Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT: Transposing trumpet
Had to transpose and sight read at the same time quite often when I made my living in the bars and clubs during my wayward youth in the 60s. But, you don't need to stress over sight reading. Just pick the hymns, or any song, that you want to play and write out the transposition on staff paper (yes, they still sell it.) Trumpet is a B flat instrument; which means that when a piano plays B flat the trumpet plays C natural. Write out the melody one full step above the hymnal and join in the fun. At 11:13 PM 1/7/2009, you wrote: Most trumpet players I know can transpose at sight ;) My college Youse hang out with a better class of musician than I. Actually, there are real musicians out there, then there are the rest of us! I try not to let my lack of ability cut into my fun. trumpet and I always play right out of the hymnal and improvise I can play out of the hymnal, too. But can anyone else play with me? Well yes, if it's a clarinet, tenor sax, etc. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3759 (20090112) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Michael Baker Marketing Consulting Communications P. O. Box 1615 Running Springs, CA 92382-1615 909-867-5960 www.idm-marketing.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hydrogen Power?
It's hard for me to imagine that seemingly rational adults would get taken in by this scam. HHO, 2 molecules of hydrogen and 1 of oxygen, is H2O - WATER! There is no such thing as Brown's Gas. Their device is nothing more than a water injection system. Many people in the automotive aftermarket, most notably George Spears at the old Spearco, have made a living selling water injection systems. They work; but it is very difficult to avoid engine damage. Looking at the system on the website of these 2 guys, my opinion is that many people are going to find engine rebuilds in their near future. After 38 years developing, manufacturing, and marketing performance products accessories (I was also the first US commercial importer of AMG products) I can say unequivocally that this device is a hoax; and, that there has never been a 65 MPG carburetor. Yes I got to play with the Fish carburetor when I was working with induction systems in the seventies - just another metered leak. Having been intimately involved in the search for efficiency and alternative fuels, I can also say that I have never seen any viable technology crushed or otherwise hidden from public view by those evil corporations. Quite the contrary, I see them spending billions of dollars in the quest for efficiency and alternative fuels only to be denigrated by hucksters and socialists. I like Coast to Coast AM; it's a hoot. But, you must be very careful about what you believe. Makes me wonder how much George Noory was paid by these con men for the 3-hour infomercial. A. Michael Baker At 06:06 AM 5/18/2008, you wrote: I've been looking at that and thinking about it for a while. I can't see it either. On the other hand I can see that it might be possible that a small amount of Brown's gas (hydrogen and the oxygen that it was split from) burned in conjunction with gasoline or diesel may possibly improve the combustion process enough to actually give more power and thus more mileage from each gallon of fuel. I have seen the power increase from propane injection on a diesel truck so I can't say that this won't work. Probably will try it sometime once I get some time to play just to see. After all I have a good test bed. Manfred Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 15:55:02 -0500 From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] They are burning hydrogen in the engine. They are using power from the battery to split water into hydrogen oxygen. But where does the power come from that's stored in the battery? From the alternator, right? And the alternator is powered by (drum roll please), the engine? So, it goes like this.. They are using power from the engine to generate electricity, which is used to generate hydrogen, which is then fed back into the engine to generate more power. The issue with this system is that in an absolute perfect, no loss system, the results would be a net zero! In other words, no gain! In the real world, you loose energy with every step in the process Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Michael Baker Marketing Consulting Communications P. O. Box 1615 Running Springs, CA 92382-1615 909-867-5960 www.idm-marketing.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Console question
Start with the ashtray assembly and work your way back. Look carefully and you can see each piece of the puzzle unfold. At 04:32 AM 10/5/2007, you wrote: A quick question for the experts; On an '85 300D how does the center console where the switches are located come up? I can't figure out what is holding it down. I really need to buy a Bentley manual for this vehicle. Thanks for your help. -- Rick Taylor The Old Shop Teacher Smack Dab in the middle of the US Topeka, KS ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Michael Baker Marketing Consulting Communications P. O. Box 1615 Running Springs, CA 92382-1615 909-867-5960 www.idm-marketing.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '77 280SEL
