[MBZ] ,92 600SEL

2007-06-25 Thread BillR
OK - I see that many on the list would love to have that MB SUV.  No
interest personally, as I am quite happy with my 300SD and don't need such a
thing. BUT, what does make me drool is something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=005sspagename=
STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1
ih=005sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1   -
not for me, but for my darling wife.  98k miles and I am sure everything is
just like they say - near showroom...  OK, I'm not that gullible.  I also
notice this same car sold on eBay just a few weeks ago.  Wonder what
happened?  The left good feedback for the buyer, but still have the car.   

Donald - I still plan to buy that 300SEL you have if it is available, but I
gotta tell you, if this one were to stay within a reasonable price range I'd
jump on it - and probably regret it later.

 

BillR

Jacksonville FL:

1981 300SD  290k miles

  

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Re: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL

2007-06-25 Thread John Freer
BillR,
I had that dream too and then I came across this. Now it's a nightmare.

As an example, looks like it takes 3 hours to change out the oil filter if
you don't break something in the process.


http://v12uberalles.com/


On 6/25/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK - I see that many on the list would love to have that MB SUV.  No
 interest personally, as I am quite happy with my 300SD and don't need such
 a
 thing. BUT, what does make me drool is something like this:

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=005sspagename=
 STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1
 ih=005sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1   -
 not for me, but for my darling wife.  98k miles and I am sure everything
 is
 just like they say - near showroom...  OK, I'm not that gullible.  I also
 notice this same car sold on eBay just a few weeks ago.  Wonder what
 happened?  The left good feedback for the buyer, but still have the car.

 Donald - I still plan to buy that 300SEL you have if it is available, but
 I
 gotta tell you, if this one were to stay within a reasonable price range
 I'd
 jump on it - and probably regret it later.



 BillR

 Jacksonville FL:

 1981 300SD  290k miles



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Re: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL

2007-06-25 Thread BillR
Thanks John - that is exactly what I need to see.  I had suspected, and this
illustrates, that such a vehicle [$128 - 138k new ?] was meant for folks
with live-in mechanics or DEEP pockets, neither of which I have.  As I can
only do the really simple stuff myself at this point [changing out the rear
lock actuators was about the limit for me] I have to view doing that stuff
at $85 an hour.  I have a good mechanic, but even so   
That is one car I suspect is best kept as a dream and not turned into a
nightmare.  Now if I should win the lottery...
BillR
 

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Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL

BillR,
I had that dream too and then I came across this. Now it's a nightmare.

As an example, looks like it takes 3 hours to change out the oil filter if
you don't break something in the process.


http://v12uberalles.com/


On 6/25/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK - I see that many on the list would love to have that MB SUV.  No
 interest personally, as I am quite happy with my 300SD and don't need such
 a
 thing. BUT, what does make me drool is something like this:

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=005sspagename=
 STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1
 ih=005sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1   -
 not for me, but for my darling wife.  98k miles and I am sure everything
 is
 just like they say - near showroom...  OK, I'm not that gullible.  I also
 notice this same car sold on eBay just a few weeks ago.  Wonder what
 happened?  The left good feedback for the buyer, but still have the car.

 Donald - I still plan to buy that 300SEL you have if it is available, but
 I
 gotta tell you, if this one were to stay within a reasonable price range
 I'd
 jump on it - and probably regret it later.



 BillR

 Jacksonville FL:

 1981 300SD  290k miles



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Re: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL

2007-06-25 Thread James Zavesky
On a 1992 600SEL it takes 15 minutes to RR the oil filter including
removing the Air Filter Box, MAF and finding the Mercedes oil filter
wrench/socket.

Changed plugs today - 30 minutes. Back is screaming in pain from being bent
over the motor. I KNOW that isn't on my list of rehab exercises from the
doctor. As long as I can stand straight by the time the wife gets home from
work I'm golden. 

Changed the transmission filter last week. That took two hours. An hour
longer than normal. Got stuck on the ground and couldn't get up. 

James Zavesky
1991 500SL 
1992 600SEL

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of John Freer
 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:37 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL
 
 BillR,
 I had that dream too and then I came across this. Now it's a nightmare.
 
 As an example, looks like it takes 3 hours to change out the oil filter if
 you don't break something in the process.
 
 
 http://v12uberalles.com/
 
 
 On 6/25/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  OK - I see that many on the list would love to have that MB SUV.  No
  interest personally, as I am quite happy with my 300SD and don't need
 such
  a
  thing. BUT, what does make me drool is something like this:
 
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
  
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=005sspagename
 =
  STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1
  ih=005sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1
 -
  not for me, but for my darling wife.  98k miles and I am sure everything
  is
  just like they say - near showroom...  OK, I'm not that gullible.  I
 also
  notice this same car sold on eBay just a few weeks ago.  Wonder what
  happened?  The left good feedback for the buyer, but still have the car.
 
