Re: [MBZ] 1972 280SEL w. 4.5? liter engine 87k original miles? Asking$2000 OBO
Supposedly, MB engineers said this sedan was the best they ever built (the remar was made in the mid 90s) and having owned 2 280SEs 4.5 - I can believe it. Except for rust problems (rockers, bumper support, headlight boxes) they were awesome. Engine got 14/15 mpg but would spin the tires at 45mph when passing gear was engaged. Wish I still had one - wish I could afford to maintain one properly too -- ;-) Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts Test Results - http://members.rennlist.com/oil/ http://www.scamfreetop10.com/1233.html . - Original Message - From: s223x...@juno.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: s223x...@juno.com Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 3:17 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1972 280SEL w. 4.5? liter engine 87k original miles? Asking$2000 OBO I have No interest in this car, but friend told me about it; looks good in out; may need some paint supposed to have 87,000 miles on it? is this inda HIGH price for old MB? or is it a collector car Location; Ok. hwy 9 in Stigler, Ok. Steve Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! Shop now at http://offers.juno.com/TGL1141/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1972 280SEL w. 4.5? liter engine 87k original miles?Asking$2000 OBO
Larry ;aptly put . These are lovely cars with a touch of elegance and class. mak 300sel 3.5 - Original Message - From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1972 280SEL w. 4.5? liter engine 87k original miles?Asking$2000 OBO Supposedly, MB engineers said this sedan was the best they ever built (the remar was made in the mid 90s) and having owned 2 280SEs 4.5 - I can believe it. Except for rust problems (rockers, bumper support, headlight boxes) they were awesome. Engine got 14/15 mpg but would spin the tires at 45mph when passing gear was engaged. Wish I still had one - wish I could afford to maintain one properly too -- ;-) Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts Test Results - http://members.rennlist.com/oil/ http://www.scamfreetop10.com/1233.html . - Original Message - From: s223x...@juno.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: s223x...@juno.com Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 3:17 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1972 280SEL w. 4.5? liter engine 87k original miles? Asking$2000 OBO I have No interest in this car, but friend told me about it; looks good in out; may need some paint supposed to have 87,000 miles on it? is this inda HIGH price for old MB? or is it a collector car Location; Ok. hwy 9 in Stigler, Ok. Steve Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! Shop now at http://offers.juno.com/TGL1141/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1972 280SEL w. 4.5? liter engine 87k original miles?Asking$2000 OBO
Let's not get carried away in heaping praise on these dinosaurs. They are in reality gas hogs with pathetic 3 speed transmissions, clunky vinyl interiors, easily frozen heater levers, and prone to rust. I will admit that they are spacious and comfy, however. On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:39 AM, MAK ma...@isb.comsats.net.pk wrote: Larry ;aptly put . These are lovely cars with a touch of elegance and class. mak 300sel 3.5 - Original Message - From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1972 280SEL w. 4.5? liter engine 87k original miles?Asking$2000 OBO Supposedly, MB engineers said this sedan was the best they ever built (the remar was made in the mid 90s) and having owned 2 280SEs 4.5 - I can believe it. Except for rust problems (rockers, bumper support, headlight boxes) they were awesome. Engine got 14/15 mpg but would spin the tires at 45mph when passing gear was engaged. Wish I still had one - wish I could afford to maintain one properly too -- ;-) Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts Test Results - http://members.rennlist.com/oil/ http://www.scamfreetop10.com/1233.html . - Original Message - From: s223x...@juno.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: s223x...@juno.com Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 3:17 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1972 280SEL w. 4.5? liter engine 87k original miles? Asking$2000 OBO I have No interest in this car, but friend told me about it; looks good in out; may need some paint supposed to have 87,000 miles on it? is this inda HIGH price for old MB? or is it a collector car Location; Ok. hwy 9 in Stigler, Ok. Steve Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! Shop now at http://offers.juno.com/TGL1141/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081219/f41ecc4c/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1972 280SEL w. 4.5? liter engine 87k original miles?Asking$2000 OBO
andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes: Let's not get carried away in heaping praise on these dinosaurs. They are in reality gas hogs with pathetic 3 speed transmissions, clunky vinyl interiors, easily frozen heater levers, and prone to rust. I will admit that they are spacious and comfy, however. Let's not forget visually stunning and beautiful. I think these are some of the best looking MB designs. Todays stylings are cookie cutter, generic by comparison. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1972 280SEL w. 4.5? liter engine 87k original miles?Asking$2000 OBO
