Re: [MBZ] Limp Mode

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

> I’m no proponent of cheap Chinesium scanners, but for the $150 or so that one 
> costs, the amount of information you can get from it even if you’re not 
> planning on doing the work yourself, is invaluable. I especially like the one 
> I recommended to AZBob,

Which one is that?
Link to it?

Rick

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[MBZ] OT That Sound

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https://youtu.be/-PL8-_G8JVc?si=4_iFOFCTU3pKnYJB

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Re: [MBZ] BAT Bashing

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Money laundering?

Rick

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] BAT Bashing

Well it has been discussed many times. Couldn’t tell you specifics beyond 
people seem to pay way beyond reasonable prices for cars there. It seems like a 
crack fueled bidding frenzy.


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> On Jun 21, 2024, at 1:36 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
>
> I thought someone recently relayed comments critical about vehicles
> posted on Bring A Trailer, but I cannot find the email, even with
> searching in the archives.
>
> Am I remembering correctly?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Craig
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[MBZ] One For The Michigan Folks

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https://swmi.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-joseph-1984-mercedes-benz-300d/7755437149.html

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Re: [MBZ] Tires for my 1980 300SD

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I can second all of those choices. All the tires.

Rick

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires for my 1980 300SD

General Alimax, Hankook, I have also had good luck with GT Radial

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> On Jun 8, 2024, at 3:37 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
>
> So I had the car up on four jackstands to bleed the brakes and had the
> thought of looking for the date code on the tires. I had trouble finding
> the information because it doesn't look like the examples I saw on-line.
>
> I finally decided the information in the first attached picture has the
> date code at its end.
>
> And to think I have been driving all over the middle part of this
> country ...
>
> The tires look new, though, as the second and third pictures show.
>
> I will need to get new tires for my W116 300SD (including the spare,
> which is worse than the road tires).
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations / experiences?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Craig
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Samstag

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

> More, or less, expensive than the Klann KL-025?

Same one. Same price. Now manufactured by Gedore.

Rick

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Re: [MBZ] Samstag

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A spring compressor and a ball joint press.
Very, very pricey. Then again, my life, limbs, and health are worth it. I have 
six cars to remove springs from.

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Sent: Friday, June 7, 2024 4:40:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Samstag

On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 21:25:45 +0000 Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Just placed an order with Samstag for a few specialty tools, and I must
> say their customer service is the absolute best I have ever
> encountered. Ever.

Thank you for pointing them out.

What tools did you order?


Craig

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[MBZ] Samstag

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Just placed an order with Samstag for a few specialty tools, and I must say 
their customer service is the absolute best I have ever encountered. Ever.

Rick

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Re: [MBZ] OT: RR (not Mercedes) content

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For $6k I'd rather have this.
https://m.facebook.com/marketplace/item/926483832496420/?ref=search

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Subject: [MBZ] OT: RR (not Mercedes) content

Not even Kaleb has one of these.  Seems very affordable...
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rkeYE4Rg/1986-elmco-royal-ride-golf-cart?
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ultrasonic Cleaners

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Yep. He recommended a Branson. They are on eBay.

Rick

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Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 9:13:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Ultrasonic Cleaners

On Tue, 28 May 2024 21:41:22 -0400 Allan Streib via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Keep an eye on govdeals.com for university surplus. I don’t see any at
> the moment but would guess they are available from time to time.

Try asking Jamie, too. We had a discussion about ultrasonic cleaners in
the past.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] I picked up the 95k mile 1 owner e300

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Sell it to John Woods and let him make a few bucks. Or sell it to Dean Laumbach 
and watch him flip it for $50k.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I picked up the 95k mile 1 owner e300

Nope. Let it go to the Back 40 where everything else ends up.

-D

> On May 25, 2024, at 6:40 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> Sell it to Poos
>
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>> On May 25, 2024, at 8:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I will probably dump it off in the back 40 for a few years. It definitely 
>> needs some Martha love.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On May 25, 2024, at 7:42 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice!  Keep us posted on how it comes back to life
>>>
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> On May 25, 2024, at 7:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:

 Car is nice, will clean up. Currently the throttle linkage is sticky from 
 sitting and has no brakes.  Original owner was Michael Doucet, supposedly 
 a famous musician. I have never heard of him. Anyway, if he really is a 
 big deal, just was at his house today.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Benz 300D - $14,500 (SAINT SIMONS ISLAND)

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> Any person who Buyes the home
   must submit to a background Check before signing the lot Lease.

> Strange.

It's a trailer in a trailer park, but they don't want trailer park people 
living there.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Current show at Okie Acres

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Pretty far South for the Northern lights. Quite incredible.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Current show at Okie Acres

WOW!!!

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> On May 10, 2024, at 11:12 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Car fax

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Nope. Carfax is quite expensive. Used to be $99 for six reports. It's now $99 
for four reports. Bumper is $38.97 every three months.

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Subject: [MBZ] Car fax

Folks

I thought carfax had a subscription and then you could do what you wanted

Thanks for the bumper report ..l wonder if Toyota has a national database

Xx rick

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Re: [MBZ] OT Porch Problems

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Car dealers can be crooked.
In other news, water is wet.

Rick

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[MBZ] One For Okie Acres

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/204766463031?mkcid=16=1=711-127632-2357-0=DYsFfc7WTO6=4429486=xL9F1IEtSkq=_ver=artemis=COPY

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Re: [MBZ] Green '95 NA diesel sold for original sticker price.

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So he probably got it for $8k, spent a grand for shipping, another grand for 
the detail shop and fluids changed, now he pockets $20k for maybe 30 hours of 
work. Not a bad gig if you can get it.

Rick

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Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 2:15:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Green '95 NA diesel sold for original sticker price.

I am not sure if I posted it here, but about 3 weeks ago that car was listed on 
Fakebook a few hours from me for $10k. Dean apparently bought it and here we go.


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> On Apr 26, 2024, at 1:58 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> Dean does it again.
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1995-mercedes-benz-e300-5/26
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Birthday, Kleb!

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

> I am unaware of a band of likeminded fellas like us following in our 
> footsteps.

Pierre Hedary is in his thirties I believe. John Woods is forty something. 
There are a handful of classic Mercedes enthusiasts.

Rick
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[MBZ] Any Ideas?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

What's wrong with this one? I'm going to go check it out on Thursday. I'm 
thinking the shop screwed up something with the glow plug wiring. Any known 
issues with these W211 cars?

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/d/glen-ellyn-2008-mercedes-benz-320/7739883514.html

Rick
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[MBZ] FBMP A Rant

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Okay, so BIL is in Florida, so I figured I'd look for a car to have shipped to 
the rust belt. Found a W210 two hours after it was listed. Cool. Message the 
guy, no response. Just checked again, found the car relisted (twice), responded 
to both ads, still no response. Grr.

I have messaged others locally about other things, and been ghosted. Whenever I 
do get a response, even "It's been sold", I reply with plenty of gratitude.

