date:20230509

> Is this available messages?

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> On May 9, 2023, at 6:13 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Low miles but still pricy. Looks alright, a few scuffs, would have been 
> better with a darker tan/brown or black interior.
> 
>> Sending "Is this available messages" mean you can't have this car
> 
> https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/chicago-2003-mercedes-benz-e500/7619441383.html
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[MBZ] 2003 E500 - 80k miles - $7,100

2023-05-09 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

Low miles but still pricy. Looks alright, a few scuffs, would have been better 
with a darker tan/brown or black interior.

> Sending "Is this available messages" mean you can't have this car

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/chicago-2003-mercedes-benz-e500/7619441383.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Get A Load of These Snow Tires!

Certainly makes sense (studded bike tires) but it’s not something that ever 
occurred to me - Hakka bike snow tires! Cool!

-D

On May 9, 2023, at 5:58 PM, Curt Raymond 
mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

Let's go ice racing!

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On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 5:53 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
Look closely!

http://penoff.com/Photo_Dump.html#1

-D
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Get A Load of These Snow Tires!

Let's go ice racing!

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  On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 5:53 PM, dan penoff.com via 
Mercedes wrote:   Look closely!

http://penoff.com/Photo_Dump.html#1

-D
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[MBZ] OT - Get A Load of These Snow Tires!

Look closely!

http://penoff.com/Photo_Dump.html#1

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Re: [MBZ] 2005 E320 CDI - 175k miles - $7,500

In SC we have salvage titles. I know this because I have some!  I don’t think 
there are rebuilt titles here, never seen one

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> On May 9, 2023, at 5:30 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> I think this is where things get sort of fuzzy between states.
> 
> In Florida, you can have a “salvage” title and register the vehicle and drive 
> it. If the car was “totaled”, it has to be inspected to get a “rebuilt” title.
> 
> My 1995 S500 coupe that came from Tarek had a salvage title.
> 
> Mrs. Dan’s SL500 had a rebuilt title.
> 
> YMMV
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 9, 2023, at 5:12 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think KY has different color titles to designate rebuilt, salvage, and 
>> clean. I vaguely recall seeing this somewhere 
>> 
>> --FT
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  wrote:
>>> 
>>> "spent over $5000 in the last few months to make it perfect"
>>> 
>>> Salvage title, means it needs to be inspected and upgraded to "rebuilt" to 
>>> register it?
>>> 
>>> https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/louisville-mercedes-e320-cdi-2005/7619286578.html
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Re: [MBZ] 2005 E320 CDI - 175k miles - $7,500

I think this is where things get sort of fuzzy between states.

In Florida, you can have a “salvage” title and register the vehicle and drive 
it. If the car was “totaled”, it has to be inspected to get a “rebuilt” title.

My 1995 S500 coupe that came from Tarek had a salvage title.

Mrs. Dan’s SL500 had a rebuilt title.

YMMV

-D

> On May 9, 2023, at 5:12 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think KY has different color titles to designate rebuilt, salvage, and 
> clean. I vaguely recall seeing this somewhere 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On May 9, 2023, at 4:40 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> "spent over $5000 in the last few months to make it perfect"
>> 
>> Salvage title, means it needs to be inspected and upgraded to "rebuilt" to 
>> register it?
>> 
>> https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/louisville-mercedes-e320-cdi-2005/7619286578.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 2005 E320 CDI - 175k miles - $7,500

I think KY has different color titles to designate rebuilt, salvage, and clean. 
I vaguely recall seeing this somewhere 

--FT
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> On May 9, 2023, at 4:40 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> "spent over $5000 in the last few months to make it perfect"
> 
> Salvage title, means it needs to be inspected and upgraded to "rebuilt" to 
> register it?
> 
> https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/louisville-mercedes-e320-cdi-2005/7619286578.html
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Re: [MBZ] 2005 E320 CDI - 175k miles - $7,500

2023-05-09 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes


Does the $5000 include what you paid for it at the salvage auction?
And by "salvage", do you mean "rebuilt", or is it up to the buyer to 
make sure it passes inspection and retitle it?


On 2023-05-09 16:39, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

"spent over $5000 in the last few months to make it perfect"

Salvage title, means it needs to be inspected and upgraded to
"rebuilt" to register it?

https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/louisville-mercedes-e320-cdi-2005/7619286578.html


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[MBZ] 2005 E320 CDI - 175k miles - $7,500

2023-05-09 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

"spent over $5000 in the last few months to make it perfect"

Salvage title, means it needs to be inspected and upgraded to "rebuilt" to 
register it?

https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/louisville-mercedes-e320-cdi-2005/7619286578.html


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Norway's near-total adoption of electric vehicles

2023-05-09 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

*"Hydropower is still the mainstay of the Norwegian electricity system*.
At the beginning of 2021, there were 1 681 hydropower plants in Norway,
with a combined installed capasity of 33 055 MW. In a normal year, the
Norwegian hydropower plants produce 136.4 TWh, which is 90 % of Norways
total power production."

According to Google

Randy

On 09/05/2023 1:00 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Pretty much forever Texas has been on its own grid with I think one
interconnect in North Texas to some other grid. There was a huge amount of
installed wind generation in West Texas which was fine until one very frigid
New Year’s Day in like 09 or 10 the wind just died. No wind power which was a
very substantial fraction of supply at the time. Caused huge problems getting
units up and running on the holiday and very cold day.

