Re: [MBZ] OT: One less diesel

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Sorry to hear that, Jim, but thankfully no one got hurt. Hope your insco treats 
you right.
Gerry

> My son was driving, his first long-distance freeway trip.  Learner's
> permit.  My beautiful 1997 dodge diesel pickup, 110kmi on it, is no more.
>  (Probably.)  I _loved_ that truck, and intended to drive it forever.  It
> was arguably our most valuable vehicle, and was the second newest.
> Destroyed by pounding across a 3' ditch coming off the freeway, changing to
> highway 18 off of I-90.  We're fine.  Wheels bent backwards into front
> wells, oil pan cracked, etc.  Airbag did not go off, we went up in the air
> more than stopped.  Expect insco to try to screw us, the truck was
> immaculate inside.  No wear on seats, etc.
> 
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[MBZ] OT: One less diesel

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

My son was driving, his first long-distance freeway trip.  Learner's
permit.  My beautiful 1997 dodge diesel pickup, 110kmi on it, is no more.
 (Probably.)  I _loved_ that truck, and intended to drive it forever.  It
was arguably our most valuable vehicle, and was the second newest.
Destroyed by pounding across a 3' ditch coming off the freeway, changing to
highway 18 off of I-90.  We're fine.  Wheels bent backwards into front
wells, oil pan cracked, etc.  Airbag did not go off, we went up in the air
more than stopped.  Expect insco to try to screw us, the truck was
immaculate inside.  No wear on seats, etc.

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Re: [MBZ] Inner door liner

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

3M Spray 77.  Will pull loose again when you need it to.

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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Permatex #2 cleaning

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Paint stripper was next, but I scraped/abraded it enough to be 
passable.  What a waste of time!   The alcohol did soften it somewhat, 
but not enough to wipe the $ hit off.



tyee165 via Mercedes 
April 1, 2018 at 9:26 PM
Will heat soften it?
How about paint remover?



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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Permatex #2 cleaning

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

Will heat soften it?
How about paint remover?


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 Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 Date: 2018-04-01  12:43 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re:  Permatex #2 cleaning 
Well so much for the official word from spermatex.  Soaked over 12 hours 
in isopropyl alcohol.  no softening at all.  The $hit is bad on cast 
iron, but at least on iron you can take a wire wheel to it.  On aluminum 
it is pure awful.

> Rdeafboy via Mercedes 
> April 1, 2018 at 9:20 AM
> lacquer thinner ...work at it in pieces removal
>
>
>
> Bob

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Re: [MBZ] Painting Bundts

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Thanks, Mitch - that sounds familiar.

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 8:34 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> > On April 1, 2018 at 6:56 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Not in DC.  Check yer county.
>
> I didn't think of anti-graffiti laws, but some places do have controls on
> spray paint sales.
>
> As far as federal law is concerned, pressurized spray cans are ORM-D
> materials, OK for ground shipping but not to be placed on aircraft. The box
> should be clearly labeled so that Fedex or USPS doesn't decide to use them
> to fill up an airplane's cargo hold.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Painting Bundts

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> On April 1, 2018 at 6:56 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Not in DC.  Check yer county.

I didn't think of anti-graffiti laws, but some places do have controls on spray 
paint sales.  

As far as federal law is concerned, pressurized spray cans are ORM-D materials, 
OK for ground shipping but not to be placed on aircraft. The box should be 
clearly labeled so that Fedex or USPS doesn't decide to use them to fill up an 
airplane's cargo hold. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Painting Bundts

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

It sure can.  I got a box of rattle can last summer off fleabay

clay 

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1986 SDL - Polei
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1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Apr 1, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Can aerosol paint be shipped to a residence?
> 
> On Apr 1, 2018 12:16 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
>> The Würth paint is the only thing I’ve ever seen that is a direct match to
>> the factory silver.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2018, at 11:08 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> what kind/color most closely matches the OE?
>>> 
>>> LarryT
>>> 
>>> 91 300D (still haven't taken it anywhere for a answer to the problem
>> question - more health problems)
>>> 
>>> 06 E350
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Permatex #2 cleaning

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

MEK was essentially outlawed in the 80s.   MEKP is as close as you can 
get now, AFIK.  It works to make bonds in acrylic plastic sheet.


