Re: [MBZ] W123s in SoCal...or lack thereof

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

KEVIN: CONGRATS! Glad it is working out well for you.  Yes, savings in 
some areas can pay for parts and fuel.   Keep it up!



BOB:   What Craig said +1

Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote on 9/12/19 5:19 PM:

For Bob:
I hope your cancer treatment goes well. It’s good that the cancer was detected 
in the early stages!
About the disappearing W123 cars, It’s all the more reason for me to keep this 
1982 W123 240D on the road!!! I’ve ridden in it two times with two different 
drivers since the original test drive, and it’s a wonderful machine! I get what 
people have said about older classic cars having a soul. After riding in the 
2017 Honda Odyssey appliance and even the recently sold 2015 Beetle TDI 
Convertible (yes I really sold it), the W123 has a feeling and a presence that 
can’t be beat! I’m sure that the $110 monthly insurance savings “downgrading” 
from the Beetle TDI will contribute greatly to fixing it up and keeping it 
going!
Kevin in hillsboro, OR
1982 240D 191Kmi, Hildegard!





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Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

https://www.harborfreight.com/automotive/jacks-jack-stands/transmission-jacks/450-lbs-low-lift-transmission-jack-61232.html 



I have one of these. I first got one of the adapters to put on the 
floor jack but it was too tall and I could not get the vehicle high 
enough. This one goes down quite flat to start with.


Randy

Yeah, I looked at those.  Last time I looked they were around $50.   I 
was willing to pay $50-60 but not 100 plus shipping.

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Re: [MBZ] it's runs dam good

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

We went over the dam road and the dam bridge and looked at the dam boat 
lift this afternoon.


Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote on 9/12/19 2:19 PM:

What did the fish say when it swam into the wall?


"Dam!"





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Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

yeah the cheapest trans jack I could find was around $75, and That is 
more than I want to pay for what may well be a one use thing.  I thought 
HF had them for about $50, but they have raised prices to where I can 
buy one locally for less.  My guess is that HF has passed to the next 
generation, and they are greedy.  In the last year or two their prices 
are often higher than elsewhere.  It is no longer the purveyor of cheep 
chinee chit.


MG via Mercedes wrote on 9/12/19 12:19 PM:
There is an attachment that fits into most floor jack holes and allows 
you to hold and tilt the transmission. Always wanted one. That said I 
just use the floor jack and hold the transmission on balance while 
pumping the handle with my leg. It doesn't take much as the 
transmission is light.


MG

Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
I found the shift lever seal on fleabay.  It arrived first!  I 
ordered it last!   still don't know the MB part number.  MB Tampa bay 
could not find P/N. The autohaus order came in after 7-8 days.


The MB stealer websites all want very high shipping costs.   Like $18 
shipping for the $3.75 k1 spring kit.  I figgered that was 2 day air. 
not so.  Stealer parts have still not arrived.


When everything is here, I will try to assemble a list of parts and 
part numbers, and mfgr numbers for everything and post it for all y'all.


So by next week, I hope the weather breaks and we have a few dry days 
to work on the trans and get it in the car.


Anyone got tricks for how to get an A/T up into the car without a 
trans jack and without a helper?  I am thinking that rocking it 
fore/aft while slipping blocks under it is the way to go.   With a 
helper, I might be able to balance it on a floor jack while the 
helper jacks it up.


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[MBZ] Green Euro W123

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Not mine, etc.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/d/winfield-1983-mercedes-benz-300d-turbo/6977539907.html


Rick
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[MBZ] 99 E320

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I picked this up this evening. Very nice car, well taken care of. Cheap WiFi 
reader showed P0700 code for transmission. I know tranny is stuck in limp mode 
but it runs and drives well. A bit rough idle, something to do with secondary 
air injection or something I guess, there was a code for that. I seem to recall 
this is a common issue, will have to research that. I could see the real time 
idle on the WiFi OBD reader. 

Woman says it got a new TCM which didn’t cure the issue, mech said conductor 
plate. Probably is it, I’ll order a new one and get it swapped. 

Hooked up the fancy computer and once again the hand held box wouldn’t connect 
to get details though it seems to be going through the motions. Seems to be a 
power or battery voltage issue but I’m not sure. It’s acting weirdly. Will have 
to pursue that further. I wanted to see if I could clear the tranny code or get 
more details. 

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] Sharpening Auger Bits

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Randy wrote:

> http://www.leevalley.com/en/Wood/page.aspx?p=70693&cat=1,43072,43086&ap=1

I remember getting their paper catalogs - probably 30 years ago.
4 color glossy.  Nice tools!

