Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla power

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Amen
 Say on

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 12:07 AM G Mann via Mercedes 
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> Musk is a self absorbed savant... who truly believes only HE has the
> answers and has a long history of failing to hand off empowerment to
> others
> In the world of inventors, through history, that has been the kiss of
> ultimate failure. My assessment of his pattern says, that is exactly where
> Tesla is directed along with his other projects...
>
> Only my views, your view may be different. I can respect that... but I
> won't be investing.
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 8:20 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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>
> > I would. He is light on details.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 11:09 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I wouldn't bet against him.  A lot of smart investors are believers.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 5:54 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 21/08/2019 4:34 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
> > > > > That's my assessment of Tesla from A to Z.  Musk may be smart, but
> he
> > > > needs detail people to keep things in line as he is both unwilling
> and
> > > > unable to.
> > > > >
> > > > > Seen anything about HyperLoop lately?  Never gonna get past the
> > random
> > > > bits testing stage, it didn't work in 1850 for a good reason.
> > > > > ___
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla power

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Musk is a self absorbed savant... who truly believes only HE has the
answers and has a long history of failing to hand off empowerment to
others
In the world of inventors, through history, that has been the kiss of
ultimate failure. My assessment of his pattern says, that is exactly where
Tesla is directed along with his other projects...

Only my views, your view may be different. I can respect that... but I
won't be investing.

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 8:20 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I would. He is light on details.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 11:09 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I wouldn't bet against him.  A lot of smart investors are believers.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 5:54 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 21/08/2019 4:34 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
> > > > That's my assessment of Tesla from A to Z.  Musk may be smart, but he
> > > needs detail people to keep things in line as he is both unwilling and
> > > unable to.
> > > >
> > > > Seen anything about HyperLoop lately?  Never gonna get past the
> random
> > > bits testing stage, it didn't work in 1850 for a good reason.
> > > > ___
> > > He needs to take a page out of Bill Gates play book and hire some good
> > > people to help run the show.
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Re: [MBZ] Pre-glow relay

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Jim Cathey would already have done it. ;)
Inspect the board for bad solder joints while you're there...
Curt

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  On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 11:31 AM, Max Dillon via 
Mercedes wrote:   Died in my '95 E300 (124.131).  One 
day after starting the car, the glow light came on while I was driving, and 
stayed on until I disconnected both plugs from the relay.  Since then, the 
relay only works about 2 of every 3 tries.

All the glow plugs test fine (measuring current).

Replaced the relay, dated September of 99, with a used relay from a w140, dated 
November of 94 with a different part number.

Opened up the faulty relay, looks like only three capacitors I could replace.
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[MBZ] Pre-glow relay

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Died in my '95 E300 (124.131).  One day after starting the car, the glow light 
came on while I was driving, and stayed on until I disconnected both plugs from 
the relay.  Since then, the relay only works about 2 of every 3 tries.

All the glow plugs test fine (measuring current).

Replaced the relay, dated September of 99, with a used relay from a w140, dated 
November of 94 with a different part number.

Opened up the faulty relay, looks like only three capacitors I could replace.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] FAkeBuch Genjus foren

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Anybody here need some decent front brake calipers from an 85 wagon? Worked
when removed from car. Switched to w126 fronts. Otherwise I will post them
on Facebook or sell them for scrap.

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> This sums up the 123 dumbass group perfectly.
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> > On Aug 21, 2019, at 6:12 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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> >
> > Well said.
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Re: [MBZ] I had a hitchhiker this morning

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Avoiding fried frog legs

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> It rides in style.
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 10:51 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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> > Tree frog.
> > --
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla power

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I would. He is light on details.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 11:09 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I wouldn't bet against him.  A lot of smart investors are believers.
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 5:54 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > On 21/08/2019 4:34 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
> > > That's my assessment of Tesla from A to Z.  Musk may be smart, but he
> > needs detail people to keep things in line as he is both unwilling and
> > unable to.
> > >
> > > Seen anything about HyperLoop lately?  Never gonna get past the random
> > bits testing stage, it didn't work in 1850 for a good reason.
> > > ___
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> > people to help run the show.
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Re: [MBZ] I had a hitchhiker this morning

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Had a bright green one on a bedroom window, 9-10' off the ground the other day. 
Mitch. 
> On August 21, 2019 at 10:50 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> 
> Tree frog.
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Re: [MBZ] I had a hitchhiker this morning

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It rides in style.

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> Tree frog.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla power

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I wouldn't bet against him.  A lot of smart investors are believers.

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 5:54 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On 21/08/2019 4:34 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
> > That's my assessment of Tesla from A to Z.  Musk may be smart, but he
> needs detail people to keep things in line as he is both unwilling and
> unable to.
> >
> > Seen anything about HyperLoop lately?  Never gonna get past the random
> bits testing stage, it didn't work in 1850 for a good reason.
> > ___
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Re: [MBZ] I had a hitchhiker this morning

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Tree frog.
-- 
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Charleston SC

On August 21, 2019 10:35:06 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: From cow poop to nat. gas

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

LOL
Bring the vampires into the light.