--FT
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On May 9, 2023, at 12:33 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes
wrote:

Probably being led by the same boneheads that had them disconnect from the
national grid. That worked out well for them.

-D

On May 9, 2023, at 12:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via
Mercedes wrote:

Interesting. Meanwhile, Texas is doing all it can to unwind the development
of solar and wind power in order to facilitate natural gas development.
Texas is currently the leading producer of renewable energy in the country.
Go figure.

On Tue, May 9, 2023, 12:13 PM OK Don via Mercedes
wrote:

Sorry to interrupt the ongoing reviews of over priced used Mercedes, but I
found this interesting - not what I expected:

"Norway is more than a decade ahead of the U.S. in its adoption of electric
vehicles. If the Biden administration's goal of having 50 percent of new
vehicles be electric by 2030 sounds ambitious
<
https://theweek.com/climate-change/1022585/are-americans-ready-to-transition-to-evs

Norway passed that mark in 2019, *The New York Times* reports
<
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/08/business/energy-environment/norway-electric-vehicles.html

In 2022, 80 percent of Norway's new car sales were electric, and it plans
to phase out gas-powered cars entirely in 2025. So far, "Norway's
experience suggests that electric vehicles bring benefits without the dire
consequences predicted by some critics
<
https://theweek.com/electric-vehicles/1022859/autos-fast-tracking-the-electric-future

the *Times* reports.

Oslo's air is noticeably cleaner — and much quieter — and its greenhouse
gas emissions have dropped 30 percent since 2009 with no big uptick in
unemployment at gas stations or auto mechanics, or significant strain on
the electrical grid. Norway has put a lot of work into making the
transition, starting with enacting policies to promote electric vehicles in
the 1990s and, more recently, subsidizing the rollout of fast-charge
stations throughout the country.
The combination of tax breaks for EV owners and readily available charging
stations "took away all the friction factors," Volvo Cars CEO Jim Rowan
told the *Times*. But the U.S. and other countries can learn from Norway's
challenges with electric cars, not just its successes. That includes
figuring out the optimal number and locations for charging stations, and
dealing with the frustrations of new EV drivers learning to plug in their
cars. "Sometimes we have to give them a coffee to calm down," Marit
Bergsland, who works at a Circle K north of Oslo with more charging
stations than gas pumps, tells the *Times*. "

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are wearing."

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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

“Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
Werner
Von Braun

"In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it.
In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be
doing it."
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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Norway's near-total adoption of electric vehicles

2023-05-09 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes

Yup.

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> On May 9, 2023, at 12:41 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It's easier for Norway, they can finance all their schemes by selling oil to 
> the rest of the world while at the same time congratualting themselves for 
> being carbon neutral.
> 
> 
>> On Tue, May 9, 2023, at 11:12, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>> Sorry to interrupt the ongoing reviews of over priced used Mercedes, but I
>> found this interesting - not what I expected:
>> 
>> "Norway is more than a decade ahead of the U.S. in its adoption of 
>> electric
>> vehicles. If the Biden administration's goal of having 50 percent of new
>> vehicles be electric by 2030 sounds ambitious
>> ,
>> Norway passed that mark in 2019, *The New York Times* reports
>> .
>> In 2022, 80 percent of Norway's new car sales were electric, and it 
>> plans
>> to phase out gas-powered cars entirely in 2025. So far, "Norway's
>> experience suggests that electric vehicles bring benefits without the 
>> dire
>> consequences predicted by some critics
>> ,"
>> the *Times* reports.
>> 
>> Oslo's air is noticeably cleaner — and much quieter — and its greenhouse
>> gas emissions have dropped 30 percent since 2009 with no big uptick in
>> unemployment at gas stations or auto mechanics, or significant strain on
>> the electrical grid. Norway has put a lot of work into making the
>> transition, starting with enacting policies to promote electric vehicles in
>> the 1990s and, more recently, subsidizing the rollout of fast-charge
>> stations throughout the country.
>> The combination of tax breaks for EV owners and readily available charging
>> stations "took away all the friction factors," Volvo Cars CEO Jim Rowan
>> told the *Times*. But the U.S. and other countries can learn from Norway's
>> challenges with electric cars, not just its successes. That includes
>> figuring out the optimal number and locations for charging stations, and
>> dealing with the frustrations of new EV drivers learning to plug in their
>> cars. "Sometimes we have to give them a coffee to calm down," Marit
>> Bergsland, who works at a Circle K north of Oslo with more charging
>> stations than gas pumps, tells the *Times*. "
>> 
>> -- 
>> OK Don
>> 
>> "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
>> are wearing."
>> 
>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> 
>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Werner
>> Von Braun
>> 
>> "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it.
>> In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be
>> doing it."
>>-- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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[MBZ] uhhhh oooookeeee 2010 Mercedes sprinter parts,$300


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2910437009089605

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[MBZ] Engine runs but only if you spray some starting fluid in it 2001 Mercedes-Benz s-class, $3, 000

bought a junkyard fuel pump but have not put it on yet because I sit 
around smoking weed all day


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Re: [MBZ] Not Too Outrageous GL

I wonder if somebody smelled the "gas" tank and decided they wouldn't warranty 
it.

Saturday the VW dealership replaced the NOx sensor on my Jetta under warranty. 
They had the part in stock, it took about an hour. They didn't try to upsell me 
anything which blew my mind...

