Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
Yeah, aircraft hydraulic fluid, MIL-5606, is read to clearly and easily distinguish it from other fluids, engine oil, water, urine, etc. Easier to find and identify leaks, too. If you see a red fluid dripping from an aircraft, you know you have a hydraulic leak, or somebody's been hurt. (But hyd fluid is usually a little thinner and not quite as dark as blood.) ;< Wilton - Original Message - From: "MG" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil I think they make the aircraft oil red because it goes in the brakes so that when it is checked it can be seen to be the right stuff. Don't you need almost 4 quarts of oil to completely replace all the oil in the system? The transmission is bad so I haven't had a chance to drive it yet to see if the suspension works right though I know it doesn't leak when standing still with the engine running. I was thinking of using aircraft oil to flush the system and till I see if the accumulators are good or not and then flush it again with the real stuff. Unfortunately around here the aircraft oil cost as much or more then the real MB oil so I guess I might as well use the real oil. Manfred Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:59:10 -0800 From: Jim Cathey Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 300TD suspension oil > What exact oil should I be using in the rear suspension of my 300TD? I've been using the $2/quart Royco 756 aircraft brake oil that I got off Craigslist. Until I can find the leak. Then I've got two bottles of the real deal I got from Rusty to put in. The real stuff's clear, the 756 is red, and is MIL-PRF-5606H rated (same as the real deal). -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
MIL-5606 is generally a safe substitute for ZH-M, CHF, and other mineral oils like that. It does tend to have a slightly different viscosity, which could have long term effects. In an emergency, lightweight motor oil is better than running the system dry. Just NEVER use synthetic/vegetable-based fluids (ie brake fluid), as they will totally destroy the seals and hoses. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
Haven't done anything on it as I just got it on Wed. All that hose stuff is on the list as well as checking the routing of the vacuum lines and the accelerator linkage. May have a problem there as it doesn't want to idle when cold without peddle pressure. Though I'm thinking that that may be a problem with over adjustment of the rack damper bolt. I'll check that when I do the linkage check. Manfred Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:29:53 -0600 From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil Buy the right stuff from Rusty! it is much less expensive than buying new tandem pump and new rear struts. He will have it to you in a couple of days. While you are at it, you might want to change the low pressure hose from the tank to the pump, unless you already did it recently. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
I think they make the aircraft oil red because it goes in the brakes so that when it is checked it can be seen to be the right stuff. Don't you need almost 4 quarts of oil to completely replace all the oil in the system? The transmission is bad so I haven't had a chance to drive it yet to see if the suspension works right though I know it doesn't leak when standing still with the engine running. I was thinking of using aircraft oil to flush the system and till I see if the accumulators are good or not and then flush it again with the real stuff. Unfortunately around here the aircraft oil cost as much or more then the real MB oil so I guess I might as well use the real oil. Manfred Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:59:10 -0800 From: Jim Cathey Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 300TD suspension oil > What exact oil should I be using in the rear suspension of my 300TD? I've been using the $2/quart Royco 756 aircraft brake oil that I got off Craigslist. Until I can find the leak. Then I've got two bottles of the real deal I got from Rusty to put in. The real stuff's clear, the 756 is red, and is MIL-PRF-5606H rated (same as the real deal). -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
Rusty? Who Dat? Rusty was a great suggestion! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
Buy the right stuff from Rusty! it is much less expensive than buying new tandem pump and new rear struts. He will have it to you in a couple of days. While you are at it, you might want to change the low pressure hose from the tank to the pump, unless you already did it recently. My question today is; What exact oil should I be using in the rear suspension of my 300TD. I want to change it as it is really dark. The dealer parts man brought out two different cans and said that he didn't know which one was the right one. Yay. Not. So looking around I find all kinds of oils including someone who said anything with MIL-Spec-5606A which seems to be an airplane brake oil like Aeroshell 4. Anyone have any opinions or suggestions. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
The web site is driven by one vendor, I have access to everything. If you don't see it on the web just call. We have it. --Original Message-- From: MG Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List ReplyTo: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Feb 12, 2010 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil Odd you should mention Rusty. I checked the site but couldn't find any oil listed. I see that Rusty thinks it's a good idea to check with him. I could of course wish he thought it was good enough to list it but since I am unable to think of everything, why should I require it of him. :-) I need a couple of kits for the guide rod bushing anyway so I guess I will have to call. The good thing is that it should also be on sale as it is a suspension part isn't it? I'll find out tomorrow, Manfred Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:34:26 -0600 From: Peter Frederick Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil Buy the proper stuff at the dealer or from Rusty (or PeachParts or wherever). Do NOT substitute anything else, way too expensive if it is incompatible with something. I do not think it is plain 10W hydraulic oil Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
