Re: [MBZ] Some nice car haulers might be on the market soon?

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I keep seeing that used car prices are dropping 

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> Online used car seller Vroom is collapsing and selling off existing stock to 
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Re: [MBZ] Dirt cheap '87 turbo on BAT

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Sue his ass!

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> On Jan 28, 2024, at 10:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> And the poor sod who was the high bidder really needed the car, too.  (a
> fellow Canadian)
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>> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 10:05 PM M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> BLAME CANADA!
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip5OWcoE6GE
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 8:53 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Read the comments.  Seller told the high bidder that the price was too
>>> cheap and reneged on the deal.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 9:48 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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 Sold for $2,350
 
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> Some deal, eh?  Maybe not - seller pulled the car.
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Re: [MBZ] Dirt cheap '87 turbo on BAT

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And the poor sod who was the high bidder really needed the car, too.  (a
fellow Canadian)

On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 10:05 PM M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
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> BLAME CANADA!
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip5OWcoE6GE
>
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> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 8:53 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > Read the comments.  Seller told the high bidder that the price was too
> > cheap and reneged on the deal.
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 9:48 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Sold for $2,350
> > >
> > > --FT
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> > > > Some deal, eh?  Maybe not - seller pulled the car.
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[MBZ] Some nice car haulers might be on the market soon?

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Online used car seller Vroom is collapsing and selling off existing stock to 
wholesalers.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/online-use-car-seller-vroom-collapses-as-sales-fall-losses-mount
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Re: [MBZ] Dirt cheap '87 turbo on BAT

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I guess Canadians don’t understand what a no reserve auction is. 

AZBob

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>> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 8:53 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Read the comments.  Seller told the high bidder that the price was too
>> cheap and reneged on the deal.
>> 
>> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 9:48 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Sold for $2,350
>>> 
>>> --FT
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>>> 
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 Some deal, eh?  Maybe not - seller pulled the car.
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Re: [MBZ] W210 Crankshaft Position Sensor - 1998 E320 Wagon

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>> Amazing what driving in the Tri-State area (Chicago) can do to a car, even 
>> though it was kept clean. Rick knows this all too well, I’m sure.
>
> Yep. A heated garage just catalyzes the rusting process.

Correct. If you drive in salt best to leave the car in the cold until you can 
give it a thorough rinsing. Even then you won't get all of it, capillary action 
draws the salt into every crevice.

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Re: [MBZ] Dirt cheap '87 turbo on BAT

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BLAME CANADA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip5OWcoE6GE


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> Read the comments.  Seller told the high bidder that the price was too
> cheap and reneged on the deal.
>
> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 9:48 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> > Sold for $2,350
> >
> > --FT
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> > > On Jan 28, 2024, at 8:50 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> > >
> > > Some deal, eh?  Maybe not - seller pulled the car.
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Re: [MBZ] Dirt cheap '87 turbo on BAT

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> Read the comments. Seller told the high bidder that the price was too
cheap and reneged on the deal.

What a dick.

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Re: [MBZ] Dirt cheap '87 turbo on BAT

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Read the comments.  Seller told the high bidder that the price was too
cheap and reneged on the deal.

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> Sold for $2,350
>
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Dirt cheap '87 turbo on BAT

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Sold for $2,350

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Re: [MBZ] W210 Crankshaft Position Sensor - 1998 E320 Wagon

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> Amazing what driving in the Tri-State area (Chicago) can do to a car, even 
> though it was kept clean. Rick knows this all too well, I’m sure.

Yep. A heated garage just catalyzes the rusting process.


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Re: [MBZ] AZ BOB

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Averages to over 27,000 miles/year, or 560 miles/week.

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Re: [MBZ] AZ BOB

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That’s been for sale before. I remember the seats and the random blue cord. 
When it was for sale before I don’t think it had the glow plug issues. 

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Re: [MBZ] new reckon pinion steering, 2002 Mercedes S600 - $3, 000 (Carolina Beach)

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Could be a scam...

