Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
Thanks very much. I never thought of that. Alan Duff Knoxville, TN On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:38:43 -0600, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Easy enough to determine. Crawl under! Randy
Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
Alan - most of that era drain plugs are either 13mm hex head, or 14mm Allen head (differential). The big Allen is the hardest (but not impossible) to come by, so its worth it to line one up before you crawl under. Werner - Original Message - From: Alan Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug Thanks very much. I never thought of that. Alan Duff Knoxville, TN On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:38:43 -0600, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Easy enough to determine. Crawl under! Randy
Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
In working on Brunnhilde it seems that every nut and bolt is either 11, 13, or 15mm. I think you could take the whole car apart with those three wrenches. Not that it answers your question, but whenever I start a job, I grab those three to start! --R Alan Duff wrote: Thanks very much. I never thought of that. Alan Duff Knoxville, TN On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:38:43 -0600, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Easy enough to determine. Crawl under! Randy
Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
Allen, if it is a hex it is a 17mm. MB used the big drain plug for a long time then went to the 13mm small drain plug. DWS Loren Faeth wrote: If my memory is right, it is an 8mm. If not, it is a 10mm. Every MB owner who turns a wrench should have at least a 5mm, 6mm, an 8mm and a 10 mm allen socket. Those with OM60x engine should also have a 12mm for the inevitable idler arm bearing failure. I may be wrong, but i don't think the 380SL is made for the oil sucker. You have to get it up in the air and crawl under to change the filter anyway, the topside system is of no real advantage. I need to change the oil in #1 daughter's SL, so it is time to remember the allen size.. At 04:20 PM 11/28/2006, you wrote: Thanks for all the replies concerning the oil sucker. My question asked what size allen wrench the oil drain plug requires. Does anyone have the answer? Alan Duff Knoxville, TN ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
Darrell W. Sigmon wrote: Allen, if it is a hex it is a 17mm. MB used the big drain plug for a long time then went to the 13mm small drain plug. DWS AutoZone sells a 1/2 set of 12, 14 17 mm hex for less than $10. http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker?UseCase=C001UserAction=performMoreDetailParameters=TRUE%7C%7EHand+Tools%7C%7ENONE%7C%7EGreat+Neck++1%2F2%22+Drive+Metric+Hex+Bit+Set%7C%7ENONE%7C%7EFALSE%7C%7EFALSE%7C%7E141505%7C%7E5296%7C%7E25417%7C%7ENONE%7C%7E%247.99%7C%7ENONE%7C%7ENONE%7C%7ENONE%7C%7ENONE%7C%7E0.8%7C%7ENONE%7C%7EB%7C%7EGRN%7C%7Etrue Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
i have a set of those 1/2 hex sockets - bought an extra when i thought autozone would stop selling them. if you need a set, mail me off list. On 11/28/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darrell W. Sigmon wrote: Allen, if it is a hex it is a 17mm. MB used the big drain plug for a long time then went to the 13mm small drain plug. DWS AutoZone sells a 1/2 set of 12, 14 17 mm hex for less than $10. http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker?UseCase=C001UserAction=performMoreDetailParameters=TRUE%7C%7EHand+Tools%7C%7ENONE%7C%7EGreat+Neck++1%2F2%22+Drive+Metric+Hex+Bit+Set%7C%7ENONE%7C%7EFALSE%7C%7EFALSE%7C%7E141505%7C%7E5296%7C%7E25417%7C%7ENONE%7C%7E%247.99%7C%7ENONE%7C%7ENONE%7C%7ENONE%7C%7ENONE%7C%7E0.8%7C%7ENONE%7C%7EB%7C%7EGRN%7C%7Etrue Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
It's a 13mm hex bolt on my 86 190D. I tightened it recently to try to stop an oil leak. (Didn't help.) Otherwise I always use the oil sucker, so I no longer remember what's used there. Does that help? -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
If my memory is right, it is an 8mm. If not, it is a 10mm. Every MB owner who turns a wrench should have at least a 5mm, 6mm, an 8mm and a 10 mm allen socket. Those with OM60x engine should also have a 12mm for the inevitable idler arm bearing failure. And I think you need a 14mm for something or other. I may be wrong, but i don't think the 380SL is made for the oil sucker. You have to get it up in the air and crawl under to change the Prolly is. Our 560 SL's certainly are, yet they still have that extremely annoying/messy oil filter system. The 200D has neither a sucker dip tube, nor the nice top-load filter cannister. Let the undercoating begin! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
Loren - You're right, you are wrong. :^) You can definitely use a sucker, I use one on my '81 all the time. There is a definite advantage. The filter canister holds less than a quart and if you are careful a lot of that stays in the filter cup till you dump it out. You will likely have to deal with a few ounces. Now the pan is another thing. It holds the other 7 quarts. Suction is the way the stealership does all its changes. The other benefit of suction is that you get more oil out. Barry I may be wrong, but I don't think the 380SL is made for the oil sucker. You have to get it up in the air and crawl under to change the filter anyway, the topside system is of no real advantage. I need to change the oil in #1 daughter's SL, so it is time to remember the Allen size..
Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
Jim Cathey wrote: And I think you need a 14mm for something or other. Lots of differentials need the 14mm internal hex wrench. I know my 2.3-16 takes a 14, and I'm pretty sure my 300SD does too. Now I need to crawl under the 16v and find out how to put tranny fluid in the Getrag. Owner's manual is silent on the subject. Mitch.
[MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
A friend at work just bought the above car and wants to change the oil. The oil drain plug takes an allen(hex)wrench. He asked me what size it takes and I don't know. Anyone have the answer? Alan Duff Knoxville, TN
Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
A friend at work just bought the above car and wants to change the oil. The oil drain plug takes an allen(hex)wrench. He asked me what size it takes and I don't know. Anyone have the answer? I forget offhand. But these cars can have the oil sucked out the dipstick tube by a 'Topsider' or other similar doodad available at marine supply shops. Much less messy, though the cartridge oil filter is still a problem. (Unlike on the diesels.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
As JimC noted, MBs are designed to have their oil removed by suction thru the dipstick tube. I read recently in a MB publication the MB engineers started designing this system in the mid 70s and it's perfected now - *all* the oil comes out thru the dipstick leaving none - as it is meant to. Good luck -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug A friend at work just bought the above car and wants to change the oil. The oil drain plug takes an allen(hex)wrench. He asked me what size it takes and I don't know. Anyone have the answer? I forget offhand. But these cars can have the oil sucked out the dipstick tube by a 'Topsider' or other similar doodad available at marine supply shops. Much less messy, though the cartridge oil filter is still a problem. (Unlike on the diesels.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.19/555 - Release Date: 11/27/2006
Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
LarryT - except for cars with oil coolers, which don't drain back to the engine sump. Werner - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug As JimC noted, MBs are designed to have their oil removed by suction thru the dipstick tube. I read recently in a MB publication the MB engineers started designing this system in the mid 70s and it's perfected now - *all* the oil comes out thru the dipstick leaving none - as it is meant to. Good luck -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug A friend at work just bought the above car and wants to change the oil. The oil drain plug takes an allen(hex)wrench. He asked me what size it takes and I don't know. Anyone have the answer? I forget offhand. But these cars can have the oil sucked out the dipstick tube by a 'Topsider' or other similar doodad available at marine supply shops. Much less messy, though the cartridge oil filter is still a problem. (Unlike on the diesels.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
Thanks for all the replies concerning the oil sucker. My question asked what size allen wrench the oil drain plug requires. Does anyone have the answer? Alan Duff Knoxville, TN
Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
Easy enough to determine. Crawl under! Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Duff Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug Thanks for all the replies concerning the oil sucker. My question asked what size allen wrench the oil drain plug requires. Does anyone have the answer? Alan Duff Knoxville, TN ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
Alan, From all my experience on a variety of MB's, the Oil Drain Plug is a 13mm hex, not an Allen wrench. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Nov 28, 2006, at 3:38 PM, R A Bennell wrote: Easy enough to determine. Crawl under! Randy
Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug
The easier answer, is that you buy the set and crawl under with the strip of them and the ratchet. A set often does not cost a whole lot more than buying the couple you need. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck Landenberger Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 380SL Oil Drain Plug Alan, From all my experience on a variety of MB's, the Oil Drain Plug is a 13mm hex, not an Allen wrench. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Nov 28, 2006, at 3:38 PM, R A Bennell wrote: Easy enough to determine. Crawl under! Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
