[MBZ] Flying Safety. was: Finnie Fun

2019-02-09 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
"Cars are safer than planes, if you compare trips. And planes are safer than 
cars, if you compare miles. Small planes are about 1 death per every 100,000 
hours, That ends up being more than cars by any measure. ... It's definitely 
safer to fly in a small plane than drive in a car, but only 18.5% safer…"

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G Mann wrote:
> Three most useless things in aviation:
> 1. Fuel still in the pump on the ground.
> 2. Runway behind you.
> 3. Altitude above you.
> BTDT all aviation wrecks start and end on the ground.. plan ahead.
> 
> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 12:39 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> > Yes, and most of your cars are decades newer than my airplane - 1957.
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 9:33 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah some altitude adds a bit more excitement!
> > >
> > > --FT
> > >
> > > On 2/9/19 7:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > > > Yeah, that’s the worst. You have a car puke on you and now you’re
> > > sensitized to it. Everywhere you go in it you’re just waiting for the
> > other
> > > shoe to drop. I hate that.
> > > >
> > > > And Don, you have far larger cohones than I ever will. I can’t imagine
> > > doing it in an airplane, although a former coworker was an A&P DIY’er. To
> > > the best of my knowledge he’s still alive and flying.
> > > >
> > > > -D
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:46 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Great story. That’s totally me in the SL600. Completely paranoid.
> > > Especially after the thermostat sticking and the car getting hot.   And
> > > the$500E300 too. Every old car!
> > > >>
> > > >> --R
> > > >> Sent from iPhone
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> A funny story:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Today I drove the 220SEb to work and then on to my headliner guy's
> > > shop so he could survey it in anticipation of doing the headliner and
> > > related items early next month. It's a roughly 20 mile drive one way to
> > > work, half on surface streets and the other half on a reversible toll
> > road
> > > with limited access/highway speeds (65 mph.) It's a combination of the
> > two
> > > over to the headliner shop of about 10 miles, making the return back to
> > the
> > > house much the same of about 30 miles for a total of about 60 miles round
> > > trip.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> We've all been in my shoes - a relatively new (to you) unproven car,
> > > taking it out on the road, listening to every noise, vibration, hum,
> > > whatever, riding on the edge just waiting for something (bad) to happen.
> > > You hear something and start to freak out
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Drive to work - uneventful, maybe even fun. The toll road is a
> > > reversible with three lanes, no access for roughly 11 miles. Very nice
> > road
> > > surface, new and smooth as glass. The car ran flawlessly, in fact, it
> > found
> > > a sweet spot in the upper 60s that made it sound great and was really
> > > tracking and handling quite nicely, considering that I am in serious need
> > > of new front springs. Cool. Got to work without an issue. Whew!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Drive to headliner shop - interstate and city streets, busy but the
> > > car did well again. Not a problem.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Drive home, mostly interstate except for the last 10 miles or so,
> > > which is surface streets. Again, ran well, no problems. Even fired up the
> > > FrigiKing since it was nearly 80 and got some ice cubes running - well,
> > > plenty of cold air. About a mile from home I was turning through an
> > > intersection and it sounded like I ran over something small in the road.
> > > Hmm. No problem, car was running fine. Probably a big rock or some piece
> > of
> > > junk I didn't see.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Pull into the garage. Need to straighten out the car a bit, so I put
> > > it in reverse. It continues to creep forward. Hmm. Put it in neutral.
> > > Creeps forward. OK, I'll just leave it here and I'll park the wife's
> > SL500
> > > so she doesn't bang the door into my car, since it was encroaching into
> > her
> > > space a little.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Get down on my hands and knees and take a look under the car. Yup.
> > > Transmission linkage bushing failed. Got a couple on their way from the
> > MB
> > > warehouse in Jacksonville. I totally trust this car now.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1992 Mercedes Benz 300D Turbo Diesel

2019-02-09 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
ok,  What Herr Mann says is true.   But from a practical standpoint, I 
think there is evidence the VO or WVO was only run enough to plug the 
filters.   Therefore, I am not afraid of this car or this engine.  Based 
on my experience resurrecting one mutilated 124 300D.


Herr Mann also frequents parts of the country where clean rust free 
examples of 123s, 124s and 126s are relatively plentiful.   In some 
other parts of the country, a clean rust free example is hard to come 
by, so we are willing to make compromises.


But do print out Herr Mann's email and take it along to have the seller 
read.  Use that to negotiate a better price.  As I said, it is all true.


G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 2/9/19 10:05 PM:

Run Run... Run...

In the alternate fuel world, there is a lot of confusion between running
"waste veg oil" which is contaminated used cooking oil, and Schedule 52 Bio
Diesel.

Waste Veg Oil is NOT Bio Diesel. WVO [as it's called] has multiple sins
that does damage to the injection pump and injectors, as well as valves and
pistons. To run on WVO, the WVO MUST be cleaned, ALL water removed, and
contaminate particles from cooking removed, PLUS, cooking inserts acids
into the WVO which do extreme harm to engine and IP internals.  Further, to
successfully run CLEANED WVO, it must be pre-heated to 180 F and engine
start and shutdown MUST be done on clean pump diesel. Engine must be
brought to operating temperature BEFORE WVO is switched to the IP. Then,
pre-shutdown, you must switch back to pump diesel and run long enough to
purge ALL WVO from fuel pump, lines, IP, and injectors [rule of thumb here
is 8 miles of running].

True Certified BioDiesel which meets Schedule 52 requirements requires no
modification to fuel system, engine, or proceedure of operation. The only
major consideration is that Schedule 52 BioDiesel has a higher gell point
than Schedule 54 pump diesel, So, if you operate in cold climate, you may
want to not run BioDiesel in temps below gell point.

If the car has had WVO used, expect accelerated wear on the IP, Injectors,
and massive carbon on valves and combustion chambers. His stated problem
with fuel filters tells me, "Problems are already there."

Hope this helps...




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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1992 Mercedes Benz 300D Turbo Diesel

2019-02-09 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Run Run... Run...

In the alternate fuel world, there is a lot of confusion between running
"waste veg oil" which is contaminated used cooking oil, and Schedule 52 Bio
Diesel.