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Re: [MBZ] 190D AC

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

A bad evaporator temp sensor is what I would have suggested.  It's there to cut 
the compressor off when the evaporator is too cold, and those are your 
symptoms.  Check to make sure the sensor is in the correct position, too.  
Don't know where it is on the W201, but on the W124 it's above the driver's 
foot, inside.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] W123s in SoCal...or lack thereof

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

The proton beam rocks. Best wishes for an uncomplicated course of treatment.

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 1:51 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Over here in Sandy Eggo checking out the proton beam therapy joint (yeah,
> I got diagnosed with early stage prostate cancer, damn it) and it’s
> alarming how few W123s one sees any more. Zero in two days. Seeing my new
> cancer buddy Gordon’s mint 1978 Olds 98, in the cool and breezy parking
> lot, made me realize the dearth of W123s.
>
> Bob R
>
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Re: [MBZ] Sharpening Auger Bits

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 18:40:01 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Sheesh Craig, this could become an expensive email!

And don't forget about their leather working tools and supplies!  :-)

Craig


> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 1:24 PM Craig via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 11:50:45 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > http://www.leevalley.com/en/Wood/page.aspx?p=70693&cat=1,43072,43086&ap=1
> >
> > Snooping around that website yielded some interesting things:
> >
> > http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,43513&p=77635
> > Green Crosshair Laser Level
> > $59.00
> >
> > http://www.leevalley.com/us/garden/page.aspx?cat=2,42191&p=77659
> > Wireless Weather Station
> > $59.00
> >
> > http://www.leevalley.com/us/home/OnlineCatalogs.aspx
> > Online Catalogs

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Re: [MBZ] W123s in SoCal...or lack thereof

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

What Craig said.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Cc: diese...@pisquared.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123s in SoCal...or lack thereof

On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 13:50:21 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

> Over here in Sandy Eggo checking out the proton beam therapy joint
> (yeah, I got diagnosed with early stage prostate cancer, damn it)

I'm sorry to hear of your problem, Bob. May they treat it effectively,
thoroughly, and quickly.


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] 190D AC

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I don’t think so but it’s possible. I would think the compressor should cycle 
though. Anyway I think I found the problem. I took everything apart to replace 
a squeaky blower motor. I had repaired some wires back behind the battery that 
were mouse damaged. I noticed the wiring to the evap temp sensor were chewed 
on. I could not tell if they were completely chewed but looked bad so I 
repaired it. I’m betting that was the problem but will know tomorrow when I 
drive it to Tulsa. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2019, at 6:41 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Isn't that a sign of not enough gas?
> 
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 2:33 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> So I replaced the manifold hose assembly, new drier, converted to 134 and
>> pulled vacuum for 1 hour before charging. AC blow great, super cold. Once
>> you are driving it blows ice cubes, literally. So after about 15-20 minutes
>> the evaporator is basically freezing up. You will start getting fog blowing
>> out the vents followed by snow, then loss of airflow. If I put it in ec
>> mode for a few minutes it thaws out then is fine again. This issue seems to
>> be the compressor is constantly running, it does not cycle off and on. The
>> PBU that was in the car had a programa rebuilt sticker and the snow flake
>> button did not turn the compressor on at all but the top button did that is
>> supposed to be for dehumify and runs compressor constantly. The snow flake
>> button is supposed to be normal mode that cycles compressor. I swapped in a
>> different PBU and the compressor kicks on with the snow flake button but
>> stays running all the time. Could this be something in the PBu? Or the
>> kooks relay? Or maybe a sensor? These 201 systems are a little different
>> from other systems MB used.
>> 
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
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> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] 190D AC

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Isn't that a sign of not enough gas?

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 2:33 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So I replaced the manifold hose assembly, new drier, converted to 134 and
> pulled vacuum for 1 hour before charging. AC blow great, super cold. Once
> you are driving it blows ice cubes, literally. So after about 15-20 minutes
> the evaporator is basically freezing up. You will start getting fog blowing
> out the vents followed by snow, then loss of airflow. If I put it in ec
> mode for a few minutes it thaws out then is fine again. This issue seems to
> be the compressor is constantly running, it does not cycle off and on. The
> PBU that was in the car had a programa rebuilt sticker and the snow flake
> button did not turn the compressor on at all but the top button did that is
> supposed to be for dehumify and runs compressor constantly. The snow flake
> button is supposed to be normal mode that cycles compressor. I swapped in a
> different PBU and the compressor kicks on with the snow flake button but
> stays running all the time. Could this be something in the PBu? Or the
> kooks relay? Or maybe a sensor? These 201 systems are a little different
> from other systems MB used.
>
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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Sharpening Auger Bits

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Sheesh Craig, this could become an expensive email!

