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Re: [MBZ] AC Overcharged Question!!!

On Sun, May 28, 2023, at 19:52, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

> For the record, _after_ I recharged my W210 I got 53 degrees.
> Depending on the car, mid-40's is as good as it gets.

My parents had a Toyota Camry that would get cold enough that the air from the 
vents would create fog in the car if the humidity was high. Sort of the 
opposite effect of exhaling on a cold winter day. Never measured what the temp 
was but I've never seen another car do that.

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Re: [MBZ] AC Overcharged Question!!!

2023-05-28 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

> The vents were blowing 45 degrees F so I knew it needed some R134.

For the record, _after_ I recharged my W210 I got 53 degrees.
Depending on the car, mid-40's is as good as it gets.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] AC Overcharged Question!!!

2023-05-28 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

> Mid 30s would be a really good vent temp in a car.

Exceptionally good.  All such systems are designed to NOT hit freezing
at the evaporator, when working correctly, so as not to clog with ice.
I think the best vent temperature I've ever seen, on any car I've worked
on and which was working correctly, was 38 degrees F.

I had one get an exceptionally low temperature, but it was due to a
clogged expansion valve.  The temps were ultra-low, but its cooling
capacity was also.  (Analogous to volts vs amperes.)  This was the
250C.  I opened the expansion valve and cleaned it out, thereafter it
worked correctly.

An overfull AC system generally does not over-cool.  That's not how it works.
The systems are simple mechanically.  Not so much, thermodynamically.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] AC Overcharged Question!!!

I’ve had a few cars I’ve gotten down in this range after some tweaking. Mrs. 
Day used to require a “portal to the Arctic” from center vents, so I did what I 
could to dial stuff in. Thankfully, these systems have no problem doing it for 
the most part.

-D

> On May 28, 2023, at 5:21 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Mid 30s would be a really good vent temp in a car.
> 
> On Sun, May 28, 2023, at 15:52, Robert Koziak via Mercedes wrote:
>> Thanks for the quick replies!  I borrowed another digital temperature 
>> gauge from a neighbor and the readings were consistently between 26 F 
>> and 36 F at "max cold" when checked at the four vents.  I suspect the 
>> digital Temperature Gauge I had was giving faulty readings too.
>> The AC feels great but I was just concerned about an overfill causing 
>> problems.  Tomorrow time to buy new gauges and recheck everything.  
>> Have a great Memorial Day!
>> Bob K
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>> To: Okie Benz 
>> Cc: dan penoff.com 
>> Sent: Sun, May 28, 2023 4:26 pm
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC Overcharged Question!!!
>> 
>> AC is all about pressures and temperatures. It’s not something you can 
>> guess at and expect a specific outcome.
>> 
>> And just as an aside, I suspect the 10 degrees comment was an 
>> embellishment rather than an exact reading. These systems have a low 
>> temperature cutout that would shut off the compressor if the evaporator 
>> freezes or temperature gets below a setpoint.
>> 
>> There was a hack for the W126 chassis cars I used to do to mine:
>> 
>> The compressor cutout on these was a mechanical switch connected to a 
>> capillary tube that was positioned between the evaporator fins in the 
>> heater box. It’s easy to remove. I think they typically cut out at 40F 
>> or maybe slightly below that. You could recalibrate them by putting the 
>> capillary into a glass of crushed ice/water to get it down to near 
>> freezing. Using a test light or an ohmmeter, you calibrated the switch 
>> to open at the lower temperature.
>> 
>> Made a big difference in places like Florida, believe me!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 28, 2023, at 3:50 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't think a car AC will ever blow as cold as 10 degrees F. How are you 
>>> measuring these temps?
>>> 
>>> One can is probably not enough to damage anything, but if you're worried 
>>> don't run the AC until you get a working pressure gauge, ideally a set that 
>>> measures low and high side pressures. Harbor Freight sells them.
>>> 
>>> https://www.harborfreight.com/r134a-ac-manifold-gauge-set-58776.html
>>> 
>>> You can then compare your readings to a chart such as this one.
>>> 
>>> https://jamcoautoparts.com/systempressuretroubleshootingchart/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, May 28, 2023, at 14:34, Robert Koziak via Mercedes wrote:
 Hi All,
 I just went to charge my 2011 Mercedes C300.  The vents were 
 blowing 45 degrees F so I knew it needed some R134.  The 134A adapter I 
 used has a faulty gauge!  I used about one can and the vents were 
 blowing 10 degrees F after I charged the system.  Did I overfill the 
 system and should I let some out?
 Don't want to cause damage...help!  I will buy a new 
 gauge tomorrow and check.  
   Thanks in advance!
 Bob K
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] AC Overcharged Question!!!