Waste Veg Oil is NOT Bio Diesel. WVO [as it's called] has multiple sins
that does damage to the injection pump and injectors, as well as valves and
pistons. To run on WVO, the WVO MUST be cleaned, ALL water removed, and
contaminate particles from cooking removed, PLUS, cooking inserts acids
into the WVO which do extreme harm to engine and IP internals.  Further, to
successfully run CLEANED WVO, it must be pre-heated to 180 F and engine
start and shutdown MUST be done on clean pump diesel. Engine must be
brought to operating temperature BEFORE WVO is switched to the IP. Then,
pre-shutdown, you must switch back to pump diesel and run long enough to
purge ALL WVO from fuel pump, lines, IP, and injectors [rule of thumb here
is 8 miles of running].

True Certified BioDiesel which meets Schedule 52 requirements requires no
modification to fuel system, engine, or proceedure of operation. The only
major consideration is that Schedule 52 BioDiesel has a higher gell point
than Schedule 54 pump diesel, So, if you operate in cold climate, you may
want to not run BioDiesel in temps below gell point.

If the car has had WVO used, expect accelerated wear on the IP, Injectors,
and massive carbon on valves and combustion chambers. His stated problem
with fuel filters tells me, "Problems are already there."

Hope this helps...



On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 8:30 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So the guy says the PO ran waste oil in it and when dude bought it it ran
> rough. He said he changed out all fuel filters and fuel lines and it runs
> well now.
>
> I asked him if he knows how long the PO actually used waste oil.
>
> Pursue or run away?
>
> Bob R
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 9, 2019, at 7:04 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> >
> > Well if it has been run on bio it might mean  run away. That said my
> 2.5t ON 602 was best car I had in 55 years of driving. Maybe it is just the
> viton lines as Kevin said. Also find out what % BioD was run. Waste veg or
> commercial BioD?  Could be a good buy.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Feb 9, 2019 8:50 PM, "Bob Rentfro via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > What do you reckon “biodiesel converted” means? Waste veg kit installed?
> >
> > Dude hasn’t answered text yet.
> >
> > Bob R
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >
> > >
> > > 1992 Mercedes Benz 300D Turbo Diesel
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1992 Mercedes Benz 300D Turbo Diesel

2019-02-09 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 20:30:00 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
 wrote:

> So the guy says the PO ran waste oil in it and when dude bought it it
> ran rough. He said he changed out all fuel filters and fuel lines and
> it runs well now. 
> 
> I asked him if he knows how long the PO actually used waste oil. 
> 
> Pursue or run away?

Run away.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1992 Mercedes Benz 300D Turbo Diesel

2019-02-09 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
If it really has only 90k to 100k verified by records, my GUESS is that 
you'd be ok.  Likely the moron only ran enough sludge (VO or WVO) 
through it to plug the filters.  If the sludge sat in the tank a long 
time, you may need to take out the tank and clean it or replace it with 
a gasser tank.   If the guy had it longer and had actually changed the 
filters before, he would not have dumped it because the filters plugged.


I would guess the original or first and second owners had it until maybe 
5-10k miles ago, (or less) then the moron bought it and tried running 
unfiltered WVO in it, then dumped the car and the current flipper got it.


I doubt any serious damage has been done to the IP or engine.

If I bought it, here's what I'd do:  I'd put 2 main filters, 3 
prefilters and tools, blue gloves, + shop rags in the trunk.  I'd not 
put more than a half tank of diesel in it for 3-4 "fills".   If the 
filters don't plug by then perhaps the tank is ok.   Go to 3/4/ fills, 
then to full tanks.   Otherwise, if the filters plug frequently, buy a 
gasser tank, and swap out the tanks.


My experience:  documented somewhere in the archives:  FL POS (124 300D) 
had sat for years with veg oil in the tank.  It gelled, (polymerized) 
and the water did no good either.  no changes were made in the fuel 
system.  Just dump vo or wvo in the tank.  At some time the VO ate the 
DV orings in the IP.  It leaked grease, but the car sat long enough the 
grease polymerized and sealed the DVs again.  I put Diesel in and it 
ran, but I ended up taking the tank out, pressure washing the inside of 
it the best I could; dried it out as well as I could, then put it back 
in.  that process took 2-3 days.  that is why I suggested you just buy a 
gasser tank.


I think it could make you a great car, IF the mileage is true, and even 
if it is 300k, it could still make you a good car.


Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote on 2/9/19 9:30 PM:

So the guy says the PO ran waste oil in it and when dude bought it it ran 
rough. He said he changed out all fuel filters and fuel lines and it runs well 
now.

I asked him if he knows how long the PO actually used waste oil.

Pursue or run away?

Bob R

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 9, 2019, at 7:04 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:

Well if it has been run on bio it might mean  run away. That said my 2.5t ON 
602 was best car I had in 55 years of driving. Maybe it is just the viton lines 
as Kevin said. Also find out what % BioD was run. Waste veg or commercial BioD? 
 Could be a good buy.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Feb 9, 2019 8:50 PM, "Bob Rentfro via Mercedes"  
wrote:
What do you reckon “biodiesel converted” means? Waste veg kit installed?

Dude hasn’t answered text yet.

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1992 Mercedes Benz 300D Turbo Diesel

2019-02-09 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 19:49:29 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
 wrote:

> So I’m texting with the guy and he said PO installed and used waste
> oil. I’m asking for pics. 
> 
> Is that a deal breaker?

I would consider it such.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1992 Mercedes Benz 300D Turbo Diesel

2019-02-09 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
So the guy says the PO ran waste oil in it and when dude bought it it ran 
rough. He said he changed out all fuel filters and fuel lines and it runs well 
now. 

I asked him if he knows how long the PO actually used waste oil. 

Pursue or run away?

Bob R

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 9, 2019, at 7:04 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> Well if it has been run on bio it might mean  run away. That said my 2.5t ON 
> 602 was best car I had in 55 years of driving. Maybe it is just the viton 
> lines as Kevin said. Also find out what % BioD was run. Waste veg or 
> commercial BioD?  Could be a good buy.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Feb 9, 2019 8:50 PM, "Bob Rentfro via Mercedes"  
> wrote:
> What do you reckon “biodiesel converted” means? Waste veg kit installed?
> 
> Dude hasn’t answered text yet.
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
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> > 
> > 1992 Mercedes Benz 300D Turbo Diesel
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Re: [MBZ] Clay needs this

2019-02-09 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
IMHO, the frame is a bad design that uses square tubing, instead of round
DOM type tubing. The weld joints with square tubing present multiple stress
risers at every juncture where a corner intercepts another plane. Round DOM
type tubing, properly laid out reduces those intercept stresses.
The design could have much more strength without adding weight. Also, side
impact, roll over impact, and front and rear impact considerations are
abysmal, as it is designed.