Curt

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  On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 7:02 AM, Max Dillon wrote:   
Yep, exposure to sunlight and oxygen does wonders to improve stinky organic 
things, politicians included.
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Charleston SC

On August 21, 2019 6:18:21 PM EDT, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>It only smells for a day or two. They spread manure on the field across
>the road from my parents house. Usually it gets spread on a hot, humid
>day in the middle of the summer...
>
>Curt
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>On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 4:16 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via
>Mercedes wrote:  So long as you don't mind the
>stench as the manure is either composted or
>spread raw on fields next door...
>
>On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 3:53 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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>
>> Fertilizer.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 21/08/2019 2:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> > > SO what's a better thing to do with cow manure?
>> > >
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Re: [MBZ] FAkeBuch Genjus foren

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This sums up the 123 dumbass group perfectly. 

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> On Aug 21, 2019, at 6:12 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
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> 
> Well said.
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>> On August 21, 2019 2:06:37 PM EDT, Clay Monroe via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] FAkeBuch Genjus foren

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Well said.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] OT: From cow poop to nat. gas

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Yep, exposure to sunlight and oxygen does wonders to improve stinky organic 
things, politicians included.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On August 21, 2019 6:18:21 PM EDT, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
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>It only smells for a day or two. They spread manure on the field across
>the road from my parents house. Usually it gets spread on a hot, humid
>day in the middle of the summer...
>
>Curt
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>On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 4:16 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via
>Mercedes wrote:   So long as you don't mind the
>stench as the manure is either composted or
>spread raw on fields next door...
>
>On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 3:53 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Fertilizer.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 21/08/2019 2:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> > > SO what's a better thing to do with cow manure?
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Re: [MBZ] OT: From cow poop to nat. gas

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

It only smells for a day or two. They spread manure on the field across the 
road from my parents house. Usually it gets spread on a hot, humid day in the 
middle of the summer...

Curt

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  On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 4:16 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via 
Mercedes wrote:   So long as you don't mind the stench 
as the manure is either composted or
spread raw on fields next door...

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 3:53 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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> Fertilizer.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
>
> > On 21/08/2019 2:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > > SO what's a better thing to do with cow manure?
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Re: [MBZ] OT: From cow poop to nat. gas

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

That sort of methane is wicked corrosive. It's not a "set and forget" kind of 
setup, requires lots of maintenance and fiddling. My dad has worked on 
several.It also needs a bulk of feedstock to make any significant energy. 
That's why you tend to see them on cattle farms.The smell is, strong...

Curt

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Mercedes wrote:   I recall reading an article in, I 
think, National Geographic, a number 
of years ago about bio-digesters in remote areas in places like India. I 
thought it a great idea and wondered why we don't do things like that 
here. It seemed a good solution to a number of problems. Essentially, 
dump all of the waste of whatever nature into a big underground tank and 
let it ferment and capture the gas that it produced. I am sure there are 
some potential issues that would need to be sorted out for safety and we 
might not want such in the back yards of every urban home, but the idea 
certainly seemed to have merit for folks on more rural properties with 
some room to do it. There was talk, a number of years ago, about 
collecting the methane produced by the local landfill, but it never 
happened.



On 21/08/2019 2:27 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> I think you nailed it Randy, most of the "solutions" to the perceived
> "problem" are from the third world.  Seems to be the direction we are being
> forced into.
>
> Ayn Rand's "Anthem" comes to mind.
> -
> Max
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla power

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 21/08/2019 4:34 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:

That's my assessment of Tesla from A to Z.  Musk may be smart, but he needs 
detail people to keep things in line as he is both unwilling and unable to.

Seen anything about HyperLoop lately?  Never gonna get past the random bits 
testing stage, it didn't work in 1850 for a good reason.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla power

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

That's my assessment of Tesla from A to Z.  Musk may be smart, but he needs 
detail people to keep things in line as he is both unwilling and unable to.

Seen anything about HyperLoop lately?  Never gonna get past the random bits 
testing stage, it didn't work in 1850 for a good reason.
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Re: [MBZ] 280SE 3.5 cab on BAT

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 21/08/2019 4:27 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

No sale at $245k.
I wonder what the seller was hoping for.

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Re: [MBZ] 280SE 3.5 cab on BAT

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

No sale at $245k. 
I wonder what the seller was hoping for.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: USAF turns a manned airplane into a drone!