Has the general population's IQ declined so much that people can't even respond 
to an inquiry? WTF? If you really don't want to sell the car or whatever, don't 
list it.

My distain for humanity is becoming more profound daily.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] 99 210 with 1234 shfiter stuck in park

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Mine is a newer facelift model, but I couldn't shift out of park one time. My 
issue was the brake light switch. There are two sets of contacts in it, one for 
the lights, and one as an input to the computer.  Also there is a manual 
override to get it out of park. Mine is a 2000 so this may not apply. Still 
doesn't explain your no crank situation though.

Rick

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[MBZ] OT Computer security issues

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https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=250987

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Kaleb

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Yeah. It's a bit rusty.

Rick

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Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 6:46:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Kaleb

I saw that. Not sure I want to take it on.

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> On Mar 21, 2024, at 6:36 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
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> Get on your Ludmilla account and buy this.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/W123NA/permalink/7324500287616647/
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> If you decide you don't want it, I'll come and pick it up the end of May.
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[MBZ] Hey Kaleb

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Get on your Ludmilla account and buy this.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/W123NA/permalink/7324500287616647/

If you decide you don't want it, I'll come and pick it up the end of May.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Time v Mileage

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You dodged a speeding ticket or three on that one.


Rick

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Time v Mileage

Can’t. Someone else owns it now.

-D

> On Mar 19, 2024, at 2:31 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
>
>> Of course, Mrs. Dan’s car has no need for winding up.
>
> Need to give her the key to the CL600.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Time v Mileage

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> Of course, Mrs. Dan’s car has no need for winding up.

Need to give her the key to the CL600.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Now THAT’S a Retirement Party!

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> I want to quietly slip out the back way on my last day. Or even better, the 
> day before.

Yep.

Hey. Where's the old guy?
Um, I think he retired.

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Re: [MBZ] Sidewall Musings

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It's a truck. I suspect that Porsche Cayennes don't handle like a Panamerica, 
although I haven't driven one.

Rick

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Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 7:47:43 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: dan penoff.com 
Subject: [MBZ] Sidewall Musings

I’ve noticed when I drive the ML550 (W164) aggressively, especially in turns, 
it seems unstable, like the sidewalls aren’t holding up well, or they’re 
breaking down and allowing the tire to “roll”.

The car has stock Michelins on it, so they’re not cheap or low quality tires. I 
haven’t checked the date codes on them yet, but I will in the morning.

I’m just wondering if what I’m experiencing is normal, and maybe just a center 
of gravity thing, as the CG is pretty high up on these things.

Thoughts?

-D
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Re: [MBZ] 2006 Lexus LS 430 with 126 K miles on Cars 'n Bids

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Last year of the LS430. The most overbuilt Toyota ever produced.


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] 2006 Lexus LS 430 with 126 K miles on Cars 'n Bids

Why the bidding fervor for an 18 year old non-Mercedes luxury sedan with
over 100K miles?  I don't get it.
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9AyAEMWA/2006-lexus-ls-430
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Re: [MBZ] What could go wrong??

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Here's a video. I didn't watch it, but it should give you enough insight to 
make an informed decision.
https://youtu.be/D0ubJ_QWlG8?si=YwnEJaP2KfxTk7lg

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Subject: [MBZ] What could go wrong??

Gym buddy has a 2014 Audi A5 coupe. Timing belt broke, engine toasted. He knows 
I work on my own cars, offered to pay me to do an engine swap. It’s always been 
my policy to not work on other people’s cars but he offered to source the 
engine and pay for my time. How hard could it be?
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Re: [MBZ] Carfax/Autocheck report request

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Not valid

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Subject: [MBZ] Carfax/Autocheck report request

Would appreciate if someone can run the following VIN for me:
WDBDB25DXGA275988
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Re: [MBZ] remove sludge from w123 diesel

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Black oil is to be expected. It's the nature of a diesel. Perhaps Mobil 1 is 
not as high quality of an oil as it once was. If you do use a flush product, I 
would probably pull the lower pan after draining the oil to make darn sure 
there is no chunks of sludge that will plug the oil screen.

Here is a flush product that is allegedly very good. I've never used it. Follow 
the instructions to a T.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07TK1BH1D/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_6?smid=A1EGOV5KZD8TMZ=1

I would probably use this though, just because it's from Germany.

https://www.amazon.com/Liqui-Moly-2037-Pro-Line-Engine/dp/B00CR3RXTO/?tag=drive09e6-20

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Subject: [MBZ] remove sludge from w123 diesel

Good Afternoon!
When I was adjusting the valves last fall I was surprised to see that there
seemed to be a slight build-up of sort of gummy oil around the valves.  Was
not terrible but I could understand why it might not want to drain out in
an oil change.

I have heard some conflicting advice on using sludge removal on these
engines and was curious if anyone had any advice on this.  There are some
products from Liqui Moly that look interesting. It explains why my oil goes
black instantly after an oil change.  I have had the car for over 15 years
and it had only 68kmi when I got it.  I have used synthetic oil since I got
it, mostly Mobil 1 15-50.

Thanks in advance!

Dan Elliott - Philadelphia area
1982 300D turbo 189kmi
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Re: [MBZ] Back to 124 Daily Driver

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Dan,

Traditionally this is the slowest time of year for shipping. Package volume 
falls by 30-40 % over peak volume. This past peak was above average, but I've 
seen times when volume was overwhelming. This past year was not. Current volume 
is down perhaps 20-25% from the same time last year. That is a guesstimate, but 
I believe it is accurate.
Remember, UPS makes most of its' ground profit from business to business 
commerce. Home deliveries are less profitable and more of a PITA. Note also 
that where I work is a consolidation hub. It is financially more prudent to 
close or curtail operations somewhere else and route that volume through here. 
They are doing that.


Take from this what you will.

My take?
Save your money, get out of debt.
A recession is eminent.
We (as a country) will have a better view of what's happening by the third 
quarter. I *think* interest rates are not coming down soon, so .


Rick


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Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 12:12:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Back to 124 Daily Driver

Rick,

Do you think this is the case considering that I would expect shipping volume 
in the first quarter to be the lowest on an annual basis? Just curious, and 
thanks so much for sharing!

-D

> On Feb 14, 2024, at 10:43 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
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>
>> We are in a 123 bubble right now that I suspect will be bursting at any 
>> moment.
>
> Several bubbles are getting ready to pop. I have not seen shipping volumes 
> this low in twenty years.
>
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Back to 124 Daily Driver

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> We are in a 123 bubble right now that I suspect will be bursting at any 
> moment.

Several bubbles are getting ready to pop. I have not seen shipping volumes this 
low in twenty years.