Mid 30s would be a really good vent temp in a car.

On Sun, May 28, 2023, at 15:52, Robert Koziak via Mercedes wrote:
> Thanks for the quick replies!  I borrowed another digital temperature 
> gauge from a neighbor and the readings were consistently between 26 F 
> and 36 F at "max cold" when checked at the four vents.  I suspect the 
> digital Temperature Gauge I had was giving faulty readings too.
> The AC feels great but I was just concerned about an overfill causing 
> problems.  Tomorrow time to buy new gauges and recheck everything.  
> Have a great Memorial Day!
> Bob K
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> To: Okie Benz 
> Cc: dan penoff.com 
> Sent: Sun, May 28, 2023 4:26 pm
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC Overcharged Question!!!
>
> AC is all about pressures and temperatures. It’s not something you can 
> guess at and expect a specific outcome.
>
> And just as an aside, I suspect the 10 degrees comment was an 
> embellishment rather than an exact reading. These systems have a low 
> temperature cutout that would shut off the compressor if the evaporator 
> freezes or temperature gets below a setpoint.
>
> There was a hack for the W126 chassis cars I used to do to mine:
>
> The compressor cutout on these was a mechanical switch connected to a 
> capillary tube that was positioned between the evaporator fins in the 
> heater box. It’s easy to remove. I think they typically cut out at 40F 
> or maybe slightly below that. You could recalibrate them by putting the 
> capillary into a glass of crushed ice/water to get it down to near 
> freezing. Using a test light or an ohmmeter, you calibrated the switch 
> to open at the lower temperature.
>
> Made a big difference in places like Florida, believe me!
>
> -D
>
>> On May 28, 2023, at 3:50 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't think a car AC will ever blow as cold as 10 degrees F. How are you 
>> measuring these temps?
>> 
>> One can is probably not enough to damage anything, but if you're worried 
>> don't run the AC until you get a working pressure gauge, ideally a set that 
>> measures low and high side pressures. Harbor Freight sells them.
>> 
>> https://www.harborfreight.com/r134a-ac-manifold-gauge-set-58776.html
>> 
>> You can then compare your readings to a chart such as this one.
>> 
>> https://jamcoautoparts.com/systempressuretroubleshootingchart/
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, May 28, 2023, at 14:34, Robert Koziak via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>    I just went to charge my 2011 Mercedes C300.  The vents were 
>>> blowing 45 degrees F so I knew it needed some R134.  The 134A adapter I 
>>> used has a faulty gauge!  I used about one can and the vents were 
>>> blowing 10 degrees F after I charged the system.  Did I overfill the 
>>> system and should I let some out?
>>>    Don't want to cause damage...help!  I will buy a new 
>>> gauge tomorrow and check.  
>>>  Thanks in advance!
>>> Bob K
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Re: [MBZ] Tire plug

Yeah had the same difficulty with the plug kit I bought at NAPA. Eventually got 
it in and the tire's been holding air so they do work.

On Sun, May 28, 2023, at 15:28, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> I found a nail in a tire on the GL the other day. Ordered a plug repair kit 
> from the warrior wymyns and did the repair today. It is not easy getting the 
> plug stuff in. I reamed it with the reamer tool but the whole was not big 
> enough to get the plug tool and plug stuff in. Got a drill and drilled it a 
> bit bigger then after considerable pushing and grunting it went in. I’m 
> pumping it up now. I hope it works, I don’t feel like buying another tire or 
> pair. 
> 
> It was a 8d nail 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] AC Overcharged Question!!!

