Re: [MBZ] 93 (140) Diesel for Sale in Dallas

2019-09-30 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
It was not this car was it?

https://dallas.craigslist.org/sdf/cto/d/cleburne-1994-mercedes-benz-s350-turbo/6971487134.html

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> On Sep 30, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The guy I bought the 123 from also had an 87 300SDL.  I wish I would have 
> known that.  But, he sold it already for $1500.  He also has a 93 (140 
> chassis) diesel.   That’s a rodbender, right?   He said the previous owner 
> garaged it since 2003.  129K.  Transmission was rebuilt two years ago.  Has 
> new tires and AMG wheels.  I’m assuming it has not had the replacement 
> engine.   He wants $3K but says he is open to offers.   I’m staying away from 
> it.  But, for anyone else that has an engine, this could be decent. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Reasonably Price 1985 300CD Turbo Diesel

2019-09-30 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes. I don't  have,a garage for the CD i already javhave  . I bet book
is,14/15K on that.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 9:03 PM Curt Raymond  wrote:

> If I had a garage for it I'd consider consider buying it and driving it
> back. It'd be a great adventure...
>
> -Curt
>
> On Monday, September 30, 2019, 8:06:40 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
> I wish it were,Salem MA. I would be on it.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 6:08 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes <
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>
> > What do you guys think of this one?
> > Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> > 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
> >
> >
> >
> https://salem.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-benedict-1985-mercedes-benz-300cd/6989321799.html
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Re: [MBZ] Reasonably Price 1985 300CD Turbo Diesel

2019-09-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 If I had a garage for it I'd consider consider buying it and driving it back. 
It'd be a great adventure...
-Curt

On Monday, September 30, 2019, 8:06:40 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I wish it were,Salem MA. I would be on it.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> What do you guys think of this one?
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
>
>
> https://salem.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-benedict-1985-mercedes-benz-300cd/6989321799.html
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Re: [MBZ] Reasonably Price 1985 300CD Turbo Diesel

2019-09-30 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I wish it were,Salem MA. I would be on it.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> What do you guys think of this one?
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
>
>
> https://salem.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-benedict-1985-mercedes-benz-300cd/6989321799.html
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Re: [MBZ] Reasonably Price 1985 300CD Turbo Diesel

2019-09-30 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Unless is a basket case very cheap for a,300CD.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> What do you guys think of this one?
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
>
>
> https://salem.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-benedict-1985-mercedes-benz-300cd/6989321799.html
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Re: [MBZ] Keys

2019-09-30 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Curt' want to use my 300CD for a 123 object lesson on wafers?

Dwight Giles Jr.
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>  123 locks are simplicity itself to work on. The "right" way would be to
> buy a selection of lock wafers to build the correct lock.The expedient way
> is to use the wafers you have and a small file to make them work. IIRC
> theres like 8 wafers in there, 123s aren't exactly high profile targets for
> theft, if you had 4 wafers that'd be plenty to dissuade normal thieves.
> Actually a couple junkyard locks would provide you with plenty of wafers
> to mix and match.
>
> I kind of wish I still had a 123, it'd be fun to make a video.
> -Curt
>
> On Monday, September 30, 2019, 11:33:04 AM EDT, Rick Knoble via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  Correct. What about the door lock(s)?
>
>
> Rick
>
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: September 30, 2019 10:30 AM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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> Subject: [MBZ] Keys
>
> On this new to me 300D, the ignition key does not unlock the trunk.  It
> has the little tiny key.  I am guessing the ignition key is the valet key.
> So, if I ordered a new key based on the VIN, it should also work on the
> trunk lock, right?  BUT, if the ignition lock cylinder has been replaced
> previously then a key that I order by VIN number will not work in the
> ignition, right?
>
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Re: [MBZ] New E320 CDI Fun - NOT

2019-09-30 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 23:31:56 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

>  He sure likes to hear himself talk. His 25 minute video could be done
> in 10, maybe even 5... -Curt

Particularly odious is his saying to take out the injectors with the head
cold and with an impact wrench, then saying to take them out with the
head hot and with care ...