Rick

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Re: [MBZ] Ok all you (mercedes) refrigerator experts

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

If it's the coil freezing over, replace the thermistor on the coil in back of 
the freezer. It's for the defrost.
https://youtu.be/RoMCTAzlVW8?si=z0qtaoSlZDf5u8uw

Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] Ok all you (mercedes) refrigerator experts

Folks,

So I have a fairly new … don’t see a date 25 cuft GE bottom freezer drawer 
refrigerator/ freezer.  I’ve had it 2-3 years. Current problem is it’s pretty 
warm in the refrigerator  top part … like 50+ degrees and all is normal cold in 
the freezer.

I think this happened a few years ago and we  thawed it completely  for a 
couple of days and it came back to life.

I’m about to do the same but I wonder if any of you have any ideas or 
experience on this GE model ?

Thanks

Xx rick

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Re: [MBZ] Dirt cheap '87 turbo on BAT

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

> Read the comments. Seller told the high bidder that the price was too
cheap and reneged on the deal.

What a dick.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] W210 Crankshaft Position Sensor - 1998 E320 Wagon

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> Amazing what driving in the Tri-State area (Chicago) can do to a car, even 
> though it was kept clean. Rick knows this all too well, I’m sure.

Yep. A heated garage just catalyzes the rusting process.


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Kaleb

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That Alex kid posted a 560Sel with heated and reclining rear seats that needs 
an engine. He wanted $2k. I should've took a screenshot.


Rick

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Kaleb

What am I supposed to see? Doesn’t pull up anything.

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> On Jan 27, 2024, at 6:04 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
>
> Check your Gertrude or Matilda account on FB.
>
> https://m.facebook.com/story.php/?id=1444767035590031_fbid=7107048689361809
>
>
> Rick
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[MBZ] Hey Kaleb

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Check your Gertrude or Matilda account on FB.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php/?id=1444767035590031_fbid=7107048689361809


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] NO BLACK DEATCH HERE - 2006 E320 CDI - $5,600

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Not bad, I DETEST darkly tinted windows.
Old man eyes, astigmatism, beginning cataracts, whatever. I can't stand them. I 
understand the reasoning for them in say Arizona or Florida, but it doesn't 
change my sentiment.


Rick

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Sent: January 27, 2024 10:26 AM
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Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
Subject: [MBZ] NO BLACK DEATCH HERE - 2006 E320 CDI - $5,600

Might be a reasonable deal for a well-cared-for car. I'm not crazy about the 
interior color but not a deal breaker.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/d/mount-prospect-2006-mercedes-benz-e320/7711729153.html


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Re: [MBZ] 2011 Mercedes C300 4 Matic Check Engine Light Code Question

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I suspect the oil pressure code is the generic interpretation of P0522.

Rick

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Sent: January 20, 2024 6:20 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] 2011 Mercedes C300 4 Matic Check Engine Light Code Question

Hi,
   I am getting the following Check Engine Code on a 2011 Mercedes C300 4Matic 
using a "BlueDriver" Code Reader:

1 ME - Motor electronics ''ME97'' for combustion engine

P0522

PRESENT

The charge movement flap (cylinder bank 1) has a malfunction. (attached readout)


The car does have an issue with the intake manifold flap that I am working on 
now.  My question is that when I look up the Code P0522 for more information I 
get the following:

DIAGNOSTIC CODE P0522: ENGINE OIL PRESSURE SENSOR/SWITCH LOW INPUT
Apparently the "Code Number" is wrong on my Blue Driver code reader.  I tried 
contacting "BlueDriver" customer service but have gotten no response.
Any idea what the proper code number is for "The charge Movement flap (Cylinder 
bank 1) has a malfunction"?
Thanks,Bob K
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Re: [MBZ] Insanity is an understatement

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>  If I had a $100k budget to throw away on any car I wanted, I would be 
> looking for an original Acura NSX.

Surprisingly, there are a lot of people that bought those cars and daily drove 
them.


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Insanity is an understatement

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Another big payday for Dean Laumbach.

Time to offload some of that old iron Kaleb.


Rick

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Sent: January 20, 2024 7:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Insanity is an understatement

F’n insane at minimum. Money laundering scheme?

--FT
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> On Jan 20, 2024, at 4:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> 300TD on BAT.
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-mercedes-benz-300td-turbo-41/
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Re: [MBZ] I’m selling it for way cheaper than the actual value so please keep lowballs away. 2006 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 500 4MATIC Sedan 4D,$3,900

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

On 1/19/24 9:57 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> An S class with 4matic and a nice color for that price? What's not to
> like?
>

It's powered by a 2006 M273. That's what's not to like.

https://www.mercedesmedic.com/check-my-mercedes-benz-for-balance-shaft-issue-by-vin-m272273/

https://blog.fcpeuro.com/the-definitive-guide-to-the-mercedes-m272-and-m273-engines


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Changing Oil on My W163

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

This thing? I've heard they work well. I've never tried one.

https://www.fumotousa.com/cars-pickups-mercedes-benz-2004-ml350-3-7l-v6


Rick

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Sent: January 18, 2024 5:28 PM
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Cc: azbob...@gmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] Changing Oil on My W163

Even though the seller said on purchase day that the oil had recently been 
changed, I figured I’d change it, post long trip, and I’d have a baseline.
As I looked at the drain plug orientation I saw that the odds were great that 
the oil would drain out and get on front end parts and stuff. Long story short, 
I was right.
I know on my Dodge my dad had a quarter turn lockable handled spigot installed 
(instead of the drain plug) that directed the oil downward vice jetting out 
onto stuff.
Is there a know lockable handle spigot thingie that anyone has used in this 
application?

AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] I am watching a utuber vid

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

https://youtu.be/AQ48nrvcsUs?si=CzKQsmIjNfg4oIFl


Rick

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Sent: January 16, 2024 8:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I am watching a utuber vid

Huh?

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> On Jan 16, 2024, at 8:24 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> By PierreH recounting his arguments with Dr Booth about which is the best MB 
> diesel engine.
>
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

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Sounds convoluted, but I can order one from Amazon and ship it to you when it 
comes.


Rick

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Sent: January 16, 2024 2:34 PM
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Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

I wish there was a dealer closer to me for stuff like this. I'm not driving 70 
miles one-way to buy a battery.

If I use the contact form for mbpartsource.com would they be able to ship me 
one even though the website lists it as "not for sale" ?

I don't do Amazon.


On Tue, Jan 16, 2024, at 13:05, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> My dealer parts guy says they have tons of them, they replace a lot of them.
>
> Not sure why FCP’s price is so stupid. Maybe they don’t want to sell
> them? REV Parts (MB web parts front end) won’t list them since it’s a
> battery.
>
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] 2002 Mercedes, E320 4-matic

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> These take only premium fuel?

You can probably get by with mid grade, maybe regular if you don't drive hard 
all the time.


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] 1998 E320 Wagon - Engine Electronics - Check Engine

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Are the motor mounts good?
I had an issue with the engine vibrating due to mounts and it would cause an 
intermittent miss, probably with the coils or wires.