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> Correct
>
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> > You mean “tempting I rack and”
> >
> > AZBob
> >
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> >>
> >> Tempting I reckon
> >>
> >>
> https://wilmington.craigslist.org/cto/d/carolina-beach-2002-mercedes-s600/7711083026.html
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Very rare green with green top. 2002 Mercedes CLK 320 Convertible Low Miles - $5, 000 (Hilton Head)

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Looks very bottom of the line-ish.

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> Convertible top will not retract, but has worked in the recent past.
> Decided to sell vehicle rather than investigate top issues. Nice car for
> the money. Can be updated with a little effort and $$.
>
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[MBZ] AZ BOB

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[MBZ] Dirt cheap '87 turbo on BAT

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Some deal, eh?  Maybe not - seller pulled the car.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1987-mercedes-benz-300d-turbo-3/
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Re: [MBZ] W210 Crankshaft Position Sensor - 1998 E320 Wagon

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I can’t even remember rusty cars. It’s such a treat getting under a car and it 
looks basically new

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> Well. it wasn’t a complete “win” today. I went at the 2003 E320’s front 
> brakes without any luck. The retaining screw on the driver’s rotor was 
> buggered up. I tried my best after letting it soak for 30 minutes with the 
> majik elixer but to no avail. I gave it another spritz to keep it soaking and 
> I’ll take another swing at it later.
> 
> Amazing what driving in the Tri-State area (Chicago) can do to a car, even 
> though it was kept clean. Rick knows this all too well, I’m sure.
> 
> -D
> 
> On Jan 28, 2024, at 6:46 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> I ran into that with the 99E320, ordered one and it didn’t fit so dug into it 
> and found the serial number aspect. Got the right one and all was good
> 
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> On Jan 28, 2024, at 3:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> Swapped out the offending part this afternoon, which took all of maybe 10 
> minutes, if that. I’ve done plenty of these in the past, but this one was the 
> worst due to one of the connector release tabs being right up against the 
> back of the block.
> 
> Beware if you are a W210 owner: There are at least two different CPS’ used by 
> Mercedes with the M112/W210, and pre-facelift, with a serial number break 
> based on engine number, have a different CPS than later models. That said, 
> they look identical on the outside, but the inside of the connector housing 
> on the CPS is different, that is, they are “keyed” differently inside:
> 
> 
> [CPS Early.jpg]
> 
> 
> If you look closely, you’ll see three “keys” inside the connector hood. The 
> arrangement of these keys determines whether it is the “early” or “late” CPS. 
> The part number for the early CPS (the one shown here) is 003-153-96-28. I 
> believe the later part is a 003-153-28-28, but always verify with the EPC or 
> a trusted parts supplier before ordering using your VIN. The later part is 
> keyed similarly, but the keys are in a mirror image to the early part, that 
> is, their orientation is reversed. I’ve kept the later part on the shelf with 
> several M112-powered cars in the fleet, not realizing there were variants.
> 
> I would be willing to bet that in a pinch either would work after you cut or 
> scraped the keys out of the connector hood or just cut it off completely (not 
> advised.)
> 
> As for the post-mortem, this is what we found:
> 
> The CPS installed in the car was an OE part but was not original. I say that 
> because someone took the trouble to schmear (and yes, that’s a technical term 
> as you’ll soon discover) anit-seize on the barrel of the CPS. I used the term 
> “schmear” because the amount of anti-seize they used was, to put it bluntly, 
> excessive. These are held and centered in the bore drilled into the bell 
> housing with three small ribs that are molded into the case of the part. The 
> barrel of the CPS never touches the bore. Worse, upon closer inspection, as 
> one would expect, the anti-seize, which as we all know is mostly grease with 
> aluminum powder mixed into it among other things, had leaked down the length 
> of the CPS, covering the end and no doubt dripping into the bell housing and 
> onto the flywheel.
> 
> Being very familiar with similar devices used for monitoring speed on 
> industrial engines, I would point out that any foreign material on the end of 
> the CPS is a Bad Thing, Even Worse when it's something metallic, even 
> aluminum. Essentially, that mess on the end of the CPS “shorts” out the 
> magnetic circuit that the CPS uses to work, either disabling it or making the 
> signal marginal or intermittent.
> 
> I suspect this was the issue with this failure. Interestingly, it never 
> occurred a second time. That and it failed late at night on a cold evening 
> after the car had been parked for several hours, so it certainly wasn’t heat 
> that caused the failure, which is what I have experienced with these failures 
> in the past.
> 
> Finally, to give you an idea of how critical the signal this device provides 
> is, my son reports that it drives like a different vehicle. He said the 
> engine runs smoother, shifts are crisper and timely, where they had been 
> occasionally wonky, and in general, the car just runs better. While I’m sure 
> there’s some placebo effect here, I believe him in what he describes. I have 
> to believe all the crud on the end of the CPS was seriously degrading its 
> output.
> 
> While I wouldn’t use my findings as a determination for the CPS to be 
> replaced regularly, it can’t hurt to pull it and inspect the end to make sure 
> it’s clean. That was an inspection item for an industrial engine when I 
> worked on them. Why? Because something as simple as a shaving from a flywheel 
> 