Craig

> On Monday, September 30, 2019, 1:18:06 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via
> Mercedes  wrote: 
>  Someone on the list thinks this guy is an idiot, but whatever.
> Here is a video that explains the problem and what to look for.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEp4GjcXy3o=14s
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Climate Control unit 123

2019-09-30 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
You have a vacuum leak somewhere 

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> On Sep 30, 2019, at 6:16 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The vent doesn’t work at all — ac or vent or defrost.  The seller installed a 
> new (reman) blower motor and claimed that the problem was in the CCU.  Anyone 
> have one to sell?  I found some on eBay.  Feel free to reply here or message 
> me directly at: 
> 
> donald.sn...@fedex.com
> 
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Re: [MBZ] New E320 CDI Fun - NOT

2019-09-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 He sure likes to hear himself talk. His 25 minute video could be done in 10, 
maybe even 5...
-Curt

On Monday, September 30, 2019, 1:18:06 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Someone on the list thinks this guy is an idiot, but whatever.
Here is a video that explains the problem and what to look for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEp4GjcXy3o=14s

Rick



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Subject: Re: [MBZ] New E320 CDI Fun - NOT

On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 12:20:39 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The success of the job really revolves around being surgically clean,
> especially for the hold down bolt. The bolt gets replaced as it’s a
> stretch bolt, but if there is any crud in the bolt bore it can cause
> the bolt to break upon tightening or punch through the bottom of the
> bore into the water jacket should there be solids or liquids
> presentbefore the bolt is threaded in.

So these injectors must be quite different than the ones on OM61x and
OM60x engines!

Where might one see a picture of them?

Do they have piezoelectric stacks like the injectors for heavy truck
engines?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Keys

2019-09-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 123 locks are simplicity itself to work on. The "right" way would be to buy a 
selection of lock wafers to build the correct lock.The expedient way is to use 
the wafers you have and a small file to make them work. IIRC theres like 8 
wafers in there, 123s aren't exactly high profile targets for theft, if you had 
4 wafers that'd be plenty to dissuade normal thieves.
Actually a couple junkyard locks would provide you with plenty of wafers to mix 
and match.

I kind of wish I still had a 123, it'd be fun to make a video.
-Curt

On Monday, September 30, 2019, 11:33:04 AM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Correct. What about the door lock(s)?


Rick

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Sent: September 30, 2019 10:30 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: dhsn...@gmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] Keys

On this new to me 300D, the ignition key does not unlock the trunk.  It has the 
little tiny key.  I am guessing the ignition key is the valet key.  So, if I 
ordered a new key based on the VIN, it should also work on the trunk lock, 
right?  BUT, if the ignition lock cylinder has been replaced previously then a 
key that I order by VIN number will not work in the ignition, right?

Donald H. Snook


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[MBZ] Climate Control unit 123

2019-09-30 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
The vent doesn’t work at all — ac or vent or defrost.  The seller installed a 
new (reman) blower motor and claimed that the problem was in the CCU.  Anyone 
have one to sell?  I found some on eBay.  Feel free to reply here or message me 
directly at: 

donald.sn...@fedex.com

Donald H. Snook


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Re: [MBZ] 123 Wheels and caps?

2019-09-30 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Yeah. I have a set of 14" bundts from my wagon. Just had them refinished.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My new to me 82 300D has much newer wheels on it. They are the 5 hole
> wheels that are pretty wide. I can’t decide if I want to put bundts on it
> or try the 240D style with wheels and hubcaps.  I’m a sucker for the
> painted caps since my first MB (71 250) had the painted caps.
>
> Anyone have wheels and caps that fit? Or a set of bundts? If they have
> good tires mounted on them that might be the best way to go.
>
> Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] New E320 CDI Fun - NOT

2019-09-30 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 14:12:17 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> This is a great video about the issue. It appears to be quite common on
> a number of common rail injection engines of this vintage, not just
> Mercedes.
> 
> And yes, Craig, the injectors are electronic piezo type.

> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEp4GjcXy3o=14s
> > 
> > Rick

Thank you, Rick, for the link.

And thank you, Dan, for the information.


Craig

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[MBZ] Reasonably Price 1985 300CD Turbo Diesel

2019-09-30 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
What do you guys think of this one?
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard

https://salem.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-benedict-1985-mercedes-benz-300cd/6989321799.html


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Re: [MBZ] Vacuum lines

2019-09-30 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
What year/model was this?   Plugged three way may be for the vacuum 
locks.   Vacuum line routing varies year to year and sometimes within 
the year..  You need the specific diagram for that vehicle.