Rick

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Sent: January 16, 2024 1:42 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] 1998 E320 Wagon - Engine Electronics - Check Engine

Oldest son just reported this alert in his IC display as well as poor 
performance when accelerating. We’ll get it on DAS first thing tomorrow morning 
to get the details, but I suspect a bad coil. A quick search of BanzWhirled and 
other such venues didn’t yield much.

If anyone has suggestions or things to look for, I’m all ears!

Thanks!

-D
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[MBZ] Okie Acres PA

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

https://m.facebook.com/marketplace/item/24095841023397617/?ref=newsfeed

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

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> Also, school busses are not currently noted for catching on fire.

What are the chances of roasting a busload of chilluns due to a
minor accident? (Road hazard staking the battery pack?)
Wouldn't take many of those to Hindenburg the entire concept,
and any/everyone who voted for it.

Hmm. Interesting that you should mention that.
Uncle Tony's Garage just put out a video on the very subject. He makes some 
very good points.

https://youtu.be/GXFPxv7LOlg

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] W163 License Plate Fasteners FUBAR

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This looks like the way. You have to remove the hatch panel though.

https://youtu.be/4Fft6_kngdU


Rick

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Sent: January 7, 2024 4:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] W163 License Plate Fasteners FUBAR

If they are rivet nuts, you'll have to chisel the outside lip so that it can be 
pushed through. Get some touch up paint to clean up any damage and pop in new 
ones with this tool.

https://hftools.com/app58078

Oh and remove the hatch panel to retrieve the old ones when the rattling gets 
to you.

Or, just use two bolts and call it good.


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] W163 License Plate Fasteners FUBAR

Two of the four license plate fasteners on my ML350 have the bolts broken off 
in them. Not sure I can get them out with an easy out thing. And one of them is 
pretty buggered up and I doubt that a new bolt could go in there even if I get 
this broken one out.
Is it possible to get in there and just replace everything?

AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] W163 License Plate Fasteners FUBAR

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

If they are rivet nuts, you'll have to chisel the outside lip so that it can be 
pushed through. Get some touch up paint to clean up any damage and pop in new 
ones with this tool.

https://hftools.com/app58078

Oh and remove the hatch panel to retrieve the old ones when the rattling gets 
to you.

Or, just use two bolts and call it good.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: January 7, 2024 2:08 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: azbob...@gmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] W163 License Plate Fasteners FUBAR

Two of the four license plate fasteners on my ML350 have the bolts broken off 
in them. Not sure I can get them out with an easy out thing. And one of them is 
pretty buggered up and I doubt that a new bolt could go in there even if I get 
this broken one out.
Is it possible to get in there and just replace everything?

AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] What is the photographic trick? 2011 Mercedes-Benz e-class, $7, 000

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

F stop. Depth of field. Not sure if you can do it on a phone camera, but any 
DSLR will do it.


Rick

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Sent: January 4, 2024 9:31 AM
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Subject: [MBZ] What is the photographic trick? 2011 Mercedes-Benz e-class, $7, 
000

To get just the car to pop out of the background?  Is it processed? Nice car

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3364701287116632

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Re: [MBZ] Time for a dash cam

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

And one more, just because.

https://youtu.be/lzdxCOvPq5Q?si=PhcCFGNqs-HCtC3c


Rick

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Sent: December 29, 2023 3:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Time for a dash cam

I watched a review of several dash cams a while ago and they all use the same 
imaging sensor for the most part.

https://youtu.be/4AnyhHl3_tE

A newer video.

https://youtu.be/zcyaVWOiCwY


Rick

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Sent: December 29, 2023 3:10 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com
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Cc: ka...@striplin.net
Subject: [MBZ] Time for a dash cam

On the way back toward Tulsa from OKC earlier today on the interstate where the 
speed limit is 80, we had a guy in a pickup pulling a 2 car trailer. He was in 
the left lane rather than where he should be in the right. I had to move to the 
right lane to pass him after waiting for him to finally pass a line of cars. As 
I am about half way up his trailer on his right, he proceeds to come over into 
my lane with no warning or signal. I lay on the horn to alert him to his 
mistake. I would have assumed he was not paying attention but he continued over 
so I had no choice but to hit the shoulder. Now, him being in the right lane I 
proceeded to pass him on the left. Again, he did the exact same thing. At this 
point it is clear he is intentionally trying to either run me off the road he 
cause an accident. Now he is in the left and I try passing on the right again, 
same thing. This guy tried to run me off for a 3rd time. By this point I had 
the wife call the highway patrol to report him, his vehicle tag and 
description. I slowed way down to fall way behind and observed he attempted the 
same with a couple of other cars.

This is a prime example of needing a dash cam. This seems like the perfect 
scenario of my word against his without video proof.

This has been discussed before, but anyone have specific examples of units they 
recommend, or what I should look for?  I’m assuming the best approach would be 
to snake a wire around the trim up under the dash and wire it to the cig 
lighter? Or is there somewhere in the dome light area that has a key on 12 volt 
source? What about a rear camera?


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Re: [MBZ] Time for a dash cam

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I watched a review of several dash cams a while ago and they all use the same 
imaging sensor for the most part.

https://youtu.be/4AnyhHl3_tE

A newer video.

https://youtu.be/zcyaVWOiCwY


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: December 29, 2023 3:10 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: ka...@striplin.net
Subject: [MBZ] Time for a dash cam

On the way back toward Tulsa from OKC earlier today on the interstate where the 
speed limit is 80, we had a guy in a pickup pulling a 2 car trailer. He was in 
the left lane rather than where he should be in the right. I had to move to the 
right lane to pass him after waiting for him to finally pass a line of cars. As 
I am about half way up his trailer on his right, he proceeds to come over into 
my lane with no warning or signal. I lay on the horn to alert him to his 
mistake. I would have assumed he was not paying attention but he continued over 
so I had no choice but to hit the shoulder. Now, him being in the right lane I 
proceeded to pass him on the left. Again, he did the exact same thing. At this 
point it is clear he is intentionally trying to either run me off the road he 
cause an accident. Now he is in the left and I try passing on the right again, 
same thing. This guy tried to run me off for a 3rd time. By this point I had 
the wife call the highway patrol to report him, his vehicle tag and 
description. I slowed way down to fall way behind and observed he attempted the 
same with a couple of other cars.

This is a prime example of needing a dash cam. This seems like the perfect 
scenario of my word against his without video proof.

This has been discussed before, but anyone have specific examples of units they 
recommend, or what I should look for?  I’m assuming the best approach would be 
to snake a wire around the trim up under the dash and wire it to the cig 
lighter? Or is there somewhere in the dome light area that has a key on 12 volt 
source? What about a rear camera?


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Re: [MBZ] How is it I Have Never Seen This?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

To answer the question
"How is it I Have Never Seen This?"

FBMP search engine sucks.
It is quite possibly the worst platform for internet sales searching since Al 
Gore invented the internet.