Re: [MBZ] OT Check out those Dagmars!!! -- 1953 Cadillac fleetwood, $4, 500

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Series 62 Fleetwood, my absolute favorite Cadillac model. There is probably 
enough chrome on that car to provide plating for 1,000 modern cars (if they 
even used chrome anymore!)

The cherry on top would be if it was a limo with a divider window. That is the 
top of my list.

-D

> On Jan 28, 2024, at 11:45 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'd love to polish those big bumpers!  rub... rub... rub...
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/720064683527153
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W210 Crankshaft Position Sensor - 1998 E320 Wagon

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Well. it wasn’t a complete “win” today. I went at the 2003 E320’s front brakes 
without any luck. The retaining screw on the driver’s rotor was buggered up. I 
tried my best after letting it soak for 30 minutes with the majik elixer but to 
no avail. I gave it another spritz to keep it soaking and I’ll take another 
swing at it later.

Amazing what driving in the Tri-State area (Chicago) can do to a car, even 
though it was kept clean. Rick knows this all too well, I’m sure.

-D

On Jan 28, 2024, at 6:46 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I ran into that with the 99E320, ordered one and it didn’t fit so dug into it 
and found the serial number aspect. Got the right one and all was good

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On Jan 28, 2024, at 3:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Swapped out the offending part this afternoon, which took all of maybe 10 
minutes, if that. I’ve done plenty of these in the past, but this one was the 
worst due to one of the connector release tabs being right up against the back 
of the block.

Beware if you are a W210 owner: There are at least two different CPS’ used by 
Mercedes with the M112/W210, and pre-facelift, with a serial number break based 
on engine number, have a different CPS than later models. That said, they look 
identical on the outside, but the inside of the connector housing on the CPS is 
different, that is, they are “keyed” differently inside:


[CPS Early.jpg]


If you look closely, you’ll see three “keys” inside the connector hood. The 
arrangement of these keys determines whether it is the “early” or “late” CPS. 
The part number for the early CPS (the one shown here) is 003-153-96-28. I 
believe the later part is a 003-153-28-28, but always verify with the EPC or a 
trusted parts supplier before ordering using your VIN. The later part is keyed 
similarly, but the keys are in a mirror image to the early part, that is, their 
orientation is reversed. I’ve kept the later part on the shelf with several 
M112-powered cars in the fleet, not realizing there were variants.

I would be willing to bet that in a pinch either would work after you cut or 
scraped the keys out of the connector hood or just cut it off completely (not 
advised.)

As for the post-mortem, this is what we found:

The CPS installed in the car was an OE part but was not original. I say that 
because someone took the trouble to schmear (and yes, that’s a technical term 
as you’ll soon discover) anit-seize on the barrel of the CPS. I used the term 
“schmear” because the amount of anti-seize they used was, to put it bluntly, 
excessive. These are held and centered in the bore drilled into the bell 
housing with three small ribs that are molded into the case of the part. The 
barrel of the CPS never touches the bore. Worse, upon closer inspection, as one 
would expect, the anti-seize, which as we all know is mostly grease with 
aluminum powder mixed into it among other things, had leaked down the length of 
the CPS, covering the end and no doubt dripping into the bell housing and onto 
the flywheel.