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I shared this discussion with my son who works at Tinker AFB, here's his
response:

"They're up to the QF-16 now! I saw the control room for these based at
Eglin AFB."
https://youtu.be/E_A_rEZoXSg


On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 3:05 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Correct, back in about 1982 I was part of a group that contracted to put a
> number of F 100 aircraft that had been in "dry storage" into flight status
> with remote flight control. They were used as target drones for training
> fighter pilots.
> On completion of the conversion, they could take off, fly to the range, fly
> a number of aerobatic diversion maneuvers, including target radar on the
> attack aircraft. Since they were unmanned, and scheduled for ultimate shoot
> down, they were subject to violent G force actions no live pilot could
> survive... Control was from another aircraft which flew in high orbit over
> the range. From the chase /control plane we could also land them to "fight
> another day" thus extending the useful training life of the aircraft..
> The remains of all of them are now "parked" across the range... or, more
> correctly... "scattered"
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 9:30 AM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 10:54:26 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > I thought they had used regular aircraft operated remote control for
> > > years.   Maybe the difference is that this is a drone (C3Po) operating
> > > a drone.
> >
> > The USAF has used regular aircraft, in the case I know F-100s and F-102s,
> > operated by remote control since at least 1973.
> >
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> > > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote on 8/19/19 9:59 AM:
> > > > Scientists say new ROBOpilot completed a two-hour test flight,
> > > > essentially turning a manned plane into a drone.
> > > > AUGUST 16, 2019
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[MBZ] Michigan Mitch's Next Car

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Go for it, Mitch!

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-benz-cars-sale/400590-87-mercedes-190d-turbo-diesel-michigan-%241600.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla power

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 21/08/2019 3:25 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Walmart has sued Tesla Inc, accusing it of 'widespread negligence' that led to 
repeated fires of its solar systems and asking a court to force Tesla to remove 
solar panels from more than 240 of its stores across the country.

Solar energy systems installed and maintained by the electric car maker were 
responsible for fires at seven locations, with dozens showing hazardous

problems such as loose wiring and 'hot spots' on panels, according to court 
papers filed in New York State Supreme Court on Tuesday.

The lawsuit accuses Tesla of having untrained workers putting up shoddy 
installations and showing 'utter incompetence or callousness, or both,' court 
papers said.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7379707/Walmart-sues-Tesla-solar-panels-burst-flames-eight-stores.html

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Ah, what's a little fire when you are trying to be green and save the 
planet? Fire is a natural thing and thus obviously a good thing. Walmart 
probably caused the fire by not being green enough and using too much 
electricity. If they had just turned out all the lights and saved 
energy, all would have been good.


(Sounds like Tesla should have settled this one and kept it quiet before 
the recent announcement that they were going back into the solar power 
business.)



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Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws

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On 21/08/2019 3:16 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Yep, it's a real lesson in the power of centrifugal force multiplied by
speed.
Sounds like you Dad had it all dialed in. My Grandfather was the one who
got me to doing it. He had "Skills" that few had, in a bunch of old school
things.
Yes, my father had grown up with it. His father had a shingle mill. I 
don't know whether they sawed lumber as well or if it was just shingles.


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[MBZ] OT: Tesla power

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Walmart has sued Tesla Inc, accusing it of 'widespread negligence' that led to 
repeated fires of its solar systems and asking a court to force Tesla to remove 
solar panels from more than 240 of its stores across the country.

Solar energy systems installed and maintained by the electric car maker were 
responsible for fires at seven locations, with dozens showing hazardous

problems such as loose wiring and 'hot spots' on panels, according to court 
papers filed in New York State Supreme Court on Tuesday.

The lawsuit accuses Tesla of having untrained workers putting up shoddy 
installations and showing 'utter incompetence or callousness, or both,' court 
papers said.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7379707/Walmart-sues-Tesla-solar-panels-burst-flames-eight-stores.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Yep, it's a real lesson in the power of centrifugal force multiplied by
speed.
Sounds like you Dad had it all dialed in. My Grandfather was the one who
got me to doing it. He had "Skills" that few had, in a bunch of old school
things.

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 1:01 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On 21/08/2019 2:47 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > Yes, the teeth are replaceable, takes a special tool and practice to set
> > the new or old teeth so they run to make a clean cut with the correct
> tooth
> > pitch and sequence. Then, after sharpening each tooth, you have to set
> them
> > all to the same height so the saw cuts correctly. On an 80 inch blade,
> > you'll want to pack lunch. It takes a while, and if you are cutting old
> > growth hardwood with high dollar value, you want cuts to be clean, clear,
> > straight, and near perfect, or your money goes up the sawdust chute.
> > If the blade is done right, you have all the teeth tracking and zero
> tooth
> > marks on the plank. Well, that was the goal, anyway.
> >
> > Just did a search and found they are still available, as is the insertion
> > tool...
> > http://www.simondsint.com/circularsaws/Pages/Items/08999F.aspx
> >
>
> Yes, that is the sort of thing that we used as well. Our blade was
> smaller - I think about 48 inches.
>
> I cannot put the sharpening and setting on my resume. My father always
> did it. I sometimes watched but he was very particular about it as he
> was not wanting the blade to throw teeth at him. I remember him cleaning
> the blade and oiling the saw blade before using the tool to sort of roll
> the insert and the new tooth into the gullet of the blade.
>
> One of the local fellows who ran a marina for most of his life had a
> desire to have a saw mill and bought a portable unit in his retirement
> years. The first time that he changed the teeth, he did not do a good
> job of doing so and it threw a number of teeth at him. None hit him,
> thank fully but it sure scared him.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: From cow poop to nat. gas

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

So long as you don't mind the stench as the manure is either composted or
spread raw on fields next door...