  Donald - I still plan to buy that 300SEL you have if it is available,
 but
  I
  gotta tell you, if this one were to stay within a reasonable price range
  I'd
  jump on it - and probably regret it later.
 
 
 
  BillR
 
  Jacksonville FL:
 
  1981 300SD  290k miles
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL

2007-06-25 Thread James Zavesky
Nice cars. We have one. Amazing car. The motor has 402 hp not 386. It goes
from 0-60 in 6 seconds. 

In town it needs to be driven in 3rd else the motor never gets over 1300rpm
and carbons up the motor. Unfortunately the carbon gets into the oil system
and plugs one of the touchy lifters. Sea Foam seems to have cleared it up.
Car has Bio-degradeable wiring harness's under the hood as well as the ETA
that have potentiometer issues as well.

Depending on where the car lived you may or may not need an evaporator.

In addition to the wiring at 99kmi plan on doing the rear accumulators,
trans filter and hoses.

At 125kmi start planning on doing the timing chain, valve stem seals and
guides.

Oh yeah pulling away from a Red Light when it goes green STILL puts a smile
on my face. It's the 70's all over again but with air bags and ABS.


James Zavesky
1991 500SL 
1992 600SEL

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of BillR
 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:07 PM
 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
 Subject: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL
 
 OK - I see that many on the list would love to have that MB SUV.  No
 interest personally, as I am quite happy with my 300SD and don't need such
 a
 thing. BUT, what does make me drool is something like this:
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=005sspagenam
 e=
 STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1
 ih=005sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1   -
 not for me, but for my darling wife.  98k miles and I am sure everything
 is
 just like they say - near showroom...  OK, I'm not that gullible.  I also
 notice this same car sold on eBay just a few weeks ago.  Wonder what
 happened?  The left good feedback for the buyer, but still have the car.
 
 Donald - I still plan to buy that 300SEL you have if it is available, but
 I
 gotta tell you, if this one were to stay within a reasonable price range
 I'd
 jump on it - and probably regret it later.
 
 
 
 BillR
 
 Jacksonville FL:
 
 1981 300SD  290k miles
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL

2007-06-25 Thread LarryT
I agree - although I'd like a MB SUV with a diesel engine ;-)  - that V12 
W140 is at the top of my list when I win the lottery - until then, 
fergetaboutit.  Way to expensive maintanence IMHO.   And I'd prefer a W140 
over the newest S class - the design of which I find odd.

There's a similar car in local newpaper 93(?) 600SEL with bad engine LOL 
course, dropping a diesel 2.5 turbo would be interesting - not fast, perhaps 
not economical because it'd be running in turbo mode constantly, but it 
would be cheap to maintain - engine-wise at least - that bio-degradable 
wiring harness is such a scream!  But perhaps they meant well. LOL

They're asking $500 OBO - Hey!!  I've got a 89 van that won't sell (has 
wheelchair lift) with a 5.0L  V8 - that would be nice in that 600!

Later!

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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- Original Message - 
From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:07 PM
Subject: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL


 OK - I see that many on the list would love to have that MB SUV.  No
 interest personally, as I am quite happy with my 300SD and don't need such 
 a
 thing. BUT, what does make me drool is something like this:

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=005sspagename=
 STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1
 ih=005sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1   -
 not for me, but for my darling wife.  98k miles and I am sure everything 
 is
 just like they say - near showroom...  OK, I'm not that gullible.  I also
 notice this same car sold on eBay just a few weeks ago.  Wonder what
 happened?  The left good feedback for the buyer, but still have the car.

 Donald - I still plan to buy that 300SEL you have if it is available, but 
 I
 gotta tell you, if this one were to stay within a reasonable price range 
 I'd
 jump on it - and probably regret it later.



 BillR

 Jacksonville FL:

 1981 300SD  290k miles



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Re: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL

2007-06-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I do not find any of the new Mercedes attractive or interesting.  The 
S-class just looks blah, about like a Honda or something.

LarryT wrote:
 I agree - although I'd like a MB SUV with a diesel engine ;-)  - that V12 
 W140 is at the top of my list when I win the lottery - until then, 
 fergetaboutit.  Way to expensive maintanence IMHO.   And I'd prefer a W140 
 over the newest S class - the design of which I find odd.
 
 There's a similar car in local newpaper 93(?) 600SEL with bad engine LOL 
 course, dropping a diesel 2.5 turbo would be interesting - not fast, perhaps 
 not economical because it'd be running in turbo mode constantly, but it 
 would be cheap to maintain - engine-wise at least - that bio-degradable 
 wiring harness is such a scream!  But perhaps they meant well. LOL
 
 They're asking $500 OBO - Hey!!  I've got a 89 van that won't sell (has 
 wheelchair lift) with a 5.0L  V8 - that would be nice in that 600!
 
