so
>> you can watch the current spike and then drop as they heat up.  We should
>> do lunch, maybe Thursday, and I can loan you the tool.
>>
>> Drop off the manifold for a hot tank dip to clean it out?  I wonder if
>> Star
>> Motors has one, Simmons Machine Shop is also on your side of the rivers
>> and
>> they've got one for sure.  Personally I don't think that is required in
>> most cases, but for piece of mind it would be fun.  My old 123.190 had a
>> really gunked up intake manifold, but the stuff would slowly migrate to
>> the
>> intake valves and so occasionally it would suck in a bit, and expel
chunks
>> out the exhaust while sounding pretty rough and missing a bit.
>>
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> So I took off the manifold and cleaned up the EGR and got it working OK
>>> (at least it opens and closes with vacuum, not sure if the car systems
>>> are
>>> working to make it do that).  It was throwing EGR and glow plug codes, I
>>> read some other reports that suggest the EGR might somehow lead to the
>>> generation of GP codes, so if that is the case then I probably wouldn't
>>> need to fool with the GPs.  Not sure why bad GPs would make the car run
>>> bad
>>> once it starts anyway, it starts mostly OK with a good charge on the
>>> battree so that suggests the GPs might be mostly OK too.
>>>
>>> There is also a bypass method to jumper some wires on the EGR so it
won't
>>> be EGRing and doing all that business, I might do that too if the car
>>> still
>>> doesn't run right.
>>>
>>> I have not put the manifold back on yet, I was waiting to get some Kroil
>>> and keep dosing the GPs with it, but the suggested procedure is to run
it
>>> and get it hot to make them easier to get out, which means the manifold
>>> needs to be on there for the car to run, and it would have to come off a
>>> hot engine which would not be a lot of fun, but it is mostly easy except
>>> for the clamp holding the turbo output tube onto the manifold.
>>>
>>> Albore's LIST MOM's opinion aside, I guess I should just put it back
>>> together and see if it runs better now, and if it does then not fool
with
>>> the GPs.  I'd have to do that anyway, so I guess I will.
>>>
>>> BTW the EGR was completely buggered up with diesel soot and crud, took a
>>> lot of scraping and brushing with little wire brushes and degreaser to
>>> get
>>> it clean.  I put some purple degreaser stuff in the manifold and let it
>>> sit
>>> for a coupla days, not sure that loosened anything out of the manifold,
>>> but
>>> I managed to scrape some stuff from the ends I could reach.  What I
>>> poured
>>> out was pretty nasty though, so maybe something came out of it.  If I
>>> had a
>>> pressure washer I probably could have blasted a lot out.  It is not
>>> completely clogged so I think it will be OK.  The EGR concept is
>>> completely
>>> stupid.
>>>
>>> This was something of a pointless sharing, but I guess it got my
thinking
>>> thought through.
>>>
>>> --
>>> --FT (who likes the recent local warming thought it is making the tree
>>> pollen go crazy now, and my respiratory system go crazy)
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun -- Costco Michelins

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Find somebody that already has one and offer to buy lunch...
We don't have a Costco close enough to make it worth us having a membership...

-Curt
 

On Thursday, March 1, 2018, 10:17:23 PM EST, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Maybe I should get a costco membership


On 3/1/2018 9:15 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Hmm, Angie's golf needs new summer tires...
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>  
>    On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:45 PM, Dan Penoff via 
>Mercedes wrote:  The Michelin X Tour A/S T in 
>195/65-15 are $86.49/each, $345.96 for the set plus $60 for installation 
>through the 4th.  Don’t know if you’ll see the screen shot below:
>
>
>
> The SD will have 14” tires, correct?
>
> -D
>
>
>
>> On Mar 1, 2018, at 5:44 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Tell me about the Michelins -- the LF tire on the SD went bad -- really warn 
>> on inside and outside down to cords and the belt separated almost all around 
>> the inside and some on the outside. Kinda weird, like it had run really low 
>> inflation for a long time but it has been aired up OK.  I had only seen the 
>> outside edge so was also thinking maybe the camber adjustment had gone wonky 
>> on that side, and was going to get the alignment checked, but now it looks 
>> like something else.  Maybe the tire itself went bad, they are maybe 4 years 
>> old, still a lot of tread left.  Anyway, I need to get a coupla tires to 
>> replace that one and I guess the other front one too, use the other one for 
>> a spare now.
>>
>> I'll probably go by Costco tomorrow so can take the tires and see what they 
>> have but if you can fill me in that would be good.
>>
>> --FT
>>
>>
>> On 3/1/18 10:27 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Costco has a really good deal on Michelins, so I’ll head up there and get a 
>>> set ordered.
>> -- 
>> --FT
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun -- Costco Michelins