Exactly.

-D

> On May 28, 2023, at 5:07 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah the best way to be sure it's right is to vacuum the system down to 
> empty, then recharge with the specified amount of refrigerant by weight. This 
> is what a good AC shop would do. If the system doesn't cool properly after 
> that, you have other problems.
> 
> Most of us at home probably don't have a refrigerant recovery system and I 
> personally prefer not to vent the refrigerant into the air, though logically 
> I know it's not enough to harm anything and technically it is illegal to do 
> so. So I just look at the pressures and add refrigerant (slowly) until they 
> look about right.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 28, 2023, at 15:26, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> AC is all about pressures and temperatures. It’s not something you can 
>> guess at and expect a specific outcome.
>> 
>> And just as an aside, I suspect the 10 degrees comment was an 
>> embellishment rather than an exact reading. These systems have a low 
>> temperature cutout that would shut off the compressor if the evaporator 
>> freezes or temperature gets below a setpoint.
>> 
>> There was a hack for the W126 chassis cars I used to do to mine:
>> 
>> The compressor cutout on these was a mechanical switch connected to a 
>> capillary tube that was positioned between the evaporator fins in the 
>> heater box. It’s easy to remove. I think they typically cut out at 40F 
>> or maybe slightly below that. You could recalibrate them by putting the 
>> capillary into a glass of crushed ice/water to get it down to near 
>> freezing. Using a test light or an ohmmeter, you calibrated the switch 
>> to open at the lower temperature.
>> 
>> Made a big difference in places like Florida, believe me!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 28, 2023, at 3:50 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't think a car AC will ever blow as cold as 10 degrees F. How are you 
>>> measuring these temps?
>>> 
>>> One can is probably not enough to damage anything, but if you're worried 
>>> don't run the AC until you get a working pressure gauge, ideally a set that 
>>> measures low and high side pressures. Harbor Freight sells them.
>>> 
>>> https://www.harborfreight.com/r134a-ac-manifold-gauge-set-58776.html
>>> 
>>> You can then compare your readings to a chart such as this one.
>>> 
>>> https://jamcoautoparts.com/systempressuretroubleshootingchart/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, May 28, 2023, at 14:34, Robert Koziak via Mercedes wrote:
 Hi All,
I just went to charge my 2011 Mercedes C300.  The vents were 
 blowing 45 degrees F so I knew it needed some R134.  The 134A adapter I 
 used has a faulty gauge!  I used about one can and the vents were 
 blowing 10 degrees F after I charged the system.  Did I overfill the 
 system and should I let some out?
Don't want to cause damage...help!  I will buy a new 
 gauge tomorrow and check.  
  Thanks in advance!
 Bob K
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] AC Overcharged Question!!!

Yeah the best way to be sure it's right is to vacuum the system down to empty, 
then recharge with the specified amount of refrigerant by weight. This is what 
a good AC shop would do. If the system doesn't cool properly after that, you 
have other problems.

Most of us at home probably don't have a refrigerant recovery system and I 
personally prefer not to vent the refrigerant into the air, though logically I 
know it's not enough to harm anything and technically it is illegal to do so. 
So I just look at the pressures and add refrigerant (slowly) until they look 
about right.