If you have access to chem stores at a major research  U, you might be 
able to get some.  However the one I used to get stuff from changed 
policy.  there are no cash sales.  Stuff only can be purchased on a U 
account, and those are heavily audited.  Even glass/plastic wares.

Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
April 1, 2018 at 5:36 PM
I haven't been able to get real MEK. I had a Por15 tank seal gone 
wrong which can supposedly be dissolved with MEK. It can't be 
dissolved with "MEK substitute"...

Curt



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Re: [MBZ] Painting Bundts

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Not in DC.  Check yer county.


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
April 1, 2018 at 5:32 PM
Can aerosol paint be shipped to a residence?

On Apr 1, 2018 12:16 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
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Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
April 1, 2018 at 11:16 AM
The Würth paint is the only thing I’ve ever seen that is a direct 
match to the factory silver.


-D




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Larry Turner via Mercedes 
April 1, 2018 at 10:08 AM
what kind/color most closely matches the OE?

LarryT

91 300D (still haven't taken it anywhere for a answer to the problem 
question - more health problems)


06 E350





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Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
March 29, 2018 at 4:24 AM
I’ve never chemically stripped one, only sand or bead blasted if I 
took old paint off. If it’s intact I just prep it the best I can and 
paint over.


Dan



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clay monroe via Mercedes 
March 28, 2018 at 9:19 PM
I used airplane stripper to get down to bare metal. It is a huge PITA, 
as it needs to be kept covered long enough for the product to work.


Do not sand blast. A person could soda blast it or bead/walnut.

Now, the biggest removal need I have is getting brake debris/dust to 
go away. Brass wheel can do a great job scuffing through that. Then 
work up the abrasive paper tree to 400 grit.


clay

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1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

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1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers









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Re: [MBZ] Painting Bundts

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Yup.
Curt

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Mercedes wrote:   Can aerosol paint be shipped to a 
residence?

On Apr 1, 2018 12:16 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> The Würth paint is the only thing I’ve ever seen that is a direct match to
> the factory silver.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Apr 1, 2018, at 11:08 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > what kind/color most closely matches the OE?
> >
> > LarryT
> >
> > 91 300D (still haven't taken it anywhere for a answer to the problem
> question - more health problems)
> >
> > 06 E350
> >
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Permatex #2 cleaning

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I haven't been able to get real MEK. I had a Por15 tank seal gone wrong which 
can supposedly be dissolved with MEK. It can't be dissolved with "MEK 
substitute"...
Curt

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  On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 11:20 AM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:   If acetone won't do it, try MEK next . . .

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 11:14 AM, fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Curley wrote:
>
> > Been scraping for hours on gaskets some genius glued down with
> > permatex 1 or 2.  Someone had a solvent for this #2.
>
> I would try acetone.
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Re: [MBZ] Painting Bundts

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Can aerosol paint be shipped to a residence?

On Apr 1, 2018 12:16 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> The Würth paint is the only thing I’ve ever seen that is a direct match to
> the factory silver.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Apr 1, 2018, at 11:08 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > what kind/color most closely matches the OE?
> >
> > LarryT
> >
> > 91 300D (still haven't taken it anywhere for a answer to the problem
> question - more health problems)
> >
> > 06 E350
> >
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Winders question

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> > archer75--- wrote:
> 
> > The last time I tried Linux, if you wanted to go to some file or
> > do something, it would tell you to go to the command line and
> > type in some string of characters and numbers. Since that was
> > years ago, I'm wondering if some flavors of Linux have gotten
> > out of that habit and actually become user friendly. Gerry 
> 
> Some of us think the command line _is_ user friendly and the GUI
> is an annoying, clumsy, limited, and unfriendly way to interact
> with a computer. *smiles*

Since you're a computer guy, that's understandable. 
I may be wrong, but I think the majority are more comfortable with gui's.
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Re: [MBZ] Coupe is sold

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

He paid, I gave him a bill of sale and the title.


On 4/1/2018 4:44 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Did the guy pay you, bill of sale, etc so he won’t walk away?