-Curt


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Whatever this thing my daughter’s friends bought was a diesel, they got it 
because it could supposedly tow some camping trailer they bought. It pretty 
much died 15mi after they got it in Florida somewhere and there it sits while 
they argue with the seller or a stealer or whoever was involved with selling it 
and getting it sorted. 

--FT
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> On May 9, 2023, at 12:58 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> No Tiguan diesel due to the diesel scandal in 2015.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 9, 2023, at 11:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Tourag? AFAIK the Tiguan never came diesel. At least in USA.
>> Curt
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>> 
>> On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 9:47 PM, Buggered Benzmail via 
>> Mercedes wrote:  My daughter has friends who bought a 
>> used Tiguan diesel and it has been a total nightmare 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On May 8, 2023, at 9:08 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, it is kind of big for them. She is smitten with VW Tiguan right now, 
>>> so that’s more ML-ish, maybe GLC size I’d guess. 
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On May 8, 2023, at 5:20 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 They are big and don’t ride too easily. At least my GL450 doesn’t. I’m 
 not sure I really like it, I think a combination of the size and tall 
 ride. My 2000 suburban actually rode better and is a bit larger. But it 
 will tow 7klb and I suppose the size makes it relatively safe. Tons of 
 room in it though, 3 rows and big cargo space with 3rd row up or down, 
 plenty of growth room for a family!
 
 --FT
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>> On May 8, 2023, at 8:07 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Almost looks like something a fella would buy his daughter who will soon 
> (October) be hauling his new grand baby around. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On May 8, 2023, at 5:02 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah that’s not too unreasonable. I wonder if it has a tow package 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
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  wrote:
>>> 
>>> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/d/phoenix-2007-mercedes-benz-gl-450/7616802992.html
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Norway's near-total adoption of electric vehicles

Apparently Norway's electricity is about $0.12/KWH all in, including supplier 
charges. We're paying $0.16/KWH just for the electricity here in north central 
MA. A year ago we were locked in at $0.10KWH...

If I bought from National Grid it'd be $0.24/KWH just for the electricity.

-Curt




On Tuesday, May 9, 2023 at 02:02:29 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





That’s Iceland. Norway has oil and hydro, that was one question I had as what 
was powering the cars. Cold climate too. Probably no nukes. 

--FT
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> On May 9, 2023, at 12:58 PM, greg via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Doesn't Norway have a super abundant supply of geothermal energy producing
> nearly free electricity? Quite a different situation here.
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
>> Sorry to interrupt the ongoing reviews of over priced used Mercedes, but I
>> found this interesting - not what I expected:
>> 
>> "Norway is more than a decade ahead of the U.S. in its adoption of
>> electric
>> vehicles. If the Biden administration's goal of having 50 percent of new
>> vehicles be electric by 2030 sounds ambitious
>> ,
>> Norway passed that mark in 2019, *The New York Times* reports
>> .
>> In 2022, 80 percent of Norway's new car sales were electric, and it plans
>> to phase out gas-powered cars entirely in 2025. So far, "Norway's
>> experience suggests that electric vehicles bring benefits without the dire
>> consequences predicted by some critics
>> ,"
>> the *Times* reports.
>> 
>> Oslo's air is noticeably cleaner — and much quieter — and its
>> greenhouse
>> gas emissions have dropped 30 percent since 2009 with no big uptick in
>> unemployment at gas stations or auto mechanics, or significant strain on
>> the electrical grid. Norway has put a lot of work into making the
>> transition, starting with enacting policies to promote electric vehicles
>> in
>> the 1990s and, more recently, subsidizing the rollout of fast-charge
>> stations throughout the country.
>> The combination of tax breaks for EV owners and readily available charging
>> stations "took away all the friction factors," Volvo Cars CEO Jim Rowan
>> told the *Times*. But the U.S. and other countries can learn from Norway's
>> challenges with electric cars, not just its successes. That includes
>> figuring out the optimal number and locations for charging stations, and
>> dealing with the frustrations of new EV drivers learning to plug in their
>> cars. "Sometimes we have to give them a coffee to calm down," Marit
>> Bergsland, who works at a Circle K north of Oslo with more charging
>> stations than gas pumps, tells the *Times*. "
>> 
>> --
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>> 
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>> 
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>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> 
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>> doing.”  Werner
>> Von Braun
>> 
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>> In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be
>> doing it."
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Re: [MBZ] Not Too Outrageous GL

Whatever this thing my daughter’s friends bought was a diesel, they got it 
because it could supposedly tow some camping trailer they bought. It pretty 
much died 15mi after they got it in Florida somewhere and there it sits while 
they argue with the seller or a stealer or whoever was involved with selling it 
and getting it sorted. 

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> On May 9, 2023, at 12:58 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> No Tiguan diesel due to the diesel scandal in 2015.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 9, 2023, at 11:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Tourag? AFAIK the Tiguan never came diesel. At least in USA.
>> Curt
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>> 
>> On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 9:47 PM, Buggered Benzmail via 
>> Mercedes wrote:   My daughter has friends who bought 
>> a used Tiguan diesel and it has been a total nightmare 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On May 8, 2023, at 9:08 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, it is kind of big for them. She is smitten with VW Tiguan right now, 
>>> so that’s more ML-ish, maybe GLC size I’d guess. 
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On May 8, 2023, at 5:20 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 They are big and don’t ride too easily. At least my GL450 doesn’t. I’m 
 not sure I really like it, I think a combination of the size and tall 
 ride. My 2000 suburban actually rode better and is a bit larger. But it 
 will tow 7klb and I suppose the size makes it relatively safe. Tons of 
 room in it though, 3 rows and big cargo space with 3rd row up or down, 
 plenty of growth room for a family!
 
