Re: [MBZ] Tossing an OM602 into a W126?

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Mr. Noble would be on the hook for pallet and crating on his end.  UPS would 
build the crate for shipping in their freight program.  Again, probably worth 
it, depending on purchase price.

This assumes the motor provided is in good nick.  I would be VERY liberal in 
that standard for a decent OM617 turbo.  Even Mr. Kaleb ought to be able to 
scrounge something in his Acres of Okie Excess.  


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> On Dec 12, 2018, at 6:35 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> UHaul rents pickup trucks for pretty cheap... rent one, run to the freight
> dock.. pick up engine.. take to Indy, use his engine hoist to lift off
> truck.. done and dusted...
> 
> I've had good luck shipping engines on a pallet with a crate enclosing
> them. I lay the engine on it's side if it's an inline engine, blocks cut to
> support it and keep critical parts from contact. then screw 2X4's around
> the pallet outline, screw plywood to the 2X4's to make a box, reinforce
> corners with short 2X4, make a lid of plywood, screw it on...
> 
> Laying engine down makes smaller box, lowers shipping cost. Pallet base
> lets it be moved and loaded by freight company easily.
> 
> Hint... use or build a strong pallet for base.  Strap the engine down
> hard.. Put a "Do not stack" sticker on the top.
> 
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 7:17 PM clay monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I am shy a truck or lift for being able to slip the pallet into.  I am not
>> sure what the shop has on hand, but probably no fork lift.  Maybe a pallet
>> jack.  He is able to move engines up a grade about 300 feet to his storage
>> space behind the shop and back.
>> 
>> 
>> clay monroe
>> redgh...@comcast.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2018, at 5:58 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Residence to residence, with liftgate at each end:  ~$450  (freightquote)
>>> If Rick can ship from the terminal or a business with a dock/forklift,
>> the rate will be substantially less.
>>> If Clay can pick up at a terminal or business with a dock/forklift, the
>> rate will be substantially less.
>>> 
>>> I used Gary, IN to Portland , OR.  close enough that neither address
>> should change the rate.
>>> 
>>> Dock to dock or terminal to terminal, I'd guess you can ship it for
>> about $250-300
>>> 
>>> Freightcenter.com or freightquote.com are broker services.   You may
>> get a better rate direct from a LTL trucking company that serves both
>> areas.   Or find a owner/operator that makes that run, and get him to
>> deliver it off paper, privately.
>>> 
>>> Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 12/12/18 7:28 PM:
 You need a OM617 turbo engine, correct?
 I have one, but I suspect freight charges would be pretty high.
 
 Rick
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Tossing an OM602 into a W126?

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Home Depot would have a pick up for around $25 a pop.

I assume the terminal would have forklift to drop it into the bed of the pick 
up.

$80 for a liftgate would not kill the deal and probably a sound enough 
investment in time savings and “accidents” moving it to and from a pick up and 
to the shop.

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> On Dec 12, 2018, at 6:31 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> ASK him if he has a way to unload an engine from a semi-trailer.  If yes, 
> tell the freighter it is to a biz with forklift.  If no, tell them you need 
> liftgate.  Do you know anyone with a pickup or open trailer who could pick up 
> at the terminal and haul it to your shop?
> 
> clay monroe via Mercedes wrote on 12/12/18 8:17 PM:
>> I am shy a truck or lift for being able to slip the pallet into.  I am not 
>> sure what the shop has on hand, but probably no fork lift.  Maybe a pallet 
>> jack.  He is able to move engines up a grade about 300 feet to his storage 
>> space behind the shop and back.
>> 
>> 
>> clay monroe
>> redgh...@comcast.net
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] One For Curley

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"Not a show winner".  I'm SHOCKED.

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> https://racine.craigslist.org/cto/6771170403.html
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Re: [MBZ] Hepl! 85 W123 sun roof drains

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So you could see the hole from the driver's footwell or from under the hood
looking down?