On Sun, May 28, 2023, at 15:26, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> AC is all about pressures and temperatures. It’s not something you can 
> guess at and expect a specific outcome.
>
> And just as an aside, I suspect the 10 degrees comment was an 
> embellishment rather than an exact reading. These systems have a low 
> temperature cutout that would shut off the compressor if the evaporator 
> freezes or temperature gets below a setpoint.
>
> There was a hack for the W126 chassis cars I used to do to mine:
>
> The compressor cutout on these was a mechanical switch connected to a 
> capillary tube that was positioned between the evaporator fins in the 
> heater box. It’s easy to remove. I think they typically cut out at 40F 
> or maybe slightly below that. You could recalibrate them by putting the 
> capillary into a glass of crushed ice/water to get it down to near 
> freezing. Using a test light or an ohmmeter, you calibrated the switch 
> to open at the lower temperature.
>
> Made a big difference in places like Florida, believe me!
>
> -D
>
>> On May 28, 2023, at 3:50 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't think a car AC will ever blow as cold as 10 degrees F. How are you 
>> measuring these temps?
>> 
>> One can is probably not enough to damage anything, but if you're worried 
>> don't run the AC until you get a working pressure gauge, ideally a set that 
>> measures low and high side pressures. Harbor Freight sells them.
>> 
>> https://www.harborfreight.com/r134a-ac-manifold-gauge-set-58776.html
>> 
>> You can then compare your readings to a chart such as this one.
>> 
>> https://jamcoautoparts.com/systempressuretroubleshootingchart/
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, May 28, 2023, at 14:34, Robert Koziak via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>> I just went to charge my 2011 Mercedes C300.  The vents were 
>>> blowing 45 degrees F so I knew it needed some R134.  The 134A adapter I 
>>> used has a faulty gauge!  I used about one can and the vents were 
>>> blowing 10 degrees F after I charged the system.  Did I overfill the 
>>> system and should I let some out?
>>> Don't want to cause damage...help!  I will buy a new 
>>> gauge tomorrow and check.  
>>>   Thanks in advance!
>>> Bob K
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tire plug

2023-05-28 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

This one has a little tube of rubber cement with it and the plug things are 
kinda sticky.  Coat the plug with the cement and push it in. I finally got it 
in there and pumped up the tire, did a soapy water test and no bubbles. I’ll 
see how it holds. 

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On May 28, 2023, at 4:34 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yikes! That’s quite the spike!
> 
> I’ve plugged a few tires for the eldest son. Got the kit and the strip of 
> plugs with the tool. A tire guy told me years ago that the trick to a good 
> plug was to use the vulcanizing compound you get in a can with it, like 
> slather the plug. It goes in easier and seals great!
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/Xtra-Seal-Chemical-Vulcanizing-Cement-oz/dp/B01J47PO8W/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=vulcanizing+cement+for+tire+patches&qid=1685305989&sprefix=vulcanizing+%2Caps%2C138&sr=8-2
> 
> I don’t recall eldest son ever having an issue with any of the tires we 
> plugged for him.
> 
> -D
> 
> On May 28, 2023, at 4:28 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> I found a nail in a tire on the GL the other day. Ordered a plug repair kit 
> from the warrior wymyns and did the repair today. It is not easy getting the 
> plug stuff in. I reamed it with the reamer tool but the whole was not big 
> enough to get the plug tool and plug stuff in. Got a drill and drilled it a 
> bit bigger then after considerable pushing and grunting it went in. I’m 
> pumping it up now. I hope it works, I don’t feel like buying another tire or 
> pair.
> 
> It was a 8d nail
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
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Re: [MBZ] AC Overcharged Question!!!

2023-05-28 Thread Robert Koziak via Mercedes

Thanks for the quick replies!  I borrowed another digital temperature gauge 
from a neighbor and the readings were consistently between 26 F and 36 F at 
"max cold" when checked at the four vents.  I suspect the digital Temperature 
Gauge I had was giving faulty readings too.
The AC feels great but I was just concerned about an overfill causing problems. 
 Tomorrow time to buy new gauges and recheck everything.  
Have a great Memorial Day!
Bob K

-Original Message-
From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
To: Okie Benz 
Cc: dan penoff.com 
Sent: Sun, May 28, 2023 4:26 pm
Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC Overcharged Question!!!

AC is all about pressures and temperatures. It’s not something you can guess at 
and expect a specific outcome.

And just as an aside, I suspect the 10 degrees comment was an embellishment 
rather than an exact reading. These systems have a low temperature cutout that 
would shut off the compressor if the evaporator freezes or temperature gets 
below a setpoint.

