Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start
The glow light is not coming on so it’s almost certainly a glow issue. Sent from my iPhone > On May 7, 2023, at 2:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > > I assume you ruled out a fuel delivery problem. > >> On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 7:54 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> wrote: >> With how much cranking? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On May 6, 2023, at 10:04 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: >> > >> > >> > that car (300D 2.5T) will start without glow. >> > >> >> On Sat, May 6, 2023, 10:15 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> >> wrote: >> >> An OM60x ought to start without glow plugs if it's reasonably warm. Did >> >> you let it crank for a couple seconds? >> >> That '78 240D that had been Dwight's absolutely would not start without >> >> glow but all my 190Ds would... >> >> Curt >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 8:59 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via >> >> Mercedes wrote: The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo would >> >> not start this morning. I suspected it wouldn’t as the glow plug light >> >> did not illuminate. I inspected the glow plug strip fuse which looked >> >> fine, but as we all know it can look fine but be cracked so I lightly >> >> pushed on it and sure enough it was cracked - or perhaps it was about to >> >> crack and the light pressure of my finger accelerated the inevitable. >> >> Anyway, I sourced a new one through Advance Auto. They were able to get >> >> one from worldpac same day. I installed it this evening feeling confident >> >> that I fixed the problem but unfortunately, I didn’t. My next guess is >> >> the glow plug relay. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start
I assume you ruled out a fuel delivery problem. On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 7:54 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > With how much cranking? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 6, 2023, at 10:04 PM, Dwight Giles > wrote: > > > > > > that car (300D 2.5T) will start without glow. > > > >> On Sat, May 6, 2023, 10:15 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> An OM60x ought to start without glow plugs if it's reasonably warm. Did > you let it crank for a couple seconds? > >> That '78 240D that had been Dwight's absolutely would not start without > glow but all my 190Ds would... > >> Curt > >> > >> > >> > >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > >> > >> On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 8:59 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes< > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo would not start > this morning. I suspected it wouldn’t as the glow plug light did not > illuminate. I inspected the glow plug strip fuse which looked fine, but as > we all know it can look fine but be cracked so I lightly pushed on it and > sure enough it was cracked - or perhaps it was about to crack and the light > pressure of my finger accelerated the inevitable. Anyway, I sourced a new > one through Advance Auto. They were able to get one from worldpac same day. > I installed it this evening feeling confident that I fixed the problem but > unfortunately, I didn’t. My next guess is the glow plug relay. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start
With how much cranking? Sent from my iPhone > On May 6, 2023, at 10:04 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: > > > that car (300D 2.5T) will start without glow. > >> On Sat, May 6, 2023, 10:15 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> wrote: >> An OM60x ought to start without glow plugs if it's reasonably warm. Did you >> let it crank for a couple seconds? >> That '78 240D that had been Dwight's absolutely would not start without glow >> but all my 190Ds would... >> Curt >> >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> >> On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 8:59 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via >> Mercedes wrote: The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo would not >> start this morning. I suspected it wouldn’t as the glow plug light did not >> illuminate. I inspected the glow plug strip fuse which looked fine, but as >> we all know it can look fine but be cracked so I lightly pushed on it and >> sure enough it was cracked - or perhaps it was about to crack and the light >> pressure of my finger accelerated the inevitable. Anyway, I sourced a new >> one through Advance Auto. They were able to get one from worldpac same day. >> I installed it this evening feeling confident that I fixed the problem but >> unfortunately, I didn’t. My next guess is the glow plug relay. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start
that car (300D 2.5T) will start without glow. On Sat, May 6, 2023, 10:15 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > An OM60x ought to start without glow plugs if it's reasonably warm. Did > you let it crank for a couple seconds? > That '78 240D that had been Dwight's absolutely would not start without > glow but all my 190Ds would... > Curt > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 8:59 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes< > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo would not start > this morning. I suspected it wouldn’t as the glow plug light did not > illuminate. I inspected the glow plug strip fuse which looked fine, but as > we all know it can look fine but be cracked so I lightly pushed on it and > sure enough it was cracked - or perhaps it was about to crack and the light > pressure of my finger accelerated the inevitable. Anyway, I sourced a new > one through Advance Auto. They were able to get one from worldpac same day. > I installed it this evening feeling confident that I fixed the problem but > unfortunately, I didn’t. My next guess is the glow plug relay. > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start