Would be much more cost effective to start with a clean sheet and build a
car around a good Mercedes engine/trans. Besides, the body design sucks.
Classically sucks, but still sucks.

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 6:59 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> Discussion of the post suggested that chassis welds might not be
> sufficient for structural integrity so most any sort of engine might cause
> failure.
>
> --FT
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> > On Feb 9, 2019, at 6:17 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Looking at the suspension and frame setup makes my kidneys hurt without
> > even driving it.. Does not look like a comfortable car to drive any
> > distance.
> >
> > Having the increased weight of a diesel engine would, I think, really
> > disrupt the balance of the car for handling.
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 3:23 PM OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> YES! Probably an OM602 turbo though - not much room there.
> >> Someone drove on of these over 1000 miles to a home-built fly-in after
> he
> >> lost his medical - couldn't stop building, so switched to cars.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 3:13 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Drop in a 617 and a 4spd
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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[MBZ] Diesel Kleb Car

2019-02-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
An Okie Special:

https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/d/sarasota-2008-mercedes-e320-blutec/6810844799.html

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1992 Mercedes Benz 300D Turbo Diesel

2019-02-09 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
So I’m texting with the guy and he said PO installed and used waste oil. I’m 
asking for pics. 

Is that a deal breaker?

BobR

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> On Feb 9, 2019, at 7:04 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> Well if it has been run on bio it might mean  run away. That said my 2.5t ON 
> 602 was best car I had in 55 years of driving. Maybe it is just the viton 
> lines as Kevin said. Also find out what % BioD was run. Waste veg or 
> commercial BioD?  Could be a good buy.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Feb 9, 2019 8:50 PM, "Bob Rentfro via Mercedes"  
> wrote:
> What do you reckon “biodiesel converted” means? Waste veg kit installed?
> 
> Dude hasn’t answered text yet.
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> 
> > 
> > 1992 Mercedes Benz 300D Turbo Diesel
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Re: [MBZ] Expensive W210

2019-02-09 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
You going to buy it Jaime? I do like my w211 4matic here in New England.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> https://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/6795950572.html
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> But you could have it for as long as you could stand it... decades
> perhaps.  Its even for sale in a great neighborhood.  Checks all the boxes
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[MBZ] Expensive W210

2019-02-09 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
https://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/6795950572.html

But you could have it for as long as you could stand it... decades
perhaps.  Its even for sale in a great neighborhood.  Checks all the boxes


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1978 Mercedes 240D diesel

2019-02-09 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Agreed

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> Just buy it. Sight unseen. It’s worth it. The dude deserves every penny
> you’ll give him. Call now. You know you must.
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1992 Mercedes Benz 300D Turbo Diesel

2019-02-09 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Well if it has been run on bio it might mean  run away. That said my 2.5t
ON 602 was best car I had in 55 years of driving. Maybe it is just the
viton lines as Kevin said. Also find out what % BioD was run. Waste veg or
commercial BioD?  Could be a good buy.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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What do you reckon “biodiesel converted” means? Waste veg kit installed?

Dude hasn’t answered text yet.

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1978 Mercedes 240D diesel

2019-02-09 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Just buy it. Sight unseen. It’s worth it. The dude deserves every penny you’ll 
give him. Call now. You know you must. 

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Re: [MBZ] Clay needs this

2019-02-09 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Discussion of the post suggested that chassis welds might not be sufficient for 
structural integrity so most any sort of engine might cause failure. 

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> On Feb 9, 2019, at 6:17 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Looking at the suspension and frame setup makes my kidneys hurt without
> even driving it.. Does not look like a comfortable car to drive any
> distance.
> 
> Having the increased weight of a diesel engine would, I think, really
> disrupt the balance of the car for handling.
> 
> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 3:23 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
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> 
>> YES! Probably an OM602 turbo though - not much room there.
>> Someone drove on of these over 1000 miles to a home-built fly-in after he
>> lost his medical - couldn't stop building, so switched to cars.
>> 
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>>> Drop in a 617 and a 4spd
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1982 300CD Mercedes

2019-02-09 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
As,I mentioned a,while,ago- rear CD windows are often wonky. I had 2 MB
Indies tell me they would not work on the regulators so I got mine up &
 taped the switches. It does cut down on all windows,down coupe cool but I
love mine. I bet Edmonds values this over 10K.  A,rust free AZ CD if
as,advertised, seems like a real buy to me. YMMV

Dwight Giles Jr
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4matic
Wickford RI

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This looks interesting...windows wonky?

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1992 Mercedes Benz 300D Turbo Diesel

2019-02-09 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
Viton  fuel lines and injection return lines that won’t deteriorate when 
running biodiesel?

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> 
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[MBZ] Fwd: 1992 Mercedes Benz 300D Turbo Diesel

2019-02-09 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
What do you reckon “biodiesel converted” means? Waste veg kit installed?

Dude hasn’t answered text yet.

Bob R

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[MBZ] Fwd: 1982 300CD Mercedes

2019-02-09 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
This looks interesting...windows wonky?

Bob R

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[MBZ] Fwd: 1978 Mercedes 240D diesel

2019-02-09 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
I’d like to go look at this simply to meet the dude who wrote the post. 

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] Wow this is gorgeous 1966 Mercedes-Benz 250SE Cabriolet

2019-02-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Live fast, die hard, and leave a good-looking corpse behind!

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On 2/9/19 6:20 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

I used to be rich, I spent most of my fortune on fast cars, fast women, and
old whiskey, the rest I just squandered.

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 3:42 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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A guy about 15 mi. North of me had one of those, along with a bunch of
other MBs and convertibles.   It is a terrific car.His was all
original and looked like a museum piece.   I did not go to the auction
after he kicked the bucket.  He also owned a bunch of farms.   All from
selling insurance.

G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 2/9/19 3:01 PM:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1957-mercedes-benz-300sc/

Christmas is coming, and I promise to be good. In case anyone is thinking
of putting me on their Christmas list and has some disposable funds

[Hey. a man can dream. ;)) ]




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Re: [MBZ] Wow this is gorgeous 1966 Mercedes-Benz 250SE Cabriolet

2019-02-09 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I used to be rich, I spent most of my fortune on fast cars, fast women, and
old whiskey, the rest I just squandered.