It should never go into second at 60.   It could go into third. 
Sunvalley website has vacuum diagrams and trans tuning info for most 
Diesels, but the article is just generic for Diesels.  the 
differentiations are in the text and diagrams.


Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote on 9/30/19 3:06 PM:

Anybody have an actual picture (rather than the diagram) of the vacuum line 
routing?  I think there should be 3 lines going into the switchover valve. But, 
I have 1 or 2.  I also have a 3 way connector that only has two hoses going 
into it.

I remember something about one line that a lot of people put a golf tee in. 
But, I don’t remember which one.

My locks don’t work — and I’m not worried about that now. But, that could be a 
symptom of vacuum leaks.

  I’m wondering about the lack of power.  Either I have forgotten how slow 
these really are. Or, there is something wrong.  A few things seem odd.

Almost zero smoke with hard acceleration, some at start up. But, even with it 
floored climbing a hill, there is no smoke.

Transmission either shifts very early or the kick down isn’t responding. I was 
able to drive consistently at 75-80. I even climbed a hill at pegged it at 85 
and it was still accelerating. But, if I floored at 60, it accelerated but did 
not downshift.  Maybe that’s too high for it to go into second?


Donald H. Snook





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[MBZ] Vacuum lines

2019-09-30 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
Anybody have an actual picture (rather than the diagram) of the vacuum line 
routing?  I think there should be 3 lines going into the switchover valve. But, 
I have 1 or 2.  I also have a 3 way connector that only has two hoses going 
into it.

I remember something about one line that a lot of people put a golf tee in. 
But, I don’t remember which one. 

My locks don’t work — and I’m not worried about that now. But, that could be a 
symptom of vacuum leaks. 

 I’m wondering about the lack of power.  Either I have forgotten how slow these 
really are. Or, there is something wrong.  A few things seem odd.  

Almost zero smoke with hard acceleration, some at start up. But, even with it 
floored climbing a hill, there is no smoke. 

Transmission either shifts very early or the kick down isn’t responding. I was 
able to drive consistently at 75-80. I even climbed a hill at pegged it at 85 
and it was still accelerating. But, if I floored at 60, it accelerated but did 
not downshift.  Maybe that’s too high for it to go into second? 


Donald H. Snook


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Re: [MBZ] New E320 CDI Fun - NOT

2019-09-30 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
This is a great video about the issue. It appears to be quite common on a 
number of common rail injection engines of this vintage, not just Mercedes.

And yes, Craig, the injectors are electronic piezo type.

-D

> On Sep 30, 2019, at 1:17 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Someone on the list thinks this guy is an idiot, but whatever.
> Here is a video that explains the problem and what to look for.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEp4GjcXy3o=14s
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Craig via 
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] New E320 CDI Fun - NOT
> 
> On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 12:20:39 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> The success of the job really revolves around being surgically clean,
>> especially for the hold down bolt. The bolt gets replaced as it’s a
>> stretch bolt, but if there is any crud in the bolt bore it can cause
>> the bolt to break upon tightening or punch through the bottom of the
>> bore into the water jacket should there be solids or liquids
>> presentbefore the bolt is threaded in.
> 
> So these injectors must be quite different than the ones on OM61x and
> OM60x engines!
> 
> Where might one see a picture of them?
> 
> Do they have piezoelectric stacks like the injectors for heavy truck
> engines?
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] New E320 CDI Fun - NOT

2019-09-30 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Someone on the list thinks this guy is an idiot, but whatever.
Here is a video that explains the problem and what to look for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEp4GjcXy3o=14s

Rick



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On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 12:20:39 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The success of the job really revolves around being surgically clean,
> especially for the hold down bolt. The bolt gets replaced as it’s a
> stretch bolt, but if there is any crud in the bolt bore it can cause
> the bolt to break upon tightening or punch through the bottom of the
> bore into the water jacket should there be solids or liquids
> presentbefore the bolt is threaded in.

So these injectors must be quite different than the ones on OM61x and
OM60x engines!

Where might one see a picture of them?