> would there be any harm in using a 30 amp fuse temporarily? Worst case it > will just fail prematurely? If you define prematurely as immediately. 30A will barely run _one_ glow plug, if cold. In a pinch, I've used wire from CAT5 cable. As many strands in parallel as it takes to survive a cold start. But no more than that. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start
I wager it is the GP relay. On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 10:29 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Oh right. I’m not thinking! Thank you. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 6, 2023, at 8:12 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Turn on the ignition switch and look/listen for the relay to close. Put > a volt meter on a GP and see if it gets electrons. > > > > —FT > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > >> On May 6, 2023, at 7:37 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> OK looking at more photos, the OE part does not have the fuse trip but > the OEM part made by Hella does. So how do I check if the relay is bad? Or > can I just assume that it is for lack of another possible explanation? > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > On May 6, 2023, at 7:22 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> I just pulled the cover off the gp relay and I don’t see a strip > fuse. The pictures on line of the correct part all show a fuse strip. > What’s going on here? > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > > On May 6, 2023, at 6:41 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Right. Makes sense. > > Sent from my iPhone > > >> On May 5, 2023, at 11:49 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Probably the strip fuse for the blower motor. > > > > -D > > > >>> On May 5, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> So after some more research, I think I may have replaced another > strip fuse- one perhaps for the hvac. It sits in a little box on the left > strut tower and I think it’s 30 amps. That’s what I bought from advance > auto (30 amps). I believe the glow plug relay strip fuse is located in the > glow plug relay and is 80 amps. Once I check the fuse in the gp relay and > determine (possibly) it to be bad, would there be any harm in using a 30 > amp fuse temporarily? Worst case it will just fail prematurely? > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > On May 5, 2023, at 10:03 PM, Dwight Giles > wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> if I recall correctly I had that issue with that car. I do > remember changing the relay at least once > >>> > On Fri, May 5, 2023, 8:59 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo would not start this morning. I suspected > it wouldn’t as the glow plug light did not illuminate. I inspected the glow > plug strip fuse which looked fine, but as we all know it can look fine but > be cracked so I lightly pushed on it and sure enough it was cracked - or > perhaps it was about to crack and the light pressure of my finger > accelerated the inevitable. Anyway, I sourced a new one through Advance > Auto. They were able to get one from worldpac same day. I installed it this > evening feeling confident that I fixed the problem but unfortunately, I > didn’t. My next guess is the glow plug relay. > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.ok
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start
Oh right. I’m not thinking! Thank you. Sent from my iPhone > On May 6, 2023, at 8:12 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Turn on the ignition switch and look/listen for the relay to close. Put a > volt meter on a GP and see if it gets electrons. > > —FT > > Sent from my iPad > >> On May 6, 2023, at 7:37 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> OK looking at more photos, the OE part does not have the fuse trip but the >> OEM part made by Hella does. So how do I check if the relay is bad? Or can >> I just assume that it is for lack of another possible explanation? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On May 6, 2023, at 7:22 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> I just pulled the cover off the gp relay and I don’t see a strip fuse. The >>> pictures on line of the correct part all show a fuse strip. What’s going on >>> here? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> > On May 6, 2023, at 6:41 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: Right. Makes sense. Sent from my iPhone >> On May 5, 2023, at 11:49 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: > > Probably the strip fuse for the blower motor. > > -D > >>> On May 5, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >>> wrote: >> >> So after some more research, I think I may have replaced another strip >> fuse- one perhaps for the hvac. It sits in a little box on the left >> strut tower and I think it’s 30 amps. That’s what I bought from advance >> auto (30 amps). I believe the glow plug relay strip fuse is located in >> the glow plug relay and is 80 amps. Once I check the fuse in the gp >> relay and determine (possibly) it to be bad, would there be any harm in >> using a 30 amp fuse temporarily? Worst case it will just fail >> prematurely? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On May 5, 2023, at 10:03 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: >>> >>> >>> if I recall correctly I had that issue with that car. I do remember >>> changing the relay at least once >>> On Fri, May 5, 2023, 8:59 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo would not start this morning. I suspected it wouldn’t as the glow plug light did not illuminate. I inspected the glow plug strip fuse which looked fine, but as we all know it can look fine but be cracked so I lightly pushed on it and sure enough it was cracked - or perhaps it was about to crack and the light pressure of my finger accelerated the inevitable. Anyway, I sourced a new one through Advance Auto. They were able to get one from worldpac same day. I installed it this evening feeling confident that I fixed the problem but unfortunately, I didn’t. My next guess is the glow plug relay. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start
I tried for a few seconds but no luck. I didn’t try super hard. Sent from my iPhone > On May 6, 2023, at 10:14 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > An OM60x ought to start without glow plugs if it's reasonably warm. Did you > let it crank for a couple seconds? > > That '78 240D that had been Dwight's absolutely would not start without glow > but all my 190Ds would... > > Curt > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 8:59 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo would not start this morning. I suspected it wouldn’t > as the glow plug light did not illuminate. I inspected the glow plug strip > fuse which looked fine, but as we all know it can look fine but be cracked so > I lightly pushed on it and sure enough it was cracked - or perhaps it was > about to crack and the light pressure of my finger accelerated the > inevitable. Anyway, I sourced a new one through Advance Auto. They were able > to get one from worldpac same day. I installed it this evening feeling > confident that I fixed the problem but unfortunately, I didn’t. My next guess > is the glow plug relay. > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start
An OM60x ought to start without glow plugs if it's reasonably warm. Did you let it crank for a couple seconds? That '78 240D that had been Dwight's absolutely would not start without glow but all my 190Ds would... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 8:59 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo would not start this morning. I suspected it wouldn’t as the glow plug light did not illuminate. I inspected the glow plug strip fuse which looked fine, but as we all know it can look fine but be cracked so I lightly pushed on it and sure enough it was cracked - or perhaps it was about to crack and the light pressure of my finger accelerated the inevitable. Anyway, I sourced a new one through Advance Auto. They were able to get one from worldpac same day. I installed it this evening feeling confident that I fixed the problem but unfortunately, I didn’t. My next guess is the glow plug relay. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start
Turn on the ignition switch and look/listen for the relay to close. Put a volt meter on a GP and see if it gets electrons. —FT Sent from my iPad > On May 6, 2023, at 7:37 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > OK looking at more photos, the OE part does not have the fuse trip but the > OEM part made by Hella does. So how do I check if the relay is bad? Or can I > just assume that it is for lack of another possible explanation? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 6, 2023, at 7:22 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I just pulled the cover off the gp relay and I don’t see a strip fuse. The >> pictures on line of the correct part all show a fuse strip. What’s going on >> here? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On May 6, 2023, at 6:41 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> Right. Makes sense. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> > On May 5, 2023, at 11:49 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: Probably the strip fuse for the blower motor. -D >> On May 5, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> wrote: > > So after some more research, I think I may have replaced another strip > fuse- one perhaps for the hvac. It sits in a little box on the left strut > tower and I think it’s 30 amps. That’s what I bought from advance auto > (30 amps). I believe the glow plug relay strip fuse is located in the > glow plug relay and is 80 amps. Once I check the fuse in the gp relay and > determine (possibly) it to be bad, would there be any harm in using a 30 > amp fuse temporarily? Worst case it will just fail prematurely? > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On May 5, 2023, at 10:03 PM, Dwight Giles >>> wrote: >> >> >> if I recall correctly I had that issue with that car. I do remember >> changing the relay at least once >> >>> On Fri, May 5, 2023, 8:59 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo would not start this morning. I suspected it >>> wouldn’t as the glow plug light did not illuminate. I inspected the >>> glow plug strip fuse which looked fine, but as we all know it can look >>> fine but be cracked so I lightly pushed on it and sure enough it was >>> cracked - or perhaps it was about to crack and the light pressure of my >>> finger accelerated the inevitable. Anyway, I sourced a new one through >>> Advance Auto. They were able to get one from worldpac same day. I >>> installed it this evening feeling confident that I fixed the problem >>> but unfortunately, I didn’t. My next guess is the glow plug relay. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start