Being very familiar with similar devices used for monitoring speed on 
industrial engines, I would point out that any foreign material on the end of 
the CPS is a Bad Thing, Even Worse when it's something metallic, even aluminum. 
Essentially, that mess on the end of the CPS “shorts” out the magnetic circuit 
that the CPS uses to work, either disabling it or making the signal marginal or 
intermittent.

I suspect this was the issue with this failure. Interestingly, it never 
occurred a second time. That and it failed late at night on a cold evening 
after the car had been parked for several hours, so it certainly wasn’t heat 
that caused the failure, which is what I have experienced with these failures 
in the past.

Finally, to give you an idea of how critical the signal this device provides 
is, my son reports that it drives like a different vehicle. He said the engine 
runs smoother, shifts are crisper and timely, where they had been occasionally 
wonky, and in general, the car just runs better. While I’m sure there’s some 
placebo effect here, I believe him in what he describes. I have to believe all 
the crud on the end of the CPS was seriously degrading its output.

While I wouldn’t use my findings as a determination for the CPS to be replaced 
regularly, it can’t hurt to pull it and inspect the end to make sure it’s 
clean. That was an inspection item for an industrial engine when I worked on 
them. Why? Because something as simple as a shaving from a flywheel tooth when 
it meshes with the starter Bendix could short out a CPS - and that metal core 
in the center of it *is* magnetic!

And now to the front brakes on the 2003 E320...

-D

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Re: [MBZ] new reckon pinion steering, 2002 Mercedes S600 - $3, 000 (Carolina Beach)

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Correct 

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> On Jan 28, 2024, at 1:15 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You mean “tempting I rack and”
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2024, at 9:54 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Tempting I reckon
>> 
>> https://wilmington.craigslist.org/cto/d/carolina-beach-2002-mercedes-s600/7711083026.html
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Re: [MBZ] W210 Crankshaft Position Sensor - 1998 E320 Wagon

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I ran into that with the 99E320, ordered one and it didn’t fit so dug into it 
and found the serial number aspect. Got the right one and all was good 

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> On Jan 28, 2024, at 3:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Swapped out the offending part this afternoon, which took all of maybe 10 
> minutes, if that. I’ve done plenty of these in the past, but this one was the 
> worst due to one of the connector release tabs being right up against the 
> back of the block.
> 
> Beware if you are a W210 owner: There are at least two different CPS’ used by 
> Mercedes with the M112/W210, and pre-facelift, with a serial number break 
> based on engine number, have a different CPS than later models. That said, 
> they look identical on the outside, but the inside of the connector housing 
> on the CPS is different, that is, they are “keyed” differently inside:
> 
> 
> [CPS Early.jpg]
> 
> 
> If you look closely, you’ll see three “keys” inside the connector hood. The 
> arrangement of these keys determines whether it is the “early” or “late” CPS. 
> The part number for the early CPS (the one shown here) is 003-153-96-28. I 
> believe the later part is a 003-153-28-28, but always verify with the EPC or 
> a trusted parts supplier before ordering using your VIN. The later part is 
> keyed similarly, but the keys are in a mirror image to the early part, that 
> is, their orientation is reversed. I’ve kept the later part on the shelf with 
> several M112-powered cars in the fleet, not realizing there were variants.
> 
> I would be willing to bet that in a pinch either would work after you cut or 
> scraped the keys out of the connector hood or just cut it off completely (not 
> advised.)
> 
> As for the post-mortem, this is what we found:
> 
> The CPS installed in the car was an OE part but was not original. I say that 
> because someone took the trouble to schmear (and yes, that’s a technical term 
> as you’ll soon discover) anit-seize on the barrel of the CPS. I used the term 
> “schmear” because the amount of anti-seize they used was, to put it bluntly, 
> excessive. These are held and centered in the bore drilled into the bell 
> housing with three small ribs that are molded into the case of the part. The 
> barrel of the CPS never touches the bore. Worse, upon closer inspection, as 
> one would expect, the anti-seize, which as we all know is mostly grease with 
> aluminum powder mixed into it among other things, had leaked down the length 
> of the CPS, covering the end and no doubt dripping into the bell housing and 
> onto the flywheel.
> 
> Being very familiar with similar devices used for monitoring speed on 
> industrial engines, I would point out that any foreign material on the end of 
> the CPS is a Bad Thing, Even Worse when it's something metallic, even 
> aluminum. Essentially, that mess on the end of the CPS “shorts” out the 
> magnetic circuit that the CPS uses to work, either disabling it or making the 
> signal marginal or intermittent.
> 
> I suspect this was the issue with this failure. Interestingly, it never 
> occurred a second time. That and it failed late at night on a cold evening 
> after the car had been parked for several hours, so it certainly wasn’t heat 
> that caused the failure, which is what I have experienced with these failures 
> in the past.
> 
> Finally, to give you an idea of how critical the signal this device provides 
> is, my son reports that it drives like a different vehicle. He said the 
> engine runs smoother, shifts are crisper and timely, where they had been 
> occasionally wonky, and in general, the car just runs better. While I’m sure 
> there’s some placebo effect here, I believe him in what he describes. I have 
> to believe all the crud on the end of the CPS was seriously degrading its 
> output.
> 
> While I wouldn’t use my findings as a determination for the CPS to be 
> replaced regularly, it can’t hurt to pull it and inspect the end to make sure 
> it’s clean. That was an inspection item for an industrial engine when I 
> worked on them. Why? Because something as simple as a shaving from a flywheel 
> tooth when it meshes with the starter Bendix could short out a CPS - and that 
> metal core in the center of it *is* magnetic!
> 
> And now to the front brakes on the 2003 E320...
> 
> -D
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[MBZ] 92 400E

