Re: [MBZ] 1979 230 D Electrical Starting Problem
Check the engine ground strap, down under the firewall attaches above/side of the transmission. Mine went loose at one time, sorta acted like that, with some occasional fireworks at cranking. (I'm presuming the 240 is like the 300 in that regard) --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Car is a 1979 240D Symptons: A few days ago, went to start, got a click click sound, panel lights went on for a second then went off when ingnition was put to full right position. I then put to full left, off for a second and tried again and got the normal responce and car started. Yesterday, same as above happened after car started fine and I had shut it down for fuel. I was again able to start the car based on the above, car had same sysmptoms. Today went to start her and panel lights went for a second, a click noise and all went out when it was in the ignition all right position. Battery is at 13.08 volts across battery terminals, no signs the alternator is foul. The radio works when ignition is in the #1 radio position and when ignition switch is in the start position I am getting a reading on my fuel gage, just no lights on panel and not even a click from the (soleniond on starter???) car. Just need some exact paths to take to trouble shoot. Looking at the one line electrical drawing looks like there is a transmission in park switch. I do not see a relay in the starter circuit to go bad. But if it is a bad starter or coil would this cause the panel lights to not work? Any help would appreciate it as this is my only driver. Regards Tom Scordato ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1979 230 D Electrical Starting Problem
Very likely problem. If that ground strap is loose, the current usually returns via the shift or kickdown linkage, and causes problems there, too. Peter
Re: [MBZ] 1979 230 D Electrical Starting Problem
Today went to start her and panel lights went for a second, a click noise and all went out when it was in the ignition all right position. Absolutely classic symptoms of a bad battery connection. Check them all, both ends, grounds included. -- Jim
[MBZ] 1979 230 D Electrical Starting Problem
Car is a 1979 240D Symptons: A few days ago, went to start, got a click click sound, panel lights went on for a second then went off when ingnition was put to full right position. I then put to full left, off for a second and tried again and got the normal responce and car started. Yesterday, same as above happened after car started fine and I had shut it down for fuel. I was again able to start the car based on the above, car had same sysmptoms. Today went to start her and panel lights went for a second, a click noise and all went out when it was in the ignition all right position. Battery is at 13.08 volts across battery terminals, no signs the alternator is foul. The radio works when ignition is in the #1 radio position and when ignition switch is in the start position I am getting a reading on my fuel gage, just no lights on panel and not even a click from the (soleniond on starter???) car. Just need some exact paths to take to trouble shoot. Looking at the one line electrical drawing looks like there is a transmission in park switch. I do not see a relay in the starter circuit to go bad. But if it is a bad starter or coil would this cause the panel lights to not work? Any help would appreciate it as this is my only driver. Regards Tom Scordato
Re: [MBZ] 1979 230 D Electrical Starting Problem
It should start in either P or D - if the neutral start switch is working properly. It sounds like poor connections somewhere - at the battery, starter or ground. Could always be a smaller wire somewhere in the starting circuit making partial contact. Start with the obvious - battery cables, then starter cables, grounds, and on and on. There's not any real shortcuts - just work thru one possibility at a time - I hope you have a warm place to work? Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 3:39 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1979 230 D Electrical Starting Problem Car is a 1979 240D Symptons: A few days ago, went to start, got a click click sound, panel lights went on for a second then went off when ingnition was put to full right position. I then put to full left, off for a second and tried again and got the normal responce and car started. Yesterday, same as above happened after car started fine and I had shut it down for fuel. I was again able to start the car based on the above, car had same sysmptoms. Today went to start her and panel lights went for a second, a click noise and all went out when it was in the ignition all right position. Battery is at 13.08 volts across battery terminals, no signs the alternator is foul. The radio works when ignition is in the #1 radio position and when ignition switch is in the start position I am getting a reading on my fuel gage, just no lights on panel and not even a click from the (soleniond on starter???) car. Just need some exact paths to take to trouble shoot. Looking at the one line electrical drawing looks like there is a transmission in park switch. I do not see a relay in the starter circuit to go bad. But if it is a bad starter or coil would this cause the panel lights to not work? Any help would appreciate it as this is my only driver. Regards Tom Scordato ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.1/690 - Release Date: 2/16/2007