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 1:24 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 11:50:45 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> >
> http://www.leevalley.com/en/Wood/page.aspx?p=70693&cat=1,43072,43086&ap=1
>
> Snooping around that website yielded some interesting things:
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,43513&p=77635
> Green Crosshair Laser Level
> $59.00
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/us/garden/page.aspx?cat=2,42191&p=77659
> Wireless Weather Station
> $59.00
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/us/home/OnlineCatalogs.aspx
> Online Catalogs
>
>
> They are a Canadian company (as one would expect from Randy), but they
> also have U.S. phone numbers and mailing address.
>
> Thanks, Randy!
>
>
> Craig
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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] W123s in SoCal...or lack thereof

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

For Bob:
I hope your cancer treatment goes well. It’s good that the cancer was detected 
in the early stages!
About the disappearing W123 cars, It’s all the more reason for me to keep this 
1982 W123 240D on the road!!! I’ve ridden in it two times with two different 
drivers since the original test drive, and it’s a wonderful machine! I get what 
people have said about older classic cars having a soul. After riding in the 
2017 Honda Odyssey appliance and even the recently sold 2015 Beetle TDI 
Convertible (yes I really sold it), the W123 has a feeling and a presence that 
can’t be beat! I’m sure that the $110 monthly insurance savings “downgrading” 
from the Beetle TDI will contribute greatly to fixing it up and keeping it 
going!
Kevin in hillsboro, OR
1982 240D 191Kmi, Hildegard! 

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> On Sep 12, 2019, at 2:18 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The few, the proud. Running two wagons now.
> 
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 1:51 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Over here in Sandy Eggo checking out the proton beam therapy joint (yeah,
>> I got diagnosed with early stage prostate cancer, damn it) and it’s
>> alarming how few W123s one sees any more. Zero in two days. Seeing my new
>> cancer buddy Gordon’s mint 1978 Olds 98, in the cool and breezy parking
>> lot, made me realize the dearth of W123s.
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123s in SoCal...or lack thereof

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Weird, theres usually several of them around Burbank...

On Thursday, September 12, 2019, 4:51:11 PM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Over here in Sandy Eggo checking out the proton beam therapy joint (yeah, I 
got diagnosed with early stage prostate cancer, damn it) and it’s alarming how 
few W123s one sees any more. Zero in two days. Seeing my new cancer buddy 
Gordon’s mint 1978 Olds 98, in the cool and breezy parking lot, made me realize 
the dearth of W123s.

Bob R


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Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 12/09/2019 10:51 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
I found the shift lever seal on fleabay.  It arrived first!  I ordered 
it last!   still don't know the MB part number.  MB Tampa bay could 
not find P/N. The autohaus order came in after 7-8 days.


The MB stealer websites all want very high shipping costs.   Like $18 
shipping for the $3.75 k1 spring kit.  I figgered that was 2 day air. 
not so.  Stealer parts have still not arrived.


When everything is here, I will try to assemble a list of parts and 
part numbers, and mfgr numbers for everything and post it for all y'all.


So by next week, I hope the weather breaks and we have a few dry days 
to work on the trans and get it in the car.


Anyone got tricks for how to get an A/T up into the car without a 
trans jack and without a helper?  I am thinking that rocking it 
fore/aft while slipping blocks under it is the way to go.   With a 
helper, I might be able to balance it on a floor jack while the helper 
jacks it up.


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https://www.harborfreight.com/automotive/jacks-jack-stands/transmission-jacks/450-lbs-low-lift-transmission-jack-61232.html

I have one of these. I first got one of the adapters to put on the floor 
jack but it was too tall and I could not get the vehicle high enough. 
This one goes down quite flat to start with.


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] W123s in SoCal...or lack thereof

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

The few, the proud. Running two wagons now.