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> A guy about 15 mi. North of me had one of those, along with a bunch of
> other MBs and convertibles.   It is a terrific car.His was all
> original and looked like a museum piece.   I did not go to the auction
> after he kicked the bucket.  He also owned a bunch of farms.   All from
> selling insurance.
>
> G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 2/9/19 3:01 PM:
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1957-mercedes-benz-300sc/
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Clay needs this

2019-02-09 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Looking at the suspension and frame setup makes my kidneys hurt without
even driving it.. Does not look like a comfortable car to drive any
distance.

Having the increased weight of a diesel engine would, I think, really
disrupt the balance of the car for handling.

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 3:23 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
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> YES! Probably an OM602 turbo though - not much room there.
> Someone drove on of these over 1000 miles to a home-built fly-in after he
> lost his medical - couldn't stop building, so switched to cars.
>
> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 3:13 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > Drop in a 617 and a 4spd
> >
> >
> >
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987-lotus-champion-locost-super-7-kit-lotus-champion-locost-super-7-kit/
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Re: [MBZ] How badly I want this interior

2019-02-09 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 16:29:58 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
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> Quite the color combo
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-mercedes-benz-300sel-3-5-8/


"... new KYB rear shocks were installed in 2015."


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[MBZ] Color is curiously dissatisfying on this car

2019-02-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1991-mercedes-benz-560sec-23/

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Re: [MBZ] BaT drooling on OT Eyetalyun

2019-02-09 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 16:11:38 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
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> I would love this car, kinda understated but I bet it would be great on 
> a long trip (as long as you had AAA paid up).
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2002-ferrari-456m/



That reminds me of what I was trying to purchase after my 1969 Lotus
Europa:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-ferrari-330gt-22/

I had seen an advertisement in Road and Track and was corresponding with
the fellow who owned it and posted the ad (his Ferrari was light blue).

I don't recall now what caused the deal to fall through, but I think it
had something to do with my selling my Lotus because when I went to the
local Mercedes dealer I could trade the Lotus in and not have to sell it.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1981 Mercedes Benz 300SD

2019-02-09 Thread ROGER HALE via Mercedes
Kaleb,

  I'm not sure what has been swapped.  Those seats look exactly like the 
ones in my 1980 300SD and they are original and they are leather.  Of course, 
my wife paid around $3K to replace the leather and pads front and rear less 
than a year after we purchased the car.  Yes, it's her car so I had to grin and 
bare it.  The seats are still great tho' after over 20 years.  I never cared 
for the wider, flatter 126 seats that always seemed to split at the seams.

Best Wishes,

Roger

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Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
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Re: [MBZ] How badly I want this interior

2019-02-09 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

Same as my first MB.


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 2/9/19 3:29 PM:

Quite the color combo

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-mercedes-benz-300sel-3-5-8/




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Re: [MBZ] Wow this is gorgeous 1966 Mercedes-Benz 250SE Cabriolet

2019-02-09 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
A guy about 15 mi. North of me had one of those, along with a bunch of 
other MBs and convertibles.   It is a terrific car.    His was all 
original and looked like a museum piece.   I did not go to the auction 
after he kicked the bucket.  He also owned a bunch of farms.   All from 
selling insurance.


G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 2/9/19 3:01 PM:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1957-mercedes-benz-300sc/

Christmas is coming, and I promise to be good. In case anyone is thinking
of putting me on their Christmas list and has some disposable funds

[Hey. a man can dream. ;)) ]





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Re: [MBZ] Wow this is gorgeous 1966 Mercedes-Benz 250SE Cabriolet

2019-02-09 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 14:01:44 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1957-mercedes-benz-300sc/
> 
> Christmas is coming, and I promise to be good. In case anyone is
> thinking of putting me on their Christmas list and has some disposable
> funds
> 
> [Hey. a man can dream. ;)) ]


With:  Current Bid: $227,000 Ends In: 6 days  , 

that's a lot of dreaming!


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Re: [MBZ] Clay needs this

2019-02-09 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
YES! Probably an OM602 turbo though - not much room there.
Someone drove on of these over 1000 miles to a home-built fly-in after he
lost his medical - couldn't stop building, so switched to cars.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Drop in a 617 and a 4spd
>
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987-lotus-champion-locost-super-7-kit-lotus-champion-locost-super-7-kit/
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Re: [MBZ] Wow this is gorgeous 1966 Mercedes-Benz 250SE Cabriolet

2019-02-09 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
It would be the perfect match for my Cessna -

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>
> Christmas is coming, and I promise to be good. In case anyone is thinking
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>
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>
> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 1:36 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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[MBZ] Tittle in hand

2019-02-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

wait, it's a car... never mind

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-01-mercedes-s430-in-great/6815636751.html

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[MBZ] How badly I want this interior

2019-02-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Quite the color combo

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-mercedes-benz-300sel-3-5-8/

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Re: [MBZ] Wow this is gorgeous 1966 Mercedes-Benz 250SE Cabriolet

2019-02-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

oh my.../Einspritzmotor!/

--FT

On 2/9/19 4:01 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1957-mercedes-benz-300sc/

Christmas is coming, and I promise to be good. In case anyone is thinking
of putting me on their Christmas list and has some disposable funds

[Hey. a man can dream. ;)) ]

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 1:36 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-mercedes-benz-250se-cabriolet-2/

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[MBZ] Clay needs this

2019-02-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Drop in a 617 and a 4spd

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987-lotus-champion-locost-super-7-kit-lotus-champion-locost-super-7-kit/

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[MBZ] BaT drooling on OT Eyetalyun

2019-02-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I would love this car, kinda understated but I bet it would be great on 
a long trip (as long as you had AAA paid up).


https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2002-ferrari-456m/

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Re: [MBZ] Wow this is gorgeous 1966 Mercedes-Benz 250SE Cabriolet

2019-02-09 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1957-mercedes-benz-300sc/

Christmas is coming, and I promise to be good. In case anyone is thinking
of putting me on their Christmas list and has some disposable funds

[Hey. a man can dream. ;)) ]

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> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-mercedes-benz-250se-cabriolet-2/
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Re: [MBZ] Wow this is gorgeous 1966 Mercedes-Benz 250SE Cabriolet

2019-02-09 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Yes, saw a nice one up close in Germany, circa 1998. It was parked at a 
country-side restaurant. 
-- 
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Charleston SC

On February 9, 2019 3:35:48 PM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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>https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-mercedes-benz-250se-cabriolet-2/

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Re: [MBZ] Finnie (and other) Fun

2019-02-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
The 78 CD is only 2 decades newer!  But I like the idea of flying a 60yo 
airplane, I 'm sure it is really more like actually flying than 
twiddling dials and such.  I flew Cherokee 140s and 6s and those were 
sorta basic airplanes too.  A buddy of mine flew Cessna 150s, those were 
fun too.