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 6:54 PM Michael Esh via Mercedes <
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> Thanks Max.  I found the leak and hopefully patched it up. It was behind
> the front fender about midway from top to bottom and about a foot forward
> of the parking brake.  I could just reach it from inside the car and with
> the fender bolts off I could patch it from the outside as well. It was
> about The size of a silver dollar.  (The old ones) We will see if I fixed
> it next time I go out in the rain and snow.
>
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> > On Dec 12, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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> >
> > The driver drain location should be symmetrical with passenger side; try
> > pushing your line through passenger side to detect exit point.
> >
> > On a 124 car, the drain lines are black, rubber hose-like but with very
> > thin wall, and were easy to see once my piece of weed wacker line pushed
> > through.  I melted the end of the weed wacker line so it made a little
> ball
> > to make it easier to push through.
> > -
> > Max
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> >
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> >> I’m trying to locate the source of a water leak into the drivers side
> >> footwell. Carpet is getting soaked on the left side below and forward of
> >> the emergency brake pedal.
> >> I pushed a line from the forward sunroof drain and it popped out right
> in
> >> front of the upper door hinge.
> >>  Is this the normal exit for this drain or is it a rusted out hole?
> >>
> >> I can’t see the actual exit because the hinge is blocking my view.
> >>
> >>
> >> Michael E. Esh
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Re: [MBZ] Tossing an OM602 into a W126?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

$20 will get you a u-haul truck to get the engine at the terminal and 
deliver to the shop. Deducting a liftgate stop is probably $100 off.  
$80 net savings.


Now you need to find what Rick can do on his end.


G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 12/12/18 8:35 PM:

UHaul rents pickup trucks for pretty cheap... rent one, run to the freight
dock.. pick up engine.. take to Indy, use his engine hoist to lift off
truck.. done and dusted...

I've had good luck shipping engines on a pallet with a crate enclosing
them. I lay the engine on it's side if it's an inline engine, blocks cut to
support it and keep critical parts from contact. then screw 2X4's around
the pallet outline, screw plywood to the 2X4's to make a box, reinforce
corners with short 2X4, make a lid of plywood, screw it on...

Laying engine down makes smaller box, lowers shipping cost. Pallet base
lets it be moved and loaded by freight company easily.

Hint... use or build a strong pallet for base.  Strap the engine down
hard.. Put a "Do not stack" sticker on the top.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 7:17 PM clay monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I am shy a truck or lift for being able to slip the pallet into.  I am not
sure what the shop has on hand, but probably no fork lift.  Maybe a pallet
jack.  He is able to move engines up a grade about 300 feet to his storage
space behind the shop and back.


clay monroe
redgh...@comcast.net




On Dec 12, 2018, at 5:58 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Residence to residence, with liftgate at each end:  ~$450  (freightquote)
If Rick can ship from the terminal or a business with a dock/forklift,

the rate will be substantially less.

If Clay can pick up at a terminal or business with a dock/forklift, the

rate will be substantially less.

I used Gary, IN to Portland , OR.  close enough that neither address

should change the rate.

Dock to dock or terminal to terminal, I'd guess you can ship it for

about $250-300

Freightcenter.com or freightquote.com are broker services.   You may

get a better rate direct from a LTL trucking company that serves both
areas.   Or find a owner/operator that makes that run, and get him to
deliver it off paper, privately.

Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 12/12/18 7:28 PM:

You need a OM617 turbo engine, correct?
I have one, but I suspect freight charges would be pretty high.

Rick




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Re: [MBZ] Tossing an OM602 into a W126?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

UHaul rents pickup trucks for pretty cheap... rent one, run to the freight
dock.. pick up engine.. take to Indy, use his engine hoist to lift off
truck.. done and dusted...

I've had good luck shipping engines on a pallet with a crate enclosing
them. I lay the engine on it's side if it's an inline engine, blocks cut to
support it and keep critical parts from contact. then screw 2X4's around
the pallet outline, screw plywood to the 2X4's to make a box, reinforce
corners with short 2X4, make a lid of plywood, screw it on...

Laying engine down makes smaller box, lowers shipping cost. Pallet base
lets it be moved and loaded by freight company easily.

Hint... use or build a strong pallet for base.  Strap the engine down
hard.. Put a "Do not stack" sticker on the top.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 7:17 PM clay monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I am shy a truck or lift for being able to slip the pallet into.  I am not
> sure what the shop has on hand, but probably no fork lift.  Maybe a pallet
> jack.  He is able to move engines up a grade about 300 feet to his storage
> space behind the shop and back.
>
>
> clay monroe
> redgh...@comcast.net
>
>
>
> > On Dec 12, 2018, at 5:58 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Residence to residence, with liftgate at each end:  ~$450  (freightquote)
> > If Rick can ship from the terminal or a business with a dock/forklift,
> the rate will be substantially less.
> > If Clay can pick up at a terminal or business with a dock/forklift, the
> rate will be substantially less.
> >
> > I used Gary, IN to Portland , OR.  close enough that neither address
> should change the rate.
> >
> > Dock to dock or terminal to terminal, I'd guess you can ship it for
> about $250-300
> >
> > Freightcenter.com or freightquote.com are broker services.   You may
> get a better rate direct from a LTL trucking company that serves both
> areas.   Or find a owner/operator that makes that run, and get him to
> deliver it off paper, privately.
> >
> > Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 12/12/18 7:28 PM:
> >> You need a OM617 turbo engine, correct?
> >> I have one, but I suspect freight charges would be pretty high.
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Tossing an OM602 into a W126?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