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 1:51 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Over here in Sandy Eggo checking out the proton beam therapy joint (yeah,
> I got diagnosed with early stage prostate cancer, damn it) and it’s
> alarming how few W123s one sees any more. Zero in two days. Seeing my new
> cancer buddy Gordon’s mint 1978 Olds 98, in the cool and breezy parking
> lot, made me realize the dearth of W123s.
>
> Bob R
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] W123s in SoCal...or lack thereof

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 13:50:21 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Over here in Sandy Eggo checking out the proton beam therapy joint
> (yeah, I got diagnosed with early stage prostate cancer, damn it)

I'm sorry to hear of your problem, Bob. May they treat it effectively,
thoroughly, and quickly.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] FB 123 group CD in Wickford RI

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I have wondered,about the color myself. Will check paint code when hood is
up at the Q.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 2:55 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Looks like orient red.  Unusual and attractive for a CD.
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 2:50 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Here you go.
> > Screenshot attached.
> >
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Sent: September 12, 2019 12:49 PM
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Cc: dwight.gi...@gmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] FB 123 group CD in Wickford RI
> >
> > Link won't work. What color is it? Only 2 CDs in wickford AFAIK
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
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Re: [MBZ] FB 123 group CD in Wickford RI

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes thanks. My MB buddy  & neighbor. Fred Moir actually located it for us.
Will be,at Q on Sat.





Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 1:20 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Spotted a good looking girl in Wickford, RI!
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157494565493688&set=gm.2415149125218479&type=3&theater&ifg=1
>
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[MBZ] W123s in SoCal...or lack thereof

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Over here in Sandy Eggo checking out the proton beam therapy joint (yeah, I got 
diagnosed with early stage prostate cancer, damn it) and it’s alarming how few 
W123s one sees any more. Zero in two days. Seeing my new cancer buddy Gordon’s 
mint 1978 Olds 98, in the cool and breezy parking lot, made me realize the 
dearth of W123s.

Bob R


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Re: [MBZ] ADSIT Redeems Themselves

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 14:26:27 -0500 Dan--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> That’s what they were known for - pulling outrageous stuff like this,
> then fighting tooth and nail over making things right - or not.
> 
> I seem to recall some really outrageous stories about wheels and
> engines, too. I wonder what their BBB profile looks like?

Probably has been bought clean.


Craig

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[MBZ] 190D AC

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

So I replaced the manifold hose assembly, new drier, converted to 134 and 
pulled vacuum for 1 hour before charging. AC blow great, super cold. Once you 
are driving it blows ice cubes, literally. So after about 15-20 minutes the 
evaporator is basically freezing up. You will start getting fog blowing out the 
vents followed by snow, then loss of airflow. If I put it in ec mode for a few 
minutes it thaws out then is fine again. This issue seems to be the compressor 
is constantly running, it does not cycle off and on. The PBU that was in the 
car had a programa rebuilt sticker and the snow flake button did not turn the 
compressor on at all but the top button did that is supposed to be for dehumify 
and runs compressor constantly. The snow flake button is supposed to be normal 
mode that cycles compressor. I swapped in a different PBU and the compressor 
kicks on with the snow flake button but stays running all the time. Could this 
be something in the PBu? Or the kooks relay? Or maybe a sensor? These 201 
systems are a little different from other systems MB used. 

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Re: [MBZ] ADSIT Redeems Themselves

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

That’s what they were known for - pulling outrageous stuff like this, then 
fighting tooth and nail over making things right - or not.

I seem to recall some really outrageous stories about wheels and engines, too. 
I wonder what their BBB profile looks like?

-D

> On Sep 12, 2019, at 11:27 AM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have had one CRAZY unfortunate transaction with them, wherein I ordered 
> OUTDOOR covers for my W108 and C107. The 108 cover was a dusty, ancient, 
> cotton cover clearly designed (and MARKED!) for "indoor use only". Based on 
> the dust ON and IN the box, it had been sitting on a shelf for decades 
> somewhere. The 107 cover was at least an outdoor cover, but not very good 
> quality. It took plenty of interaction with them, and some threats, to get 
> credit for the 108 cover. He would NOT budge on the 107 cover, saying it was 
> "the latest available".
> 
> I will NOT be rushing back for more!
> 
> I generally support the underdog, even if it's a little more expensive. But 
> there's no excuse for fraud and rude behaviour.
> 
> D.
> 
> 
>> On 9/12/19, MG wrote:
>> 
>> Maybe they didn't learn that much.
>> 
>> A couple of weeks ago I bought on Ebay what was 
>> advertised to be a new Hella lens. The picture 
>> showed a Hella lens with the Hella logo in the 
>> glass so I paid and it came. When I opened the 
>> package I found a Mercedes box that was opened and 
>> a new aftermarket lens with no brand name or 
>> symbol of any kind on it so it wasn't Bosch, 
>> Mercedes or Hella.
>> 
>> They did refund my money after I sent a complaint 
>> and picture of the lens through Ebay.
>> 
>> So how much did they learn? Why post a picture of 
>> a Hella lens and then send an aftermarket part?
>> 
>> Maybe they are on the way out of business and just 
>> trying to get rid of everything they have. I know 
>> I won't be ordering from them again.
>> 
>> MG
>> 
>> OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Amazing - perhaps they did learn from their mistakes in the past??? They
>>> must have, they are still in business!
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Sharpening Auger Bits