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Re: [MBZ] 2004 W211 4-matic oddities

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Are all four tires the same size and brand?


Rick

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Sent: December 27, 2023 9:57 AM
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Cc: d...@bruckmann.com
Subject: [MBZ] 2004 W211 4-matic oddities

I'm in Toronto for a couple of weeks and have borrowed my brother's
crumbling 2004 W211 4-matic station wagon WDBUH82J95X170353 with 410,000 km
on it (about 255,000 miles).

When cold, on dry pavement, the drivetrain has a nasty habit of
slipping/grabbing when cruising along. Under aggressive acceleration
there's no issue, it's just when you're cruising or
accelerating/decelerating mildly. It's like a shudder, with the engine RPMs
bouncing up and down. Once warmed up it goes away.

Is this a conductor plate waiting to say goodbye, or something in the
4-matic? He says it has been doing this for years.

Also, imagine my delight in seeing that it's not just my ancient 1970s MBs
that leak at the top of the windshield!

D.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Inkjet Printers for Home Use

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Hmm. How about a color laser printer under $300?

https://www.windowscentral.com/best-color-laser-printer-under-200


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Inkjet Printers for Home Use

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I'd probably get her a Brother BW laser printer and say oops.


Rick

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Sent: December 25, 2023 1:56 PM
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Cc: d...@penoff.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Inkjet Printers for Home Use

Mother-in-law asked me to get her an inkjet printer. I see this as a major 
concern, as we probably all know how poorly inkjet printers are when not used 
regularly. But, being that I’m a good son-in-law, I’ll see what I can do.

I’m partial to Epson and HP in that order. Epson has been doing inkjet on a big 
scale for decades, as has HP, but I have used professional Epson products for a 
while and as a result, I prefer them.

If you’ve got any direct experience with something that might do the trick, 
please share. I’m looking at sub-$100 stuff to give you some idea.

Thanks!

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Merry Christmas, Friends.

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Merry Christmas!


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[MBZ] An Honest EV Ad

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

For Dimitri, et al.

https://youtu.be/zRUg2NXmLd0


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Re: [MBZ] Bright idea

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

It's the future and it's here.

https://www.ford.com/support/how-tos/ford-technology/driver-assist-features/what-is-ford-bluecruise-hands-free-driving/

https://youtu.be/8SHeWcC2-34

Unfortunately, like all other e-nannies, we end up with less attentive, dumber 
drivers. ABS, adaptive cruise control, lane assist (DUI prevention package), 
hell even automatic transmissions, make for a dumbed down driver pool. Yes, I 
am glad the technology exists, but I don't NEED it.

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[MBZ] Quick Flip For Dan

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

To a FB moron?

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/indian-rocks-beach-hot-offer-mercedes/7699838060.html


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Re: [MBZ] Attractive '83 240D on BAT

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

> I have a couple of 240Ds with the same sort of mileage and the same sort of 
> condition.

Sort and sell. Get while the getting is good.


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Re: [MBZ] Total insanity. 1982 300D - $7,500

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

To some, maybe.
To me, no.


Rick

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Sent: December 15, 2023 8:49 PM
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Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
Subject: [MBZ] Total insanity. 1982 300D - $7,500

No way these are worth this kind of money are they?

https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/nashville-1982-mercedes-benz-300-td/7698084310.html
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Re: [MBZ] 2011 Mercedes C300 4Matic - Code 0522 Engine Oil Pressure Sensor

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

"Permanent" coded are relatively new in autos. Perhaps the last 15 years. As 
you have observed, they are permanent. I would suspect it showed up due to lack 
of oil pressure after the oil and filter change. I'm not sure about Mercedes, 
but most domestic autos have a "flood mode" where you can depress the 
accelerator to the floor on cranking, and it won't signal for fuel or spark to 
be delivered.


Rick

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Sent: December 15, 2023 5:30 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] 2011 Mercedes C300 4Matic - Code 0522 Engine Oil Pressure Sensor

I just finished replacing all the coil packs and spark plugs on my daughter's 
2011 Mercedes C300 4Matic w/110K miles to fix a few misfire codes that came on 
(P0300, P0305 & P0306).  Job was fairly easy and the codes disappeared and the 
car runs great!
At the same time it was due an oil change so I did that too.  I change the oil 
every 3K and use Mobil 1 0W40.  There are no check engine lights but now a scan 
shows a "Permanent Code" P0522 - Engine Oil Pressure Sensor".  Being a 
"Permanent Code" I cannot clear it and see if it comes up again.
It is a bit of a coincidence that after changing spark plugs, coil packs and 
oil change that code shows up?
Any ideas of a possible cause and fix.  I used a BlueDriver Scanner if that 
makes a difference.
Thanks,Bob K

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[MBZ] Floyd, Kaleb, and Me

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Quite possibly a true picture.


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[MBZ] One For Kaleb

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

https://www.benzworld.org/threads/1999-w140-s420-for-sale.3132897/


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Re: [MBZ] O.T. What’s This Nonsense

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

> Many sellers on fb neglect to post the VIN. Why is that?

The same reason they don't respond to valid inquiries about what they have for 
sale.

Because they are stupid dumbasses.


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Re: [MBZ] O.T. What’s This Nonsense

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Scam. 
https://consumer.ftc.gov/consumer-alerts/2018/10/steering-clear-vehicle-history-report-scams


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[MBZ] Wonder What's Wrong With It?

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https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/saint-petersburg-2009-mercedes-benz/7696083871.html


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Re: [MBZ] Another 2002 e320 wagon

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

It's throttle by wire. Probably the actuator, but if you don't want to shoot 
the parts cannon at it and pray, you'll need a good scan tool or Star System.


Rick

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Sent: December 6, 2023 6:42 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] Another 2002 e320 wagon

Folks

I was going to look at another e320 wagon 150k miles that I think a former list 
member has for cheap but he called it off … says it will idle fine but not take 
throttle which is actually the same problem I have with my Kia minivan …. I am 
about to replace the throttle position sensor on the Kia and the e320 guy was 
thinking the same about it

Opinions

Xx rick

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Re: [MBZ] UPS FCPEuro package delivered last night at 730P

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

It's peak season. Be grateful that it arrived.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: December 6, 2023 10:35 AM
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Cc: buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] UPS FCPEuro package delivered last night at 730P

yeah don't bring it to the porch just stick it on top of a car out
front. UPS is getting as bad as Fedex

Track to see delivery photo

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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Rotors Kaput?

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> Do you reckon it’s rotors or something to do with ABS maybe?

Never had a Honda, but I would guess ABS. Probably never had the fluid changed.

> I may have to become a contract teaching whore out at the old nuke plant to 
> repair the hole I made in my savings account.

I'm surprised you haven't done that sooner. Passing knowledge to the next 
generation(s) is probably the most valuable thing those of us that are passed 
the age of sixty can do. In five to ten years as boomers and old Gen x ers age 
out there will be a vast void of talent in the trades and specialty equipment 
operations. Do you want electricity and running water into your golden years? 
Train the next generation.