ASK him if he has a way to unload an engine from a semi-trailer.  If 
yes, tell the freighter it is to a biz with forklift.  If no, tell them 
you need liftgate.  Do you know anyone with a pickup or open trailer who 
could pick up at the terminal and haul it to your shop?


clay monroe via Mercedes wrote on 12/12/18 8:17 PM:

I am shy a truck or lift for being able to slip the pallet into.  I am not sure 
what the shop has on hand, but probably no fork lift.  Maybe a pallet jack.  He 
is able to move engines up a grade about 300 feet to his storage space behind 
the shop and back.


clay monroe
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Re: [MBZ] Tossing an OM602 into a W126?

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I am shy a truck or lift for being able to slip the pallet into.  I am not sure 
what the shop has on hand, but probably no fork lift.  Maybe a pallet jack.  He 
is able to move engines up a grade about 300 feet to his storage space behind 
the shop and back.


clay monroe
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> On Dec 12, 2018, at 5:58 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Residence to residence, with liftgate at each end:  ~$450  (freightquote)
> If Rick can ship from the terminal or a business with a dock/forklift, the 
> rate will be substantially less.
> If Clay can pick up at a terminal or business with a dock/forklift, the rate 
> will be substantially less.
> 
> I used Gary, IN to Portland , OR.  close enough that neither address should 
> change the rate.
> 
> Dock to dock or terminal to terminal, I'd guess you can ship it for about 
> $250-300
> 
> Freightcenter.com or freightquote.com are broker services.   You may get a 
> better rate direct from a LTL trucking company that serves both areas.   Or 
> find a owner/operator that makes that run, and get him to deliver it off 
> paper, privately.
> 
> Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 12/12/18 7:28 PM:
>> You need a OM617 turbo engine, correct?
>> I have one, but I suspect freight charges would be pretty high.
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tossing an OM602 into a W126?

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Depends on purchase price.  Should be able to ship to the shop on a pallet for 
around $500.  OM 617 turbo, not aspirated.

UPS freight will come over and crate it up, then send it to my indy for us.  
Crated it becomes class 70, cheaper.  On a pallet, skid it is class 85, more 
dollars.  It would need to be fully drained of fluids and have a goodly diaper 
in case anything drips.  The engine would want to be supported on the mounts, 
not the oil pan.  Some advice was to build up something to bolt the engine 
down, as well as strap the heck out of it.

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> On Dec 12, 2018, at 5:28 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You need a OM617 turbo engine, correct?
> I have one, but I suspect freight charges would be pretty high. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tossing an OM602 into a W126?

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Residence to residence, with liftgate at each end:  ~$450  (freightquote)
If Rick can ship from the terminal or a business with a dock/forklift, 
the rate will be substantially less.
If Clay can pick up at a terminal or business with a dock/forklift, the 
rate will be substantially less.


I used Gary, IN to Portland , OR.  close enough that neither address 
should change the rate.


Dock to dock or terminal to terminal, I'd guess you can ship it for 
about $250-300


Freightcenter.com or freightquote.com are broker services.   You may get 
a better rate direct from a LTL trucking company that serves both 
areas.   Or find a owner/operator that makes that run, and get him to 
deliver it off paper, privately.


Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 12/12/18 7:28 PM:

You need a OM617 turbo engine, correct?
I have one, but I suspect freight charges would be pretty high.

Rick





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[MBZ] One For Curley

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

https://racine.craigslist.org/cto/6771170403.html

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Tossing an OM602 into a W126?

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You need a OM617 turbo engine, correct?
I have one, but I suspect freight charges would be pretty high. 

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Tossing an OM602 into a W126?

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I may not have really thought this through, as a few responses have pointed out.

The 602 or 603 would require a significant outlay of time and cash to modify to 
fit.  