[David Bruckmann via Mercedes]

Yay Canada, yay Lee Valley! Going into one of their stores is a great way to 
spend AN ENTIRE DAY!

At 6:24 PM + 9/12/19, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:
>They are a Canadian company (as one would expect from Randy), but they
>also have U.S. phone numbers and mailing address.


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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT: American Kobe Beef!

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Bernie’s Fine Meats in my former town of Port Washington, WI. You walk in, 
point to what you want, it goes over to the meat saw to be cut to your choice 
of thickness. Summer sausage to die for. Smoked chicken. Always had fresh 
turkey for Thanksgiving, and a quarter beef on the freezer from them. Excellent 
homemade brats and other sausages of your choosing.

John and Jan, the former proprietors, were great people. Forget your checkbook 
or card? The little green ticket got pinned on the wall next to the register 
and you settled up next time you were there.

I pay handsomely to get their yummy stuff shipped overnight via FedEx to 
Florida. It’s worth every penny. To this day my boys will ask, “When’s the next 
box from John and Jan’s coming?”

Which reminds me - I need to place an order...

-D

> On Sep 11, 2019, at 8:11 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> True artisans are hard to come by.
> 
> Speaking of artisans, I found a guy who will sharpen auger bits for a brace.  
>  Took all but one of them in, andtook in my ships augers and a couple big 
> twist drills.  I am hoping he is a true artisan.   I've not found the files 
> to buy to sharpen augers, so I am glad to have someone to sharpen them.
> 
> 
> Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote on 9/11/19 12:57 PM:
>> ...
>> I went in I told him I wanted a 1# steak that was 3" thick. He asked how 
>> done I was going to make it and I said "medium rare." He said "Your wife 
>> will want hers medium right?" I nodded, "I'll cut hers 2.5" thick, cook them 
>> the same time, hers will be medium."Dude was an artist. Sadly he's gone to 
>> the big shop in the sky, the guy who took over was a "meat cutter" and the 
>> shop closed within 6 months.
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] it's runs dam good

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

What did the fish say when it swam into the wall?


"Dam!"

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 9:45 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2167806926852403/
>
> 1998 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Sedan 4D
> Savannah, GA· about a day ago
> <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2167806926852403/?ref=product_details>·
>
>
> $1,000
>
>   * About This Vehicle
>   *
>
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Driven 200,000 miles
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Automatic transmission
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: Grey
>   *
>   o
>
>   o 17.0 MPG city · 24.0 MPG highway · 20.0 MPG combined
>
>   * Typical Features
>   *
>
>   *
> Leather Seats
>   *
> Moon Roof
>   *
> Alloy Wheels
>   *
> ABS
>   *
>
> Seller's Description
>
> It does need some work done and it's runs dam good 1000 or obo if it
> still up it still up for sal
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] FB 123 group CD in Wickford RI

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Looks like orient red.  Unusual and attractive for a CD.

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 2:50 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Here you go.
> Screenshot attached.
>
>
> Rick
>
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: September 12, 2019 12:49 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: dwight.gi...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] FB 123 group CD in Wickford RI
>
> Link won't work. What color is it? Only 2 CDs in wickford AFAIK
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
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[MBZ] '59 Volvo on BAT- a fast appreciating classic

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I owned one of these in '69 when I lived in St. Paul, MN.  Cruised very
fast all day long and was super comfortable due to the advanced lumbar
support in the driver's seat.  IIRC it cost me $389 and I sold it for $325
to the first person to see it.  I shoulda  stuck it in a barn instead.
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Re: [MBZ] Sharpening Auger Bits

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 11:50:45 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
 wrote:

> http://www.leevalley.com/en/Wood/page.aspx?p=70693&cat=1,43072,43086&ap=1

Snooping around that website yielded some interesting things:

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,43513&p=77635
Green Crosshair Laser Level
$59.00

http://www.leevalley.com/us/garden/page.aspx?cat=2,42191&p=77659
Wireless Weather Station
$59.00

http://www.leevalley.com/us/home/OnlineCatalogs.aspx
Online Catalogs


They are a Canadian company (as one would expect from Randy), but they
also have U.S. phone numbers and mailing address.