There was a hack for the W126 chassis cars I used to do to mine:

The compressor cutout on these was a mechanical switch connected to a capillary 
tube that was positioned between the evaporator fins in the heater box. It’s 
easy to remove. I think they typically cut out at 40F or maybe slightly below 
that. You could recalibrate them by putting the capillary into a glass of 
crushed ice/water to get it down to near freezing. Using a test light or an 
ohmmeter, you calibrated the switch to open at the lower temperature.

Made a big difference in places like Florida, believe me!

-D

> On May 28, 2023, at 3:50 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't think a car AC will ever blow as cold as 10 degrees F. How are you 
> measuring these temps?
> 
> One can is probably not enough to damage anything, but if you're worried 
> don't run the AC until you get a working pressure gauge, ideally a set that 
> measures low and high side pressures. Harbor Freight sells them.
> 
> https://www.harborfreight.com/r134a-ac-manifold-gauge-set-58776.html
> 
> You can then compare your readings to a chart such as this one.
> 
> https://jamcoautoparts.com/systempressuretroubleshootingchart/
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 28, 2023, at 14:34, Robert Koziak via Mercedes wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>    I just went to charge my 2011 Mercedes C300.  The vents were 
>> blowing 45 degrees F so I knew it needed some R134.  The 134A adapter I 
>> used has a faulty gauge!  I used about one can and the vents were 
>> blowing 10 degrees F after I charged the system.  Did I overfill the 
>> system and should I let some out?
>>    Don't want to cause damage...help!  I will buy a new 
>> gauge tomorrow and check.  
>>  Thanks in advance!
>> Bob K
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Re: [MBZ] Tire plug

Yikes! That’s quite the spike!

I’ve plugged a few tires for the eldest son. Got the kit and the strip of plugs
with the tool. A tire guy told me years ago that the trick to a good plug was
to use the vulcanizing compound you get in a can with it, like slather the
plug. It goes in easier and seals great!

https://www.amazon.com/Xtra-Seal-Chemical-Vulcanizing-Cement-oz/dp/B01J47PO8W/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=vulcanizing+cement+for+tire+patches&qid=1685305989&sprefix=vulcanizing+%2Caps%2C138&sr=8-2

I don’t recall eldest son ever having an issue with any of the tires we plugged
for him.

-D

On May 28, 2023, at 4:28 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

I found a nail in a tire on the GL the other day. Ordered a plug repair kit
from the warrior wymyns and did the repair today. It is not easy getting the
plug stuff in. I reamed it with the reamer tool but the whole was not big
enough to get the plug tool and plug stuff in. Got a drill and drilled it a bit
bigger then after considerable pushing and grunting it went in. I’m pumping it
up now. I hope it works, I don’t feel like buying another tire or pair.

It was a 8d nail

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Re: [MBZ] A Random 280E

I seem to recall M110s having issues with the head, like valve guides that wore 
out or something like that, much like the M103s? I know they were pretty 
high-revving machines as I recall. Never owned one, saw/wrenched on a few, both 
fuel injected and carbureted.

-D

> On May 28, 2023, at 1:52 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The M110 is a stout engine, I think mine overheated, the girl I bought it 
> from drove it after the belt came off not knowing any better 😢
> 
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>> On May 28, 2023, at 1:25 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Most of the petrol W123s probably reached the point of needing a full 
>> engine overhaul and were junked.
>> 
>> The diesels go for a MILLION MILES as we all know.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sun, May 28, 2023, at 12:19, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Don’t see many 280Es extant. 
>>> I’ve never had a petrol W123.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
> On May 28, 2023, at 10:13 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Looks pretty decent for the $$$.
 
 -D
 
> On May 28, 2023, at 1:06 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3496986800571735/
 
 This is kind of interesting.
 
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Re: [MBZ] AC Overcharged Question!!!

AC is all about pressures and temperatures. It’s not something you can guess at 
and expect a specific outcome.