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Interesting. I knew that the Grabber AT2s I put on the Dodge were good in the 
snow, I'm pleased to see them in the list of All Weather tires.
-Curt
 

On Thursday, March 1, 2018, 9:21:44 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 
I learned something new today.
3PMSF, or Three Peak Mountain SnowFlake.

https://blog.caranddriver.com/all-weather-tires-explained-merging-all-seasons-and-winter-tires/


https://tires.tirerack.com/search?asug==list=3pmsf

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Aebleskiver and t-shirts and '85 300D

[MG via Mercedes]

So you have the smth shift without the benefit of the lower 
RPM when driving. I wouldn't want an 85 transmission unless there 
were no other options.


MG

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I can beat that:  my '83 TD has an '85 transmission.

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 4:16 PM, MG via Mercedes 
wrote:


So I must have the best of both worlds, an 83 300TD that has an 85
differential in it. I do like that for the lower RPM on the highway but it
does impact just slightly on the acceleration. The mileage seems to be very
slightly better with the 85 diff but then it may be just that I've slowed
down a bit.

I do still have the old transmission in it so the shift has not changed. I
can still and do like the fact that I can feel it shift.

Manfred

Craig via Mercedes wrote:


On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 01:55:54 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

Dan G sez:

‎So Stu likes the '85 and everyone here >says no.
Not everyone. I like the '85 123. It is the most refined of all of
them, and it had the best gearing. Usually, the last model year(s) of a
production run are the best. The 210's bear this out also, I believe. ‎


So you like them for driving and the others dislike them for fixing.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] I need Albore's LIST MOM's opinion on this E300dizzel

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

That sounds like fun!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 2, 2018 12:35:29 AM EST, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>I think you can squirt some carb cleaner in, light it on fire, then
>feed it
>compressed air from a gun until all the crud is burned out. I posted a
>video link to it one time.
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun -- Costco Michelins

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Hankooks working well over here, but no snow driving. Seem like reasonable
tires for the money.

On Mar 1, 2018 7:45 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I only buy H rated tires for my 123 wagon.  The $55 Kumho Sense are holding
> up well after 4 years.  195X70Hx14.
>
> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Maybe I should get a costco membership
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/1/2018 9:15 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> Hmm, Angie's golf needs new summer tires...
> >> Curt
> >>
> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >>  On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes<
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   The Michelin X Tour A/S T in
> 195/65-15
> >> are $86.49/each, $345.96 for the set plus $60 for installation through
> the
> >> 4th.  Don’t know if you’ll see the screen shot below:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The SD will have 14” tires, correct?
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 1, 2018, at 5:44 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Tell me about the Michelins -- the LF tire on the SD went bad -- really
> >>> warn on inside and outside down to cords and the belt separated almost
> all
> >>> around the inside and some on the outside. Kinda weird, like it had run
> >>> really low inflation for a long time but it has been aired up OK.  I
> had
> >>> only seen the outside edge so was also thinking maybe the camber
> adjustment
> >>> had gone wonky on that side, and was going to get the alignment
> checked,
> >>> but now it looks like something else.  Maybe the tire itself went bad,
> they
> >>> are maybe 4 years old, still a lot of tread left.  Anyway, I need to
> get a
> >>> coupla tires to replace that one and I guess the other front one too,
> use
> >>> the other one for a spare now.
> >>>
> >>> I'll probably go by Costco tomorrow so can take the tires and see what
> >>> they have but if you can fill me in that would be good.
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 3/1/18 10:27 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>
>  Costco has a really good deal on Michelins, so I’ll head up there and
>  get a set ordered.
> 
> >>> --
> >>> --FT
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