I have been driving the SDL which has a great engine, but crapped out sheet 
metal.  There is rust in all the normal spaces, as well as pretty much the 
rest.  The interior of the SDL is pretty dolled up in its polizei green and a 
decent dash with working Becker.  Maybe I get another year or two out of it.  
It will need a fresh set of doors, hood, trunk, and some fenders.  Big rot 
under the battery tray, and the left rear wheel well is cancerous from front to 
back to the bumper mounts.

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> 
> I'm just guessing here, but seems like wiring and motor mounts from an SDL 
> would work. 
> Or adapt the 300D engine harness if it's been updated from biodegradeable. 
> Might have to move the transmission mount and modify the driveshaft. Maybe 
> get an SDL driveshaft and cut it down?
> 
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[MBZ] Round things for D. Snook Esq?

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-7-Spoke-BMW-Rims-4-255-55-Continental-23-Extreme-Contact-Tires-LPU-Only/332942748324?hash=item4d84ef2aa4:g:DxMAAOSwQZdcECJi

I bet the things would fit a benz

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Re: [MBZ] Barney

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Google, I think.  But it was eBay, in the end.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't mess with moose(s)/meese

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 18:48:31 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> > On December 12, 2018 at 6:33 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > How does one get the moose to hold still while measuring the width of 
> > the rack?
>
> Good point. 
> With Walleye, you just measure them and throw them back if they're too
> small. But this guy shot a moose and threw it back, so they threw him
> in jail. 

Actually, he shot three of them.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Barney

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Waytago!   Did you find the tcm on fleabay.de, or some other way.

Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote on 12/12/18 3:30 PM:

My long-awaited transmission control module, from Germany, arrived yesterday,
and today I put it in.  (2001 E320 AWD.)  It works!  This car might yet be a 
driver.
The few TCM's I could find in the states were either new/rebuilt, or too 
expensive.
This used one from Germany cost me $48, shipping was more than half.

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Re: [MBZ] Hepl! 85 W123 sun roof drains

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Thanks Max.  I found the leak and hopefully patched it up. It was behind the 
front fender about midway from top to bottom and about a foot forward of the 
parking brake.  I could just reach it from inside the car and with the fender 
bolts off I could patch it from the outside as well. It was about The size of a 
silver dollar.  (The old ones) We will see if I fixed it next time I go out in 
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> On Dec 12, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
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> 
> The driver drain location should be symmetrical with passenger side; try
> pushing your line through passenger side to detect exit point.
> 
> On a 124 car, the drain lines are black, rubber hose-like but with very
> thin wall, and were easy to see once my piece of weed wacker line pushed
> through.  I melted the end of the weed wacker line so it made a little ball
> to make it easier to push through.
> -
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> Charleston SC
> 
> 
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> 
>> I’m trying to locate the source of a water leak into the drivers side
>> footwell. Carpet is getting soaked on the left side below and forward of
>> the emergency brake pedal.
>> I pushed a line from the forward sunroof drain and it popped out right in
>> front of the upper door hinge.
>>  Is this the normal exit for this drain or is it a rusted out hole?
>> 
>> I can’t see the actual exit because the hinge is blocking my view.
>> 
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't mess with moose(s)/meese

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 12, 2018 at 6:33 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> How does one get the moose to hold still while measuring the width of 
> the rack?


Good point. 
With Walleye, you just measure them and throw them back if they're too small. 
But this guy shot a moose and threw it back, so they threw him in jail. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't mess with moose(s)/meese

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

How does one get the moose to hold still while measuring the width of 
the rack?


RB

On 12/12/2018 5:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

  50" rack required to be legal, these are probably under 1000# apiece, 
actually probably in the 700-800# range.
I'm interested to see that requirement, moose over 1000# start to be tough 
eating...
-Curt

  



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't mess with moose(s)/meese

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 50" rack required to be legal, these are probably under 1000# apiece, actually 
probably in the 700-800# range.
I'm interested to see that requirement, moose over 1000# start to be tough 
eating...
-Curt

On Wednesday, December 12, 2018, 4:53:54 PM EST, G Mann via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 So, presuming each of the 3 killed meese weighed, say 1,000 lbs and not
giving weight to the jail time, or forfeiture of his rifle and vehicle,
calculation of the price per pound of moose meat comes to $33.33 per lb.
more or less.