 Later!
 
 Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
 www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
 Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
 PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
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 .

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  94 E420, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo,
  90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL

2007-06-25 Thread E M
I thought the early W140 V12s had 402 but later, the dropped a little to
386?
Ed
300E

On 25/06/07, James Zavesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nice cars. We have one. Amazing car. The motor has 402 hp not 386. It goes
 from 0-60 in 6 seconds.

 In town it needs to be driven in 3rd else the motor never gets over
 1300rpm
 and carbons up the motor. Unfortunately the carbon gets into the oil
 system
 and plugs one of the touchy lifters. Sea Foam seems to have cleared it up.
 Car has Bio-degradeable wiring harness's under the hood as well as the ETA
 that have potentiometer issues as well.

 Depending on where the car lived you may or may not need an evaporator.

 In addition to the wiring at 99kmi plan on doing the rear accumulators,
 trans filter and hoses.

 At 125kmi start planning on doing the timing chain, valve stem seals and
 guides.

 Oh yeah pulling away from a Red Light when it goes green STILL puts a
 smile
 on my face. It's the 70's all over again but with air bags and ABS.


 James Zavesky
 1991 500SL
 1992 600SEL

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of BillR
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:07 PM
  To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
  Subject: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL
 
  OK - I see that many on the list would love to have that MB SUV.  No
  interest personally, as I am quite happy with my 300SD and don't need
 such
  a
  thing. BUT, what does make me drool is something like this:
 
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
  
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=005sspagenam
  e=
  STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1
  ih=005sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150135362950rd=1,1
 -
  not for me, but for my darling wife.  98k miles and I am sure everything
  is
  just like they say - near showroom...  OK, I'm not that gullible.  I
 also
  notice this same car sold on eBay just a few weeks ago.  Wonder what
  happened?  The left good feedback for the buyer, but still have the car.
 
  Donald - I still plan to buy that 300SEL you have if it is available,
 but
  I
  gotta tell you, if this one were to stay within a reasonable price range
  I'd
  jump on it - and probably regret it later.
 
 
 
  BillR
 
  Jacksonville FL:
 
  1981 300SD  290k miles
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL

2007-06-25 Thread E M
I have to say, I really like the new S Class.  I looked at a new one, and
also the coupe.  I think there was a big step forward in build quality over
the last S, from what I could see in 20 minutes anyway.  The previous one,
(the one after the W140) was cheap junk to me.  You could see the spot welds
through the paint on the ones I saw on the inner door.  I ran my hand over
one once and cut my finger!!  I thought it was a one off, but then looked on
other cars, and saw the same quality.  I also found it really
uncomfortable.  The only thing I don't like about the new S is that AMG seem
to be going a little overboard with the add ons.  Are they trying to woe the
kids who buy Honda civics?  Glad to see they are getting back on track with
quality.  It was kind of sad to watch them over the past several years.
Now, if they could just get that proper thud in the doors back. :-)

Ed
300E

On 25/06/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I do not find any of the new Mercedes attractive or interesting.  The
 S-class just looks blah, about like a Honda or something.

 LarryT wrote:
  I agree - although I'd like a MB SUV with a diesel engine ;-)  - that
 V12
  W140 is at the top of my list when I win the lottery - until then,
  fergetaboutit.  Way to expensive maintanence IMHO.   And I'd prefer a
 W140
  over the newest S class - the design of which I find odd.
 
  There's a similar car in local newpaper 93(?) 600SEL with bad engine
 LOL
  course, dropping a diesel 2.5 turbo would be interesting - not fast,
 perhaps
  not economical because it'd be running in turbo mode constantly, but it
  would be cheap to maintain - engine-wise at least - that bio-degradable
  wiring harness is such a scream!  But perhaps they meant well. LOL
 
  They're asking $500 OBO - Hey!!  I've got a 89 van that won't sell (has
  wheelchair lift) with a 5.0L  V8 - that would be nice in that 600!
 
  Later!
 
  Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
  www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
  Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
  PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
  Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
  Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/
  .
 
 --
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   94 E420, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo,
   90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
   81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] ,92 600SEL

2007-06-25 Thread Rich Thomas
You need that thing they advertise to geezers on TV!  I'm stuck under 
my Benz and I can't get up!

--R

James Zavesky wrote:
 Changed the transmission filter last week. That took two hours. An hour
 longer than normal. Got stuck on the ground and couldn't get up. 

 James Zavesky
 1991 500SL 
 1992 600SEL
   
   

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