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 3:53 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Fertilizer.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
>
> > On 21/08/2019 2:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > > SO what's a better thing to do with cow manure?
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 21/08/2019 2:47 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Yes, the teeth are replaceable, takes a special tool and practice to set
the new or old teeth so they run to make a clean cut with the correct tooth
pitch and sequence. Then, after sharpening each tooth, you have to set them
all to the same height so the saw cuts correctly. On an 80 inch blade,
you'll want to pack lunch. It takes a while, and if you are cutting old
growth hardwood with high dollar value, you want cuts to be clean, clear,
straight, and near perfect, or your money goes up the sawdust chute.
If the blade is done right, you have all the teeth tracking and zero tooth
marks on the plank. Well, that was the goal, anyway.

Just did a search and found they are still available, as is the insertion
tool...
http://www.simondsint.com/circularsaws/Pages/Items/08999F.aspx



Yes, that is the sort of thing that we used as well. Our blade was 
smaller - I think about 48 inches.


I cannot put the sharpening and setting on my resume. My father always 
did it. I sometimes watched but he was very particular about it as he 
was not wanting the blade to throw teeth at him. I remember him cleaning 
the blade and oiling the saw blade before using the tool to sort of roll 
the insert and the new tooth into the gullet of the blade.


One of the local fellows who ran a marina for most of his life had a 
desire to have a saw mill and bought a portable unit in his retirement 
years. The first time that he changed the teeth, he did not do a good 
job of doing so and it threw a number of teeth at him. None hit him, 
thank fully but it sure scared him.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: From cow poop to nat. gas

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Fertilizer.
-
Max
Charleston SC



> On 21/08/2019 2:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > SO what's a better thing to do with cow manure?
> >
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] w123 sun visor panel recovering

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

The sun visors are a bit trickier. I was talking about the panel that the
visors mount on.

The Turkish place Dan got his finny dash from also makes door cards, sun
visors and steering wheels for 123 etc fyi. Those are probably a better bet
than the many used sun visor options on Ebay fyi, for the early version
with no vanity lights anyway.

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 9:55 AM Dwight Giles  wrote:

> Karl,
> I wish I did as the driver's side one in my 82 is ripped/open  at the
> seam. My interior is black but I have never found one in that color. I did
> find one in dark blue but it needs the mechanism replaced and I think you
> have to cut the vinyl to do that. Now that I think i of it I might have a
> pair of palomino ones. Are the sedans and coupes the same? Let me look in a
> day or two into my stash of 123 parts.
>
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 2005 E320 4matic
> Wickford RI
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 6:37 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Anybody ever successfully reattach the vinyl to the panel? Mine has come
>> loose around the edges now. Before I pull the panel and mirrors out, I
>> would like to have a plan. The vinyl itself is nice but I suspect it may
>> have shrunk. I can easily vacuum bag it into place, if that is the proper
>> technique.
>>
>> Otherwise, who sells the raw vinyl in the proper color of palomino? I will
>> just use the old one as a pattern and cut it oversize.
>>
>> Thinking the 3m high tack spray adhesive or some other gnarly stuff I have
>> in the garage to hold it in place.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 17, 2019, 2:11 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> > -- Forwarded message -
>> > From: 
>> > Date: Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 2:51 PM
>> > Subject: 1979 Mercedes 450 SEL Motor
>> > To: 
>> >
>> >
>> > fred4s...@gmail.com forwarded you this from craigslist:
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>> >
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>> > <
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Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Yes, the teeth are replaceable, takes a special tool and practice to set
the new or old teeth so they run to make a clean cut with the correct tooth
pitch and sequence. Then, after sharpening each tooth, you have to set them
all to the same height so the saw cuts correctly. On an 80 inch blade,
you'll want to pack lunch. It takes a while, and if you are cutting old
growth hardwood with high dollar value, you want cuts to be clean, clear,
straight, and near perfect, or your money goes up the sawdust chute.
If the blade is done right, you have all the teeth tracking and zero tooth
marks on the plank. Well, that was the goal, anyway.

Just did a search and found they are still available, as is the insertion
tool...
http://www.simondsint.com/circularsaws/Pages/Items/08999F.aspx

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:02 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On 21/08/2019 1:16 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > I think I may be one of the few left that still know how to sharpen and
> set
> > the teeth in a round blade mill... I'll have to add a line in my CV to
> > include that.. ha..
> >
> Were they replaceable teeth?
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Re: [MBZ] OT: From cow poop to nat. gas

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

In response to Meade complaining that this is from the Third World and
therefore beneath us...