Saw a guy driving a gray CD this afternoon, it had some nice patina.  He 
(and the car) looked like he should be on the list, somewhat scruffy but 
serviceable.


Drove the SL600 on my Costco run, parked next to a 300D with the fender 
vent (I can never remember what year that is).


I was driving on our 2 lane road off the Island, some Bubba was riding 
my ass for about 6 miles in his large jacked-up truck. Speed limit not 
enough for him.  Got to the 4 lane, he whipped to the left lane to pass 
me as we turned.  I jumped on the throttle and ho-ree sh... I was doing 
80 before it even registered.  Bubba was about 200yd behind me but 
passed me a few minutes later, and blasted his loud mufflers for me.  At 
that point I still felt gratified, so let Bubba have his low-rent fun.  
I just can't get enough of that car, but after seeing the CD I decided I 
needed to get the brakes fixed up on the 78 and get it running for some 
spring and summer fun, another sort of gratification I think. I'll put 
that on my list...


--FT


On 2/9/19 2:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Yes, and most of your cars are decades newer than my airplane - 1957.

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 9:33 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Yeah some altitude adds a bit more excitement!

--FT

On 2/9/19 7:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, that’s the worst. You have a car puke on you and now you’re

sensitized to it. Everywhere you go in it you’re just waiting for the other
shoe to drop. I hate that.

And Don, you have far larger cohones than I ever will. I can’t imagine

doing it in an airplane, although a former coworker was an A&P DIY’er. To
the best of my knowledge he’s still alive and flying.

-D



On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:46 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <

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Great story. That’s totally me in the SL600. Completely paranoid.

Especially after the thermostat sticking and the car getting hot.   And
the$500E300 too. Every old car!

--R
Sent from iPhone


On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

A funny story:

Today I drove the 220SEb to work and then on to my headliner guy's

shop so he could survey it in anticipation of doing the headliner and
related items early next month. It's a roughly 20 mile drive one way to
work, half on surface streets and the other half on a reversible toll road
with limited access/highway speeds (65 mph.) It's a combination of the two
over to the headliner shop of about 10 miles, making the return back to the
house much the same of about 30 miles for a total of about 60 miles round
trip.

We've all been in my shoes - a relatively new (to you) unproven car,

taking it out on the road, listening to every noise, vibration, hum,
whatever, riding on the edge just waiting for something (bad) to happen.
You hear something and start to freak out

Drive to work - uneventful, maybe even fun. The toll road is a

reversible with three lanes, no access for roughly 11 miles. Very nice road
surface, new and smooth as glass. The car ran flawlessly, in fact, it found
a sweet spot in the upper 60s that made it sound great and was really
tracking and handling quite nicely, considering that I am in serious need
of new front springs. Cool. Got to work without an issue. Whew!

Drive to headliner shop - interstate and city streets, busy but the

car did well again. Not a problem.

Drive home, mostly interstate except for the last 10 miles or so,

which is surface streets. Again, ran well, no problems. Even fired up the
FrigiKing since it was nearly 80 and got some ice cubes running - well,
plenty of cold air. About a mile from home I was turning through an
intersection and it sounded like I ran over something small in the road.
Hmm. No problem, car was running fine. Probably a big rock or some piece of
junk I didn't see.

Pull into the garage. Need to straighten out the car a bit, so I put

it in reverse. It continues to creep forward. Hmm. Put it in neutral.
Creeps forward. OK, I'll just leave it here and I'll park the wife's SL500
so she doesn't bang the door into my car, since it was encroaching into her
space a little.

Get down on my hands and knees and take a look under the car. Yup.

Transmission linkage bushing failed. Got a couple on their way from the MB
warehouse in Jacksonville. I totally trust this car now.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] I found a bag of pills in the glove box and took them

2019-02-09 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 15:28:44 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> buy my wreck!  For $25k!
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-2018-mercedes-benz-glc-300/6815479668.html

Advanced light package lane-keeping assistance blind-spot assistance
multimedia premium package premium drivers assist keyless start keyless
entry power liftgate electromechanical steering backup camera telescope
tilt wheel distronic Plus designo Nappa leather package panoramic roof
heated ventilation seats Bluetooth MB race connect parktronic burmester
surround sound navigation XM Satellite

So what is MB race connect? Some commas in the list would help!

And he also misspells the abbreviation for "et cetera"!!!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1981 Mercedes Benz 300SD

2019-02-09 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 06:11:34 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
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> Thanks, guys. Good advice. 

So, when are you going to look at it and make an offer?


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[MBZ] Wow this is gorgeous 1966 Mercedes-Benz 250SE Cabriolet

2019-02-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-mercedes-benz-250se-cabriolet-2/

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[MBZ] I found a bag of pills in the glove box and took them

2019-02-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

buy my wreck!  For $25k!

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-2018-mercedes-benz-glc-300/6815479668.html

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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-09 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Exactly!

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 1:59 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Three most useless things in aviation:
> 1. Fuel still in the pump on the ground.
> 2. Runway behind you.
> 3. Altitude above you.
> BTDT all aviation wrecks start and end on the ground.. plan ahead.
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-09 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Three most useless things in aviation:
1. Fuel still in the pump on the ground.
2. Runway behind you.
3. Altitude above you.
BTDT all aviation wrecks start and end on the ground.. plan ahead.