--R
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On Apr 1, 2018, at 5:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

Sometimes it’s just best to cut your losses and move the car. I’ve had a few 
like that - just glad to see them pulling out of the driveway…

-D



On Apr 1, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
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Congrats on the sale, sounds like you're happy to be done with it.
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'95 E300


On April 1, 2018 11:21:47 AM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
First guy that called and came look at it bought it. I broke even but
thank god I’m out of that car. The minority fellow I bought it off of
got one over on me good. I was off my game that day. The trunk lid had
the bolts missing on the passenger side by where the tree fell on the
back glass. I just thought they probably removed them for whatever
reason for the back glass deal. I installed them yesterday and the
trunk lid does not line up on the right side. It’s pushed back about
half an inch or less. It appears to me it’s because the hinge on that
side probably got bent out in the tree incident. As I was giving the
guy the Texas title that the guy gave me that he got from the guy he
bought it off of who’s name is on the title signed the front but not
the back. On Texas titles the owner signs the front then signs the back
when sold. So basically the car did not have a valid title. Crap. I
missed that. Rookie move in my part. The guy buying the car said he
could handle it. Good deal. Anyway, he is a foreigner of some sort who
just moved here for his company. Whatever, I didn’t ask question. He
paid, I gave him the title. He wants to leave it here for about 3 weeks
until he has room. I offered to haul it to Tulsa for him. That car just
seemed like a turd, but a clean turd. I don’t know I was just turned
off by that car.

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Re: [MBZ] Coupe is sold

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Did the guy pay you, bill of sale, etc so he won’t walk away?

--R
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> On Apr 1, 2018, at 5:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Sometimes it’s just best to cut your losses and move the car. I’ve had a few 
> like that - just glad to see them pulling out of the driveway… 
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Congrats on the sale, sounds like you're happy to be done with it.
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
>>> On April 1, 2018 11:21:47 AM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> First guy that called and came look at it bought it. I broke even but
>>> thank god I’m out of that car. The minority fellow I bought it off of
>>> got one over on me good. I was off my game that day. The trunk lid had
>>> the bolts missing on the passenger side by where the tree fell on the
>>> back glass. I just thought they probably removed them for whatever
>>> reason for the back glass deal. I installed them yesterday and the
>>> trunk lid does not line up on the right side. It’s pushed back about
>>> half an inch or less. It appears to me it’s because the hinge on that
>>> side probably got bent out in the tree incident. As I was giving the
>>> guy the Texas title that the guy gave me that he got from the guy he
>>> bought it off of who’s name is on the title signed the front but not
>>> the back. On Texas titles the owner signs the front then signs the back
>>> when sold. So basically the car did not have a valid title. Crap. I
>>> missed that. Rookie move in my part. The guy buying the car said he
>>> could handle it. Good deal. Anyway, he is a foreigner of some sort who
>>> just moved here for his company. Whatever, I didn’t ask question. He
>>> paid, I gave him the title. He wants to leave it here for about 3 weeks
>>> until he has room. I offered to haul it to Tulsa for him. That car just
>>> seemed like a turd, but a clean turd. I don’t know I was just turned
>>> off by that car. 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Permatex #2 cleaning

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Acetone straight... couple paper towels over the offending area wet
with acetone... cover with plastic wrap to retard evaporation let it
soak a "while" and try removal while still damp on unmasking.

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:43 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> Well so much for the official word from spermatex.  Soaked over 12 hours
> in isopropyl alcohol.  no softening at all.  The $hit is bad on cast iron,
> but at least on iron you can take a wire wheel to it.  On aluminum it is
> pure awful.
>
> Rdeafboy via Mercedes 
>> April 1, 2018 at 9:20 AM
>>
>> lacquer thinner ...work at it in pieces removal
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob
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Re: [MBZ] Coupe is sold

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Sometimes it’s just best to cut your losses and move the car. I’ve had a few 
like that - just glad to see them pulling out of the driveway… 