Do they have piezoelectric stacks like the injectors for heavy truck
engines?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 93 (140) Diesel for Sale in Dallas

2019-09-30 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Yes that is a rod bender.  Totally agree that the SDL would have been a
better choice than the 123.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 11:31 AM Donald Snook via Mercedes <
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> The guy I bought the 123 from also had an 87 300SDL.  I wish I would have
> known that.  But, he sold it already for $1500.  He also has a 93 (140
> chassis) diesel.   That’s a rodbender, right?   He said the previous owner
> garaged it since 2003.  129K.  Transmission was rebuilt two years ago.  Has
> new tires and AMG wheels.  I’m assuming it has not had the replacement
> engine.   He wants $3K but says he is open to offers.   I’m staying away
> from it.  But, for anyone else that has an engine, this could be decent.
>
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Re: [MBZ] New E320 CDI Fun - NOT

2019-09-30 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 12:20:39 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The success of the job really revolves around being surgically clean,
> especially for the hold down bolt. The bolt gets replaced as it’s a
> stretch bolt, but if there is any crud in the bolt bore it can cause
> the bolt to break upon tightening or punch through the bottom of the
> bore into the water jacket should there be solids or liquids
> presentbefore the bolt is threaded in.

So these injectors must be quite different than the ones on OM61x and
OM60x engines!

Where might one see a picture of them?

Do they have piezoelectric stacks like the injectors for heavy truck
engines?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] New E320 CDI Fun - NOT

2019-09-30 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
That is correct, more so that I replace the seals on the injectors, the 
injectors themselves aren’t leaking - it’s the seal between the injector nozzle 
and the head, a copper washer. Parts to do the whole set are like $18.00 from 
the dealer, and it’s common enough that my dealer stocks them.

The success of the job really revolves around being surgically clean, 
especially for the hold down bolt. The bolt gets replaced as it’s a stretch 
bolt, but if there is any crud in the bolt bore it can cause the bolt to break 
upon tightening or punch through the bottom of the bore into the water jacket 
should there be solids or liquids presentbefore the bolt is threaded in.

-D

> On Sep 30, 2019, at 11:59 AM, Donald Snook  wrote:
> 
> I thought as long you replaced the leaking injectors it would be okay? 
> 
> Donald H. Snook
> 
> 
>> On Sep 30, 2019, at 4:12 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>> 
>> Dang it.
>> 
>> Got the car home, got it cleaned up initially, started poking around a bit 
>> and found the tiniest bit of bubbling around the #3 and #4 injectors with 
>> some brake cleaner sprayed around the bases. I checked it out closely when I 
>> test drove it the other day and didn’t see anything. A 60 mile drive on the 
>> interstate at 80 mph seems to have loosened things up a bit…however, the 
>> leakage is really minimal and there’s no buildup of crud or anything that 
>> would indicate it’s significant or even remotely approaching the “Black 
>> Death” stage.
>> 
>> Got a set of seals, bolts and a container of grease ordered from the dealer. 
>> I may just do #3 and #4 and leave the others alone for now. Ordered a seat 
>> cutting tool off Amazon - there are a lot of them, so this must be endemic 
>> for a number of different engines, and not just Mercedes.
>> 
>> I’m going to let the boy drive it until I get the stuff to fix it. We’ll 
>> keep an eye on it in the meantime, but his commute is only about 30-40 miles 
>> a day so I don’t expect it to be an issue at this point.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] New E320 CDI Fun - NOT

2019-09-30 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
I thought as long you replaced the leaking injectors it would be okay? 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 30, 2019, at 4:12 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
> Dang it.
> 
> Got the car home, got it cleaned up initially, started poking around a bit 
> and found the tiniest bit of bubbling around the #3 and #4 injectors with 
> some brake cleaner sprayed around the bases. I checked it out closely when I 
> test drove it the other day and didn’t see anything. A 60 mile drive on the 
> interstate at 80 mph seems to have loosened things up a bit…however, the 
> leakage is really minimal and there’s no buildup of crud or anything that 
> would indicate it’s significant or even remotely approaching the “Black 
> Death” stage.
> 
> Got a set of seals, bolts and a container of grease ordered from the dealer. 
> I may just do #3 and #4 and leave the others alone for now. Ordered a seat 
> cutting tool off Amazon - there are a lot of them, so this must be endemic 
> for a number of different engines, and not just Mercedes.
> 
> I’m going to let the boy drive it until I get the stuff to fix it. We’ll keep 
> an eye on it in the meantime, but his commute is only about 30-40 miles a day 
> so I don’t expect it to be an issue at this point.
> 
> -D
> 

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[MBZ] Should have kept my '59 Volvo 544S

2019-09-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Bought it for $389 in '68 and sold it to my landlord for $35 a year later.
Great cruising car, with an orthopedically designed driver's seat for
comfort on the road.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-volvo-pv544-3/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2019-09-30
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Re: [MBZ] Keys

2019-09-30 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Correct. What about the door lock(s)?