Waste not, Want not... Alaskans take natures harvest seriously...I'm sure
jail food won't cost nearly as much... or be as good as fresh moose.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:02 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> WILDLIFEAlaskan gets $100K fine, jail time for poaching 3 moosePublished:
> Wednesday, December 12, 2018
>
> An Alaska man who poached three moose and left most of the meat to rot has
> been sentenced to nine months in jail and fined more than $100,000.
>
> Rusty Counts, 39, of Anchor Point shot the moose near his community over
> two weeks in September. He pleaded guilty Nov. 6 to 21 misdemeanor wildlife
> counts and violations, including wanton waste, exceeding bag limits and
> contributing to the delinquency of a minor.
>
> Hunting regulations near the Kenai Peninsula community require moose to
> have antlers measuring 50 inches wide to be harvested. None of the three
> moose had the required spread, said Aaron Peterson, an assistant attorney
> general who prosecuted the case.
>
> "The working theory is that he realized they were sublegal and decided not
> to stick around to salvage the meat," Peterson said Monday. He called the
> case one of the most egregious poaching events ever seen by Alaska state
> wildlife troopers.
>
> Alaska officials take seriously the harvesting of moose and salvaging of
> meat, Alaska Department of Fish and Game spokesman Ken Marsh said.
>
> A bull moose can weigh up to 1,600 pounds and feed a family for months with
> meat free of chemicals and hormones. A successful hunt is also a source of
> pride, Marsh said.
>
> "It's a really important part of our culture and tradition, and people take
> that seriously," he said.
>
> Peterson backed the hefty penalties for Counts as a deterrent to others. If
> Counts had salvaged meat from the first moose, he likely would have been
> penalized for a single hunting violation.
>
> "That meat goes to shelters, food banks. It goes to people who need it,"
> Peterson said.
>
> Counts was fined $97,650 and ordered to pay $3,000 in restitution. He
> forfeited his rifle and an all-terrain vehicle and was sentenced to 270
> days in jail.
>
> "If you do the right thing in the field, this kind of thing doesn't happen.
> But if you poach and leave moose, these are the appropriate sanctions, in
> the state's view," Peterson said. *— Dan Joling, Associated Press*
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't mess with moose(s)/meese

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Alaska has a strong subsistence culture so there is general consensus to
apply harsh penalties against poachers.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 4:53 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> So, presuming each of the 3 killed meese weighed, say 1,000 lbs and not
> giving weight to the jail time, or forfeiture of his rifle and vehicle,
> calculation of the price per pound of moose meat comes to $33.33 per
> lb.
> more or less.
>
> Waste not, Want not... Alaskans take natures harvest seriously...I'm sure
> jail food won't cost nearly as much... or be as good as fresh moose.
>
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:02 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > WILDLIFEAlaskan gets $100K fine, jail time for poaching 3 moosePublished:
> > Wednesday, December 12, 2018
> >
> > An Alaska man who poached three moose and left most of the meat to rot
> has
> > been sentenced to nine months in jail and fined more than $100,000.
> >
> > Rusty Counts, 39, of Anchor Point shot the moose near his community over
> > two weeks in September. He pleaded guilty Nov. 6 to 21 misdemeanor
> wildlife
> > counts and violations, including wanton waste, exceeding bag limits and
> > contributing to the delinquency of a minor.
> >
> > Hunting regulations near the Kenai Peninsula community require moose to
> > have antlers measuring 50 inches wide to be harvested. None of the three
> > moose had the required spread, said Aaron Peterson, an assistant attorney
> > general who prosecuted the case.
> >
> > "The working theory is that he realized they were sublegal and decided
> not
> > to stick around to salvage the meat," Peterson said Monday. He called the
> > case one of the most egregious poaching events ever seen by Alaska state
> > wildlife troopers.
> >
> > Alaska officials take seriously the harvesting of moose and salvaging of
> > meat, Alaska Department of Fish and Game spokesman Ken Marsh said.
> >
> > A bull moose can weigh up to 1,600 pounds and feed a family for months
> with
> > meat free of chemicals and hormones. A successful hunt is also a source
> of
> > pride, Marsh said.
> >
> > "It's a really important part of our culture and tradition, and people
> take
> > that seriously," he said.
> >
> > Peterson backed the hefty penalties for Counts as a deterrent to others.
> If
> > Counts had salvaged meat from the first moose, he likely would have been
> > penalized for a single hunting violation.
> >
> > "That meat goes to shelters, food banks. It goes to people who need it,"
> > Peterson said.
> >
> > Counts was fined $97,650 and ordered to pay $3,000 in restitution. He
> > forfeited his rifle and an all-terrain vehicle and was sentenced to 270
> > days in jail.
> >
> > "If you do the right thing in the field, this kind of thing doesn't
> happen.
> > But if you poach and leave moose, these are the appropriate sanctions, in
> > the state's view," Peterson said. *— Dan Joling, Associated Press*
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Re: [MBZ] $1100 for this?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

That's why I only mentioned the two wheels that seem to have good paint nearby. 
The rest I wouldn't try to resell. 
Mitch.