-D


> On Apr 1, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Congrats on the sale, sounds like you're happy to be done with it.
> -- 
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> Charleston SC
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> '95 E300
> 
> On April 1, 2018 11:21:47 AM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
>> First guy that called and came look at it bought it. I broke even but
>> thank god I’m out of that car. The minority fellow I bought it off of
>> got one over on me good. I was off my game that day. The trunk lid had
>> the bolts missing on the passenger side by where the tree fell on the
>> back glass. I just thought they probably removed them for whatever
>> reason for the back glass deal. I installed them yesterday and the
>> trunk lid does not line up on the right side. It’s pushed back about
>> half an inch or less. It appears to me it’s because the hinge on that
>> side probably got bent out in the tree incident. As I was giving the
>> guy the Texas title that the guy gave me that he got from the guy he
>> bought it off of who’s name is on the title signed the front but not
>> the back. On Texas titles the owner signs the front then signs the back
>> when sold. So basically the car did not have a valid title. Crap. I
>> missed that. Rookie move in my part. The guy buying the car said he
>> could handle it. Good deal. Anyway, he is a foreigner of some sort who
>> just moved here for his company. Whatever, I didn’t ask question. He
>> paid, I gave him the title. He wants to leave it here for about 3 weeks
>> until he has room. I offered to haul it to Tulsa for him. That car just
>> seemed like a turd, but a clean turd. I don’t know I was just turned
>> off by that car. 
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Re: [MBZ] Coupe is sold

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Congrats on the sale, sounds like you're happy to be done with it.
-- 
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Charleston SC
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On April 1, 2018 11:21:47 AM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>First guy that called and came look at it bought it. I broke even but
>thank god I’m out of that car. The minority fellow I bought it off of
>got one over on me good. I was off my game that day. The trunk lid had
>the bolts missing on the passenger side by where the tree fell on the
>back glass. I just thought they probably removed them for whatever
>reason for the back glass deal. I installed them yesterday and the
>trunk lid does not line up on the right side. It’s pushed back about
>half an inch or less. It appears to me it’s because the hinge on that
>side probably got bent out in the tree incident. As I was giving the
>guy the Texas title that the guy gave me that he got from the guy he
>bought it off of who’s name is on the title signed the front but not
>the back. On Texas titles the owner signs the front then signs the back
>when sold. So basically the car did not have a valid title. Crap. I
>missed that. Rookie move in my part. The guy buying the car said he
>could handle it. Good deal. Anyway, he is a foreigner of some sort who
>just moved here for his company. Whatever, I didn’t ask question. He
>paid, I gave him the title. He wants to leave it here for about 3 weeks
>until he has room. I offered to haul it to Tulsa for him. That car just
>seemed like a turd, but a clean turd. I don’t know I was just turned
>off by that car. 
>
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Easter!

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I was thinking yesterday how it is interesting that Easter has kinds mashed up 
this stuff about eggs and rabbits and I am thinking too the vernal equinox 
close by, which are about fertility and birth and rebirth (in the spring) so it 
seems a lot of pagan and Christianity and whatever Roman stuff was going on a 
coupla thousand years ago

--FT (not a religious scholar but was apparently fertile 2X)
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> On Apr 1, 2018, at 4:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Well, while I like the idea,
> 
> https://bellejar.ca/2013/03/28/easter-is-not-named-after-ishtar-and-other-truths-i-have-to-tell-you/
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 3:27 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Max wrote:
>>> --
>> 
>> Did you mean - Happy Ishtar?
>> "Easter (which is how you pronounce Ishtar) is all about celebrating
>> fertility and sex."
>> tin.man
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Easter!

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Well, while I like the idea,

https://bellejar.ca/2013/03/28/easter-is-not-named-after-ishtar-and-other-truths-i-have-to-tell-you/


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> Max wrote:
> > --
>
> Did you mean - Happy Ishtar?
> "Easter (which is how you pronounce Ishtar) is all about celebrating
> fertility and sex."
> tin.man
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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] Garage Challenge - Moriarty

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Holy guacamole! That’s humongous!

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> On Mar 31, 2018, at 5:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> All it takes is $$$.$$  hhahahaha... 120' X 70' with
> 14' to the eves, 5 in 12 roof pitch.
> 
> I won't be an entry this round. Have to much left to complete before it's
> done.  Once finished, I'll endeavor to do a sequence photo of the build.
> 
> Thanks for the mention. You all have some great looking garages.
> 
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> But Herr Mann has not submitted an entry.  Therefore, can't win.
>> 
>> Craig via Mercedes 
>>> March 31, 2018 at 2:57 PM
>>> On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 19:11:45 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
>>> 
>>> Actually, it's not mine; I'm only renting.
>>> 
>>> I think Grant will be the real winner when he gets his construction
>>> completed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Easter!