Thanks, Randy!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] ADSIT Redeems Themselves

[G Mann via Mercedes]

"Trust everybody, but always cut the cards."
Wise words for wise men...

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 9:41 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That guy that bought out Rusty must have worked for them
>
> --FT
>
> On 9/12/19 12:27 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes wrote:
> > I have had one CRAZY unfortunate transaction with them, wherein I
> ordered OUTDOOR covers for my W108 and C107. The 108 cover was a dusty,
> ancient, cotton cover clearly designed (and MARKED!) for "indoor use only".
> Based on the dust ON and IN the box, it had been sitting on a shelf for
> decades somewhere. The 107 cover was at least an outdoor cover, but not
> very good quality. It took plenty of interaction with them, and some
> threats, to get credit for the 108 cover. He would NOT budge on the 107
> cover, saying it was "the latest available".
> >
> > I will NOT be rushing back for more!
> >
> > I generally support the underdog, even if it's a little more expensive.
> But there's no excuse for fraud and rude behaviour.
> >
> > D.
> >
> >
> > On 9/12/19, MG wrote:
> >> Maybe they didn't learn that much.
> >>
> >> A couple of weeks ago I bought on Ebay what was
> >> advertised to be a new Hella lens. The picture
> >> showed a Hella lens with the Hella logo in the
> >> glass so I paid and it came. When I opened the
> >> package I found a Mercedes box that was opened and
> >> a new aftermarket lens with no brand name or
> >> symbol of any kind on it so it wasn't Bosch,
> >> Mercedes or Hella.
> >>
> >> They did refund my money after I sent a complaint
> >> and picture of the lens through Ebay.
> >>
> >> So how much did they learn? Why post a picture of
> >> a Hella lens and then send an aftermarket part?
> >>
> >> Maybe they are on the way out of business and just
> >> trying to get rid of everything they have. I know
> >> I won't be ordering from them again.
> >>
> >> MG
> >>
> >> OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Amazing - perhaps they did learn from their mistakes in the past???
> They
> >>> must have, they are still in business!
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] FB 123 group CD in Wickford RI

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Link won't work. What color is it? Only 2 CDs in wickford AFAIK

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 1:20 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Spotted a good looking girl in Wickford, RI!
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157494565493688&set=gm.2415149125218479&type=3&theater&ifg=1
>
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[MBZ] FB 123 group CD in Wickford RI

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Spotted a good looking girl in Wickford, RI!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157494565493688&set=gm.2415149125218479&type=3&theater&ifg=1

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Re: [MBZ] 722.3 trans update

[MG via Mercedes]

There is an attachment that fits into most floor 
jack holes and allows you to hold and tilt the 
transmission. Always wanted one. That said I just 
use the floor jack and hold the transmission on 
balance while pumping the handle with my leg. It 
doesn't take much as the transmission is light.


MG

Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
I found the shift lever seal on fleabay.  It arrived first!  I ordered 
it last!   still don't know the MB part number.  MB Tampa bay could not 
find P/N. The autohaus order came in after 7-8 days.


The MB stealer websites all want very high shipping costs.   Like $18 
shipping for the $3.75 k1 spring kit.  I figgered that was 2 day air. 
not so.  Stealer parts have still not arrived.


When everything is here, I will try to assemble a list of parts and part 
numbers, and mfgr numbers for everything and post it for all y'all.


So by next week, I hope the weather breaks and we have a few dry days to 
work on the trans and get it in the car.


Anyone got tricks for how to get an A/T up into the car without a trans 
jack and without a helper?  I am thinking that rocking it fore/aft while 
slipping blocks under it is the way to go.   With a helper, I might be 
able to balance it on a floor jack while the helper jacks it up.


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[MBZ] Sharpening Auger Bits

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

http://www.leevalley.com/en/Wood/page.aspx?p=70693&cat=1,43072,43086&ap=1

Randy

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019, 9:12 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


True artisans are hard to come by.

Speaking of artisans, I found a guy who will sharpen auger bits for a
brace.   Took all but one of them in, andtook in my ships augers and a
couple big twist drills.  I am hoping he is a true artisan.   I've not
found the files to buy to sharpen augers, so I am glad to have someone
to sharpen them.