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 12:39 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Yes, and most of your cars are decades newer than my airplane - 1957.
>
> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 9:33 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Yeah some altitude adds a bit more excitement!
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 2/9/19 7:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > > Yeah, that’s the worst. You have a car puke on you and now you’re
> > sensitized to it. Everywhere you go in it you’re just waiting for the
> other
> > shoe to drop. I hate that.
> > >
> > > And Don, you have far larger cohones than I ever will. I can’t imagine
> > doing it in an airplane, although a former coworker was an A&P DIY’er. To
> > the best of my knowledge he’s still alive and flying.
> > >
> > > -D
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:46 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Great story. That’s totally me in the SL600. Completely paranoid.
> > Especially after the thermostat sticking and the car getting hot.   And
> > the$500E300 too. Every old car!
> > >>
> > >> --R
> > >> Sent from iPhone
> > >>
> > >>> On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> A funny story:
> > >>>
> > >>> Today I drove the 220SEb to work and then on to my headliner guy's
> > shop so he could survey it in anticipation of doing the headliner and
> > related items early next month. It's a roughly 20 mile drive one way to
> > work, half on surface streets and the other half on a reversible toll
> road
> > with limited access/highway speeds (65 mph.) It's a combination of the
> two
> > over to the headliner shop of about 10 miles, making the return back to
> the
> > house much the same of about 30 miles for a total of about 60 miles round
> > trip.
> > >>>
> > >>> We've all been in my shoes - a relatively new (to you) unproven car,
> > taking it out on the road, listening to every noise, vibration, hum,
> > whatever, riding on the edge just waiting for something (bad) to happen.
> > You hear something and start to freak out
> > >>>
> > >>> Drive to work - uneventful, maybe even fun. The toll road is a
> > reversible with three lanes, no access for roughly 11 miles. Very nice
> road
> > surface, new and smooth as glass. The car ran flawlessly, in fact, it
> found
> > a sweet spot in the upper 60s that made it sound great and was really
> > tracking and handling quite nicely, considering that I am in serious need
> > of new front springs. Cool. Got to work without an issue. Whew!
> > >>>
> > >>> Drive to headliner shop - interstate and city streets, busy but the
> > car did well again. Not a problem.
> > >>>
> > >>> Drive home, mostly interstate except for the last 10 miles or so,
> > which is surface streets. Again, ran well, no problems. Even fired up the
> > FrigiKing since it was nearly 80 and got some ice cubes running - well,
> > plenty of cold air. About a mile from home I was turning through an
> > intersection and it sounded like I ran over something small in the road.
> > Hmm. No problem, car was running fine. Probably a big rock or some piece
> of
> > junk I didn't see.
> > >>>
> > >>> Pull into the garage. Need to straighten out the car a bit, so I put
> > it in reverse. It continues to creep forward. Hmm. Put it in neutral.
> > Creeps forward. OK, I'll just leave it here and I'll park the wife's
> SL500
> > so she doesn't bang the door into my car, since it was encroaching into
> her
> > space a little.
> > >>>
> > >>> Get down on my hands and knees and take a look under the car. Yup.
> > Transmission linkage bushing failed. Got a couple on their way from the
> MB
> > warehouse in Jacksonville. I totally trust this car now.
> > >>>
> > >>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-09 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Yes, and most of your cars are decades newer than my airplane - 1957.

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 9:33 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yeah some altitude adds a bit more excitement!
>
> --FT
>
> On 2/9/19 7:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > Yeah, that’s the worst. You have a car puke on you and now you’re
> sensitized to it. Everywhere you go in it you’re just waiting for the other
> shoe to drop. I hate that.
> >
> > And Don, you have far larger cohones than I ever will. I can’t imagine
> doing it in an airplane, although a former coworker was an A&P DIY’er. To
> the best of my knowledge he’s still alive and flying.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:46 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Great story. That’s totally me in the SL600. Completely paranoid.
> Especially after the thermostat sticking and the car getting hot.   And
> the$500E300 too. Every old car!
> >>
> >> --R
> >> Sent from iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> A funny story:
> >>>
> >>> Today I drove the 220SEb to work and then on to my headliner guy's
> shop so he could survey it in anticipation of doing the headliner and
> related items early next month. It's a roughly 20 mile drive one way to
> work, half on surface streets and the other half on a reversible toll road
> with limited access/highway speeds (65 mph.) It's a combination of the two
> over to the headliner shop of about 10 miles, making the return back to the
> house much the same of about 30 miles for a total of about 60 miles round
> trip.
> >>>
> >>> We've all been in my shoes - a relatively new (to you) unproven car,
> taking it out on the road, listening to every noise, vibration, hum,
> whatever, riding on the edge just waiting for something (bad) to happen.
> You hear something and start to freak out
> >>>
> >>> Drive to work - uneventful, maybe even fun. The toll road is a
> reversible with three lanes, no access for roughly 11 miles. Very nice road
> surface, new and smooth as glass. The car ran flawlessly, in fact, it found
> a sweet spot in the upper 60s that made it sound great and was really
> tracking and handling quite nicely, considering that I am in serious need
> of new front springs. Cool. Got to work without an issue. Whew!
> >>>
> >>> Drive to headliner shop - interstate and city streets, busy but the
> car did well again. Not a problem.
> >>>
> >>> Drive home, mostly interstate except for the last 10 miles or so,
> which is surface streets. Again, ran well, no problems. Even fired up the
> FrigiKing since it was nearly 80 and got some ice cubes running - well,
> plenty of cold air. About a mile from home I was turning through an
> intersection and it sounded like I ran over something small in the road.
> Hmm. No problem, car was running fine. Probably a big rock or some piece of
> junk I didn't see.
> >>>
> >>> Pull into the garage. Need to straighten out the car a bit, so I put
> it in reverse. It continues to creep forward. Hmm. Put it in neutral.
> Creeps forward. OK, I'll just leave it here and I'll park the wife's SL500
> so she doesn't bang the door into my car, since it was encroaching into her
> space a little.
> >>>
> >>> Get down on my hands and knees and take a look under the car. Yup.
> Transmission linkage bushing failed. Got a couple on their way from the MB
> warehouse in Jacksonville. I totally trust this car now.
> >>>
> >>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1981 Mercedes Benz 300SD

2019-02-09 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
"Nothing is more expensive than a cheap Mercedes."

Of course, there are exceptions, but it's generally true.