Rick
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[MBZ] FBMP

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

What the actual hell is wrong with Facebook Marketplace sellers? I found a car 
I want to check out, so I messaged the guy with an appropriate message (NOT "Is 
this still available).

No response.
I'll try again in a few hours.

Are people really this effing stupid?


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Re: [MBZ] OT MDB files

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

One thing to note. If an SSD is in use and power is lost, your data is probably 
going to be corrupted. Unless you are using an enterprise grade drive.


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Re: [MBZ] E320 MINT Condition 1999 - $2,950

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Front fenders are not color matched particularly well. That and no seat heaters 
means I'm not interested.


Rick

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Sent: December 1, 2023 11:35 PM
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Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
Subject: [MBZ] E320 MINT Condition 1999 - $2,950

"Elderly driven"

Perhaps the reason for the rebuilt title? And that's a lot of fresh Armor-All 
in the engine compartment.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/d/woodridge-mercedes-benz-e320-mint/7693440983.html
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Re: [MBZ] Good Price for the Miles I'd Say

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Reluctor (inductor, Hall effect?) Ring on the rear axles can rust and 
disintegrate causing an abs code. Simple to fix, but not easy.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: November 30, 2023 11:14 AM
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Cc: azbob...@gmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] Good Price for the Miles I'd Say

Pictures leave an little to be desired:
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3484214268512097/

Be nice to be able to see the seats. Reckon the ABS/SRS light is the brake 
brain recall not ever done?

AZBob

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[MBZ] OT Medicare Questions

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Yes, I do realize the system will be bankrupt by 2025 or so. That doesn't stop 
time, and I will be sixty five soon. I am employed and have what would be 
considered a "Cadillac" health plan. I am in good health with reasonably good 
genes and no bad habits (i.e. no smoking, no alcohol, no illicit substances) I 
take supplements (vitamin d, ect.) but no medications. I almost feel guilty 
pecking that out on the screen.

Anyway, I am getting inundated with junk mail, and spam calls regarding 
Medicare. It is my understanding that I don't have to sign up, if I don't plan 
on retiring at 65, and I don't. Is that correct? Also, stay away from Medicare 
"Advantage" plans? What is an accurate resource to go for information?

Getting this correct, and not getting permanently screwed is important.


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Re: [MBZ] Oh boy I’m seriously thinking about it

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

And you're not in the truck to haul it to Okie Acres yet?


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: November 18, 2023 1:06 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: ka...@striplin.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oh boy I’m seriously thinking about it

Guy finally sent me additional photos. Holy hell this thing is clean. Anything 
stand out and wrong with it that I might be missing?  Perhaps I am biased due 
to the color. It’s got some miles on it so it has to have been well maintained.


[ADCreHc74ThvXNym2SjKE8vAkJGsG8jNvJd-FFq5emiOakFQ2CGM4_zHqdCnb2Q46J-DLwAqiE45zQ7fzMPeektTcc-SCQfXLFyOETHMlgdb4ND0bXz3Ldbk=w600-h315-p-k.jpeg]
1977 Mercedes-Benz 
240D
photos.google.com

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On Nov 17, 2023, at 9:28 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
wrote:

First clue was when he described “vinyl seats”.

AZBob

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On Nov 17, 2023, at 7:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I can tell the seller is a moron like all other Fakebook sellers.  Sent a 
message asking 3-4  basic questions and he responded answering one. I replied 
asking 1 question at a time. He has read the message but no response.


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On Nov 17, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
wrote:

Get off yur wallet and go get that beautiful thing.

AZBob

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On Nov 17, 2023, at 6:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Believe it or not I would actually prefer it be auto.  If I do it I’m going to 
have to sell some cars to pay myself back.


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On Nov 17, 2023, at 7:12 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Thinking ain’t doing!!! That’s gorgeous. You’ll kick yourself forever if you 
don’t get it

--FT
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On Nov 17, 2023, at 7:30 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I’m thinking about it


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On Nov 17, 2023, at 6:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Why aren’t you on your way? That is absolutely gorgeous! AND it’s a stick, too!

You need to snag that right now.

-D

On Nov 17, 2023, at 7:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

 Look at this post on Facebook 
https://www.facebook.com/share/frpyEN4VjNhetcMz/?mibextid=DVh5HV

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Re: [MBZ] What’s the going shop rate these days?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Pierre is over $180 an hour.

An independent "we fix any car" shop around Chicago is $150 an hour.

I suspect the insurance is expensive.

Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: November 18, 2023 9:54 AM
To: davesl...@okiebenz.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: ka...@striplin.net
Subject: [MBZ] What’s the going shop rate these days?

What is the typical hourly rate now days for MB repair shops?

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Re: [MBZ] 4spd manual 1984 Mercedes-Benz 300 d Sedan 4D,$2,500

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Yeah. I saw that one.



Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: November 18, 2023 8:58 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] 4spd manual 1984 Mercedes-Benz 300 d Sedan 4D,$2,500

Euro version?  Looks quite decent for the money

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/841662857640449

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--FT
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 140

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

It's an auction.


Rick

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice 140

I didn't see the price.

On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 1:54 PM Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> [image: 1995-mercedes-benz-s320.jpeg]
>
> 1995 Mercedes-Benz S320
> 
> raleighclassic.com
> 
> 
>
> Maybe a little boring in terms of colors, but sure is nice.
>
> Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] Crazy Widow

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

> Go for it, buddy, that would be great!

Just be really, really careful dealing with the seller. She’s got a hair 
trigger for some really weird stuff

I look like Moses. I'll probably scare her into thinking I'm the Second Coming 
or something.

This could be fun!


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[MBZ] CPS?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

This might be a deal.
https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/winter-springs-2010-mercedes-gl350/7688498856.html


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Re: [MBZ] Crazy Widow

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I'm going to be in Apopka for Thanksgiving. If you want I'll take a look and 
post a full report.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: November 17, 2023 9:02 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: azbob...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Crazy Widow

Well, if you go you had better be SERIOUS and watch out for the random 
lightning bolts.