OK looking at more photos, the OE part does not have the fuse trip but the OEM part made by Hella does. So how do I check if the relay is bad? Or can I just assume that it is for lack of another possible explanation? Sent from my iPhone > On May 6, 2023, at 7:22 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > I just pulled the cover off the gp relay and I don’t see a strip fuse. The > pictures on line of the correct part all show a fuse strip. What’s going on > here? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 6, 2023, at 6:41 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Right. Makes sense. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On May 5, 2023, at 11:49 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> Probably the strip fuse for the blower motor. >>> >>> -D >>> > On May 5, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: So after some more research, I think I may have replaced another strip fuse- one perhaps for the hvac. It sits in a little box on the left strut tower and I think it’s 30 amps. That’s what I bought from advance auto (30 amps). I believe the glow plug relay strip fuse is located in the glow plug relay and is 80 amps. Once I check the fuse in the gp relay and determine (possibly) it to be bad, would there be any harm in using a 30 amp fuse temporarily? Worst case it will just fail prematurely? Sent from my iPhone >> On May 5, 2023, at 10:03 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: > > > if I recall correctly I had that issue with that car. I do remember > changing the relay at least once > >> On Fri, May 5, 2023, 8:59 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> wrote: >> The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo would not start this morning. I suspected it >> wouldn’t as the glow plug light did not illuminate. I inspected the glow >> plug strip fuse which looked fine, but as we all know it can look fine >> but be cracked so I lightly pushed on it and sure enough it was cracked >> - or perhaps it was about to crack and the light pressure of my finger >> accelerated the inevitable. Anyway, I sourced a new one through Advance >> Auto. They were able to get one from worldpac same day. I installed it >> this evening feeling confident that I fixed the problem but >> unfortunately, I didn’t. My next guess is the glow plug relay. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start
I just pulled the cover off the gp relay and I don’t see a strip fuse. The pictures on line of the correct part all show a fuse strip. What’s going on here? Sent from my iPhone > On May 6, 2023, at 6:41 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > Right. Makes sense. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 5, 2023, at 11:49 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Probably the strip fuse for the blower motor. >> >> -D >> On May 5, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> So after some more research, I think I may have replaced another strip >>> fuse- one perhaps for the hvac. It sits in a little box on the left strut >>> tower and I think it’s 30 amps. That’s what I bought from advance auto (30 >>> amps). I believe the glow plug relay strip fuse is located in the glow plug >>> relay and is 80 amps. Once I check the fuse in the gp relay and determine >>> (possibly) it to be bad, would there be any harm in using a 30 amp fuse >>> temporarily? Worst case it will just fail prematurely? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> > On May 5, 2023, at 10:03 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: if I recall correctly I had that issue with that car. I do remember changing the relay at least once > On Fri, May 5, 2023, 8:59 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo would not start this morning. I suspected it > wouldn’t as the glow plug light did not illuminate. I inspected the glow > plug strip fuse which looked fine, but as we all know it can look fine > but be cracked so I lightly pushed on it and sure enough it was cracked - > or perhaps it was about to crack and the light pressure of my finger > accelerated the inevitable. Anyway, I sourced a new one through Advance > Auto. They were able to get one from worldpac same day. I installed it > this evening feeling confident that I fixed the problem but > unfortunately, I didn’t. My next guess is the glow plug relay. > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start