Odd you should mention Rusty. I checked the site but couldn't find any oil listed. I see that Rusty thinks it's a good idea to check with him. I could of course wish he thought it was good enough to list it but since I am unable to think of everything, why should I require it of him. :-) I need a couple of kits for the guide rod bushing anyway so I guess I will have to call. The good thing is that it should also be on sale as it is a suspension part isn't it? I'll find out tomorrow, Manfred Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:34:26 -0600 From: Peter Frederick Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil Buy the proper stuff at the dealer or from Rusty (or PeachParts or wherever). Do NOT substitute anything else, way too expensive if it is incompatible with something. I do not think it is plain 10W hydraulic oil Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
I found that on line and was also considering that as an option. Thanks, Manfred Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:50:26 -0800 From: "Greg Fiorentino" Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil I have used "febi/Bilstein 02615 hydraulic fluid ZH-M" in my '79 300TD. It has a label showing 000 989 91 03 10 as a (Mercedes?) part number. Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
Yeah, one of the bottles was blue but it said Power steering fluid in German on it. It was also part synthetic. The other one was a gray/silver color and only said hydraulic fluid. My inclination was to go with the gray one. I just want a quorum before I commit. Thanks, Manfred Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:46:55 -0500 From: Rich Thomas Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil MB sells the proper stuff in blue liter bottles, you can get it from our various suppliers. Not cheap, but it is something you do like every 10 years or so. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
Buy the MB OE stuff from Rusty. If you want to know how to purge the system, drop me a note and I can go through it with you. Not a big deal to do. Dan --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Rich Thomas wrote: > From: Rich Thomas > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 5:46 PM > MB sells the proper stuff in blue > liter bottles, you can get it from our various > suppliers. Not cheap, but it is something you do like > every 10 years or so. > > --R > > MG wrote: > > My question today is; What exact oil should I be using > in the rear suspension of my 300TD. I want to change it as > it is really dark. The dealer parts man brought out two > different cans and said that he didn't know which one was > the right one. Yay. Not. So looking around I find all kinds > of oils including someone who said anything with > MIL-Spec-5606A which seems to be an airplane brake oil like > Aeroshell 4. > > > > Anyone have any opinions or suggestions. > > > > Manfred > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
Rusty was a great suggestion! --Original Message-- From: Peter Frederick Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List ReplyTo: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Feb 12, 2010 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil Buy the proper stuff at the dealer or from Rusty (or PeachParts or wherever). Do NOT substitute anything else, way too expensive if it is incompatible with something. I do not think it is plain 10W hydraulic oil Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
Buy the proper stuff at the dealer or from Rusty (or PeachParts or wherever). Do NOT substitute anything else, way too expensive if it is incompatible with something. I do not think it is plain 10W hydraulic oil Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
I have used "febi/Bilstein 02615 hydraulic fluid ZH-M" in my '79 300TD. It has a label showing 000 989 91 03 10 as a (Mercedes?) part number. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 2:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil My question today is; What exact oil should I be using in the rear suspension of my 300TD. I want to change it as it is really dark. The dealer parts man brought out two different cans and said that he didn't know which one was the right one. Yay. Not. So looking around I find all kinds of oils including someone who said anything with MIL-Spec-5606A which seems to be an airplane brake oil like Aeroshell 4. Anyone have any opinions or suggestions. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
MB sells the proper stuff in blue liter bottles, you can get it from our various suppliers. Not cheap, but it is something you do like every 10 years or so. --R MG wrote: My question today is; What exact oil should I be using in the rear suspension of my 300TD. I want to change it as it is really dark. The dealer parts man brought out two different cans and said that he didn't know which one was the right one. Yay. Not. So looking around I find all kinds of oils including someone who said anything with MIL-Spec-5606A which seems to be an airplane brake oil like Aeroshell 4. Anyone have any opinions or suggestions. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300TD suspension oil
My question today is; What exact oil should I be using in the rear suspension of my 300TD. I want to change it as it is really dark. The dealer parts man brought out two different cans and said that he didn't know which one was the right one. Yay. Not. So looking around I find all kinds of oils including someone who said anything with MIL-Spec-5606A which seems to be an airplane brake oil like Aeroshell 4. Anyone have any opinions or suggestions. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