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] Keys

On this new to me 300D, the ignition key does not unlock the trunk.  It has the 
little tiny key.  I am guessing the ignition key is the valet key.   So, if I 
ordered a new key based on the VIN, it should also work on the trunk lock, 
right?   BUT, if the ignition lock cylinder has been replaced previously then a 
key that I order by VIN number will not work in the ignition, right?

Donald H. Snook


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[MBZ] 93 (140) Diesel for Sale in Dallas

2019-09-30 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
The guy I bought the 123 from also had an 87 300SDL.  I wish I would have known 
that.  But, he sold it already for $1500.  He also has a 93 (140 chassis) 
diesel.   That’s a rodbender, right?   He said the previous owner garaged it 
since 2003.  129K.  Transmission was rebuilt two years ago.  Has new tires and 
AMG wheels.  I’m assuming it has not had the replacement engine.   He wants $3K 
but says he is open to offers.   I’m staying away from it.  But, for anyone 
else that has an engine, this could be decent. 

Donald H. Snook


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[MBZ] Keys

2019-09-30 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
On this new to me 300D, the ignition key does not unlock the trunk.  It has the 
little tiny key.  I am guessing the ignition key is the valet key.   So, if I 
ordered a new key based on the VIN, it should also work on the trunk lock, 
right?   BUT, if the ignition lock cylinder has been replaced previously then a 
key that I order by VIN number will not work in the ignition, right?  

Donald H. Snook


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Re: [MBZ] New E320 CDI Fun - NOT

2019-09-30 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 30/09/2019 9:31 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

Not sure.

However, it does show there’s some leakage past the sealing ring of the 
injector, which is the symptom that snowballs into the “Black Death” scenario.

I’m going out of town later in the week, so I’m not sure if I want to take this 
on before I leave or wait until the next weekend to address it. We’ll 
definitely keep close tabs on things, that’s for sure.

Hmm.

-D


What do you mean by "black death"? I have normally heard that phrase in 
reference to AC issues.


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] New E320 CDI Fun - NOT

2019-09-30 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Not sure.

However, it does show there’s some leakage past the sealing ring of the 
injector, which is the symptom that snowballs into the “Black Death” scenario.

I’m going out of town later in the week, so I’m not sure if I want to take this 
on before I leave or wait until the next weekend to address it. We’ll 
definitely keep close tabs on things, that’s for sure.

Hmm.

-D

> On Sep 30, 2019, at 10:22 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is brake cleaner a valid test?
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 5:13 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Dang it.
>> 
>> Got the car home, got it cleaned up initially, started poking around a bit
>> and found the tiniest bit of bubbling around the #3 and #4 injectors with
>> some brake cleaner sprayed around the bases. I checked it out closely when
>> I test drove it the other day and didn’t see anything. A 60 mile drive on
>> the interstate at 80 mph seems to have loosened things up a bit…however,
>> the leakage is really minimal and there’s no buildup of crud or anything
>> that would indicate it’s significant or even remotely approaching the
>> “Black Death” stage.
>> 
>> Got a set of seals, bolts and a container of grease ordered from the
>> dealer. I may just do #3 and #4 and leave the others alone for now. Ordered
>> a seat cutting tool off Amazon - there are a lot of them, so this must be
>> endemic for a number of different engines, and not just Mercedes.
>> 
>> I’m going to let the boy drive it until I get the stuff to fix it. We’ll
>> keep an eye on it in the meantime, but his commute is only about 30-40
>> miles a day so I don’t expect it to be an issue at this point.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] New Addition