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 7:01 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Roger makes a good point I’ve always tried to stick with as well - buy the
> best example you can afford, it’s far cheaper in the long run.
>
> -D
>
> > On Feb 9, 2019, at 7:55 AM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> >  I have a 1980 300SD (over 420,00 miles) and a 1983 300D (over
> 360,000 miles), both with the 617 engines.  The good about this car is it
> must be an early 1981 as it has the 116 seats and not the 126 zippers,
> waiting to rip apart seats.  As to the wheels, I've used the allows for
> over 20 years with no problems.  Personally don't like the chrome as they
> gave these models a pimp mobile look.  If it starts good, shifts good,
> etc., then I'd look under the plastic sides for any hidden rust and look at
> the suspension for any excess wear etc.  If all is ok, the AC should be an
> easy fix.  Adjust the valves first.
> >
> > As to the price, it should be around $2800-3200 for this condition,
> after all it's still a very old car with old parts.  However, at that
> mileage, you've got years left on that engine.  I realize there are those
> on this list that want a bottom feeder price for anything they buy.  Just
> look close and pay accordingly.  I probably paid more for both of my cars
> than this list would have approved.  But, I've gotten over 20 years each
> with nothing beyond the normal items as they've aged, and I've immensely
> enjoyed both cars and still do.
> >
> > So, good luck and best wishes.  Most of all look close and make your own
> decisions.
> >
> > Roger
> >
> > Roger Hale
> > Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> > Monroe, Ga.
> > 770-267-0850
> > www.dinnerwareclassics.com
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Yeah some altitude adds a bit more excitement!

--FT

On 2/9/19 7:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, that’s the worst. You have a car puke on you and now you’re sensitized to 
it. Everywhere you go in it you’re just waiting for the other shoe to drop. I 
hate that.

And Don, you have far larger cohones than I ever will. I can’t imagine doing it in 
an airplane, although a former coworker was an A&P DIY’er. To the best of my 
knowledge he’s still alive and flying.

-D



On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:46 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Great story. That’s totally me in the SL600. Completely paranoid. Especially 
after the thermostat sticking and the car getting hot.   And the$500E300 too. 
Every old car!

--R
Sent from iPhone


On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

A funny story:

Today I drove the 220SEb to work and then on to my headliner guy's shop so he 
could survey it in anticipation of doing the headliner and related items early 
next month. It's a roughly 20 mile drive one way to work, half on surface 
streets and the other half on a reversible toll road with limited 
access/highway speeds (65 mph.) It's a combination of the two over to the 
headliner shop of about 10 miles, making the return back to the house much the 
same of about 30 miles for a total of about 60 miles round trip.

We've all been in my shoes - a relatively new (to you) unproven car, taking it 
out on the road, listening to every noise, vibration, hum, whatever, riding on 
the edge just waiting for something (bad) to happen. You hear something and 
start to freak out

Drive to work - uneventful, maybe even fun. The toll road is a reversible with 
three lanes, no access for roughly 11 miles. Very nice road surface, new and 
smooth as glass. The car ran flawlessly, in fact, it found a sweet spot in the 
upper 60s that made it sound great and was really tracking and handling quite 
nicely, considering that I am in serious need of new front springs. Cool. Got 
to work without an issue. Whew!

Drive to headliner shop - interstate and city streets, busy but the car did 
well again. Not a problem.

Drive home, mostly interstate except for the last 10 miles or so, which is 
surface streets. Again, ran well, no problems. Even fired up the FrigiKing 
since it was nearly 80 and got some ice cubes running - well, plenty of cold 
air. About a mile from home I was turning through an intersection and it 
sounded like I ran over something small in the road. Hmm. No problem, car was 
running fine. Probably a big rock or some piece of junk I didn't see.

Pull into the garage. Need to straighten out the car a bit, so I put it in 
reverse. It continues to creep forward. Hmm. Put it in neutral. Creeps forward. 
OK, I'll just leave it here and I'll park the wife's SL500 so she doesn't bang 
the door into my car, since it was encroaching into her space a little.

Get down on my hands and knees and take a look under the car. Yup. Transmission 
linkage bushing failed. Got a couple on their way from the MB warehouse in 
Jacksonville. I totally trust this car now.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-09 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Bingo.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On February 8, 2019 10:17:02 PM EST, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>But that is the thrill of our game.
>

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1981 Mercedes Benz 300SD

2019-02-09 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Those are not 116 seats they are the standard 126 mb Tex seats 

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> On Feb 9, 2019, at 6:55 AM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Bob,
> 
>  I have a 1980 300SD (over 420,00 miles) and a 1983 300D (over 360,000 
> miles), both with the 617 engines.  The good about this car is it must be an 
> early 1981 as it has the 116 seats and not the 126 zippers, waiting to rip 
> apart seats.  As to the wheels, I've used the allows for over 20 years with 
> no problems.  Personally don't like the chrome as they gave these models a 
> pimp mobile look.  If it starts good, shifts good, etc., then I'd look under 
> the plastic sides for any hidden rust and look at the suspension for any 
> excess wear etc.  If all is ok, the AC should be an easy fix.  Adjust the 
> valves first.
> 
> As to the price, it should be around $2800-3200 for this condition, after 
> all it's still a very old car with old parts.  However, at that mileage, 
> you've got years left on that engine.  I realize there are those on this list 
> that want a bottom feeder price for anything they buy.  Just look close and 
> pay accordingly.  I probably paid more for both of my cars than this list 
> would have approved.  But, I've gotten over 20 years each with nothing beyond 
> the normal items as they've aged, and I've immensely enjoyed both cars and 
> still do.
> 
> So, good luck and best wishes.  Most of all look close and make your own 
> decisions.
> 
> Roger
> 
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1981 Mercedes Benz 300SD

2019-02-09 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Thanks, guys. Good advice. 