Don't get me wrong. I agree entirely about the looks of the W108/109 body style. All that glass and the colorful interior lights made for a regal drive, especially at night. I owned and restored a W109 1971 300SE L 3.5 that I loved. But it had a 4 speed transmission, leather seats, burled walnut interior and air suspension. Those luxury appointments made all the difference. On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes: Let's not get carried away in heaping praise on these dinosaurs. They are in reality gas hogs with pathetic 3 speed transmissions, clunky vinyl interiors, easily frozen heater levers, and prone to rust. I will admit that they are spacious and comfy, however. Let's not forget visually stunning and beautiful. I think these are some of the best looking MB designs. Todays stylings are cookie cutter, generic by comparison. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081219/dc3ec492/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1972 280SEL w. 4.5? liter engine 87k original miles?Asking$2000 OBO
If you guys don't stop it, I'll have to add one of these to my wish list!! lol Ed 300E 2008/12/19 andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Don't get me wrong. I agree entirely about the looks of the W108/109 body style. All that glass and the colorful interior lights made for a regal drive, especially at night. I owned and restored a W109 1971 300SE L 3.5 that I loved. But it had a 4 speed transmission, leather seats, burled walnut interior and air suspension. Those luxury appointments made all the difference. On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes: Let's not get carried away in heaping praise on these dinosaurs. They are in reality gas hogs with pathetic 3 speed transmissions, clunky vinyl interiors, easily frozen heater levers, and prone to rust. I will admit that they are spacious and comfy, however. Let's not forget visually stunning and beautiful. I think these are some of the best looking MB designs. Todays stylings are cookie cutter, generic by comparison. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081219/dc3ec492/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081219/dc15990f/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1972 280SEL w. 4.5? liter engine 87k original miles?Asking$2000 OBO
Ah, but they are a joy to drive on the highway. Super sweet between 90 and 100 mph, and they still get 12 mph while you do it. That pathetic 3-speed usually lasts longer than the car (and was used from 1988 to 1981 in the W108/109 and W116 cars) and is silky smooth. The pathetic one was the 4-speed used with the M100 in the W109 6.3L -- never did hold up with crap and didn't have a torque converter, used a fluid coupling instead. Very very common to have to get it rebuilt every 50,000 miles or so, and even they they slip if you romp on it a lot (which is very tempting, I'm told). Peter On Dec 19, 2008, at 2:41 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Let's not get carried away in heaping praise on these dinosaurs. They are in reality gas hogs with pathetic 3 speed transmissions, clunky vinyl interiors, easily frozen heater levers, and prone to rust. I will admit that they are spacious and comfy, however. On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:39 AM, MAK ma...@isb.comsats.net.pk wrote: Larry ;aptly put . These are lovely cars with a touch of elegance and class. mak 300sel 3.5 - Original Message - From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1972 280SEL w. 4.5? liter engine 87k original miles?Asking$2000 OBO Supposedly, MB engineers said this sedan was the best they ever built (the remar was made in the mid 90s) and having owned 2 280SEs 4.5 - I can believe it. Except for rust problems (rockers, bumper support, headlight boxes) they were awesome. Engine got 14/15 mpg but would spin the tires at 45mph when passing gear was engaged. Wish I still had one - wish I could afford to maintain one properly too -- ;-) Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts Test Results - http://members.rennlist.com/oil/ http://www.scamfreetop10.com/1233.html . - Original Message - From: s223x...@juno.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: s223x...@juno.com Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 3:17 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1972 280SEL w. 4.5? liter engine 87k original miles? Asking$2000 OBO I have No interest in this car, but friend told me about it; looks good in out; may need some paint supposed to have 87,000 miles on it? is this inda HIGH price for old MB? or is it a collector car Location; Ok. hwy 9 in Stigler, Ok. Steve Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! Shop now at http://offers.juno.com/TGL1141/?u=http://www.ftd.com/ 17007 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/ attachments/20081219/f41ecc4c/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1972 280SEL w. 4.5? liter engine 87k original miles? Asking$2000 OBO