Right. Makes sense. Sent from my iPhone > On May 5, 2023, at 11:49 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > Probably the strip fuse for the blower motor. > > -D > >> On May 5, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> So after some more research, I think I may have replaced another strip fuse- >> one perhaps for the hvac. It sits in a little box on the left strut tower >> and I think it’s 30 amps. That’s what I bought from advance auto (30 amps). >> I believe the glow plug relay strip fuse is located in the glow plug relay >> and is 80 amps. Once I check the fuse in the gp relay and determine >> (possibly) it to be bad, would there be any harm in using a 30 amp fuse >> temporarily? Worst case it will just fail prematurely? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On May 5, 2023, at 10:03 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: >>> >>> >>> if I recall correctly I had that issue with that car. I do remember >>> changing the relay at least once >>> On Fri, May 5, 2023, 8:59 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo would not start this morning. I suspected it wouldn’t as the glow plug light did not illuminate. I inspected the glow plug strip fuse which looked fine, but as we all know it can look fine but be cracked so I lightly pushed on it and sure enough it was cracked - or perhaps it was about to crack and the light pressure of my finger accelerated the inevitable. Anyway, I sourced a new one through Advance Auto. They were able to get one from worldpac same day. I installed it this evening feeling confident that I fixed the problem but unfortunately, I didn’t. My next guess is the glow plug relay. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start
Probably the strip fuse for the blower motor. -D > On May 5, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > So after some more research, I think I may have replaced another strip fuse- > one perhaps for the hvac. It sits in a little box on the left strut tower and > I think it’s 30 amps. That’s what I bought from advance auto (30 amps). I > believe the glow plug relay strip fuse is located in the glow plug relay and > is 80 amps. Once I check the fuse in the gp relay and determine (possibly) it > to be bad, would there be any harm in using a 30 amp fuse temporarily? Worst > case it will just fail prematurely? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 5, 2023, at 10:03 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: >> >> >> if I recall correctly I had that issue with that car. I do remember changing >> the relay at least once >> >>> On Fri, May 5, 2023, 8:59 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo would not start this morning. I suspected it >>> wouldn’t as the glow plug light did not illuminate. I inspected the glow >>> plug strip fuse which looked fine, but as we all know it can look fine but >>> be cracked so I lightly pushed on it and sure enough it was cracked - or >>> perhaps it was about to crack and the light pressure of my finger >>> accelerated the inevitable. Anyway, I sourced a new one through Advance >>> Auto. They were able to get one from worldpac same day. I installed it this >>> evening feeling confident that I fixed the problem but unfortunately, I >>> didn’t. My next guess is the glow plug relay. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start
GP relay was the culprit on my W123 wagon. On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 10:55 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > yes makes sense > > On Fri, May 5, 2023, 10:37 PM Dimitri Seretakis > wrote: > > > So after some more research, I think I may have replaced another strip > > fuse- one perhaps for the hvac. It sits in a little box on the left strut > > tower and I think it’s 30 amps. That’s what I bought from advance auto > (30 > > amps). I believe the glow plug relay strip fuse is located in the glow > plug > > relay and is 80 amps. Once I check the fuse in the gp relay and determine > > (possibly) it to be bad, would there be any harm in using a 30 amp fuse > > temporarily? Worst case it will just fail prematurely? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On May 5, 2023, at 10:03 PM, Dwight Giles > wrote: > > > > > > if I recall correctly I had that issue with that car. I do remember > > changing the relay at least once > > > > On Fri, May 5, 2023, 8:59 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo would not start this morning. I suspected it > >> wouldn’t as the glow plug light did not illuminate. I inspected the glow > >> plug strip fuse which looked fine, but as we all know it can look fine > but > >> be cracked so I lightly pushed on it and sure enough it was cracked - or > >> perhaps it was about to crack and the light pressure of my finger > >> accelerated the inevitable. Anyway, I sourced a new one through Advance > >> Auto. They were able to get one from worldpac same day. I installed it > this > >> evening feeling confident that I fixed the problem but unfortunately, I > >> didn’t. My next guess is the glow plug relay. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start
yes makes sense On Fri, May 5, 2023, 10:37 PM Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > So after some more research, I think I may have replaced another strip > fuse- one perhaps for the hvac. It sits in a little box on the left strut > tower and I think it’s 30 amps. That’s what I bought from advance auto (30 > amps). I believe the glow plug relay strip fuse is located in the glow plug > relay and is 80 amps. Once I check the fuse in the gp relay and determine > (possibly) it to be bad, would there be any harm in using a 30 amp fuse > temporarily? Worst case it will just fail prematurely? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 5, 2023, at 10:03 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: > > > if I recall correctly I had that issue with that car. I do remember > changing the relay at least once > > On Fri, May 5, 2023, 8:59 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo would not start this morning. I suspected it >> wouldn’t as the glow plug light did not illuminate. I inspected the glow >> plug strip fuse which looked fine, but as we all know it can look fine but >> be cracked so I lightly pushed on it and sure enough it was cracked - or >> perhaps it was about to crack and the light pressure of my finger >> accelerated the inevitable. Anyway, I sourced a new one through Advance >> Auto. They were able to get one from worldpac same day. I installed it this >> evening feeling confident that I fixed the problem but unfortunately, I >> didn’t. My next guess is the glow plug relay. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start