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Max wrote:
> --

Did you mean - Happy Ishtar?
"Easter (which is how you pronounce Ishtar) is all about celebrating
fertility and sex."
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] Garage Challenge - Moriarty

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Grant wrote:
> Once finished, I'll endeavor to do a sequence photo of the build.

Give us the bones picture now.
Finish build will be interesting but sometimes bones is also interesting.
tin.man

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[MBZ] OT but quite interesting

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I watched a bit of the vid, will watch more later.  Very cool!

https://jalopnik.com/the-first-woman-to-drive-around-the-world-crushed-banan-1824231577

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Re: [MBZ] Permatex #2 cleaning

[OK Don via Mercedes]

If acetone won't do it, try MEK next . . .

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 11:14 AM, fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Curley wrote:
>
> > Been scraping for hours on gaskets some genius glued down with
> > permatex 1 or 2.  Someone had a solvent for this #2.
>
> I would try acetone.
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for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Permatex #2 cleaning

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Well so much for the official word from spermatex.  Soaked over 12 hours 
in isopropyl alcohol.  no softening at all.  The $hit is bad on cast 
iron, but at least on iron you can take a wire wheel to it.  On aluminum 
it is pure awful.



Rdeafboy via Mercedes 
April 1, 2018 at 9:20 AM
lacquer thinner ...work at it in pieces removal



Bob


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Re: [MBZ] Painting Bundts

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The Würth paint is the only thing I’ve ever seen that is a direct match to the 
factory silver.

-D


> On Apr 1, 2018, at 11:08 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> what kind/color most closely matches the OE?
> 
> LarryT
> 
> 91 300D (still haven't taken it anywhere for a answer to the problem question 
> - more health problems)
> 
> 06 E350
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Permatex #2 cleaning

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curley wrote:

> Been scraping for hours on gaskets some genius glued down with
> permatex 1 or 2.  Someone had a solvent for this #2.

I would try acetone. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT Winders question

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> archer75--- wrote:

> The last time I tried Linux, if you wanted to go to some file or
> do something, it would tell you to go to the command line and
> type in some string of characters and numbers. Since that was
> years ago, I'm wondering if some flavors of Linux have gotten
> out of that habit and actually become user friendly. Gerry 

Some of us think the command line _is_ user friendly and the GUI
is an annoying, clumsy, limited, and unfriendly way to interact
with a computer. *smiles*

And yes, Linux become easier.  There are hundreds of
distributions.  Each thinks it is the best for some particular
reason or purpose.  There are a lot of even system work that can
be done in a GUI - however, so far as I have seen, the command
line interface has NOT been crippled.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Winders question

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> archer75--- wrote:

> The last time I tried Linux, if you wanted to go to some file or
> do something, it would tell you to go to the command line and
> type in some string of characters and numbers. Since that was
> years ago, I'm wondering if some flavors of Linux have gotten
> out of that habit and actually become user friendly. Gerry 

Some of us think the command line _is_ user friendly and the GUI
is an annoying, clumsy, limited, and unfriendly way to interact
with a computer. *smiles*

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

As always there is noting getting past you. 

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> On Apr 1, 2018, at 10:34 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
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> 
>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 8:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> You lust for this car.  You need it.  You want it.  You must have it.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/31/2018 6:53 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>>> Ok. I used to lust for one of these but no longer
>>> 
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2018 7:51 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, I bought it a few weeks ago but it’s not really my thing so
>>> I’m wanting to move it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2018, at 6:41 PM, Dwight Giles >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Wasn't this on a week or so ago?
 
 Dwight Giles Jr.
 Wickford R
 
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Re: [MBZ] Inner door liner

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Contact cement.