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I have not worked on this for some time after putting in all the new vacuum 
lines and trying to get the ETA rebuilt, which did not happen as it was 
apparently too far gone. There was another one with the car the PO said he got 
off eBay. I cleaned it up really well. 

The little ball joint ball got the throttle plate lever was missing off this 
“new” part. I tried to get the rebuilder guy to send the original back but 
instead he sent back something completely different. So I had to bodge up 
something to see if this ETA might work. 

I got an Allen head screw that actually screwed right into the lever. M5 if I 
recall. I ground it down to something approximating a ball and attached it to 
the lever. This first one I made turned out to be too long for the socket to 
fit over (no clearance Clarence) so I made another one with a shorter screw. 
That one fit. 

Put it on the lever (and I did not have to wrestle the ETA out again which is a 
Houdini sort of maneuver) and popped to socket back on and of course I think I 
ground it down a little too much as it doesn’t want to stay on. But ok for now 
I’ll figure out something else later. 

Got everything pretty much back together more or less, I want to give it a 
test. 

So anyway that was more Benzing today. 






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Re: [MBZ] Price is negotiable - 2005 ML500 - 157k miles - $5,000

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

W163 - hitch can be installed aftermarket - about $200 for necessary parts, a 
couple of hours labor. Easy-peasy, done it a couple of times.

W164 - hitch cannot be installed aftermarket without sizable cost and access to 
an SDS system to program.

-D

> On Jan 28, 2024, at 1:24 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Might be a decent deal. Don't see a tow hitch but that could be added if 
> needed?
> 
> https://chillicothe.craigslist.org/cto/d/jackson-2005-ml500/7712001506.html
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Re: [MBZ] Staggered AMG wheels for the $400 04E500

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Nice!

-D

On Jan 28, 2024, at 2:24 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I got a set (actually 5, 3 wide rears 2 narrower fronts) of staggered 211 
wheels really cheepcheep. Tried a fit on the rear because that’s the only wheel 
that had a tire mounted. It’s worn out anyway but works for test purposes. I 
guess they look OK, the tire is quite a bit wider. The stock 211 wheels look 
pretty nice too but all the same size.