2019-09-30 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I had an ER visit years ago that was not covered by health insurance, ended
up with a few stitches in my thumb after I ripped off the thumbnail with a
sawz-all.  The doctor's cost was about $800 and the ER / hospital charge
was another $1000 or so.  Most painful event of my life, but the thumbnail
grew back beautifully.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 7:43 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> If a doctor doesn't make $700 an hour, why should I pay $1500 to be stuck
> on a gurney in the ER and mostly ignored for 90 minutes?
> Mitch
>
> > On September 29, 2019 at 11:43 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > There is an old joke about a doctor who arrives home after a double
> shift only to find his basement flooded.  The doctor calls an emergency
> plumber who arrives promptly.  The  plumber fixes the leak in about an hour
> and .hands the doctor a bill for $700.
> > The doctor is floored by the cost and exclaims that even he (a doctor)
> doesn't make $700 an hour.  The plumber shrugs and says that back when he
> was a doctor he didn't make that much either.
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Wheels and caps?

2019-09-30 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I might be interested in your five hole rims.  Are they really five hole,
or are they eight hole, from a 124 car?  Are they MB rims, or aftermarket?

If you have an LKQ or other you-pull-it salvage yard nearby, bundt rims
might show up occasionally for pretty cheap.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 9:50 AM Donald Snook via Mercedes <
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> My new to me 82 300D has much newer wheels on it. They are the 5 hole
> wheels that are pretty wide. I can’t decide if I want to put bundts on it
> or try the 240D style with wheels and hubcaps.  I’m a sucker for the
> painted caps since my first MB (71 250) had the painted caps.
>
> Anyone have wheels and caps that fit? Or a set of bundts? If they have
> good tires mounted on them that might be the best way to go.
>
> Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] New E320 CDI Fun - NOT

2019-09-30 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Is brake cleaner a valid test?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 5:13 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Dang it.
>
> Got the car home, got it cleaned up initially, started poking around a bit
> and found the tiniest bit of bubbling around the #3 and #4 injectors with
> some brake cleaner sprayed around the bases. I checked it out closely when
> I test drove it the other day and didn’t see anything. A 60 mile drive on
> the interstate at 80 mph seems to have loosened things up a bit…however,
> the leakage is really minimal and there’s no buildup of crud or anything
> that would indicate it’s significant or even remotely approaching the
> “Black Death” stage.
>
> Got a set of seals, bolts and a container of grease ordered from the
> dealer. I may just do #3 and #4 and leave the others alone for now. Ordered
> a seat cutting tool off Amazon - there are a lot of them, so this must be
> endemic for a number of different engines, and not just Mercedes.
>
> I’m going to let the boy drive it until I get the stuff to fix it. We’ll
> keep an eye on it in the meantime, but his commute is only about 30-40
> miles a day so I don’t expect it to be an issue at this point.
>
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] no key no title no suspension car ran when parked

2019-09-30 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Send lawyers, guns and money?
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> Nice price/car but how to overcome the lack of title or key?
>
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 11:51 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> https://savannah.craigslist.org/pts/d/collins-mercedes-benz/6988979989.html
> >
> > --
> > --FT
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Re: [MBZ] New Addition

2019-09-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 The people who talk down about the trades only do so until they need a 
plumber. Its interesting how people act when the toilet won't flush...
-Curt

On Sunday, September 29, 2019, 11:44:07 PM EDT, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 There is an old joke about a doctor who arrives home after a double shift only 
to find his basement flooded.  The doctor calls an emergency plumber who 
arrives promptly.  The  plumber fixes the leak in about an hour and .hands the 
doctor a bill for $700.
The doctor is floored by the cost and exclaims that even he (a doctor) doesn't 
make $700 an hour.  The plumber shrugs and says that back when he was a doctor 
he didn't make that much either.

When you get right down to it, society needs plumbers, mechanics, farmers, 
teachers, trash collectors, etc. a lot more than it needs lawyers, bankers, 
stock brokers, government bureaucrats, etc.

> -Original Message-
> From:  Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> 
> You should follow Mike Rowe. He set up a foundation to support trades
> education and training and apprenticeships. He has some impressive numbers
> on jobs availability and incomes and fights that “college-only” thing. Plus 
> he’s
> quite entertaining and seems like a super guy.
> 


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[MBZ] 123 Wheels and caps?

2019-09-30 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
My new to me 82 300D has much newer wheels on it. They are the 5 hole wheels 
that are pretty wide. I can’t decide if I want to put bundts on it or try the 
240D style with wheels and hubcaps.  I’m a sucker for the painted caps since my 
first MB (71 250) had the painted caps.  