 --FT
 Sent from iFōn
 
>> On May 8, 2023, at 8:07 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Almost looks like something a fella would buy his daughter who will soon 
> (October) be hauling his new grand baby around. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On May 8, 2023, at 5:02 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah that’s not too unreasonable. I wonder if it has a tow package 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Norway's near-total adoption of electric vehicles

That’s Iceland. Norway has oil and hydro, that was one question I had as what 
was powering the cars. Cold climate too. Probably no nukes. 

--FT
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> On May 9, 2023, at 12:58 PM, greg via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Doesn't Norway have a super abundant supply of geothermal energy producing
> nearly free electricity? Quite a different situation here.
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
>> Sorry to interrupt the ongoing reviews of over priced used Mercedes, but I
>> found this interesting - not what I expected:
>> 
>> "Norway is more than a decade ahead of the U.S. in its adoption of
>> electric
>> vehicles. If the Biden administration's goal of having 50 percent of new
>> vehicles be electric by 2030 sounds ambitious
>> ,
>> Norway passed that mark in 2019, *The New York Times* reports
>> .
>> In 2022, 80 percent of Norway's new car sales were electric, and it plans
>> to phase out gas-powered cars entirely in 2025. So far, "Norway's
>> experience suggests that electric vehicles bring benefits without the dire
>> consequences predicted by some critics
>> ,"
>> the *Times* reports.
>> 
>> Oslo's air is noticeably cleaner — and much quieter — and its
>> greenhouse
>> gas emissions have dropped 30 percent since 2009 with no big uptick in
>> unemployment at gas stations or auto mechanics, or significant strain on
>> the electrical grid. Norway has put a lot of work into making the
>> transition, starting with enacting policies to promote electric vehicles
>> in
>> the 1990s and, more recently, subsidizing the rollout of fast-charge
>> stations throughout the country.
>> The combination of tax breaks for EV owners and readily available charging
>> stations "took away all the friction factors," Volvo Cars CEO Jim Rowan
>> told the *Times*. But the U.S. and other countries can learn from Norway's
>> challenges with electric cars, not just its successes. That includes
>> figuring out the optimal number and locations for charging stations, and
>> dealing with the frustrations of new EV drivers learning to plug in their
>> cars. "Sometimes we have to give them a coffee to calm down," Marit
>> Bergsland, who works at a Circle K north of Oslo with more charging
>> stations than gas pumps, tells the *Times*. "
>> 
>> --
>> OK Don
>> 
>> "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
>> are wearing."
>> 
>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> 
>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am
>> doing.”  Werner
>> Von Braun
>> 
>> "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it.
>> In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be
>> doing it."
>>-- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Norway's near-total adoption of electric vehicles

Pretty much forever Texas has been on its own grid with I think one 
interconnect in North Texas to some other grid. There was a huge amount of 
installed wind generation in West Texas which was fine until one very frigid 
New Year’s Day in like 09 or 10 the wind just died. No wind power which was a 
very substantial fraction of supply at the time. Caused huge problems getting 
units up and running on the holiday and very cold day. 

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> On May 9, 2023, at 12:33 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Probably being led by the same boneheads that had them disconnect from the 
> national grid. That worked out well for them.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 9, 2023, at 12:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting. Meanwhile, Texas is doing all it can to unwind the development
>> of solar and wind power in order to facilitate natural gas development.
>> Texas is currently the leading producer of renewable energy in the country.
>> Go figure.
>> 
>>> On Tue, May 9, 2023, 12:13 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry to interrupt the ongoing reviews of over priced used Mercedes, but I
>>> found this interesting - not what I expected:
>>> 
>>> "Norway is more than a decade ahead of the U.S. in its adoption of electric
>>> vehicles. If the Biden administration's goal of having 50 percent of new
>>> vehicles be electric by 2030 sounds ambitious
>>> <
>>> https://theweek.com/climate-change/1022585/are-americans-ready-to-transition-to-evs
 ,
>>> Norway passed that mark in 2019, *The New York Times* reports
>>> <
>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/08/business/energy-environment/norway-electric-vehicles.html
 .
>>> In 2022, 80 percent of Norway's new car sales were electric, and it plans
>>> to phase out gas-powered cars entirely in 2025. So far, "Norway's
>>> experience suggests that electric vehicles bring benefits without the dire
>>> consequences predicted by some critics
>>> <
>>> https://theweek.com/electric-vehicles/1022859/autos-fast-tracking-the-electric-future
 ,"
>>> the *Times* reports.
>>> 
>>> Oslo's air is noticeably cleaner — and much quieter — and its greenhouse
>>> gas emissions have dropped 30 percent since 2009 with no big uptick in
>>> unemployment at gas stations or auto mechanics, or significant strain on
>>> the electrical grid. Norway has put a lot of work into making the
>>> transition, starting with enacting policies to promote electric vehicles in
>>> the 1990s and, more recently, subsidizing the rollout of fast-charge
>>> stations throughout the country.
>>> The combination of tax breaks for EV owners and readily available charging
>>> stations "took away all the friction factors," Volvo Cars CEO Jim Rowan
>>> told the *Times*. But the U.S. and other countries can learn from Norway's
>>> challenges with electric cars, not just its successes. That includes
>>> figuring out the optimal number and locations for charging stations, and
>>> dealing with the frustrations of new EV drivers learning to plug in their
>>> cars. "Sometimes we have to give them a coffee to calm down," Marit
>>> Bergsland, who works at a Circle K north of Oslo with more charging
>>> stations than gas pumps, tells the *Times*. "
>>> 
>>> --
>>> OK Don
>>> 
>>> "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
>>> are wearing."
>>> 
>>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>>> Werner
>>> Von Braun
>>> 
>>> "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it.
>>> In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be
>>> doing it."
>>>   -- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering
>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Norway's near-total adoption of electric vehicles