AZBob

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> On Nov 17, 2023, at 7:42 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> I’m sort of considering reconnecting with her and having a look. I’ve got 
> time next week I could go over there (Orlando) and check it out. Hmm.
>
> -D
>
>> On Nov 17, 2023, at 9:33 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> SHE'S BCK
>>
>> I'm thinking $3666 and we might have a deal.  And yeah the seat thing is 
>> very strange but maybe the fronts were trashed and these showed up at a 
>> knacker or something
>>
>> --FT
>>
>>> On 11/17/23 9:17 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Floyd and I have both interacted with this seller, who is a widow, very 
>>> religious, and seems to be mildly unhinged. She’s been trying to sell this 
>>> S600 for a year, easily, and at least she’s starting to show some sanity 
>>> with the price drop. For example, I asked about the interior color, as the 
>>> front seats look like they're a different color, and she went on a tirade 
>>> about if I was really serious I would come and see it, she wasn’t going to 
>>> answer any “silly” questions.
>>>
>>> 
>>> [00R0R_3EuqtwsSk5b_0lM0t2_600x450.jpg]
>>> 1996 Mercedes Benz S 600 for sale by owner - Apopka, FL - 
>>> craigslist
>>> orlando.craigslist.org
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
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[MBZ] BatteryMinder On Sale

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

For $20 at Northern Tool again.

https://www.northerntool.com/products/batteryminder-plus-battery-charger-trickle-charger-desulfator-12-volt-1-amp-model-12117tc-167981


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Re: [MBZ] ooooh luscious color -- 2000 Mercedes Benz E320 - $3, 000 (Arapahoe)

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Sadly, it doesn't have heated seats.


Rick

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Sent: November 8, 2023 2:43 PM
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Cc: buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] h luscious color -- 2000 Mercedes Benz E320 - $3, 000 
(Arapahoe)

https://eastnc.craigslist.org/cto/d/arapahoe-2000-mercedes-benz-e320/7684850885.html

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Re: [MBZ] How do I get a reimbursement from UPS?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I don't recall the amount that gets a package determined as "high value", but 
high value stuff gets handled with great care.
I think it's like a grand or something. Most folks don't insure past the 
hundred dollars, and wonder why their prized possession is smashed to bits. 

Rick


From: Curt Raymond 
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 11:14 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Rick Knoble
Subject: Re: [MBZ] How do I get a reimbursement from UPS?

You're suggesting UPS wouldn't have "lost" it if they'd thought they'd actually 
have to pay the full amount it was worth?

-Curt




On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 07:11:38 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 wrote:





The shipper has to file the claim. UPS isn't particularly responsive to damage 
claims as it is.

https://jalopnik.com/how-ups-screwed-a-popular-youtube-car-guy-out-of-10-00-1738255686

In UPS' defense, in the above case had the shipper properly insured the engine, 
it would have arrived. It would have been quite expensive though, and people 
want to cheap out.

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From: Mercedes  on behalf of Craig via Mercedes 

Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 5:53:03 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Craig 
Subject: [MBZ] How do I get a reimbursement from UPS?

I have asked around for suggestions on what to do about my eBay/UPS
situation and have been told maybe going to the local UPS and talking
with the fellow in charge might help or taking UPS to small claims court.

Do you fellows have any other suggestions? Or maybe encouragement in what
I have already been told?

I bought an FJC R-134A dye/oil injector from an eBay seller at a very
good price, as shown in the first picture.

The seller shipped it via UPS.

UPS damaged the box, as shown in the second picture, and the smaller of
the two pieces which make up the injector fell out.

I contacted the UPS Damage Exception group at 1-800-742-5877 about the
damage and sent in the pictures they requested.

I contacted the seller via eBay's messaging system. The seller responded,
"Oh my. I'm sorry to hear this. I appreciate you contacting us. If
nothing gets resolved for you please let us know."

I contacted UPS some days later to find out what was going on and found
they had approved my claim a few days after I submitted it. They said
they had sent the seller some paperwork to fill out and when they
received it back, they would process the claim and issue the payment.
They apparently want the number of the account which sent the package.

I then again contacted the seller via eBay's messaging system and wrote,

Dear bluebutterfly81522,

I just called the UPS Damage Exception Group at 1-800-651-2352.
They said the claim was approved on 06 July. They said they are
waiting for you to fill out and send them the documents so they
can process and send out the reimbursement.

Are you able to fill out their documents and send the documents
to them?

When might you be able to do that?

I heard nothing. I called UPS; they heard nothing. I asked, "What happens
if the seller never returns the forms?" The lady replied, "Then the claim
will never be processed."

I then asked eBay to step in and help. Unfortunately, it was now after
the 30 days, so they would not refund my purchase price. I even went
through the "Report a Seller for a policy violation" process, and eBay
replied they had my report and would take care of things.

Several days ago, they sent me an email saying there had been no action
on my report, so they were closing it. I suspect the seller did not reply
to them.

So now what should I do?

Though the seller arranged with UPS for shipment, I was the one whose
payment initiated the process. It seems to me, then, UPS should be
obligated to make me whole because they were the ones who damaged the box
and lost the small part of the product, but they are very hard to contact
and the people at the Damage Exception department are not helpful.


Craig
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Re: [MBZ] How do I get a reimbursement from UPS?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Mercedes Tuesday, October 31, 9:04 PM
I don't know. Does he work for UPS?
Yep. Twenty years. Can retire any time I choose.
And it changes everything knowing that. What little filter I had (should I say 
that? Would it jeopardize my job?) is gone. Kind of like your forty bucks.

Rick

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Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 9:03:43 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Craig 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] How do I get a reimbursement from UPS?

On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 00:58:52 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> Like Rick said, (and he has the inside scoop on UPS anyway, doesn’t
> he?)

I don't know. Does he work for UPS?


> That stinks, but it can and does work. FedEx has similar policies, and
> when they packed and later crushed a Mac Pro in Apple factory packaging
> that was sent to me, the buddy who sold it to me had to file the claim.

In my case the seller has dropped off the face of the earth ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] How do I get a reimbursement from UPS?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

The shipper has to file the claim. UPS isn't particularly responsive to damage 
claims as it is.

https://jalopnik.com/how-ups-screwed-a-popular-youtube-car-guy-out-of-10-00-1738255686

In UPS' defense, in the above case had the shipper properly insured the engine, 
it would have arrived. It would have been quite expensive though, and people 
want to cheap out.

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From: Mercedes  on behalf of Craig via Mercedes 

Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 5:53:03 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Craig 
Subject: [MBZ] How do I get a reimbursement from UPS?

I have asked around for suggestions on what to do about my eBay/UPS
situation and have been told maybe going to the local UPS and talking
with the fellow in charge might help or taking UPS to small claims court.

Do you fellows have any other suggestions? Or maybe encouragement in what
I have already been told?

I bought an FJC R-134A dye/oil injector from an eBay seller at a very
good price, as shown in the first picture.

The seller shipped it via UPS.

UPS damaged the box, as shown in the second picture, and the smaller of
the two pieces which make up the injector fell out.

I contacted the UPS Damage Exception group at 1-800-742-5877 about the
damage and sent in the pictures they requested.

I contacted the seller via eBay's messaging system. The seller responded,
"Oh my. I'm sorry to hear this. I appreciate you contacting us. If
nothing gets resolved for you please let us know."

I contacted UPS some days later to find out what was going on and found
they had approved my claim a few days after I submitted it. They said
they had sent the seller some paperwork to fill out and when they
received it back, they would process the claim and issue the payment.
They apparently want the number of the account which sent the package.