Anyone have wheels and caps that fit? Or a set of bundts? If they have good 
tires mounted on them that might be the best way to go. 

Donald H. Snook


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Re: [MBZ] New E320 CDI Fun - NOT

2019-09-30 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
https://sprintergurus.com/fuel-injector-black-death/

On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 7:42 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I’m not familiar with that issue. Please expound
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dang it.
> >
> > Got the car home, got it cleaned up initially, started poking around a
> bit and found the tiniest bit of bubbling around the #3 and #4 injectors
> with some brake cleaner sprayed around the bases. I checked it out closely
> when I test drove it the other day and didn’t see anything. A 60 mile drive
> on the interstate at 80 mph seems to have loosened things up a bit…however,
> the leakage is really minimal and there’s no buildup of crud or anything
> that would indicate it’s significant or even remotely approaching the
> “Black Death” stage.
> >
> > Got a set of seals, bolts and a container of grease ordered from the
> dealer. I may just do #3 and #4 and leave the others alone for now. Ordered
> a seat cutting tool off Amazon - there are a lot of them, so this must be
> endemic for a number of different engines, and not just Mercedes.
> >
> > I’m going to let the boy drive it until I get the stuff to fix it. We’ll
> keep an eye on it in the meantime, but his commute is only about 30-40
> miles a day so I don’t expect it to be an issue at this point.
> >
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] New E320 CDI Fun - NOT

2019-09-30 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I’m not familiar with that issue. Please expound 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Sep 30, 2019, at 5:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dang it.
> 
> Got the car home, got it cleaned up initially, started poking around a bit 
> and found the tiniest bit of bubbling around the #3 and #4 injectors with 
> some brake cleaner sprayed around the bases. I checked it out closely when I 
> test drove it the other day and didn’t see anything. A 60 mile drive on the 
> interstate at 80 mph seems to have loosened things up a bit…however, the 
> leakage is really minimal and there’s no buildup of crud or anything that 
> would indicate it’s significant or even remotely approaching the “Black 
> Death” stage.
> 
> Got a set of seals, bolts and a container of grease ordered from the dealer. 
> I may just do #3 and #4 and leave the others alone for now. Ordered a seat 
> cutting tool off Amazon - there are a lot of them, so this must be endemic 
> for a number of different engines, and not just Mercedes.
> 
> I’m going to let the boy drive it until I get the stuff to fix it. We’ll keep 
> an eye on it in the meantime, but his commute is only about 30-40 miles a day 
> so I don’t expect it to be an issue at this point.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] New Addition

2019-09-30 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
If a doctor doesn't make $700 an hour, why should I pay $1500 to be stuck on a 
gurney in the ER and mostly ignored for 90 minutes?
Mitch

> On September 29, 2019 at 11:43 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:

> 
> There is an old joke about a doctor who arrives home after a double shift 
> only to find his basement flooded.  The doctor calls an emergency plumber who 
> arrives promptly.  The  plumber fixes the leak in about an hour and .hands 
> the doctor a bill for $700.
> The doctor is floored by the cost and exclaims that even he (a doctor) 
> doesn't make $700 an hour.  The plumber shrugs and says that back when he was 
> a doctor he didn't make that much either.

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[MBZ] New E320 CDI Fun - NOT

2019-09-30 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Dang it.

Got the car home, got it cleaned up initially, started poking around a bit and 
found the tiniest bit of bubbling around the #3 and #4 injectors with some 
brake cleaner sprayed around the bases. I checked it out closely when I test 
drove it the other day and didn’t see anything. A 60 mile drive on the 
interstate at 80 mph seems to have loosened things up a bit…however, the 
leakage is really minimal and there’s no buildup of crud or anything that would 
indicate it’s significant or even remotely approaching the “Black Death” stage.

Got a set of seals, bolts and a container of grease ordered from the dealer. I 
may just do #3 and #4 and leave the others alone for now. Ordered a seat 
cutting tool off Amazon - there are a lot of them, so this must be endemic for 
a number of different engines, and not just Mercedes.

I’m going to let the boy drive it until I get the stuff to fix it. We’ll keep 
an eye on it in the meantime, but his commute is only about 30-40 miles a day 
so I don’t expect it to be an issue at this point.

-D
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