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 3:39 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> ???
>
> On 21/08/2019 2:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > SO what's a better thing to do with cow manure?
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 3:28 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I think you nailed it Randy, most of the "solutions" to the perceived
> >> "problem" are from the third world.  Seems to be the direction we are
> being
> >> forced into.
> >>
> >> Ayn Rand's "Anthem" comes to mind.
> >> -
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> >> Charleston SC
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: From cow poop to nat. gas

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

???

On 21/08/2019 2:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

SO what's a better thing to do with cow manure?

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 3:28 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I think you nailed it Randy, most of the "solutions" to the perceived
"problem" are from the third world.  Seems to be the direction we are being
forced into.

Ayn Rand's "Anthem" comes to mind.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: From cow poop to nat. gas

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I recall reading an article in, I think, National Geographic, a number 
of years ago about bio-digesters in remote areas in places like India. I 
thought it a great idea and wondered why we don't do things like that 
here. It seemed a good solution to a number of problems. Essentially, 
dump all of the waste of whatever nature into a big underground tank and 
let it ferment and capture the gas that it produced. I am sure there are 
some potential issues that would need to be sorted out for safety and we 
might not want such in the back yards of every urban home, but the idea 
certainly seemed to have merit for folks on more rural properties with 
some room to do it. There was talk, a number of years ago, about 
collecting the methane produced by the local landfill, but it never 
happened.




On 21/08/2019 2:27 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

I think you nailed it Randy, most of the "solutions" to the perceived
"problem" are from the third world.  Seems to be the direction we are being
forced into.

Ayn Rand's "Anthem" comes to mind.
-
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Charleston SC



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Re: [MBZ] OT: From cow poop to nat. gas

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

SO what's a better thing to do with cow manure?

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 3:28 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I think you nailed it Randy, most of the "solutions" to the perceived
> "problem" are from the third world.  Seems to be the direction we are being
> forced into.
>
> Ayn Rand's "Anthem" comes to mind.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 3:06 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Not exactly new. 3rd world countries have been using bio-digesters for a
> > long time to make methane to heat with and cook with etc.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: From cow poop to nat. gas

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I think you nailed it Randy, most of the "solutions" to the perceived
"problem" are from the third world.  Seems to be the direction we are being
forced into.

Ayn Rand's "Anthem" comes to mind.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 3:06 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Not exactly new. 3rd world countries have been using bio-digesters for a
> long time to make methane to heat with and cook with etc.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Might be worth $3k

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Looks like Ferrari red?

On 21/08/2019 2:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Very rare and compelling color - English red.  Getting scarce.

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 2:04 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


To someone who likes these


https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/conway-1992-mercedes-benz-190e-23/6960726475.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT: From cow poop to nat. gas

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Not exactly new. 3rd world countries have been using bio-digesters for a 
long time to make methane to heat with and cook with etc.


I believe some farmers have been doing it on a bigger scale locally.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 21/08/2019 1:16 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

I think I may be one of the few left that still know how to sharpen and set
the teeth in a round blade mill... I'll have to add a line in my CV to
include that.. ha..


Were they replaceable teeth?

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Re: [MBZ] Might be worth $3k

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Very rare and compelling color - English red.  Getting scarce.

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> To someone who likes these
>
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Re: [MBZ] 280SE 3.5 cab on BAT

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Wow, $171K and climbing.

That first pic just seems off to me.  There's a couple things hanging under
the front bumper that look sloppy and unkempt, and what is going on with
the large gap between the door and the door sill?  That gap also doesn't
look very neat and I'm NOT an expert by any means, but I find it hard to
believe it left the factory with that gap.

I'd like to hear Jaime's thoughts on this car.
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew blue interior bits

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Thanks.  As luck would have it, his car has crank windows.  I need a blue
bezel for a rear PW switch...

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> August 19 at 8:32 PM
> ·
>
> parting this 83 300d and sending it to the junk yard either this weekend
> or the next. anyone want any parts? would be a shame to send these nice
> cloth blue door cards to the junk yard ;(
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/W123NA/?ref=nf_target&fref=nf
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>
>
> On 8/21/19 1:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > I lost the link - please send it to me, Rich.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:50 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The guy is probably a moron, at least that would be a good assumption
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Aug 21, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> some guy on the 123 fakebook group had some blue interior bits for a
> >> sedan, I saw a pic of a door panel, I presume there is other stuff.
> Jump
> >> on the fakebook page and check it out
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Re: [MBZ] 280SE 3.5 cab on BAT

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Yee haw

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 2:57 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Owned by Nixon's ambassador to Malta...  He's a good ol' boy.
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 1:56 PM Dimitri Seretakis 
> wrote:
>
> > Who cares about some former third world owner!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Aug 21, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > It belonged to an Ambassador to Malta!!!
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:11 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Yes I thought that red was a  'standard'  color then-so many of them
> > were.
> > >> Hasn't seem to have hurt the price?
> > >> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > >> Wickford RI
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:07 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I think red goes better with the exterior color actually.
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>
> >  On Aug 21, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> >  It was criminal to change the original interior color from dark blue
> > to
> > >>> red.
> > 
> > 
> > >>>
> > >>
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[MBZ] OT: From cow poop to nat. gas

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Manure and food scrap digester to make fuel for Vt. collegePublished:
Wednesday, August 21, 2019

Construction is underway at a Vermont dairy farm on a system that will turn
cow manure and food scraps into renewable natural gas to help Middlebury
College meet its goal of getting 100% of its energy from renewable sources
and provide extra income for the farmer.