> On December 12, 2018 at 2:49 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Wouldn't the heat from a fire make those wheels unsafe? Or is the alloy of 
> the wheels not heat-treated?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't mess with moose(s)/meese

[G Mann via Mercedes]

So, presuming each of the 3 killed meese weighed, say 1,000 lbs and not
giving weight to the jail time, or forfeiture of his rifle and vehicle,
calculation of the price per pound of moose meat comes to $33.33 per lb.
more or less.

Waste not, Want not... Alaskans take natures harvest seriously...I'm sure
jail food won't cost nearly as much... or be as good as fresh moose.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:02 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> WILDLIFEAlaskan gets $100K fine, jail time for poaching 3 moosePublished:
> Wednesday, December 12, 2018
>
> An Alaska man who poached three moose and left most of the meat to rot has
> been sentenced to nine months in jail and fined more than $100,000.
>
> Rusty Counts, 39, of Anchor Point shot the moose near his community over
> two weeks in September. He pleaded guilty Nov. 6 to 21 misdemeanor wildlife
> counts and violations, including wanton waste, exceeding bag limits and
> contributing to the delinquency of a minor.
>
> Hunting regulations near the Kenai Peninsula community require moose to
> have antlers measuring 50 inches wide to be harvested. None of the three
> moose had the required spread, said Aaron Peterson, an assistant attorney
> general who prosecuted the case.
>
> "The working theory is that he realized they were sublegal and decided not
> to stick around to salvage the meat," Peterson said Monday. He called the
> case one of the most egregious poaching events ever seen by Alaska state
> wildlife troopers.
>
> Alaska officials take seriously the harvesting of moose and salvaging of
> meat, Alaska Department of Fish and Game spokesman Ken Marsh said.
>
> A bull moose can weigh up to 1,600 pounds and feed a family for months with
> meat free of chemicals and hormones. A successful hunt is also a source of
> pride, Marsh said.
>
> "It's a really important part of our culture and tradition, and people take
> that seriously," he said.
>
> Peterson backed the hefty penalties for Counts as a deterrent to others. If
> Counts had salvaged meat from the first moose, he likely would have been
> penalized for a single hunting violation.
>
> "That meat goes to shelters, food banks. It goes to people who need it,"
> Peterson said.
>
> Counts was fined $97,650 and ordered to pay $3,000 in restitution. He
> forfeited his rifle and an all-terrain vehicle and was sentenced to 270
> days in jail.
>
> "If you do the right thing in the field, this kind of thing doesn't happen.
> But if you poach and leave moose, these are the appropriate sanctions, in
> the state's view," Peterson said. *— Dan Joling, Associated Press*
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Re: [MBZ] Barney

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Strong work. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Dec 12, 2018, at 4:30 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> My long-awaited transmission control module, from Germany, arrived yesterday,
> and today I put it in.  (2001 E320 AWD.)  It works!  This car might yet be a 
> driver.
> The few TCM's I could find in the states were either new/rebuilt, or too 
> expensive.
> This used one from Germany cost me $48, shipping was more than half.
> 
> Total monetary investment so far is about $900, but it has not yet been taxed
> or licensed.
> 
> -- Jim
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[MBZ] Barney

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

My long-awaited transmission control module, from Germany, arrived yesterday,
and today I put it in.  (2001 E320 AWD.)  It works!  This car might yet be a 
driver.
The few TCM's I could find in the states were either new/rebuilt, or too 
expensive.
This used one from Germany cost me $48, shipping was more than half.

Total monetary investment so far is about $900, but it has not yet been taxed
or licensed.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] A training video

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/500PlusHPForSale/videos/1587478867956512/

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[MBZ] OT: Don't mess with moose(s)/meese

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

WILDLIFEAlaskan gets $100K fine, jail time for poaching 3 moosePublished:
Wednesday, December 12, 2018

An Alaska man who poached three moose and left most of the meat to rot has
been sentenced to nine months in jail and fined more than $100,000.

