Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: Eats?

2020-03-31 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>Yes, professional baking recipes are all done by >percent weight relative to 
>the weight of the flour.

This would be where metric measurements would have a clear preference. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: Eats?

2020-03-31 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
fmiser via Mercedes  writes:

> I don't have a scale, but from what I understand, mass measure is
> SO much more accurate and repeatable than volume measure -
> especially for flour.

Yes, professional baking recipes are all done by percent weight relative
to the weight of the flour. For example a recipe might call for 66%
water, 2% salt, etc. So if you are making a batch of dough with 50lb of
flour you would weigh out 33lb of water, 1lb of salt, etc. This is very
easy to scale up or down to whatever quantity you want to make.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: Eats?

2020-03-30 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Greg wrote:

> I'm pretty sure that 1 lb. of grain yields 1 lb. of flour.

Yup.  But I think Dan is asking for a volume measure.  Cups or
liters or other such measure.

I don't have a scale, but from what I understand, mass measure is
SO much more accurate and repeatable than volume measure -
especially for flour.

> Because whole grains have less gluten, I add gluten to my
> recipe.

Whole grains can have just as much.  But the source has to be a
high gluten wheat berry!  Hard white wheat is my preference for
bread.

> It's worth it for me because I can't find real whole grain bread
> with a significant portion of rye commercially, and certainly
> none that are as fresh and as good as what I make.

Rye has almost no gluten.  So if the rye is a significant portion
of your flour even a really high gluten wheat may not be enough.
So then adding gluten makes sense.

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: Eats?

2020-03-30 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
I'm pretty sure that 1 lb. of grain yields 1 lb. of flour. I weigh out the 
grain and only mill as much as I use for the recipe so the flour is fresh. On 
the Kitchenaid brand of mill I was never able to get really fine flour. With 
the FGM I run it through once to crack the grain, then 3X at the finest 
setting. Because whole grains have less gluten, I add gluten to my recipe. Some 
other list members have other brand mills as I recall.

Milling grain to make a large loaf takes about 20 min. during which time I can 
gather other ingredients. Once everything is in the machine I only need to slit 
the top of the dough just before the baking starts, then dump out the loaf on a 
rack when it's done.

It's worth it for me because I can't find real whole grain bread with a 
significant portion of rye commercially, and certainly none that are as fresh 
and as good as what I make.

G.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff 
via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 11:25 AM
To: Okie Benz
Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Eats?

Just out of curiosity, how much grain does it take to produce a cup or pound of 
flour? I’ve seen the grain mills before, but was concerned about it being far 
more effort than it was worth.

-D

> On Mar 30, 2020, at 2:19 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I found a couple of older commercial models on CL, one is mine and one I gave 
> to a son. They are 100% duty cycle and are legal for trade. My grain mill is 
> the Family Grain Mill made in Germany. If you enjoy whole grain flour, 
> freshness is critical. The flour degrades quickly; whole grain kernels stay 
> fresh much longer. My wheat comes in tins from the LDS store, the rye I put 
> up in vacuum sealed canning jars and use up in 6 mos. or so.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff 
> via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 10:53 AM
> To: Okie Benz
> Cc: Dan Penoff
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Eats?
> 
> After 20+ years of use, we just retired our KSM90 KitchenAid stand mixer 
> (tilt head) and moved up to the larger 6 quart bowl lift model. That thing 
> will rip your arm off, given the opportunity. I only wish the bowls would sit 
> flat on the counter. Fortunately, all of the PTO driven accessories work with 
> both, so we were able to keep those. Never got a grain mill, but have a 
> grinder and pasta maker.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2020, at 1:25 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm giving the InstantPot a lot of use, along with the KitchenAid Stand 
>> mixer and grain mill, not to mention the Panasonic bread machine. I made a 
>> great beef pot roast, whole grain bread, steel cut oats, and hard-boiled 
>> eggs. I've discovered dried Calabrese chilies for the pot roast are amazing.
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt 
>> Raymond via Mercedes
>> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 8:51 AM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Cc: Curt Raymond
>> Subject: [MBZ] OT: Eats?
>> 
>> What are you folks eating during your time in, or are you ordering out?
>> Today marks 16 days since we've eaten out. I see a lot of the facebookers 
>> complaining about gaining weight eating at home but I've moved down to the 
>> last hole on my belt.
>> We've been working through some of the cabinets, yesterday Angie made 
>> chicken soup and added in some leftover venison sausage. She's really into 
>> the venison sausage, I think we've already eaten 4 packages.
>> Other than that we discovered a jerk sauce on moose steak which is really 
>> spicy and really good...
>> Friday I made a pork pot roast that was really good. I made popovers to go 
>> with that. I really love popovers.
>> 
>> -Curt
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