Re: [MBZ] 107 trans

2012-11-10 Thread Dieselhead 

Update 2 and Final report:

Transmission shifts again.  All seems to be normal.  Indications are 
it was a collapsed filter.  The guy charged $80 to change fluid and 
filter, and he provided the fluid.  I provided the filter.  (Thanks 
Q!)


So, for me, it will be Mann filters form now on, per recommendation 
of Sun Valley.



Update 1:

I had Q send out a Mann filter and gasket.  Today the local 
Independent shop put it in.  on the hoist, the trans shifted through 
all the gears.  TOmorrow he is going to road test it.  I'd have to 
check the book for her car, but I think I put the filter and fluid in 
last march, but it may have been Christmas.  Certainaly WELL under 
30k miles.  Probably 10 k.


So it appears that perhaps the elring filter DID collapse, as they 
are known to do in the 124.  I used the elring filter because it was 
one I had before the filter collapsed on the 124.  I plan to ONLY buy 
Mann from now on.  Q will provide either.  But for minimal differenc 
in price, the risk of a filter collapse and being 500 miles form home 
is not worth any savings on the filter.


So Mr. Q, when I call in for trans filters, it will MANN for me.

Next update after the road test tomorrow to see if it is "cured" or not.

(85 380SL)

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Re: [MBZ] 107 trans

2012-11-09 Thread Dieselhead 

Update 1

I had Q send out a Mann filter and gasket.  Today the local 
Independent shop put it in.  on the hoist, the trans shifted through 
all the gears.  TOmorrow he is going to road test it.  I'd have to 
check the book for her car, but I think I put the filter and fluid in 
last march, but it may have been Christmas.  Certainaly WELL under 
30k miles.  Probably 10 k.


So it appears that perhaps the elring filter DID collapse, as they 
are known to do in the 124.  I used the elring filter because it was 
one I had before the filter collapsed on the 124.  I plan to ONLY buy 
Mann from now on.  Q will provide either.  But for minimal differenc 
in price, the risk of a filter collapse and being 500 miles form home 
is not worth any savings on the filter.


So Mr. Q, when I call in for trans filters, it will MANN for me.

Next update after the road test tomorrow to see if it is "cured" or not.

(85 380SL)

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Re: [MBZ] 107 trans

2012-11-05 Thread Dieselhead 

Check to make sure the kickdown switch isn't stuck, too.

Peter


Yeah, good idea.  I thought of it too.  Here are the results:

"Shifting to neutral helps. I didn't take it out of the neighborhood 
so I'm not sure if that works past the first shift or not. Not yet 
anyway. The kickdown switch was out and able to be pressed in 
repeatedly and came right back out with no change. I didn't do 
anything with wires to it."


So, it appears not to be a problem with the kickdown, although that 
is not 100% certain.  Bergstra has a video about his SDL not shifting 
after fluid/filter change.  THat was interesting.  It was the 
kickdown switch in that case.


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Re: [MBZ] 107 trans

2012-11-04 Thread Peter Frederick 

Check to make sure the kickdown switch isn't stuck, too.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 107 trans

2012-11-04 Thread Curt Raymond 
My '96 Dodge Dakota did that, Angie drove all the way home in low one day, boy 
she was happy with me...

I sucked a quart of fluid out with my topsider and put in a quart of the Lucas 
trans stuff. Flailed it around for a half an hour, let it sit over night and 
the next day it was improved. It improved more over the next couple days until 
it was basically normal. I had a filter and fluid and it went another 20,000 
miles.
My best guess was it had a sticky valve and the high detergent (even for ATF) 
Lucas stuff helped flush it out.

Maybe get her to try slipping it into neutral while moving and then back into 
drive, that helped on my Dakota.

-Curt

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#1 daughter called and said she had been out driving earlier this 
afternoon, came home, and left again.  When she turned onto the major 
highway, the car would not shift out of low.  She tried turning the 
car off and restarting.  The fluid was between the min and max marks. 
Fluid and filter were changed a year ago.

1985 380SL

Neutral (Park) safety switch is getting flakey, but works after the 
shifter is run down and back.

Kinda sounds like the 124 elring filter collapse.  But I never heard 
of that in a 107, or anything but a 124.

Anyone else have any other ideas?

total vacuum failure (unhooked hose to modulator) should result in 
very harsh and high RPM shifts.


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Re: [MBZ] 107 trans

2012-11-04 Thread Dieselhead 

Filter and fluid change is cheap and easy.

Plugged fuel filters can affect Trans shifting in diesels.

On Sunday, November 4, 2012, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:


 #1 daughter called and said she had been out driving earlier this
 afternoon, came home, and left again.  When she turned onto the major
 highway, the car would not shift out of low.  She tried turning the car off
 and restarting.  The fluid was between the min and max marks. Fluid and
 filter were changed a year ago.

 1985 380SL

 Neutral (Park) safety switch is getting flakey, but works after the
 shifter is run down and back.

 Kinda sounds like the 124 elring filter collapse.  But I never heard of
 that in a 107, or anything but a 124.

 Anyone else have any other ideas?

 total vacuum failure (unhooked hose to modulator) should result in very

 > harsh and high RPM shifts.
 >


Forgot to add that it will go forward and in reverse.

What is the failure mode of a modulator?


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Re: [MBZ] 107 trans

2012-11-04 Thread Brian Toscano 
Filter and fluid change is cheap and easy.

Plugged fuel filters can affect Trans shifting in diesels.

On Sunday, November 4, 2012, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> #1 daughter called and said she had been out driving earlier this
> afternoon, came home, and left again.  When she turned onto the major
> highway, the car would not shift out of low.  She tried turning the car off
> and restarting.  The fluid was between the min and max marks. Fluid and
> filter were changed a year ago.
>
> 1985 380SL
>
> Neutral (Park) safety switch is getting flakey, but works after the
> shifter is run down and back.
>
> Kinda sounds like the 124 elring filter collapse.  But I never heard of
> that in a 107, or anything but a 124.
>
> Anyone else have any other ideas?
>
> total vacuum failure (unhooked hose to modulator) should result in very
> harsh and high RPM shifts.
>
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[MBZ] 107 trans

2012-11-04 Thread Dieselhead 
#1 daughter called and said she had been out driving earlier this 
afternoon, came home, and left again.  When she turned onto the major 
highway, the car would not shift out of low.  She tried turning the 
car off and restarting.  The fluid was between the min and max marks. 
Fluid and filter were changed a year ago.


1985 380SL

Neutral (Park) safety switch is getting flakey, but works after the 
shifter is run down and back.


Kinda sounds like the 124 elring filter collapse.  But I never heard 
of that in a 107, or anything but a 124.


Anyone else have any other ideas?

total vacuum failure (unhooked hose to modulator) should result in 
very harsh and high RPM shifts.


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