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> Walmart carries an 8 oz bottle of Elmers Rubber Cement, but you often have
> to hunt for it. Sometimes it will be in the school section, sometimes in
> the art supply section, and sometimes in the office supply section. I just
> bought a bottle and it was in art supplies.
> Gerry
>
> > I keep a bottle of rubber cement around for this.  Makes it easy to
> stick on and isn’t messy.  Peels off easily, too.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> > > On Mar 31, 2018, at 1:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> > >
> > >
> > > What do you guys use to stick the plastic inner door liner back to the
> inside of the door after removing it to do work?
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

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Post has been deleted.

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 8:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> You lust for this car.  You need it.  You want it.  You must have it.
>
>
> On 3/31/2018 6:53 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>
>> Ok. I used to lust for one of these but no longer
>>
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2018 7:51 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  ka...@striplin.net>> wrote:
>>
>> No, I bought it a few weeks ago but it’s not really my thing so
>> I’m wanting to move it.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 31, 2018, at 6:41 PM, Dwight Giles > > wrote:
>>
>> Wasn't this on a week or so ago?
>>>
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford R
>>>
>>> On Mar 31, 2018 7:09 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> 1988 Mercedes Benz 300CE 2 door coupe
>>>
>>> https://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/d/1988-mercedes-benz-300ce-
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>>> >> -2/6548514708.html>
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Re: [MBZ] Please Talk me out of this one - -'78 Silver Wraith RR on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Clever but sad.  My dream crushed again.

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 11:40 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:

> Rolls Royce and Boats if you have to ask how much it costs, you can't
> afford it.
>
> B.O.A.T.  "Bring Out Another Thousand"
>
> Rolls Royce has a feature that is designed into the structure from the
> factory. It is a "Wallet Vacuum". As soon as you set in the owners seat,
> front or rear, it kicks on and runs continuously until it sucks the wallet,
> the trust fund, and all life savings away from the owner.
>
> Andrew "needs" this one so he can experience all the emotional highs and
> lows of Rolls ownership Should park well in the DC area... ;))
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 8:13 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > wrote:
>
> > If you want to have a Rolls you need to do the work yourself unless you
> > are very wealthy and you need to be able to think outside of the box.Many
> > repairs do not have to be factory and may be better in the long run.My
> > mechanic son worked on an old one that had an odd brake system. They
> > installed a Chevy brake booster and swapped the left and right brake
> shoes,
> > drums etc in order to keep it on the road for the owner.
> > RB
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
> >  Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-03-30  10:32 AM  (GMT-06:00) To:
> > Mercedes Discussion List  Cc: Curley McLain <
> > 126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Please Talk me out of this one -
> > -'78 Silver Wraith RR on
> >   BAT
> > S!   Andrew NEEDS a roller!
> >
> > > Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> > > March 30, 2018 at 10:16 AM
> > > A friend of mine came into some money when his mother died. He
> > > "invested" something like $60k into a Rolls. It was constantly broken
> > > down and every time it did it was like a $5,000 repair. I'm talking
> > > like radiator, brake lines, control units etc. After dumping something
> > > like $20k into it he dumped it for something like $10k...
> > > -Curt
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[MBZ] Coupe is sold

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

First guy that called and came look at it bought it. I broke even but thank god 
I’m out of that car. The minority fellow I bought it off of got one over on me 
good. I was off my game that day. The trunk lid had the bolts missing on the 
passenger side by where the tree fell on the back glass. I just thought they 
probably removed them for whatever reason for the back glass deal. I installed 
them yesterday and the trunk lid does not line up on the right side. It’s 
pushed back about half an inch or less. It appears to me it’s because the hinge 
on that side probably got bent out in the tree incident. As I was giving the 
guy the Texas title that the guy gave me that he got from the guy he bought it 
off of who’s name is on the title signed the front but not the back. On Texas 
titles the owner signs the front then signs the back when sold. So basically 
the car did not have a valid title. Crap. I missed that. Rookie move in my 
part. The guy buying the car said he could handle it. Good deal. Anyway, he is 
a foreigner of some sort who just moved here for his company. Whatever, I 
didn’t ask question. He paid, I gave him the title. He wants to leave it here 
for about 3 weeks until he has room. I offered to haul it to Tulsa for him. 
That car just seemed like a turd, but a clean turd. I don’t know I was just 
turned off by that car. 