Bob R

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> On Feb 9, 2019, at 6:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Roger makes a good point I’ve always tried to stick with as well - buy the 
> best example you can afford, it’s far cheaper in the long run.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Feb 9, 2019, at 7:55 AM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Bob,
>> 
>> I have a 1980 300SD (over 420,00 miles) and a 1983 300D (over 360,000 
>> miles), both with the 617 engines.  The good about this car is it must be an 
>> early 1981 as it has the 116 seats and not the 126 zippers, waiting to rip 
>> apart seats.  As to the wheels, I've used the allows for over 20 years with 
>> no problems.  Personally don't like the chrome as they gave these models a 
>> pimp mobile look.  If it starts good, shifts good, etc., then I'd look under 
>> the plastic sides for any hidden rust and look at the suspension for any 
>> excess wear etc.  If all is ok, the AC should be an easy fix.  Adjust the 
>> valves first.
>> 
>>As to the price, it should be around $2800-3200 for this condition, after 
>> all it's still a very old car with old parts.  However, at that mileage, 
>> you've got years left on that engine.  I realize there are those on this 
>> list that want a bottom feeder price for anything they buy.  Just look close 
>> and pay accordingly.  I probably paid more for both of my cars than this 
>> list would have approved.  But, I've gotten over 20 years each with nothing 
>> beyond the normal items as they've aged, and I've immensely enjoyed both 
>> cars and still do.
>> 
>> So, good luck and best wishes.  Most of all look close and make your own 
>> decisions.
>> 
>> Roger
>> 
>> Roger Hale
>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>> Monroe, Ga.
>> 770-267-0850
>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1981 Mercedes Benz 300SD

2019-02-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Roger makes a good point I’ve always tried to stick with as well - buy the best 
example you can afford, it’s far cheaper in the long run.

-D

> On Feb 9, 2019, at 7:55 AM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Bob,
> 
>  I have a 1980 300SD (over 420,00 miles) and a 1983 300D (over 360,000 
> miles), both with the 617 engines.  The good about this car is it must be an 
> early 1981 as it has the 116 seats and not the 126 zippers, waiting to rip 
> apart seats.  As to the wheels, I've used the allows for over 20 years with 
> no problems.  Personally don't like the chrome as they gave these models a 
> pimp mobile look.  If it starts good, shifts good, etc., then I'd look under 
> the plastic sides for any hidden rust and look at the suspension for any 
> excess wear etc.  If all is ok, the AC should be an easy fix.  Adjust the 
> valves first.
> 
> As to the price, it should be around $2800-3200 for this condition, after 
> all it's still a very old car with old parts.  However, at that mileage, 
> you've got years left on that engine.  I realize there are those on this list 
> that want a bottom feeder price for anything they buy.  Just look close and 
> pay accordingly.  I probably paid more for both of my cars than this list 
> would have approved.  But, I've gotten over 20 years each with nothing beyond 
> the normal items as they've aged, and I've immensely enjoyed both cars and 
> still do.
> 
> So, good luck and best wishes.  Most of all look close and make your own 
> decisions.
> 
> Roger
> 
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
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[MBZ] Fwd: 1981 Mercedes Benz 300SD

2019-02-09 Thread ROGER HALE via Mercedes
Bob,

  I have a 1980 300SD (over 420,00 miles) and a 1983 300D (over 360,000 
miles), both with the 617 engines.  The good about this car is it must be an 
early 1981 as it has the 116 seats and not the 126 zippers, waiting to rip 
apart seats.  As to the wheels, I've used the allows for over 20 years with no 
problems.  Personally don't like the chrome as they gave these models a pimp 
mobile look.  If it starts good, shifts good, etc., then I'd look under the 
plastic sides for any hidden rust and look at the suspension for any excess 
wear etc.  If all is ok, the AC should be an easy fix.  Adjust the valves first.

 As to the price, it should be around $2800-3200 for this condition, after 
all it's still a very old car with old parts.  However, at that mileage, you've 
got years left on that engine.  I realize there are those on this list that 
want a bottom feeder price for anything they buy.  Just look close and pay 
accordingly.  I probably paid more for both of my cars than this list would 
have approved.  But, I've gotten over 20 years each with nothing beyond the 
normal items as they've aged, and I've immensely enjoyed both cars and still do.

So, good luck and best wishes.  Most of all look close and make your own 
decisions.

Roger

Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

2019-02-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yeah, that’s the worst. You have a car puke on you and now you’re sensitized to 
it. Everywhere you go in it you’re just waiting for the other shoe to drop. I 
hate that.

And Don, you have far larger cohones than I ever will. I can’t imagine doing it 
in an airplane, although a former coworker was an A&P DIY’er. To the best of my 
knowledge he’s still alive and flying.

-D


> On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:46 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Great story. That’s totally me in the SL600. Completely paranoid. Especially 
> after the thermostat sticking and the car getting hot.   And the$500E300 too. 
> Every old car!
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2019, at 9:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> A funny story:
>> 
>> Today I drove the 220SEb to work and then on to my headliner guy's shop so 
>> he could survey it in anticipation of doing the headliner and related items 
>> early next month. It's a roughly 20 mile drive one way to work, half on 
>> surface streets and the other half on a reversible toll road with limited 
>> access/highway speeds (65 mph.) It's a combination of the two over to the 
>> headliner shop of about 10 miles, making the return back to the house much 
>> the same of about 30 miles for a total of about 60 miles round trip.
>> 
>> We've all been in my shoes - a relatively new (to you) unproven car, taking 
>> it out on the road, listening to every noise, vibration, hum, whatever, 
>> riding on the edge just waiting for something (bad) to happen. You hear 
>> something and start to freak out
>> 
>> Drive to work - uneventful, maybe even fun. The toll road is a reversible 
>> with three lanes, no access for roughly 11 miles. Very nice road surface, 
>> new and smooth as glass. The car ran flawlessly, in fact, it found a sweet 
>> spot in the upper 60s that made it sound great and was really tracking and 
>> handling quite nicely, considering that I am in serious need of new front 
>> springs. Cool. Got to work without an issue. Whew!
>> 
>> Drive to headliner shop - interstate and city streets, busy but the car did 
>> well again. Not a problem.
>> 
>> Drive home, mostly interstate except for the last 10 miles or so, which is 
>> surface streets. Again, ran well, no problems. Even fired up the FrigiKing 
>> since it was nearly 80 and got some ice cubes running - well, plenty of cold 
>> air. About a mile from home I was turning through an intersection and it 
>> sounded like I ran over something small in the road. Hmm. No problem, car 
>> was running fine. Probably a big rock or some piece of junk I didn't see.
>> 
>> Pull into the garage. Need to straighten out the car a bit, so I put it in 
>> reverse. It continues to creep forward. Hmm. Put it in neutral. Creeps 
>> forward. OK, I'll just leave it here and I'll park the wife's SL500 so she 
>> doesn't bang the door into my car, since it was encroaching into her space a 
>> little.
>> 
>> Get down on my hands and knees and take a look under the car. Yup. 
>> Transmission linkage bushing failed. Got a couple on their way from the MB 
>> warehouse in Jacksonville. I totally trust this car now.
>> 
>> Dan
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