The groundbreaking for the anaerobic digester was held yesterday at the
Goodrich Family Farm in Salisbury, Vt.

"We constantly seek innovative ways to be good stewards of the land and
practice sustainable and viable agriculture," said Chase Goodrich, who is
among the fourth generation of his family to operate their farm, which now
milks about 900 cows. "The digester will help to continue to make this
possible."

The digester, which is being constructed as a partnership of the college,
the farm, Vermont Gas Systems and Vanguard Renewables, will be the largest
of its kind in Vermont.

A statement distributed by the college said the system would process 100
tons of manure and 180 tons of organic food waste a day into renewable
natural gas.

Vanguard is now contacting local and Vermont-based food manufacturers to
find the food waste.

Middlebury College, which is working on a plan to meet all its energy needs
from renewable sources by 2028, is planning to buy the bulk of the gas that
will be produced by the digester. Once the digester is in operation, it
will supply about half the energy Middlebury uses for heating and cooling.
The college's biomass plant will produce the other 50%. Both sources
provide some of the college's electricity.

Vermont Gas has begun construction on a 5-mile pipeline to connect the farm
with its distribution network. *— Associated Press*
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Re: [MBZ] 280SE 3.5 cab on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Owned by Nixon's ambassador to Malta...  He's a good ol' boy.

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 1:56 PM Dimitri Seretakis 
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> Who cares about some former third world owner!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 21, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > It belonged to an Ambassador to Malta!!!
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:11 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes I thought that red was a  'standard'  color then-so many of them
> were.
> >> Hasn't seem to have hurt the price?
> >> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> >> Wickford RI
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:07 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I think red goes better with the exterior color actually.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On Aug 21, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  It was criminal to change the original interior color from dark blue
> to
> >>> red.
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Thanks for your interest and sharing your family saw mill history.
The family mill ran for 5 generations in the SW Missouri hardwood region.
Started out as a water wheel powered mill, why back when that was the only
power available,
Early business also included a grist mill operation to grind flour. I still
own the grist wheels, which are about 5 ft in diameter and 3 ft thick...
and no, I'm not moving them.. haha..
That mill moved to steam power, then stationary engine power, finally,
electric. While I was at home, we had 3 mills, all round blade type, a
large, a medium, and smaller one for finish work. Late in life, Dad added a
band saw mill, but he really didn't care for it..
Most of what we harvested and milled was Black Walnut, Oak, Hickory, some
old growth cedar, and some other native specialty woods like sassafras and
others.. Almost all the output went overseas to piano builders in Japan.
They paid the big bucks so were customers of choice. Some went to high
grade furniture makers...
I think I may be one of the few left that still know how to sharpen and set
the teeth in a round blade mill... I'll have to add a line in my CV to
include that.. ha..

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 10:02 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> What sort of sawmill did your family have?
>
> My father had a small mill and I worked in it as soon as I was big
> enough to do so (about 60 years ago). Initially, I set the second dog on
> the carriage and then later was the guy who picked the boards off as
> they went through the saw (tail sawyer).  My father was always the sawyer.
> We were not much of a commercial operation. It was mainly to supply my
> father with lumber he used in construction. We built docks, boathouses,
> cottages etc and he liked the natural local cedar as it was rot resistant.
> We had a planer but seldom used it. Most of what we produced in terms of
> planking and square timbers were fine in their rough sawn condition
> given what we used them for.
> We normally logged some in the winter and sawed it in the spring and
> summer as we needed it.
> We did do some pine and spruce as well but very little hardwood - a bit
> of ash- but hardwood is not all that common in NW Ontario.
>
> On 21/08/2019 11:52 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> >  From experience, I agree with Mitch on direction of file motion.
> > To hand file well, you need to have a good mental picture of the "perfect
> > cutting edge" . When you have that, your hand/file motion will follow to
> > achieve that perfect edge.
> > Leaving a file burr on the cutting edge is not good, if your file
> direction
> > and pressure is smooth and straight you will not leave a burr.
> > Do a search for youtube video postings on "how to hand file a chain saw"
> > and you will pull up several selections of some rather crusty guys who
> are
> > old school saw men who are much better at sharping chain than they are at
> > making video, but quickly you will see the skill points to do it well.
> > Then, practice makes perfect.
> > For myself, part of growing up was work in the family owned sawmill and
> > lumber operation, so being able to keep the saw sharp, miles away from
> > electric grinders was a necessary skill.
> > One tip, cut a slot in a stump that will hold the saw by the bar...
> makes a
> > solid file surface much better than trying to "free hand cut" with the
> saw
> > setting loose. In the you tube videos you will see most all use a vice to
> > hold the blade, that works also.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 211 maintenance records

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Wilton,

A couple of options, but they’re only relevant if the car was serviced at an MB 
dealer:

1.) Contact your dealer and ask for a VMI (Vehicle Master Inquiry); or,

2.) If your dealer is not forthcoming, email me your VIN and I’ll get you a 
copy.