2023-05-09 Thread greg via Mercedes

Doesn't Norway have a super abundant supply of geothermal energy producing
nearly free electricity? Quite a different situation here.

Greg


> Sorry to interrupt the ongoing reviews of over priced used Mercedes, but I
> found this interesting - not what I expected:
>
> "Norway is more than a decade ahead of the U.S. in its adoption of
> electric
> vehicles. If the Biden administration's goal of having 50 percent of new
> vehicles be electric by 2030 sounds ambitious
> ,
> Norway passed that mark in 2019, *The New York Times* reports
> .
> In 2022, 80 percent of Norway's new car sales were electric, and it plans
> to phase out gas-powered cars entirely in 2025. So far, "Norway's
> experience suggests that electric vehicles bring benefits without the dire
> consequences predicted by some critics
> ,"
> the *Times* reports.
>
> Oslo's air is noticeably cleaner â and much quieter â and its
> greenhouse
> gas emissions have dropped 30 percent since 2009 with no big uptick in
> unemployment at gas stations or auto mechanics, or significant strain on
> the electrical grid. Norway has put a lot of work into making the
> transition, starting with enacting policies to promote electric vehicles
> in
> the 1990s and, more recently, subsidizing the rollout of fast-charge
> stations throughout the country.
> The combination of tax breaks for EV owners and readily available charging
> stations "took away all the friction factors," Volvo Cars CEO Jim Rowan
> told the *Times*. But the U.S. and other countries can learn from Norway's
> challenges with electric cars, not just its successes. That includes
> figuring out the optimal number and locations for charging stations, and
> dealing with the frustrations of new EV drivers learning to plug in their
> cars. "Sometimes we have to give them a coffee to calm down," Marit
> Bergsland, who works at a Circle K north of Oslo with more charging
> stations than gas pumps, tells the *Times*. "
>
> --
> OK Don
>
> "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
> are wearing."
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> âBasic research is what Iâm doing when I donât know what I am
> doing.â  Werner
> Von Braun
>
> "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it.
> In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be
> doing it."
> -- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Not Too Outrageous GL

No Tiguan diesel due to the diesel scandal in 2015.

-D

> On May 9, 2023, at 11:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Tourag? AFAIK the Tiguan never came diesel. At least in USA.
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> 
>  On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 9:47 PM, Buggered Benzmail via 
> Mercedes wrote:   My daughter has friends who bought a 
> used Tiguan diesel and it has been a total nightmare 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On May 8, 2023, at 9:08 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, it is kind of big for them. She is smitten with VW Tiguan right now, 
>> so that’s more ML-ish, maybe GLC size I’d guess. 
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 8, 2023, at 5:20 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> They are big and don’t ride too easily. At least my GL450 doesn’t. I’m not 
>>> sure I really like it, I think a combination of the size and tall ride. My 
>>> 2000 suburban actually rode better and is a bit larger. But it will tow 
>>> 7klb and I suppose the size makes it relatively safe. Tons of room in it 
>>> though, 3 rows and big cargo space with 3rd row up or down, plenty of 
>>> growth room for a family!
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
> On May 8, 2023, at 8:07 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Almost looks like something a fella would buy his daughter who will soon 
 (October) be hauling his new grand baby around. 
 
 AZBob
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On May 8, 2023, at 5:02 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah that’s not too unreasonable. I wonder if it has a tow package 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>>> On May 8, 2023, at 6:57 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/d/phoenix-2007-mercedes-benz-gl-450/7616802992.html
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Norway's near-total adoption of electric vehicles

2023-05-09 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


And has abundant cheap hydro electricity.

Randy


On 09/05/2023 11:50 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:

Plus Norway is roughly the size of New Mexico, with a smaller population
than New York City...

On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 11:41 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


It's easier for Norway, they can finance all their schemes by selling oil
to the rest of the world while at the same time congratualting themselves
for being carbon neutral.


On Tue, May 9, 2023, at 11:12, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Sorry to interrupt the ongoing reviews of over priced used Mercedes, but

I

found this interesting - not what I expected:

"Norway is more than a decade ahead of the U.S. in its adoption of
electric
vehicles. If the Biden administration's goal of having 50 percent of new
vehicles be electric by 2030 sounds ambitious
<

https://theweek.com/climate-change/1022585/are-americans-ready-to-transition-to-evs

,
Norway passed that mark in 2019, *The New York Times* reports
<

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/08/business/energy-environment/norway-electric-vehicles.html

.
In 2022, 80 percent of Norway's new car sales were electric, and it
plans
to phase out gas-powered cars entirely in 2025. So far, "Norway's
experience suggests that electric vehicles bring benefits without the
dire
consequences predicted by some critics
<

https://theweek.com/electric-vehicles/1022859/autos-fast-tracking-the-electric-future

,"
the *Times* reports.