I have had a few 108's 109's but they have been parts cars. I would love to have one that is decent but the only thing about them that scares me is the king pin suspension. LarryT wrote: Supposedly, MB engineers said this sedan was the best they ever built (the remar was made in the mid 90s) and having owned 2 280SEs 4.5 - I can believe it. Except for rust problems (rockers, bumper support, headlight boxes) they were awesome. Engine got 14/15 mpg but would spin the tires at 45mph when passing gear was engaged. Wish I still had one - wish I could afford to maintain one properly too -- ;-) Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts Test Results - http://members.rennlist.com/oil/ -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1972 280SEL w. 4.5? liter engine 87k original miles? Asking$2000 OBO
Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: I have had a few 108's 109's but they have been parts cars. I would love to have one that is decent but the only thing about them that scares me is the king pin suspension. I think as long as you grease them regularly they can be fairly trouble-free ( I say this having never owned one ). Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1972 280SEL w. 4.5? liter engine 87k original miles? Asking$2000 OBO
This belongs on Banned. --R Allan Streib wrote: I think as long as you grease them regularly they can be fairly trouble-free ( I say this having never owned one ). Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1972 280SEL w. 4.5? liter engine 87k original miles? Asking$2000 OBO
lmao. Ed 300E 2008/12/19 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net This belongs on Banned. --R Allan Streib wrote: I think as long as you grease them regularly they can be fairly trouble-free ( I say this having never owned one ). Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081219/1babddda/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1972 280SEL w. 4.5? liter engine 87k original miles? Asking$2000 OBO
Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: I have had a few 108's 109's but they have been parts cars. I would love to have one that is decent but the only thing about them that scares me is the king pin suspension. Allan wrote: I think as long as you grease them regularly they can be fairly trouble-free ( I say this having never owned one ). Can't speak for the trouble free part 'cause I sold my long before I could tell. But it was easy to rebuild and I rather liked the engineering I saw. I would not be disappointed if I were to trust my life to another one. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1972 280SEL w. 4.5? liter engine 87k original miles? Asking$2000 OBO
IF they were greased properly, they are usually in great shape. True, a huge pain to work on, but mine are near perfect. One upper bushing was improperly installed so shot, but else fine. Greasing them every 3000 miles does the trick. Peter On Dec 19, 2008, at 5:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have had a few 108's 109's but they have been parts cars. I would love to have one that is decent but the only thing about them that scares me is the king pin suspension. LarryT wrote: Supposedly, MB engineers said this sedan was the best they ever built (the remar was made in the mid 90s) and having owned 2 280SEs 4.5 - I can believe it. Except for rust problems (rockers, bumper support, headlight boxes) they were awesome. Engine got 14/15 mpg but would spin the tires at 45mph when passing gear was engaged. Wish I still had one - wish I could afford to maintain one properly too -- ;-) Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts Test Results - http://members.rennlist.com/oil/ -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1972 280SEL w. 4.5? liter engine 87k original miles? Asking $2000 OBO
I have No interest in this car, but friend told me about it; looks good in out; may need some paint supposed to have 87,000 miles on it? is this inda HIGH price for old MB? or is it a collector car Location; Ok. hwy 9 in Stigler, Ok. Steve Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! Shop now at http://offers.juno.com/TGL1141/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1972 280SEL w. 4.5? liter engine 87k original miles? Asking$2000 OBO
I've had 2 of these and they are great cars. Value can easily exceed 8 - 10K for a pristine example. A 300SEL 4.5 can go for even more. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of s223x...@juno.com Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 2:17 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: s223x...@juno.com Subject: [MBZ] 1972 280SEL w. 4.5? liter engine 87k original miles? Asking$2000 OBO I have No interest in this car, but friend told me about it; looks good in out; may need some paint supposed to have 87,000 miles on it? is this inda HIGH price for old MB? or is it a collector car Location; Ok. hwy 9 in Stigler, Ok. Steve Save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD! Shop now at http://offers.juno.com/TGL1141/?u=http://www.ftd.com/17007 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1852 - Release Date: 12/16/2008 6:11 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1852 - Release Date: 12/16/2008 6:11 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