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> On Aug 21, 2019, at 1:02 PM, Wilton Strickland via Mercedes 
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> 
> 
>How can I check maintenance records at MB Hq to find when my '07 320
> (85k miles) tranny fluid was (if ever) changed?
> 
>Wilton
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[MBZ] FAkeBuch Genjus foren

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I thought those who frequent the site would enjoy the view Uncle Tom has about 
the collective IQ of posters

https://youtu.be/Ku46HXegE6c

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[MBZ] Might be worth $3k

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

To someone who likes these

https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/conway-1992-mercedes-benz-190e-23/6960726475.html

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Re: [MBZ] 280SE 3.5 cab on BAT

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Who cares about some former third world owner!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 21, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> It belonged to an Ambassador to Malta!!!
> 
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:11 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yes I thought that red was a  'standard'  color then-so many of them were.
>> Hasn't seem to have hurt the price?
>> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:07 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I think red goes better with the exterior color actually.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Aug 21, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 It was criminal to change the original interior color from dark blue to
>>> red.
 
 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew blue interior bits

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

 ‎Mike Abbonizio
 
‎/_to_/Mercedes
 W123 (North America)
 

August 19 at 8:32 PM 
·


parting this 83 300d and sending it to the junk yard either this weekend 
or the next. anyone want any parts? would be a shame to send these nice 
cloth blue door cards to the junk yard ;(




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On 8/21/19 1:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I lost the link - please send it to me, Rich.

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:50 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


The guy is probably a moron, at least that would be a good assumption

Sent from my iPhone


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

some guy on the 123 fakebook group had some blue interior bits for a

sedan, I saw a pic of a door panel, I presume there is other stuff.  Jump
on the fakebook page and check it out

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew blue interior bits

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I lost the link - please send it to me, Rich.

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Re: [MBZ] W116 300SD motor mounts

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/FB-1232413013

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:14 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> I have new motor mounts that I want to install, but it's been too long
> since I ordered them and I've lost track of which one is left and right
> (if it matters?)
>
> Anyone know what numbers/markings to look for?
>
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Re: [MBZ] 280SE 3.5 cab on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It belonged to an Ambassador to Malta!!!

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:11 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> Yes I thought that red was a  'standard'  color then-so many of them were.
> Hasn't seem to have hurt the price?
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
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>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:07 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > I think red goes better with the exterior color actually.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> > > On Aug 21, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > It was criminal to change the original interior color from dark blue to
> > red.
> > >
> > >
> >
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[MBZ] 211 maintenance records

[Wilton Strickland via Mercedes]

How can I check maintenance records at MB Hq to find when my '07 320
(85k miles) tranny fluid was (if ever) changed?

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

What sort of sawmill did your family have?

My father had a small mill and I worked in it as soon as I was big 
enough to do so (about 60 years ago). Initially, I set the second dog on 
the carriage and then later was the guy who picked the boards off as 
they went through the saw (tail sawyer).  My father was always the sawyer.
We were not much of a commercial operation. It was mainly to supply my 
father with lumber he used in construction. We built docks, boathouses, 
cottages etc and he liked the natural local cedar as it was rot resistant.
We had a planer but seldom used it. Most of what we produced in terms of 
planking and square timbers were fine in their rough sawn condition 
given what we used them for.
We normally logged some in the winter and sawed it in the spring and 
summer as we needed it.
We did do some pine and spruce as well but very little hardwood - a bit 
of ash- but hardwood is not all that common in NW Ontario.


On 21/08/2019 11:52 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

 From experience, I agree with Mitch on direction of file motion.
To hand file well, you need to have a good mental picture of the "perfect
cutting edge" . When you have that, your hand/file motion will follow to
achieve that perfect edge.
Leaving a file burr on the cutting edge is not good, if your file direction
and pressure is smooth and straight you will not leave a burr.
Do a search for youtube video postings on "how to hand file a chain saw"
and you will pull up several selections of some rather crusty guys who are
old school saw men who are much better at sharping chain than they are at
making video, but quickly you will see the skill points to do it well.
Then, practice makes perfect.
For myself, part of growing up was work in the family owned sawmill and
lumber operation, so being able to keep the saw sharp, miles away from
electric grinders was a necessary skill.
One tip, cut a slot in a stump that will hold the saw by the bar... makes a
solid file surface much better than trying to "free hand cut" with the saw
setting loose. In the you tube videos you will see most all use a vice to
hold the blade, that works also.