Oslo's air is noticeably cleaner — and much quieter — and its greenhouse
gas emissions have dropped 30 percent since 2009 with no big uptick in
unemployment at gas stations or auto mechanics, or significant strain on
the electrical grid. Norway has put a lot of work into making the
transition, starting with enacting policies to promote electric vehicles

in

the 1990s and, more recently, subsidizing the rollout of fast-charge
stations throughout the country.
The combination of tax breaks for EV owners and readily available

charging

stations "took away all the friction factors," Volvo Cars CEO Jim Rowan
told the *Times*. But the U.S. and other countries can learn from

Norway's

challenges with electric cars, not just its successes. That includes
figuring out the optimal number and locations for charging stations, and
dealing with the frustrations of new EV drivers learning to plug in their
cars. "Sometimes we have to give them a coffee to calm down," Marit
Bergsland, who works at a Circle K north of Oslo with more charging
stations than gas pumps, tells the *Times*. "

--
OK Don

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are wearing."

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain

“Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”

Werner

Von Braun

"In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it.
In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be
doing it."
 -- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Norway's near-total adoption of electric vehicles

2023-05-09 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes

Plus Norway is roughly the size of New Mexico, with a smaller population
than New York City...

On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 11:41 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It's easier for Norway, they can finance all their schemes by selling oil
> to the rest of the world while at the same time congratualting themselves
> for being carbon neutral.
>
>
> On Tue, May 9, 2023, at 11:12, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > Sorry to interrupt the ongoing reviews of over priced used Mercedes, but
> I
> > found this interesting - not what I expected:
> >
> > "Norway is more than a decade ahead of the U.S. in its adoption of
> > electric
> > vehicles. If the Biden administration's goal of having 50 percent of new
> > vehicles be electric by 2030 sounds ambitious
> > <
> https://theweek.com/climate-change/1022585/are-americans-ready-to-transition-to-evs
> >,
> > Norway passed that mark in 2019, *The New York Times* reports
> > <
> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/08/business/energy-environment/norway-electric-vehicles.html
> >.
> > In 2022, 80 percent of Norway's new car sales were electric, and it
> > plans
> > to phase out gas-powered cars entirely in 2025. So far, "Norway's
> > experience suggests that electric vehicles bring benefits without the
> > dire
> > consequences predicted by some critics
> > <
> https://theweek.com/electric-vehicles/1022859/autos-fast-tracking-the-electric-future
> >,"
> > the *Times* reports.
> >
> > Oslo's air is noticeably cleaner — and much quieter — and its greenhouse
> > gas emissions have dropped 30 percent since 2009 with no big uptick in
> > unemployment at gas stations or auto mechanics, or significant strain on
> > the electrical grid. Norway has put a lot of work into making the
> > transition, starting with enacting policies to promote electric vehicles
> in
> > the 1990s and, more recently, subsidizing the rollout of fast-charge
> > stations throughout the country.
> > The combination of tax breaks for EV owners and readily available
> charging
> > stations "took away all the friction factors," Volvo Cars CEO Jim Rowan
> > told the *Times*. But the U.S. and other countries can learn from
> Norway's
> > challenges with electric cars, not just its successes. That includes
> > figuring out the optimal number and locations for charging stations, and
> > dealing with the frustrations of new EV drivers learning to plug in their
> > cars. "Sometimes we have to give them a coffee to calm down," Marit
> > Bergsland, who works at a Circle K north of Oslo with more charging
> > stations than gas pumps, tells the *Times*. "
> >
> > --
> > OK Don
> >
> > "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
> > are wearing."
> >
> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Werner
> > Von Braun
> >
> > "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it.
> > In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be
> > doing it."
> > -- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] I think I might be in lust -- 1962 Mercedes-Benz 220se - opera coupe, $7, 000

2023-05-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Floyd has put in his time and deserves this prize acquisition.

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> If you happen to be filthy rich, just buy it and send it to Pierre
> Hedary and carry on.
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 09/05/2023 9:43 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > The patina adds to the mystery
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/617885396647642
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300d Sedan 4D,$5

2023-05-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

It all depends. I sold my 300 TD with 383,000 MI for $10k and probably
could have gotten more if I were more patient.

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> $3500  It actually looks fairly decent but that price is a bit dear for
> 320kmi
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Norway's near-total adoption of electric vehicles

2023-05-09 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

It's easier for Norway, they can finance all their schemes by selling oil to 
the rest of the world while at the same time congratualting themselves for 
being carbon neutral.