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Re: [MBZ] Painting Bundts

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

what kind/color most closely matches the OE?

LarryT

91 300D (still haven't taken it anywhere for a answer to the problem 
question - more health problems)


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On 03/29/2018 5:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I’ve never chemically stripped one, only sand or bead blasted if I took old 
paint off.  If it’s intact I just prep it the best I can and paint over.

Dan
  

On Mar 28, 2018, at 10:19 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes  
wrote:

I used airplane stripper to get down to bare metal.  It is a huge PITA, as it 
needs to be kept covered long enough for the product to work.

Do not sand blast.  A person could soda blast it or bead/walnut.

Now, the biggest removal need I have is getting brake debris/dust to go away.  
Brass wheel can do a great job scuffing through that.  Then work up the 
abrasive paper tree to 400 grit.

clay

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On Mar 28, 2018, at 7:08 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
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Clay, Dan: what do you use to strip the old paint?
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[MBZ] Subject: Re: Permatex #2 cleaning

[Rdeafboy via Mercedes]

lacquer thinner ...work at it in pieces removal


 
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Easter!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

He is risen!  Happy Easter!


Max Dillon via Mercedes 
April 1, 2018 at 8:56 AM


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[MBZ] Happy Easter!

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] Permatex #2 cleaning

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Wife used WD-40 to get labels off, and I seem to remember using it to get a 
paper gasket off. I would try whatever spray solvents I had on hand; Blaster, 
Aerokroil, brake cleaner, etc.
Gerry

Curley McLain wrote:
> Its aluminum.  I won't take a power tool to it.   Scraping is  slow with 
> a razor blade.  about 1/16th to 1/32 of a square inch at a time, if you 
> get a good bite. Most of the time you don't get a good bite.  Still a 
> danger of gouging the aluminum.  THe $ hit is probably 5-10 thousandths 
> " thick.  Too thick to get a good seal with a new gasket.  I think I 
> have most of the first one scraped down to where the $ hit is only .001 
> to .003 thick.
> 
> Tried denatured alcohol.  It made the thick spots easier to see, but no 
> solvent qualities I could see.  I might try paint stripper next.   I got 
> so disgusted I quit for today.
> 
> > G Mann via Mercedes 
> > March 31, 2018 at 4:35 PM
> > If you are scraping gasket material off of a cast iron surface, I've found
> > the Harbor Freight vibration saw [the one on sale for $15 ] with the
> > scraper blade that can be bought for it, is the best thing since canned
> > beer.
> >
> > If the stuck gasket is on aluminum... proceed at your own caution, The 
> > tool
> > can get pretty aggressive and I fear damage to the surface would / could
> > happen.
> >
> > On cast material.. .Bobs your uncle. I peeled a 40 yr old head gasket off
> > heads and block that would otherwise only come off with a surface grinder.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Inner door liner

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Walmart carries an 8 oz bottle of Elmers Rubber Cement, but you often have to 
hunt for it. Sometimes it will be in the school section, sometimes in the art 
supply section, and sometimes in the office supply section. I just bought a 
bottle and it was in art supplies.
Gerry

> I keep a bottle of rubber cement around for this.  Makes it easy to stick on 
> and isn’t messy.  Peels off easily, too.
> 
> -D
> 
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> > On Mar 31, 2018, at 1:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> > What do you guys use to stick the plastic inner door liner back to the 
> > inside of the door after removing it to do work?
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Re: [MBZ] I'm big into turbos

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Interesting.

https://www.realself.com/forum/laser-tattoo-removal-10-before-your-tattoo-removed

Gerry


Dan Penoff wrote:
> Father in law had one of those inky blue “Mother” tattoos on his forearm that 
> he got during the war.  Looked horrible, like a prison tat.
> -D
 
> > On Mar 31, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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> > Even the  WWII navy and marine tattoos looked ugly by the 60s and 70s.  You 
> > could generally make out the anchor, but that was about it.
> > 
> >> G Mann via Mercedes 
> >> March 31, 2018 at 4:12 PM
> >> Then again... it's only a tattoo.. it will fade with age and wrinkles,
> >> right?
> >> I've always wondered if people who get tattoo ever think what they will
> >> look like after 40 years or so?
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