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[MBZ] it's runs dam good

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2167806926852403/

1998 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Sedan 4D
Savannah, GA· about a day ago 
· 


$1,000

 * About This Vehicle
 *

 *
 o

 o Driven 200,000 miles
 *
 o

 o Automatic transmission
 *
 o

 o Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: Grey
 *
 o

 o 17.0 MPG city · 24.0 MPG highway · 20.0 MPG combined

 * Typical Features
 *

 *
   Leather Seats
 *
   Moon Roof
 *
   Alloy Wheels
 *
   ABS
 *

Seller's Description

It does need some work done and it's runs dam good 1000 or obo if it 
still up it still up for sal



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Re: [MBZ] ADSIT Redeems Themselves

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That guy that bought out Rusty must have worked for them

--FT

On 9/12/19 12:27 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes wrote:

I have had one CRAZY unfortunate transaction with them, wherein I ordered OUTDOOR covers for my 
W108 and C107. The 108 cover was a dusty, ancient, cotton cover clearly designed (and MARKED!) for 
"indoor use only". Based on the dust ON and IN the box, it had been sitting on a shelf 
for decades somewhere. The 107 cover was at least an outdoor cover, but not very good quality. It 
took plenty of interaction with them, and some threats, to get credit for the 108 cover. He would 
NOT budge on the 107 cover, saying it was "the latest available".

I will NOT be rushing back for more!

I generally support the underdog, even if it's a little more expensive. But 
there's no excuse for fraud and rude behaviour.

D.


On 9/12/19, MG wrote:

Maybe they didn't learn that much.

A couple of weeks ago I bought on Ebay what was
advertised to be a new Hella lens. The picture
showed a Hella lens with the Hella logo in the
glass so I paid and it came. When I opened the
package I found a Mercedes box that was opened and
a new aftermarket lens with no brand name or
symbol of any kind on it so it wasn't Bosch,
Mercedes or Hella.

They did refund my money after I sent a complaint
and picture of the lens through Ebay.

So how much did they learn? Why post a picture of
a Hella lens and then send an aftermarket part?

Maybe they are on the way out of business and just
trying to get rid of everything they have. I know
I won't be ordering from them again.

MG

OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Amazing - perhaps they did learn from their mistakes in the past??? They
must have, they are still in business!


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Re: [MBZ] ADSIT Redeems Themselves

[David Bruckmann via Mercedes]

I have had one CRAZY unfortunate transaction with them, wherein I ordered 
OUTDOOR covers for my W108 and C107. The 108 cover was a dusty, ancient, cotton 
cover clearly designed (and MARKED!) for "indoor use only". Based on the dust 
ON and IN the box, it had been sitting on a shelf for decades somewhere. The 
107 cover was at least an outdoor cover, but not very good quality. It took 
plenty of interaction with them, and some threats, to get credit for the 108 
cover. He would NOT budge on the 107 cover, saying it was "the latest 
available".

I will NOT be rushing back for more!

I generally support the underdog, even if it's a little more expensive. But 
there's no excuse for fraud and rude behaviour.

D.


On 9/12/19, MG wrote:
>
>Maybe they didn't learn that much.
>
>A couple of weeks ago I bought on Ebay what was 
>advertised to be a new Hella lens. The picture 
>showed a Hella lens with the Hella logo in the 
>glass so I paid and it came. When I opened the 
>package I found a Mercedes box that was opened and 
>a new aftermarket lens with no brand name or 
>symbol of any kind on it so it wasn't Bosch, 
>Mercedes or Hella.
>
>They did refund my money after I sent a complaint 
>and picture of the lens through Ebay.
>
>So how much did they learn? Why post a picture of 
>a Hella lens and then send an aftermarket part?
>
>Maybe they are on the way out of business and just 
>trying to get rid of everything they have. I know 
>I won't be ordering from them again.
>
>MG
>
>OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>> Amazing - perhaps they did learn from their mistakes in the past??? They
>> must have, they are still in business!
>>

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[MBZ] OT Happy palindrome week

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

every date from 9 10 19 to 9 19 19 is a palindrome.  Try it!

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[MBZ] 722.3 trans update

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I found the shift lever seal on fleabay.  It arrived first!  I ordered 
it last!   still don't know the MB part number.  MB Tampa bay could not 
find P/N. The autohaus order came in after 7-8 days.