Rusty Counts, 39, of Anchor Point shot the moose near his community over
two weeks in September. He pleaded guilty Nov. 6 to 21 misdemeanor wildlife
counts and violations, including wanton waste, exceeding bag limits and
contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

Hunting regulations near the Kenai Peninsula community require moose to
have antlers measuring 50 inches wide to be harvested. None of the three
moose had the required spread, said Aaron Peterson, an assistant attorney
general who prosecuted the case.

"The working theory is that he realized they were sublegal and decided not
to stick around to salvage the meat," Peterson said Monday. He called the
case one of the most egregious poaching events ever seen by Alaska state
wildlife troopers.

Alaska officials take seriously the harvesting of moose and salvaging of
meat, Alaska Department of Fish and Game spokesman Ken Marsh said.

A bull moose can weigh up to 1,600 pounds and feed a family for months with
meat free of chemicals and hormones. A successful hunt is also a source of
pride, Marsh said.

"It's a really important part of our culture and tradition, and people take
that seriously," he said.

Peterson backed the hefty penalties for Counts as a deterrent to others. If
Counts had salvaged meat from the first moose, he likely would have been
penalized for a single hunting violation.

"That meat goes to shelters, food banks. It goes to people who need it,"
Peterson said.

Counts was fined $97,650 and ordered to pay $3,000 in restitution. He
forfeited his rifle and an all-terrain vehicle and was sentenced to 270
days in jail.

"If you do the right thing in the field, this kind of thing doesn't happen.
But if you poach and leave moose, these are the appropriate sanctions, in
the state's view," Peterson said. *— Dan Joling, Associated Press*
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Re: [MBZ] $1100 for this?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Wouldn't the heat from a fire make those wheels unsafe? Or is the alloy of the 
wheels not heat-treated?

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] $1100 for this?

G63 wheels are expensive. 
Looks like the spare and the left rear are probably good. 
"I bought a G63 AMG and all I could salvage were two wheels and one tire"
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] $1100 for this?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

OMG can you imagine all the buffing it would take to bring back to showroom
condition...

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 7:57 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> G63 wheels are expensive.
> Looks like the spare and the left rear are probably good.
> "I bought a G63 AMG and all I could salvage were two wheels and one tire"
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Hepl! 85 W123 sun roof drains

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

The driver drain location should be symmetrical with passenger side; try
pushing your line through passenger side to detect exit point.

On a 124 car, the drain lines are black, rubber hose-like but with very
thin wall, and were easy to see once my piece of weed wacker line pushed
through.  I melted the end of the weed wacker line so it made a little ball
to make it easier to push through.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 9:50 AM Michael Esh via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I’m trying to locate the source of a water leak into the drivers side
> footwell. Carpet is getting soaked on the left side below and forward of
> the emergency brake pedal.
> I pushed a line from the forward sunroof drain and it popped out right in
> front of the upper door hinge.
>   Is this the normal exit for this drain or is it a rusted out hole?
>
> I can’t see the actual exit because the hinge is blocking my view.
>
>
> Michael E. Esh
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Carfax?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I've seen Uncle Kent use one, but didn't see where it was enough better than a 
long open end to care. 
Mitch. 

> On December 12, 2018 at 10:37 AM Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> There is a wrench sold for just that purpose.  Google it.  I’ve got one for 
> the M112 engines in my fleet.

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Re: [MBZ] Carfax?

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

There is a wrench sold for just that purpose.  Google it.  I’ve got one for the 
M112 engines in my fleet.

-D

> On Dec 12, 2018, at 9:57 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote
> 
> BTW, a long 17mm open end wrench makes a nice prybar to yank the plug boots 
> off. 
> Just slip the wrench over the metal boot and give it a bump with your fist. 
> 
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[MBZ] Carfax?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

4JGAB57E93A406169

Wondering when the dealer put these starmarked NGK plugs in the ML. 
They've obviously been in there a LOOONG time. 
I doubt the car has seen a dealer since it came to Michigan. 

The first one I pulled out was hard to turn for the first few turns, quite 
rusty, and the gap was eroded to 0.80". The next one wasn't as hard to turn, 
but still stuck in there, and had major metal transfer from the center 
electrode to the ground. When I get home tonight I'll try to take off the coils 
and pull the other ten plugs. 

BTW, a long 17mm open end wrench makes a nice prybar to yank the plug boots 
off. 
Just slip the wrench over the metal boot and give it a bump with your fist. 

Mitch.