I then again contacted the seller via eBay's messaging system and wrote,

Dear bluebutterfly81522,

I just called the UPS Damage Exception Group at 1-800-651-2352.
They said the claim was approved on 06 July. They said they are
waiting for you to fill out and send them the documents so they
can process and send out the reimbursement.

Are you able to fill out their documents and send the documents
to them?

When might you be able to do that?

I heard nothing. I called UPS; they heard nothing. I asked, "What happens
if the seller never returns the forms?" The lady replied, "Then the claim
will never be processed."

I then asked eBay to step in and help. Unfortunately, it was now after
the 30 days, so they would not refund my purchase price. I even went
through the "Report a Seller for a policy violation" process, and eBay
replied they had my report and would take care of things.

Several days ago, they sent me an email saying there had been no action
on my report, so they were closing it. I suspect the seller did not reply
to them.

So now what should I do?

Though the seller arranged with UPS for shipment, I was the one whose
payment initiated the process. It seems to me, then, UPS should be
obligated to make me whole because they were the ones who damaged the box
and lost the small part of the product, but they are very hard to contact
and the people at the Damage Exception department are not helpful.


Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Newest Mercedes with manual transmission

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

SLK/Chrysler Crossfire


Rick

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Sent: October 21, 2023 8:06 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
Subject: [MBZ] Newest Mercedes with manual transmission

What's the newest MB that I'm likely to be able to find that has a manual? I'm 
guessing something like a W123 240D? Or a 300D with a manual swap?
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Re: [MBZ] Oil filler cap leak?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Yes. However, they are in Colorado, so shipping can take a bit longer to the 
East Coast than say, FCP Euro.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: October 17, 2023 10:23 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: astrasfo...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil filler cap leak?

Some of their prices are even lower than Rock Auto.  Are they a reliable
seller?

On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 9:46 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 20:26:46 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > I need one for the OM617 in my 300CD
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 16, 2023, 1:16 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > That and you can replace the rubber seal. I can post the part number
> > > later after I get home.i used to keep these on the shelf when I had
> > > older models. Newer ones get the new “easy to turn” filler cap.
>
> RM European lists two for the OM617:
>
> https://www.rmeuropean.com/Products/1020180380-MFG30-V2400.aspx
>
> Mercedes-Benz 300SD Sedan 116.12 3.0L L5 Oil Cap Seal
> (38.5 X 59 X 2.3 mm)
> NotesFor original style oil filler cap.
> Part Number  1020180380
> Quantity needed  1
> Manufacturer ELRING KLINGER
> Manufacturer Part#   827.428
> Interchange Part#1020180080
> Price$1.48
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] A better way to polish headlights

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I remember Marshall saying to use Bonami cleanser for cleaning windshields. 
I've tried that with a felt pad on a buffer with decent results. I wonder what 
grit that is?


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: October 16, 2023 8:43 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Cc: d...@penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] A better way to polish headlights

I would probably try rubbing compound first just for grins. It’s pretty 
aggressive, but shouldn’t do any damage. There are other compounds that are 
finer that would probably work,too.

-D

> On Oct 16, 2023, at 8:46 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> Meguiars Ultimate compound for first cut then polishing stuff for second
>
> —FT
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Oct 16, 2023, at 1:17 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>>
>>> so I went right to 2 stages with the buffer. I was done in about 5 minutes 
>>> and it looks amazing, almost like new
>>
>> What did you use for compound?
>>
>>
>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] A better way to polish headlights

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

> so I went right to 2 stages with the buffer. I was done in about 5 minutes 
> and it looks amazing, almost like new

What did you use for compound?


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Re: [MBZ] [Okietalk] Car for Clay — Kleb needs to move to ND

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

AND a quonset hut!


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: October 13, 2023 5:33 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: d...@penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Okietalk] Car for Clay — Kleb needs to move to ND

Man, that place is a real time capsule. Oil furnace, maybe 100A electrical 
service, pink tile, you get it all there if you’re looking for some serious 
“retro”.

Getting some serious “rural” there, too. That place is close to NOTHING.

-D

On Oct 13, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:



--FT
Sent from iFōn
C
Begin forwarded message:

From: Clay via Okietalk 
Date: October 13, 2023 at 5:38:12 PM EDT
To: okiet...@okiebenz.com
Cc: Clay 
Subject: Re: [Okietalk] Car for Clay
Reply-To: okiet...@okiebenz.com

I can not Fakebuch any more, lost the account.

What #1 boy found while house hunting is this jewel

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/10385-20-St-SE_Leal_ND_58479_M97947-17423?from=srp-list-card

pea green /8 in the garage.  Told him to make sure it sold with the home.

Clay


inter urinas et faeces nascimur

On Oct 12, 2023, at 6:36 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Okietalk 
mailto:okiet...@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/W123NA/permalink/6708774865855862

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Re: [MBZ] Pack Some Heat and Check it Out, Kaleb.

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

> Robert Taylor Homes - Gone

Henry Horner Homes - Gone

Stateway Gardens - Gone

Ida B. Wells Homes - Gone

Rockwell Gardens - Gone

If you came into Chicago from Indiana, up the Dan Ryan Expressway, there were 
miles and miles of highrise projects along that corridor. They are all gone.

And the residents were spread (metastisized) across the Chicagoland and 
Northwest Indiana area.


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Re: [MBZ] 2007 CLS550 - 73k miles - $16,850

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

The cheapest cheap class.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: September 29, 2023 12:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2007 CLS550 - 73k miles - $16,850

My question was which 2007 Mercedes is currently worth the HIGHEST
percentage of its original MSRP

On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 12:59 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That’s nothing. Base MSRP on my 2001 CL600 was $117,200 in 2001 dollars,
> which translates to about $205,000 today. I paid $4,000 for mine in pretty
> good condition, which is equal to about $2300 in 2001. Floyd has probably
> done better with some of his W215/216 cars.
>
> In other words, I paid a smidge below 2.0% of the original selling price
> for the car. Or, if you’re a glass-half-empty person, the car took a 98%
> hit in depreciation over its current life.
>
> Good for us!
>
> -D
>
> > On Sep 29, 2023, at 12:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The invoice is shocking.  I wonder which 2007 Mercedes has the lowest
> > depreciation.
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 10:45 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The lowish miles would add to the price to make it more like $10-11k
> maybe
> >>
> >> --FT
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> >>> On Sep 28, 2023, at 10:35 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Fred needs to trade in his potato for a better camera. I guess he'll
> >> find out if his price is anywhere close to the ballpark.
> >>>
> >>>
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> https://chambana.craigslist.org/cto/d/champaign-2007-mercedes-cls-550/7671100809.html
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Re: [MBZ] I’m headed in this direction

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Auctioning them off, or getting to 150?


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: September 29, 2023 6:40 AM
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Subject: [MBZ] I’m headed in this direction

https://www.live5news.com/2023/09/29/man-is-auctioning-most-his-150-plus-classic-cars

—FT

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