Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD

2021-03-11 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
It is more than a little slop at this point so that is what I want to resolve. 
I know they have a bit of play but this one is getting a little concerning 
after 350k or 400k miles. If it goes another 50k tighter that should be good at 
least another 20years at the rate I drive it. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> IIRC they need to have a little slop in the steering. If you tighten
> the steering box up too much it just wears faster.
> 
> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> I have not driven this car for awhile so took it out this evening for a 
>> little spin. I do like driving me a 126. The steering box is a little loose 
>> though, I need to tighten it up a bit. I’ve seen some vids and such on that 
>> and know it can be tricky but I should give it a try. I rebuilt the Front 
>> suspension some years ago so it Is good. 
>> 
>> As I was turning back into the driveway a G63 passed me. Got me thinking 
>> that a 37yo car is still pretty nice. 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD

2021-03-11 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
IIRC they need to have a little slop in the steering. If you tighten
the steering box up too much it just wears faster.

Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:

> I have not driven this car for awhile so took it out this evening for a 
> little spin. I do like driving me a 126. The steering box is a little loose 
> though, I need to tighten it up a bit. I’ve seen some vids and such on that 
> and know it can be tricky but I should give it a try. I rebuilt the Front 
> suspension some years ago so it Is good. 
>
> As I was turning back into the driveway a G63 passed me. Got me thinking that 
> a 37yo car is still pretty nice. 
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone

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[MBZ] 84 300SD

2021-03-11 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I have not driven this car for awhile so took it out this evening for a little 
spin. I do like driving me a 126. The steering box is a little loose though, I 
need to tighten it up a bit. I’ve seen some vids and such on that and know it 
can be tricky but I should give it a try. I rebuilt the Front suspension some 
years ago so it Is good. 

As I was turning back into the driveway a G63 passed me. Got me thinking that a 
37yo car is still pretty nice. 

--FT
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[MBZ] '84 300SD on BAT ends in 45 minutes

2020-03-09 Thread Craig via Mercedes
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-mercedes-benz-300sd-turbo-diesel-15/

Current Bid: $5,000 Ends In: 45:04


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] '84 300SD on BAT - It even has a car phone!

2016-11-22 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I would really like that one - notwithstanding the fact that I have more 
vehicles than I can drive at one time and no extra parking available.


RB

On 22/11/2016 12:49 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
I have 2 84s, that one looks pretty nice and I like the color. $4k 
might not be a bad price, $3.5k would be better.


--FT


On 11/22/16 9:44 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

What do people think of this? I few exterior scuffs but overall quite
decent.  The auction ends today.  I would expect bidding to peter out
around the $4k mark and I am generally on the mark.  Anyone else?  The
commentary is interesting with one guy expressing preference for the 
560.


http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-mercedes-benz-300sd-turbo-diesel/ 



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Re: [MBZ] '84 300SD on BAT - It even has a car phone!

2016-11-22 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I have 2 84s, that one looks pretty nice and I like the color. $4k might 
not be a bad price, $3.5k would be better.


--FT


On 11/22/16 9:44 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

What do people think of this? I few exterior scuffs but overall quite
decent.  The auction ends today.  I would expect bidding to peter out
around the $4k mark and I am generally on the mark.  Anyone else?  The
commentary is interesting with one guy expressing preference for the 560.

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-mercedes-benz-300sd-turbo-diesel/
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--FT
Winston Churchill:
“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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[MBZ] '84 300SD on BAT - It even has a car phone!

2016-11-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What do people think of this? I few exterior scuffs but overall quite
decent.  The auction ends today.  I would expect bidding to peter out
around the $4k mark and I am generally on the mark.  Anyone else?  The
commentary is interesting with one guy expressing preference for the 560.

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-mercedes-benz-300sd-turbo-diesel/
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Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD rear disk RR

2011-05-18 Thread Max Dillon
You'll need to loosen the parking brake and then beat on the rotor with a 
hammer after the caliper is off. Renewing parking brake is probably optional, 
and you should be able to see the service brake pads and decide in advance if 
they need to be replaced.

-Max
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Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

I gotta get a (at least) new rear disk on the Mamabenz, how hard is it to RR? 
Looks like all you gotta do is take off the caliper and then the disk comes 
off? And the parking brake should probably be changed out at the same time too, 
right? And do both sides while I'm at it?? 
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Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD rear disk RR

2011-05-18 Thread Rich Thomas
I'm figuring while I'm in there to just deal with it all, and be done 
with it for another 27 years


--R

On 5/18/2011 6:53 AM, Max Dillon wrote:

You'll need to loosen the parking brake and then beat on the rotor with a 
hammer after the caliper is off. Renewing parking brake is probably optional, 
and you should be able to see the service brake pads and decide in advance if 
they need to be replaced.

-Max


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[MBZ] 84 300SD rear disk RR

2011-05-17 Thread Rich Thomas
I gotta get a (at least) new rear disk on the Mamabenz, how hard is it 
to RR?  Looks like all you gotta do is take off the caliper and then 
the disk comes off?  And the parking brake should probably be changed 
out at the same time too, right?  And do both sides while I'm at it??