Well maybe not. Newton is a wee bit far from SoCal. Michael At 05:45 AM 10/5/2007, you wrote: Newton, MA IIRC, go on the Boston Craigslist and search for 944. I was actually looking for a different German car and found it by accident. -Curt Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:17:41 -0700 From: Michael Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] '77 280SEL To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed When my wife's 78 280SE was totaled it was like losing a family member. If you don't buy it, I will. Where is it by the way? Michael - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Michael Baker Marketing Consulting Communications P. O. Box 1615 Running Springs, CA 92382-1615 909-867-5960 www.idm-marketing.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '77 280SEL
When my wife's 78 280SE was totaled it was like losing a family member. If you don't buy it, I will. Where is it by the way? Michael At 07:12 PM 10/4/2007, you wrote: The 280 is a double overhead cam 6 cylinder with a hemispherical combustion chamber. Mercedes went to the design to overcome the loss in horsepower caused by the Federal Government emission regulations drop in compression ratio. I've owned three, one 1975 carbureted and 2 1979 FI models. The engines run well but they suffer from oil leaks around the cam carrier the leaks are a royal pain to correct, involving the removal of the upper, then the cam lower carrier to replace the gasket between the lower carrier and the head. This also involves removing the gears from the front of the cams before pulling the lower carrier. Fortunately, you just tie the chain to the gears with wire ties everything lines back up during re-assembly. Also, both of mine needed at least mid-grade gas to not diesel when turned off. I believe that overall, they are good engines. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:48 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] '77 280SEL Listers, Found a '77 280SEL on Craigslist. Picture looks like the 116 chassis which is my favorite and convieniently the wife likes 'em too. Any opinions on the 280? How much gas are we really talking about here? The ad reads Classic Mercedes, well maintained summer car, new tires and stereo, car is tight, high miles. 1500 Or Best Offer -Curt - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Michael Baker Marketing Consulting Communications P. O. Box 1615 Running Springs, CA 92382-1615 909-867-5960 www.idm-marketing.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Satellite Internet connection?
Geez, that's expensive. Factor in snow outages with the cost and I'm thankful that I can get DSL; even if it isn't full speed! At 07:50 AM 6/19/2007, you wrote: Umm, as I recall, Direct is like $600 for the equipment, then $200 for installation and like $70/month for the basic plan. Dish is like $200 for a lease for the equipment(you can get $10/month for 10 months rebate if you're a dish TV customer), then about $50 for the basic plan. Haven't heard anything about non-access periods, but I know he has definitely not had the most reliable connection with his DirectTV. Then again, a lot of that was before he learned about the FAP so he'd download a few windows updates on a couple computers and poof, the connection was all but gone I'm hoping Wildblue will be better... Levi On 6/19/07, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi Do you know the setup/hardware fees and monthly rates? About 3 years ago, I read on a forum about satellite connections that you need to keep a dialup service because of non access periods. Has your boss mentioned that? That brings the question, does anyone have a link to a good forum on the subject? Harry On 6/19/07, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My boss has had DirecTV for a year or so. AFAIK, pretty much all the systems are 2-way now. But, DirecTV(Hughesnet) sucks because of they're FAP (Fair Access Policy). He gets to download 200mb in 24 hours. After that it drops to dialup speed. There are more expensive plans but they still seem to suck pretty bad if you were, you know, like actually going to use your connection to watch a movie or download anything or basically anything besides flip through plain web pages... He's getting Dish Network's service (WildBlue) in about a week. Looks to be a lot better. Something like 7-17GB/month and if you exceed it you still get 128k... I'm thinking about trying to get my parents set up with that too since they are currently paying like $50 for a second phone line and dial-up accesss and due to their distance out, they can't connect at more than about 21K... Levi On 6/18/07, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone connected to one of these? I think there are two choices, but I'm not sure about that. I'll not live long enough to see DSL or cable in the area I live and the ten miles of twisted copper coming my way is getting older as we speak. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Michael Baker Marketing Consulting Communications P. O. Box 1615 Running Springs, CA 92382-1615 909-867-5960 www.idm-marketing.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming
David, I must have made some sense to you as you only objection is semantics. However, there's no confusion here. Climate is merely the tapestry woven by every day's weather. If one is predicting climate then one is merely predicting what the weather will be like over a period of time. Michael At 03:16 PM 2/6/2007, you wrote: Michael Baker wrote: Those guys cannot accurately predict next week's or next year's weather much less weather trends over the next 100 years. You're confusing weather with climate. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Michael Baker Marketing Consulting Communications P. O. Box 1615 Running Springs, CA 92382-1615 909-867-5960 www.idm-marketing.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming
I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person! At 04:46 PM 2/6/2007, you wrote: Michael Baker wrote: David, I must have made some sense to you as you only objection is semantics. However, there's no confusion here. Climate is merely the tapestry woven by every day's weather. If one is predicting climate then one is merely predicting what the weather will be like over a period of time. Not at all. Climate is a long term average over a wide area, and tends to be predictable, whereas day-to-day weather for any given location is chaotic. I point this out because the fact that you don't understand it to me means all your other rationalizations are suspect. To use an automotive example, I can say with pretty high certainty that if I average the fuel economy of my Ford over an entire year, it will get very close to 20 mpg. However, if I try to specify what my fuel economy for any given day is, I could be way off, because I might get stuck in a traffic jam and spend a lot of time idling. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Michael Baker Marketing Consulting Communications P. O. Box 1615 Running Springs, CA 92382-1615 909-867-5960 www.idm-marketing.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming
Mars? ALL of the planets in our solar system are heating up. Maybe all that CO from my Suburban has gone straight to Jupiter. Our sun is supposed to be at a solar minimum and yet it is popping off some of the biggest solar flares ever witnessed by mankind. If warming of the earth is occurring, could that have something to do with it? Melting of the ice caps? There was less sea ice in the arctic during the 1850's that there is today. One could almost sail the fabled northwest passage. Do you think that Greenland's melting glaciers are going to innundate us? How do you think the island came by the name Greenland? When the Vikings settled there much of it was green; not covered fully with ice! The return of ice is what drove them out. Every year the United Nations release a different prediction for sea level rise due to global warming. First it was many feet, then it was a centimeter or two, now it is several inches. The United Nations says that sea levels have risen an average of 0.07 inches over the last 50 years. As this number is smaller than the natural variation of the oceans, environmentalists were actively lobbying the United Nations to up that number beyond the natural variation in the final report so that they could say there's proof that the oceans are rising. Is global warming actually occurring on an unnatural scale? As we have only had the scientific ability to accurately measure global temperature since the late 1970's, what pseudo-scientist can claim larger than natural increases over the last 150 years? The temperatures of the earth's oceans are what drive our climate. Before satellites we only had the haphazard anecdotal evidence of sea captains' temperature measurements as they traveled standard shipping routes. While satellites do see a small rise in sea temperature, in fact there is some scientific evidence that might indicate that the warming is coming from the ocean floor up rather than from the surface down! Worried about the United Nations' report on global warming. It says right in it that some of the science has been changed to reflect the political goals of the organization! What's up with that? Environmental activists and the media have lost all credibility with me by reporting hypothesis as fact. The dire global warming predictions are coming from computer modeling; not actual scientific experimentation. Those guys cannot accurately predict next week's or next year's weather much less weather trends over the next 100 years. Al Gore is obviously still buying pot by the pound from the same dealer he used when he was a young man. Remember those dire predictions for a catastrophic 2006 hurricane season due to global warming? Do you still put your whole faith in those people? When Clinton released his famous global warming report signed onto by 2000 scientists, there was not one climatologist who signed! Who are these scientists everyone keeps saying have a consensus on the accuracy of global warming predictions? Is it the dizzy blond hosting the Weather Channel entertainment shows? She doesn't do climate research. How come the scientists who actually do the modeling and study the climate are not speaking out and writing articles? Remember Dr. Paul Erlich and The Population Bomb? His environmental activist replay of Malthusian theories sold a lot of books. But, Erlich and Malthus were both wrong. In fact not one thing Erlich ever predicted came to pass. I encourage you to use your noodle and take in both sides of this argument with a skeptical view. There's a lot of junk science, propaganda, and lies out there. Try using your brain and doing a little research before you parrot the propaganda. Before you sell your SUV you should also know that the United Nations says that more CO2 is contributed to out atmosphere by animals than by humans. I don't deny global warming. I merely say that it isn't proven. A. Michael Baker At 11:50 AM 2/6/2007, you wrote: Andrew - You seem to miss what I [so as not to speak for anyone else] am saying: Yes, there is global warming; yes, it could be a great devastation; yes, I am concerned. What I am NOT convinced of is the degree of human participation in that or the degree to which we can help. I do not even question that we should be trying to help out - just the degree to which it WILL make a positive difference. Make that doubly so for the question of why Mars is also heating up. Does anyone have any data on that, by the way? At this point I am doing all this speculation from my easy chair, not my study. BillR Jacksonville FL [Fortunately my house, while near the river, is 54' above sea level. A 45' rise in global water level would let me starve in a river front home...] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Series
Re: [MBZ] AMG Hammer for sale, cheep cheep
Your link is 6 years old! At 03:19 PM 12/16/05, you wrote: For $5k, *someone* needs to pick this thing up. Definitely a project car, but considering the insane rarity of these things...! I think 13 built worldwide? Check out the photos at the link in one of the posts. AMG had to do a lot of reinforcement of the stock 6-cyl subframe. Note the 'Holy Grail' 190MPH speedometer face, too. http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php3?t=91940 I'm almost glad it's not near Boise, or I'd probably already have it in my garage. Too far away for me to trailer it back to Idaho. But just think, with a 6.0L M119 under the hood... :-) -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 95kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 261kmi (Sportline) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Michael Baker Marketing Consulting Communications P. O. Box 1615 Running Springs, CA 92382-1615 909-867-5960 www.idm-marketing.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty-winter mats
You can get custom fitted rubber all-weather mats for virtually any MB model (4-pc set is$64.95 freight free in the US) at www.plushmats.com/rubbertite.html At 12:33 PM 11/8/05, you wrote: Nah, sorry. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 12:29 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty-winter mats Maybe W116 chassis as well? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rusty, Do you sell winter ( rubber) floor mats for my 95 E300D? I'm looking for mats that are 'fit to my car with MB logos on them. I really only need the front mats. Jay ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Michael Baker Marketing Consulting Communications P. O. Box 1615 Running Springs, CA 92382-1615 909-867-5960 www.idm-marketing.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ham station for sale
What's up with the ham station for sale? I'm not real keen on downloading a batch file. At 08:16 PM 9/29/05, you wrote: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20050930/87ca3d68/attachment.bat ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Michael Baker Marketing Consulting Communications P. O. Box 1615 Running Springs, CA 92382-1615 909-867-5960 www.idm-marketing.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ham station for sale
Craig, thanks for translating. At 10:15 AM 9/30/05, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Baker Marketing Consulting Communications P. O. Box 1615 Running Springs, CA 92382-1615 909-867-5960 www.idm-marketing.com
Re: [MBZ] Linux
Yup, I'll join. Six? At 08:29 PM 9/8/05, you wrote: You need a GMail account. :-) On 9/8/05, Craig McCluskey mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 19:24:34 -0500 LT Don mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many folks would support and participate in a Linux discussion email group? Kleb wants a head count before he goes thru the effort. I've been using Linux for something like 10 years and Unix since 1983. With 193 messages on the diesel list, however, I can't really spend more time on email. My wife complains as it is. Craig ___ For used parts email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.nethttp://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listenhttp://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Michael Baker Marketing Consulting Communications P. O. Box 1615 Running Springs, CA 92382-1615 909-867-5960 www.idm-marketing.com
Re: [MBZ] manual tire changers
Ken, What brand and model of tire changer do you use? At 01:55 PM 6/23/05, you wrote: Anybody ever used one of those manual tire changers. I use one every time I need to mount a tire. I buy my tires loose, mount and balance them myself. The bubble balancer works well...you can balance a tire with it. Better than letting a tire jockey strip your mounting lugs or torque them to 400 ft/lbs so you can't change a tire on the road. Ken If I can't fix it, it don't get fixed - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: [MBZ] manual tire changers Anybody ever used one of those manual tire changers like you can get at harbor freight? Thinking about getting one of those and a manual tire balancer. Have heard you can get tires balanced pretty darn good with a plain old manual bubble balancer. Just wondered how good the manual changer worked though. Would rather have a pneumatic one though but those are too expensive. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Michael Baker Marketing Consulting Communications P. O. Box 1615 Running Springs, CA 92382-1615 909-867-5960 www.idm-marketing.com