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[MBZ] Hepl! 85 W123 sun roof drains

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

I’m trying to locate the source of a water leak into the drivers side footwell. 
Carpet is getting soaked on the left side below and forward of the emergency 
brake pedal. 
I pushed a line from the forward sunroof drain and it popped out right in front 
of the upper door hinge.
  Is this the normal exit for this drain or is it a rusted out hole?

I can’t see the actual exit because the hinge is blocking my view.  


Michael E. Esh



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[MBZ] you decide

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

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1983 Turbo Diesel Runs good 149,000 original miles For more info contact 
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Re: [MBZ] was: Value of Old Things, now Chicago Cutlery

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Those are good knives 

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> On Dec 11, 2018, at 11:47 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Zwilling-Henckels-and-Wusthof-Knife-Lot-Of-Ten-See-Pictures/312356971303?hash=item48b9ed2327:g:D6wAAOSw0d1cCCa0
> 
> Camp knives if ever I saw some
> 
> 
> clay monroe
> redgh...@comcast.net
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 11, 2018, at 5:13 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> +1 aboug Chicago  Knives.I prefer forschner or F. Dick knives, and buy 
>> only forschner for bread knives.   HOWEVER  Chicago Cutlery wood handle 
>> chef's knives are great.  Reasonably easy to sharpen for a SS knife, and 
>> they hold their edge well, for a SS knife.  We used 12" ones to cut 
>> bread/roll/Danish/croissant dough.  A Wuesthof, Forschner, etc would get 
>> Cuckarocha-ed.  They left the Chicago in the bakery.   I use 10" chef's 
>> knives at home, and gave one to each kid.  Best value in cooking knives out 
>> there.
>> 
>> The old F. Dick carbon steel knives were great, but unobtainium then and 
>> now.  Never needed sharpening.  The blades wore away, but stayed sharp.
>> Great for production work
>> 
>> Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote on 12/11/18 12:25 PM:
>>> I agree with much of what Clay says. I will disagree that Chicago Cutlery 
>>> are "junk". I am an unrepentant knife snob. My EDC pocket knife must be of 
>>> the best cutting edge (pun intended) super steel alloy out there, currently 
>>> M390. My kitchen includes several Shun chef's knives and paring knives as 
>>> well as a couple of MACs. I have passed on some Chicago Cutlery chef's 
>>> knives to my kids, but still have a set of Chicago Cutlery steak knives. 
>>> The steel in not as durable as more modern alloys, but sharpens easily, 
>>> which makes for a good steak knife. To be sure they are not something you 
>>> would call fine dinnerware, but very goodutilitarian tools.
>>> 
>>> To be clear, I am referring only to USA made Chicago Cutlery.
>>> 
>>> Greg
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] was: Value of Old Things, now Chicago Cutlery

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Cockaroach in a hawaiian term for disappeared or stolen.   Since spanish 
is our national language now, I translated it.


"someone cockaroach my knife!"

Craig via Mercedes wrote on 12/11/18 10:37 PM:

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:13:36 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:


A Wuesthof, Forschner, etc  would get Cuckarocha-ed.

Is that to say, "thrown out"?


Craig




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Re: [MBZ] $1100 for this?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

G63 wheels are expensive. 
Looks like the spare and the left rear are probably good. 
"I bought a G63 AMG and all I could salvage were two wheels and one tire"
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Tossing an OM602 into a W126?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I'm just guessing here, but seems like wiring and motor mounts from an SDL 
would work. 
Or adapt the 300D engine harness if it's been updated from biodegradeable. 
Might have to move the transmission mount and modify the driveshaft. Maybe get 
an SDL driveshaft and cut it down?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] was: Value of Old Things, now Chicago Cutlery

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curley wrote:

> I prefer forschner or F. Dick knives, and buy only forschner for
> bread knives.   HOWEVER Chicago Cutlery wood handle chef's
> knives are great.  Reasonably easy to sharpen for a SS knife,
> and they hold their edge well, for a SS knife.  ... I use 10"
> chef's knives at home, and gave one to each kid.  Best value in
> cooking knives out there.

The inspectors frown upon carbon steel knifes in commercial use.
At least they did a couple decades ago when I worked in a
kitchen.  There my favorite knife was the Wusthof Trident chef
knife.  I wanted one for myself, but couldn't afford 'em.  Finally
a couple years ago I got a Mercer.

Either my memory is soft, or this Mercer is every bit as good as
the Wusthof!  The other users in the kitchen were skeptical of the
value - but I'd have a riot if I were to try to take it away!


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