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[MBZ] Price is negotiable - 2005 ML500 - 157k miles - $5,000

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Might be a decent deal. Don't see a tow hitch but that could be added if needed?

https://chillicothe.craigslist.org/cto/d/jackson-2005-ml500/7712001506.html
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Re: [MBZ] new reckon pinion steering, 2002 Mercedes S600 - $3, 000 (Carolina Beach)

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

You mean “tempting I rack and” 

AZBob 

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> On Jan 28, 2024, at 9:54 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Tempting I reckon
> 
> https://wilmington.craigslist.org/cto/d/carolina-beach-2002-mercedes-s600/7711083026.html
> 
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[MBZ] Very rare green with green top. 2002 Mercedes CLK 320 Convertible Low Miles - $5, 000 (Hilton Head)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Convertible top will not retract, but has worked in the recent past. 
Decided to sell vehicle rather than investigate top issues. Nice car for 
the money. Can be updated with a little effort and $$.


https://hiltonhead.craigslist.org/cto/d/hilton-head-island-2002-mercedes-clk/7711465533.html

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[MBZ] Designo Mocha Black 2007 Mercedes CL 550 - $15,500 (Greer)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

yummy

https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/greer-mercedes/7710837257.html

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[MBZ] new reckon pinion steering, 2002 Mercedes S600 - $3, 000 (Carolina Beach)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Tempting I reckon

https://wilmington.craigslist.org/cto/d/carolina-beach-2002-mercedes-s600/7711083026.html

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Re: [MBZ] New years day had as small fire ..cheap cigarette lighter blew up 2003 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 500 Sedan 4D, $1, 000

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I think he means his crack pipe blew up.

On Sun, Jan 28, 2024, at 11:40, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> car won't start must tow 1000 cash asis no I won't go down between head 
> lights and tail lights you could make ya money back or just fix it if 
> posted its available I'll take down when it sells I'm only responding if 
> you ready to get it now..I'm very busy if ya like Benz this a great 
> project..S500 man...
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/302553545708679
>
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[MBZ] OT Check out those Dagmars!!! -- 1953 Cadillac fleetwood, $4, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I'd love to polish those big bumpers!  rub... rub... rub...

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/720064683527153

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[MBZ] New years day had as small fire ..cheap cigarette lighter blew up 2003 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 500 Sedan 4D, $1, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

car won't start must tow 1000 cash asis no I won't go down between head 
lights and tail lights you could make ya money back or just fix it if 
posted its available I'll take down when it sells I'm only responding if 
you ready to get it now..I'm very busy if ya like Benz this a great 
project..S500 man...


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[MBZ] Least of the problems -- One tire will need to be put back on the room. 2006 Mercedes-Benz cls-class CLS 500 Coupe 4D, $2, 700

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Extra 2 in the price

This car has a blown head gasket. We just got a brand new alternator, 
put on and a brand new water pump and hoses. The drivers door window 
does not go down so that will need a window regulator, and the power 
switch on the inside door door does not work, the front driver seat is 
torn but you can get a car seat cover for that. We just don’t want to 
put any more money into the vehicle it has rims on it and low profile 
tires. One tire will need to be put back on the room. We were getting 
the rim fixed. It had a small crack in it.


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/937326451489250/

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Re: [MBZ] Decent ML320 Diesel

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Looks nice, a little high for the miles and years

--FT

On 1/28/24 10:40 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:


[00M0M_hgGcXH1FUX6_0t20CI_600x450.jpg]
2008 Mercedes Benz gl320 diesel for sale by owner - Punta Gorda, FL - 
craigslist
fortmyers.craigslist.org

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[MBZ] Decent ML320 Diesel

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

[00M0M_hgGcXH1FUX6_0t20CI_600x450.jpg]
2008 Mercedes Benz gl320 diesel for sale by owner - Punta Gorda, FL - 
craigslist
fortmyers.craigslist.org

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Kaleb

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Oh yea, I saw that. I talked to him about it a month or so ago from a post he 
had in a different group. Car looks nice but he wants way too much for it.  I 
think he got in over his head with that car. 

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> On Jan 27, 2024, at 11:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That Alex kid posted a 560Sel with heated and reclining rear seats that 
> needs an engine. He wanted $2k. I should've took a screenshot.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: January 27, 2024 6:15 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Kaleb
> 
> What am I supposed to see? Doesn’t pull up anything.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 27, 2024, at 6:04 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Check your Gertrude or Matilda account on FB.
>> 
>> https://m.facebook.com/story.php/?id=1444767035590031_fbid=7107048689361809
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
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