On Tue, May 9, 2023, at 11:12, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> Sorry to interrupt the ongoing reviews of over priced used Mercedes, but I
> found this interesting - not what I expected:
>
> "Norway is more than a decade ahead of the U.S. in its adoption of 
> electric
> vehicles. If the Biden administration's goal of having 50 percent of new
> vehicles be electric by 2030 sounds ambitious
> ,
> Norway passed that mark in 2019, *The New York Times* reports
> .
> In 2022, 80 percent of Norway's new car sales were electric, and it 
> plans
> to phase out gas-powered cars entirely in 2025. So far, "Norway's
> experience suggests that electric vehicles bring benefits without the 
> dire
> consequences predicted by some critics
> ,"
> the *Times* reports.
>
> Oslo's air is noticeably cleaner — and much quieter — and its greenhouse
> gas emissions have dropped 30 percent since 2009 with no big uptick in
> unemployment at gas stations or auto mechanics, or significant strain on
> the electrical grid. Norway has put a lot of work into making the
> transition, starting with enacting policies to promote electric vehicles in
> the 1990s and, more recently, subsidizing the rollout of fast-charge
> stations throughout the country.
> The combination of tax breaks for EV owners and readily available charging
> stations "took away all the friction factors," Volvo Cars CEO Jim Rowan
> told the *Times*. But the U.S. and other countries can learn from Norway's
> challenges with electric cars, not just its successes. That includes
> figuring out the optimal number and locations for charging stations, and
> dealing with the frustrations of new EV drivers learning to plug in their
> cars. "Sometimes we have to give them a coffee to calm down," Marit
> Bergsland, who works at a Circle K north of Oslo with more charging
> stations than gas pumps, tells the *Times*. "
>
> -- 
> OK Don
>
> "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
> are wearing."
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Werner
> Von Braun
>
> "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it.
> In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be
> doing it."
> -- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Norway's near-total adoption of electric vehicles

Probably being led by the same boneheads that had them disconnect from the 
national grid. That worked out well for them.

-D

> On May 9, 2023, at 12:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Interesting. Meanwhile, Texas is doing all it can to unwind the development
> of solar and wind power in order to facilitate natural gas development.
> Texas is currently the leading producer of renewable energy in the country.
> Go figure.
> 
>> On Tue, May 9, 2023, 12:13 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry to interrupt the ongoing reviews of over priced used Mercedes, but I
>> found this interesting - not what I expected:
>> 
>> "Norway is more than a decade ahead of the U.S. in its adoption of electric
>> vehicles. If the Biden administration's goal of having 50 percent of new
>> vehicles be electric by 2030 sounds ambitious
>> <
>> https://theweek.com/climate-change/1022585/are-americans-ready-to-transition-to-evs
>>> ,
>> Norway passed that mark in 2019, *The New York Times* reports
>> <
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/08/business/energy-environment/norway-electric-vehicles.html
>>> .
>> In 2022, 80 percent of Norway's new car sales were electric, and it plans
>> to phase out gas-powered cars entirely in 2025. So far, "Norway's
>> experience suggests that electric vehicles bring benefits without the dire
>> consequences predicted by some critics
>> <
>> https://theweek.com/electric-vehicles/1022859/autos-fast-tracking-the-electric-future
>>> ,"
>> the *Times* reports.
>> 
>> Oslo's air is noticeably cleaner — and much quieter — and its greenhouse
>> gas emissions have dropped 30 percent since 2009 with no big uptick in
>> unemployment at gas stations or auto mechanics, or significant strain on
>> the electrical grid. Norway has put a lot of work into making the
>> transition, starting with enacting policies to promote electric vehicles in
>> the 1990s and, more recently, subsidizing the rollout of fast-charge
>> stations throughout the country.
>> The combination of tax breaks for EV owners and readily available charging
>> stations "took away all the friction factors," Volvo Cars CEO Jim Rowan
>> told the *Times*. But the U.S. and other countries can learn from Norway's
>> challenges with electric cars, not just its successes. That includes
>> figuring out the optimal number and locations for charging stations, and
>> dealing with the frustrations of new EV drivers learning to plug in their
>> cars. "Sometimes we have to give them a coffee to calm down," Marit
>> Bergsland, who works at a Circle K north of Oslo with more charging
>> stations than gas pumps, tells the *Times*. "
>> 
>> --
>> OK Don
>> 
>> "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
>> are wearing."
>> 
>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> 
>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>> Werner
>> Von Braun
>> 
>> "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it.
>> In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be
>> doing it."
>>-- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Norway's near-total adoption of electric vehicles

2023-05-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Interesting. Meanwhile, Texas is doing all it can to unwind the development
of solar and wind power in order to facilitate natural gas development.
Texas is currently the leading producer of renewable energy in the country.
Go figure.