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Re: [MBZ] w123 sun visor panel recovering

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Karl,
I wish I did as the driver's side one in my 82 is ripped/open  at the seam.
My interior is black but I have never found one in that color. I did find
one in dark blue but it needs the mechanism replaced and I think you have
to cut the vinyl to do that. Now that I think i of it I might have a pair
of palomino ones. Are the sedans and coupes the same? Let me look in a day
or two into my stash of 123 parts.

Dwight E. Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4matic
Wickford RI


On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 6:37 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
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> Anybody ever successfully reattach the vinyl to the panel? Mine has come
> loose around the edges now. Before I pull the panel and mirrors out, I
> would like to have a plan. The vinyl itself is nice but I suspect it may
> have shrunk. I can easily vacuum bag it into place, if that is the proper
> technique.
>
> Otherwise, who sells the raw vinyl in the proper color of palomino? I will
> just use the old one as a pattern and cut it oversize.
>
> Thinking the 3m high tack spray adhesive or some other gnarly stuff I have
> in the garage to hold it in place.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 17, 2019, 2:11 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
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> > -- Forwarded message -
> > From: 
> > Date: Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 2:51 PM
> > Subject: 1979 Mercedes 450 SEL Motor
> > To: 
> >
> >
> > fred4s...@gmail.com forwarded you this from craigslist:
> > --
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT - chain saws

[G Mann via Mercedes]

>From experience, I agree with Mitch on direction of file motion.
To hand file well, you need to have a good mental picture of the "perfect
cutting edge" . When you have that, your hand/file motion will follow to
achieve that perfect edge.
Leaving a file burr on the cutting edge is not good, if your file direction
and pressure is smooth and straight you will not leave a burr.
Do a search for youtube video postings on "how to hand file a chain saw"
and you will pull up several selections of some rather crusty guys who are
old school saw men who are much better at sharping chain than they are at
making video, but quickly you will see the skill points to do it well.
Then, practice makes perfect.
For myself, part of growing up was work in the family owned sawmill and
lumber operation, so being able to keep the saw sharp, miles away from
electric grinders was a necessary skill.
One tip, cut a slot in a stump that will hold the saw by the bar... makes a
solid file surface much better than trying to "free hand cut" with the saw
setting loose. In the you tube videos you will see most all use a vice to
hold the blade, that works also.

On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 8:09 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> There's a microscopic bent ridge of metal at the downstream edge of the
> filing motion.
> I like to have it on the trailing edge, some people like to have it on the
> leading edge hoping it'll wear off quickly, some people like you don't
> care. But I figure it's important to make every aspect possible of the
> filing action identical on the left cutters and the right cutters.
> Mitch.
>
> PS: for casual cutting, a Poulan Wild Thing, plated piston, plain cylinder
> and all, is perfectly adequate. It won't last 200 hours of actual cutting
> time, but how many seconds does it take to make a cut? But saws like that
> tend to come with too long bars for the horsepower, and make up for it by
> using a skip tooth chain. Generally speaking, a cheap skip tooth safety
> chain is slow cutting, but my Dad's ten year old WildThang does OK the few
> times I've used it.
>
>
> > On August 20, 2019 at 7:52 PM Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >
> >
> > I agree with everything Mitch wrote. Additionally a file with a guide
> can help us newbies.I'd been told that it didn't matter if you went front
> to back on the teeth or back to front. I think that's probably true as long
> as you always do it the same way...
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew blue interior bits

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

The guy is probably a moron, at least that would be a good assumption 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 21, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> some guy on the 123 fakebook group had some blue interior bits for a sedan, I 
> saw a pic of a door panel, I presume there is other stuff.  Jump on the 
> fakebook page and check it out
> 
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[MBZ] Hey Andrew blue interior bits

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

some guy on the 123 fakebook group had some blue interior bits for a 
sedan, I saw a pic of a door panel, I presume there is other stuff.  
Jump on the fakebook page and check it out


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[MBZ] W116 300SD motor mounts

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I have new motor mounts that I want to install, but it's been too long
since I ordered them and I've lost track of which one is left and right
(if it matters?)

Anyone know what numbers/markings to look for?

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] 280SE 3.5 cab on BAT

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes I thought that red was a  'standard'  color then-so many of them were.
Hasn't seem to have hurt the price?
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


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> I think red goes better with the exterior color actually.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Aug 21, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > It was criminal to change the original interior color from dark blue to
> red.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 280SE 3.5 cab on BAT

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I think red goes better with the exterior color actually.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 21, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> It was criminal to change the original interior color from dark blue to red.
> 
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[MBZ] 280SE 3.5 cab on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It was criminal to change the original interior color from dark blue to red.

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