The 2.5 relay does not have a strip fuse like the older ones. You either had some dead plugs, or the relay is read. Simple test to test the plugs to see if they are bad Sent from my iPhone > On May 5, 2023, at 9:38 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > So after some more research, I think I may have replaced another strip fuse- > one perhaps for the hvac. It sits in a little box on the left strut tower and > I think it’s 30 amps. That’s what I bought from advance auto (30 amps). I > believe the glow plug relay strip fuse is located in the glow plug relay and > is 80 amps. Once I check the fuse in the gp relay and determine (possibly) it > to be bad, would there be any harm in using a 30 amp fuse temporarily? Worst > case it will just fail prematurely? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 5, 2023, at 10:03 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: >> >> >> if I recall correctly I had that issue with that car. I do remember changing >> the relay at least once >> On Fri, May 5, 2023, 8:59 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: >>> The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo would not start this morning. I suspected it >>> wouldn’t as the glow plug light did not illuminate. I inspected the glow >>> plug strip fuse which looked fine, but as we all know it can look fine but >>> be cracked so I lightly pushed on it and sure enough it was cracked - or >>> perhaps it was about to crack and the light pressure of my finger >>> accelerated the inevitable. Anyway, I sourced a new one through Advance >>> Auto. They were able to get one from worldpac same day. I installed it this >>> evening feeling confident that I fixed the problem but unfortunately, I >>> didn’t. My next guess is the glow plug relay. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start
So after some more research, I think I may have replaced another strip fuse- one perhaps for the hvac. It sits in a little box on the left strut tower and I think it’s 30 amps. That’s what I bought from advance auto (30 amps). I believe the glow plug relay strip fuse is located in the glow plug relay and is 80 amps. Once I check the fuse in the gp relay and determine (possibly) it to be bad, would there be any harm in using a 30 amp fuse temporarily? Worst case it will just fail prematurely? Sent from my iPhone > On May 5, 2023, at 10:03 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: > > > if I recall correctly I had that issue with that car. I do remember changing > the relay at least once > >> On Fri, May 5, 2023, 8:59 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> wrote: >> The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo would not start this morning. I suspected it >> wouldn’t as the glow plug light did not illuminate. I inspected the glow >> plug strip fuse which looked fine, but as we all know it can look fine but >> be cracked so I lightly pushed on it and sure enough it was cracked - or >> perhaps it was about to crack and the light pressure of my finger >> accelerated the inevitable. Anyway, I sourced a new one through Advance >> Auto. They were able to get one from worldpac same day. I installed it this >> evening feeling confident that I fixed the problem but unfortunately, I >> didn’t. My next guess is the glow plug relay. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start
if I recall correctly I had that issue with that car. I do remember changing the relay at least once On Fri, May 5, 2023, 8:59 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo would not start this morning. I suspected it > wouldn’t as the glow plug light did not illuminate. I inspected the glow > plug strip fuse which looked fine, but as we all know it can look fine but > be cracked so I lightly pushed on it and sure enough it was cracked - or > perhaps it was about to crack and the light pressure of my finger > accelerated the inevitable. Anyway, I sourced a new one through Advance > Auto. They were able to get one from worldpac same day. I installed it this > evening feeling confident that I fixed the problem but unfortunately, I > didn’t. My next guess is the glow plug relay. > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300D 2.5 no glow/no start
The 1990 300D 2.5 Turbo would not start this morning. I suspected it wouldn’t as the glow plug light did not illuminate. I inspected the glow plug strip fuse which looked fine, but as we all know it can look fine but be cracked so I lightly pushed on it and sure enough it was cracked - or perhaps it was about to crack and the light pressure of my finger accelerated the inevitable. Anyway, I sourced a new one through Advance Auto. They were able to get one from worldpac same day. I installed it this evening feeling confident that I fixed the problem but unfortunately, I didn’t. My next guess is the glow plug relay. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