And just as an aside, I suspect the 10 degrees comment was an embellishment 
rather than an exact reading. These systems have a low temperature cutout that 
would shut off the compressor if the evaporator freezes or temperature gets 
below a setpoint.

There was a hack for the W126 chassis cars I used to do to mine:

The compressor cutout on these was a mechanical switch connected to a capillary 
tube that was positioned between the evaporator fins in the heater box. It’s 
easy to remove. I think they typically cut out at 40F or maybe slightly below 
that. You could recalibrate them by putting the capillary into a glass of 
crushed ice/water to get it down to near freezing. Using a test light or an 
ohmmeter, you calibrated the switch to open at the lower temperature.

Made a big difference in places like Florida, believe me!

-D

> On May 28, 2023, at 3:50 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> 
> I don't think a car AC will ever blow as cold as 10 degrees F. How are you 
> measuring these temps?
> 
> One can is probably not enough to damage anything, but if you're worried 
> don't run the AC until you get a working pressure gauge, ideally a set that 
> measures low and high side pressures. Harbor Freight sells them.
> 
> https://www.harborfreight.com/r134a-ac-manifold-gauge-set-58776.html
> 
> You can then compare your readings to a chart such as this one.
> 
> https://jamcoautoparts.com/systempressuretroubleshootingchart/
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 28, 2023, at 14:34, Robert Koziak via Mercedes wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> I just went to charge my 2011 Mercedes C300.  The vents were 
>> blowing 45 degrees F so I knew it needed some R134.  The 134A adapter I 
>> used has a faulty gauge!  I used about one can and the vents were 
>> blowing 10 degrees F after I charged the system.  Did I overfill the 
>> system and should I let some out?
>> Don't want to cause damage...help!  I will buy a new 
>> gauge tomorrow and check.  
>>   Thanks in advance!
>> Bob K
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Re: [MBZ] AC Overcharged Question!!!

I don't think a car AC will ever blow as cold as 10 degrees F. How are you 
measuring these temps?

One can is probably not enough to damage anything, but if you're worried don't 
run the AC until you get a working pressure gauge, ideally a set that measures 
low and high side pressures. Harbor Freight sells them.

https://www.harborfreight.com/r134a-ac-manifold-gauge-set-58776.html

You can then compare your readings to a chart such as this one.

https://jamcoautoparts.com/systempressuretroubleshootingchart/

On Sun, May 28, 2023, at 14:34, Robert Koziak via Mercedes wrote:
> Hi All,
>     I just went to charge my 2011 Mercedes C300.  The vents were 
> blowing 45 degrees F so I knew it needed some R134.  The 134A adapter I 
> used has a faulty gauge!  I used about one can and the vents were 
> blowing 10 degrees F after I charged the system.  Did I overfill the 
> system and should I let some out?
>     Don't want to cause damage...help!  I will buy a new 
> gauge tomorrow and check.  
>   Thanks in advance!
> Bob K

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[MBZ] AC Overcharged Question!!!

2023-05-28 Thread Robert Koziak via Mercedes

Hi All,
    I just went to charge my 2011 Mercedes C300.  The vents were blowing 45 
degrees F so I knew it needed some R134.  The 134A adapter I used has a faulty 
gauge!  I used about one can and the vents were blowing 10 degrees F after I 
charged the system.  Did I overfill the system and should I let some out?
    Don't want to cause damage...help!  I will buy a new gauge 
tomorrow and check.  
  Thanks in advance!
Bob K
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Re: [MBZ] A Random 280E

Someone who buys a diesel engine car is in my mind already more mechanically 
involved and invested in the car than someone who buys a gasoline engine car.

A new gasoline engine Mercedes is a status symbol, a fashion accessory.

A diesel engine Mercedes is a considered purchase, by someone who has at least 
enough interest in the engine to choose it.

The owner of a diesel Mercedes probably would know better than to drive it 
after the belt came off.