--R

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Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD rear disk RR

2011-05-17 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 I gotta get a (at least) new rear disk on the Mamabenz, how hard is it to
 RR?  Looks like all you gotta do is take off the caliper and then the disk
 comes off?  And the parking brake should probably be changed out at the same
 time too, right?  And do both sides while I'm at it??



Have lots of PB Blaster and your B-est BFH handy to get the rusted
disc off the hub, if it's the original one...  BTDT.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD rear disk RR

2011-05-17 Thread Rich Thomas
Upon further consideration I had some repressed memory of removing one 
of them in the past for some reason or other, and it was not too hard.  
That means this time it will be.


--R

On 5/17/2011 1:27 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net  wrote:

I gotta get a (at least) new rear disk on the Mamabenz, how hard is it to
RR?  Looks like all you gotta do is take off the caliper and then the disk
comes off?  And the parking brake should probably be changed out at the same
time too, right?  And do both sides while I'm at it??



Have lots of PB Blaster and your B-est BFH handy to get the rusted
disc off the hub, if it's the original one...  BTDT.

Alex

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[MBZ] 84 300SD

2009-04-02 Thread Rich Thomas

Reasonable price  http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1102013836.html

--R

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[MBZ] 84 300SD Mileage

2008-02-25 Thread Dan Weeks
I have an '82 300SD with 304k miles. At 75 mph, I average 27 mpg. 25  
in town. 23.5 with two boats on the roof rack, heading into a stiff  
westerly at 75. I am no feather-foot, either.

The previous owner reported getting as high as 32 during the 55 mph  
speed limit days.

27 is bang on, no boast.

That car is a duplicate of mine save for the year. I'd buy it in a  
minute if it is as good as it looks.

Dan

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[MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

2006-01-16 Thread Alan Duff
I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it 
using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very 
slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to 
the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the electrical 
system?

Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN



Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

2006-01-16 Thread Mitch Haley
Alan Duff wrote:
 
 I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it
 using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very
 slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to
 the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the electrical
 system?

I think it's a problem in the jumper cables. 4ga cables don't get
hot, 10ga cables get hot and have enough voltage drop to prevent
them from starting a car. 6ga and 8ga cables are iffy.



Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

2006-01-16 Thread Jeff Zedic
It's very tough to jump start a diesel because they use a LOT of juice. 
You're better off putting a better battery in it to start the car.


Jeff Zedic
Toronto



Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

2006-01-16 Thread Tom Hargrave
Alan,

More than likely it's small diameter cables and a completely dead battery.
You need jumper cables made from least 8 gauge wire to jump start without
help from the vehicle's battery and even 8 gauge will get warm. It helps a
lot to let the vehicle's battery charge 15 minutes through the jumper cables
before trying to start.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com



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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:25 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question


I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it
using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very
slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to
the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the electrical
system?

Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN

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Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

2006-01-16 Thread Dave M.
Alan,

In my experience, jump-starting a diesel - whether it's a little VW
diesel, or an MB diesel - is very different than your typical gas
engine. To make a long story somewhat shorter, I finally learned that
6 gauge, or even 4 gauge, booster cables are nearly useless. 2 gauge
is barely adequate, but it's hard to find anything larger unless you
make them yourself from welding cable. The smaller cables make the
engine turn over very slowly. Bigger cables, or doubling-up two
pairs of smaller ones, made a HUGE difference even on my little VW
diesel 4-banger.

The best deal I know of is at AutoZone. They have a nice set of
2-gauge, 20-foot cables, made in USA, with beefy clamps for $39. I
looked all over and that's the best deal I could find for seriously
heavy-duty cables.

While your 300SD *could* have some other electrical issues, my money
is on the booster cables you were using. Try bigger ones, or simply
get the battery fully charged - that will eliminate that possibility
quickly. If a fully-charged Group 49 battery is having trouble
spinning the engine, you either have wiring problems, or a starter
going out.

:-)

-Dave M.

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 Date: 16 Jan 2006 20:25:21 -
 From: Alan Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

 I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it
 using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very
 slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to
 the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the electrical
 system?

 Alan Duff
 Knoxville, TN



Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

2006-01-16 Thread Luther Gulseth
Ought cables RULE!

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question


Alan Duff wrote:
 
 I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it
 using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very
 slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to
 the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the electrical
 system?

I think it's a problem in the jumper cables. 4ga cables don't get
hot, 10ga cables get hot and have enough voltage drop to prevent
them from starting a car. 6ga and 8ga cables are iffy.



Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

2006-01-16 Thread Jim Cathey

I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it
using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very
slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to
the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the 
electrical

system?


It's a bad battery combined with too-wimpy jumper cables.  I was
unable to jump-start our SDL when its battery went dead, for this
very reason.  If the cables don't look like welding cable there's
no way they will jump-start any diesel, except maybe a new TDI
or something.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

2006-01-16 Thread John Berryman


On Monday, Jan 16, 2006, at 15:25 US/Eastern, Alan Duff wrote:


I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it
using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very
slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to
the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the 
electrical

system?

Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN



It takes serious jumper cables to start a diesel. I make mine from 
welding cable. Jumping from a running vehicle helps too.


Johnny B
I Mac Therefore I am




Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

2006-01-16 Thread R A Bennell
Also make sure you have a good ground attachment. I boosted my wife's car
with my pickup a couple of weeks ago and initially it did not want to go. I
moved the ground clamp on the pickup to a different spot and it cranked fine
and went right away.

Randy

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Alan,

In my experience, jump-starting a diesel - whether it's a little VW
diesel, or an MB diesel - is very different than your typical gas
engine. To make a long story somewhat shorter, I finally learned that
6 gauge, or even 4 gauge, booster cables are nearly useless. 2 gauge
is barely adequate, but it's hard to find anything larger unless you
make them yourself from welding cable. The smaller cables make the
engine turn over very slowly. Bigger cables, or doubling-up two
pairs of smaller ones, made a HUGE difference even on my little VW
diesel 4-banger.

The best deal I know of is at AutoZone. They have a nice set of
2-gauge, 20-foot cables, made in USA, with beefy clamps for $39. I
looked all over and that's the best deal I could find for seriously
heavy-duty cables.

While your 300SD *could* have some other electrical issues, my money
is on the booster cables you were using. Try bigger ones, or simply
get the battery fully charged - that will eliminate that possibility
quickly. If a fully-charged Group 49 battery is having trouble
spinning the engine, you either have wiring problems, or a starter
going out.

:-)

-Dave M.

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 Date: 16 Jan 2006 20:25:21 -
 From: Alan Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

 I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it
 using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very
 slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to
 the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the electrical
 system?

 Alan Duff
 Knoxville, TN

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Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

2006-01-16 Thread Potter, Tom E
This is the only type I use. Anything less is a waste of money IMHO.

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Alan,

...The best deal I know of is at AutoZone. They have a nice set of
2-gauge, 20-foot cables, made in USA, with beefy clamps for $39. I
looked all over and that's the best deal I could find for seriously
heavy-duty cables.



Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

2006-01-16 Thread BillR
I always use at least two sets of cables if they are not very heavy duty.
That seems to work.
BillR 

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Alan Duff wrote:
 
 I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it 
 using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very 
 slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot 
 to the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the 
 electrical system?

I think it's a problem in the jumper cables. 4ga cables don't get hot, 10ga
cables get hot and have enough voltage drop to prevent them from starting a
car. 6ga and 8ga cables are iffy.

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Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD Starter Question

2006-01-16 Thread Curt Raymond
How flat is the battery in it? How long did you leave the booster cables hooked 
up before you tried to start the car?
  When I'm boosting my 240D I leave the cables connected for at least 5 
minutes. If the battery is down enough that I need to boost it its going to 
take some time to get back up to where it'll start the car.
  I have very good, heavy booster cables by the way, cheap ones will get really 
hot when you're slamming power through them to a flat battery. You can really 
heat 'em up boosting a 6v tractor off a 12v pickup, not too bad if you're quick 
but my Great uncle had some cheapie cables for awhile and ended up burning the 
end off one.
   
  You can't start the car purely off the booster cables, your cables don't make 
a good enough connection, you need to let the battery in the car pick up some 
charge before you try to start.
   
  -Curt
  '83 240D Hammie 251kmi
  '85 190D Dory 233kmi
   
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I'm looking at a 1984 300SD with 231k miles. In attempting to start it 
using booster cables, with a hot jump battery, the starter spings very 
slowly. Never gets fast enough to start and he jumper cables get hot to 
the touch. Is this a bad starter or some other problem in the 
electrical 
system?

Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN



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OK, slowing working out the little bugs with the euro 5.0 in the US 380. 
   I figured out this thing has a throttle position sensor which is 
located under the air meter deal, fuel distributor etc right on the side 
of the throttle body.  The euro engine has a wire with a flat 2 lead 
connector, the US car and another US car I have here has a round 3 lead 
connector for the sensor.  I have a high idle of 900-1K rpm and am 
assuming this is probably the cause.  I also seem to have a very slight 
surge when maintaining the same speed going down the road which also 
leads to this.  Anyways, Im assuming Im going to have to swap the 
sensors.  Any way of doing this short of removing the whole injection 
system?

Thinking about taking the whole thing off anyways and putting the US 
version back on.  On the US version there is a wire that is supposed to 
hook up to some sort of valve just to the left of the fuel dist.  There 
is a small fuel line that comes out of the fuel dist that goes to this 
valve with the electrical connection, then if goes back out of this 
valve and around to another valve on the back of the fuel dist that has 
a vacuum connection on it.  From there I think it goes to the warm up 
regulator but cant remember off hand. The euro motor does not have this 
setup with that valve and therefor the wire is not hooked to anything 
for it.  Anybody know what this is for and what it causes when not 
hooked up?  Think I should put the US stuff on the euro motor or just 
swap the throttle sensor and leave it at that?  With the US injection 
parts on the euro motor, will it decrease the power?  Im sure nobody 
will know much about this since this is sort of new territory but 
thought I would ask.
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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
  89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
  84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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