The MB stealer websites all want very high shipping costs.   Like $18 
shipping for the $3.75 k1 spring kit.  I figgered that was 2 day air. 
not so.  Stealer parts have still not arrived.


When everything is here, I will try to assemble a list of parts and part 
numbers, and mfgr numbers for everything and post it for all y'all.


So by next week, I hope the weather breaks and we have a few dry days to 
work on the trans and get it in the car.


Anyone got tricks for how to get an A/T up into the car without a trans 
jack and without a helper?  I am thinking that rocking it fore/aft while 
slipping blocks under it is the way to go.   With a helper, I might be 
able to balance it on a floor jack while the helper jacks it up.


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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT: American Kobe Beef!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

This is cheaper than buying new ones? I ask because shoe repair is almost
as expensive as buying a new pair of shoes.

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019, 9:12 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> True artisans are hard to come by.
>
> Speaking of artisans, I found a guy who will sharpen auger bits for a
> brace.   Took all but one of them in, andtook in my ships augers and a
> couple big twist drills.  I am hoping he is a true artisan.   I've not
> found the files to buy to sharpen augers, so I am glad to have someone
> to sharpen them.
>
>
> Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote on 9/11/19 12:57 PM:
> > ...
> > I went in I told him I wanted a 1# steak that was 3" thick. He asked how
> done I was going to make it and I said "medium rare." He said "Your wife
> will want hers medium right?" I nodded, "I'll cut hers 2.5" thick, cook
> them the same time, hers will be medium."Dude was an artist. Sadly he's
> gone to the big shop in the sky, the guy who took over was a "meat cutter"
> and the shop closed within 6 months.
> > -Curt
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] ADSIT Redeems Themselves

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 12/09/2019 8:12 AM, MG via Mercedes wrote:

Maybe they didn't learn that much.

A couple of weeks ago I bought on Ebay what was advertised to be a new 
Hella lens. The picture showed a Hella lens with the Hella logo in the 
glass so I paid and it came. When I opened the package I found a 
Mercedes box that was opened and a new aftermarket lens with no brand 
name or symbol of any kind on it so it wasn't Bosch, Mercedes or Hella.


They did refund my money after I sent a complaint and picture of the 
lens through Ebay.


So how much did they learn? Why post a picture of a Hella lens and 
then send an aftermarket part?


Maybe they are on the way out of business and just trying to get rid 
of everything they have. I know I won't be ordering from them again.


MG



Bait and switch. Most folks would not know the difference and likely 
wouldn't care anyway so they get away with it.


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] ADSIT Redeems Themselves

[MG via Mercedes]

Maybe they didn't learn that much.

A couple of weeks ago I bought on Ebay what was 
advertised to be a new Hella lens. The picture 
showed a Hella lens with the Hella logo in the 
glass so I paid and it came. When I opened the 
package I found a Mercedes box that was opened and 
a new aftermarket lens with no brand name or 
symbol of any kind on it so it wasn't Bosch, 
Mercedes or Hella.


They did refund my money after I sent a complaint 
and picture of the lens through Ebay.


So how much did they learn? Why post a picture of 
a Hella lens and then send an aftermarket part?


Maybe they are on the way out of business and just 
trying to get rid of everything they have. I know 
I won't be ordering from them again.


MG

OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Amazing - perhaps they did learn from their mistakes in the past??? They
must have, they are still in business!
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[MBZ] New Mercedes (Spoiler) Matchbox - photo attached

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Finally purchased a new Mercedes. 



Michael E. Esh

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Re: [MBZ] ADSIT Redeems Themselves

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Understood. Their reputation goes back a long, long way.

Maybe the ability to deal with them via electronic means versus person to 
person is the key?

-D


> On Sep 11, 2019, at 7:58 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, that's one data point.  They are worth looking at, but I'm still leery.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] ADSIT Redeems Themselves

[ROGER HALE via Mercedes]

Well, I'll give you another data point from years ago.  Back around 2000, I 
needed a glow plug relay for my 1980 300SD.  MB wanted my wallet and first born 
so nothing there.  I tried a used one, but as the SD was still in change, the 
prior years didn't work correctly.  Finally, I found one for the 1980 at ADSIT. 
 The price was more than a used one on eBay, but far less than a new MB unit.  
I got it, installed it and almost 20 years later it's still on the car working 
properly.  I had no problems with ADSIT, a smooth transaction.  There's an old 
expression, "you'll get more with an ounce of sugar than a pound of salt".  
Business is business, try the sugar first.

Best wishes,

Roger

Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com
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