On Sun, May 28, 2023, at 12:52, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> The M110 is a stout engine, I think mine overheated, the girl I bought 
> it from drove it after the belt came off not knowing any better 😢
>
> --FT
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>> On May 28, 2023, at 1:25 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Most of the petrol W123s probably reached the point of needing a full 
>> engine overhaul and were junked.
>> 
>> The diesels go for a MILLION MILES as we all know.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sun, May 28, 2023, at 12:19, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Don’t see many 280Es extant. 
>>> I’ve never had a petrol W123.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
> On May 28, 2023, at 10:13 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Looks pretty decent for the $$$.
 
 -D
 
> On May 28, 2023, at 1:06 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3496986800571735/
 
 This is kind of interesting.
 
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Re: [MBZ] A Random 280E

2023-05-28 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

The M110 is a stout engine, I think mine overheated, the girl I bought it from 
drove it after the belt came off not knowing any better 😢

--FT
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> On May 28, 2023, at 1:25 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Most of the petrol W123s probably reached the point of needing a full engine 
> overhaul and were junked.
> 
> The diesels go for a MILLION MILES as we all know.
> 
> 
>> On Sun, May 28, 2023, at 12:19, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> Don’t see many 280Es extant. 
>> I’ve never had a petrol W123.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
 On May 28, 2023, at 10:13 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Looks pretty decent for the $$$.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On May 28, 2023, at 1:06 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3496986800571735/
>>> 
>>> This is kind of interesting.
>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] A Random 280E

I have one of those.  Needs a head gasket I think but it runs OK, floor 
pans rusted out but otherwise looks pretty good


--FT

On 5/28/23 1:19 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

Don’t see many 280Es extant.
I’ve never had a petrol W123.

AZBob

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On May 28, 2023, at 10:13 AM, dan penoff.com via 
Mercedes  wrote:

Looks pretty decent for the $$$.

-D

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3496986800571735/

This is kind of interesting.

AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] A Random 280E

Most of the petrol W123s probably reached the point of needing a full engine 
overhaul and were junked.

The diesels go for a MILLION MILES as we all know.


On Sun, May 28, 2023, at 12:19, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> Don’t see many 280Es extant. 
> I’ve never had a petrol W123.
>
> AZBob
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On May 28, 2023, at 10:13 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Looks pretty decent for the $$$.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On May 28, 2023, at 1:06 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3496986800571735/
>> 
>> This is kind of interesting.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] A Random 280E

2023-05-28 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes

Don’t see many 280Es extant. 
I’ve never had a petrol W123.

AZBob

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> On May 28, 2023, at 10:13 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Looks pretty decent for the $$$.
> 
> -D
> 
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3496986800571735/
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Re: [MBZ] A Random 280E

Looks pretty decent for the $$$.

-D

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3496986800571735/

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[MBZ] A Random 280E

2023-05-28 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3496986800571735/ This is kind of interesting. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes S550 - 84k miles - $21,999

He bought it at the auction for $2k and is now trying to make $20k.  
Definitely drug-related


--FT

On 5/28/23 12:26 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Hallucinogens?

https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbus-owner/7626186838.html
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[MBZ] 2003 E320 - 226k miles - $2,850

Looks pretty nice other than the higher miles and Chinese tires. Probably not 
too bad a deal.

https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/grove-city-2003-mercedes-benz-e320/7626208269.html
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[MBZ] Mercedes S550 - 84k miles - $21,999

Hallucinogens?

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[MBZ] For someone who works on cars. 1995 Mercedes E320 - $900 (Riverside Heights)


You should have extensive knowledge of cars or car parts.

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-1995-mercedes-e320/7626007400.html

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[MBZ] needs a new spark plug, brake rodars, 2005 Mercedes-Benz clk-class CLK 320 Coupe 2D, $1, 100


My flip phone was not taking good pitchers today

So yes it has work that needs to be done but if you like older Mercedes 
that look decent and are ok with a little bit of a project (and for this 
price) than this would be good for you. (It does have a salvaged vehicle 
title)


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/179435955082678

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[MBZ] 1960 Mercedes 180B. 1960 Mercedes-Benz b-class,$12,500