Re: [MBZ] 1979 230 D Electrical Starting Problem

2007-02-19 Thread Rich Thomas
Check the engine ground strap, down under the firewall attaches 
above/side of the transmission.  Mine went loose at one time, sorta 
acted like that, with some occasional fireworks at cranking.  (I'm 
presuming the 240 is like the 300 in that regard)


--R

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Car is a 1979 240D

Symptons:  A few days ago, went to start, got a click click sound, panel 
lights went on for a second then went off when ingnition was put to full 
right position.  I then put to full left, off for a second and tried again 
and got the normal responce and car started.


Yesterday, same as above happened after car started fine and I had shut it 
down for fuel.  I was again able to start the car based on the above, car 
had same sysmptoms.


Today went to start her and panel lights went for a second, a click noise 
and all went out when it was in the ignition all right position.  Battery is 
at 13.08 volts across battery terminals, no signs the alternator is foul. 
The radio works when ignition is in the #1 radio position and when ignition 
switch is in the start position I am getting a reading on my fuel gage, just 
no lights on panel and not even a click from the (soleniond on starter???) 
car.


Just need some exact paths to take to trouble shoot.  Looking at the one 
line electrical drawing looks like there is a transmission in park switch. I 
do not see a relay in the starter circuit to go bad.  But if it is a bad 
starter or coil would this cause the panel lights to not work?


Any help would appreciate it as this is my only driver.

Regards Tom Scordato 




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Re: [MBZ] 1979 230 D Electrical Starting Problem

2007-02-19 Thread Peter Frederick
Very likely problem.  If that ground strap is loose, the current 
usually returns via the shift or kickdown linkage, and causes problems 
there, too.


Peter




Re: [MBZ] 1979 230 D Electrical Starting Problem

2007-02-19 Thread Jim Cathey
Today went to start her and panel lights went for a second, a click 
noise

and all went out when it was in the ignition all right position.


Absolutely classic symptoms of a bad battery connection.  Check
them all, both ends, grounds included.

-- Jim




[MBZ] 1979 230 D Electrical Starting Problem

2007-02-18 Thread ts

Car is a 1979 240D

Symptons:  A few days ago, went to start, got a click click sound, panel 
lights went on for a second then went off when ingnition was put to full 
right position.  I then put to full left, off for a second and tried again 
and got the normal responce and car started.


Yesterday, same as above happened after car started fine and I had shut it 
down for fuel.  I was again able to start the car based on the above, car 
had same sysmptoms.


Today went to start her and panel lights went for a second, a click noise 
and all went out when it was in the ignition all right position.  Battery is 
at 13.08 volts across battery terminals, no signs the alternator is foul. 
The radio works when ignition is in the #1 radio position and when ignition 
switch is in the start position I am getting a reading on my fuel gage, just 
no lights on panel and not even a click from the (soleniond on starter???) 
car.


Just need some exact paths to take to trouble shoot.  Looking at the one 
line electrical drawing looks like there is a transmission in park switch. I 
do not see a relay in the starter circuit to go bad.  But if it is a bad 
starter or coil would this cause the panel lights to not work?


Any help would appreciate it as this is my only driver.

Regards Tom Scordato 






Re: [MBZ] 1979 230 D Electrical Starting Problem

2007-02-18 Thread LarryT
It should start in either P or D - if the neutral start switch is working 
properly.


It sounds like poor connections somewhere - at the battery, starter or 
ground.  Could always be a smaller wire somewhere in the starting circuit 
making partial contact.


Start with the obvious - battery cables, then starter cables, grounds, and 
on and on.


There's not any real shortcuts - just work thru one possibility at a time -

I hope you have a warm place to work?

Good luck -

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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Car is a 1979 240D

Symptons:  A few days ago, went to start, got a click click sound, panel
lights went on for a second then went off when ingnition was put to full
right position.  I then put to full left, off for a second and tried again
and got the normal responce and car started.

Yesterday, same as above happened after car started fine and I had shut it
down for fuel.  I was again able to start the car based on the above, car
had same sysmptoms.

Today went to start her and panel lights went for a second, a click noise
and all went out when it was in the ignition all right position.  Battery 
is

at 13.08 volts across battery terminals, no signs the alternator is foul.
The radio works when ignition is in the #1 radio position and when 
ignition
switch is in the start position I am getting a reading on my fuel gage, 
just

no lights on panel and not even a click from the (soleniond on starter???)
car.

Just need some exact paths to take to trouble shoot.  Looking at the one
line electrical drawing looks like there is a transmission in park switch. 
I

do not see a relay in the starter circuit to go bad.  But if it is a bad
starter or coil would this cause the panel lights to not work?

Any help would appreciate it as this is my only driver.

Regards Tom Scordato



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