On Tue, May 9, 2023, 12:13 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Sorry to interrupt the ongoing reviews of over priced used Mercedes, but I
> found this interesting - not what I expected:
>
> "Norway is more than a decade ahead of the U.S. in its adoption of electric
> vehicles. If the Biden administration's goal of having 50 percent of new
> vehicles be electric by 2030 sounds ambitious
> <
> https://theweek.com/climate-change/1022585/are-americans-ready-to-transition-to-evs
> >,
> Norway passed that mark in 2019, *The New York Times* reports
> <
> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/08/business/energy-environment/norway-electric-vehicles.html
> >.
> In 2022, 80 percent of Norway's new car sales were electric, and it plans
> to phase out gas-powered cars entirely in 2025. So far, "Norway's
> experience suggests that electric vehicles bring benefits without the dire
> consequences predicted by some critics
> <
> https://theweek.com/electric-vehicles/1022859/autos-fast-tracking-the-electric-future
> >,"
> the *Times* reports.
>
> Oslo's air is noticeably cleaner — and much quieter — and its greenhouse
> gas emissions have dropped 30 percent since 2009 with no big uptick in
> unemployment at gas stations or auto mechanics, or significant strain on
> the electrical grid. Norway has put a lot of work into making the
> transition, starting with enacting policies to promote electric vehicles in
> the 1990s and, more recently, subsidizing the rollout of fast-charge
> stations throughout the country.
> The combination of tax breaks for EV owners and readily available charging
> stations "took away all the friction factors," Volvo Cars CEO Jim Rowan
> told the *Times*. But the U.S. and other countries can learn from Norway's
> challenges with electric cars, not just its successes. That includes
> figuring out the optimal number and locations for charging stations, and
> dealing with the frustrations of new EV drivers learning to plug in their
> cars. "Sometimes we have to give them a coffee to calm down," Marit
> Bergsland, who works at a Circle K north of Oslo with more charging
> stations than gas pumps, tells the *Times*. "
>
> --
> OK Don
>
> "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
> are wearing."
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Werner
> Von Braun
>
> "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it.
> In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be
> doing it."
> -- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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[MBZ] OT: Norway's near-total adoption of electric vehicles

2023-05-09 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

Sorry to interrupt the ongoing reviews of over priced used Mercedes, but I
found this interesting - not what I expected:

"Norway is more than a decade ahead of the U.S. in its adoption of electric
vehicles. If the Biden administration's goal of having 50 percent of new
vehicles be electric by 2030 sounds ambitious
,
Norway passed that mark in 2019, *The New York Times* reports
.
In 2022, 80 percent of Norway's new car sales were electric, and it plans
to phase out gas-powered cars entirely in 2025. So far, "Norway's
experience suggests that electric vehicles bring benefits without the dire
consequences predicted by some critics
,"
the *Times* reports.

Oslo's air is noticeably cleaner — and much quieter — and its greenhouse
gas emissions have dropped 30 percent since 2009 with no big uptick in
unemployment at gas stations or auto mechanics, or significant strain on
the electrical grid. Norway has put a lot of work into making the
transition, starting with enacting policies to promote electric vehicles in
the 1990s and, more recently, subsidizing the rollout of fast-charge
stations throughout the country.
The combination of tax breaks for EV owners and readily available charging
stations "took away all the friction factors," Volvo Cars CEO Jim Rowan
told the *Times*. But the U.S. and other countries can learn from Norway's
challenges with electric cars, not just its successes. That includes
figuring out the optimal number and locations for charging stations, and
dealing with the frustrations of new EV drivers learning to plug in their
cars. "Sometimes we have to give them a coffee to calm down," Marit
Bergsland, who works at a Circle K north of Oslo with more charging
stations than gas pumps, tells the *Times*. "

-- 
OK Don

"Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
are wearing."

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain

“Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Werner
Von Braun

"In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it.
In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be
doing it."
-- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] I think I might be in lust -- 1962 Mercedes-Benz 220se - opera coupe, $7, 000

2023-05-09 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

If you happen to be filthy rich, just buy it and send it to Pierre 
Hedary and carry on.


Randy


On 09/05/2023 9:43 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

The patina adds to the mystery

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Re: [MBZ] Not Too Outrageous GL

Tourag? AFAIK the Tiguan never came diesel. At least in USA.
Curt

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  On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 9:47 PM, Buggered Benzmail via 
Mercedes wrote:   My daughter has friends who bought a 
used Tiguan diesel and it has been a total nightmare 

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On May 8, 2023, at 9:08 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, it is kind of big for them. She is smitten with VW Tiguan right now, 
> so that’s more ML-ish, maybe GLC size I’d guess. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 8, 2023, at 5:20 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> They are big and don’t ride too easily. At least my GL450 doesn’t. I’m not 
>> sure I really like it, I think a combination of the size and tall ride. My 
>> 2000 suburban actually rode better and is a bit larger. But it will tow 7klb 
>> and I suppose the size makes it relatively safe. Tons of room in it though, 
>> 3 rows and big cargo space with 3rd row up or down, plenty of growth room 
>> for a family!
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On May 8, 2023, at 8:07 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Almost looks like something a fella would buy his daughter who will soon 
>>> (October) be hauling his new grand baby around. 
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On May 8, 2023, at 5:02 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Yeah that’s not too unreasonable. I wonder if it has a tow package 
 
 --FT
 Sent from iFōn
 
>> On May 8, 2023, at 6:57 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/d/phoenix-2007-mercedes-benz-gl-450/7616802992.html
> 
> AZBob
> 
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[MBZ] 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300d Sedan 4D,$5

$3500  It actually looks fairly decent but that price is a bit dear for 
320kmi


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/127861186954469

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[MBZ] I think I might be in lust -- 1962 Mercedes-Benz 220se - opera coupe, $7, 000


The patina adds to the mystery

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[MBZ] Its a nice car. Need works 2006 Mercedes-Benz r-class, $4, 000


R500? Slammed?  Looks like it has a hitch

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[MBZ] 2008 Mercedes-Benz 4 dool,$3,000


or maybe not

Good make a good car to bring home

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Re: [MBZ] At Least I Didn't Tell Him To Put The Crack Pipe Down


Definitely been hitting the crack pipe too hard

--FT

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Re: [MBZ] At Least I Didn't Tell Him To Put The Crack Pipe Down